1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: with our radio. Hello everyone, welcome to the almost Famous podcast. 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: It is Ashley and it is Ben, and we're back. 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: We're back, and today we are talking hometowns. We're actually 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: gonna jump right into the recap today. It's UM top 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: four somehow already. And I actually loved this episode, Ben, 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: This was an episode I didn't find myself on my 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: phone for you. I love this episode two. Actually, I 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: think you'll know what I'm talking about. But I think 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: this is probably the first time I could be wrong. 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Somebody on here you could question on it. But it's 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: the first time in a year and a half to 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: two years that I've said a tier watching The Badger. 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: I think the last time was Michael a um which 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: we obviously have an in depth episode coming up with 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: him just in a couple of days here. It's gonna 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: be really exciting. But I shed a tier during the episode, Ashley, 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: which is always the sign of a good episode for me. Which, wait, 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: let me guess what parts um. Okay, so Susie's not 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Susie's uh, Serene, I don't know, I don't could. I 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: don't think you've eldn't. Oh was it between Rachel and 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: her dad and her dad crying? No, it was when 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Gabby's dad showed up with the signs. I mean that 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: was a little a little much, but like a little Yeah, 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: he wanted to be there, She wanted him to be there. Uh, 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: and there he is shows up and you just see 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: her face like breakdown and want to hug him. And 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: it just made me feel like, hey, how many other 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: families can relate to that right now? Right? I mean 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: like different circumstances, but how many families want to be 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: together and see their loved ones and they haven't been 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: able to and uh, and this is obviously one of 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: those moments. I don't know, it got me. It was 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: really cute. Obviously it was an illusion or a reference 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: to um love actually with the que cards. But Ben 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the only thing that I know it was like cute 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: scene stagey. But if he was able to show up 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: with the car, couldn't we have gotten Clayton out and 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: he could have just sat there with the window rolled 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: down and he could have been like, hey, Clayton, I'm 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: her dad. Let's have a brief talk right now. Yeah. No, 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, there's like hey, if you can show 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: me a car. However, I do think, yeah, there's it's 44 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's a little stagey because you're like, hey, 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: he could have done this, he could have done that. 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: But just her face, Yeah, like you know what it's 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: like actually to be away from your family for so 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: many months, to be missing them, to be excited to 49 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: see him, then to find out that they can't be there, 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: to be a part of this experience that you're so 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: pumped to show them, like you know how disappointing like 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: that would feel and be. And so just to see 53 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: her face that he was there, like made know maybe 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: just I related with it a little bit um because 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: I just remember like coming up from the airport after 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: my time on The Bachelor and seeing my parents standing 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: at the end in the in like the baggage claim area, 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: and just running out to him and give him a hug, 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: Like that moment is just so special. So it got me, 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: It got me good. I did love this episode. But 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: let's start with Susie's hometown. Susie's hometown takes place in Virginia, 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Ashley take it Away. So Susie's hometown was the most 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: forgettable for me, but I just but Susie herself like, 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: isn't forgettable? Um trying to think about, like what the 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: standout parts of her stand out parts of her date? 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: She Oh, my god, Ben, like, how am I even drawing? 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm like drawing a blanket? What they did like four 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: hours ago? Oh ju jitsu with the martial art that 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: I cannot say the word jus yeah he he struggled 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: at saying it to Um. I thought it was a 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: cute hometown. I thought it showed something about her that's 72 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: unique that she's into. She talked about, like why she 73 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: loves it so much. I have obviously my my brother 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: in law, he loves it. Um. During COVID when we 75 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: were all quarantined together, he used to practice on me. 76 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: He's a lot smaller than me, but somehow I'd find 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: my legs up over my head with my arms dropping 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: on my body, and I'd be, you know, done for 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean it wasn't like it was definitely 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: I would say if we rank these the least memorable hometown. 81 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: But I do feel like it was a special hometown 82 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: because her family was also like very accepting period, like 83 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: so accepting of Clayton and this whole thing like you 84 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: don't see that every time, but they really made him 85 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: feel welcome. So what I got from from her family 86 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: was like, all right, that was calm. They were accepting. 