1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Yet you know, boys, it's back and reoaded all in 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the distant franchise, the truth, 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: the scapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: so they quoted because we wrote it. The North South 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: East coach is g b my tree, keeping your head 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: bobbing and ain't no stopping and wants to be drips 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: head by. And then the system is so corrupt they 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: throw the rock out of their heads and then blame 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: it on us. Don't get it twisted on code and 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: scar faces in the building Collective. Louis are the ghetto boys. Reloaded, 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: Reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: studio Jay Press Larry Hoover Jr. Wendy Hoover. She is 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: the mother of Larry Hoover Jr. And the wife of 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Larry Hoover Senior. We are here family because there's a movement, 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: a strong movement to free Larry Hoover. According to Wikipedia, 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Larry Hoover is an American gang leader co founder of 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: the Chicago Street gang Gangster Disciples, who is serving six 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: life sentences at the A d X Florence Prison Florence 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: in Florence, Colorado. He was sentenced to two hundred years 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: for a nineteen seventy three murder and in nineteen seven, 24 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: after seventeen year investigation of conspiracy, extortion, money laundering, and 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: running a continuing criminal enterprise by leading a gang from 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: state prison in the United States of America. I don't 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: know how that that that happened, but anyway, Uh, he 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: received a life sentence after all of these things. I mean, 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: it sounds just like a dangerous man. He just sounds 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: like more dangers than Saddam Hussain in George Bush and 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: all the man. Hi, in the hell does America, letter 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: black man be that dangerous and still a lot? Maybe 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: you can help me out here, man, I mean, I mean, 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: he's your father, man who we know? This is what 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: they're saying. Larry who he is to us? Larry who 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: is A is a dear friend, a brother, a political prisoner? 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: Who is Larry Hoover to you? Well? First of all, um, 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: Larry Hoover is my father. You know what I mean, 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: that's obvious. I'm Larry Hoover Jr. But the definition that 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: they put in Wikipedia, Larry Hoover is formally known as 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: the leader of the Gang's Disciples. Larry Hoover as a 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: kid started that organization and um, you know, just growing 43 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: up in a poor community. The example of gangs and 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: controlling your community is what he's seen from all of 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: the other um white gangs and things that was going 46 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: on around them. But he as he got older, he 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: switched that to growth and development because he's seen a 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: lot of young men that was living gang life coming 49 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: to jail and already had like a ridiculous sensus. So 50 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: he um, he used his leadership skills to change that 51 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: over and try to change lives. They just don't want 52 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: to let all of the accomplishments that he had as 53 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: far as m changing his community go forward and let 54 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: that be his his imprint on who he is. They 55 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: just want to keep it as gangster Disciples. Because he 56 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: had leadership skills and he was using it to make 57 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: a change. He was trying to follow on the footsteps 58 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: of Miya Daily, which came from who came from the 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: streets and had the numbers, and they got together and 60 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: got into politics, and he was trying to do the 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: same thing. And when he showed that it was actually 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: possible that he had the followers to actually make an 63 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: imprint also in a political situation, you know, they had 64 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: decided someone. They said, he was trying to do the 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: right thing with the power that he possessed. Wendy, you 66 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: knew Larry better than anybody. Um, you are the link 67 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: between family the outside community to Larry Hoover. Uh, what 68 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: is his frame of mind these days? This frame of 69 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: mind is stable, It's solid. It's like he's still out 70 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: here in the world mentally. Yeah, what what's it? What's 71 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: it like like being the wife of a man who has, 72 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: you know, been in prison all this time and being 73 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: able to uh stick by him all this time? How 74 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: do you do that? H Um? Compassion for one, love 75 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: and all of the strength my mother gave me, but 76 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: sticking by me and understanding that I needed to keep 77 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: trying to fight to help him get back home, not 78 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: knowing it was gonna be over four years waiting on 79 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: him to come home. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's wild. You know. 80 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: The thing is, you know, would come to my mind oftentimes, 81 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: like when in these type of situations where um, a 82 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: woman got to hold it down, you know, and you 83 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: know at the same time, you know, you have you know, 84 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: his child and when you have his children and um, 85 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: you you have to hold it down and at the 86 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: same time maintain hope. Right, So, how has it been 87 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: as far as the the burden side of you know, 88 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: like whereas where you have to deal with the you know, 89 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: the constant attacks on him when it looks like you 90 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: might be getting gaining some traction where Larry might be 91 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: coming home and then next thing, you know, it gets 92 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: struck down. You're waiting on a judge to to sign 93 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: off on something, or you're trying to get some action 94 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: from the governor. And every time we're talking how many 95 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: decades it's been out at least what's been for decades now? 96 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Since five decades? Yeah? What? Yeah? What? What What do 97 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: you say to people that say, well, you know, why 98 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: are we fighting for this guy that brought so much 99 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, pain to the community that people out there 100 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: that look at Larry and say his former life, he's 101 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: done this and he's done that. He he don't deserve 102 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: to have this type of Uh, attention brought to his name. Uh, 103 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: he don't deserve to have Kanye West and Drake and 104 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: all these type of people supporting him. Let's use that 105 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: support for somebody else. What do you say to those 106 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: type of people, Uh, it need be that they need 107 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: to understand one if this was someone in their family 108 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: and they really cared and they really knew the person 109 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: that they would be, they're fighting for that family member. 110 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Larry has shown compassion and he deserves redemption. 111 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: And that's all he's trying to get is he tried 112 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: redeeming himself. And as he tried redeeming himself by open 113 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: his community, they felt like, uh, he was doing some 114 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: underhanded when they know he was doing more than his 115 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: share to try to redeem himself. He realized what he 116 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: did at a younger age was not proper, but that's 117 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: what he had learned. But then he also learned that 118 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: it was time to help correct his wrongs and the 119 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: only way to do that was to reach out and 120 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: start helping his community, and that that would give him 121 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: redemption for himself because he didn't want to see all 122 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: these kids coming into the institution and have to deal 123 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: with what he had to deal with, especially when a 124 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: lot of them could go in there and tell him 125 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: that they knew his sons out on the streets. What 126 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: are some of the misconceptions that people have about Larry 127 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Whop that that he's a monster, And he's not a monster. 