1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: a sibling. 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 4: Railvalry, No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth, revelry. 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 5: That's good. 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 6: How was last night? 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: It was amazing. It was really great. It was a 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: great night. It was just like so many amazing women 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 3: and I was it was the Power of Women Variety honors, 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: you know, we were like five of us were honored 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: for the work we do outside of like, you know, acting, 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: and it was great. It was so it was great, 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: It was it was It was I had all my 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: girlfriends there and all I wanted to do is hang 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: with my girlfriends, but there was no time. We were 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: just listening to a bunch of speeches. So we were 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: all like, I wanted to hang and then we couldn't. 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 6: I know, I heard the speech was good. Scotty said 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 6: that you helped you write it. 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the speech was great. The speech was really great. 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: And uh yeah, he's he's a good editor. Scotty's a 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: good editor. Scotty is my brother on on running point. 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 6: King over like the real brother role. The lines are getting. 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: Blurred, but uh yeah, he's uh he helped, he helped 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: me kind of edit, you know, I overwrote it. I 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: but it's such an interesting concept, like to be powerful, 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: Like what is it? What does that mean? You know? 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: Because that's such it's such a polarizing actually concept, Like 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: it's amazing, you need it, it's vital for your life 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: and for your life force. But then it's also so 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: destructive and can be so destructive. Yeah, you know, so 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: like when I started thinking about it, I was like, 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: what a crazy word to you know, the power of women, 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: and like, because the power can be amazing and used 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: in these amazing ways, or it could be like really destructive. 38 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: You know. 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 6: So there's different degrees of power in different contexts of power, 40 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 6: you know. I mean you're a powerful woman in your 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 6: own home, when you're raising your children, you know, you're 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 6: a powerful. 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: Well it is, that's right, but but also like, but 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: there's also so many aspects to it, like to what 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 3: does it mean? To like where does it come from? 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: Someone on the carpet was like, you know, where do 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: you get your power from? I was like, am I 48 00:02:49,760 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: Vagina say that? I was like, I think my vagina. 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: But you know there's something that go with it because 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: like powerful, like they're it's not like a destination, do 51 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like to be powerful isn't 52 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: a destination. It's actually something you have to Like it's 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: used in everyday life, like you know, literally, like how 54 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: people harness their own power is so specific to them. 55 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, some people they're waking up in the 56 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: morning and getting up and having a positive day means 57 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: they've harnessed like a great powerful day. 58 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. Like it can be minuscule or 59 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 6: it can be big, h you know, and sometimes being 60 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 6: powerful can be relinquishing your power because you're not in it, 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 6: that's right. 62 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: Or like what I say, it's like the power of 63 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: women is, which is the ability to be able to 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: connect the head and the heart at the same time, 65 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: you know, because we're so in two women are so 66 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: into live and we're you know, we were empisthetic. We're 67 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 3: nurtures by biologically, you know, by nature, where we lean 68 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: more towards that. 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: When they introduced you, did you walk out to the 70 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 6: power of love? 71 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: I forgot the Rolling Stone song. I was like, this 72 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: is the best Lewis don't take money, don't don't credit. 73 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: That's the best. Oh my god, the power. I was 74 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: listening to another Huey Lewis song the other day, which 75 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: was it came up, It's the best. Someone said something 76 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: and you know, our family, this. 77 00:04:46,760 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 7: Is it love, it is this. 78 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: I know. 79 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: And we had this whole moment with you know, because 80 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: we're wrapping up our second season, and we were laughing 81 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: because every time someone says something, I can think of 82 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: a song, because that's like our family superpower for some reason, 83 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: and I broke into because I think I or someone said, well, 84 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: this is it, and I was like, this is it. 85 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: He is a. 86 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: Song. 87 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 6: I know. 88 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: You're in the car, by the way, do yourself a 89 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: favor and blast some Huey Lewis in the car. 90 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so good. 91 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: It's the best. Huey Lewis is the best. And when 92 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: you saw that documentary about what Quincy when he did. 93 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 6: The that the show, you know, when you did the song. 94 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so great to see Huey Lewis was 95 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: so he was the coolest guy in there. 96 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 5: Love. 97 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: I loved his vibe. 98 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 6: You know. Of course with all these like Whitney Houston 99 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 6: and what am I doing. 100 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: He was so cool, he was so humble. 101 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 6: We have ants and here who's been a friend of 102 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 6: mine for a long long time. Yes, to see if 103 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 6: he feels that he is powerful, perful? 104 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: What's going on? You know what? 105 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 5: I always have to watch my back. Okay, okay, I 106 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 5: have a quick question, Kate, where the hell are you? 107 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 5: Because Ala looks like he's in his cloppet. I mean 108 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: I can see his dirty frog. 109 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: Kate's like an English countryside. 110 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: He look like he's in a dark English manner. 111 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 6: She's actually a universal city of the Harry Potter exhibit. 