87 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: It didn't seem like the producers like griled somewhat up 88 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: to like create a storyline. It was just nice and 89 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I thought that was lovely. I hope the rest of 90 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: the hometowns are this lovely, and honestly they were. That's 91 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: why I liked this hometown because all the families were 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: like excited for the girls, really happy for them, and 93 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: there wasn't a ton of doubt. And we always get 94 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: that person that just wants to like hammer home that 95 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: you better not hurt her, you on her, But everyone 96 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: here was just chill and I liked it. Yeah, I 97 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: just like then. The other thing was that her parents 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: are just talking about how like she's like the kindest, 99 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: sweetest person ever, and that's kind of what we hear 100 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: from To cut that out, I was going to preview 101 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: the interview, but we don't have to do that. So 102 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: should we move on to surre It was Gabby's date 103 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: next it is? I mean, I would just add if 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: I get a second year to say that Susie's dad 105 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: was really sweet in this moment, like, you know, he's 106 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: been through a lot, and he he kind of said 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: something that really stood up to me. He goes, I 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: don't know how somebody hasn't uh like snatched her up yet, 109 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what's happened. And I just thought, 110 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a father. I'm definitely not a 111 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: father of a daughter. I would just say that that 112 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: comment probably took a lot for him to say, but 113 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: it also shows just how much he loves Susie and 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: cares for Susie that he would like look at some 115 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: random dude that just showed up to his house and 116 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: be like, you're lucky, dude, because I don't know how 117 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: somebody hasn't you know, found my daughter yet. But she's incredible. Um, 118 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: I was impressed with Susie after her hometown date. I 119 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: was impressed with her more than I've already been. Yeah, 120 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: I agree, Uh, let's talk about Gabby's hometown. She goes, 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: like hiking with him, Gabby is she's interesting. He says 122 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: that she's like the funniest girl he's ever met. What 123 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: we see of her isn't like super funny. But then 124 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: we see the blooper at the end, and I'm like, okay, Okay, 125 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: now I get it. I that's just another example of 126 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: me wishing that they kept more moments and like that 127 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: in the main show than putting it in the credit bay. 128 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: It would just it would make us understand connections more, 129 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I think. But I loved Gabby's hometown mainly because the 130 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: grandfather was hilarious, and of course we have the you know, 131 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: the moment that you talked about, and it just they 132 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: seemed like a fun family to want to like be 133 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: married into. It was a great hometown. In fact, they 134 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: hiked right by my house. I was watching it, and 135 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: obviously wasn't home when they were filming this, but I 136 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: was watching. I texted one of the producer. I was like, 137 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: did they hike at because that looks like the hike 138 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: that like Jessica and I take from our house. And 139 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: sure enough, I mean it's right like where they were 140 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: hiking is literally in our neighborhood. It's so weird, weird, 141 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: it's so wide. I recognized the rock. I mean, great hometown. 142 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: I should have Well, I know I should have. I 143 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: would have known. Um, But you know, Gabby is one 144 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: of those people who have grown on me. She's had 145 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: moments during this show, right, you know, she had moments 146 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: and we were talking about when you were out on 147 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: uh some maternity leave, was you know, she had a 148 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: date with Clayton where she's like, dude, I'm crazy, Like 149 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: I want to let you know I am absolutely bothered. 150 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: I am crazy. She got reforce it and at first 151 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: when she first said it, the first I was like, WHOA, 152 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: what's following this? And then when she kept joking about it, 153 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this girl is just super endearing 154 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: and lovable. She's just like all of us, you know, 155 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: she's great. So um. I loved her grandfather. I wish 156 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: you would have seen more of him. My only critique 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: is that he had like a couple of good, like 158 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: one liners in there, and he was really funny. I 159 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: wish you would have been like the star of the show. 160 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: I think he was even with the small amount of 161 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: time he was on. But we missed it, Like we 162 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: should have seen a lot more for that guy. I 163 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: could have had the entire episode probably with him. He 164 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: had a great sense of humor. And then he talked 165 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: about his wife and how she, you know, recently passed 166 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: away and him wearing the wedding ring. Still, that was 167 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: a really sweet moment. It was the perfect combination of 168 