128 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: He's always been concerned about the kids. I mean, he 129 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: he he always he always was respectful for his elders 130 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: and families. Uh yeah, I mean he's a person. People 131 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: just really don't understand. They just think he just as wow, 132 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: uneducated food and uh that's not true. He he he 133 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: got education. He got educated in the institution. When he 134 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: went in there, he was like at a six six 135 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: grade level at this point. I believe if he just 136 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: went that firm, he could have his masters and anything 137 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: he wanted. Yeah, yes, I just wanted to speak on 138 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: when you was asking, um, why does he deserve this help? 139 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Because he was sentenced to five or six life sentences 140 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: for a non violent drug crime, and the First Step 141 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: Act made it to whereas they overcharged people with the 142 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: discrepancy between powder cocaine and crack cocaine that they charged 143 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: these guys with, and with the First Step Act, he 144 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: deserves relief. Most of the people on this case have 145 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: come home and they have both they all charged with 146 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: the same crimes. They had the same charges, and they 147 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: have been released. But with him, it's up to the 148 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: judge's discretion. So I mean, if the law states that 149 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: you do the time for the time they give you 150 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: for the crime that you committed, his time is up 151 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: the law. I mean, the judge actually stated that he 152 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: um qualifies to be released under the First Step Act, 153 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: but it's his discretion on whether on whether he will 154 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: cause harm to the community. He's a seventy one year 155 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: old man who's not gonna cause harm to the community. Also, 156 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: he was trying to help the community before they silenced him. 157 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: It almost seems as though they silenced him because of 158 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: what he was doing. You know, when when a when 159 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: a black man can get ten thousand voters together to 160 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: shut down city Hall and shut down the stock market, 161 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: and they keep saying that this doesn't show what he 162 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: was trying to do in his community. I don't understand it. 163 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: Like all of the good that he was trying to 164 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: that he was trying to do, but just because of 165 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: the law is why he deserves, uh, you know, deserves 166 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: to come home. Because the law states that he qualifies 167 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: to be release. You can't charge him on what you 168 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: think he might do. Give him a chance and see 169 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: what he might do. And if he commits a crime 170 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: or does something illegal, once you give him the fish 171 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: shot that you're giving everybody else that's on that case. 172 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: If he does that, then pick him up and send 173 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: him back. I know they're gonna be watching him, but 174 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: he deserves the opportunity like everybody else that's in the 175 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: same situation with him that's coming home. That's what we 176 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: call him a political prison because this is political. Let 177 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: me have some insight on this as well, because Ms. 178 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: Wendy use a very powerful word, redemption, and that word 179 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: the judges, the prosecutors, you know, all the people that 180 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: call it themselves Christians and believe us of God. That 181 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: redemption word is a powerful word. But if you notice, 182 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to redemption for our people, it's out 183 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: the dictionary, he's out the Bible. You know, nobody want 184 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: to practice this word redemption when it comes to our people. 185 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: And uh, that's a problem. That's a problem in the 186 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: past and the future, and it's gonna be a problem 187 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: in the present if we don't exercise redemption. Jee, When 188 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: did you'n meet? I met my brother Hoover back in 189 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: the ghetto board days when we was first embraced, shortly 190 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: after we was embraced by Chicago. And I know you 191 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: all remember how we would do like two shows and 192 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: one day sometime and how Chicago showed us so much love. 193 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: You know, they would feel the arenas up in different 194 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: things like that. And he acts that I come, will 195 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: come and meet him, and I you know, was on 196 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: it to go and meet him. And up on meeting 197 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: a man is uh where my life was changed forever 198 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: because I met a man that was was sharp, you 199 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, was brilliant. You know, I met 200 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: a man that was different from most of the men 201 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: that I had met, that was free, and even though 202 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: he was behind them bars, he was free. Now when 203 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: I am at that joint, you know, he was even 204 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: sharper than me. You know, he had the gators and 205 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: different things on, and you know what I mean, he 206 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: was he was sharp. But the walk that we took 207 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: around that prison yard and the conversations that we had 208 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: around that prison yard, Uh, he tapped into my spirit 209 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: to the extent where I knew he wasn't lying to me. 210 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't fake. I knew he wasn't phony. 211 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: I knew that the growth and development a vision that 212 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: he had was bigger than what had went on in 213 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: the past. Now, the truth be told. We all have 214 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: a past, you know what I mean? The truth be 215 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: told Mayor Daily and many others. Kennedy's everybody have a pass. 216 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: You know. As a kid, we all done a lot 217 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: of dumb things. But as we matured and became grown man, 218 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: we put childissh things away and start focusing in different areas. 219 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: What he said to me was so powerful until I 220 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to keep it to myself. And that's how 221 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: the intro and everything came about what the Ghetto Boys 222 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: was concerned because on the Resurrection album, you know, I 223 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: want to share with the world because you know, as 224 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: you all witnessed, the words that he said was worthy 225 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: of sharing. So in the face of all kinds of 226 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: threats from all the three letter hp D police departments, 227 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: y'all know the stand that we took together as a 228 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: unit as the Ghetto Boys. You know, we moved forward 229 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: and we allowed his farce to be heard around the world. 230 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: Now that was alone answer, But that's how mid level. 231 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Who know that's that was a well worth listening to answer, 232 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, um ms, Wendy, I mean I just got 233 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: so many questions for you, Like I mean you, like 234 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: I said, you you probably know you gotta at least 235 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: you know him better than everybody in this room does. 236 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: And I just want to know, like, what was it 237 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: like when you guys first met, Like when you first met, 238 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: you first laid eyes on him or he laid eyes 239 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: on you? What was that like? I mean, what happened? 240 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: You know who? You holiday at him first? You said, hey, 241 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: how that you for a minute? Or how did it go? Okay, 242 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: let's say as that goes. I had a younger sister 243 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: and she was having a house party. Now I'm just 244 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: a year older than her, but I grew up faster 245 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: than have them. So I was supposed to be one 246 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: of the chaperon's at the house party and one of 247 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: my cousins, and she was also supposed to be a 248 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: chaperone because my parents were out of town. And my 249 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: sister's boyfriend who now I have a niece from him, 250 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: and he and his name was Larry also, so with 251 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: Larry Turner, it was Larry Hoover and they came around 252 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: to the party, and that's when the guys was wearing 253 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: the process and they here all did up and called 254 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: herself trying to be dressers and or whatever. So, but 255 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: he came to the party. When the party was over, 256 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: everybody left excuse as me and my sister's boyfriend came 257 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: back to the house and said, my friend want to 258 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: meet you. And I said, well, who you're talking about? 259 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: And he said, I'm gonna go get him. He wanted 260 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: he want to come talk to you, and he went outside. Now, man, 261 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: you my cousin and I already had a conversation about 262 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 1: him when he came in the door, because he was 263 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: really looking looking good. And she was saying, oh, I'm 264 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: going to talk to him, and I said, oh, no, 265 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: you're not. You're not gonna talk to him. I'm gonna 266 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: talk to him. Well, as it turned out, he sent 267 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: my sister's boyfriend back in there to see if I 268 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: would talk to him, and he came into the house. 269 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: Everybody was gone from the party, and it just that night. 270 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: We just end up sitting up in the living room 271 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: and we talked all night long. I didn't know nothing 272 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: about who know. Larry Whover was yeah, I just knew 273 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: Larry Whover that his name was Levi. But so so 274 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: fast forward. You know, you guys take to each other 275 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: and and and you know, y'all you you're feeling him, 276 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: he's feeling you. And now y'all you you're getting into 277 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: a relationship. And tell us about what I want to 278 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: know is like, like what type of guy was Larry 279 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Hoover as an individual a person? Because we only know 280 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: what well I'm saying, as far as the general public, 281 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: the general public only know what they hear. They hear 282 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: the It's almost like folklore or something, you know, but 283 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: we all the general public only know what they here. 284 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: You know, I want you to tell us what type 285 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: of person, what type of human being is Larry a 286 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: very respectful charing. I mean, he loved children. It's always 287 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: concerned about that, but he's very respectful. Instance that I 288 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: know about is that him and a guy had got 289 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: into it one time and he wanted to address this 290 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: guy and it just happened that he bumped into this 291 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: guy on the streets with his mama, with the guy's 292 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: mother coming from the grocery store, and he in turn, 293 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: and I guess he had maybe a couple