1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: this Thursday edition, you talk about an awful look for 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: the NFLPA. We've got the latest details on that. We're 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: also going to talk about one player in the NFL 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: who sees playoffs as success. The problem is it's been 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: a long ass time. The Great Albert Brear is going 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: to stop by and he's talking about nine to ninety 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: nine cap guns on vacation. We're also going to get 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: the very latest from the college football nil money spending, 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders' opinions on a salary cap situation. We've got 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: another edition of In case you missed it. We're also 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: going to tell you why the NFC is way more 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: confusing in the AFC, and we've got another edition of 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Lee's Leftovers. It's all yours. Coming up next here, Two 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: Pros and a cup of Joe on a Thursday, Fox 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: Black and Track. 20 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 4: I can unheer it. 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 3: Two pros and a cup of Joe. 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you Hair. 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: You can listen to us as always on the iHeartRadio app. 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: the country and wherever you are making us a part 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: of your Thursday morning, we appreciate you doing so we 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: are going to take you all the way up until 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: nine am Eastern time six o'clock Pacific. 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: What up sticks? 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: Good morning? Oh man, good morning? 31 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: You got that gas going early? 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 5: I got up, bro, Like, yesterday was like I couldn't 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 5: get my uh. 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: What you got in the cab? 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, nits yeah, bruh. I was feeling a certain 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 5: type of way yesterday. I was like, man, I kind 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: of feel a little off, and I knew it was 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 5: because I didn't get my sleep pattern change right like 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 5: you got we got used to getting some sleep. Yesterday 40 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 5: when I got up for the show, I just felt 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 5: like really really like in a fog man and I 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 5: couldn't really get out of it. I was like, man, 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 5: I got to approach today a little differently. So so yeah, man, 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: I approached it so much so where I had so 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 5: much energy. It was like I'm just on the move. 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm like bouncing around right now. And Celsius 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: will have you on some like like let's go cause 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 5: you got I'm on some like let's go right now, 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 5: like let's that fing go? 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: Man? 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: Hey, what do they call it that? Well, then I 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: didn't want to go down there. Yeah, I don't even 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: want to do it. Not ready for that. That joke 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: will be told later. But nonetheless, we are off and 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: running here on this Thursday morning too. 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: We've got a fun. 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Little follow up on a story that we talked about 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: last week here. So, the NFLPA filed an appeal of 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: a ruling by Arbitrator Christopher Droni that there was sufficient 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: evidence of collusion by owners in contract negotiations with quarterbacks 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: following the fully guaranteed contract given to Deshaun Watson. Well, 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: of course they should appeal that, especially if there was 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: evidence that would indicate that there was some sort of 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: collusion going on, or that Roger Goodell had instructed or 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: at least encouraged owners to try and ensure that there 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be fully guaranteed contracts handed out to quarterbacks following 67 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson contract. Of course they should do that, 68 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and there did seem to be some evidence when the 69 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: findings came out. The problem is this should have been 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: appealed in January when the ruling was made, and the 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: only reason the NFLPA is appealing it now is to 72 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: save face because Pavlo Torre got ahold of the transcripts. 73 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: That's it. In fact, the NFL and senior leaders of 74 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the NFL Players Association, and this was found and released 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: on ESPN yesterday. They found that the NFL Players Association 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: struck what they're calling an unusual confidentiality agreement that hid 77 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: the details of an arbitration decision from players, including a 78 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: finding that league executives had urged team owners to reduce 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: guaranteed player compensation, multiple sources told ESPN. In fact, also 80 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: from ESPN, some players told them that they were surprised 81 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: by details and the rulings and that they didn't understand 82 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: why the union hadn't shared that ruling with them. So 83 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you've got the NFLPA, upon seeing the transcripts from all this, 84 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: and players with the NFLPA and players in the league 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: looking at it, going wait, so you guys knew all this, 86 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: We had evidence of all this. This should have been 87 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: appealed in in January, and you struck in agreement with 88 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: the other side to keep it confidential. From us, and 89 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: you've got players, You've got people asking questions, you've got 90 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: attorneys like Peter Ginsberg, who's represented many NFL players for decades. 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: He said he was stunned to hear about the confidentiality agreement. 92 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: He said, quote as the head of the union, and 93 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: this is you know, all of the and now you've 94 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: got you've got you know, the current NFLPA executive director, 95 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: Lloyd Howell going after the former and Demorris Smith and 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: blaming him for sort of how this whole thing fell apart. 