1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today's guest is the wonderfully talented 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Christopher Briney, who is in one of the most anticipated 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: movies of the new year, and that movie is, of course, 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Mean Girls. Now Me and Girls was a smash hit 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: when it came out in two thousand and four, becoming 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: instantly iconic in the landscape of pop culture. If I 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: were a betting man, I would bet that you can 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: recite at least one line from the movie to me 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: right now, come on, I know you can. I have 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: about seven in my back pocket. But this iteration of 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: the movie is not a remake, but rather a blending 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: of the two thousand and four movie with the Tony 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Award nominated Broadway musical version, and man, oh, it is 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: such a blast to watch. Chris plays Aaron Samuels. He 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: is one of the most popular and coolest guys in 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: north Shore High School. But aside from navigating the trials 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: and tribulations of the high school social ramid, which we 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: all know is no easy feat, you may know him 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: from his starring role as Conrad Fisher in the Amazon 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: hit series The Summer I turned Pretty. It is a 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: show that took the world by storm and catapulted Chris 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: into international stardom. Season three of the series is going 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: to begin production this year, and I know the fandom 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: is eagerly awaiting for that to happen. Chris is rising 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: quickly in the ranks of Hollywood's leading men, and what 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: I love about his artistry is that he gives such 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: a variety of nuanced and memorable performances. He is definitely 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: somebody to keep a close eye on. Chris is a 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: shooting star. So let's see if today we can get 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Chris to say something that he's never said before. Chris Mo, Man, 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: how you doing today? 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm doing okay, I'm good. How are you doing today? 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: I am fantastic. Are you ready for the whirlwind that's 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: about to come your way with the release of Mean Girls? 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm excited for people to see it. 37 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things you can only 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: just hope people enjoy it, you know, So I haven't 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: quite been prepping for responses yet. I'm just hoping that 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: people appreciate it. 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I saw it last night and 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm a millennial, so I grew up with the two 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: thousand and four version, and I was really exsyited to 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: see this. I also saw the show on Broadway and 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I loved it. 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: Man. 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was fresh and fun and so exciting. 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: And you, of course play Aaron Samuel. So talk to 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: me a bit about this film. What can people expect? 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: How is it different from that original version. 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: As with most creatives in the industry, people don't really 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: want to just redo something, you know. We don't really 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: want as a massive people who consume entertainment like a 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: shot for shot remake of a movie that we love, 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it's been done and you have Mengirls, 56 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: you have the two thousand and four Mean Girls, and 57 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: it exists and it's fantastic and it lives in that bubble, 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: you know. And I grew up with it too, And 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: I think what Tina was trying to do with this 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: is just sort of bring it to a new audience 61 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: and update it for the world we live in and 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: make it a more diverse world than the original, because 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: that's the world we live in, you know, And we 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: live in a diverse world. And I think to do that, 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: you can't just change the script a little bit and 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: have new characters. I think it has to like feel 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: different and look different, and I'd like to think that's 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: what everybody set out to do. And the same with 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: the musical, Like the musical exists, there's no point in 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: doing a direct just film version of it. I think 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: it has to be something new and fresh. And I 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: like that you said it sort of felt that way, 73 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: because I think that's what it has to be. Like, 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: there's no point in doing it if it's not going 75 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: to be new and it's not going to be fresh. 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it pulled the best of the film 77 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: and the best of the stage production and blended it 78 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: all together. Like it's not a remake. It's not a 79 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: remake at all. It's something entirely new. 80 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd like to think it exists in its own 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: sort of world. And yes there's amage, you know, not 82 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: trying to pretend it's never been done before in some ways, 83 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: but it does exist on its own. 84 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that tongue in cheek fun is exciting as 85 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: a viewer to watch, you know. You look for those 86 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: little those little winking moments that do pay you know, 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: homage to the two thousand and four version. 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: And I think you need that because it is so iconic. 89 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: If there was no like quote or not to the original, 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: then I don't know, then you'd be waiting for it 91 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: the whole time. 92 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: And at what point did you watch the original film? 93 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Because it's a bit like I really grew up with it. 94 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: But you're younger than me, I think, So when did 95 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: you see it? 