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Speaker 1: you guys there now enjoy the show. So yeah, Hi, Hi, UM,
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess my nervous I don't know.
Speaker 1: Can I just don't understand how I met someone online
Speaker 1: and then now you're in front of me. It's weird.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be exciting. Um, Hi, guys, welcome to
Speaker 1: yet another episode of Horrible Decisions. Um, this is your girl,
Speaker 1: Mandy be and I'm sitting next to me and Weezy
Speaker 1: and I'm we're sitting next to Sissy, well, Robbie, Sissy.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to call you. I don't know
Speaker 1: the proper pronoun right now? Actually, yeah, can we go
Speaker 1: through this because I don't want to say I mean,
Speaker 1: do we? Is it? He? Because it's it's a little
Speaker 1: place into that. So let me tell you, guys, um,
Speaker 1: who's in the studio with us today? So I was
Speaker 1: on bumble and do you see these pages all the
Speaker 1: time where it's someone that has a fetish or it's
Speaker 1: a fetish page and it's not maybe your quote unquote
Speaker 1: everyday life. And I found Sissy there and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this girl looks really good. And then
Speaker 1: I click on it and it's actually can I read it?
Speaker 1: All right? Let me let me click on my I'm
Speaker 1: really not I'm freaking nervous. I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm onna. You're like back to really swiping now,
Speaker 1: like you haven't got all the apps back on your
Speaker 1: phone and you are on the prow ma'am, I'm just
Speaker 1: having fun. Okay. Hey, I'm a part time cross dresser
Speaker 1: and I love to dress up and become a sissy maid.
Speaker 1: Most of the time, I'm a regular guy, but in
Speaker 1: my spare time, I like dressing up in pretty outfits, makeup,
Speaker 1: and heels. I recently moved to New York and looking
Speaker 1: to make friends with fun and interesting, interesting and open
Speaker 1: minded people. So I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: have to have her, mainly because most cross dressers I
Speaker 1: see on Tender look awful and it's just like, you
Speaker 1: put no effort into this, fine, like whatever. So I
Speaker 1: swiped um sissy right and I matched, and I asked
Speaker 1: her if she would go on and she's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I've never been on a podcast. I Can
Speaker 1: I ask you a question because clearly you guys matched,
Speaker 1: so you found an attraction. How did you feel when
Speaker 1: she hits you? And was like, actually, that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Can you just come on my podcast? As I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to you know, like, what was your
Speaker 1: reaction to that? I didn't know what to say. I've
Speaker 1: never I've never really I don't really listen to podcasts.
Speaker 1: I've certainly never been on one, so I just thought,
Speaker 1: fuck it, why not. I'm new to the city. I
Speaker 1: you know, I like doing cool things, things that take
Speaker 1: me out my comfort zone. Yeah, like it's so New York. Ye.
Speaker 1: She was super excited too. I just matched end of October.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, I'm so do you work in Fine?
Speaker 1: You look like a finance guy sort of. You don't
Speaker 1: have to tell, but let's just say bye. I was
Speaker 1: close for you. Yeah, okay, got so. Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: wanted to know. Do you have a regular page or
Speaker 1: now I do? Yeah, I do have a regular one. Um. Actually,
Speaker 1: this time it's a little bit interesting for me. So
Speaker 1: you did see you did meet me on a profile
Speaker 1: that was just uh, sort of cross dressing pitches. But
Speaker 1: this is the first time I've combined sort of a profile,
Speaker 1: so I know how pictures of me regular and really
Speaker 1: on your regular profiles. Yeah, now, just for the first
Speaker 1: time coming here, have you seen a different response. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been better, I think really. So what
Speaker 1: we like to do and we have guests is a
Speaker 1: thing called icebreakers. I'm sure he knows what that fucking means.
Speaker 1: What do you mean we do a thing called icebreakers?
Speaker 1: I mean what. I don't know if maybe they had English, right,
Speaker 1: where are you from England? England? Well, maybe they call it.
Speaker 1: Do you guys call us something else? Over there? We
Speaker 1: call it icebreaker ship. I didn't know it was the
Speaker 1: universal fucking thing. Okay, okay, so English Tony Americans don't
Speaker 1: do this ship. They're like, wow, do you guys? You
Speaker 1: guys have pizza there? Okay, you don't speak English, is
Speaker 1: the first the first thing. No, you guys are cool. Okay.