112 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 6: I'm in my son's room, man like, I don't have 113 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 6: my own space in this house, so I just have 114 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: to find any place that I can settle down in. 115 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 6: And yes, okay it is open. We get to see 116 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 6: what this little bastards were here. Look at this. Look 117 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 6: at this ship. Oh no, oh. 118 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: No, but you know what you're responsible for this me he's. 119 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 6: Just seen he no, no, no live if he wants 120 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 6: to live in ship, he can live in ship. 121 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Well. 122 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 6: And I've known you for a million years, but I 123 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 6: know nothing about your background, Like where did you grow up? 124 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 6: Do you have siblings? Like where how did this all 125 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 6: start first of what kind. 126 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: Of researchers do you have on you your podcast? You 127 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: can have this information, dude, we do. 128 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: We do it. 129 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: It's right here. But but the but we do it 130 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: so that you answer the question. 131 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I can I. 132 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: Can't read it. I can't read I can't read everything 133 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: about you that way. 134 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: So listen. Border raised in Compton, California. 135 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 6: I knew that. 136 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 5: That's that you knew three siblings. I'm the oldest of four, 137 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: three boys and a girl. My sister is the youngest. Unfortunately, 138 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 5: I lost my younger brother fifty five. 139 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: Twenty three, twenty four years ago. 140 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: Damn Yeah, car accident while he was a student in 141 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 5: playing football at West Texas A and M. So it's 142 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: two brothers and a sister. Now me, my my younger 143 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: brother under me and my baby sister. What's crazy? My 144 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: father before he passed, had plus size women clothing stores, right, 145 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 5: and they were called three d's in an angel named 146 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 5: after our children, and the D stand for devils but 147 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 5: to put up. 148 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: So there's basically three devils in an angel of clothing store. 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 6: Genius. 150 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: So that was that. 151 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: That's so cute. Yeah, and your mom, I know, Mom, 152 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: I know mom. 153 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if mom. Mom is 154 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 5: doing well. She's in Carson, California. She is, she's an 155 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 5: actress now, but before then was a telephone operator for 156 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: one of one of the hospitals here and we actually 157 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 5: for the County of Los Angeles. But always wanted to 158 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 5: be an actress and it never worked out for her 159 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: because she's horrible. 160 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: And I made it to. 161 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 5: A position where I could actually give her her chance 162 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 5: just to live out her wildest. 163 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: Dream, which you did. I mean, she's in everything that 164 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: you touch now. 165 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 6: You know what I mean. 166 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm making a point to do that. 167 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's amazing. 168 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but she's doing well. 169 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 5: It's a little too early for her to be in 170 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 5: the Bengal Hall, but it's it's Thursday to be at 171 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 5: a Bengal hall at six o'clock to day. 172 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: How old is your mom? 173 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: She's seventy three. She's eighteen years my senior. 174 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, seventeen seventeen, so she's seventy teen. 175 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: She's only seventeen years, so she's seventy. 176 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: She had you when she was seventeen. Yeah, her on 177 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: your and your siblings, what are the age differences? 178 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Do you know how your your sibling? Sorry, 179 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea. My whole mind is my brother 180 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: told me how old he was. I was like, fuck 181 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 1: you that. 182 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: I don't know how old my siblings are. What do 183 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: you mean? No, I with the age differences, like, are 184 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: you close in are you all close in age? Oh? 185 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: My brothers and I are? I am. I'm fifty five. 186 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 5: I think my brother is turrently fifty this year or no, 187 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 5: no's I'm four years older than my brother. He's turning fifty. 188 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 5: He's twenty fifty one this year. My deceased brother would 189 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 5: be forty nine. But crazy about them. I just tell 190 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 5: you about my parents. They like to make the love 191 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 5: around the same same time every year. My brother's birthday 192 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 5: are November fifteenth and November sixteenth, two years apart. My god, yeah, 193 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: November fifteen, sixteen, two years apart. 194 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 6: They literally it's a it's mating season, the mating season exactly. 195 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 5: And my sister, my brother is forty one. My sister 196 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: my brother brother would have been forty nine. I think 197 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: my sister is forty six. 198 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 6: Oh, like you're pretty close yeah, yeah. 199 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah? And growing up, where do you do? Where'd 200 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: you go to school. 201 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 5: I went to Roosevelt Elementary and Compton Wayley Junior High Compton, 202 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 5: and then I went to the Los Angeles County High 203 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 5: School for the Performing Arts for. 204 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 6: For high Did you know that, I mean early on, 205 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 6: did you know what you wanted to do? I mean 206 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 6: it was probably obviously, you know, nine. 207 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 5: Years old, I knew I wanted to play football for 208 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys. You know, that was my dad's team, 209 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 5: America's team at the time. I wanted to be a lawyer, 210 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: and I wanted to be an actor. And at the 211 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: age of nine, I realized that if I became an actor, 212 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 5: I could be all three of those things and whatever 213 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 5: else I wanted to become in life. 214 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: And so I decided to be an actor. And it 215 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: happened this way. 216 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: My mother was in a production of A Raisin in 217 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 5: the Sun at Compton Community College, and I was in 218 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 5: the back of. 219 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: The theater with my two brothers. 220 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: We were just playing as my mother was on stage 221 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: and rehearsing rehearsing, and I just happened to look up 222 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: on stage one day, went from playing with our toys 223 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: or whatever we were doing, just having to look up, 224 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 5: and I saw them doing anything on stage, and I said, 225 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 5: that is what I'm going to do with the rest 226 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 5: of my life. And I went back to playing with 227 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 5: my brothers and here we are, forty years later. 228 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 6: What had been? But what was it? What was the thing? 229 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: You know? 230 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 6: It was it? Just the did it? Did it correlate 231 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 6: to you growing up to childhood to sort of, you know, 232 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 6: becoming something else, to immersing yourself in something different. 