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: It came out in two thousand and four, I would 97 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: have been like six, so I probably didn't watch it 98 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: when I was six. I honestly don't know the first 99 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: time I watched it. I think it was just one 100 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: of those things that maybe a friend put it on 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: or I saw it on TBS. But it's one of 102 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: those things that I've unknowingly been quoting my whole life, 103 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: and I've known my whole life, and I don't really 104 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: know when it started. 105 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: Isn't it a wild We all know multiple quotes from 106 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: that movie? 107 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there are like a few things, and I 108 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: forget exactly what, But like my friends and I would 109 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: it would just be like something we'd say, and you know, 110 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: we know it's a quote from something. But then you're like, oh, 111 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: that's mean, girls, Like that's not just like a random 112 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: quote we picked up like, that's just that's Tina. Did 113 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: you have a go to I referenced that I'm sick 114 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 2: like a lot, Like whenever I have like a cough 115 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: for a cold, I just sort of say it. That's 116 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: definitely one of them. I mean Wednesdays in pink like, 117 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: that's another one that like I feel like my dad 118 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: probably knows that, but he hasn't watched that. I don't 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: know if he's ever watched me, you know what I mean. 120 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: It's one of those things that just sort of exists 121 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: in the culture. 122 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good. So aside from being 123 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: an actor and wanting to work, what made you want 124 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: to do this project? Like I would imagine it could 125 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: come with a level of trepidation and worrying, Oh, what 126 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: are people going to think? Who do love that original 127 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: and we're making something new? Like what was it that 128 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: really appealed stepping into the role of Aaron for you? 129 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: Well, there's definitely a lot of fear. You're right about that. 130 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you're breaching on something that people love a lot, 131 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: and people love it as it exists, you know, and 132 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: often people aren't really looking for something about it to 133 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: change or something to be new, like rebooting an old show. 134 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: Everybody's usually sort of like, well, do we need to 135 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: do that? But I think there was just something about 136 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: the way that you could tell they wanted to make 137 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: this movie and about how they're really coming at it 138 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: from a different angle. And Sam and Art who directed 139 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: it together, like visually, their approach was something like out 140 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: of like a music video, so it wasn't going to 141 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: feel the same. And these characters sort of live in 142 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: their own world. And Aaron doesn't have to sing in this, 143 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: which was big for me. I never would have done 144 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: if he had to sing, But how could you not 145 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: want to be part of something so iconic and to 146 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: get the opportunity to work with Tina Fey and the 147 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: young talent in this movie is ridiculous. I mean, there 148 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: are so many talented piece people attached doing their own thing, 149 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: you know, and they all have their you know, like 150 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: Renee did the musical and then now she's a pop star, 151 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: but she's also in this movie. And Ali he's Mawana, 152 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, and and Gowerie's done all these really cool movies. 153 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: It just everybody's sort of like background. And Jacquel has like, 154 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, the whole like Tony Track, and so it's 155 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: being a part of that crowd was really appealing to 156 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: me because especially as Aaron, he's such like he's a 157 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: cognitive machine. He's not the most important character in this 158 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: story by any means, and he gets to sort of 159 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: be around and get pushed around and watch things, and 160 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: that was sort of what drew me to it, is like, 161 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: I just want to sort of be a little cognitive 162 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: machine and watch it happen and hopefully do my part 163 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: and hopefully people will enjoy that, but just to be 164 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: there for it all, you know, you get to be 165 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: in the room and watch people do their thing, which 166 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: was really. 167 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: Cool and correct me if I'm wrong, because you probably 168 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: know better than me. But I believe I read Tina 169 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Fey put out some sort of a poll originally asking 170 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: fans who they would want to see in this role, 171 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: and you were like the number one choice. 172 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: I saw that clip somewhere. I'm flattered. It probably was 173 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: like really good timing with the show I'm on, Like 174 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: the poll came out like right as we had our 175 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: season air or something. I'll take it. You got me 176 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 2: a job, you know, So thank you teens for getting 177 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: me a job. 178 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: Well well deserved, man, well deserved. Now you mentioned that 179 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: if there were singing in this role, you wouldn't have 180 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: taken it, So did you originally think that was a 181 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: part of it when you got the audition? What was 182 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: your audition experience. 