of more 294 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: people with him. But anyway, they helped that guy take 295 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: his mother's groceries home so they could keep him outside 296 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: or whatever issues they had, they was going to deal 297 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: with it after they made sure his mama was in 298 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: the house safe. Well that's beautiful. Yeah, So that's that, 299 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: that's that's that's what I know. And then I started 300 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: hearing about, Uh, do you know who you're messing around with? That? 301 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: Uh Larry Hoover. He getting all kind of trouble and 302 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: he run the game. But I didn't see that. Sad 303 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: he didn't show me that side. And that's another reason 304 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: people never believe that I don't know all of what 305 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: he was going through because I didn't because he kept 306 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: it away from me. I knew he was doing things 307 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: he had no business doing, but he didn't bring it 308 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: home to me. Yeah, you know, he kept it out 309 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: in the streets. I mean, I mean, basically, he's a 310 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: he's a man of morals and respect, you know. He um, 311 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: he always he said, you were a man first before anything, 312 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And he knows how to 313 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: give respect. That's how he got so much love and 314 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: respect from other guys. You know, even in a situation 315 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: since he's been in he's been in jail most of 316 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: his life. When when when guys come in and they 317 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: come in and they're from different organizations, you know, he 318 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: introduced itself to the guys as they come in the door, 319 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: so they can try to meet each other and have 320 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: some type of understanding and know each other. So they 321 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: wasn't meeting each other when somebody stole a cupcake and 322 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: now this organization is um into it with the other organization, 323 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: and now they don't know each other. So it's no 324 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: way to solve or hash these situations out. So he's 325 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: just a man that with morals in respect. You know, 326 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: he don't understand what he's hearing about that's going on 327 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: on the streets nowadays. He can't even you know, really 328 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: understand it. But yeah, he's a he's a man of 329 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: respecting morals. How much is my time? We don't leave 330 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: me at you know, I want to I want to 331 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: be able to uh because I had on a speaking 332 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: with him a few times in the past and the president. Uh, 333 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: he's a man whereas yes mean yes and there's no 334 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: mean no meaning. He's a he's a man of his word. 335 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, if he tell you're gonna 336 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: do something, He's gonna do it. He's a man with 337 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: a vision. He's a visionary person. He's a man that 338 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: know how to think, you know what I mean, a 339 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know how to think. He really 340 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: know how to think. He because he's a leader. He's 341 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: a leader, and that's what a lot of people have 342 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: a problem with his leadership mindset. You know, uh, in 343 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: the past, you know, one may have done things that 344 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: you know wasn't as a kid, you know how to 345 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: we all we all done dumb ship before we That's 346 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: why we as a people and our in a generation 347 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: understand him so much more than other people understanding because 348 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, we understand where we come from, and we 349 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: understand that people with voices like him and in a 350 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: mindset like him. We were listening to them above the 351 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: police and above the president and all these different people 352 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: that won't have a voice in our community, but they 353 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: don't mean ship in our community. So it almost appear 354 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: that purposely, you know, the individuals that have changed and 355 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: that would really have a voice in our community, it's 356 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: a conspiracy to put a muzzle over their mouth because 357 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: they don't want us to hear from them because they 358 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: know actual change will take place, and this is the 359 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: sleeping giant that needs to be awakened, you know, where 360 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: our people are concerned, so we can fight harder, you know, 361 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: for people like Hoover and so many other political prisoners. 362 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: How much of that putting that muzzle on people like 363 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: Larry Hoover is responsible for the violence and and and 364 00:23:54,680 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: the the the disorganization that's going on in Chica. Go 365 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: right now with the youth. You know, I don't know 366 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: the percentage. You know, I'm not here to lie and 367 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: say the percentage, but this is what I know. I 368 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: know his voice means something, you know, And I know 369 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: his voice means something to the mass in Chicago because 370 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: I understand me. I understand the youth like they ain't 371 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: never been our age. We've been their age, so we 372 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: understand them a little better than they even understand themselves. 373 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: But you know, Larry, you can speak on that. I mean, basically, 374 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: it's a It plays a major role because it's a 375 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: disconnect between the the youth and the elders. You know, 376 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: when when the elders are not there, they don't know 377 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: how to how to respect for the elders. So you 378 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: know what, what with taking the elders away the youth, 379 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: The youth are missing something, you know. Along I mean, 380 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: it's definitely playing. Nobody wants us to come together and 381 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: um and my father always took spoke of being a 382 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: power to be reckoned with and the power came into numbers. 383 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: And his whole life he's been he's been knowing that 384 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: power came in numbers, even as far as as a 385 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: youth when he didn't even have the right mind frame 386 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: and he put the organization together, he knew that the 387 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: power was in the numbers. And when it came to 388 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: getting older and seeing what needed to be done and 389 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: make changes and voting and trying to put people in 390 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: position to um make changes in our community, the powers 391 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: in the numbers, you know what I mean. So, I 392 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: mean just that's just that's just who he is. He 393 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: was always about bringing people together. When and when they 394 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: took him away, it just it just took a voice 395 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: of reason away. Like it was youth that they talked 396 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: about it. They put it on the news and these 397 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: guys that was out there when it was doing marches 398 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: and stuff, and um, they put them on the camera 399 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: and they'd be like, well, why y'all here, and they'd 400 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: be like, I don't know. But the thing is, if 401 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: he had the power to bring the people here and 402 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: they was gonna come and follow and it was for 403 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: something positive, that's something to be scared about because you 404 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: can get these people here that regularly wouldn't have been here. 405 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't know why they was there, some 406 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: of them, but they was there because they was following 407 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: what the lead was and the League was taking them 408 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: to do something positive. And that's you know, that's like fearful, 409 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: Like you can get these individuals that we can't talk 410 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: to and we can't get them to calm down, to 411 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: come together and come get on the bus and go 412 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: march and shut down city Hall and shut down the 413 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: stock market. Like that's that's America's biggest threat that we 414 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: all encourage, encourages over to go out and vote and 415 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: take control of their commune of these and you know, 416 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: as long as you have someone in in these particular 417 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: high places, so to speak, they're gonna always you know, 418 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: speak thing language will never speak all lang language, will 419 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: never speak out for us, will never speak up for us. 420 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: So we have somebody in office that represent his people, 421 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, but not ours. And I see that all 422 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: the time with with with with the different politicians that 423 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: I come in contact with. And I'm thinking to myself, 424 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: yeah you you bike oh black in color only, m 425 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: that's it. And and and and that's a bigger threat 426 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: to America than a terrorist. A black man with a voice, 427 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: with leadership. And man, you know you encapsulated that perfectly. 