97 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, oh yeah, and you got Peter Ginsburg, the attorney, saying, 98 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: as the head of the union, Lloyd has an obligation 99 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: to protect his best interest of the players. He said, 100 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: by agreeing to a confidentiality agreement, the union purposefully blocked 101 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: the players from receiving crucial information about the operations of 102 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: the NFL. 103 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: So it's almost like they're all in it together. 104 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 5: But go ahead, use the word how can you You're 105 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 5: going to appeal a scenario where if what you're accusing 106 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: the League of doing with this knowledge that you just 107 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 5: spoke on, wouldn't you call that colluding. It's it's like, 108 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want it. It's not intended to 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 5: be a mic drop moment. But if I'm the union, 110 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 5: if if if the people that are representing you are 111 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: on some confidentiality type of of of deal where they're 112 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: not disclosing these pieces of information that are pertinent and 113 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 5: relevant to the people that you're representing, and you're doing 114 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 5: that with the other side, that would be collusion. 115 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: And the fact and the fact that they're getting aggressive 116 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: with it now and appealing this when they should have 117 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: done it again. This ruling came out in January. You 118 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: had months. You had months to try and figure this, 119 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: figure this thing out. The only reason now they're having 120 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: to get on the offensive when it comes to this 121 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: is because the information got out. If they if Pablo 122 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Torre hadn't gotten a hold of the transcripts from what 123 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: had happened, none of this probably takes place. It's the 124 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: NFLPA again trying to save face because it's an awful look. 125 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: Just that's called espionage. 126 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 5: I mean, there's all kinds of different words that that 127 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 5: are used for this. It's big it's big business. There's 128 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: big business here. The owners stand to lose some of 129 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: their bottom line, a major part of their bottom line. 130 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 5: Some you know, these franchises are facing being put in 131 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: different positions in terms of you know, we've heard Q say, listen, 132 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: you do a fully guaranteed contract, that contract apparently has 133 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: to be placed in escrow. You got to have the 134 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 5: money for that contract up front and ready to go. 135 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 5: I would assume how many times can you do a 136 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: fully guaranteed contract. If that's the case and you're an 137 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 5: NFL franch how many times do you want to do 138 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: that where you have to commit what if we're talking 139 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: about these types of deals, they're only going to be 140 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: with the elite players, So you're talking about hundreds of 141 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: millions of dollars that you're having to commit to this 142 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: one player, and you have to have that money together. 143 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: It has to be there. So I think it. 144 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: Causes some complications for the structure that exists for the NFL. 145 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: And for what it's worth, you have to be able. 146 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 5: I know, the whole anti trust and you know, no 147 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 5: monopolies on business and stuff like that, so they can 148 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 5: only do things a certain type of way before it 149 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 5: goes down the lane of being colluding and stuff like that, 150 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 5: and you can't do it. But they're a business. They're businesses. 151 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 5: They're privately owned businesses, and if you're going to have 152 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: conversations about how you can improve your bottom line, wouldn't 153 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 5: you say that applies to one hundred percent of the 154 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: businesses that are out there. You're going to try to 155 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 5: figure out what the proper business approach is. You're going 156 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 5: to see how you can manage your heart costs and 157 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 5: your expenses. You're always trying to impact your bottom line. 158 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 5: That is something that you learn if you're doing business 159 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 5: and you're learning business or you live in the real world. 160 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 5: If you're going to get a new contract at your job, 161 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 5: you have to understand where do you fit within that 162 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 5: company's structure and how does that impact their bottom line. 163 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: If I'm a player, I'm pissed. I'm looking at this 164 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: going hold on, so. 165 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: You're being let down. You're not. 166 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: You are being You are the commodity that makes all 167 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 5: of this work, of course, but you're not the most 168 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 5: important obviously, you're not the most important driving force in 169 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 5: terms of the thought process or the approach of how 170 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: hard should you push for certain things to get you know, get. 171 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: Approved, Like, shouldn't you be on our side? That would 172 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: be my thought as a player, I'd be like, hold 173 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: on a second, you like you know that this is 174 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: something we should have appealed, and you're conspiring with owners 175 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: to try and keep it from us. I'm pissed. I'm 176 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: looking around, like and as a former player, didn't it 177 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: make you question everything, like when you were in the league, 178 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: Like wait a second, So what was going on back then? 179 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: If I'm being honest, I never trusted I never trusted 180 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: the PA. I never trusted them. I never really worked 181 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 5: with them, and I just I pretty much. I made 182 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 5: sure that I kept my own affairs like close to 183 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: the vest as much as I could, Like if you 184 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 5: if you were calling my rookie year, I didn't sign 185 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 5: the group license in agreement. A lot of people don't 186 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 5: realize that, but I didn't sign Like the first the 187 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: first year that I was in the league, they didn't 188 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 5: have my they didn't have me on the video game, 189 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 5: they didn't have me on mat and I was just 190 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 5: player fifty six, didn't have Arrington and Trader cards and jerseys. 