Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Three Clowns in the Piccadilly Circus.
Speaker 2: From the Sky Sports studio here in London Town. It's
Speaker 2: Around the NFL. I am Dan.
Speaker 3: Hansis and I'm joined by heroes on a beautiful couch,
Speaker 3: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and the great face of NFL
Speaker 3: coverage here.
Speaker 2: In England, Neil Reynolds.
Speaker 1: Hi, heroes, you're in my seat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ah my seat. That's the whole reason I
Speaker 2: flew over here to challenge you.
Speaker 4: Very uncomfortable because you look good on that single show as.
Speaker 2: Well, and you look great as well. What's up? We're here.
Speaker 2: We did it.
Speaker 5: We've already been labeled as clowns by our own friend
Speaker 5: in America, Jason someone.
Speaker 6: I don't like the way this has started for us
Speaker 6: at all.
Speaker 2: But is it inaccurate? I don't think so.
Speaker 6: It's uh, I'd say sixty six percent accurate.
Speaker 7: Uh, But we always like kind of promoke.
Speaker 8: Hey, check out the YouTube now, and I think this
Speaker 8: is the episode to check out the YouTube because we're
Speaker 8: in this new setting and just the way the seating is.
Speaker 7: I look like Dan small child, like a little boy.
Speaker 3: That's it's tough because, like Greg probably the came, I
Speaker 3: wish I was smaller, and then we're next to each other.
Speaker 7: It's like an ogre that I don't wish I was bigger.
Speaker 1: You're sitting up very straight.
Speaker 3: You don't don't put how is everyone? We we flew here,
Speaker 3: We are jet lagged, but we are we are proud,
Speaker 3: and we are ready to talk football.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think like we've done this.
Speaker 5: We've been through these battles before with the jet lag,
Speaker 5: and I think you guys have maybe done a better
Speaker 5: job this time around of getting some sleep, preparing yourself physically.
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm in the middle of the night and.
Speaker 8: We waited like fifteen hours ago. No one's you know,
Speaker 8: the bars.
Speaker 4: The emotions of home coming as well, though, that's the
Speaker 4: thing for you is a lot.
Speaker 6: It's a lot too, you know, psychologically, it's a lot
Speaker 6: to embrace.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: So with with Neil here that okay, Neil, how is
Speaker 3: the season going over here? How are the London games
Speaker 3: that we got? The last one we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about that. We're going to lead off with it Ravens
Speaker 3: at Titans just in a bit. But like, as what's
Speaker 3: the difference, how about this? The difference in this city
Speaker 3: now compared to I don't know, five six years ago.
Speaker 4: So I think it's that we're used to having them,
Speaker 4: and that's not meaning that we're complacent. It's just it's October.
Speaker 4: It's time for London games. I think that's whether you're
Speaker 4: an NFL fan or if you're just a sports fan,
Speaker 4: you know, the NFL comes to town at this time.
Speaker 4: The NFL does a great job of making noise around
Speaker 4: the games. Took over Battersea Power Station last year, so
Speaker 4: last week and that was fantastic. So I think it's
Speaker 4: just the excitement hasn't diminished at all. You know, the
Speaker 4: demand for tickets grow stronger every year. Everywhere you look about,
Speaker 4: you know, this game around the town, it just continues
Speaker 4: to grow. And yeah, I don't think it's slowing down
Speaker 4: anytime soon. It's been It's been really exciting but also expected,
Speaker 4: which is kind of makes it sound like it's the
Speaker 4: norm and it's complacency, but there isn't.
Speaker 8: It's tradition now. Yeah, as are we coming to Sky Sports.
Speaker 8: We were just talking about five years ago our first
Speaker 8: trip here doing week one before with Rob.
Speaker 7: Ryan and Sulomon.
Speaker 8: Welcome, Yeah, West saying was one of the best days
Speaker 8: of his career getting to cover all those games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is our fifth trip as a group together,
Speaker 3: and yeah we'll always remember the first trips with Wes
Speaker 3: and uh, but the fact that we're doing it again
Speaker 3: and Neil, you've been with us for the whole ride,
Speaker 3: so it's only fitting you're with us today and we're
Speaker 3: going to be with.
Speaker 2: You on Sunday and we're going to be at the
Speaker 2: Hot Toddy.
Speaker 3: Is that caught on here, by the way, Not yet,
Speaker 3: but it's getting there maybe like some you hear it
Speaker 3: in the publications.
Speaker 4: You guys have a following here, as you know, so
Speaker 4: it's certainly going to be the case for for your
Speaker 4: your fan base.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't think anywhere else.
Speaker 8: No, when Handsome Hank, our friend last night, called it
Speaker 8: the Big Toddy or what do you guys call it,
Speaker 8: I realized it hadn't quite no the Big.
Speaker 3: Tot and then Hot Toddy kind of went out internally
Speaker 3: for us, But I guess it's Tottenham Hotspurs.
Speaker 5: According to reports, it gets a little lost in translation
Speaker 5: in various parts of town.
Speaker 4: So it would be good if they just welcomed us
Speaker 4: into a Premier League game once it's Liverpool against Spurs
Speaker 4: here at the hotel.
Speaker 2: Well do they have is that? Maybe it's a cultural thing.
Speaker 3: Do they have nicknames for buildings here like the Big
Speaker 3: Bell Bottom?
Speaker 8: And no, no, they don't actually have humor here. It
Speaker 8: hasn't quite cut on.
Speaker 3: I mean you're the king of the nicknames, so I
Speaker 3: know you want Well, this one apparently isn't working, so
Speaker 3: maybe back to the drawing board. All right, so you
Speaker 3: know the deal here? Every preview show is a draft.
Speaker 3: But before we get to the draft, and because we
Speaker 3: have meal here, just bring them a touch of class.
Speaker 3: There's something severely lacking the show.
Speaker 2: Yes, a gentleman for years, by the way, this one accent,
Speaker 2: this Reynolds here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys sitting in the car for two and a
Speaker 3: half hours to get here today.
Speaker 6: It's a workhorse. He's a professional. There's no way to
Speaker 6: doubt that.
Speaker 1: But it's like me, yeah, go ahead, and I had
Speaker 1: to drive.
Speaker 2: Seeing that takes a little of that event.
Speaker 6: I thought you you made it sound as if you
Speaker 6: were driving.
Speaker 1: Here, didn't. I had to sit there for a long time.
Speaker 3: I thought you were grinding here in like at nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety two Honda Civic.
Speaker 1: No, let's just say that not nearly.
Speaker 6: The narrative is ships all right, So now I don't
Speaker 6: feel bad.
Speaker 2: It's still two and a half hours a long time.
Speaker 2: But when you have that massive estate in the countryside,
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 1: You have to get yourself out.
Speaker 5: It took us fifteen hours to get here, so I
Speaker 5: don't know if we're comparing it.
Speaker 3: So let's get to it. Let's get to the game
Speaker 3: that we're here for. For starters, it is the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 3: and I think the cool thing about this game and
Speaker 3: us being here is it's kind of a bit of
Speaker 3: a crossroads moment for these two teams. You have the
Speaker 3: Ravens coming off, and we talked about it at length
Speaker 3: on the podcast. A maddening loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 3: one of the like I said it on the show Sunday,
Speaker 3: and because I put myself in the fans and the
Speaker 3: and the shoes of the fans there, like you will
Speaker 3: never forget that loss of your a Ravens fan, because
Speaker 3: it was so terrible, it was so frustrating.
Speaker 2: They should what was the fun?
Speaker 3: We did it on the NFL Plus programming the Game
Speaker 3: of the Week. What should the final score of BA.
Speaker 8: I created an alternate score line of all the touchdowns
Speaker 8: that they dropped in the points that they lost. And
Speaker 8: I think they won that game thirty seven to fourteen
Speaker 8: something like that, and it's two.
Speaker 3: They lost it two, but they didn't. They did not
Speaker 3: win the game thirty seven to four. Thought it was
Speaker 3: thirty four to fourteen, but it could have easily been. Instead,
Speaker 3: they lost a crushing seventeen to ten loss. Now they
Speaker 3: get the Titans here in London. The Titans also interesting, Neil.
Speaker 3: They're coming off a loss, they're two and three. They
Speaker 3: kind of they got to have it. It's kind of
Speaker 3: a guy to have a game for the calt So
Speaker 3: it's an angry, annoyed Ravens team against the Titans team
Speaker 3: that's not going to give them any Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I set it up perfectly. There's a crossroads game.
Speaker 4: It's that seat. It's that seats the superpower. You can
Speaker 4: feel it surging through the great questions and out.
Speaker 2: They get the chills.
Speaker 4: You both have issues, far too focused on our own
Speaker 4: question line of questions.
Speaker 1: It's about I think a crossroads game.
Speaker 4: I think the interesting thing with the Titans, they they're
Speaker 4: own three outside of Nashville and now here they come
Speaker 4: to London and I spoke to which one of you
Speaker 4: is going to say humble brag When I spoke to
Speaker 4: Mike Rabel last week and he said that we just
Speaker 4: we shoot ourselves in the foot when we're on the road.
Speaker 4: He said, it's unforced errors. And this is the first week.
Speaker 4: I was reading a couple of Titans articles while being
Speaker 4: driven here today and well.
Speaker 2: They're like rub it in now, Neil, I mean just
Speaker 2: playing up to the bit.
Speaker 1: It's a bit now now now, now.
Speaker 2: You're distancing yourself from the listener.
Speaker 1: I supposed to be a man of the people.
Speaker 4: This is the first time I've heard it mentioned that
Speaker 4: is Tannehill going to be replaced if they lose this
Speaker 4: one more than one after And I thought that was
Speaker 4: ridiculously early, But that story is out there now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a there's.
Speaker 4: A backs to the wall field for the for the Titans,
Speaker 4: and the Ravens are going to be so annoyed.
Speaker 1: I know you said on the one.
Speaker 4: Of the pods a couple of days ago they should
Speaker 4: be five and oh or could be. So there's frustration
Speaker 4: there as well. And two teams are used to winning.
Speaker 7: I feel like Ryan Tanner is the least of their problems.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 8: Since Week one, I think he's played well, Yeah, pretty well.
Speaker 8: He played well last week. Like the fact that Mike
Speaker 8: Rabel puts all this money in their defense. They can't
Speaker 8: stop anyone through the air, so I like that little
Speaker 8: matchup for Lamar. Like they make a lot of mental errors,
Speaker 8: they're bad in the red zone. They've always been traditionally
Speaker 8: really good in the red zone, and maybe Tannehill is
Speaker 8: a part of that, but they're usually one of the
Speaker 8: best teams. It hasn't been like a typical Titans team
Speaker 8: in general. And I look at that like Christian Fulton
Speaker 8: is this guy who's a free agent at cornerback and
Speaker 8: they're starting some other shaky guys at cornerback. He's supposed
Speaker 8: to have a big year and he's getting toasted. And
Speaker 8: now he's got to go against a Raven's crew that
Speaker 8: even though they dropped a lot of passes last week.
Speaker 7: I'm looking at the positive.
Speaker 8: I'm looking at like, hey, I haven't seen a Ravens
Speaker 8: offense where there's wide open wide receivers ever, and now
Speaker 8: we've got them. Your boy Odell, you can mention you
Speaker 8: talked to him yesterday or whatever, like it sounds like
Speaker 8: he will play.
Speaker 7: In this game.
Speaker 8: I know he hasn't done much this year. They're at
Speaker 8: least healthy at wide receiver, so I look at that.
Speaker 8: You got open receivers, you got a pretty good running game.
Speaker 8: It's like a top six or seven running game. And
Speaker 8: you've got a defense that's had so many injuries and
Speaker 8: yet is near the top of the league statistically in
Speaker 8: just about everything. They've used more starters this season as
Speaker 8: a team, the Ravens than any team in the NFL.
Speaker 8: And they're actually healthier this week than they have been
Speaker 8: all season.
Speaker 7: So I'm an optimist.
Speaker 8: I say, I look at those baseline things and like
Speaker 8: that they should be much better and as the season
Speaker 8: goes on, it's actually a good looking see.
Speaker 5: I think what's happening in the past couple of years
Speaker 5: because they were banged up three seasons ago, they were
Speaker 5: banged up last season, They've been banged up this season.
Speaker 5: They've gotten used to and they fight through it, losing
Speaker 5: these key players. And I mean, right now, Greg, you
Speaker 5: are right because I think if you, if you want
Speaker 5: to look past the fact that they've failed to execute
Speaker 5: in key spots like that the drops against Pittsburgh were unforgettable.