428 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: Man on that on that ghetto boys pointing a return yourself, 429 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: good God man ship, Well you made me go. I 430 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: never told you that you maybe go rewap my verse. Say, man, 431 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: you see what if I learned them, you'll be and 432 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: funk with you in the ways that you funk with me, 433 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: and underlying all your downfalls, underlying them up and bring 434 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: the pound down on you your neighborhood with a drug 435 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: called hate it shot you in come and control y'all. Faith, 436 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: provide your motherucking with that ship to look cool and 437 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: out of pressure the rains. Keep your ass out of school, 438 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: you don't work, you don't you don't eat, you don't eat, 439 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: you don't sleep. And then I got your ass in 440 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: the pausing on your own breath. Turn you from Jesus, 441 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: get you out your faith and hit your ass with diseases, 442 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: and now you can't reproduce and your child. It ain't 443 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: worrying about you dying slogans. I'm gonna keep you killing, 444 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: pausing your dream from the jump, holding you in a 445 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: pen of chance. You read like a pump where you 446 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: can't do shipping us don't know, man, you fail, And 447 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: you wonder why I hate them? And I paint this 448 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: picture because the government is fucked up. It has been 449 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: and it always will be until we decide to take 450 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: that a new ship too, on ourselves, to push our neighborhoods, 451 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: to get those people in that actually give a funk 452 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: about those people. Yeah, vote for me when I run 453 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: for president. Does anybody have an answer for what can 454 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: be done about these judges having so much latitude? Like 455 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: these judges, they are human beings. When they make these decisions, 456 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: they bring their own prejudices to the table when they 457 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: when they consider making a decision on who they're gonna 458 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: give a break to, who they're not going to give 459 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: a break to they have, they bring those prejudices to 460 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: the table with them. As your question, you know before 461 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: that faith, because this first step back right that that 462 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, my brother who will qualify for you know, 463 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: he qualified for this. People on this same case has 464 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: been released. They free. They here with us. Now, this 465 00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: word discretion, it's an interesting word, you know what I'm mean. 466 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: It's a word that I think is wrapped around racism. 467 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: It's contacted, is connected to a whole lot of trickery, 468 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: this discretion because you know, I don't even know how 469 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: to spell it, but it's a word that gives the 470 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: judge power to play games. And I hope and I 471 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: pray that this judge don't shoot, don't choose to play 472 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: games with that discretion word, because to me, that word 473 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: discretion is a really racist word, you know what I mean, 474 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: and give the power to exercise racism. You qualify, you 475 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: don't You know? All this discretion business for one man 476 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: to have after you qualify is trickery, you know what 477 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean. It's political. It's a lot of politics around 478 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot of games around that. And uh. One 479 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: thing we understand though at this table, I believe is 480 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: at the at the end of the day, God, I 481 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: got the last say so, your creator, you know what 482 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he has the last say so, and we 483 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: just believe that he's gonna have the last say so 484 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: when he free him. And you know, that's just amount 485 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: of time that they're gonna come and it's gonna be soon, 486 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: you boys. Reloaded podcast will be right back after the point. 487 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: Let's witch gears for a moment. Uh. That's a documentary 488 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: that's uh in question right now. Uh as in terms 489 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: of uh who owns the rights to Larry Hoover's uh 490 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: life story? And this documentary is it is causing a 491 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: lot of strife, you know, like who owns the right 492 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: to Larry? Who was name? And did y'all give this 493 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: woman I think is a Chapman something like that, Yes, 494 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: Karen Chapman that you're asking about. Okay, Yeah, did you 495 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: guys ever like formally give her the right to uh 496 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: to make that documentary and put it out? Did y'all 497 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: give an ownership? Now? Now, we we didn't give her ownership. 498 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: At one point in time we were working with Karen. 499 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: She was an associate of OSS and she came in 500 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: as if she was a friend of the family. That's 501 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: that's the way she even got to go to meet 502 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: my father. It's through my mother. You know. It's not 503 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: like she met him and set up a visit and 504 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: he told her to come in. She came. She got 505 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: to meet my father because my mother trusted that she 506 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: was an upstanding individual. So did y'all build a bond. 507 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: But her first she was friends of a friend of 508 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: the family first. Yeah, she started it off as friends 509 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: of the family, and we were trying to work together 510 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: to do some things years ago. But the things never 511 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: materialized that we were trying to do and she disappeared 512 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: with the footage from the interviews that she did. So 513 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: how did that come about? How did the interview the 514 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: whole idea for the interviews come about because we were 515 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: trying to um, we were trying to do like a 516 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: documentary and uh, some book stuff at the time. So 517 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: she was going in they led her in to interview. 518 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean she said she did. We met her. She 519 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: was from l a and she was working in that field. Yeah, 520 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: so so we we set it up for him to 521 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: meet her, told him that it was okay, that she 522 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: was okay, and then she was gonna come in and 523 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: he agreed to to speak with her, and then she 524 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: went in for us, and the things that we were 525 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: trying to do never happen. She never turned over the 526 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: footage from the things that she did. I don't even 527 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: remember exactly if um she was supposed to get um 528 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: video footage or if she was trying to It was 529 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: audio only, okay, So she was supposed to get audio 530 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: and she had video footage, and the video footage that 531 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: she took just happens to be hers. So she was 532 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: she was um, she was undercutting us out of the gate, 533 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, she went down there and took footage of 534 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: something going to work for us and was doing something 535 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: that was personally for her, she felt like in the beginning, 536 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: but she was supposed to be working with us too, 537 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: either try to do a documentary or or Neo Strauss 538 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: helping him get his book put out. And that's why 539 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: they were doing audio having discussions with him for Neil 540 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: to be able to help him right this book. So 541 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: that was no paperwork initially signed with her. Ya just 542 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: it was just trust, you know. The only paperwork that 543 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: was signed was to be signed for her to be 544 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: able to record his voice. That was it, okay. And 545 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: then she went and so she recorded the video. And 546 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: when she recorded the video, she said, okay, this is 547 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: mine where she but he didn't know she was recording video. 548 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be audio only. She had a 549 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: camera here I take it somewhere, and he only signed 550 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: off for her to to the audio with him in 551 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: order for Neil Strauss to write the book. Yeah, well 552 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: this is this is what you call a prime example 553 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: of a snake, you know what I mean, going in 554 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: the uh going in there to do an interview that 555 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: was set up by the family. And she had her 556 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: own agenda, you know what I mean. She had her 557 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: own agenda then, and she have our own agenda. Now. 558 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: You know this woman, you know, this uh dude by 559 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: the name of Officer Rat one hundred is taking a 560 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: position to like stand with this snake, you know, and 561 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: in spite of you know, and his thing is like, 562 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: this is an innocent, elderly woman that Jay is trying 563 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: to stand up on. That's the way he paint the 564 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: narrative to to the people when it's the opposite. You know, 565 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: ain't no, she ain't no, she ain't no victim. She's 566 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: a volunteer, you know what I mean. She's a snake 567 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: and she see the opportunity. This was a snake that 568 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: went into hiding. You know, she's been on the rock hiding, 569 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, the buzz is going on. 570 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: Well the who her name is concerned, So just like 571 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: a snake, you know, she won to come out and 572 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: eat and she got a clown. You know this, this 573 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: rat one hundred guy has chosen to take a stand 574 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: with a snake because he's a snake. And uh, you know, 575 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: we have a problem with that. We have a problem 576 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: with that. And you know a lot of the lies 577 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: that you were hearing, you know it's coming from him 578 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: being in action. And you know, I was just in 579 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: l a not long but we was all there and 580 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: this dude, you know, came beside me with a whole 581 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: different attitude as if he was trying to accommodate and 582 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: help the family. You