183 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: Like, well, timeline was, I first got the audition in 184 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: my inbox, I think in I mean, this all happened 185 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: so fast too. I think it was like November of 186 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: last year, and there were like some sides and then 187 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: they were asking for like sixteen bars or something of 188 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: a song, and so I just passed on the audition, 189 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: like I didn't give it more than like ten minutes 190 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: of thought. I was like, oh, this would be really cool. 191 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: You know, teen is attached, but not that I don't 192 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: ever want to sing in my life. But I was like, 193 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: I'm not going to book Mean Girls musical, Like I 194 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: don't sing like that. I don't sing like the people 195 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: that are attached to this. So I just let it 196 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: go and then I'm a month and a half later, 197 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: I was in Paris for like fashion week stuff, and 198 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: I got a call from my agent and she was like, hey, 199 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: I know you passed originally, but like the casting on 200 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: Mean Girls, he doesn't sing anymore? Would you consider taping now? 201 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: And I was like fuck yeah, dude, like absolutely, Like 202 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: this is what a project to try and go for. 203 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: And then it happened really quickly from there. I had 204 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: a call back the next day, and then I had 205 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: a chemistry read as soon as I got back here 206 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: from this room, and we made the movie. 207 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: And here we are, so doing the movie now. And 208 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: then going through all of that and being around so 209 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: many singers, did that make you want to sing even more? 210 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: You're kind of like, Eh, I'm good. 211 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to leave it to the professional. It's like 212 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: they're so good because there's always like a part of me. 213 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: I think this is probably true for a lot of actors, 214 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: where like there's a part of me that really believes 215 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: I could do anything, and I'm like, yeah, but I 216 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 2: can make it work. Like give me two weeks in 217 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: a vocal coach and I'll sing like the best of it. 218 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: But then you hear like the level that other people 219 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: sing at and the vocal quality that they have, and 220 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: it's like, I they were born to do this and 221 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was born to do other things, you know, 222 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: So I'm okay, I'm going to leave it to them. 223 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: They sound great. I haven't heard all of it, though, 224 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: so I'm really excited to I get to watch it 225 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: soon and then hear it all and hopefully it'll put 226 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: it out on Spotify like where or whatever. 227 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, you were saying before we began rocking and 228 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: rolling that you haven't even watched the whole movie yet. 229 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: No, I've seen maybe like two scenes and then little 230 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: clips from ADR and then I've seen the trailers, which 231 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: is sort of my decision. Like I had a chance 232 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: to see it a few weeks ago, but I really 233 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 2: wanted to. I have trouble watching myself, so I sort 234 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: of wanted to see it in a room where I 235 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: think premiere environments are exciting and everybody's just sort of 236 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: excited to be there and ready to laugh, and you 237 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: know it's going to be a packed house and you 238 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about because comedy is hard in 239 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: like an empty room if you're not sitting like next 240 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: to a lot of people, like people less encouraged to laugh. 241 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: And I think I just wanted to see it in 242 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: a room where people are really ready and excited to 243 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: see it. 244 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: That's interesting. You touch on the comedy aspect of it, 245 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: because this is a very different project than what you're 246 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: used to, right, So how was it stepping into the 247 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: comedy of it all? Was that a daunting thing for you? 248 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: Did you kind of find your groove? Do you enjoy it? 249 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: It was such a different thing for you. 250 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: It's really different. I mean, I will say again, like 251 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: Aaron is a very specific character in this story, Like 252 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: he's not the class clown. He's not making a lot 253 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: of jokes, and there are some moments that are light 254 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: and that are funny, and I know, like everybody says, 255 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: like to be funny, you have to be not funny 256 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: and you have to be serious, which is true, but 257 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: specifically with him, he's sort of like the straight man 258 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: within it. He's very like taking the blows. But it's 259 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: weird to approach like a genre like this because in 260 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: filming it, you film it in little pieces, you know, 261 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: and it's sort of a lot of it's very montagy. 262 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: So you'll do like coverage of like two lines six 263 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: times twelve different ways, and then they're like we'll figure 264 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: it out in post, you know, and Tina would yell 265 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: out a line reading like try it like this, try 266 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: it like this, So That's another reason why I'm excited 267 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: to see it, because I'm like, I don't really we 268 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: did it so many different ways that I don't know 269 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: how they put it together. 270 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 271 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 2: So it's so much less like you have a scene 272 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: and you sort of build up to this climactic moment 273 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: and then and there are some of those moments in there, 274 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: for sure, but like as a whole, it's so bitsy 275 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: and piecy that it's hard to know like if it 276 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: lands or how it lands. It was harder to keep 277 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: track of what I was doing, to be honest, I 278 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: was like, I don't really know what ton I should 279 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: be approaching this scene with. 280 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: Always that seems like a very probably Tina Fey project 281 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: where she just kind of throws a lot out at 282 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: you and you just play and explore, which I imagine 283 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: as an actor is pretty gratifying. 