191 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 5: They were selling my jersey. They were selling Trader cards. 192 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 5: And I sued and I won because they weren't. My 193 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 5: whole thing was And this is pre nil, but I 194 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: understood in il and my whole thing was, if you're 195 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 5: gonna use my name, image and likeness and you're grouping 196 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 5: me with all of these other people, I want to 197 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: know that my interest is being represented properly, for one, 198 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 5: and for two, I want to know what you're. 199 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: Doing with my brand. 200 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 5: You could be I don't know what your markets are 201 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 5: or the pockets of where my relevancy lied as a 202 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 5: as a player outside of Pennsylvania at the time, and 203 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: where I got drafted to in Washington. But you're gonna 204 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 5: give me a residual check. When I get that residual check, 205 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 5: I don't really know what you've done other than jersey 206 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 5: sales or you know, card sales, whatever it may be. 207 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 5: I don't know how you're using my name, image and likeness, 208 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: how often you're using it, where you're using it. I 209 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 5: don't know all of these things, and you're not explaining 210 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 5: these things clearly. So I'm not going to sign this contract. 211 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: I'm not going to sign my rights away to you guys. 212 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 5: And that's the NFLPA. And they still did it, like 213 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: they still released my jersey, they were still selling cars, 214 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 5: So that's when I knew, like it's really about at 215 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: the end, of the day. The NFLPA is a business. Right, 216 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 5: let's just call it what it is. The NFLPA is 217 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: a business. They have their bottom line and you know 218 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 5: what they have to do. They have to figure out 219 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: what the structure of their business model is in order 220 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 5: to be able to impact their bottom line. They have employees, 221 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: They got to maintain a payroll. They have to run 222 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 5: their business like a business. And the worst thing you 223 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: could do is bite the hand that feeds you. At 224 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 5: the end of the day, they have one business and 225 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 5: one business alone, and that business is to be the 226 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 5: cartilage in between the NFL and the owners and the players. 227 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: And I always wonder like why, Like, and you do 228 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: have a lot of former players that are part of 229 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 5: the PA, you do, but I've always wondered why is 230 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 5: it Like you get a random person like the Morris Smith, Like, 231 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 5: what is his representation to the football community? 232 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 233 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: Like, if you don't understand the football community, how can 234 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 5: you actually how can you actually represent it in a 235 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 5: way where you understand how we feel or you understand 236 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 5: the approaches of of what what we're a part of. 237 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 5: You if you're not relating to us, how can you 238 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 5: represent us? In the best manner. 239 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: So we were making the point last week when Demorris 240 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: Smith's book came out and he's got all these excerpts 241 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: about it, and one of them, you know, he talked 242 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers and basically blasted Aaron Rodgers and just said, 243 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: you know, I got a text from Rogers and I 244 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: something along the lines of and I'm paraphrasing, you know, 245 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: can I walk into traffic instead? And my thought on 246 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: that was, Okay, this is one of the stars of 247 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: the league. You represent the stars of the league, so 248 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: to speak, or so we thought, and he wants to 249 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: talk to you, and your response is I'd rather walk 250 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: into traffic. That's not how that should work. JC Tretder, 251 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, and this was one of the details that 252 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: came out when these transcripts were made public by Pablo Tory. 253 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: J C. 254 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Tretder, when the discussion was about Russell Wilson and his 255 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: negotiations and trying to get a guaranteed deal with the Broncos, 256 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: basically ripped into Russell Wilson. You're supposed to represent these guys. 257 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to be burying them behind their back 258 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: and complaining about them behind their back. It's supposed to 259 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: be a union in to where you're all in this together, 260 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: and then you see this stuff come out and it's 261 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: it reminds me almost like of politics. And I can 262 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: remember my brother told me this when I was younger, 263 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: and I always remember this, and I kind of asked 264 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: him because I didn't really understand the you know, Democrats, Republicans, 265 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: like I didn't understand any of that stuff. But he 266 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: basically just said to me, there are no Democrats or Republicans. 