know, I've been watching him from 583 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: a distance from a long time, you know, for a 584 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: long time, and never really liked what I saw. But 585 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: I've kind of viewed it as an opportunity for him 586 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: to redeem himself if he could, uh like deliver or 587 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: contribute to delivering something for the family. But you know, 588 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: just like the snake that he is, he showed his 589 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: true color. You know, you're dealing with a dude that 590 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: that a ship in the bed the side of the 591 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: baby and blaming on the baby. You know what I mean, 592 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: he didn't want ship it right, So that's that's just 593 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: how you know how strong he liked to lie your 594 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: ship in the bed and blaming on the baby. Faith 595 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, imagine that in in a brother with diarrhea 596 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: at the mouth. You know, did the Did Larry Hoover 597 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: Senior signed any kind of release to this woman for 598 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: the documentary? Do anybody have knowledge of that? That may 599 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: have been the case or may not. But it's something 600 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: that goes deeper than that. So if it if it 601 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: was the case, is it possible that he thought he 602 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: was signing something that was already agreed upon with the family, 603 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: Well if he like he was and deceived, If he was, 604 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: if he signed over everything to her, like there's no 605 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: way he would have done that, like you know, how 606 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: to cut the family out, how you know? You know 607 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: this this is a little too much information, but years 608 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: ago we was trying to do something with Jay and 609 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: this is family somebody he knows. He wasn't sign his 610 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: stuff over to Jake without it being what it needs 611 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: to be. This person he didn't even know, so he 612 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: definitely wasn't trying to say if it was that shows 613 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: the snake who she is. She was deceiving them. But 614 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: she's the type of person where we were trying to 615 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: get my father a package together for my father's partner 616 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: to show what his mind state was and who he 617 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: was and what he was about, and she said, how 618 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: am I gonna get paid? Who's gonna get paid for this? 619 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: When we was trying to get a package together for 620 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: his pardon. She wouldn't give us any other video to 621 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: help put a package together because she was worried about 622 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: who's going to get paid, But only when she seen 623 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: that we were dealing with Kanye and it was a buzz. 624 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: Then she came out and we were trying to put 625 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: something together because we wanted to show something at the 626 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: at the concert about who he was because we're trying 627 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: to bring recognition to a situation and yeah, humanism, And 628 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: they sent a ransom video. It wasn't anything that you 629 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: could use. All they were showing was that they actually 630 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: had videos something like five or six seconds. They didn't 631 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: have them speaking or anything on there, and they you know, 632 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: they just trying to say to the world like like 633 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: we're being difficult when really they're trying to take what's ours, 634 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: take what's I'm Larry Hoover Jr. This is Wendy Hoover, 635 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: Like they're trying to take what's ours, what deserves to 636 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: come to our family. This woman is trying to, you know, 637 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: eat off us as if we don't deserve what comes 638 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: with the Hoover name, you know, I mean, it's man, 639 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: she low down and you know I thought she was 640 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: a friend like she was really we treated a life family. 641 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: I don't even understand this or where it came from. 642 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: What what it's difficult for me to believe is that 643 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: she tried it. You know what I'm saying, Like with 644 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: the Hoover she's saying like this, ain't you know this 645 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: ain't no sucker ship. You know this is everybody know 646 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: this is This is documented, it's real, it's solid, it's authentic, 647 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, and you know that that ain't gonna fly. 648 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: You know that's not gonna fly. It's you know, I 649 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: don't I don't understand you know how somebody could think 650 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: that that's gonna work out right, you know for them, 651 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I just think the right for me, 652 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: it's it's difficult for me to see that how some 653 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: someone would try to cut the family out period of 654 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: anything like it, no matter who, whether it was you, 655 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: was you guys, or some other family whatever. You know, 656 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 1: how do you put a story out about a man 657 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: without his family's approval. I wouldn't even want to be 658 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: associated with the presson. You know. You know what's even 659 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: deeper than the story, y'all. What's deeper than the story 660 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: is its freedom. You know what I mean? His pardon 661 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: was that the list where one could have contributed footage 662 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: to humanize this man that was speaking intelligent lee about 663 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot of things. His freedom at the concert. We 664 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: want to put, you know, for Amazon to put in 665 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: households around the world to humanize this man, you know 666 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, where his freedom is concerned. First, you 667 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. All other is down the line. 668 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: But you gotta you gotta individual that made it appear 669 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: like send us contracts and stuff like they was going 670 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: to give us something of substance and gave us footage 671 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: that was less than like twenty seconds ransom, you know 672 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: what I mean, ransom footage. So you're dealing with some 673 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: cold indivisions right here, some rats, you know what I mean? 674 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: These are rats, and the whole movement is rat infested. 675 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: And that's the reality of what we're dealing with, you 676 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean, No matter how one may try 677 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: to change the narrative and make it the woman be 678 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: the victim. Now you ain't no victim. Use a volunteer 679 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: to be of snake. You showed who you was. Now 680 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: we we got the flashlight on both of you because 681 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: both of them snakes Rat one hundred, also RAT one 682 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: hundred and Karen Chapman, both of y'all snakes, and uh, 683 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: the sooner they do the right thing, maybe you know 684 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: what I mean, just maybe you know the burden will 685 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: be lifted. So so where where are we with everything 686 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: right now? Where are we with that? Well, everything right 687 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: now is right here at the table, you know what 688 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean. We're talking about it. We want to shine 689 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: a spotlight on it. And we don't believe in letting 690 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: the enemy know all of our moves, you know what 691 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, because we are people. We are intelligent people. 692 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: And my brother Larry Hoover is so intelligent until he 693 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: would never sign no papers or whatnot, do nothing weak 694 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 1: like they're trying to portray him. You know, they act 695 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: like he don't have people out here they love him, 696 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's how you treat people 697 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: that that's by themself, you know what I mean, That 698 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: ain't the case. So for one to take the position 699 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: that they're taking their foods their foods. These are people 700 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: of darkness in this clown, if you think about him, 701 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: here's a clown like I love the hip hop culture. 702 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm in love with the hip hop culture. Blood, sweat 703 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: and tears went in my movement for the hip hop culture. 704 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: Here's a man that disrespect the dead Tupac, Nipsey Hustle. 705 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: You know people that that means something to us, you know, 706 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: twenty one Savage. I look at how you know, get 707 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: on the phone on his clubhouse with another rat and 708 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: and and ride against him. Big You you know somebody 709 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: that's respected in him, Master Pete. You know when I 710 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: think about all individuals that done something where hip hop 711 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 1: is concerned, that means something to us what hip hop 712 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: is concerned. And then you got a clown like this 713 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: hire you know that's talking about you know, uh, lip 714 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: wrassling by what he gonna do to J Prince, you 715 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And and all I could say 716 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: about things like that is I'm gonna make him twork 717 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: if he come this way, because I know who he is, right, 718 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make him twork with some lipstick and makeup on, 719 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: because you know that's that's the way that is with 720 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: all that lip wrassling he's doing. You know, this dude 721 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: is uh like a real bozo. And I don't understand 722 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: how l A because we got so much respect for 723 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: l A. But here's what I know about him in 724 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: l A. The man can't walk on his own block, 725 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? This this this whole movement 726 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: between like him and then you got and daddy got 727 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: a Charleston White, Right, I feel like talking about all 728 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: this stuff, right, you gotta Charleston Right. But but Charleston 729 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: White is more real than he is this whack officer 730 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: whack one because Charleston White or tell you here a 731 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 1: rat and he's gonna call the police and he gonna 732 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: do all of that. This rat one hundred dude slides 733 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 1: up on the real ones and portray to be something 734 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: that he not, you know what I mean, which makes 735 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: him more of a threat. So my advice to the 736 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: hip hop culture with individuals like him, don't let him 737 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: know what you have when you go to l A 738 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: because we know would come we're being rotten, you know 739 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. Let's let's let's uh delete the relationships 740 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: with this wood rack, you know what I mean, because 741 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: he know he don't mean y'all no good cheers. But 742 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: and and just to finish that off on where we're 743 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: at with it on they still try. They still feel 744 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: as though they can take advantage of the family. That's 745 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: what they feel like, That's what they at with it. 746 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: And we're making this clear. This is not a situation 747 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: where we are advocating nothing. You know, it ain't about that. 748 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: But what we are doing the shine in the spotlight 749 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: on people that's trying to take advantage of our loved ones. 750 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: And you know this interview is so much bigger than them, 751 00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, the whole focusing, the big pitch, yeah, 752 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: is free my father, you know what I mean, because 753 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: there's so many individuals that's fatherless, uh, that's sitting in 754 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: the same position. And just like the ghetto boys, just 755 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: like we're done forghettos all around the world, we wanted 756 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: to be a vos for individuals in the hood all 757 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: around the world. So we're doing nothing different than what 758 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: we always done, you know what I mean, fighting for 759 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: the less fortunate, fighting for the vorse less. You know, 760 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: the individuals that we know was good people, good individuals, 761 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: and didn't have a didn't have a mic. So that's 762 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: how we came together. That's how he embraced me. You 763 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. When I went in there and 764 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: visit um my brother who but he knew about all 765 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: the songs, you know what I mean, I mean lyrics this, 766 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: This brother knew about this. I was shocked. I'm like, man, 767 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: you've been studying, you've been listening to us, so this 768 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: ain't no faith uh, embracement of love. You really understand 769 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: what we've been talking about, and you understand the fearlessness 770 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: and the nuts that we had to say what we said. 771 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: And he was in love with that. Yeah, he was 772 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: definitely the fifth number of the group that apple. He 773 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: was fumber group. Girl Voice Revoting podcast will be right 774 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: back after the set. MS Wendy. Where are we now 775 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: in terms of legalities with Larry's case, We're still waiting 776 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: on this judge is up to this judge right now. 777 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: And as they say, the judge allowed him to have 778 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: a second bite of the apple. And that's what everybody 779 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: is diligently working towards, is getting paperwork and things together 780 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: to this judge make a decision of releasing him. And 781 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: all we can do right now is wait. All of 782 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: all the work is being done on the outside to 783 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: be prepared for this judge. So yeah, we have to 784 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: we have to answer the questions that um the judge 785 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: felt the scrapancy about trying to let him know that 786 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: there's no reason for him to worry about who he's 787 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: letting back into the world. He's letting a good man 788 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: into the world that could possibly make a change in 789 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: the world. They don't I don't believe they want him 790 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 1: to do that, but you know, he could possibly make 791 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: a change in the world. And if they wanted to 792 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: leave and get out the way, he get out the way. 793 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:43,240 Speaker 1: But you know, give him an opportunity to come home. Man, 794 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: we we we need whoever, whoever, then we we need 795 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: every all hands on deck. And it's not just Chicago, 796 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's not just Chicago. It's every city in America. 797 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: We need all as on deck. Meant, anybody that can 798 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 1: motivate the youth, anybody that can inspire them. Anybody can 799 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: get them to get on the right track and lead 800 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: the dumb stuff alone, because we need them. They are 801 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 1: our futures. Like you know, no matter what you might 802 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: some people may think about them, you know. I hear 803 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: sometimes people say, well, you know, the youth are lost. 804 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm okay, they lost they lost them. Yeah, I submit 805 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: that it was the generation that came before them. If 806 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: they're lost, we lost we We did it. So it's 807 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: up to us to find it. You lose, you lost it, 808 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: you find it, you know, So it's up to us 809 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: to help them find themselves. Yeah. And it's also up 810 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: to us that see these these uh, these prosecutors and 811 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: and some of these judges are really racist individuals, man, 812 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: and we have to face reality about that. You know, 813 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: some of these people when it comes to us making 814 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: a mistake or what not, really feel that we don't 815 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: deserve a second chance. I mean they I mean all 816 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: the way, and they gut, and they in the spirit 817 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 1: and they soul, They straight races and and hate monsters. 818 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, the system is built offer who you 819 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: can lock up and who you can hate the most, 820 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 1: you get promoted, you know what I mean. Think about 821 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 1: how this whole thing instructured. So we're dealing with individuals 822 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: like that that You've got old prosecutors right now that 823 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: you know. Every time they hear the name Whover, they 824 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: want some spotlight. They want to come in and talk 825 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: about the past. I talked to this man in the future. 826 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm I'm a real good 827 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: judge of character. You know my intuition, My deserment is 828 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: strong where individuals concerned. I know this is a change, man, 829 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I understand that I'm not 830 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: talking to uh, nineteen seventy, nineteen eighty Larry Whover. But 831 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: when they look at our color and they look at us, 832 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 1: they don't have no forgiveness, man, not whatsoever. They don't 833 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: believe it, they don't want to hear it. They're just 834 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: on automatic shutdown of hate. And it's a sad thing 835 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: for our people to be in a position, speaking of 836 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: the black people, to be in a position of power 837 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: that won't our vote, but won't stand up against these 838 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: devils in high places. Funny thing, man, And this is 839 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: what I know about you, to be factual. If it 840 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: was any bullshit in that game at all, you're gonna 841 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: disconnect I know that to be factual. It's I know 842 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: you will never say anything about somebody somebody's character that 843 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: is not true. I know you very well, and I 844 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: know that you're not gonna ride for nobody unless he 845 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: absolutely right. It's real, And that's the really ship I 846 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: can say about that guy, because he's not gonna endors 847 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: nothing that ain't the truth. So if you say that 848 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: that man is it changed man, he's grown and learned 849 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: from his mistakes, then I'm gonna believe that. Yeah. Now 850 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,479 Speaker 1: I stand on that. I stand on that. That's his son. 851 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: He know him all his life. Yeah, he knew him 852 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: when he was born, and he knowing him not he 853 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: he witness to change with his eyes, our witness to change. 854 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 1: In conversation, you know, even though he brews right now, 855 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: he ain't broken. M I spoke with him and Julian. 856 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: You don't ask you a question, man. It's something the 857 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: same question I had for Fred Hampton Jr. You know, 858 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 1: how is it like wearing that name? Man? Like did 859 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: you see it as as you know, what's the upside 860 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: and what's the downside? Is that? Is that? Is that 861 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: upside or downside? You know? How do you view like 862 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: wearing the name Larry Hoover, a name that's a social 863 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: d you know, with such a polarizing figure and someone 864 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: that's something that some people you know, still fit all right. 