233 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: I also think it's interesting that you were little and 234 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: it was Raisin in the Sun, which is pretty heavy, Yeah, 235 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: really incredibly heavy, and you're like, I'm going to do that. 236 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: First off, when I look back, I was like, what 237 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: kind of protection was my mother? 238 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 5: I didn't know it was a comedy, but but yeah, 239 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 5: yeah it was. 240 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: It was that, And. 241 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 5: I don't know, Oliver, you know, I realized that at 242 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 5: a very early age, I realized that my energy was 243 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 5: put on this earth to entertain. I was able to 244 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 5: recognize that that, you know, this is why I'm here. 245 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: Called it naivete or. 246 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: Foolishness, but this is all I ever prepared to do 247 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 5: in life. And since that moment looking up on stage, 248 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: I put myself in position to learn to study, to 249 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 5: do anything, and any chance I got to have a 250 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 5: captive audience. 251 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: I took it. Be it. My pastor wanted. 252 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 5: Me to sing his favorite song, Amazing Grace at church, 253 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 5: even though I couldn't sing, I got up and sang 254 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 5: in front of the congregation. If there was a spelling 255 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 5: bee at school, I was the first one to join. 256 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 5: If there was somebody that the teacher asked to read aloud, 257 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: I always raised my hand. Any chance I got to 258 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 5: have a captive audience, be in front of somebody and 259 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: to do what I wanted to do, I did. And 260 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 5: I started doing that at nine years old. I was like, yo, 261 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 5: this is it. It wasn't an adrenaline thing. It wasn't like 262 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: I want to be a star, Like, no, this is 263 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 5: why I'm here. I'm supposed to be. I'm supposed to 264 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: have a captive audience. 265 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: Did you do theater a little bit? 266 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 5: A little bit, but not until like high school when 267 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: we were doing plays in college, But before then, you know, 268 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: found myself in little things. I always found an acting class. 269 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 5: I always found a class to hone the craft, and 270 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 5: that started maybe around eleven twelve. 271 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: Were you did you study with anybody? Do you still? 272 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: Do you still study with people or do. 273 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: I haven't in a while. I used to take a 274 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: class this is this gym by the name of Tony Greca. 275 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: I would take his classes and just things that I 276 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 5: did in in in school and whatnot. But he was 277 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 5: the only, uh a private coach that that I had 278 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 5: in my career. 279 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 6: Going back just the second growing up, like, what was 280 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 6: your what was your household? 281 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Like? 282 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 6: Was there a lot of freedom? You know? Was it 283 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 6: strict was or was like go go do your thing, 284 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 6: you know, just bed before dark types? 285 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: No, it was free man. Uh. 286 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 5: You know, you know, I grew up in a time 287 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 5: where I was the last key kid. You know, I'm 288 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 5: the oldest of four children, so it was you know, 289 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: I I was like the second parent, you know, getting 290 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 5: getting my younger brothers uh from from daycare and all that, 291 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: and then just having the house to ourselves growing up. 292 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: And I had the Yale house key on a shoe street, 293 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: you know that I would give my brother and sisters. 294 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: I come home, unlocked the door, get in the. 295 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 5: House, lock the door, and then we would just you know, 296 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 5: we would have our freedom to until my mom came 297 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 5: home and tell my dad came home from work. So yeah, 298 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 5: and my mother, you know, again, this was all she 299 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: ever wanted to do, so she was very supportive of me. 300 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: In the arm. 301 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: That's so great. You did any of your other siblings? 302 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: Is everybody pretty artistic? Like or leaned towards the arts. 303 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 5: My brother who is the c had a he had 304 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 5: a knack for art, you know, so this is god 305 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: thirty thirty thirty five years ago. My brother would make 306 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 5: art out of aluminum for it, you know, which was 307 00:17:51,720 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: just amazing. Like he would take family portraits and we 308 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 5: purchased them, but but create a family portrait out the 309 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 5: full wow figures of people out of aluminum foil and 310 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: paint them. And I always wanted to. I always thought 311 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: that it was so intricated, it so beautiful that my 312 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 5: me and my other brother was like, yo, man, this 313 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 5: needs to be on display. 314 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: You know this, people need to see this. 315 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 5: And so for Christmas and his birthday, his birthdays, all 316 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: he wanted was a luminum foil just. 317 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: To create things. Man. He created, uh. 318 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: The Starship Enterprise one day and that blew my mind 319 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 5: and wow, brother made the star Starship Enterprise. 320 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 6: You still have those pieces? 321 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: I have, I have I have a few pieces he made. 322 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: Make a piece of my daughter Uh, you know you have. 323 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: My baby was maybe not even to maybe eighteen months, 324 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: so you take those little cute portraits, sent him a 325 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 5: picture of it. 326 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: While he was in uh going to college, and uh 327 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: he made my daughter. 328 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 5: He brought her picture to life in this three b 329 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 5: thing and painted her and all to give her pigtails 330 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: and everything. 331 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so me and my brother that was it. 332 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 5: The other but my other brother, he's a trauma nurse 333 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: at Martin Luther King Hospital and uh in the er. 334 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: And my my sister, she works at at another hospital 335 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 5: in Bility. 336 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: When did you what was your first like job job? 337 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh, my first. 338 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 5: Job job, my first job job. But I got I 339 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 5: thought as a as as an entertainer's honor. I was 340 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: Captain Craving's I was at Howard University and this gourmet 341 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 5: dessert delivery company. 342 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: Needed a mascot, so they they came to Howard. I 343 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: don't know how I ended up at Howard. 