267 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: It's the same a hole in a different suit. And 268 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: I still remember that a different color. And I still 269 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: remember that to this day. And when I see stuff 270 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: like this, I go, also, so you're all in this together, 271 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: like this is not. There is no NFLPA and owners 272 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: there is. This would make me question everything that. 273 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: I heard from the NFL. You should and you should. 274 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 5: You know, you have your team representatives, they go, they 275 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: sit in the meetings. You want to have a problem 276 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 5: with somebody who's enlightened enough to know that it is 277 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 5: just a bunch of bs, like we're here and it's 278 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 5: it's like, literally it's all for show. Let's get all 279 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: of the reps from all the teams. Let's take a 280 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: picture like, oh, let's post it NFLPA. We care, Oh 281 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 5: turf wars da da da, this that and the other. Okay, 282 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 5: it's like all for show to me, it's always been 283 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 5: all for show. And so when you get down to 284 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 5: a moment where Demor Smith actually in a moment of 285 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 5: thinking that he's being candid and exposing personality like Aaron Rodgers, 286 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers is really exposing yes, like do you understand 287 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 5: when you wrote that and people are going to read 288 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 5: that that they're going to be like, well, why would 289 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers feel that way? Aaron Rodgers is a lot 290 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 5: of things. One thing you're not going to mistake him 291 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 5: for is being an idiot. He's not dumb. He's not 292 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 5: a dumb dude. So if he gets up in emphatic 293 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 5: fashion or whatever it is that he said, takes a 294 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 5: deep breath. 295 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: And leaves exits the meeting, you're. 296 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 5: Basically exposing the fact that this man is there and 297 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 5: he's sitting there listening to what you are saying and 298 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 5: what you are talking about. And it's a big ass 299 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 5: waste of time. It's all for show. Log the hours, 300 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 5: log the minutes so that you can add it to 301 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 5: the business plan. Here's what we did. Here's the summary. 302 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 5: We hit all the line items. We could say, we look, 303 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 5: we can say, we talked to you guys about it, 304 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 5: We discussed it, checking off the boxes you're going to 305 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 5: do in this scenario. I've always felt this has always 306 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 5: been my person and I hate to do it because 307 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: there are some really really fine dudes, and I always 308 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 5: mention their names, you know, from Nolan Harrison to Andre 309 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 5: Collins to you know. 310 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: Carl Carl. 311 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 5: Why do I always blank on Carl's name anyway Lewis, 312 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 5: It's not Carl Lewis. Yeah, but anyway, there's always going 313 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 5: to be some really really good people. I remember I 314 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 5: used to hit up Georgia Top he worked for the PA. 315 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's still with him or not, 316 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: but I would hit certain people up that worked for 317 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 5: the NFLPA, and I always felt like I was talking 318 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 5: to somebody who went through a sales course. And the 319 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 5: first thing you realize when you're talking to somebody who's 320 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: in sales and has been trained and has a history 321 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 5: in sale, is what's the first thing they're going to do? 322 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 5: Manage your expectation. The best people in sales can manage 323 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 5: an expectation. So now you've immediately I bring something your way, issue, 324 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 5: dotad topic, can we do this, whatever it may be, 325 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 5: manage the expectation. Then once you manage the expectation, you 326 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 5: create an underpromise type of deal so that you can 327 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 5: over deliver on the other side of it. And that's 328 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: what the NFLPA has done to me for as long 329 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 5: as I can remember. Like Doug Allen, he's a penn 330 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 5: stator like great respect in some regards, but I just 331 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 5: always felt like, even back to then when it was 332 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 5: back to when Doug Allen was in there, it's always 333 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 5: going to be what moves the agenda of their business 334 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 5: model and until there's some way to figure that out. 335 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 5: And that's why I feel like the college aspect of 336 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: everything that's going on, it's some real there's some real 337 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 5: hurdles to clear, there's some real barriers to get around 338 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 5: in terms of finding a healthy space for how business 339 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 5: is going to be done at the college level with 340 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: these players. 341 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: Now that money's. 342 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 5: Involved, because you see under the surface, very surface, it 343 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 5: goes way deeper with this glacier of conversation that we're having, 344 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: but just immediately under the surface when you see and 345 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 5: hear things like this that we're discussing right now, it 346 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 5: ultimately exposes the unseen, like we know the known, Like Okay, 347 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 5: here's a contract. This is how much they're getting. The 348 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 5: salary cap is here. This is where it's moving to. 349 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 5: These are the players that are making the money. Here's 350 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: how much you get if you get tagged da da 351 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 5: da that and the other. You see all of those things. 