Speaker 5: They're fatal, but they are like the essentially the eighth
Speaker 5: best team on third downs. They're third in the red zone,
Speaker 5: which has not been the case for the Ravens at
Speaker 5: all times. Their fourth and rushing yards per games, seventh
Speaker 5: in yards per carry. I mean like they are executing
Speaker 5: in a lot of different ways globally. But they have
Speaker 5: six They've lost six fumbles in five games. And it's like,
Speaker 5: you go back to that Colts game Kenyan Drake had
Speaker 5: a killer fumble as they were approaching a score, and
Speaker 5: so it's taking points off the board, and like, you can,
Speaker 5: you can get these guys open, but Zay Jones, who's
Speaker 5: got a lot of talent, you can't be dropping wide
Speaker 5: open passes like you're in fourth grade on a Pop warnerfield.
Speaker 4: Flowers, he does look like he's on a Pop Warner field.
Speaker 4: I saw him yesterday. I mean, talk about when you
Speaker 4: want to feel old, watch say Flowers practice. He looks
Speaker 4: like he's fourteen years old.
Speaker 1: It's funny. The Ravens have changed. I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I think if you ask me how they're going to
Speaker 4: attack and how they're going to attack week in and
Speaker 4: week out, I'm thinking Lamar is going to do the running,
Speaker 4: but I look at the passing targets. Although it's been inconsistent,
Speaker 4: I feel like they are a passing team now because
Speaker 4: of the injuries they've had at running back as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have on the Titan side of that,
Speaker 3: you never know what you're going to get with their offense.
Speaker 3: I mean overall, I think they're twenty sixth in points
Speaker 3: scored and the Ravens have a very stingy defense.
Speaker 2: So I don't see this.
Speaker 3: I don't really like the Titans chances in the skin,
Speaker 3: to be quite honest with you, I under because I
Speaker 3: always give them a little better than that in terms
Speaker 3: of respect because they're hard nosed team. Vrabel is going
Speaker 3: to have them ready to go, but they're just as
Speaker 3: And I like what Julio Jones is an excuse now,
Speaker 3: Julio Jones jet lag. DeAndre Hopkins has brought to the offense,
Speaker 3: but he's not Julio Jones, that's.
Speaker 7: The whole He's coming off his best game.
Speaker 8: Great.
Speaker 3: Great, that's where you can get excited, but does this
Speaker 3: Is this team going to score enough points week in
Speaker 3: a week out and against this Baltimore defense. I get
Speaker 3: the feeling it's going to once again be a real
Speaker 3: struggle for Tennessee to put points on the board. And
Speaker 3: that maybe not that I think this is Tannehill's fault,
Speaker 3: but you know, so many times people will say, why
Speaker 3: why is this offense not better?
Speaker 2: What's going with the quarterback? There's more to it than that,
Speaker 2: but that's part of it.
Speaker 3: I mean this, this offense needs to be able to
Speaker 3: score twenty points, and I don't know if they get
Speaker 3: there in this game against Baltimore.
Speaker 4: I don't think they get there in this game, and
Speaker 4: I don't think they get there nearly enough in today's NFL.
Speaker 1: You look at the free scoring teams around the.
Speaker 4: League, and the Titans are welled away from that.
Speaker 8: If they put up twenty seven that Chargers game, they
Speaker 8: played well and then they put it that was they
Speaker 8: tracked the Bengals.
Speaker 1: So that's what you don't know what you're going to
Speaker 1: get right.
Speaker 5: You look at the Browns game, I mean they flatline
Speaker 5: for too many quarters in a row.
Speaker 1: With the Bengals game, they look like you'd say that
Speaker 1: was a playoff team.
Speaker 7: What was the vibe with Odell? Like you you Medham.
Speaker 4: And O'Dell was kind of he was, and we've done
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff together, so I.
Speaker 1: Know him pretty well. So wow, that is we do it.
Speaker 6: It's factual. He's a reporter.
Speaker 7: He's just doing pretty well. So do you think your name?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, you know it's my name. He knows
Speaker 1: my son's name. WHOA.
Speaker 2: Now, I can't even criticize those dougs. I didn't know
Speaker 2: you were this joys.
Speaker 1: Were working out together in the off season. Wow, look
Speaker 1: at this.
Speaker 8: Shout to the NFL Academy. By the way, we didn't
Speaker 8: your son play there. They beat the big high school
Speaker 8: powers of the US. The Brits are coming for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's bury that. We're gonna edit that out of
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: You and l Dell is like you guys on the
Speaker 3: bench press together, just like trading reps.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 4: We wouldn't do that, but yeah, we give me, give
Speaker 4: me a nice hug and we'll have a chat.
Speaker 1: But he's he's impressed. He's been.
Speaker 4: Just what it just he's been frustrated by being in
Speaker 4: and out of the lineup. He's frustrated that the team
Speaker 4: has been a little bit up and down.
Speaker 1: But he's changed as well. He's matured.
Speaker 4: He writes out adversity better than he did earlier in
Speaker 4: his career. I would say he's very different from how
Speaker 4: I interviewed him when I worked with him around his
Speaker 4: rookie year. After his rookie year, the Odell I was
Speaker 4: with him the summer, and the Odell was with yesterday
Speaker 4: and I saw him at a the preseason game in Tampei.
Speaker 4: Came over and said, hello, He's very different. And then
Speaker 4: his father, Now I think he's chased a volcanic.
Speaker 2: I remember his Jeish the Josh Norman like battles.
Speaker 4: It's really weird because I'm really two of the closest
Speaker 4: people to me in the NFL are Odell and Josh Norman,
Speaker 4: and they both seem to go with me.
Speaker 7: All right, But the break, I mean, he's been humbled.
Speaker 8: He has seventy nine yards this season, and I actually
Speaker 8: kind of think of this matchup and think about the
Speaker 8: Titans were kind of I mean, the Ravens were kind
Speaker 8: of considering DeAndre Hopkins. If I'm de Andre Hopkins and
Speaker 8: I see that Odell Beck got fifteen million dollars from
Speaker 8: the Ravens and was kind of the top of that
Speaker 8: end of the receiver market, and Hopkins got considerably less
Speaker 8: from the Titans, and Hopkins is out there putting up
Speaker 8: one forty looking like DeAndre Hopkins, and Odell might not
Speaker 8: make that type of pay day ever again in the.
Speaker 5: NFL, thought he will not make that payday now well,
Speaker 5: but that is the thing with that, I was thinking,
Speaker 5: like sponsorships, he could make some.
Speaker 3: He's similar like almost the wide receiver version of a Baker,
Speaker 3: where there's just something about him and you want to
Speaker 3: kind of be in business with Odell, but so far
Speaker 3: business hasn't been good in terms of production and they
Speaker 3: need him to really round out that receiving.
Speaker 4: Just on Odell, like you're right, the numbers, the numbers
Speaker 4: and everything he's done the last few years. Obviously he
Speaker 4: had to go away from the NFL with the torn
Speaker 4: ACL While the playoffs are on last year, he's on
Speaker 4: a Joe Burrow is playing against Patrick Mahomes and Odell's
Speaker 4: down in Florida on a field trying to get back
Speaker 4: into the spotlight, working out a way. Couldn't you know,
Speaker 4: the epitome of work when no one's watching that kind
Speaker 4: of thing. The thing is with with Odell, though, he
Speaker 4: is to me the closest thing to beatle main area
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Steel I went around ten training camps
Speaker 4: this year. The only site where somebody is having their
Speaker 4: name screamed over and over again was Baltimore. He moves
Speaker 4: the needle across America still, I think so when you
Speaker 4: see it on the ground, like very few players. I
Speaker 4: was gonna say no other, but it's not quite no other,
Speaker 4: but very few players in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I think that's why. Yeah, he got that payday, and.
Speaker 7: I think maybe that's why he has a breakout game.
Speaker 1: He's gonna score a touchdown on scoring on Sunday.
Speaker 7: He's gonna score a touchdown.
Speaker 8: I love the matchup of the Ravens and Lamar has
Speaker 8: been making such good decisions throwing well from the pocket.
Speaker 7: I think Odell gets a touchdown, he's in.
Speaker 8: The end zone and he said this one's for George Reynolds,
Speaker 8: and then Flowers get and Rashon Bateman gets to touchout
Speaker 8: and the Ravens rock it out at the hot Toddy, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna lock it up.
Speaker 2: Let's go interesting.
Speaker 3: The last time you kind of got in your feelings
Speaker 3: about a team, it was the Patriots rain maker, and
Speaker 3: now you're because the Ravens are basically your team.
Speaker 8: So I mean you say that about six teams. I
Speaker 8: am excited about this game, but yeah, I think it
Speaker 8: will happen. Put a little extra juice while we're on
Speaker 8: sky Sports.
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, cool, we'll see. I would love Odell
Speaker 3: make an impact. Neil, you made an impact here. I
Speaker 3: just now unsolicited advice and I'm in your chair and
Speaker 3: it's a little disrespectful, but I come from a coal
Speaker 3: mine town, so it's like where I come from, it's
Speaker 3: working class. Don't tell people you have a driver taking here.
Speaker 3: Say I was on the bus and it took two
Speaker 3: and a half hours. I think that will take you
Speaker 3: that much higher in the industry.
Speaker 1: That is good advice. I will always take on.
Speaker 6: Cats sorty out of the bag.
Speaker 4: But any advice you give me done and it goes
Speaker 4: straight on bold.
Speaker 8: Also like a coal mining town that was named Vogue
Speaker 8: Magazine's top five, like bucolic places for.
Speaker 7: Bankers to retire.
Speaker 3: All right, tamper with the narrative. Neil Reynolds, Sky Sports
Speaker 3: the Man. We'll be back with him later this week
Speaker 3: and uh catch latter.
Speaker 1: Neil, Thanks Bude, thank you guys, thank you.
Speaker 3: All right, We're back, Oh Neil, touch a class very
Speaker 3: classy man.
Speaker 2: We need that.
Speaker 7: This one's for George.
Speaker 2: Yes, Georgie Reynolds.
Speaker 3: I call him Georgie Reynolds, son of Neil and a
Speaker 3: talented baller. Track him online. All right, let's get to
Speaker 3: it the draft this week, Mark Sessler. Here in your
Speaker 3: hometown of England, how does it feel to be back
Speaker 3: in the land where you live for like fourteen days?
Speaker 2: About days?
Speaker 7: Now? I was.
Speaker 5: I was from the ages of three to six. I
Speaker 5: don't have a lot of tangible memories. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 5: I told you last night that I used to sit
Speaker 5: outside my bedroom wind up on the third story in Surrey,
Speaker 5: and there was a next door neighbor, a woman that
Speaker 5: would drive in around ten o'clock every night on our
Speaker 5: motorcycle with like various men.
Speaker 2: Didn't have a driver. I just assume everybody has a driver.
Speaker 6: No, she she drove her own motorcycle own.
Speaker 8: This is where you learned about, you know, a lot
Speaker 8: of things. It's done human sexuality.
Speaker 5: Well I wouldn't say that that we you know, this
Speaker 5: was in a driveway, so but that's you know, Yes,
Speaker 5: it's very special to be back.
Speaker 8: Making the normal jokes we would make because we're in
Speaker 8: our room. I know, Sky, we were here to be psychotic.
Speaker 2: So it is time now for the number one pick
Speaker 2: of the Week, presented by Draft Kings Sports Book and
Speaker 2: mark an incredible amount of pressure here in your hometown
Speaker 2: to nail the first pick. What do you got in
Speaker 2: our draft?
Speaker 5: I'm going to go, uh, San Francisco at Cleveland, all right?
Speaker 5: I think this is an interesting thing for a number
Speaker 5: of reasons.
Speaker 2: Well, every chance he's had so far this season.
Speaker 6: I'm really more I'm taking the Niners.
Speaker 5: I kind of want to see week to week if
Speaker 5: anyone like what happened to Cleveland against the Ravens. I thought,
Speaker 5: from a defensive standpoint was concerning on offense, you have
Speaker 5: Dorian tom You've got you've got a rookie playing quarterback.
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that the offense with no Nick Chubb
Speaker 5: collapsed against a very good Ravens defense.
Speaker 3: But well only after it happened though, because they they
Speaker 3: traded Josh Dobbs based off Thomson Robinson having a big
Speaker 3: preseason slash camp right, and I wonder if we're if
Speaker 3: we don't have Deshaun Watson in this game, are they
Speaker 3: really kicking themselves?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: If he's facing some type of appsence.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't know if you have if you have
Speaker 5: if you have Watson. I think they were counting on
Speaker 5: Watson not missing games to begin with. I mean if
Speaker 5: in theory, if you did, they're not the same team.