344 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 5: And they wanted an actor, and so they came into 345 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: the School of Fine Arts and they said what they 346 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 5: were doing. 347 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: So I met with these guys. 348 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 5: And I got the gig and I shot this little 349 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 5: uh commercial for them, uh in d C. This little 350 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 5: regional thing for them, and they loved it so much 351 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 5: that they made me the mascot. But my job was 352 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 5: actually this was this was this was Uber East before 353 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 5: there was Uber East. I used to do. I had 354 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: to deliver the the dessert to to these offices. I 355 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 5: was like, yo, man, I'm not acting. I was like, yo, 356 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: I'm a I'm I'm deliver. But it was it was 357 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 5: my first because I was in full costume. I was 358 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 5: Captain Cravings. That was my name, Cravings. 359 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: I had on a black pair of tights. I had 360 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: on some Chuck Taylors. 361 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 5: Uh. 362 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: Fortunately there's no pictures to cooperation. 363 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: I was going to say, where can we find these again? 364 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: I had some bedazzled Chuck Taylors. I had on a 365 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 5: white Cravings catering sweatshirt. I had on a pink cake. 366 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 5: I had on uh, some silver, a silver long ranger 367 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 5: mass rhymestone and off to match. And on the back 368 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 5: of the cake it said Captain Cravings and it said 369 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: if you ever need to be saved, dial seven. 370 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: Nine seven Crave. And I had to fucking that was 371 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: my first acting bad. 372 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: Did you all just show up delivering things in the outfit? 373 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: That was the only way I could deliver the things. 374 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: You must have gotten so laid in the outs, I said, 375 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: if you. 376 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: Ever I said, if anybody ever orders this from Howard University, 377 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 5: it will never be delivered by me. 378 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 379 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: That's a good that's a good person. 380 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: That was my That was my first act gate now 381 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: my first professional gid. 382 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: What like what you got your sade card? 383 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? On my resume? Was I wanted? It was a 384 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: Roger Foreman film called Alien Avengers. 385 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 5: Uh. 386 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: And I was in it with George Wynn And I'll 387 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: never forget this. 388 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I went to say 389 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 5: goodbye to George and he was sitting out on the 390 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 5: step of him. 391 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: We had these double bangers. He was sitting on the 392 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: step of his double banger with an ice chest full 393 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: of beer and I was like, oh shit, it's real. 394 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: It's really the guy for Gears. 395 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 5: I had a beer when George went at the end 396 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 5: of the day, Alien Avengers, Roger Foreman film was uh. 397 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: And were you were you hyped or was this just huge? 398 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 6: Oh? 399 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: It was huge for me? 400 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 6: Yeah? 401 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what I mean? 402 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was it was huge for me. 403 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 5: It was it was one day's worth the work. Yeah, 404 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 5: you know, maybe two scenes in something really campy. But 405 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 5: it was fun and I got to work with some 406 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 5: great people. And I get to say that was my 407 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 5: claim the same That was how I got my sag guard. 408 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 6: What was the gig though? That really made you believe 409 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: and understand, like, oh shit, like this is it? This 410 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 6: is now, I'm I'm I'm on my way here, you 411 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 6: know what I mean. 412 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: My second gig it was a half hour comedy with 413 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 5: ll WHOJ and Debbie Allen on NBC. 414 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, in the House, in the House. That's right. 415 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: That was your second gig. 416 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: That was that was that was That was my second gig. 417 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: And that was what year was that? 418 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: Nineties? 419 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: That was ninety five. 420 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 5: And and here's the thing. I was the first person 421 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 5: in my friend group to have a kid. And I 422 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: went to my boys. I went to my boys to 423 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 5: tell them. Now, mind you, when I went to my 424 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: boys place, this was a place that had seven grown 425 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 5: men living in a one bedroom, one bathroom apartment. 426 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: And we and we affectionately called it the cave. So 427 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: I went to the cave, you know. 428 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 5: Hang out with my boys and let them know that 429 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: I was uh going to want to be a dad. 430 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 5: And my boy had in blast ended up becoming my 431 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: writing partner and creating my very first sitcom, all about 432 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 5: the Anderson's on the WB We were we. 433 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: Went out on the breezeway and he was like, what 434 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: are you going to do? 435 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: And it was just crazy. I was like, I got 436 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 5: to get me a TV show. And we laugh about 437 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 5: it now because you know, he said, what are you 438 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 5: going to do? I looked at dead and I said, 439 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 5: I got I got to give me a television show. 440 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 5: And he walked off and two weeks later I got 441 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: a television show. 442 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 6: Amazing, dude, but. 443 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: It was it was. It was in the house. I 444 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: did the first episode in November. My daughter was born. 445 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: I did the first episode November nineteen ninety five. 446 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: My daughter was born February sixth, nineteen ninety six, and 447 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 5: the day, the morning of February seventh, I'm laying with 448 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 5: my daughter on my chest and I'm in a refiner 449 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 5: in the room, and my whole thing was is you 450 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 5: lived to with your mother's heartbeat for the last nine months. 451 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 5: The first heartbeat you're going to live with outside of 452 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 5: your mother is mine. Though I had her sleeping on 453 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 5: my chest and I don't think I slept that entire night. 