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: humor and heartfelt. Anything else to say more about Gabby's 169 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: I would just say once again, Um, it's another family 170 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: that's fully supportive of this experience and fully supportive of 171 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: clay And so he's getting off easy is one thing 172 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: I'll say, which is deserved, because he's not getting off 173 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: easy when it comes to the general public right now. 174 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: He's getting off easy in the hometowns. And another family 175 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: supportive of this experience. And I think it's an important 176 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: note because unlike some seasons where we have one family 177 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: totally against it or one sibling really against it. Um, 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: Clayton right now has the full report of the first 179 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: two women on their hometowns. So speaking of siblings Serene. 180 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: On Serene's hometown, the standout moment was her relationship I 181 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: guess and her sit down with her brother. I liked 182 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: this guy. He was protective, but not in an obnoxious way. No, 183 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: not like hey, let me get my television moment kind 184 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: of way that we watched some seasons where they're just 185 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: like over the top awkward, like hey, you never talked 186 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: to one of her people that she's dated like this. No, 187 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: he was good, Like he questioned it, he said in 188 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: on it, but he wasn't mean about it. He just 189 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: was very straightforward to that. And he talked about how 190 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: he's never seen her really get this vulnerable and he's 191 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: and she's done it in a way that it's only 192 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: been like six weeks and it's been through a process 193 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: like that, which is kind of surprising to him. But 194 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: he's like happy that she's gotten there. Yeah, and uh, 195 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean obviously a little foreshadowing there where you know, 196 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't want her to be hurt. But as we've 197 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: talked about so many times, I know this is tough, 198 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: but I believe, you know that people do learn a 199 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: lot from being on this experience, and I think that, 200 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, just getting the opportunity to open up again 201 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: and feeling something again is positive for a human. And 202 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: so we see her, you know, very much open up 203 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: to Clayton very much telling how she feels. Um. Can 204 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: you say, like he's a good looking dude and she's 205 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous. That family's got along. Oh my gosh, I 206 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: was thinking the same thing. I was like, that is 207 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: a handsome man. He sounds like Obama too, like Southern Obama. 208 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Oh, he's just strong and confident. 209 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: His voice is one of the leader. Um. Yeah, i'd 210 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: be intimidated to talk to him, like, dude, you're too 211 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: good looking and you're way too smart, like for me 212 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: to be sitting down here. You're gonna read through all 213 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: of this, and I'm about to send your sister home 214 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: in about two days. And I think you can tell 215 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: at this point, so like I just got to get 216 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: out of this house. Well, yeah, it was kind of 217 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: telling when he said do you love my sister? And 218 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: he was like, well, I haven't said that to anyone yet, 219 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: And it just felt like he was like, oh god, no, 220 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: I definitely am least there with your sister, or at 221 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: least like that was my interpretation because I just felt 222 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: like that connection was a little bit lesser then. Uh. 223 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: And another thing is we've talked throughout the episode. They've 224 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: talked about blessings, like I received blessings, but I think 225 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 1: he was more like I've I've received acceptance from families 226 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: because he never said, well, can I get down on 227 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: one knee? Can I propose to your daughter? Did you 228 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: ever say anything like that. I don't think so he 229 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: never did, but I guarantee he did it. Okay, you 230 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: have to you have to ask every time. I'm um, 231 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: and I get it right like you want if just 232 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: in case, like you want to be able to have 233 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: that from the parents, just in case if that does happen. Um, 234 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: I will tell you it was my least favorite part 235 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: of the whole show was walking into those houses and 236 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: I like right away and be like goshing it. I know, 237 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: no matter what, I'm going to have to have a 238 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: really awkward moment with a father who loves their daughter 239 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: or a brother who loves their sister or whatever. And 240 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to have it. I don't want to 241 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: have it at all. Um. Okay, so we have one 242 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: more date here actually in this hometown that we love 243 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: so much. This episode it's Rachel's who you know? Um, 244 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people feel like, since the beginning has 245 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of been the front runner. Uh. Did you feel 246 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: like this hometown date really solidified that for you? No, 247 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: I left this episode probably more confused as to who 248 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: it will be in the end. I knew I could 249 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: eliminate Serene, and now that we're down to these three 250 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: I actually have no direct and which is going I 251 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: I again liked Rachel's because her she was so scared 252 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: about her dad and how he was going to behave 253 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: forwards Clinton. He's apparently never liked another guy that she's 254 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: brought home. But he was like a he came off 255 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: as tony soprano but a total mushy, you know, teddy 256 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: bear Italian dad. In the end, he was far. I 257 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: was gonna say the same thing. I was like, I 258 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: know this is the stereotype. I know it is, but 259 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm watching the Sopranos right now because I've been flying 260 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: so much, so I have it download. And I was like, 261 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: when I saw her dad sitting there like stone cold, 262 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: and then his name was Tony and he's Italian, I 263 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: was like, I would be if Oh I'm so scared. 264 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: He was good. He was. I do have one criticism 265 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: of this state. Actually, Okay, a question for you and 266 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: everybody else. Okay, they're in Florida. You know I'm in 267 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Florida right now as we speak. I love alligators so much. 268 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: They're my favorite thing. You've bought me an alligator that 269 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: still sits on my desk to this day. I love 270 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: myself an alligator. So they're going down this like little 271 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: river ride in a see through canoe. They see a spider, 272 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: which isn't a big spider. Look closely, that spiders a 273 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: bunch of babies on its back. Yeah, just as creepy. 274 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: But that's a mom with all the babies on. I 275 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: just want to be clear there, stop stop, stop, that's 276 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: so gross. I thought that was like an insert shot. 277 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: I was like, that's not actually a spider that they seen. 278 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: They just threw that like that stock image in there. No, 279 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: it's a Florida spider. I mean, most spiders carry their 280 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: babies on their back, So that's just like a thousand 281 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: spideries on a on a mom's back. Um. But here's 282 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: my question. So at some point they get off and 283 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: they have this nice little picnic and they jump on 284 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: the waters. They're in the same water they were when 285 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: the alligators were swimming in it. Why are they not 286 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: concerned that there's not an alligator sitting at the bottom 287 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: that little swimming like, why is that not a thing? 288 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: And that's a great question. I don't know. Did they 289 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: put netting up now that netting is really going to 290 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: stop a crocodile or an alligator No. I mean, no 291 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: matter what, you're in Florida, in a running water, like 292 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: in a river in the middle of the woods. I 293 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: know how far back there are where this is is 294 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: at necessarily, but there's no like I mean, I swimming 295 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: alligator infested like lakes and that scares me. Let alone 296 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: a river that I know they're full of. UM. I 297 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: just want to I just want to ask that question 298 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: to see if somebody if I okay, whatever, that's all right, 299 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: never mind, all right. Well I was mad about it. 300 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: It was hilarious how like her mom was just down 301 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: like her mom, no reservations. It's exactly how my mom 302 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: would have been. It's just like, yeah, there's a boy 303 00:16:53,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: in the house, marry my daughter. So awesome, go for it. 304 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: This is great. It is funny to see that dynamic 305 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: during Rachel's day, where the dad was, if anything, the 306 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: most kind of like um, out of any intimidating, yet 307 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: the rest of that family was like, all for it, 308 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: gung ho, this is awesome, Go get it, Rachel, go 309 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: for it. Clay uh And I liked how the dad said, Clayton, 310 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: if if she speaks highly of you, I'll just give 311 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: you a little pat on the arm as you walk out. 312 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I thought that was sweet, Like, yeah, there was nice. See, 313 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Tony's a cute guy. He's a cute guy. He's real sweet. 314 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: He ain't that tough? Well, um, actually to find to 315 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: close this episode, I did think with you, I was 316 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. I thought it was either gonna be 317 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: Gabby or Serene to go home. I did not see 318 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: Susie or Rachel leaving. But unfortunately, at the beginning of 319 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: this whole season, my favorite Serene was sent home. I 320 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: think her feature is very bright, um, but she was 321 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: sent home from this season. Well, I am so actually 322 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: excited for Monday's episode in Iceland for these fantasy suites 323 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: and we'll finally, hopefully get the answer as to why 324 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: he has to say I was intimate with both of you. Also, 325 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: both of you interesting, not three of you, both of you, 326 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: both of you. It's gonna be wild, It's gonna be great, Ashley. 327 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: Let's take a break. When we come back, we have 328 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: a contestant from this season, Tessa joining us. She was eliminated. 329 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: We three testa touches on and I bet she's going 330 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: to be fantastic. Alright, guys, we have Tessa from Clayton season. 