Speaker 5: And I just think not having Nick Chubb, you've ripped
Speaker 5: the identity out of the offense. But can this defense,
Speaker 5: which really you know, if they stay healthy under Jim Schwartz,
Speaker 5: I really do think is a top three defense in
Speaker 5: the NFL. I mean, you're gonna have that game like Baltimore.
Speaker 5: Part of it was situational with what the offense gave Baltimore,
Speaker 5: a couple shorter fields and stuff. But we haven't seen
Speaker 5: Brock Party uncomfortable. Like it's like there's not there's not
Speaker 5: a stretch of quarters or even drives where Brock Patty
Speaker 5: season last season, even but even last season, any level
Speaker 5: of discomfort, but any level of discomfort though I think
Speaker 5: last season it's like he's still a rookie. It's like
Speaker 5: he's up display and it's like, I think people want
Speaker 5: to keep trying to find reasons why it's not about
Speaker 5: Brock Party that it's clearly just the offense. Season I'm
Speaker 5: seeing them make throws that tell me it's a lot
Speaker 5: to do with brock Party too, that this idea that
Speaker 5: we just deemphasize his play and who is as a quarterback?
Speaker 6: Can Cleveland make him uncomfortable? Is this the defense that
Speaker 6: can do it?
Speaker 5: And if the Browns can't do it and you're at
Speaker 5: home and you're not competitive against the Niners, and if
Speaker 5: you do have Watson on the field, I have so
Speaker 5: many questions about this Browns team.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's surprising actually, because like.
Speaker 8: You were so high a week ago and they're without
Speaker 8: their starting quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is the Niners. Here's the Niners, Bye
Speaker 3: bye week. Now they're scoring thirty thirty thirty.
Speaker 2: That's kind of weird, isn't it. So do they just
Speaker 2: lay down thirty walk to forty two?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 7: I think if they have Watson they can win this game.
Speaker 8: The forty nine ers can't play at that level each
Speaker 8: and every week. They're going on the road after a
Speaker 8: big time win on Sunday Night, it's easily the toughest matchup.
Speaker 7: Well, I guess the helse.
Speaker 8: I mean I was gonna say toughest matchup defensively, but
Speaker 8: I think they'll put up a better fight if you
Speaker 8: don't have Watson, though it sounds like it's going to
Speaker 8: be PJ.
Speaker 7: Walker. Well then it's hard to really imagine graduations.
Speaker 2: To you, Greg, that's right up your alley.
Speaker 7: My god. BJ Walker. Yeah, and they're coming, you know, Cleveland's.
Speaker 3: Coming off the bye and Miles Garrett and a number
Speaker 3: of Cleveland players were happy to see that by for
Speaker 3: health reasons obviously, No, Nick Chubb. I guess my point is,
Speaker 3: and enough with any you know, drama, Like I'm locking
Speaker 3: up the Niners because they're in the zone number one.
Speaker 8: What did they get out of the zone with PJ Walker?
Speaker 8: The person who likes to do the mirror test? You're
Speaker 8: doing PJ Walker against the best team.
Speaker 5: Well, we probably know that we have a problem because
Speaker 5: I like, I we texted our I.
Speaker 2: Thought we don't do the mirror test? I thought we do?
Speaker 7: What that spread is? I just like to put it
Speaker 7: back in youths, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good job. So yeah, so the Browns.
Speaker 3: It's gonna the reason I'm locking up the Niners, Like
Speaker 3: someone's gotta show me.
Speaker 2: They can stand toe to toe with this team.
Speaker 3: And Cleveland's been way too inconsistent to me, whether Watson's
Speaker 3: there or not, to really feel like with Nick Chubb
Speaker 3: not there, that they're gonna be able to hang. And
Speaker 3: even if San Francisco continues to roll here, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: It wouldn't tell me that Cleveland's a fraud or their
Speaker 3: defense isn't for real. I just feel like you're kind
Speaker 3: of nobody wants to play San Francisco, so using them
Speaker 3: as the measuring stick. As the Cowboys learned, Okay, maybe
Speaker 3: they'll learn they're not super Bowl type favorite team, but
Speaker 3: we already know that about the Browns. I don't put
Speaker 3: them in that category without Chubb already. So I think
Speaker 3: for the Niners, it's about is this if we is
Speaker 3: this the team we think that they might be, like
Speaker 3: I'm saying, jugg ernaut situation, And if they roll over
Speaker 3: a very good, maybe even great Browns defense, it's yet
Speaker 3: another indication we might be dealing with one of the
Speaker 3: big powerhouses we've seen in the league in several years.
Speaker 5: So I also am locking them up. We made these
Speaker 5: locks before the show started. I like when we do that, Dan,
Speaker 5: last week was a disaster.
Speaker 2: Lock rows are.
Speaker 6: Back, Yeah, but last week the lock bros got axed.
Speaker 2: You know because Greg was in it too.
Speaker 6: It doesn't work.
Speaker 2: It's just us.
Speaker 7: I do want to know. Posit to you, guys. If PJ.
Speaker 8: Walker starts this game and the line is over seven
Speaker 8: you brought.
Speaker 2: This up literally in two and a half week, go from.
Speaker 6: Where the line is right now?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 2: Do you want to do?
Speaker 7: You guys? Don't you stay with I would move off
Speaker 7: the lone.
Speaker 8: So we're taping on Thursday in the UK, it's I
Speaker 8: guess Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Still in the it's actually Monday in LA right right now?
Speaker 7: I know, like Mark just turned fifty again.
Speaker 6: Congratulations, all right, good celebrated twice.
Speaker 8: I suspect Watson mispractice Wednesday, and then it's already creeping up.
Speaker 8: It's up to six and a half now. I suspect
Speaker 8: if he's out, that thing's going up to.
Speaker 2: Eight err and then we'll move off the lot.
Speaker 7: Okay, works what I know?
Speaker 6: I like.
Speaker 7: I think it's good.
Speaker 3: Certainly a movie stay at the lock, regardless of just
Speaker 3: to get Greg Mack.
Speaker 6: It's a moving target.
Speaker 5: Greg is creating rules like midway through the eighth season
Speaker 5: of doing Locks. But I may do it to be
Speaker 5: a gentleman, Greg. We'll see, I may.
Speaker 8: Not I want to see Randy Gregory joining this team.
Speaker 8: The forty nine ers like this defensive line. Nick Bosa
Speaker 8: is the number one past defensive end in the league
Speaker 8: so far this year, despite the lack of sacks. According
Speaker 8: to PFF, Armstead and Hargrave are both top ten. Like
Speaker 8: you throw in another pass rusher into that mix. I'm
Speaker 8: very excited to see that. I'm excited to see Ayuku
Speaker 8: to me, is taking another level route running against this
Speaker 8: this Brown secondary.
Speaker 7: I don't think they slow him.
Speaker 5: One little concerning thing about Cleveland's defense, and you know,
Speaker 5: I would like to dig deeper as to how PFF
Speaker 5: actually marks this, but they have as the fifth worst
Speaker 5: tackling team in the league, the Browns, and so you
Speaker 5: look at the way the Niners attack, it's like you've
Speaker 5: got wide open receivers Ayuk, McCaffrey, Deebo Samuel. It's like,
Speaker 5: if that is how they operate us tackling team, I
Speaker 5: haven't seen that watching them, I thought they've been better
Speaker 5: than that. Then I'm compared it to years past. But
Speaker 5: it's like the Niners are going to find a way
Speaker 5: to puncture you no matter who you are, and like
Speaker 5: they just made a fool out of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5: I don't know if Cleveland's defense is any better than Dallas's.
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Speaker 7: Pick two Greg all right, I'm excited.
Speaker 8: This I believe is the national game over here, and
Speaker 8: I believe it's got a nice little crew of e
Speaker 8: and a iron Eagle and Charles Davis back in the state.
Speaker 8: It's Seahawks at Bengals. Early Bengals favored by three.
Speaker 7: Fun game. Nice?
Speaker 5: Uh, what is doing with his voice when he gets
Speaker 5: into this? I don't know what's happening here?
Speaker 7: Fun game?
Speaker 8: Where don't feel like I really know much about the
Speaker 8: Seahawks after four weeks, just because the last two games
Speaker 8: were against the Panthers and the Giants, and we saw
Speaker 8: their pass rush really come alive. It's like, if that stays,
Speaker 8: this team's pretty dangerous. But the matchups have been pretty
Speaker 8: easy for the Seahawks offense, which has been good, not great,
Speaker 8: has left me a little wanting, similar to the Bengals defense,
Speaker 8: which look even last week. I looked at it and like,
Speaker 8: these recurring issues of the Bengals not really being able
Speaker 8: to stop the run, being a little underwhelming defensively.
Speaker 7: Is continuing week after week.
Speaker 8: But the thing that did change was Joe Burrow moving
Speaker 8: around so well, and I think this is now a
Speaker 8: nice matchup for the new Joe Burrow. You probably have
Speaker 8: t Higgins back, he was at practice on Wednesday, and
Speaker 8: you're going up against a Seahawks defense which added Jamal
Speaker 8: Adams a couple weeks ago. He's now cleared concussion protocol
Speaker 8: because they had their bye week. And you have Devin
Speaker 8: Witherspoon and you have Rik Wollen. We haven't seen those
Speaker 8: three guys all playing together. Very curious if Witherspoon moves
Speaker 8: back to the outside, because the only reason he was
Speaker 8: in the slot for that game near the line of
Speaker 8: scrimmage making all those kind of crazy plays was because
Speaker 8: Jamal Adams had a concussion early and then he took
Speaker 8: Adams his position and they moved a different cornerback out wide.
Speaker 7: So that's very intriguing.
Speaker 8: But Adams looked great in those like seven or eight
Speaker 8: snaps before he got hurt, and I go Witherspoon Adams
Speaker 8: like and Woolen. You can kind of mix them all up,
Speaker 8: and Quandary Diggs and suddenly they're they're cooking with some
Speaker 8: gas too.
Speaker 7: I think this is a really fun matchup.
Speaker 8: I kind of liked the Seahawks to cover the three
Speaker 8: points and maybe win this game.
Speaker 7: I'm going to pick them to win this game. But
Speaker 7: either way, I'm fascinating to see this one.
Speaker 5: Jamal Adams had he did clear concussion protocols, So that's
Speaker 5: that's big news for you know.
Speaker 6: What that means well, but it's certainly trending in the
Speaker 6: right direction.
Speaker 3: I just mean, you know, he hasn't played in well
Speaker 3: over a year, and he came out immediately for that game.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they wanted back in the field. They're paying
Speaker 3: them a lot of money with all dos. Who's my
Speaker 3: starting for the Browns?
Speaker 2: Falder restructed PJ. Walker. I think this is the first
Speaker 2: overall pick this week. I think you got the first
Speaker 2: pick with the second time.
Speaker 5: No disrespect, Mark, I mean it's you know, I run
Speaker 5: my own organization and draft as Icee fits so well,
Speaker 5: we end up watching all these games anyways.
Speaker 3: So so you have Seahawks love it. I mean, they
Speaker 3: laid that egg in week one. I think they got
Speaker 3: caught flat footed by the Rams, but ever since, they've
Speaker 3: been great for three weeks and now Cincinnati is more.
Speaker 3: Like I was so relieved when Joe Burrow led it
Speaker 3: up last week against Arizona because we the AFC needs him,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like we need more teams to be
Speaker 3: spicy and feel like super Bowl type contenders right now.
Speaker 3: It's been a bit of a weird start to the season.
Speaker 3: And adding Burrow back, if he can just continue to
Speaker 3: build off that game, to me, Cincinnati's back and we
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about anything or come after Zach
Speaker 3: Taylor and.
Speaker 8: They could be two and four after this week and
Speaker 8: they could play well and lose to it.
Speaker 3: That's why it's a big game. I mean, So you
Speaker 3: have a Seattle team playing really well going to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: If Burrow is healthy, he's he's gonna be able to
Speaker 3: score points, and if t Higgins is back even better
Speaker 3: and Cincinnati again it's not a must win, but yeah,
Speaker 3: you fall to two and four and once again you're
Speaker 3: kind of you're right back where you started where you
Speaker 3: feel like you're in desperation next week, and you know
Speaker 3: who they have next.
Speaker 2: Week, the Bills. So it's like they kind.
Speaker 3: Of got to win this game at least one of
Speaker 3: these two games. So I'm really excited to see how
Speaker 3: these two teams go out it And and Gino is
Speaker 3: playing well again this year. You have the running game,
Speaker 3: which I've really been impressed with both those guys in
Speaker 3: the backfield and how they compliment each other.
Speaker 2: I think Seattle is a tough team.