454 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: I just stared at her. And at six point thirty 455 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: that morning, my cellphone. It's my mom. She said, where 456 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: are you at. I was like, me where I met? 457 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: You know, I'm at the house. You know, I just 458 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: had a baby. She said, what NBC is looking for you? 459 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: I was like, for what? To go to work on? 460 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 6: What? 461 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 5: And usually back on that show you did, But with 462 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 5: the rapper, I was like, in the house. He said yeah, 463 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 5: I said when she said eight third and I was like, 464 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 5: how do you know this? 465 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: Well? 466 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 5: They dropped this back in the day when they used 467 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 5: to drop off scripts at your crib. They dropped off 468 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 5: a script last night and it says you have to 469 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 5: be there at eight thirty to day and I was like, okay. 470 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 5: So hung the phone, kiss my kiss my daughter, kissed 471 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 5: my lady and said, Daddy gotta go to work. And 472 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 5: I drove into work with pictures. I had Polaroid pad, 473 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 5: a POLLOI camera so and I had another camera. 474 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: So on the way to work, I went to one 475 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: of those one. 476 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 5: Hour photo map places and I had the pictures delivered 477 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 5: and I showed them at the table, reading with pictures 478 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 5: of my newborn baby and thanking them for this because 479 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 5: my baby was born the last night, not even twelve hours. 480 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: I mean, but fatherhood must have shaped so much of 481 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: your career because you had her young, So it must 482 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: have been I mean, I would assume driving like definitely 483 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: a motivate, a driving force. 484 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 5: No, it was it was it got me focused, you know, 485 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 5: because at that time I was I was twenty five 486 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 5: at the time. 487 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: Young. It's like, you know, I can, I can, I can. 488 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: I can survive on my own, I can, I can, 489 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: I can make it on my own. But the moment 490 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: my lady. 491 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 5: Came home and told me she was pregnant with our kid, 492 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 5: that that changed it everything for me because now I'm 493 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 5: responsible for people. 494 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 6: You know, I can't go. 495 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 5: Through life it's like you're just figuring it out on 496 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 5: the fly and as I go along, because I'm no 497 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 5: longer a solo passenger. 498 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: You know. 499 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 5: I people with me now that you know, are depending 500 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: on me, and I'm responsible for uh and and and. 501 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: Having my daughter. 502 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 5: Got me focused on what it was that I needed 503 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 5: to do as an artist. And once I got focused, 504 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 5: it was just crazy. I realized that everything was always 505 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 5: right before me, you know. I was just focused on 506 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 5: other ship and becoming a father, open my eyes, so 507 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 5: all the things that I needed to be doing in 508 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: order to be successful at This is my dream. 509 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: This is all I ever wanted to do with life. 510 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: This is all I ever wanted. 511 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: Did you? 512 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: Did you always want to do comedy or did you 513 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: it was that your focus? 514 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: Or was it just to do what is an amazing 515 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: dramatic actor? 516 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 6: No? 517 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: I know, but but but but you've really made millions 518 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: and millions of people laugh, you know. 519 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: Which is. 520 00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 5: So? 521 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: I wonder like, what was your Did you come into 522 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: it wanting to do more of one thing? 523 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 6: No? 524 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 5: I just wanted to come into it and be the 525 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 5: hardest and offer what I had. Comedy was was a 526 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: way in. You know, I'm funny by nature. I you know, 527 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 5: I get it from you know, it came from inside 528 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 5: my home. 529 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 6: I get it. 530 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 5: I got it from my mother. You know, I got 531 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: it from my friends growing up and realized that I'm 532 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 5: I'm pretty good at this. Now. 533 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: If you were to talk to my friends, they're like, 534 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: Anthony was never funny. He was never funny. 535 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 5: They're like, but I will tell you this, he did 536 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: always give you that one that would drop you to 537 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 5: your knee. We never knew when we were going to 538 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 5: get that one, but he would always hit you with one. 539 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 5: They were like, oh shit, he's funny. But up until 540 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 5: then I was nothing, and they take pride and. 541 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: Funny. It just happened. 542 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 6: I'm me go back for a second, because when you 543 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 6: had the kid or your wife was pregnant, you're on 544 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 6: the breezeway and you said, all right, I got to 545 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 6: get a job, and then two weeks later you're getting 546 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 6: a job. Where do you stand with your sort of spirituality, 547 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 6: with your idea, with this idea of sort of the 548 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 6: universe of working hard to get lucky. I mean, where 549 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 6: are you with that generally great question? 550 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 5: I believe it's uh And I'm going to be all 551 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 5: over the place with this answer, but it's going to 552 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 5: make sense. It's all about a manifestation, you know, and 553 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 5: and seeing those things for me. For seeing those things, 554 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: I never I stopped wanting for things in life a 555 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 5: long time ago because I realized I would always want 556 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 5: that girl, I would always want that car, will always 557 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 5: want to take that trip. I would always want I 558 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 5: would want something and I would never obtain it. It 559 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 5: was always just outside of my grasp. And I realized 560 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: a long time ago that in wanting for something, all 561 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 5: I did was create a want for it. I never 562 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 5: said that it was mine. I never claimed it as 563 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 5: my own. I never saw myself having it. I just 564 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 5: saw myself wanting those things. And I started to change 565 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 5: the way that I thought of things. And you know, 566 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 5: for meetings and auditions, I have my own little personal 567 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 5: mantra that I would say that I claimed this as 568 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 5: my own. 569 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: If it's meant for me to have, and if it's 570 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: meant for me, it's meant for me. And if it's not, 571 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: it's going to go to Kate. 572 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: If it's not, I can't be mad. And I get 573 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 5: that because it wasn't mine. So if I don't get 574 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 5: the gig, if I don't get that it wasn't mine 575 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 5: to get that, that's that I learned that there's a 576 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 5: higher power that we are connected to. And I realized 577 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 5: this at a barely early age. I realized this when 578 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 5: I was nine years old. I realized the power that 579 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 5: we have, but in particular the power that I had. 580 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 5: And I tell people all this all the time. I 581 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: was like, it's so simple that it's difficult because you 582 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 5: can't believe that it's this simple. 