284 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: It's super fun. I think, like I come in as 285 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: an actor and I have like my take on it, 286 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm pretentious about it, and I'm like, 287 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: these are the choices I've made. And then you do 288 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: a take, and you do another take and you're like 289 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: trying it a little bit different, and then like six 290 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: takes in you're like, that's all I got, Like, I 291 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: didn't really prepare for ninety different ways to do this 292 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: scene and so to have that be thrown at you 293 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: is really fun. I mean you have to be ready 294 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: to like roll with anything, to try it a completely 295 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: different way from how you saw it, which is awesome, 296 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: which is really cool. 297 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: And doing that with Tina Faye in the room and 298 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: kind of guiding you and mentoring you, I imagine must 299 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: have been awesome. Did you work a lot with Tina 300 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: fe Was she pretty involved in your work in the film. 301 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: She's super involved with this movie. I mean she was 302 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: on set practically every day. Sometimes she was in the room, 303 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: sometimes she was watching from video village, and you know, 304 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: every now and then they'd be like, Tina wants to 305 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: try like this, or she would come in and she'd 306 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: be like, hey, what about like something like this? And 307 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: the thing about whenever she gave a note, and maybe 308 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: it's just because I think she's cool, but she would 309 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: give it note and I'd be like, yeah, like that 310 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense, Like I get it, that's funny, 311 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: or that's right for the story, or that's what we 312 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: should be doing. She just knows, I mean it's her project. Obviously, 313 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: it's her story, but she knows it so well and 314 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: she knows like what works so well that what a blessing, 315 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: you know, what a blessing. 316 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Did she ever give you a piece of advice throughout 317 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: the filming that has stuck with you that you'll kind 318 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: of carry with you forward. 319 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: She never like came to me and she was like 320 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: the son, you know. She never gave me like a 321 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: fortune cookie, but she did. I remember we were working 322 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: one scene and I was having some trouble with it 323 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: and it was one of those little like quick moments 324 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, man, like I like all 325 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: I have to do is like react and I was 326 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: just having some trouble with it, and she came out 327 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: and she gave a note she was like, maybe try 328 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: like this, and then she just sort of did a 329 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: thing where she was like I don't know, like and 330 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I don't know either, Like we're 331 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: just gonna make this work one way or another, and 332 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: nobody really knows what's gonna work, but we're just gonna 333 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: try it until it does. And so sort of just 334 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: that approach or what felt like that was her approach. 335 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, like I don't, I don't know, 336 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: nobody really knows. Like we're just really trying to make 337 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: it work. Like that's the goal of making a movie, 338 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: is trying to make stars align. And it was cool 339 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: to know that that's a teena's approached. 340 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: To listening to you and seeing you and watching you 341 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: right now. I could see so much joy when you 342 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: talk about this project and when you talk about acting 343 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: and the art form in general, like you genuinely seem 344 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: like you had the time of your life and that 345 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: you just love being on a set. 346 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: I do. It's true. I mean I feel very, very, 347 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: very very lucky to be working as an actor, because 348 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: that's hard, and not only to be working, but to 349 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: be working on something where the general atmosphere is like, 350 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: let's try this out, let's make this work. Nobody was like, 351 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: this is how you're going to be acting, or this 352 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: is what it looks like. Don't do your own thing. 353 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: Like it was really, I guess, collaborative and fun. You know, 354 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: it was a long process. We worked hard, but it 355 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: was fun. 356 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: So much fun. And what's so interesting, I'm thinking about 357 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: your other work that you've done. It. Of course, you 358 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: shot to international superstardom, with the Summer I Turned Pretty 359 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: and two seasons have been put out and people can't 360 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: get enough of that and love it so much, very 361 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: different than what you did with Me and Girls For 362 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: that project, did you have any idea that it was 363 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: going to explode in the way that it did? 364 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: No, for sure not. I think part of the reason 365 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: why it was so weird to me is like the 366 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: first movie I ever did, it was an independent movie. 367 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: When we were shooting that, I had this thought when 368 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: we finished, where I was like, oh, like people are 369 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: going to see this one day. Like it almost felt 370 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: like we were working in a vacuum and like nobody 371 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: really knew what we were doing. Nobody really cared what 372 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: we were doing. We were just sort of making the 373 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: movie that the director and we all wanted to make, 374 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: and there was a certain amount of joy in that. 375 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: It didn't really matter how it was perceived, as long 376 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: as we were making something we were proud of. And 377 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: similarly with the show, I mean it felt a little 378 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: more like people were watching because obviously it became clear 379 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: when I was cast. I don't know, I got a 380 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: couple thousand Instagram followers. I was like, oh, like people 381 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: have read these books and people care about these characters 382 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: and these stories, but it's still almost I was like, well, 383 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: as long as I'm happy, Like, I don't really care. 384 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: As long as I feel good about my work, I 385 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: don't really care. But then people saw it, you know, 386 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: and people had opinions and people. 