Speaker 3: I think it's a tough matchup, and I think this
Speaker 3: is one of those games that could go down to
Speaker 3: the final minutes. I'm gonna go with Cincinnati because I
Speaker 3: always at the end like go with Joe if Joe
Speaker 3: is right, But it would not surprise me Seattle got
Speaker 3: out of.
Speaker 2: There with a win.
Speaker 5: They asked spur out if this is as close as
Speaker 5: he's fell to one hundred percent since all this havoc
Speaker 5: occurred to him, He said, by far. And I mean
Speaker 5: I don't think there was a bigger development last week
Speaker 5: than watching him play healthy, like the healthy version of
Speaker 5: the me and what happened with Jamar Chase like all
Speaker 5: I want to see is like it in its form
Speaker 5: this weekend, to carry over that this is who they are,
Speaker 5: because they're right back at the top of the AFC pile.
Speaker 5: If that's the case, I mean they we had an
Speaker 5: unhealthy player unable to do what he wanted and they
Speaker 5: and they looked like a complete lost ship. And I
Speaker 5: think they would take care of Seattle. I would pick
Speaker 5: them to win by above the spread.
Speaker 2: No, I know someone who agrees with you. WHOA to
Speaker 2: the zoo?
Speaker 6: All right to the zoo.
Speaker 10: Hello over London, Good to see all my fans out there.
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 10: Next back, he thought, my brothers put me in one
Speaker 10: of those cages at the Zoo and there'd be no
Speaker 10: way I could get out.
Speaker 7: Well, I came to save the year.
Speaker 10: Around the NFL podcast today, war picks that get everyone
Speaker 10: to just tune out or play it on four time
Speaker 10: speed aren't gonna happen anymore.
Speaker 7: I'm bet in charge.
Speaker 10: Maybe Yeah, we're staying home in a jungle. This goes
Speaker 10: out to all my UK Bengals fans out there. The
Speaker 10: Bengals take care of business. Is the Seahawks walk it up?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Greg, you had any guts at all. You go Monoly
Speaker 2: Mono with me. Walk up your boy, Gino in a
Speaker 2: big Oh.
Speaker 10: But I'm feeling you're.
Speaker 7: Gonna get cowering too.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 10: Let me guess the forty six has my favorite be
Speaker 10: a man, Greg do it?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Nick point.
Speaker 7: Was the most gutless choice of the week.
Speaker 8: I appreciate that, Nick, go ahead, way, I'm taking the
Speaker 8: Ravens what he just challenged you as a man. He
Speaker 8: just said, I bet you guys are you're actually taking
Speaker 8: the most gutless pick of the week, and that you
Speaker 8: guys versus p sticking with Ravens.
Speaker 7: No, of course, I don't really believe.
Speaker 3: That that's that's bad when it's Gino, but when it's
Speaker 3: the Seahawks and you get challenged as a man.
Speaker 7: But I don't really must.
Speaker 8: I don't believe in the Seahawks as some great team.
Speaker 8: I think they're good. They're find out the Seahawks.
Speaker 6: It's taking on the challenge of Nick. I mean, I
Speaker 6: think that this.
Speaker 2: Nick from watching.
Speaker 8: Beat them will be pleasure enough. But I'm not really
Speaker 8: that week.
Speaker 3: He comes on this show, and by the way, the
Speaker 3: swagger of Nick is unchecked at this point.
Speaker 2: He's out of control animal in that zoo. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: love it. The week away helped and you've been he's
Speaker 2: He's right about the Niners.
Speaker 3: If if Deshaun Watson does not play, I'm going with
Speaker 3: Nick to the zoo and get behind Cincinnati. And I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying last chance great because it feels like
Speaker 3: a big moment for you to go up against Nick.
Speaker 3: He's been every week coming at you on this show
Speaker 3: to really put him in his place.
Speaker 6: Right, you could you could quiet him for a month?
Speaker 8: No, I think I think that's a great point. When
Speaker 8: someone comes in last place year after year and challenges
Speaker 8: the champion three out of the last four years, that's
Speaker 8: exactly when the champion should stay doing what he already
Speaker 8: does and get another championship.
Speaker 7: I'm staying with.
Speaker 3: The raven, no sense, no sense of the moment. All right,
Speaker 3: Let's move on then, and thank you Nick. As always,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Washington at Atlanta with.
Speaker 2: The third pick.
Speaker 6: It's you know, it's not man, it's not h You're
Speaker 6: killing my draft.
Speaker 2: Well, what do you Where should I go? No? What
Speaker 2: would I take?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 6: Like like that's the thing.
Speaker 5: Let's be real with some of these slates last couple
Speaker 5: of weeks, like there are not a lot of gyms
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 3: Well now my choices, I'm pretty rough here, so uh no,
Speaker 3: I actually kind of like the game just because, uh
Speaker 3: you know, show me Desmond Rindter you can put this
Speaker 3: together for a couple of weeks in a row, and
Speaker 3: because if you can, the Falcons should win that division.
Speaker 3: Like all they need is an okay quarterback, which they
Speaker 3: haven't had for most of the season, but he was.
Speaker 3: He was certainly more than competent in Week five. And
Speaker 3: if they if we get that guy again, then I'm
Speaker 3: not saying the Falcons are a fun watch at that point,
Speaker 3: but they they are at least someone a team that
Speaker 3: should be paid attention to. And again in that division,
Speaker 3: it's crazy these these South teams.
Speaker 2: You don't even have to really like the teams.
Speaker 3: If these teams could just get to a competent level
Speaker 3: of consistent play, they're going to stack wins because the
Speaker 3: schedule is so soft. Everyone else, everyone else just seems
Speaker 3: is playing a killer schedule across the league, except for
Speaker 3: these South teams.
Speaker 8: Because they play each other right, and they play the
Speaker 8: AFC South too.
Speaker 3: So like that that's why it's it's interesting when you
Speaker 3: look you look at all these schedules across the league.
Speaker 2: Wow, this schedule is getting tough.
Speaker 3: It's all the teams that aren't in the South because
Speaker 3: they don't get the South, and they just are slobbery
Speaker 3: knocking with each other.
Speaker 5: I think there's a this is a doorway for Atlanta
Speaker 5: to show us who they can be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like that's that's why I'm into the game.
Speaker 3: And and on the Washington side, man, it was it
Speaker 3: was as grim as it gets, uh on in primetime,
Speaker 3: and you just want to see how this team bounces
Speaker 3: back from just getting their doors blown off and you know,
Speaker 3: to let it get that ugly against the Bears, and
Speaker 3: it was supposed to be a celebration at FedEx Field,
Speaker 3: So now you have a chance to kind of dust
Speaker 3: yourself off. I think they have the right quarterback for it,
Speaker 3: and Sam Howe to that they're not going to be
Speaker 3: you know, in their own head after getting beat the
Speaker 3: way they did. But at the same time, I can't
Speaker 3: really say trust these of these teams, So I don't
Speaker 3: know what shows up here.
Speaker 5: I don't like I mean, this is a Ron rivera team,
Speaker 5: it should be its stronghold should be its defense.
Speaker 6: There are pieces on defense.
Speaker 5: I like their front, but you gave up thirty three
Speaker 5: points to Denver, who we don't trust, thirty seven a Buffalo,
Speaker 5: all right, thirty four to the Eagles. These are good teams,
Speaker 5: but forty to the Bears. AJ Brown had one hundred
Speaker 5: and seventy five yards a couple of weeks ago against them.
Speaker 5: DJ Moore breaks out for eight catches, two hundred and
Speaker 5: thirty and three touchdowns. It's like Atlanta, who's been throwing
Speaker 5: the ball more than we expected, and if Ritard doesn't
Speaker 5: make mistakes and they can run well like they should
Speaker 5: win this game.
Speaker 7: I don't quite agree.
Speaker 8: I'm kind of with Vegas, who puts the Falcons at
Speaker 8: two and a half points as a favorite at home,
Speaker 8: which is the ultimate like, eh, don't trust the two
Speaker 8: and a half point home favorite. It's basically like a
Speaker 8: we don't know line, like we'll we'll give the home
Speaker 8: team a little bit, but whatever. If you look at
Speaker 8: like their Dboa, for instance, it doesn't surprise me. These
Speaker 8: teams are twenty third and twenty fourth in the league.
Speaker 8: That's sort of where I'd put them in my power
Speaker 8: rankings despite their record. Like the Falcons don't deserve right
Speaker 8: now to be four and two. These two teams feel
Speaker 8: like they should both be three and three. But the
Speaker 8: Commander's defense has been so bad thirty first in points
Speaker 8: per drive allowed, and it's just because like they have
Speaker 8: a couple of big weaknesses. Jack del Rio's defenses always
Speaker 8: have communication breakdowns.
Speaker 7: Just guys are flying open.
Speaker 8: Teams are killing the rookie Emmanuel Forbes, their first round pick,
Speaker 8: week after week. And then Cody Barton, who is a
Speaker 8: linebacker that they sign in free agency, is just getting
Speaker 8: targeted week after week. So it's another matchup week after week.
Speaker 8: The Falcons are playing these teams that are pretty good
Speaker 8: stopping the run and are almost daring them to pass
Speaker 8: against them.
Speaker 7: And can Ritter step up?
Speaker 8: And can Howell get a little more Terry McLaurin and
Speaker 8: Johan Dotson involved, like he's weird, He's played well, but
Speaker 8: like take advantage of your best guys. I kind of
Speaker 8: like the Commanders in this game, just because I don't
Speaker 8: feel like the Falcons are a four and two team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Falcons also, can they get after everyone's gotten
Speaker 3: after House so far? Who's been sacked more than any quarterback?
Speaker 3: In the league twenty nine, he's been hit more fifty times,
Speaker 3: he's been pressured the most. And you know, Washington on
Speaker 3: top of that, are kind of beating themselves up. They
Speaker 3: are in the bottom five in the league in turnovers,
Speaker 3: as I said, the most sacks allowed. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: been overall kind of a I think a disappointing start
Speaker 3: for Washington, who a team that I think was going
Speaker 3: to be a little more competitive than they were. So
Speaker 3: I think once again, the Falcons feel like at home
Speaker 3: where Ritter hasn't lost a start yet, you know, that
Speaker 3: feels like a chance for them to continue to stack wins,
Speaker 3: even if maybe I'm not totally sold on them.
Speaker 8: Hasn't lost a start at home going back to high school.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's stuff to do. Didn't lose one in college,
Speaker 8: hasn't lost one in the pros. And you get Matt
Speaker 8: Ryan on a Falcons game.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 8: Oh, actually, I don't think he's going to be taking
Speaker 8: chefs all.
Speaker 3: Right, Snakes to me, I'm gonna grab Lake game here.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna grab Eagles at Jets, Eagles favored by
Speaker 3: seven here. Yeah, it's a big it's a big challenge here.
Speaker 3: For New York and specifically Zach Wilson, who was bad
Speaker 3: better than good against Denver, but did show you some
Speaker 3: things that he wasn't doing earlier in the season. And
Speaker 3: again it's a question now for them to be functional,
Speaker 3: especially against a defense like Philadelphia. They can't get super
Speaker 3: conservative and just run on first down constantly and throw
Speaker 3: check down passes. Philadelphia's gonna put up points against the
Speaker 3: Jets defense, and it's going to be up to Daniel
Speaker 3: Hackett too, even if it's like doesn't make it comfortable,
Speaker 3: call a more aggressive game plan on offense. And I
Speaker 3: saw there was a play it was driving. It was
Speaker 3: driving me and every other Jet fan crazy. They Jets
Speaker 3: are running the ball effectively against Denver and early, you know,
Speaker 3: throughout the game, even before Breese broke the seventy yarder,
Speaker 3: and you're thinking yourself, man, like this is where you
Speaker 3: open up. Where's the play action? Use this great running
Speaker 3: game today to help the passing. And it wasn't until
Speaker 3: like late in the third quarter when you saw Wilson
Speaker 3: perfectly execute a play action and hit Garrett Wilson for
Speaker 3: thirty five yards or so, and it's like, we need
Speaker 3: more of that.
Speaker 2: They have to open it up on offense.
Speaker 3: The problem now is Elijah Vera Tucker tears his ACL.
Speaker 3: He was their best, most versatile offensive lineman. With this
Speaker 3: Philadelphia pass rush against a beleaguered and beat up and
Speaker 3: not overly competent Jets offensive line, it's gonna be hard
Speaker 3: to ask Zatt Wilson to make plays when I don't
Speaker 3: imagine he's gonna have a lot of time to do it.
Speaker 8: It's such a playing the Eagles defense now because they
Speaker 8: had a certain profile under Jonathan Gannon where you could
Speaker 8: run against them. They almost invited the run. They're the
Speaker 8: opposite this year. They've been very good stopping the run.