583 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: To tap into that, into the universe and claim and ask. 584 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 5: In all of that, I would always be up in 585 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 5: Canada making these movies Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton. 586 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: All these entre y'all. 587 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 5: And then one thing I just said, you know, I 588 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 5: said to myself, I said I want to be out 589 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 5: of the country and make a movie. 590 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,239 Speaker 1: And I kept going back up to Canada. And then 591 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, hold. 592 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 6: On, it's not that we're going to go further. 593 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 594 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm not be specific in my ask 595 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 5: and it goes into specificity, right, And so I was like, well, 596 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 5: you know what, let me change how I asked for 597 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 5: these things. And I specifically, specifically said the next movie 598 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 5: I make, I will need a passport to enter the 599 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: country and it will be overseas. 600 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: And I say all that because. 601 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 5: At that time, all you needed was a birth certificate 602 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 5: to get into Canada and you just drive right up 603 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 5: and you can be there. And and I really, I said, 604 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 5: I was like, I keep asking for uh, you know, 605 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 5: to make this, make movies out of the country, and 606 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 5: I keep ending up in Canada. I got what I 607 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 5: was asking for, but it was coming to me in 608 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 5: its most general form, so it wasn't how I needed. 609 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: It, how I wanted it. 610 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: Smash cut to you in like Greenland. 611 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 5: So if I specifically made my ass the next movie 612 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 5: I make will be overseas, and I will need a 613 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 5: passport to into the country. In the next move I 614 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 5: make will be out of the country. I will need 615 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 5: a passport you into the country, and it will be overseas. 616 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 5: Three days later, after saying that, my manager calls and says, hey, am, 617 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 5: Jerry Bruckheimer is doing this movie in Australia, shoots for 618 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 5: six months. You're in a very short list. It's called 619 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 5: down Under. He wants to meet with you down Under 620 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 5: then becomes Kangaroo Jack. So I go into my meeting 621 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 5: with Jerry O'Connell, who's already been cast in the movie. 622 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: We go meet and we do a few scenes. Before 623 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 5: I go into my scene. 624 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: What do I do? 625 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 5: I say my mantra, I claim this as my own. 626 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 5: If it's meant for me to have, I go in 627 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 5: there have one of the best auditions I have in 628 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 5: my life. A day or two later, I get a 629 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 5: call Anthony Jerry Brock Jerry Bruckhember loves you. The job 630 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 5: is yours now I also have to I also want 631 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 5: to back up when I when I made the claim 632 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 5: I never won the passport. I made the claim, uh 633 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 5: that the next movie I make will be shot over seas. 634 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 5: The very next day, I went to the passport office 635 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 5: and I got a passport to application. I filled it 636 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 5: up and I went through the process of getting my 637 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 5: very first passport, and then I get the call that 638 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 5: Jerry Bruckhammer wants to meet me to shoot this movie. 639 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 6: Wow, you're a manifestor well, I was about I was 640 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 6: about to say that, So we we've actually had people 641 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 6: on science, scientists who believe in manifestation. But it's not like, oh, 642 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 6: I want two feet of snow so my skiing is good. 643 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 6: It's deeper, and there's more physiological, actual science based and 644 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 6: backed sort of information on why manifesting can actually work, 645 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 6: you know, and for you. And I think this is 646 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 6: really important because I was always skeptical about it. But 647 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 6: I'm wondering for you, how did that? How does that 648 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 6: work itself out? Do you just speak it out loud 649 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 6: to the universe? Is that kind of how you do it? 650 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 6: Or do you get quiet or do you write it down? 651 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 6: Or what is your process with that? 652 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: My process is. 653 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 5: All three album Okay, I speak it out loud because 654 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 5: words are powerful. Yeah, you know, so that's why I 655 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 5: watched what I started to watch what I say with 656 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 5: regards to negative things, not even about myself, but just 657 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 5: putting negative energy out. 658 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 6: I got to work on that ship. Yeah. 659 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: I speak it out loud, I speak it in silence. 660 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 5: I write it down and in my other room over here, man, 661 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 5: I have a bag of magazines and. 662 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm putting together a vision board. So I do that 663 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: as well. 664 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 3: You know you do vision boards. I love that they 665 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: did this thing that if you have a vision board 666 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 3: or or just the very thing you look at or 667 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 3: you read or you focused on right before you go 668 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 3: to sleep as one of like the best tools of 669 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 3: manifesting because your brain, that's what your brain starts, that's 670 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 3: what it basically like rests with that thought. 671 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: But you know what, kid, I need I need to 672 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: start doing it. 673 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 5: I you know, sometimes I would think about those things 674 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: and all that, but I've never really just looked at things. 675 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: Like that before I went to sleep. 