387 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: I was like, people had great opinions. 388 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: They do they do. It's been it's been a dream, 389 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: it's been wonderful. It's just weird because I was like 390 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: pretty confident. I was like, well, as long as I'm happy, like, 391 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter if six people see this and 392 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: if four of them like it, I'll be happy. And 393 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: here we are two seasons later, and I've been very lucky. 394 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: That's such a healthy mentality to have. And I didn't 395 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: even connect the dots until you just said it. But yes, 396 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: you are playing a role in that show that's based 397 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: off a character in a selling novel, right and a series. 398 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: And you also did that with Me and Girls, So 399 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: you keep stepping into these roles that already have this 400 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: I now, a preconceived notion and the fan base, and 401 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: you have to make it your own, which is a 402 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: testament to the work that you do. 403 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: Man. 404 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's no easy feat. 405 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I think part of it is like, 406 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: not everyone's going to like it, you know, and people 407 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: are going to have opinions, and that has to be 408 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: I Chris, I have to be okay with that, because 409 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 2: if you're trying to play to every person who has 410 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: an opinion about this, I mean, you're not acting. You're 411 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: just sort of pandering to your idea of what their 412 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: idea is. And it's tough in both ways because like 413 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: someone reads a book. I mean, I read a book 414 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: and I see the characters in my head. Then they 415 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: make an adaptation of it, and I'm like, that's not 416 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: at all who I saw. I mean, if a thousand 417 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: people read a book, that's a thousand different versions of 418 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: this character that are being seen. And similarly with Mean Girls, 419 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: I mean, people grow up with this character, you know, 420 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: they know who Aaron Samuels is, and then all of 421 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: a sudden, this Chris kid is out here and he's like, 422 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: I'm also, so it's a weird thing. I mean, it's 423 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: cool and honored, it's just it's intense. It's intense. I 424 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: guess I'm grateful that I've I have some experience with 425 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: doing that with the show, so I'm not like, well, 426 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: how are people going to take this? How are people 427 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: going to perceive it? 428 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: And on the show are you gearing up for season three? 429 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Is that happening soon? 430 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: I would tell you if I knew, Yes, at some point. 431 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: I'm assuming some point this year we'll go back. Obviously 432 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: the idea was do it last year, but the strike 433 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: and all that jazz. But I'm just waiting for the 434 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: email where they're like, this is when you're going. 435 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: To do it well, between the show, between the movie 436 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: and what's about to happen with this movie for you, 437 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: For people who maybe haven't seen you in the summer, 438 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: I turn pretty and this is a whole new, different 439 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: fan base that could potentially start following you. I'm sure 440 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: the attention you've received already from the show you're on 441 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: has been amazing, but in some ways a bit dizzying, right, Like, 442 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: it's just this kind of constant, constant thing for you. 443 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: How are you able to navigate that? How are you 444 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: able to kind of take a step back and not 445 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: let it consume you appreciate it, of course, but also 446 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: take the time for you, Like, is that a weird 447 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: dichotomy for you? 448 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: It's really weird yeah, And whenever I think about this, 449 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: even I always preface it with the fact that I'm 450 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: like really grateful that people care and people watch anything 451 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: that I've done. I mean, like what a blessing. Like 452 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: think of how many talented people and how many good 453 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: movies have been made that people haven't seen. So I'm grateful. 454 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: And every time anyone's ever said something to me, they've 455 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: been kind, you know, and warm, and they've been like 456 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: I appreciate or I like the show or whatever. But 457 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: it's totally weird because I think with the age of 458 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: social media that we're in, like it's really easy to 459 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: feel like you know someone, and it's really easy to 460 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: feel like you have some sort of notion of who 461 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 2: they are as a person or a notion of like 462 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: how they walk through the world. And being on the 463 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: receiving end of that, I think I'm just like, well, 464 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: I am the only person who knows who I am truly, 465 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: you know, And I played this character on TV and 466 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: I played this character in a movie. But like, I'm 467 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: also like super introverted and shy, and so you know, 468 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: I don't always know how to act in settings when 469 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: people come up to you. You know what I mean, so 470 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: it's you sort of take it as it goes. I mean, 471 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: I walk through New York like like I hide. I hide. 472 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: I just walked through New York like this, like. 473 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: I try to be like me on your sunnglasses, I 474 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: don't even recognize you right now, I. 475 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: Look like a piece of shit, but like, I don't know. 476 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: It just sort of helps me be like I'm in 477 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: my own world, you know, I'm not. I'm not looking 478 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: for attention. I'm just happy people have seen the things 479 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: that I have done. 480 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Some people, you know, relish in the tension and fame 481 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: of it all. It seems like you obviously do it, yeah, 482 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: and that's that's one approach, but you do it for 483 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: the work and that comes with it, and you've you're learning, 484 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: I'll say, it seems like how to how to manage 485 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: that all? Is it almost like you have to put 486 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: on an an alter ego when you're on like these 487 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: red carpets and doing these jun kets, you know, press rooms, 488 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: and like, is it like a different kind of switch 489 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: that goes off on your brain. 490 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: I think in some ways it's inevitable. I really try 491 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: to be authentic, and it's hard, you know, because you're 492 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: standing in a red carpet and you know, there's a ring 493 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: light and a camera and a microphone in your face, 494 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: and I don't know, maybe there's some adrenaline or maybe 495 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: there's some you feel some pressure to like be something, 496 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: but I don't know. I don't want to be like 497 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: two people. I'd like to be as authentic as I 498 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: can when I don't know, Like I don't really love 499 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: social media, but I'm not trying to be like phony 500 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: about it. I don't really feel like a need to 501 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: put on a superficial face. And those might be negative 502 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: words to look at that, because there's also some validity 503 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: in being like, look like, this is my work and 504 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: this is my life, and I keep them separate, and 505 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: I do, but I think like, personality wise, I don't know, 506 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I don't know. I'd rather be 507 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: myself on a red carpet, you know, because I don't 508 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: know how to wear a suit, you know, I'm not going. 509 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: To try to. 510 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: Well. 511 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: I think that's awesome, and I think that's why so 512 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: many people do gravitate towards you. Many. I always say, 513 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: you can smell a fake, and sure, you know it's 514 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: evident you're not, and even your relationship with social media 515 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: that you just brought up. You know, I was checking 516 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: out your stuff earlier today, and you're active, but you're 517 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: not overly active, so you clearly have some sort of 518 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: boundary with it, right. 519 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: I just have found social media really like consuming, and 520 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: so I sort of do everything I can to take 521 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: a step away from it. Like I'm on YouTube shorts 522 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: right now because I lead a TikTok and it's great. 523 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm off the grid. I'm like, if 524 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: something happened in the world, I wouldn't know, but you know, 525 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: I can watch my gaming videos. 526 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: But how are thrashing? Oh my god, I'm sitting here. 527 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I have such jealousy because I would love to kind 528 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: of be more of a low profile person on social media. 529 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: But for what I do in the unscripted world, will say, 530 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, for interviewing and hosting and all of that, 531 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: it's really important to bring people in and you know, 532 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: make them feel like they watch me on TV and 533 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm one of your friends. So it's this weird balance 534 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: for me where I have to I do have to 535 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: be particularly active, but I also do keep things for 536 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: just me and no one to turn it off and 537 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm not on TikTok. Even though my agent's been like, 538 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: get on, get on, get on. I'm like, no, I 539 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: don't want to. No disrespect to anybody on it, but 540 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: for me, I just don't want to do it. 541 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: It's so consuming, you know, it's so consuming. And yes, 542 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: that's where like the trends are and that's where how 543 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: you stay relevant, and that's engagement and all those things. 544 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: But I don't know, I feel you, it's tough. 545 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: So how do you take criticism? Like have you seen 546 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: things written about you before that just crushed you, or 547 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: especially in the social media world that is so relevant 548 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: in Mean Girls, because that's a new spin on it 549 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: in this version of the movie and in everyday life 550 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: and where we are in twenty twenty four, Like how 551 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: were you with all of that? Are you able to 552 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: truly just tune out what I imagine is any small 553 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: amount of negativity you may see about yourself. 