Speaker 8: I think it's because Jordan Davis has gotten better. In general,
Speaker 8: they've been much easier to pass against. That's where the
Speaker 8: injuries have been for them. In the middle of the field.
Speaker 8: That's where I think Zach Wilson can win at his best.
Speaker 8: Darius Slay was out of practice Wednesday. I don't think
Speaker 8: he'll miss this game, but he hasn't been playing that well.
Speaker 7: So the Jets I think, need to win through the air.
Speaker 8: But then that pass rush, which did start improving last
Speaker 8: week with redex certainly with Jalen Carter like you have
Speaker 8: to hold up.
Speaker 7: Are they built for that? I don't know.
Speaker 8: And are they built to get after Jalen Hurts now
Speaker 8: that the Eagles like pass protection starting to get better
Speaker 8: each and every week.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I just think the Eagles are such a problem for
Speaker 8: any team, much less like a team that's has imbalanced,
Speaker 8: you know, one side of the ball versus the other,
Speaker 8: like the Jets.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like the strengths of Philadelphia, which begins
Speaker 5: with their offensive line, neutralizes a really special element of
Speaker 5: the Jets. And like we saw them absolutely make life
Speaker 5: help against Russell Wilson with their waves of defenders that
Speaker 5: I think that's what they If they can impact the
Speaker 5: game that way, that would be great. But I don't
Speaker 5: like to hear a Jets offense that has to win
Speaker 5: through the air. I just don't think that. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, the Eagles also were about balance. No, I
Speaker 5: mean I would just say, yeah, long drives and use
Speaker 5: Breese Hall is a star and it's like he you know,
Speaker 5: last week was the first week there was sort of unleashed.
Speaker 5: There's just there's an element to their offense with Zach Wilson,
Speaker 5: who has been better where it's just like you don't
Speaker 5: know what you're gonna get. And I feel like the
Speaker 5: Eagles are the type of team that's going to find
Speaker 5: a way.
Speaker 6: To completely dominate that matchup they had.
Speaker 5: You know, the Rams played them tight for a bit,
Speaker 5: but that there was a point last week where they
Speaker 5: had two hundred and fifty yards and the Rams had
Speaker 5: about fifty and it's like we were watching them kind
Speaker 5: of get out of their funk on that side of
Speaker 5: the ball on the ground. And then last week Dallas
Speaker 5: Goddard becomes a star again and a j Brown's had
Speaker 5: big games weeks in a row. Jalen Hurts looked great
Speaker 5: last week. So it's like this Jets defense like if
Speaker 5: it's going to be put all on them to stop it,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of pressure there.
Speaker 2: It's a bad matchup for the Jets.
Speaker 3: I think Eagles fans should be feeling pretty confident about
Speaker 3: this game. I don't think the Jets have ever beaten
Speaker 3: the Eagles in the history of the really well, I
Speaker 3: think that's what I think that's continued. They have never
Speaker 3: won against the Eagles home or away, and the Eagles
Speaker 3: have the number one run defense in the league. The
Speaker 3: Jets have been a sneaky, saggy against the run as well,
Speaker 3: so it's could be a big DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 7: I love the way Swift is running.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I almost feel like it's been under play because
Speaker 8: you think about that offensive line. He's so decisive. He's
Speaker 8: a different player than he was in Detroit. It's very
Speaker 8: exciting if you're a Jet, I mean an Eagles fan.
Speaker 8: I like that they're seven point underdogs the Eagles. I
Speaker 8: picked your Jets. I had faith last week, but this
Speaker 8: week I would take those seven points and I would
Speaker 8: say to be a tough one.
Speaker 3: I think the only way the Jets win this game
Speaker 3: where it's close in the fourth quarter, is they get
Speaker 3: a defensive scorer special teams.
Speaker 2: I think they need something big.
Speaker 8: They have never beaten the Eagles back to seventy three.
Speaker 8: They've outscored the Jets by a margin of three thirty
Speaker 8: five to one. So you got to win by one
Speaker 8: forty one in this game to even that out.
Speaker 3: Well, it might take about one hundred years, but we're
Speaker 3: going to work in that margin. But I don't think
Speaker 3: it's going to work out for the Jets in this There.
Speaker 5: Is a small tear in the fabric of reality with
Speaker 5: the Jets. I think they have a Breece Hall, a
Speaker 5: Bryce Hall, and two Michael Carter's. There's something a little
Speaker 5: strange going on.
Speaker 7: And Aaron Rodgers, who haf Bryce Hoff?
Speaker 6: Yes there's a Bryce Hall too, there is.
Speaker 3: There's a Breece Hall, Brice Hall, and Michael Carters.
Speaker 6: Get a little more creative here with our our team building.
Speaker 8: I kind of like, is it a bryceff now? My
Speaker 8: brain is I mean not getting that wrong? Wait, this
Speaker 8: is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Aubrey Hoff jet lag. Okay, by the.
Speaker 6: Way, two minutes of the worst.
Speaker 3: Thing, the worst thing, the worst thing that could have
Speaker 3: happened is Aaron Rodgers not being playing football for so
Speaker 3: many reasons. Just shut up, dude, this smack being appearances
Speaker 3: are getting a little tedious again, and it's like I
Speaker 3: wanted it to be great if he just had a
Speaker 3: football season to focus on, but he doesn't. Let's take
Speaker 3: a break and then we'll continue the draft when we
Speaker 3: get back.
Speaker 2: All right, we are back. Let's get right back into
Speaker 2: DoD draft.
Speaker 1: Greg, You are up fun little game.
Speaker 7: Who would have thought that Lions.
Speaker 8: Favored by three points at Buccaneers would be flexed into
Speaker 8: the four to twenty five windows, so more the country
Speaker 8: can watch a little.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a bit of an indictment of the
Speaker 3: slate more than yeah.
Speaker 8: Well it's in frankly an indictment of Eagles Jets because
Speaker 8: I think they were thinking that was the game. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and that's what Aaron Rodgers injury has done to us.
Speaker 8: But you know what, the Bucks have helped themselves putting
Speaker 8: themselves into this spot. I get into three and one
Speaker 8: by playing solid defense for the most part and getting
Speaker 8: really improved play by Baker may He's not playing amazing,
Speaker 8: but he's just making better decisions. It's like, oh, Baker
Speaker 8: Mayfield but mature, and I guess I never expected that
Speaker 8: to necessarily happen. Some quarterbacks never get there. Maybe it's
Speaker 8: the coaching. Dave Canalis did a great job in Seattle.
Speaker 8: Maybe it's the schedule. But I really think Dan that
Speaker 8: if you just watch him on a snap to snap base.
Speaker 8: His last game was a good example against the Saint
Speaker 8: I don't think he played great, but just like every
Speaker 8: decision made sense and they were quicker decisions for the
Speaker 8: most part. He's not doing anything special, but he's not
Speaker 8: making mistakes. He'll have a couple good throws that you're like, Okay,
Speaker 8: that's why he was taken first overall, but he's not
Speaker 8: hurting them. He's not taking things off the table, and
Speaker 8: that's what you need to do against a Lions defense
Speaker 8: that's been opportunistic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought against the Saints, you know, having watched
Speaker 5: Baker really closely with the Browns and heat, I think
Speaker 5: we can forget that the year they went to the playoffs,
Speaker 5: he had a stretch of play that was I thought
Speaker 5: some of his best play and it was what you're saying.
Speaker 6: He wasn't creating mistakes.
Speaker 5: He was seeing the field better against the Saints in
Speaker 5: that first half, eighteen for twenty three, one hundred and
Speaker 5: forty three yards, two touchdowns. He had no Mike Evans
Speaker 5: in the second half, and Mike Evans is still dealing
Speaker 5: with a hamsters.
Speaker 7: Out of practice. That's concerning. Godwin looks better, but that's
Speaker 7: asking a lot out of guy.
Speaker 6: He had a big play with Godwin.
Speaker 5: But it's like I think Baker also like the little
Speaker 5: things that he can do. He's used his legs to
Speaker 5: convert like a string of third and longs in a
Speaker 5: number of games, and I know I think the Baker
Speaker 5: experience is like he's obviously turned off certain players, Odell
Speaker 5: Beckham being one of them. But the reports coming out
Speaker 5: of Tampa that they just love him, that he hangs
Speaker 5: out with them in his spare time, like and I know,
Speaker 5: to me this stuff matters. It's like we see quarterback
Speaker 5: locker rooms go south if you don't believe in the guy,
Speaker 5: like a Carson Wentz and others, and like the better
Speaker 5: version of Baker is showing up.
Speaker 6: I think that gives him a chance.
Speaker 5: But then it's like I look at someone like Aiden
Speaker 5: Hutchinson and who's the kind of player that's given Baker
Speaker 5: problems before, Like athletic defensive lineman who can blow up
Speaker 5: like screen passes, and you got, like Aiden Hutchinson at
Speaker 5: least like special vision to get in the way of
Speaker 5: these types of laterals and screens tip them catching. I mean,
Speaker 5: he is a star player. And the Lions to me,
Speaker 5: are playing with extreme confidence. And I see them as
Speaker 5: like just beyond the Eagles and Niners in the NFC.
Speaker 5: And I mean all the metrics say the same thing.
Speaker 5: They're growing on both sides.
Speaker 6: Of the ball to playing loose. And I don't know
Speaker 6: this is Tampa if Tampa can win this.
Speaker 5: I think very differently about them because I kind of
Speaker 5: just see them as a middle of the road offering.
Speaker 3: I talked about locking up the Lions because of what
Speaker 3: they've showed us so far and why it's time to
Speaker 3: just believe they're a team that it doesn't matter if
Speaker 3: they're home or if they're on the road, they're going
Speaker 3: to stop a team they're better than. And if they
Speaker 3: do it again here, it is it's more evidence they're Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're not Philly and they're not San Francisco, but I
Speaker 3: think they would kind of entrench themselves as the third
Speaker 3: team in the NFC.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the guy it's always.
Speaker 3: Reigning on the Baker parade, So I agree that he's
Speaker 3: played well.
Speaker 2: In three of the four games.
Speaker 3: He didn't play so well against Philly the one time
Speaker 3: where the schedule really was stiff.
Speaker 2: The next three weeks are going.
Speaker 3: To tell you a lot, because they got Detroit, Atlanta
Speaker 3: at Buffalo.
Speaker 2: And if Baker really.
Speaker 3: Is different, and like I think, I'm sure I've never
Speaker 3: heard of that Baker is a bad guy. In fact,
Speaker 3: he's like a guy that a lot of people. He's
Speaker 3: a good leader and all that it's just like, these
Speaker 3: guys will like playing with you if you get them
Speaker 3: the ball and the offense is moving and you get
Speaker 3: guys paid. That's what That's what players and teammates like
Speaker 3: about their quarterback. And the reason why he's fallen out
Speaker 3: of favor with certain teams is because he doesn't do that,
Speaker 3: because he gets into ruts and goes into he's got
Speaker 3: everything's getting batted down at the line of scrimmage and he's.
Speaker 2: Not seeing the field.
Speaker 3: I need to see more sample size to buy in
Speaker 3: on the Baker's back theory. This will be a really
Speaker 3: good test because if they play well at home and
Speaker 3: he plays well even if Mike Evans isn't Mike Evans
Speaker 3: are not even there and he still plays well, that
Speaker 3: does tell you there's something different here.
Speaker 2: I just think the sample size is still too small.
Speaker 2: But I also I'm the same guy I thought he'd
Speaker 2: be bench by now, so he's hered.
Speaker 3: He played better than I thought was possible, even against
Speaker 3: the soft schedule. This will tell us a lot.
Speaker 8: SATs defense is a tough matchup though, and he was
Speaker 8: fine in that game.
Speaker 7: I mean, Saints are a real deal defense, but.
Speaker 6: Their offense was not giving them no help.
Speaker 8: Right, and the Bucks are a little healthier. I think
Speaker 8: they're healthier in the secondary. They'll get Colijah Canti, their
Speaker 8: first round pick back on the defensive line, Brian Branch
Speaker 8: has still been out of practice. Jamior Gibbs like, no
Speaker 8: matter what week it is, the Lions are still banged up.
Speaker 8: But hey, Baker's hanging out at David Busters unlike Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: That's why they're doing it d NBS.
Speaker 5: Mark, you're up, all right, I'm gonna take my late game, okay,
Speaker 5: Arizona at Rams, I think you really. I have a
Speaker 5: little bit of a Cardinals fascination a little, but it's
Speaker 5: dimmed because I hate the fact that they lost James Connor,
Speaker 5: who I thought was having looked about as good on
Speaker 5: the ground as he has Connor, he's been a great
Speaker 5: runner this season for them.