331 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: She was eliminated week three, Tessa, thank you so much 332 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: for being here. And we gotta know Clayton's getting a 333 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Clayton can't catch a break. Okay, this guy, he's still 334 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: getting criticized for being like quote boring and like we 335 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: don't care about Louie ends up with because we're not 336 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: invested in this dude. Um, how was he in real life? 337 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: Like do you do you feel like he's getting a 338 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: bad rap and he really is like an awesome guy 339 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: and this is all very unfortunate. Yeah, I mean, I 340 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: feel like we didn't have the luxury of getting to 341 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: know him so as much as maybe other bachelors in 342 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: the past, so it was really up to him to 343 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: like make a big splash, which is a lot of 344 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: pressure for one person. Um. I mean my interactions were 345 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: really positive. Um, I feel like there wasn't a vibe, 346 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: but it's not his fault, and I think, um, yeah, 347 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: I feel like America has been kind of tough on 348 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: my man, Clayton. I feel like he's he's not you know, 349 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't deserve it. He's a good guy. They've been 350 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: tough on him. I'm sensitive to the boy worring criticism, 351 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: because that was the biggest criticism I got. And uh, 352 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: later on in life, I'm like, I'm glad they called 353 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: me boring. It just means that I did not cause 354 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: too many issues on the show. It means it was 355 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: very nice and politely. And then actually, your season was 356 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: the first season I ever watched and I would have 357 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: considered you nice, kind, but certainly not boring. So I 358 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: put Clayton in the same category exactly. Um, but when 359 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: you so, when you're with them, so was it clear 360 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: to you like that there wasn't a connection there? Were 361 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: you pretty shocked when you got sent home? Yeah? I 362 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: think I wanted there to be a connection so badly. 363 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a connector by nature, so to 364 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: not feel something instantly was definitely a rude awakening that 365 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: you can't connect with everyone. Um, I think you're super handsome, 366 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: super kind, charming, but at the moment we sat down together, 367 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: I just didn't feel a spark. And as much as 368 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to feel, and I just I didn't. Well, 369 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: we have it eliminated down to Gabby, Rachel, and Susie. 370 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: So can you briefly describe each girl as you know them? 371 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: From firsthand experience. Yeah, totally so Gabby or I call 372 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: her Gabby cole Is. She's my girl. She and I 373 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: bonded night one, just absolutely not getting our way that night. 374 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: I feel like she and I were feeling kind of chaotic. Um, 375 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: she's so funny. She's like a young Jennifer Coolidge. Like 376 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: her voice in and of itself, it's just enough, it's 377 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: so it's so good. Um yeah, I think she's She's 378 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: definitely an interesting character. And I'm happy that we're we're 379 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: getting a bit more of her sincerity and like the 380 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: sweetness to her, because she is a complex person and 381 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're kind of getting to know her 382 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: in that way too. Um, Susie is perfection. Like if 383 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: I could describe a perfect person, it would be Susie. 384 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: I feel like she's just graceful and considerate and kind 385 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: and interesting that she's lived in Japan wild. Um yeah, 386 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: I would want, like my my future daughter to be 387 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: just like Susie. Yeah there and through Um serene, gorgeous, 388 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: like walks in the room and you're just completely taken 389 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: by her beauty. Um. She's a tiny thing. She's like 390 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: five two maybe, and she just takes up so much 391 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: space in the city presence um and also similarly very 392 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: sincere kind. She's a teacher just through and through, a 393 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: really great person. And lastly, my girl Rachel flying paint planes, 394 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: saving lives, doing all that stuff, just like such such 395 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: a force like Rachel for me is like a stabilizing 396 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: force in the house. That was her. I would always 397 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: look to her when I needed like a voice of 398 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: reason or support. Um, kind of like big Mama bear energy. 399 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: So you left kind of early. Yeah, that was that 400 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: was really great, Like you really you answered that question. 401 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: So thank you you love a little early on to 402 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: maybe be able to feel something with certainty. But when 403 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: you did leave, was there one of those four girls 404 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: sticking out in your head as like, oh, he's going 405 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: to end up with her? Yeah, So thank you for 406 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: bringing that up. I feel like I get a really 407 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: good road of people kind of instantly. UM. And I'd 408 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: say with Rachel, the way that she and I would 409 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: discuss Clayton was just so much different than any of 410 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: the other women. Um. I had a lot of insecurities 411 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: in the first couple of days about not having time 412 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: with him, and she just the way that she talked 413 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: about her time with him, I could really sense that 414 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: there's something special they're like her eyes would kind of 415 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: like soften and her body language would change, and um, 416 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: it was just a completely different experience. So that was 417 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: as early as you know, day one, day two, I 418 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: felt like their connection was really special and really sincere. 