554 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: It's hard to tune that stuff out, it really is. 555 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: I'd like to think I'm getting better at it, and 556 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: being off social media as much as I am really 557 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: does help, Like it really helps a lot to be 558 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: a little removed from it because you just see less 559 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: like for a while, you know, you post something and 560 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: then I'd like scroll through the comments and they're like 561 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: so many positive ones, and I think part of me 562 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: is just like looking for the bad ones for some 563 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: like validation of some feeling I have about myself. And 564 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: so for sure there's been stuff. I mean, I remember 565 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: the first time I saw some negative stuff, Like it 566 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: was when the casting announcement for the show came out 567 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: and someone tweeted and I'm not even on Twitter, but 568 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: I was like, again, I was looking for something like 569 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: I wanted. I don't know what I wanted, but I 570 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: wanted something, and someone was like, yo, why are they 571 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: casting ugly people in the summer? I turn pretty? And 572 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, It's just weird because that 573 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: was the first time I saw someone else have an 574 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 2: opinion about me or didn't know me. And also I 575 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: was like, but we haven't even filmed it yet, Like 576 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: how do you know? Like you don't like it? And 577 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: so when I finally was able to rationalize that, I 578 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: was like, oh, well, you know, this year, maybe they've 579 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: seen a few unflattering pictures of me, or maybe they 580 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: think I am ugly and that's fine, but like I 581 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: just got to remind myself, like why I do it 582 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: like I do it for the work and opinions like that. 583 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, if someone like truly was like, wow, 584 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: it looks like he didn't do good work, like he 585 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: didn't have a good idea of what tone the show with, 586 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, okay, well that's of my work, 587 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 2: and I'd be like it would probably hurt a little bit, 588 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: but i'd be like more receptive to something like that. 589 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: Then I feel like off and online it just becomes 590 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: like Yo, this dude looks bad or you know, I 591 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: hate it out or stuff like that. 592 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well it's almost. 593 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: Easy to do with maybe because I'm like, well, that's 594 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: not really what I'm here for. 595 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: But I mean it's inevitable today in age we live in, 596 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: there's always going to be some bullshit out there that 597 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: people just feel like they can write. And it's so 598 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: crazy because how I grew up. I'm thirty seven, and 599 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: I think I grew up with the Internet, so I 600 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: got to really see all the different iterations of it, 601 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: and it used to be like such a fun, happy 602 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: place and now it is like kind of cut throat 603 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: and vicious again. Many beautiful things about it. But that 604 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: side exists, so it's very interesting that we have to 605 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: deal with that who kind of have more public personas. 606 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: But I think your mentality is super right on and 607 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: super important to bring attention to because if more people 608 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: can kind of let things roll off their back, I 609 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: think their overall mental health will be much better. 610 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not easy. It's a work in progress, 611 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: Like it's like that, But I think that's the goal. 612 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: You know, the goal is just to be enough removed 613 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: from it where you're like, well, you know, I have 614 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: my friends. I live with three friends, my girlfriend lives 615 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: down the street. Like that's my community is not online 616 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: and there are valid online communities. Don't give me wrong, 617 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: but like, for me, what I get true joy from 618 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 2: are the people around me and trust their opinions, and 619 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: I trust the way they think about my work. And 620 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: if they had criticism, I'd love to hear it and 621 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: keep it close. 622 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say, keep that circle tight. 623 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 624 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: How do you then, like what brings you joy? I 625 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: guess how do you unwind what brings you happiness? What 626 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: are the things that the non actor side of you 627 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: does and enjoys To stay grounded and to just enjoy life. 628 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of things. I love spending 629 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: time with my friends. Like I was sort of just saying, 630 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: I have this group of like six or seven of us. 631 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: We all went to college together, we did the same 632 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: acting program. We're all actors. I live with two of them, 633 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: my girlfriends down the street with another and another friend. 634 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: And I just like the people I'm surrounded by, Like 635 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: I trust them and I enjoy their company, and that 636 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: brings me a lot of joy to just spend time 637 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: with them. I've been a lot recently. I enjoy golfing 638 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: a lot. It's really on the nose, like it's it's 639 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: super on the nose, but but I enjoy it. I've 640 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: been having a good time. It's sort of nice to 641 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: be working on something that isn't acting sometimes because it, 642 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: as a lot of actors know, it sometimes feels like 643 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: you're just like working in to avoid you're just working 644 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: for no one. So it's nice to just be like, wow, 645 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm working on this for me. That's also more like tangible, 646 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: like you're like, oh, I did good at this sport 647 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: or I did bad at this sport. Whereas acting is 648 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: so subjective that it's harder to grasp. I like getting 649 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: coffee in the morning and that brings me joy, taking 650 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: a little walk. 651 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the simple moments, right. 652 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's funny how that works. 653 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: I know, it's one of my favorite things to do. 654 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm an early riser and I love Macha green tea, 655 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: so it's so good and I make it in the 656 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: morning and that's like my favorite little ritual. I just 657 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: make my green tea and sit down and take a 658 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: few minutes for me. It's it's I always say, it's 659 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: not always the big moment in life. It's the small 660 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: moments that are just as important. 