Speaker 2: They're that's what's going to cause you to jump off
Speaker 2: the bandwagon.
Speaker 5: I'm not jumping off the bandwagon, but I mean, like
Speaker 5: PFF has them, it's like the third.
Speaker 7: He's been a top five or six running.
Speaker 6: I'd say so too.
Speaker 5: I mean I feel like Greg every week we're talking
Speaker 5: about him run the ball and like Dame, have you
Speaker 5: watched these games least.
Speaker 3: I've watched them all and he's fine, but he's not
Speaker 3: some of the type of dynamic.
Speaker 5: I think it's I am saying, the way that they've
Speaker 5: hung around in these games, like taking him out of
Speaker 5: the mix is the kind of thing that could expose
Speaker 5: them quicker and I can the Rams do it? I
Speaker 5: think so the Rams to me, You've got Matthew Stafford
Speaker 5: playing at a very high level. I'm assuming he's fully
Speaker 5: back to health wise, because I think like a couple
Speaker 5: of his throws might have been impacted last week by
Speaker 5: that hip situation.
Speaker 6: The Cardinals, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's like sort of week after week, Josh Dobbs keeps
Speaker 5: making plays, and.
Speaker 6: That's why I believe in them.
Speaker 5: I mean, they've been in every one of these contests,
Speaker 5: and I think I think that they're gonna They're gonna
Speaker 5: sneak wins here at some point. But I mean, we
Speaker 5: also saw Josh Dobbs start to make a couple killer
Speaker 5: mistakes last week.
Speaker 6: Gave the pick six. They can't do it. They have
Speaker 6: very little wiggle room, but they're well coached.
Speaker 8: I always knew for locks and picks and spread like
Speaker 8: there was no matchup more reliable in the NFL for
Speaker 8: five straight years than Sean McVay turning Cliff Kingsbury like
Speaker 8: into the college coach that Spice Rack would always point out,
Speaker 8: Yeah he was. He was under five hundred with Patrick
Speaker 8: Mahomes as his quarterback. Like that's how bad Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 8: was in college, and Sean McVay would just boat race
Speaker 8: him up and down the field twice a year. Now
Speaker 8: it's a new coaching staff, but it's not a good
Speaker 8: Cardinals defense, like as encouraging and I think they play hard,
Speaker 8: they're ultimately under manned there, and I think the Rams
Speaker 8: are as quarterback dependent as any team in the league.
Speaker 8: They need Stafford to be full Stafford hopefully he is,
Speaker 8: but if he is with Cupp and you're seeing those
Speaker 8: like three way option routes where I know Pukah's great,
Speaker 8: but there's no one like Cup where it's literally Cup
Speaker 8: just reading the defense after the snap in Stafford knowing
Speaker 8: exactly how Cup's gonna do it, and you could just
Speaker 8: see him having like one hundred and seventy yards in
Speaker 8: this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a roadmap to what you're
Speaker 3: going to see a lot this season. Now through because
Speaker 3: Nikua had that great runway with Cup out of the
Speaker 3: lineup to prove himself, and then you saw it in
Speaker 3: the first they were targeted combined twenty three times, twelve
Speaker 3: to Cup, eleven to Nikua.
Speaker 2: So that's that's the offense, and.
Speaker 3: It's going to be fun to see them continue to
Speaker 3: play together. I think they're they're both going to eat
Speaker 3: in this game. And you know, I think Arizona has
Speaker 3: been a pretty good story this year that they haven't
Speaker 3: been embarrassing. But I think they will get boat raised
Speaker 3: here by the rooms.
Speaker 8: Well, let's go, Amari de Marcado, use my waiver pick.
Speaker 8: I'm back in Fantasy for the first time in a decade,
Speaker 8: Amari de Marcado. He'll be on my bench. But that's
Speaker 8: your Ravens starting running develop.
Speaker 2: It's your own team or your children.
Speaker 7: No, I am in a league.
Speaker 2: You're in a league. I am in a league.
Speaker 6: What's your record?
Speaker 8: From a neighbor friend who pushed hard at the last minute?
Speaker 7: And I like the like the people in it. I'm
Speaker 7: three and two so far.
Speaker 2: I'm okay.
Speaker 7: Points are pretty high though, so I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 7: I like how we're looking cauld.
Speaker 6: We feel great to beat Greg and fantasy if you
Speaker 6: were a neighbor.
Speaker 7: They don't know, Yeah, they don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't think really Okay, the backstory going on, or
Speaker 8: at least most most of the.
Speaker 2: Wrote a world brick by brick, they're not aware.
Speaker 7: I don't think that.
Speaker 2: So you imagine when they find out that's going to
Speaker 2: be little internet thing.
Speaker 1: The events.
Speaker 6: All right, let's see here, where are we're going? Caroline
Speaker 6: at Miami? The flop sweat Caroline at Miami.
Speaker 2: It's a pick.
Speaker 5: Well, I think Miami's fun to watch Carolina. To me,
Speaker 5: I have been on this Frank Reich beat since the
Speaker 5: preseason that I think there was this assumption, oh, you
Speaker 5: get Frank Gregg's offense, it's going to be real steady
Speaker 5: and real shore play. In the head they look completely
Speaker 5: lost to me, they cannot run the ball.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: I think it's like, oh, Frank Reich brings stability and
Speaker 5: it's a great coach to have to pair.
Speaker 6: With Bryce Young.
Speaker 5: And I'm at the point now I think we've be
Speaker 5: like did they even want Bryce Young?
Speaker 6: And the comments that Frank Reich.
Speaker 5: Made this week about his weekly meetings with David Tepper
Speaker 5: slightly concerning.
Speaker 6: Sounds like it's a bit of a boiler.
Speaker 2: Let's listen. Tough situations, Poor old Frank.
Speaker 11: There's different philosophies in ownership, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11: Some owners kind of stay, stay away and don't engage
Speaker 11: a whole lot other owners do. And his philosophy is
Speaker 11: he's going to engage and and listen. It's only been
Speaker 11: a short experience, but it's been a really good experience.
Speaker 11: It hasn't been fun, you know, it's not fun. Those
Speaker 11: those meetings aren't I wouldn't characterize them as fun meetings.
Speaker 11: But those meetings make me better, and I trust they
Speaker 11: make us better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's tough. You could hear the guy we've
Speaker 3: talked about. He's lost a lot with the cults when
Speaker 3: things got sideways, and now he's with a team that's
Speaker 3: very deep in a kind of a reboot.
Speaker 5: Are you Are you surprised that he was like that
Speaker 5: open and earnest about what's going on there?
Speaker 3: I I yeah, a little bit actually, because if it's
Speaker 3: easy to read between the lines there, because Frank Reich
Speaker 3: has been playing football and coaching football and he was
Speaker 3: a quarterback, like he knows football so much better than
Speaker 3: his boss.
Speaker 8: But I think he's just a grown man who's being honest.
Speaker 8: He prefaced it all by saying, like, I think they're
Speaker 8: good for us.
Speaker 2: Where's the meeting? What do you think the meeting is that?
Speaker 8: Like, of course, when you're zero and five, all the
Speaker 8: meetings are tough, like your meeting with your boss. They're
Speaker 8: not pleasant meetings with your boss after losing a football
Speaker 8: our cup.
Speaker 2: Leave our company out of it.
Speaker 3: Like my point was is that Frank Reich is going
Speaker 3: into this meeting and then David Tepper is telling him
Speaker 3: what why this football team needs to get better in
Speaker 3: football decis He's forced to say it's making us better
Speaker 3: when Frank Reich knows more and his pinky than the
Speaker 3: owner knows about it, and that's tough.
Speaker 6: I'm with you, and I would extend it to say that.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's there were whispers, there's maybe you know,
Speaker 5: a concept where Frank Reich didn't have full operational choice.
Speaker 2: So there which.
Speaker 8: Quarterback they're reporting. Adam Schefter said he wanted CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 6: So then you're watching c J.
Speaker 5: Stroud and the Texans offense grow and like do great
Speaker 5: things and the Panthers. I mean, if anything last year,
Speaker 5: they're not even better than last year's offense under an
Speaker 5: interim head coach. They were at least pounding people with
Speaker 5: the run down the stretch, doing something well. They're not
Speaker 5: doing anything well right now. And Bryce Young, to me,
Speaker 5: there's little moments, sure, but largely looks lost.
Speaker 6: Some of that is coaching.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're just looking for positives. In the fourth quarter
Speaker 8: of that game, which I know not a lot of
Speaker 8: people probably saw because it was a blowout, he had
Speaker 8: two of his best throws of the year at the
Speaker 8: touchdown pass where he really fired one in there that
Speaker 8: was like a high level throw, and then he had
Speaker 8: another whole shot where he puts it over the linebacker
Speaker 8: to I think it was Mingo on a crossing route.
Speaker 8: That was a high level throw, and I was just like,
Speaker 8: thank you, Bryce Young, like two high level throws. Now
Speaker 8: at that point, they're getting blown out in a game,
Speaker 8: and so you're really stretching to see positive things and
Speaker 8: it's probably a blow out here unless they can move
Speaker 8: the ball, because there's no way the Dolphin. The Dolphins
Speaker 8: aren't gonna put a lot of Panthers.
Speaker 3: Great matchup for Miami after just destroying the Giants, with
Speaker 3: not even trying last week, I just I don't understand,
Speaker 3: and maybe that's what you hear kind of a little
Speaker 3: defeat in Reike's voice. It's like, you hired me to
Speaker 3: be the head coach. I'm a former quarterback. I was
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator of the Eagles who won a Super
Speaker 3: Bowl against Tom Brady and Bill Belichick with Nick Foles
Speaker 3: as the QB. I know this position better than anyone
Speaker 3: else in this building. So if it's true that they
Speaker 3: didn't pick the guy that he thought should be the
Speaker 3: quarterback of the future, doom and now they're struggling with
Speaker 3: this other guy, what a horrendous environment for him to
Speaker 3: be in and how frustrating.
Speaker 2: That must be.
Speaker 3: So it's just, yeah, I feel for the guy, Like
Speaker 3: I think a little pushback to you, Mark, like it's
Speaker 3: not to me so much, like why this team's not
Speaker 3: going anywhere? Because you know what, is Frank Reich really
Speaker 3: proven and is he really a difference maker? It's like
Speaker 3: I think it's more maybe decay or rot behind the
Speaker 3: scenes that's creating a kind of an ugly scene and
Speaker 3: he's caught in a bad situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I mean, Frank Reig is a good head coach.
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to put it all on him. And
Speaker 5: he worked with a difficult owner, I think in Indianapolis
Speaker 5: and his previous stop, and you never heard a word
Speaker 5: about it, and it's like I just see a crack
Speaker 5: in the armor. And I think it's very tough if
Speaker 5: you don't feel aligned with your owner, if your owner
Speaker 5: is putting oppressive pressure on you, and if those meetings
Speaker 5: are about like not just he hey, I wanted this
Speaker 5: quarterback way back when, but let's tweak this this week.
Speaker 5: And it's like, David Tepper, you have a financial background,
Speaker 5: you have the money, You're not a football guy.
Speaker 8: It is a minor new owner syndrome, just like everyone
Speaker 8: was so excited about David Tepper.
Speaker 7: And there's been a lot of meddling. There's been a
Speaker 7: lot of firing.
Speaker 8: There's a half built practice facility somewhere in the wilds
Speaker 8: of West.
Speaker 7: Virginia that never got done. Like it hasn't been too
Speaker 7: smooth for.
Speaker 2: Two little little turbulence around that since South Carolina. On
Speaker 2: the Dolphins side of things, real quick, real quick, do
Speaker 2: we a we devon ah Chang, Devin A Chan, Devin Chan.
Speaker 6: I think it's a bit at this point, but really
Speaker 6: all got me.
Speaker 2: It's in my head.
Speaker 3: He's on IR so he's out this week and I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know that. Neil shouted out, if
Speaker 3: you know it, like do we still have any idea
Speaker 3: what the actual injury is other than me Like it's
Speaker 3: a weird thing where we're not hearing specifics. But he's
Speaker 3: out for the foreseeable future. And Mark, you mentioned on
Speaker 3: the Sunday Show they were a little bit.
Speaker 2: Sloppy against the Giants.
Speaker 3: I think, just keep an eye on the offense that
Speaker 3: it's not falling into any bad habits.
Speaker 2: But otherwise Miami the show.
Speaker 5: I think it's how impressive they are is that they
Speaker 5: had three turnovers, two of them killer turnovers, and they.