419 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: Now you were there three weeks. Did you ever seen 420 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: for the house? Did they ever ask you to use 421 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: your your vocals and your musical talents to entertain the house? Um? Okay, 422 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: So I feel like any musician either loves being asked 423 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: to sing or hates it. I'm of the hating it camp. 424 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: I have to say my voice is very like Gratian 425 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: ariy and like a little a little more folky than 426 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: I think people expect. So it's kind of awkward and 427 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: like come and gonna like serenade you with like a 428 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: bunch of you know, ocean sounds. Um. But yeah, they 429 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: asked a lot, and I politely or not so impolitely, declined, Yeah, 430 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: just somebody knows you were half of uh it's two's right, 431 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: that's how that's how you say it too, which is 432 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: a folk band that you formed with your brother Christian. 433 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: So you're half of this band. That's why I asked 434 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: that question, because I know you do have a lot 435 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: of talent. Um, I would have asked you just seeing 436 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: that that there was a lot going on in the house, 437 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: typically in a little entertainment always felt good. Yeah, I 438 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: did bring my I brought my guitar, so I could 439 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: have definitely done I think I was, honestly, in hindsight like, 440 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have brought it if I wasn't planning on 441 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: playing for anyone. But alright, Tessa, So in the house, 442 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: was there anything that happened that did not go according 443 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: to the way that it went down on TV or 444 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: is pretty much what we're seeing in the TV version 445 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah, I think the TV version, weirdly enough, 446 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: is what happened, especially with like the earlier villains and 447 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: drama like that all the shrimp stuff, unfortunately did happen. Um. 448 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: So I feel like this season is super dramatic, but 449 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: weirdly it was as dramatic in the house. And I'm 450 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: still kind of processing, like was that real life? Is 451 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: that a fever dream? Like? And my real person is today, 452 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow is yesterday, next month, I don't know what is happening, 453 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, weirdly all kind of took place the 454 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: way that it's been portrayed so wild. I just remember 455 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: Tessa sitting during The Bachelor. I've told actually as many times, 456 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: but like you, like, drama would be going down and 457 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: I'd be in my mind thinking, nobody's actually gonna believe 458 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: this happened the way that it's happening. But I have 459 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: a front row seat at it, Like I get to 460 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: watch all this happen with my own eyes. What were 461 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: you thinking when all this was happening. Yeah, I was usually, 462 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: for one, like sitting on the couch, just like eating 463 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: those gummy bears that are in the glass container. Oh 464 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: my gosh. I was literally talking to my sister the 465 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: other day about the fact that the Oreos and the 466 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: pan Eminem's were in those jars and they we all 467 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: gained ten pounds just because those jars easily. Yeah, like 468 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: just two hands at every moment, like going at it, 469 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: like staying out of the Drama's probably why I left here, Honestly, 470 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: I was just like I found my safe space my kitchen. 471 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: I was chilling. Um. Yeah, but during those moments, it 472 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: was hard to believe that women were arguing over a crustacean. 473 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: It really felt like we'd entered like a new realm 474 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: of existence. Like Wow, it's like we're all real people, 475 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: but like with jobs and families and lives outside of this. 476 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: But we're really talking about shrimp for days. So it 477 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: was pretty unexpected but entertaining, especially in my little kitchen 478 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: snack corner. It's safe space. You got to find a 479 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: safe spaces in the house. It's important. So this is 480 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: one of the actually favorite games. We love to play 481 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: this game with people, Tessa, and you're beautiful, you're smart, 482 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: you're talented, you get to read on people, and so 483 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: as a result, would you ever go on Paradise after 484 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: your experience? Now in the back slip this is a game. 485 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: I love this game, especially game that starts with compliments, 486 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, thank you. Um yeah, So, I in 487 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: my real life say that going on this show was 488 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: one of the best things I've ever done for myself. 