661 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: For sure. And I think as like, as a kid, 662 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: you know, you're like the big moments or what you know, 663 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: and in Christmas you want the big presence and whatever. 664 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: But as I get older, I'm like, I just sort 665 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: of want like some cozy socks and a coffee. 666 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Like and maybe a big fuzzy blanket too. 667 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I just want to be I want to 668 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: be comfortable. 669 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: I want to Yeah, man, I feel you on that. 670 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So the name of the show is I've 671 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: never said this before, so I'm wondering, is there something 672 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: that you haven't really talked about before, whether it's silly 673 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: or deep, whatever it may be, is there something that 674 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to share today? 675 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this and I kept my mind 676 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: resorts to jokes always, and so I was just like, Oh, 677 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: that'll be funny or that. I don't know. I think 678 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: I've never said this is more like life lessons. I've 679 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: never said that I regret saying yes to something. 680 00:30:59,080 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: Hmm. 681 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: I don't think. And maybe if I racked my brain 682 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: I could find something. But I think often like even 683 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: if I'm like a friend's like, hey, do you want 684 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: to do this? And I'm like about to go to bed, 685 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, maybe it'll be fun. 686 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: Or if someone's like, hey do you want to go somewhere? 687 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: Do you want to do something? Or do you want 688 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: to I don't know. I think saying yes to things 689 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: and trying new things is always fun, like golf, for example. 690 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: Like I had a friend who was like, you guys 691 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: want to go golfing? And I'd never done it before 692 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: at all, and I was like, I don't like that 693 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: sounds terrible, like why would I? And then I don't know, 694 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: I've sort of discovered something that I'm passionate about, like 695 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: a hobby I care about, and even if you go 696 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: somewhere and you don't like it, then you know you 697 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: don't like it. I think life's too short to just 698 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 2: avoid everything. Oh I love that because it's easy to 699 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: avoid things, right, you know, it's really easy to like 700 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: the trains are slow today, it's kind of cold. I 701 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: don't want to go and being a hypocrite because my 702 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: friends have veted me somewhere today and I don't think 703 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: I want to go. So it's not like there are 704 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: words I live by. 705 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: But you're saying when you actually say yes, you don't 706 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: regret it. 707 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. It's a talk of progress. I might 708 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: rescind to that in thirty seconds, but I think it's true. 709 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I don't I don't regret that stuff. 710 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: I don't regret going to a party I wasn't sure 711 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: if I wanted to go to, or seeing a movie 712 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: that I didn't like the trailer for. 713 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: Because you got to have an experience you wouldn't have 714 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: had otherwise, even if it wasn't the experience that you 715 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: wanted or didn't turn out exactly how you thought it 716 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: would be. You Yeah, you got to try something new exactly. 717 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 718 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like the most perfect January twenty twenty four response. 719 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: To this resolution. I have a list. Actually no, I'm yeah, 720 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: that's a resolution response. So yes, some more things. 721 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I couldn't loved that more. And you know what, 722 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: You're right, that's something I remind myself of sometimes it's 723 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: like just say yes, you have nothing to lose, and 724 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, who cares? 725 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: Because I think it's also easy to get habitual sometimes 726 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: and be like, all right, this is what I'm gonna 727 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: do this week, and in my downtime, I'm gonna do 728 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: a B and C. And then you know, g pops 729 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: up and you're like, well, that's not part of my 730 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: routine that I don't know. But it's good to try things. 731 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: It's good. 732 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember that. That is a good reminder for 733 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: everybody listening. Try something new, don't be afraid to say yes. Right. 734 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: I think so that was well. 735 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: Said my friend. I've so loved this conversation. I think 736 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: that you have such a bright future ahead of you. 737 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: You've accomplished so much already, and something tells me this 738 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: is just the beginning. And honestly, man, it was such 739 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: an honor getting to hang out in chat today. 740 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, truly, this 741 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: was so much fun. 742 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: Anytime, and everyone, go see the movie right. 743 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: Oh, check it out. Man. I think it's gonna be good. 744 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it's good. 745 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. You haven't seen it. I've seen it, 746 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: and I'm saying it's good. So go see the movie. 747 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: Means out now, go see it. Thank you again, man, 748 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk soon. 749 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 750 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: J I've Never Said This Before is hosted by me 751 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: Tommy Dederio. This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi 752 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. 753 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis 754 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: Duran podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate review 755 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: and subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 756 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time. I'm Tommy Dedario