Speaker 6: Still did what they did. The thing is, if you
Speaker 6: don't have heen in half this game, the spread, well
Speaker 6: that's fair. That seems totally fine to me.
Speaker 5: You do have the Eagles and Chiefs over the next
Speaker 5: four weeks, so eight Chens absence matters.
Speaker 2: Greg, I mean Mark, no, Greg, Greg Greg John not
Speaker 2: doing three in a row.
Speaker 7: I will take Colts at Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Neil, you got anything over there.
Speaker 8: Jaguars are favored by four points in this game.
Speaker 7: You can listen to Spiro Didas on the call. Okay,
Speaker 7: Josh Allen in the backfield, he's buried.
Speaker 2: Is better than anyone else's Didas.
Speaker 7: That was not planned out.
Speaker 2: It's top DTAs.
Speaker 8: Okay, the Jags are really developing as the season goes along,
Speaker 8: and they're a different team than they were a year ago.
Speaker 8: They have a legit run defense, and they haven't had
Speaker 8: anything good on defense for a little bit, and they're
Speaker 8: now going against the Zach Moss and Jonathan Taylor's show
Speaker 8: that that lit up Tennessee, and so that's a test
Speaker 8: because if their run defense can limit the Colts ground game,
Speaker 8: I just don't think the Colts have enough drop back
Speaker 8: passing with Minshew to hang. And I even liked what
Speaker 8: I saw last week out of the secondary in Jacksonville.
Speaker 8: We know Campbell's been good for a while as one
Speaker 8: of their you know, Lynchpin cornerbacks, but Darius Williams playing
Speaker 8: as well as he's played since he was with the
Speaker 8: Rams a couple of years back. Andre Sisko's making plays
Speaker 8: at safety. I just like when the one of the
Speaker 8: worst defenses in the league just becomes average and then
Speaker 8: suddenly like Okay, the offense can really shine. This Jaguars
Speaker 8: team is starting to come together.
Speaker 5: I thought last year Jacksonville's win in London was a
Speaker 5: major turning point for them and they developed from there.
Speaker 5: I think it was an awakening for Trevor Lawrence and
Speaker 5: I kind of viewed that Bills win a week ago
Speaker 5: as sort of the start of their season. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think they came very close to beating the Chiefs,
Speaker 5: and they've been plagued all season long with drops. They
Speaker 5: had a lot of penalties last week against Buffalo that
Speaker 5: the work themselves out of a corner, but a different
Speaker 5: type of Jacksonville team loses the game, and I think
Speaker 5: it's just like I kind of trust them to kind
Speaker 5: of grow in a way that they did down the
Speaker 5: stretch last year. I thought that Travis etn was fascinating
Speaker 5: last week. If you get that version of Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 5: who great Week one, vanished a little bit, showed up
Speaker 5: again last week and as a real true number one
Speaker 5: wide receiver in my book, and I'm with you. The defense,
Speaker 5: which I thought was just going to give up a
Speaker 5: solid twenty five to thirty points every week, showed up
Speaker 5: stout and made tough, tough life very tough for the
Speaker 5: Bills early part of that game.
Speaker 2: I'm really interested to see. I think it is a
Speaker 2: good matchup. I think this is a good game. I
Speaker 2: think it's a good value add in the draft.
Speaker 6: I do wonder what we'll get from Jonathan Taylor this week.
Speaker 2: That was my question. I wonder.
Speaker 3: Obviously, they brought them along very slowly and we didn't
Speaker 3: see much of them, and then Zach Moss had another
Speaker 3: big game. But I would think this would be the
Speaker 3: game where it becomes at least a fifty to fifty split,
Speaker 3: if not, you know, depending on Taylor's feeling and running
Speaker 3: even more than that. And you know, I think, like
Speaker 3: we said that one of the best luxuries of any
Speaker 3: team in the sport that they lose Richardson for a
Speaker 3: period of weeks. He's going to be out, but Minshew
Speaker 3: will come in and I think they'll continue to be
Speaker 3: hanging every game, including this one. I think the Cults
Speaker 3: are going to be frisky throughout the year playing in
Speaker 3: that division with that schedule. Did they beat the Jags,
Speaker 3: I think they certainly can. I mean, the Jaguars are
Speaker 3: awesome when they were here for two weeks here in London,
Speaker 3: but are they consistent, Like, win this game and you
Speaker 3: start to build some more momentum. But I think it's
Speaker 3: a close game. I think I got Jags by three
Speaker 3: in this one.
Speaker 8: What's very little through a little thread the needle action
Speaker 8: where they don't cover, but they do win, they don't
Speaker 8: cover the.
Speaker 7: Four plus four points.
Speaker 8: I'm a little worried, and I don't like the reports
Speaker 8: about Richardson that it's could be four weeks, it could
Speaker 8: be eight weeks, it could be the season, depending on
Speaker 8: how the surgery goes. So it's just something that you're watching.
Speaker 8: You're thinking. I wonder if it depends on where they
Speaker 8: are in their record if he comes back. But that's
Speaker 8: that's for a future date.
Speaker 7: Minshew.
Speaker 3: Lead us to the promised Land. All right, let's take
Speaker 3: one more break and then we'll finish up the draft.
Speaker 3: All right, we are back. Let's finish up this draft.
Speaker 3: This is a good one. I got one a good
Speaker 3: value here Late Saints of Texans still there.
Speaker 2: Right, that's there's a nice pick.
Speaker 6: I like this, very good.
Speaker 8: Chris Meyers kind of chilled the draft value of this one,
Speaker 8: but yes.
Speaker 3: It was very sent the stock plummeting of this game,
Speaker 3: but it's a it's a good game. You know what's
Speaker 3: interesting if you if you took out that meltdown against
Speaker 3: the Packers in the fourth quarter, everybody'd be talking about
Speaker 3: the Saints defense this year, like and to the point
Speaker 3: you made about Baker earlier, like they have been for
Speaker 3: the most part, really good this season.
Speaker 2: And and they went up to New England.
Speaker 3: I know you're catching New England at a bad spot
Speaker 3: in their history here, but like to shut out.
Speaker 2: New England in New England.
Speaker 3: And now you get the Texans and I think we've
Speaker 3: been kind of on this on this train that we
Speaker 3: believe in this all defense, that this is a team
Speaker 3: again it's a South team, so they have a lot
Speaker 3: of favorable matchups throughout the year. You could see with
Speaker 3: Stroud continuing to play well, this team not just hanging
Speaker 3: in games but winning games. And this is I think
Speaker 3: a nice test for them because if Stroud takes care
Speaker 3: of this defense and it's you know, it's a good setup,
Speaker 3: it's in Houston, you're going to really his Rookie of
Speaker 3: the Year candidacy is going to grow even more because
Speaker 3: you're gonna be like, Okay, he's now giving us a
Speaker 3: sample size that's big enough to feel like this is
Speaker 3: just who he is and his development has been so quick.
Speaker 3: If you're a Texans fan, especially in light of what's
Speaker 3: going on what we just talked about in Carolina with
Speaker 3: a number one overall pick, you're over the moon right
Speaker 3: now because you're on track here.
Speaker 5: I really love like this the test against this defense.
Speaker 5: And I have a new assistant coach of the Year
Speaker 5: leader in the clubhouse. It's Bobby Slowick, who you know,
Speaker 5: he's never called plays before, but I just see like
Speaker 5: him working with Stroud in a way where it's like
Speaker 5: this Texas offense is well coached for the first time
Speaker 5: in a long while, and every week because if we
Speaker 5: see moments with Bryce Young, like you see a lot
Speaker 5: of moments with Stroud every drive, it's like the way
Speaker 5: he throws the ball and what he's doing and just
Speaker 5: his ability to process out of the gate this quickly.
Speaker 6: It's him.
Speaker 5: It's the matchup of his coach, it's the offense season,
Speaker 5: the way that they've kind of overcome a lot of
Speaker 5: offensive line injuries. Laramie Tunsel did not practice again on Wednesday.
Speaker 5: I don't love that this is a team that's functioning
Speaker 5: well on this side of the ball, and they're really
Speaker 5: fun to watch.
Speaker 8: I was disappointed by their performance on balance against the Texans, though,
Speaker 8: I mean against the Falcons last week. You know that
Speaker 8: was my game. They were kind of stuck in mud.
Speaker 8: They couldn't finish drives. And it's interesting because Ryan Nielsen
Speaker 8: comes from New Orleans that their coordinator to Atlanta basically
Speaker 8: runs the DNIS Allen defense and now you play the
Speaker 8: actual dnnis Allen defense, you're the Texans offense. So back
Speaker 8: to back weeks, what is Slowick and CJ. Stroud learned
Speaker 8: from that matchup against Atlanta, because I think you're paying
Speaker 8: a better version of it now in New Orleans with
Speaker 8: really good cornerbacks. I think Alante Taylor is you know,
Speaker 8: under the radar, is one of the best young cornerbacks
Speaker 8: in the league, and he has the physicality to kind
Speaker 8: of move around and play a Nico Collins and Marshawn
Speaker 8: Lattimore is playing at like an all pro level, and
Speaker 8: so they're sticky. Stroud I think played a good game
Speaker 8: last week, but they weren't explosive, and really I think
Speaker 8: Atlanta put it to them in that game, even though
Speaker 8: it was pretty close. So it's a time for the
Speaker 8: Texans defense to stand up and shut down and make
Speaker 8: this a defensive game because they were kind of steamrolled
Speaker 8: a little bit. It's the Saints, I think, are having
Speaker 8: a hard time, like getting everyone the ball when it
Speaker 8: came down to it last week, it was mostly Michael
Speaker 8: Thomas and Kamara and okay, but then you're just like,
Speaker 8: you want more Lave, you want more Shaheed, the tight
Speaker 8: the tight ends. You want the running game to be
Speaker 8: a little more consistent.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 8: I don't I'm not convinced by the Saints offense put
Speaker 8: it that way. This could be a very defensive game.
Speaker 3: If you're Derek Carr and he's still new there obviously,
Speaker 3: and he's been banged up. But Chris Olave is the guy,
Speaker 3: so he should be getting targeted more than anyone else
Speaker 3: in that offense because he makes things happen the I
Speaker 3: do love the matchup with the Saints defense against Stroud
Speaker 3: because their strength.
Speaker 2: Their defense. They're number one in the league.
Speaker 3: The Saints in plays over ten yards or attempts over
Speaker 3: ten yards by the opposing offense, they shut.
Speaker 2: Things down, and I think the thing about Stroud is.
Speaker 3: His So this is here's some NFL ranks He's third
Speaker 3: in the league in passing yards per game, fifth and
Speaker 3: yards per attempt. He's got seven touchdowns passed, wading near
Speaker 3: one hundred, and yet he still has this ongoing streak.
Speaker 3: It's now an NFL record. I don't know if that
Speaker 3: sits well with you, Greg, for the most past attempt
Speaker 3: to start a career.
Speaker 7: Actually a record.
Speaker 3: Without an I in t And if you were babying
Speaker 3: him and you were throwing a lot of checkdowns in
Speaker 3: a very conservative offense, I wouldn't be as impressed. I'd
Speaker 3: still be impressed. You're a rookie heading into week six
Speaker 3: without a pick. But the fact that he's near the
Speaker 3: top of the league in yards per attempt, it's really
Speaker 3: like that's a very telling stat like pairing those two together.
Speaker 3: So he's going to continue to be challeng here against
Speaker 3: the Saints. But like man like that is, you couldn't
Speaker 3: ask for a better start to an NFL career. There's
Speaker 3: a few guys I remember that have hit the hit
Speaker 3: the league just hit the ground running at this level.
Speaker 2: So it's it's a big storyline in the NFL right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're like a lot of doubts after they dropped
Speaker 5: it him I would ask you this, like which roster
Speaker 5: if you were to take over a team, which roster
Speaker 5: do you look better?
Speaker 8: If I need to make the playoffs this year, I
Speaker 8: was a Saints, but long term, obviously the Texans are not.
Speaker 5: Obviously definitely Texans are like definitely they are going to
Speaker 5: take something special.
Speaker 7: Get a home win.
Speaker 8: Here, you're at home, You're at a point and a
Speaker 8: half underdog here, Texans.
Speaker 7: I like the Texans in this case, get the win.
Speaker 3: I like the Texans too, But I hey, Damian Pierce,
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, but he is actually now under
Speaker 3: three yards are tenth.
Speaker 7: Which it's the team. I think he's running well.
Speaker 8: But we had the option on Tuesday to choose our
Speaker 8: worst picks from before the season, and my backup choice
Speaker 8: was dandy on the table for Damian Pierce as your
Speaker 8: fifth or sixth round fantasy pick that has not worked out.