489 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. Before going on the show, 490 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: I was living for other people. I was waking up 491 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: each day and make decisions that I really had no 492 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: say in, from my job to certain relationships. Um, this 493 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: is the person that I did for me after spending 494 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: nearly four years in a really hectic relationship. UM, and 495 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: it really opened up the doors for me to continue 496 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: kind of living for myself, like living intentionally, living mindfully. 497 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: And while it was a completely chaotic experience, it was 498 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: one that um instilled me with a lot more self confidence. 499 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: I was cry on my face off that first night, UM, 500 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: and those are tears that I needed to shed there. 501 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: There were tears from being like an ugly duckling in 502 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: high school, like so sad and miserable, and UM, it 503 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: just took a really big leap to really start to 504 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: value myself until I know what I love about myself. 505 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: So hell yeah, I would absolutely go in Paradise to 506 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: to reconnect with U, the courageous and brave version of 507 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: myself that the Bachelor introduced me to. O. I love 508 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: that we really really feel that we we relate. So 509 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: last question is who's your batchelor? This is my favorite. 510 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: I love this question that you would want to see 511 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: in Paradise. Yeah, so, oh she's got one. I do have. 512 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: I do, and it's uncomfortable because our paths have kind 513 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: of crops. But I definitely like I'm a little bit 514 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: shy when it comes to putting myself out there, so 515 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: this is a great way to do it publicly. Yeah, 516 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: he's I consider him a friend of mine, but something 517 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: about part deep on Michelle season really struck me. He's 518 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, b K forever. Um, Yeah, I feel like 519 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: there's a vibe. I also like love science, and we 520 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: haven't really nerded out on like psych in her science, 521 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: but I feel like they could be a vibe. So 522 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: hereby stating Cash so cute, it's gonna happen. I see it, 523 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't happen, Ashley, I'm going to be 524 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: so angry at this show. I'm gonna just flip that 525 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: if we don't see them meet on the beach a 526 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: week one, because I want to watch the whole thing 527 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: for four weeks go down. Test said, thanks for joining us. 528 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: It's so great to have you. Thanks for coming on, 529 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: and we hope to talk to you again. We hope 530 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: to be celebrating your time on Bachelor and Paradise if 531 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: it goes well or if it doesn't, we just hope 532 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: you come back and talk to us at some point soon. Yeah. Absolutely, 533 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. I've had a lot of 534 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: fun course o good bye bye and after this quick break, 535 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: we're going to have bachelor headlines, So stay tuned. It's 536 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: time for bachelor headlines. Ben had to go to a 537 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: business dinner, so I will be doing this on my 538 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: own first up, big, big, huge headline today. It was 539 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: released a couple hours before we recorded. Clayton Underwood is 540 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: engaged to Jordan's Brown, his boyfriend. Um. They have been 541 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: together for a few months now, I would say over 542 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: a little over half a year. And he and this 543 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: is what we got after my birthday, Jordan and I 544 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: went to Big Sir for a weekend getaway to decompress 545 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: and relax in nature. I couldn't have pictured a more 546 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: beautiful place to celebrate an amazing milestone in my life 547 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: and my relationships. In my relationship. It was his thirtieth birthday, UM, 548 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: and he said, I'm extremely happy. Has been the most 549 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: transformative year of my life, starting off with my best friend, 550 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: teammate and now Beyonce is something I never thought was 551 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: going to be possible. Uh. They again just announced this 552 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: on social media today. Um, looks like the engagement happened 553 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: in in Big Sir. Uh. It sounds as if George 554 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: In was the one to propose, but I don't think 555 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: we have those details yet. All right, well, congratulations to Colton. 556 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: We can't wait to see their relationship evolve over forever, 557 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: we hope. Uh so. Second headline, Amanda Stanton calls out 558 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: The Bachelor for the therapy dates that we've seen lately. 559 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: She says, we've been watching The Bachelor of this season 560 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: and I have to say something about the multiple therapy dates. 561 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: They're rubbing me the wrong way. She said this on 562 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: Insto story last week. She said, I understand where they're 563 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: trying to go with it, but forcing girls to quote 564 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: open up on a national TV and then literally judging 565 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: their sessions or sending them home and making them feel 566 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: bad if they don't open up enough is just not it. 567 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: There's a reason therapy is a private thing, and I 568 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: don't think this is a good representation, representation enough therapy 569 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: or helping end the stigma around mental health. Just had 570 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: to say, And you know, I didn't think. I never 571 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: thought of it this way, But after reading what Amanda said, 572 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I have to agree. So you guys, 573 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: let us know what you think about the therapy dates. 