352 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 5: But when you start to get into conversations like this 353 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: where it's like, wait, you're taking us out of of 354 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 5: the parameters of what our structure represents. Fully guaranteed contracts 355 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 5: do not fit our model, So get that BS up 356 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 5: out of here. 357 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: Don't bring that s our way. 358 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 5: Oh then one owner panics and and does it, And 359 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 5: now everybody's trying to figure out what are we going 360 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 5: to do from here? 361 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: What do we do? 362 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: And the Players Association is keeping secrets from its players. 363 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 5: There you go, so, how are you gonna how are 364 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: you going to really get to a real solution? How 365 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 5: are you really going to get to a real solution 366 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 5: to what's going on? You have all these bright minds, 367 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: like we don't have Q on Q would be able 368 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 5: to give us like a real, you know, educated, like 369 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 5: from the legal standpoint it and all this stuff and 370 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 5: blase blah. You have bright minds that think with that 371 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 5: side of their brain and use just the concrete evidence. 372 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 5: And then you have other guys that use their experiences 373 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: and how they feel about people or the things that 374 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 5: they collected information wise, and that's it's a melting pot 375 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 5: of representatives of the players that are a part of 376 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 5: these meetings and trying to understand what's going on. And 377 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 5: for the life of me, for all the bright minds 378 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 5: that I've seen be a part of the PA. If 379 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 5: you buy into what the PA preaches and you believe 380 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 5: in it, you end up working for them. If you don't, 381 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: you just end up being a part of it, scratching 382 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: your head the whole time, trying to figure out why 383 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 5: the hell do we have an NFLPA if this is 384 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 5: all we're going to get from it? 385 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: And if you question that, the PA executive director tells 386 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: in a book later that he'd rather walk into traffic 387 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: than talk to you. How about that? 388 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 5: It's okay, all right, because because you called him out 389 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: by getting up and leaving the meeting, because you didn't 390 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 5: feel like anything got accomplished, like why why is that? 391 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: That's crazy? 392 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 393 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you. 394 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: So we are going to have the usuals coming up 395 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: later on, We've got another edition of In case you 396 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: missed it. We're also going to hand out an award 397 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: an hour two of the program, Lee's Leftovers to close 398 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: up shop, and the great Albert Brear is gonna stop by. 399 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: All of it is yours here as we take you 400 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: all the way up until nine am Eastern time, six 401 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: o'clock Pacific. But somebody in the NFL is going to 402 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: try and do something for the first time in a 403 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: long time. Find out what it is that's next. 404 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 405 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 406 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 407 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 6: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 408 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: Hey what's up everybody? 409 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 5: It's me three time Pro BOWLA LeVar Arrington, and I 410 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called Up 411 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 5: on Game? 412 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 4: What is up on Game? 413 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 5: You ass along with my fellow pro Bowler, TJ. Hutschman, Zada, 414 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 5: and Super Bowl champion. 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Be careful 425 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: when you're out there because you're just not quite certain 426 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: who you're messing with, Okay, so just be careful, all right. 427 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: This is a nice lesson to be learned and a 428 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: lesson to be taught. As we get into that for 429 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: you again in another edition of In case you missed it, 430 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: coming up here a little over fifteen minutes from now. 431 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Right now, though, before we get into this story in 432 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: the National Football League about somebody trying to do something 433 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, it is 434 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: time for the tire rack play of the day. 435 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: The Yates brings home the pitch and Colonel to the 436 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: left side in the left field for a basin, Freelick 437 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: Truck's Home and Jackson Trio has walked off the Dodgers 438 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: Here this afternoon in Milwaukee. 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Not ideal, but you know, hey, 449 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: long way to go. They'll be a playoff team, no 450 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Oh, they have some skit space, right, 451 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: they have some They have a little bit of room, 452 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: but I mean they'll be a playoff team. The Atlanta Falcons, 453 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: on the other end, haven't been a playoff team for 454 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: a long ass time. And if you ask Michael Pennix, 455 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: and he was having a conversation with former Falcons great 456 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Michael Vick. 457 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: His whole goal. 458 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: When it comes to a successful season is to do 459 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: something they haven't done in a long ass time. 460 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 6: That's a successful season for the Atlanta Falcons. 