865 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: Well for one, you know, knowing that I could be 866 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: possibly considered a criminal because that's how they see my father, 867 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's one of the that's one 868 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: of the downsides of it. Um. Also a downside is, 869 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'll view my father as a great man, 870 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: and you know, living in his footsteps, in the in 871 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: the shadow of Larry Hoover or anybody that would be 872 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: considered a great man. It's kind of hard because it's like, 873 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: what can you do to um, you know, philly shoes 874 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: of somebody that's considered a great man. You know, So 875 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of downside. But to go 876 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: along with that, you know, I was raised the way 877 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: that he was trying to raised the people that believed 878 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,720 Speaker 1: in him. Like I am an example of what growth 879 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: and development is. You know, growth and development never stops you. 880 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: You keep growing and developing your whole life. I went 881 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: to I went to college, I got married, I have 882 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: a family. I've been in my family's life the whole 883 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: time I worked a job for twenty plus years. Like, 884 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: I am an example of what my father was trying 885 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: to do. Also with that, it was about trying to 886 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, start your own business and all that other stuff. 887 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm an example of what my father 888 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: was trying to bring. He was trying to bring us 889 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: to be part of the community and not outcast of 890 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: the community. But like I said, the downside is living 891 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: in the shadows of who my father is, Like you 892 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: can't you can't match up to that, you know what 893 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, or it would be very hard, you know. 894 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: And the fact that people see you as how they 895 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 1: your father, the people that don't see him for who 896 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: he had became, the people to see him for who 897 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 1: he is in the past and to look at you 898 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: and look at the name and say that, oh, that's 899 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 1: the son of the leader of the gangster disciples, so 900 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: he must be a criminal also, you know. So it's just, um, 901 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of it's kind of tough to 902 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: walk in the shadows of Larry Hoover because people are 903 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: looking for you to be Larry Hoover. You know, you know, 904 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: I got that. I want to follow up on that wheel. 905 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: I think that testimony that he just made it so powerful. 906 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: I think it's the most powerful of all, you know 907 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, Because this is his son. You know, 908 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't know too many people other than his wife 909 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: that's closer. And for him to turn out the way 910 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: he has turned out is the perfect example. If you 911 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: think about every other criminal in the has that meant 912 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: no good, their son didn't mean no good, you know 913 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. If you think about the guy that 914 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: is and all the people, their son went a whole 915 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: different direction, right, Yeah, a whole lot of them, you 916 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So he was talking to his daddy, 917 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He always had his mama, 918 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: Miss Hoover, but he was talking to his daddy too. 919 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: So for him to be a focused as he is 920 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 1: and sharp as he is right today, I see his 921 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: daddy all over, you know what I mean. So to me, 922 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: that's like the perfect living example that we can touch 923 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: of his work, you know what I mean, of his word, 924 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: living in in different things. So you know that's uh, 925 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: that's just powerful to me. Ms Wendy, Did did you 926 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: have any hesitation about naming Jr? After his father? No? 927 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: And I got that same question for you, did you 928 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: have any question, Do you have any doubt about naming 929 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: your son after you? Because your son is your your 930 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: son is it is Larry who the third? You know, 931 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: I thought about it, but I couldn't do nothing different. 932 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, I thought about different names and like, man, 933 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: let's go put um something on him. But he got 934 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: to deal with But tell him how proud he was 935 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: that you did that. But what I couldn't do nothing else. 936 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: I had the name on Larry. You know, that's my 937 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: only son. We gotta gotta keep it going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 938 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: You know my brother told me thank you one time, uh, 939 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: speaking to ladder Huba, and he was saying thank you 940 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 1: for you know, spending time and different things. Whereas grandkid 941 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: was concerned and he said to me said, you know, 942 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad that they ain't got the hole their head down. 943 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Well I'm concerned. That was heavy to me, you know 944 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, because he was a stand up individual, 945 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, he was a man, and he is proud 946 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: that none of them have to hold their head down 947 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: where he is concerned. I just thought I would say 948 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: that it was his words. And what's going on with 949 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: the clothing line you're still doing? Get old Prisoner. You 950 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,439 Speaker 1: know what, we're trying to get back to Ghetto Prisoner man, 951 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: because it's on It still stands today, to mean, you 952 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: know what ghetto Prisoner was about and being a prisoner 953 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: of his society and his government and stuff that we 954 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: live in. I mean, it still stands, you know. So 955 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: we're trying to get back to getting Ghetto Prisoner going. 956 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, we don't actually have the whole the line 957 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: going at this moment, but yeah, we're trying to get 958 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: back to that because you know what he prophesies on 959 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,959 Speaker 1: the album when he's talking about the ghetto prisoners and 960 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: all that, he prophesies what's going on right now. So yeah, 961 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: we're trying to get back to it. You know something, Well, 962 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk about this this 963 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: inhumane situation that they got him in. You know, he's 964 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 1: in an inhumane situation. Twenty three hours a day, really, 965 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty four hours a day in this little 966 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: small peeg pen situation. Yeah, metal pig pen, you know, 967 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: next to Balmer's and all kinds of people that tried 968 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: to you know, the straw the United States of America 969 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: and got less time than he have. Yeah. Well, yes, 970 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: don't don't, don't lose your training. But I just want 971 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: to enter ject real quick. Well, if you look at 972 01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: the social construct of America, Larry, it fits the mode 973 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: of somebody that's trying to destroy America because part of 974 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: America is destroying black people. You know, that's part of 975 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: the social construct. It's the whole black people back. It's 976 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: the circum's to subjugate black people. But go ahead. So 977 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: with him trying to uplift them, he becomes a strong enemy. 978 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: What he's saying, Okay, yeah, I know that. I'm I'm 979 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: suffering from that, so I understand that piece. But it's 980 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: a cold piece man. To have these trained guards, you know, 981 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 1: these different people that's like policing them, watching them twenty 982 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: four seven, and you hadn't still accused him of all 983 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: these untruths that's coming out and they're watching them twenty 984 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 1: four seven. And then they got people like with our 985 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: color that's brainwashed that participate in this legal slavery that 986 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 1: goes on in this place. Man. And uh, I just 987 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, for some reasons for me to not believe 988 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: in my people then to give up on my people, 989 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: and I try to like encourage them wherever they are 990 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: because a lot of them are in these units you know, 991 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 1: such as this, this, this, what's the name of that 992 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 1: place in the A d X our people, and you know, 993 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 1: for them to be in positions and be punks and 994 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: be you know, uh, cooperate and follow the gladlines of 995 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 1: the slave masters and different things like that. I I 996 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: hope and I believe that that that would change, you 997 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean, because that's where the change need 998 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: to take play. It got to be with us, you know, 999 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: committing black on black crime any kind of way, wherever 1000 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: you at. That's gonna be the solution and the beginning 1001 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: to change. For that to stop in the free world, 1002 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: for that to stop behind the bars, for that to 1003 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: stop under the ocean, you know what I mean, even 1004 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: the niggas under the ocean, the black owned black crime 1005 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: have to stop, you know what I mean. So that's 1006 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: the beginning. That's gonna be the real beginning. Man. What 1007 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: was the beginning of this big concert that you did 1008 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: in l A with Drake and Kanye? How did you 1009 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: pull that off? How much did you have in that? 1010 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 1: Larry can speak on that. Um? So what my father 1011 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: seeing that, um that we knew that we knew Kanye 1012 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: and knew that we had some type of connect with 1013 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: with Drake, and seeing that they had it in the 1014 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 1: media with them, you know, going back and forth with 1015 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 1: each other, you know what I mean, he was like 