574 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: They've kind of like replaced the food dates because we're 575 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: getting so many food dates and now we're getting a 576 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: lot of therapy dates. So now we've heard from Zach 577 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Clark recently. He says that he is not dating after 578 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: his split with Tasia, saying that he struggles with trust issues. 579 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: So apparently he says he's doing fine after his his split, 580 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: but he's quite ready to get back into the dating game. 581 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: He hasn't started going on dates, but it's open to it, 582 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: says a source to US Weekly. Um, he has he's 583 00:33:53,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: been thinking about, uh going on some dates, some apps, 584 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: some being on some dating apps like Raya. Uh. They're 585 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: trying to help him move on his friends. UM, but 586 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: he's hesitant about getting into a new relationship, says this source, 587 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: because now he's a public figure. He gets excited about 588 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: the idea of dating again, but has trust issues from 589 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: being in the spotlight. His biggest fear is getting close 590 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: to someone breaking up and then that girl sharing with 591 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: the world about their relationship. We have seen it happen 592 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: to bachelor destance in the past. Apparently, UM, Zak wants 593 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: to a relationship UM that is built on trust and 594 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: through all the ups and downs of you know, well, 595 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: honestly Zach's life, he's managed to stay focused on his 596 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: career and maintained his sobriety. He's working on release recovery 597 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: and has some upcoming projects in the works. Next headline, 598 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: Clayton is racing himself for Bachelor backlash as the Fantasy 599 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: Suite episode approaches so again, a source close to production 600 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: tells E News that Clayton is really concerned about how 601 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: fans are going to react to his season ending. We 602 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: we We had a headline last week in which Clayton 603 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: was talking about how he because of the backlash, sometimes 604 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: he wonders whether or not he should have even done 605 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: the show. And then I said, you know, is that 606 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: something that somebody who end it ended happily for would 607 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: actually say? But we we know that Clayton has experienced backlash. 608 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: We know that he is been sad, you know, upset 609 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: about it, Like he feels frustrated that people still feel 610 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: like they're not resonating with him when he's being his 611 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: best self. So okay, let's go back to the quote. 612 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: So Clayton is really struggling with the cism that he 613 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: has taken for the decisions that he's made on the show. 614 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: I think, uh, the villain, the villain component probably. He 615 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: probably got a lot of flak for that, you know, 616 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: with Elizabeth. He Elizabeth and Schney. He did apologize publicly 617 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: for the way that he handled that situation. Um, but 618 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: it seems like this week he knows it could get 619 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: worse for him as the fantasy suite has come into play. Uh. 620 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: Clayton does indeed fall in love with multiple women, the 621 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: source shares, and that is really obvious based on the 622 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: scenes for the next episode that we saw, And they 623 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: continue to say that many hearts are broken in ways 624 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: that we really have never seen before on the show. 625 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: So that's interesting. Think back on Michelle's finale, I mean, wow, 626 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: that was a heartbreaker. There's been so many heartbreaks. How 627 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: is this going to be any different? We'll see, um, 628 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: But Clayton is so concerned with how things will play 629 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: out that he even reached out to former Bachelor's Matt 630 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: James and Nick Vall for their support and advice. Did 631 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: he didn't reach out to Ben? Everybody reaches out to 632 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: Ben for advice? Um? Well, we will see how it unfolds, 633 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: hopefully on Monday, because I am getting impatient. I must 634 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: know what this teaser is all about. And last headline 635 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. Bachelor lum Hannah and Sluice vacations with 636 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: Los Angeles rams Jake Funk after the Super Bowl. Basically, 637 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: she just took a whole bunch of cute, romantic pictures 638 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: of the two of them during their time in Cabbo St. Lucas, Mexico. 639 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: He's twenty four, she's and it was a nice little 640 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: postseason getaway for the two of them. She captioned her 641 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: Instagram post, next stop lovers each So I'm really happy 642 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: for the two of them. Alright, guys, Well that is 643 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: it for headlines this week. Can't wait to see what 644 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: happens on Monday's episode. Seriously, who is he intimate with? Okay? 645 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: Is he doing three or two? Let us know all 646 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: your thoughts where you think this season is headed? At 647 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: Ben and Ashley at iHeart media dot com. And I'll 648 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: do this sign off myself until next time I've been Ashley. Bye. 649 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 650 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.