461 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 4: Of Michael Pennon's the. 462 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: Postseason, Oh guy in the post seeing like the dirty 463 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: bird nests and like all the little highlights and fans. 464 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: It's like, man, like they get rocking whenever we win it. 465 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: So like I definitely want to get back to that, 466 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 5: you know, win a football game so he can have. 467 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: A city time. So twenty seventeen is the last time 468 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons have made the playoffs, last time they 469 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: had a winning record, if you're keeping score, that was 470 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: just after a year after they had that meltdown in 471 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So it's been a long time since Atlanta. 472 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 5: Imagine what the trajectory of that team would have been 473 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 5: if they didn't have that melt down. That would have 474 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 5: been one of the more epic Super Bowls just because 475 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 5: of who they would have won against. I mean, instead, 476 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 5: it made the legend so much bigger for Tom. 477 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: Brady and and no doubt Matt Ryan would have been 478 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer had they won that MVP Super Bowl. 479 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 5: It's just so crazy to think what something could be, 480 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 5: what it could represent, because you go, one franchise goes 481 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: in one direction, the other franchise goes continues in a 482 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 5: different direction. Players, careers, you know, are looked at differently. 483 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 5: It's just it's a lot. There's a lot there to 484 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: that one because they I mean, it was as in 485 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: the bag as you could possibly get. I mean you're 486 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 5: talking about they bagged the groceries, grabbed the groceries, were 487 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: walking out of the store before the attendant said hey, 488 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 5: oh oh wait, wait wait you didn't pay for that? 489 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 4: Okay, come on back. You thought you had it all miserable. 490 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: It was in the bag. You was, you was almost 491 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 4: to your car cruise into a. 492 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, and then Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and 493 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 5: company called you back in and said you forgot to 494 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 5: pay your tab. 495 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: I remember, I remember being on the air right after 496 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: that doing the postgame show, and I didn't know how 497 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: to open the show other than what the hell just happened? 498 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: Right? 499 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: Did the Falcons blow that game? 500 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: It's just the whole well, and then you know this 501 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: is Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator in Atlanta, you 502 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: know dan Quinn coordinator. 503 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: Well, he was the head coach, head coach. 504 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, knows what we're talking about when it comes 505 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: to dan Quinn following that. But yeah, it's it's been 506 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: a long ass time since the Falcons have gotten there. 507 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: And they're one of those teams we talked to, you know, 508 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore of teams with playoff droughts. Atlanta is 509 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: one of those teams that it's been a long time 510 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: since they've been there. What makes it probably even worse 511 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: is the fact that, Bro, it's not like they're in 512 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: a division that's a gauntlet. 513 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 4: I mean Tampa and then as everybody else. 514 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've fallen victim to this where I've thought, 515 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, Atlanta was going to be a team to 516 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: potentially win that division in years past. They haven't. I've 517 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: also thought New Orleans when Derek Carr got there, was 518 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: going to be a team that could be a threat 519 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: maybe in the NFC. They weren't. Carolina's blown through two 520 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: three coaches or more during that time. This just goes 521 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: to show you why there's probably frustration from the fan 522 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: base's standpoint, and just overall, if you look at that, man, 523 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: this is a division we could dominate here, and instead 524 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: we've just been kind of staying afloat a couple of 525 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: having a nine seasons. Last year was eight and nine. 526 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: Just not quite terrible, but still not good enough to 527 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: be a factor, especially in a very winnable division. 528 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it's good that that Michael Penix is is 529 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: feeling that way. It's interesting. He's a Michael. He did 530 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 5: the interview with a Michael the goat. Michael of the 531 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 5: Falcons is a lefty. Pennix is a lefty. 532 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: You know what? Else what they're both black? Where you're 533 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: going for? 534 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 5: I don't understand are I don't understand why one is 535 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 5: way more mobile than the other. 536 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: So that well, he should be able to run like 537 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: the other Mike too. Huh. Come on, man, he don't 538 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: run like Mike vic I tell you that. Uh fw, people, 539 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: you people, you tripping out. 540 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 5: I think there should be high expectations and Atlanta for 541 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 5: the simple fact that Michael Pennix didn't play. He didn't 542 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 5: play out a level where there would be cause for 543 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: concern coming into this season. In fact, we've had multiple 544 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 5: conversations about Kirk Cousins and how he's the backup. They 545 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 5: could have easily been like, all right, you know, we 546 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 5: put Mike in. This was a good experiment, but he's 547 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: not ready yet. And for this season, this upcoming season, 548 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 5: where a year removed from Kirk Cousins recovering from that injury, 549 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 5: he got a year under his belt. Maybe didn't finish 550 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: the way that we would have liked for him to finish. 