Speaker 8: I'm not totally off it because he is getting the
Speaker 8: touches each week.
Speaker 3: Like, but it's they're averaging just eighty two yards per
Speaker 3: game on the ground. So if they can get the
Speaker 3: ground game figured out and pair that with Stroud, look out,
Speaker 3: all right, let's see let's see.
Speaker 2: Am I up again?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I hate when this happens, but I don't have a
Speaker 3: lot of options, so I.
Speaker 2: Will go and grab Patriots at Raiders.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? First of all, Raiders laying three
Speaker 3: points of wood here Nansen Romo.
Speaker 2: They put Nanson Romo in this game?
Speaker 6: What do we dol decision?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: So you send Nansen Romo to the desert? Greg, if
Speaker 3: you're a Patriots fan, like, where are you at with
Speaker 3: this team? In the sense that you know Belichick comes
Speaker 3: out and he gives the press conference this week where
Speaker 3: he's like, we're starting over, start over, and then any
Speaker 3: other question where you try to glean any type of
Speaker 3: insight into how they might change their game plan.
Speaker 2: We're starting over.
Speaker 3: So they're starting over, which is tough, tough thing to
Speaker 3: do in week six, and a lever to pull or
Speaker 3: a lead to watch the game that is that is
Speaker 3: something that you don't really want to flick that unless
Speaker 3: things are going terribly. Things are going terribly the Raiders.
Speaker 3: It was so fun. We talked about it on a
Speaker 3: Monday night. Max Crosby getting that that spotlight and absolutely
Speaker 3: destroying his opponent.
Speaker 2: Will he do it again in this game?
Speaker 8: Probably because he's playing opposite a man named Verderian Lowe
Speaker 8: who they got to replace. They've got to have some accountability.
Speaker 8: I know they don't have anyone, but it was it
Speaker 8: was like the six thring tackle on the Vikings. And
Speaker 8: he's been one of the worst players in the league.
Speaker 8: And that's who Crosby will be against. Mac is is
Speaker 8: the quarterback. But now this is yet another like you're
Speaker 8: just another team. Now you're getting the reports of like,
Speaker 8: but this is an important week for mac so they're
Speaker 8: two weeks right, But they're also making it clear that
Speaker 8: like this is sort of last chance saloon. If he struggles,
Speaker 8: I think, you know, we might get Zappi as a starter,
Speaker 8: or we might get Will Greer as a starter.
Speaker 7: I don't know. We've talked so much about that.
Speaker 8: I want to just say something different about the Patriots,
Speaker 8: which is just that I'd like to see more about
Speaker 8: the thing the players I was most excited about coming
Speaker 8: into the year on the Patriots, which were in the
Speaker 8: front Kean White, their rookie pass rusher, Christian Barmore, a
Speaker 8: guy that I really thought was going to be a
Speaker 8: future All Pro when he was a rookie. Not seeing
Speaker 8: a ton Josh Ucha in a free agent year, not
Speaker 8: even on the field that much. You're playing this Raiders
Speaker 8: offensive line which is stunk, and Jimmy g who I
Speaker 8: think looks a little lost, Like go in a ballgame.
Speaker 8: Young Patriots pass rushers and Bill Belichick defense which hasn't
Speaker 8: been bad. They've still been a top ten to twelve
Speaker 8: DVOA type of defense. Like go in a ballgame. Defensively
Speaker 8: against this lousy Raiders.
Speaker 2: I mean, what.
Speaker 5: Neutralizes a promising aspect to a young defense, though, is
Speaker 5: they've got the worst the worst passing offense in the league.
Speaker 5: They're the worst running team in the league. I think
Speaker 5: they're the worst team in the league. I don't think
Speaker 5: they're well coached. Is that I mean, is that crazy
Speaker 5: to say, taking.
Speaker 8: Blown neutral field, I'm going that minus two over the Panthers,
Speaker 8: But I think you might be right.
Speaker 6: That's fair.
Speaker 2: But like I think Bill could could cook up justin field.
Speaker 7: I think he might win this game, but he might not.
Speaker 5: I mean minus three is fair for there is not
Speaker 5: shown himself to be an asset in the middle of this.
Speaker 5: First of all, when you say you know we're going
Speaker 5: to start over, We're going to make changes that you
Speaker 5: don't make any changes because they don't have any options,
Speaker 5: like what else they're the roster has depth issues all
Speaker 5: over the place to.
Speaker 8: Mario Douglas and Juju A both have concussions. Sounds like
Speaker 8: they're going to miss this game.
Speaker 5: Right, it's not it's not a good and I don't
Speaker 5: care that it's Josh McDaniels for spill Belichick by the way,
Speaker 5: I mean, the Raiders do not impress me that much
Speaker 5: more either. But it's like this idea of it's a
Speaker 5: sort of like luminary versus luminary, Like.
Speaker 8: You know, we're at the dark part of the season
Speaker 8: where I saw like an article looking for original take,
Speaker 8: and I don't fault the writer. It's like Josh McDaniels,
Speaker 8: he's the real guy who hasn't done anything without Tom Brady.
Speaker 7: He's like, that's a fair point. That is a fair point.
Speaker 2: Well, if we really want to go down that road,
Speaker 2: neither is Bill.
Speaker 5: But right, we don't need to though, No, but well
Speaker 5: we did in our flash, but we did.
Speaker 8: But Bill has Bill won a Super Bowl with Tom
Speaker 8: Brady as the twenty seventh quarterback in the league and
Speaker 8: one of the most dominant dominant defenses. Like that wasn't
Speaker 8: actually Tom Brady even two thousand and three wasn't actually.
Speaker 2: But it was.
Speaker 3: I mean it wasn't like the greatest level of Tom Brady,
Speaker 3: but it was. I mean, they scored the player, they
Speaker 3: scored ten points in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: But still Tom Brady the person and Tom Brady pre
Speaker 5: snap and prepara Brady goes.
Speaker 8: I think, man, I've been wrong about the Patriots back
Speaker 8: to back weeks.
Speaker 7: I will take them again.
Speaker 3: I agree that Jimmy Jimmy G looked just lost on
Speaker 3: Monday night, and I know I wonder if Aidan O'Connell
Speaker 3: played better in his spots start, whether uh he might
Speaker 3: have had a chance to stay in the lineup. I think,
Speaker 3: if something goes poorly here and I don't, maybe it's
Speaker 3: still just like you know, muscle reflex or whatever. Just
Speaker 3: this idea that are the Patriots really just going to
Speaker 3: be this bad all the time?
Speaker 2: Or they are they going to be able to recover?
Speaker 3: The Raiders are not a horrific matchup for them here,
Speaker 3: although remember what last time they played each other.
Speaker 2: It was the Chandler Jones freak play games game.
Speaker 3: Yes, so if if Jimmy G doesn't and listen, who
Speaker 3: knows Jimmy gen better than Bill. I would not be
Speaker 3: stunned if the Raiders often struggles in this game and
Speaker 3: you start to hear some of those things Percley around
Speaker 3: the quarterback position there last game, GREGI, it defaults to you.
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson will not be playing for the Vikings, which
Speaker 3: removes much of the intrigue to this team. He is
Speaker 3: on ir with that hamstring, and now they're going.
Speaker 2: To Soldier Field.
Speaker 3: A little juice there because we saw what happened Thursday
Speaker 3: Night football. Of course, Justin Field's four touchdowns, DJ Moore
Speaker 3: goes off and that's you know, back to back weeks.
Speaker 2: Where there's some promising signs for their attack.
Speaker 7: Yeah, two one in four teams.
Speaker 8: The Vikings are favored by two and a half in
Speaker 8: this game, even without Justin Jefferson. Both of the like,
Speaker 8: I think the Vikings are still thinking we can maybe
Speaker 8: get something going even without Jefferson and scrap into fighting
Speaker 8: for a seven seed. We've been in every game like
Speaker 8: they haven't looked like the worst teeming and the Bears
Speaker 8: are just looking for anything positive. They're trying to save
Speaker 8: their jobs essentially, and looking at this matchup like, look,
Speaker 8: can we get Justin Fields playing really well for three
Speaker 8: straight weeks, because I think you played really well for
Speaker 8: two straight weeks. I know he had one or two
Speaker 8: bad plays at the very end of the loss of
Speaker 8: the Broncos, but ultimately he's he's looked much more comfortable
Speaker 8: making quick decisions. And if nothing else, the Vikings actually
Speaker 8: have had a pretty solid secondary. They've improved in terms
Speaker 8: of their defense Byron Murphy and really that whole group
Speaker 8: of safeties that got like four safeties Mattellas and buying
Speaker 8: them and Smith like, they're not as easy to throw against.
Speaker 8: So that's it's a watchable game. Justin Fields to me is,
Speaker 8: if nothing else, a watchable quarterback if you're gonna be
Speaker 8: a bad team like the Bears, being watchable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the last two weeks are promising. They've
Speaker 5: also put up three hundred and fifty yards on the ground.
Speaker 5: You're seeing sort of elements that made them spicy a
Speaker 5: year ago. They also played Denver's defense and Washington's defense,
Speaker 5: which we've talked about, so it takes a little bit
Speaker 5: of the shine off.
Speaker 6: If I'm Minnesota, I just I kind of I just
Speaker 6: have one question.
Speaker 5: I know we talked about this a little bit like,
Speaker 5: why are we talking about trading Kirk Cousins, Like it's
Speaker 5: he's out there is like a hovering top ten quarterback.
Speaker 5: I mean, stats wise, he's been great, and like you're
Speaker 5: gonna move him.
Speaker 2: But for what those other cancel idea here is that
Speaker 2: they chose not.
Speaker 3: To redo his deal in the offseason, which points to
Speaker 3: the possibility that leadership wants to kind of start over
Speaker 3: at that position. I just if that is internally what
Speaker 3: their big picture plan is, then here's an opportunity to
Speaker 3: maybe in a lost season in terms of competition to
Speaker 3: move him.
Speaker 8: It's only word that if you get like those two firsts,
Speaker 8: which in a year where there would be logical teams
Speaker 8: to go get him could happen, or first and a third,
Speaker 8: But I don't know if those teams exist we hit
Speaker 8: that no.
Speaker 5: I just yeah, I just think it's like you like,
Speaker 5: that's a nice idea to move on and rebuild, and
Speaker 5: it's not like it's my favorite quarterback on the planet,
Speaker 5: But like we're watching teams that took the wrong court
Speaker 5: for the place.
Speaker 7: It'd be a tank.
Speaker 8: It'd be a way to try to get Caleb Williams
Speaker 8: or Drake May because they are last in the league
Speaker 8: right now in terms of rushing attempts, they're first in
Speaker 8: passing attempt They're the most pass wacky team in the league.
Speaker 8: You throw in uh, they're back up into that.
Speaker 7: Forget about it.
Speaker 3: If you're all right, this is just Galaxy braining this.
Speaker 3: But if you do trade Kirk Cousins and what if
Speaker 3: you trade Justin Jefferson, then you have the entire well
Speaker 3: you have well if you really want to tank and
Speaker 3: start over, but you're you're gonna have three maybe four
Speaker 3: first round picks and then the way you go.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they should do that. I mean they
Speaker 2: got to pay them Greg. If they don't, they got
Speaker 2: to make them the most.
Speaker 8: There's no where he should be available in any because.
Speaker 3: He's just organizationally, their philosophy is not, you know, to
Speaker 3: pay a wide receiver more than any wide receivers have
Speaker 3: been paid before.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I would do it.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you could make the they trade the
Speaker 3: stuff on Diggs and drafted just Justin Jefferson, Like, would
Speaker 3: they potentially do it again if it secured.
Speaker 5: You without any doubt, like the number one overall pick,
Speaker 5: and you'll get that quarterback.
Speaker 8: That's one I was stumbling to try to remember who
Speaker 8: is there? Back them now because they got they got
Speaker 8: rid of it and Jaron Hall, their fifth round rookie
Speaker 8: who looked extremely raw and not ready for anything in
Speaker 8: the preseason.
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison is going to get a nice spotlight here
Speaker 3: with Jefferson out of line because one thing, because I like,
Speaker 3: I've always enjoyed watching Cousins play.
Speaker 2: I think he's just a good thrower of the football
Speaker 2: and all that. He's going to.
Speaker 3: Make Jordan Addison productive if he's going to be Osborn.
Speaker 7: Those guys are fantasy fantasy plays.
Speaker 3: Osbourne had a season high nine targets last year. So
Speaker 3: those guys are going to eat, as is DJ Hockinson.
Speaker 3: So if you went and you got Howkinson in your draft,
Speaker 3: justin Jefferson exiting the picture is good news there for
Speaker 3: you as well.
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