676 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll take something and I'll be like, okay, right 677 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 3: before I go to bed, you know, because the phone 678 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: is just such a fucker, Like it's so awful for us, 679 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: you know, So I sleep out. I've gotten very ritualistic 680 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: about my night because I believe in the power of 681 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 3: words as well. I believe in the power of what 682 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: you're putting out and all of the positive output, you know. 683 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: Like I'm the kind of person probably like you or 684 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 3: if my friends are talking shit, they turn to me 685 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: and they're like, and I'm like, what do you I 686 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 3: don't do that. I don't know how to do that. 687 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm someone someone could be awful to me 688 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 3: and I could be like, they're probably having a bad day, 689 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 3: you know. But but yeah, so I started doing that 690 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: sort of visual thing, like what do I want to 691 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 3: be putting out? 692 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: Like what what? 693 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 6: What? What do I What am I looking for or 694 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 6: what am I Yeah, it's important, it's work. You have 695 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 6: to work with that because I'm not. I'm just kind 696 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 6: of speaking for myself. But it feels like default is 697 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 6: negativity in a way. You know. Our default is fear 698 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 6: from a primal place. Yes, we had, it's our condition 699 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 6: because we that's how we survived as humanity survived essentially 700 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 6: was fear, because that's how we you know, succeeded or 701 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 6: were able to save ourselves. 702 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: For anyone who's able to work in this business as 703 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 3: an actor or as an artist and actually make some 704 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: kind of living doing it. It might not be their 705 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 3: full living, but some kind of living doing it is 706 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: a privilege. It's an honor because it's so rare. And 707 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 3: for every one great artist, everyone, great musician, everyone, great actor, 708 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: there's a thousand of them just as good that have 709 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 3: never had the opportunity. 710 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. This is what Brewer said. The director Kae 711 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 6: just in a movie called Song Sung Blue. By the way, 712 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 6: it's fucking amazing. She's going to be nominated for all 713 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 6: the awards. She is. She's incredible. It's really amazing. But 714 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 6: Craig Brewer, you know, do you. 715 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: Know Craig Craig wrote and directed Hustle, Hustle and Flow. 716 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's right, Yeah, of course. 717 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. You wait till you see the movie. 718 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, he's in his pocket. He gave a speech 719 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 6: at at the premiere, and that's kind of what he 720 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 6: was saying, just you know about all of the other 721 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 6: artists out there who have not hit who are equally 722 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 6: as good, if not better than some of the major 723 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 6: players in our business. 724 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly how it has been. 725 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 5: You know. We all have our own individual journeys, you know, 726 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 5: and I can't when we can't our journey to the 727 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 5: next person, we have no idea what it is that 728 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 5: they've gone through, you know, or what they're going through 729 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 5: in the moment. All I can be concerned about is 730 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 5: what I'm going through and what it means to me. 731 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 5: Because if everything that I see that's out there, if 732 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 5: I've claimed it as my own and I've been told 733 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 5: that it is mine, I am going to get all 734 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 5: that has been told is mine. And it has nothing 735 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 5: to do with greed or anything. It's just like, no, 736 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 5: I was told that that is mine right there, that 737 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 5: is mine, right there, that is mine. 738 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to get it all. Now. 739 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 5: The other pieces that I leave behind, I'm leaving behind 740 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 5: because those aren't meant for me. I was told to 741 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 5: just because I have the ability to take it all. 742 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: I'm not taking it all. 743 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 5: I'm taking what was told was mine because that is 744 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 5: for somebody else, Just like somebody came into this room 745 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 5: and into this world and took everything that was supposed 746 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 5: to be meant for them. They left these things behind 747 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 5: because they were meant for me. And that's how it is. 748 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 6: It's cool. 749 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, best believe all the ship that I see that 750 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 5: has my name tag on coming, it's coming with me, 751 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 5: and I'm not going to leave it behind. 752 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: It's coming with me. 753 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: I love it. 754 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 5: It's like, oh, that's my favorite piece. Yeah, that's your 755 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 5: favorite piece, but my piece. 756 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 6: I love it. 757 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 2: That's inspiring. 758 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: Man, this has been my piece. 759 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it. 760 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: You can come with me and admire it all that 761 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: you want, and I don't mind sharing it with you 762 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: and know, but best believe that's. 763 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 6: My barbecue I have. I have two triggers. I have 764 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 6: a green egg, I have Santa Maria grill. Like I 765 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 6: fucking love smoking and barbecuing, okay, and I'm decently good 766 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 6: at it. 767 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: He is he wanted to get really yeah, I wanted to. 768 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 6: I was more of the old school, you know, with 769 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 6: what you're doing your building, you know, queues out of 770 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 6: barrels and and really doing those like two stoves what 771 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 6: it called the the offsets, you know. Yeah, and then 772 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 6: I found the trigger. And I know it seems like cheating, 773 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 6: but it is so easy I can. I can set 774 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 6: it and forget it and it's fucking amazing. 775 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 5: Okay, you know, things are made to help people move 776 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 5: along what they gotta do, man, and I love it. Look, 777 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 5: I got into barbecuing because my dad was the youngest 778 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 5: of sixteen born in Little Rock, Arkansas. 779 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: Born on them. 780 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 3: That's where our feeling's from. Yeah, my mom's did and 781 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 3: my grandpa is aroundpa that's that's where. 782 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 5: That's where my dad's from, Little Rock, Arkansas, youngest of 783 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 5: sixteen on the farm. 784 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 6: Wow. 785 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 5: So you know, fucking his brother was an Irish twin. 786 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 5: He was he's eleven months younger than my uncle a dad. 787 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 5: So they were fifty sees and joined them to hit. 788 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 5: So my uncle moved out to La my father followed 789 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 5: him and uh and so my my dad would make 790 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 5: his own uh barbecue pits out of fifty five gallon drums, 791 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 5: welled them himself. 