551 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 5: Maybe that played a part and why he didn't play 552 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 5: very well at points in time during the course of 553 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: the season. We're going to go back to him and 554 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 5: we're going to see what he can do in year 555 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 5: two as an Atlanta Falcon. 556 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: And I don't think that would be a horrible approach to. 557 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 5: Be honest with you and give Michael Pennix the opportunity 558 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 5: like you got him some really really impactful game reps, 559 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: because Kirk Cousins really needed to have that time to 560 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 5: kind of make sure that he was all the way 561 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 5: fully back healthy. Shut him down because maybe the season, 562 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 5: maybe the season was on the you know, you were 563 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 5: on a cusp of being a good enough team to 564 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: make the playoffs. Let's see if we can get a 565 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 5: spark from the young buck. If we get a spark, 566 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 5: we're good and he can maintain the job and we 567 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 5: go from there. If he doesn't, we got him some 568 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 5: great reps and we'll try it again with Kirk Cousins 569 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: next year. Because of the contract that we have in hand, 570 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 5: it would seem to be feasible. So it says to 571 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: me that they believe enough at Michael Pennick and what 572 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 5: he was able to bring to the to the table 573 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 5: this first year that he played that they're going to 574 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 5: ride him out and he's going to be the starter. 575 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 5: They're they're feeling good about him being the starter going 576 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 5: into the season, so much so that you know, it's 577 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 5: so okay what happens with with Kirk Cousins, whether he's 578 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 5: the backup, whether we can get you know, capital off 579 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 5: of trading him some way, somehow gained some value there, 580 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 5: but they're going with Michael Pennock. So I said, I 581 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 5: think that that says a lot about their confidence as 582 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 5: an organization in Michael Pennix. And it sounds as though 583 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: he has a lot of confidence as well. He's got 584 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 5: Bejon Robinson in in the backfield. He's got I mean, 585 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 5: if Kyle Pitts is going to be there. It looks 586 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 5: like he is going to be there unless something crazy 587 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 5: happens between now and the season. You know, you got 588 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 5: you got some good, good skill guys. You got guys 589 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: like Ray Ray m McLeod, who's a vetting uh. 590 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 4: In the room. You Drake, Drake London's. 591 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: A bee talent. 592 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 4: You have talent, right, you have talent. 593 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 5: So there's no reason to not think going into the 594 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 5: season with the things that you've said in terms of 595 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 5: the NSC South being a division that's wide open. I mean, 596 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 5: the Saints are going to be a team that's trying 597 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 5: to figure it out this year. Carolina Panthers there going 598 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 5: to be a team that's trying to figure it out 599 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 5: this year. And you would have to assume that Tampa 600 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 5: Bay is going to be Tampa Bay, like they're going 601 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 5: to be a pretty good team, Like they're aging at 602 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: certain positions, the receivers position, but they brought in some 603 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 5: young receivers as well to add to what's going on there. 604 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 5: So I would I would assume that Tampa Bay will 605 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 5: be the standard that'll be the horse in that division. 606 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: But if I'm the Atlanta Falcons, you could be a 607 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 5: dark horse in the NFC South. 608 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: And then on the Tampa front, Tristan Wurf's there. You know, 609 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: multiple time Pro Bowl offensive tackle is going to miss 610 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: the start of the season when Arthur Scott Arthur scottpick 611 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: surgery on his knee, so it's something that flared up 612 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: on him. He dealt with it a little bit last year. 613 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: So you've got that for Tampa Bay. So look, it's 614 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: it's not as if it's not a winnable division. I 615 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: think I think that's probably what the frustration was with 616 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. When Arthur Smith was the coach there, there 617 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: was talent, like you had pieces there, you had a 618 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: lot to that you could work with. They could just 619 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: never figure out the quarterback spot. And he was you know, 620 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: trying to win with you know, Desmond Ritter and some 621 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: others that were there, and ultimately it ended up costing 622 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's job. So now they've invested big time in 623 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, you know, one hundred plus million dollars 624 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins and a high draft pick on Michael Pennix. 625 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully this works. If not, I would just you know, 626 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: use Ai go back and rewatch that Super Bowl against 627 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots, except this time they hold on to the 628 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: lead and then just go that direction. If you're a 629 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: Falcons fan, see if that works. Because if this doesn't work, 630 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. There's opportunity. 631 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 5: When did that quote come out from Kirk Cousins about 632 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 5: filling mislay it? How long ago was that. 633 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: Red that was on the Netflix show? So it was 634 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: last year? 635 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 5: Was it recorded during during the season? Was Michael Penicks 636 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 5: at No? I think Kirk Cousins was still the start? Okay, yeah, 637 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 5: from my understanding, so because there's a way to me 638 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 5: and I know we got to get up to a break. 