1016 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: one that can't can't something be done about that because 1017 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 1: to see the two biggest stars in the industry going 1018 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,040 Speaker 1: at it and knowing that it was a possibility that 1019 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: he did somebody might get hurt because of what he's 1020 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 1: been seeing with all these other UM entertainers before them, 1021 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,479 Speaker 1: It's like, can't somebody, you know what I mean, say 1022 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 1: something to get this together, because it makes no sense 1023 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 1: for these two individuals at the top of the food 1024 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 1: chain to be in this situation. And you know, it 1025 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: all started from there reaching out to them, trying to 1026 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: get them to you know what I mean, put it 1027 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: into what they was going to what they had going on, 1028 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 1: because it also could have been um it could be 1029 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 1: a dominant effect for all the other individuals that's out 1030 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 1: here down If the two biggest people in the industry stopped, 1031 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, going to each other and cut their beef out, 1032 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: maybe some people that's up under them this beef and 1033 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 1: might see like, well, if these two guys can can 1034 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, silence it and cut it off. Maybe some 1035 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: more people can do it. But there he goes in 1036 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: a situation where he's locked up and locked up for 1037 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 1: trying to be a peacemaker in the community, still trying 1038 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: to make peace, you know what I mean. He just 1039 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: wanted to see that, um. He wanted to make some 1040 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 1: peace and hope that it could be a domino effect 1041 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 1: because to him, it makes no sense for these individuals 1042 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 1: to get themselves in position to make this money, be 1043 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 1: able to make changes, help their families, help their communities, 1044 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: and then wind up dying as if they were still 1045 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: in the streets, you know. So it all just started 1046 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 1: from a vision to to to make peace. How do 1047 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: people with the the loudest voices in our community, you know, 1048 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 1: going at it and you know probably they entourage go 1049 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: hurt each other a lot of times. It's not the 1050 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 1: main individuals, it's the people that's trying to protect them 1051 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 1: because staya people to feed them, you know what I mean. 1052 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: So it just started from you know, just trying to 1053 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 1: bring some peace between them guys, and then we're bringing 1054 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: peace between them guys. It was bringing awareness to his situation, 1055 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: which of course because we didn't get information we needed to. 1056 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance to make all the witness 1057 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: that we wanted to. But it was just something to 1058 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 1: bring awareness to him and let everybody know that he's 1059 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: still alive and the injustice is being done to him, 1060 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: and to also, you know, set the platform for these 1061 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: artists out here in the world too. You know that 1062 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: man make money, Let's have peace. Let's y'all can do 1063 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and y'all making a lot of money. 1064 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Just go ahead and enjoy that quick, you know, lead 1065 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 1: the street stuff alone. The street stuff is where he's 1066 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 1: where he is, you know, you know, you know, well, 1067 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 1: let me file up on that real quick with my brother. 1068 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 1: Is he absolutely right? You know what I mean? But 1069 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I want to I wanna uh uh even compliment what 1070 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 1: he's saying, because if you think about the power of 1071 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 1: a man that planet the seed, you know what I mean. 1072 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 1: This was a big deal that took place where Kanye 1073 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: and Trade was concerned, and he planted the seed behind bars, 1074 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The seed was planted. We 1075 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: fertilized it, we watered it, you know what I mean. 1076 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: But the seed was planted. And if you think about 1077 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 1: if he can plan a seed. Think how much more 1078 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: he can do free? You know what I mean? He 1079 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 1: was able. This was This was for one of the 1080 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: biggest concerts in the world in the history of hip 1081 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 1: hop concerts. And and the purpose behind it was history concerts. Yeah, 1082 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: concerts period, you know what I mean. But the purpose 1083 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, we we gave over half a million dollars 1084 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 1: man to to prison reforms. Don't nobody going nobody to 1085 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 1: town and do no show and give nothing, you know 1086 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. We gave this, you know what I mean, 1087 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 1: to around the world, not just in l A, but 1088 01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: around the world. We gave this we you know, that 1089 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: example was a powerful example starting from the top, you 1090 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: know what I mean, So for them to witness, like 1091 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Larry said, peace being made between then the example for 1092 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: the youth to look up to and whatnot. And to me, 1093 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 1: the most important piece was to bring about focus and 1094 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 1: information to the youth and everybody about the legalities where 1095 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: the law was concerned. The first step aac you know 1096 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: what I mean that that he qualified right now because 1097 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 1: I want the world to see how to judge and 1098 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: how the United in the States of America laws work 1099 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,639 Speaker 1: concerning our people. I want to put them on notice 1100 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 1: that we're watching and and that's why I was on Amazon, 1101 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: and that's why I was in households around the world, 1102 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 1: because we want everybody to look and see what happened. 1103 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Right is there sometimes type of our foundation that that 1104 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 1: people can contact an organization that they can contact to 1105 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: get at the movement or join the movement, you know, 1106 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: and put the movement, donate what you can go to 1107 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 1: them to the Larry Hoover Project and stay abbressed to 1108 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: what we paying attention to and dealing with as far 1109 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 1: as prison reform. You know, at this point, it's nothing 1110 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 1: that the people can do but stay village, villageant right now? 1111 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 1: What um, what's saying that he deserves to come home, 1112 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 1: that he deserves to be a part of society, and 1113 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 1: that we all agree that it's unfair with what's going on. 1114 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 1: Like there's nothing else that um at this point that 1115 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,680 Speaker 1: they can do for him out there like change dot 1116 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 1: orger or something like that. Um. Now, we don't have 1117 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: an active petition at this point, you know. Right now 1118 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: it's all in the hands of the attorneys trying to 1119 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: get something together for the judge. It's all up to 1120 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: the judge. His life depends on how the judge feels 1121 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: about the situation, because as far as the law is concerned, 1122 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: he's clear free to go. But it's all up to 1123 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 1: another man to the side, whether he believes as though 1124 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 1: he deserves it. Yeah, one thing we know is the 1125 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Creator is in control of all the hearts. So whatever 1126 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,480 Speaker 1: he choose to do, what that man Hart is concerned, 1127 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: is gonna be done. But you know, speaking of you know, 1128 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 1: uh my brother Mr. Who was hard, then you can't 1129 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: talk about it hard without talking about Miss Hoop. And 1130 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 1: I would like to uh salute her because in the 1131 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 1: midst of this whole journey, I've been watching her, you know, 1132 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: I've been watching her and I've been seeing up. I've 1133 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 1: been and inspired. I've been motivated, you know because the 1134 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 1: strength that he she has shown where he is concerned 1135 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,560 Speaker 1: and where all attacks, you know what I mean, from 1136 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: the Feds to you name it, and she has withstood 1137 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 1: all the test of times when it came to stand 1138 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 1: down with him. And if it's I call a virtuous woman, right, 1139 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's like the highs of the 1140 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 1: high She's a virtuous woman. And uh, you know, if 1141 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 1: any man would ever dream of having one as strong 1142 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 1: as her than he would hit the lottery. Because you 1143 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 1: know that that I have witness, trust me, she deserved 1144 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 1: all those accolades. Yeah. Yeah, that's a beautiful note right 1145 01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: there too. I was gonna say to continue this. I believe, 1146 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: I believe it's gonna be it's gonna be a father 1147 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 1: that's gonna be going. She's definitely on going. Yeah. Yeah, 1148 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,479 Speaker 1: because we're gonna come back here when he free. You 1149 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,759 Speaker 1: don't have an opportunity to interview. That would be beautiful man. Yeah, 1150 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 1: that'd be crazy man and being insane. Yeah, they thank 1151 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 1: thank you all for coming on the law for life. Life. 1152 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: We're having no other way. Yeah, life Dragon Water today, 1153 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 1: Free Larry who free my father fathers. Yeah. This episode 1154 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: was produced by Aching and brought to you by the 1155 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,439 Speaker 1: Black Effect Podcast Network at Our Heart Radio