792 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: And so that's what I grew up in. 793 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 5: And so have this opportunity to uh to do this 794 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 5: this barbecue brand with with with Cedric the entertainer, you know, 795 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 5: my good friend, and we're both chefs. We both love 796 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 5: to eat, we both loved to cook. And every time 797 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 5: we take the Fellas golf trip, Sat and I are 798 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 5: the ones in the kitchen cooking for the group. Yes, yeah, yeah, 799 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 5: that's that's best best best best best friend you could 800 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 5: have in your life. Uh to best business partner, uh 801 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 5: and three just an all around great guy. And so 802 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 5: we had the opportunity to, uh you know, start this 803 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 5: barbecue lifestyle. 804 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: Brand and and we did. We have you know, we 805 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: have three seasonings. We have a midnight smoke, we have 806 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: something we call the m v P. 807 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 5: And we have a lemon our take on lemon pepper 808 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 5: we called the lemon Stepper and uh and we and 809 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 5: we have two sauces. 810 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: All day and our caroline line, our mustard bade son. 811 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 3: Well you said, can I can I send you both? 812 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: You both can get a package of everything. 813 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 3: You have to. 814 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 6: Uh you know, when did you start barbecuing? I mean 815 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 6: when did you start cooking? 816 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, man barbecue as a kid. Yeah, my dad. 817 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: So my dad did. Every weekend. My dad would he 818 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: would go fishing down along Bach. He would come home. 819 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 5: He would barbecue fish, smoke fish, barbecue rings. I mean 820 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 5: he's the bigger as country boy. 821 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 6: That's what I do. 822 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: You know, I have a boat. I catched fish like 823 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 2: my face off. That's my passion. 824 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, those were thats how I grew up so 825 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: young teenager. 826 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 5: Father taught me how to smoke, how to smoke, how 827 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 5: to cook with wood charcoal. Uh, and so it started 828 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 5: at an early age. 829 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: And I love it. I love it. 830 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: Oh that's so fun. I want to do a barbecue party. 831 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 3: Can we have a barbecue party? 832 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: We have a barbecue budding. 833 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 5: Come on, I'm sure we all between the three of us, 834 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 5: we have some of the best backyards. 835 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 3: Barbecue's barbecue party ever? 836 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 6: Don't you have? 837 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: Do you have a show about barbieq? 838 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 5: We we started great, said, and I created a show 839 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 5: called The Kings of Barbecue basically to bring attention to 840 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 5: us starting and building a business. 841 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 6: Got it. 842 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 5: So we were on an a four year while we 843 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 5: did that, and we're about to go back into production 844 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 5: and put it on YouTube and shoot these things that 845 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 5: the air workings of you know, two best friends in 846 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 5: Hollywood starting a business. 847 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know. 848 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: We we we were able to open a restaurant at 849 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: the at the Westfield Ciphy City Mall called Ac Barbecue. 850 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 6: That's right up in the food court there. 851 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: We opened up in May. Uh do it pretty well? 852 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: Uh? 853 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: And just having a great time doing and traveling the world. 854 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 6: Fun. 855 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny. Because I have a deck. 856 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 6: I created a deck for I wanted to do a 857 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 6: sort of a low budget backyard barbecue show in my 858 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 6: actual home and so so it's almost like this reality 859 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 6: unscript of me cooking, but people come out. I had 860 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 6: it sort of formulated where you get these other chefs 861 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 6: coming in, but it's just very sort of off the cuff. 862 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 6: You're in my house and I am not a professional. 863 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 6: So it's definitely about the experience of getting. 864 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: There for an album. 865 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, I love I love it. There's so much 866 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 6: joy in cooking and when people eat your food, and 867 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 6: like it's in lives that do that for me, you know, 868 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 6: like fishing and there's certain things in your kids. But 869 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 6: when you cook something amazing and your family is eating 870 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 6: it and they're like, holy shit, this is unreal. There's 871 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 6: a pride. There's something that happens, some locksy toes, some 872 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 6: dopamine that comes out where you're just like, oh my god. 873 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 6: There's an addiction to it. You love that fucking feeling. 874 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 6: That's what I love about it. 875 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: I love it. 876 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 5: It's crazy. At the end of at the end of 877 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 5: the day, I don't find myself eating anything. I don't 878 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 5: either do I just find myself feeding people and just enjoying. 879 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I've been enjoying what I was able to prepare 880 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: for them. That, yeah, that's my thing. 881 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 6: Because they're like, you want to gonna make it, You're 882 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 6: gonna make a play, And I'm like, no, I mean 883 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 6: I'll pick a little bit, like you know, yeah, well 884 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 6: we got to cook together, dude, looking forward to it. 885 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's play some golf too. 886 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 6: By the way, my kids, my boys became obsessed with golf, 887 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 6: which is got back into the game. So I'm playing 888 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 6: all of our kids. 889 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 3: It's like crazy, Hey, Oliver, bring them to the tournament, man, 890 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 3: if you always yeah, go over sometimes. 891 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: And then I'm working around with the kids. Now that 892 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: I know the kids play, bring them to the tournament. 893 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 6: Let's do it. 894 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 3: Wait, wasn't wasn't such in the desert? He was in 895 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 3: the desert. 896 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, third week of make This would be my uh 897 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: seventh or eighth year. 898 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta I gotta make it this year. 899 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: You gotta do it, allie fun all right, it was 900 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: a great conversation. 901 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 3: Yes, we'll see you, Sam, you got it all right, right. 902 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 6: I love that man. 903 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 2: He's the best, the best, always has been the most wonderful. 904 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 6: Energy I know. 905 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 3: Every time I see him just always brings that incredible. 906 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 2: Energy, killing it. 907 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,479 Speaker 6: He's just he's just always doing cool ship and he's 908 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 6: so great. Yeah, Hustler works hard. All Right, I gotta go. 909 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 6: I have a pitch that I'm gonna be late for now. 910 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 2: I love you. 911 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 6: I know it's fun talking to you.