639 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 5: But wouldn't you think that if if Kirk Cousins didn't 640 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 5: see Michael Pennix, like see him right, not like see 641 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 5: them like literally see them come in the room, but 642 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 5: like see who Michael Pennix is? Would you even say 643 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 5: something like that to the media? Would you say that 644 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 5: in an interview on a show that you know is 645 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 5: going to be used because that's going to be a 646 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 5: real quote. Would you say those things if you didn't 647 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 5: see Michael Pennis. If I saw a kid that I 648 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 5: didn't believe could beat me out, Am I going to 649 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 5: say I felt like I was misled when they drafted 650 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 5: this guy to take my job. So it kind of 651 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 5: like says to me, like, if you pay attention to 652 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 5: some of the small clues and put it in context, 653 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 5: it seems as though Michael Pennix has shown in that 654 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 5: organization that he can be the man. And it'd be 655 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 5: interesting to see if that plays out. If you see 656 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 5: that step forward, is he showed it in college, If 657 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 5: he can bring that element, that element of leadership, that 658 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 5: element of high achievement, the accuracy that he brings to 659 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 5: the table, if he can bring that to Atlanta and 660 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 5: you see that this year, then it's a rep for 661 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins unless something happens to Michael Pinnox. 662 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on 663 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming 664 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: up next, though lesson learn be careful who you run 665 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: your mouth to, especially in the world of sports. 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Guys, 695 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 7: in case you miss it, let's head to Canada because 696 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 7: that's where everything's going down. How about Alberta, Canada? What 697 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 7: was the golf course deer horn hold on, I got 698 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 7: it right here, red deer, red deer, Alberta, Canada, where 699 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 7: a fight took place that went viral on the golf course. 700 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll hear about it. It'll fight time. 701 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 7: It is being investigated that former Florida Panthers enforcer Nick 702 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 7: Tarnaski was in an alleged fight with a fellow golfer 703 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 7: on the course and if you look online you can 704 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 7: find it easily. Uh he puts it makes short work 705 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 7: of the guy. 706 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: Have you guys seen this? 707 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: The guy was running his mouth and he challenged this 708 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: dude to a fight. He was significantly smaller than him. 709 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: He sounded like he had been drinking, but you know Canadians, 710 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: so he wanted to throw down. And this guy just 711 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: wore him out, ragged alled him, hit him multiple times, 712 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: and he fought like a forcer, ragged doll. Yeah, and 713 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: he fought like a hockey player where you could see 714 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,959 Speaker 1: him grab the guy's golf polo. 715 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 5: And just start pulling him down to the hand That's 716 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 5: one thing I love about hockey players. They know how 717 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 5: to pull that that face down to the hand. You 718 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 5: like to push him in the lake first, by the way, 719 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 5: it is, uh, it's great. He threw him in the 720 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 5: water and the guy did, oh, yeah, that's great. 721 00:38:59,280 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 4: It's great. 722 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 3: But I mean it's another example of me. 723 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 2: Watch you, watching you, watch you. 724 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: You run your mouth to and there's some people that 725 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: just don't get it. They just want to try guys. 726 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, man, it's like road like you 727 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: ever seen somebody get bad road rage? 728 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 5: Road rage me the other day, that the other literally 729 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 5: like two days ago. There's a guy that that cut 730 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 5: me off. We end up at the stoplight. I had 731 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: my windows I like him, had my windows down and 732 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 5: listen to music. Cut me off and he starts cursing 733 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 5: me out and I was like, hey, bro, is that 734 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 5: the type of trouble you want to type of he 735 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 5: was causing me. I was like, hey, man, go ahead 736 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 5: about your business. I got that burner right next to me. 737 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 5: Get out that car if you want to, damn just 738 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 5: scuff you up. I'm not getting out of his car anyways, 739 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 5: But you're right, like, you gotta be careful because you 740 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 5: don't know what people got going on these days. And 741 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to get out the car and I'm 742 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 5: not trying to get hurt. Yeah, I hit you with 743 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 5: a kinetic round real quick. You gotta got. 744 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 3: Just so y'all know. 745 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 4: Oh, that's the LeVar. I gotta get the help before 746 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 4: he gets. 747 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: The mele What else we got? 748 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 7: Well, in case you missing, Angel Reese has beaten Caitlon 749 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 7: Clark that for the cover of the NBA two k 750 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 7: W n B A version. 751 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 5: I think that's a topic we need. We might need 752 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 5: to tack with that topic. We might need to tackle that. 753 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 3: Top Yeah, Angel, why not? 754 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 4: I was just joking. 755 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: Really, I don't know. 756 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 5: Maybe that might want That might be a topic worth discussion.