Speaker 1: So here's the question they have for you. Would you
Speaker 1: rather go a year without intercourse or a year without
Speaker 1: oral sex. I'd rather go a year without I'd rather
Speaker 1: go a year without oral sex as well. Yea, it
Speaker 1: gives me to give me penetration please. Actually, the guys
Speaker 1: that i've dated that I asked that question too. I
Speaker 1: think I've sent it seen on Instagram. They were like,
Speaker 1: well with you, like, now, let's just I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think my guys would have probably the same response.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy because I don't feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of guys can really perform orally as well as women
Speaker 1: can perform orally. I think it's just harder for women
Speaker 1: to orgasm. Yeah, all right, let's see. So the next
Speaker 1: one is would you rather receive or give a golden shower?
Speaker 1: I have never done EVA, I guess I'd rather give.
Speaker 1: I suppose. Yeah, I did not think you're going to
Speaker 1: say that, only because in my eyes, cross testing is
Speaker 1: this thing of like to be submissive a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to get paid some much. Okay?
Speaker 1: Would you rather be dominated or be the domb? Of course,
Speaker 1: outside of I'm sorry, outside of your cross dressing life? Oh? Both? Really?
Speaker 1: You do both? Okay? Okay? Um, So the kink of
Speaker 1: the week we initially had was was ball busting, but
Speaker 1: Mandy and I realized we did it at the live show.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting with Robbie while you're on your way
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, what can I do? Like, give
Speaker 1: me some ship I've never heard of? So he said
Speaker 1: he had a friend that does webcam ship and something
Speaker 1: she does is um ignoring. So I'm like, how what
Speaker 1: is this called? Looked it up. It's an abandonment fetish,
Speaker 1: neglect fantasy and apparently people um have phone lines to
Speaker 1: be ignored on, so it's from a domb point of view, Um,
Speaker 1: it's a submission fetish and yeah, can you tell U a
Speaker 1: a little bit about your friend. Yes, So she's a
Speaker 1: friend from from from London from moment. She got into
Speaker 1: it a while ago. She was looking to make some
Speaker 1: extra cash and she's kind of in the in the
Speaker 1: kind of scene socially, and someone suggested it to her
Speaker 1: and now she she has She does webcam sessions and
Speaker 1: phone sessions where she literally just ignores whoever on the
Speaker 1: other end of the phone. So is this like a
Speaker 1: finn dam thing, because I've heard of finnam Is doing this.
Speaker 1: It's kind of It's not. Well, fin Dom is literally
Speaker 1: talking about the money though, right, not all of it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things that are involved in
Speaker 1: finding and a lot of them want to feel like
Speaker 1: ship and so when you're ignoring someone, you're belittling them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess. So all I know is I've been to
Speaker 1: our house and we're just sitting on the sofa watching
Speaker 1: TV chatting. She's smoking, she's dressed in like, you know,
Speaker 1: in an outfit um, and there's someone on the on
Speaker 1: the webcam who she's just ignoring. She doesn't look at them.
Speaker 1: And she's getting paid by the by the minute, like
Speaker 1: five dollars a minute or something? What am I doing
Speaker 1: wrong with my life? I don't know why? Let me
Speaker 1: tell you that. People like will say like we had
Speaker 1: a dom on here, and she was like people always
Speaker 1: are saying how like, oh, I'm a bit so I
Speaker 1: could do this. I don't know how long I could
Speaker 1: ignore them one like, I'm sure i'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: feel bad. I mean, but she literally was just going
Speaker 1: on with what she was doing, right, But you were
Speaker 1: there while it happened. What the other person do? Are
Speaker 1: they jerking off? Or they like, please talk to me?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't. I didn't see them. They're
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, they're sort of looking, they're typing, like
Speaker 1: typing on the chat. They're sort of talking. She can
Speaker 1: mute them, so she just often mutes it so she
Speaker 1: doesn't even hear them. So they're trying to talk or
Speaker 1: trying to chat, and she's just sitting there smoking or
Speaker 1: like in her outfitting chatting or watching TV. And so
Speaker 1: they're talking to themselves, yeah, basically, and they're trying to
Speaker 1: get her attention or whatever, and she just ignores them.
Speaker 1: And there at any point where they can like earn it,
Speaker 1: like a punishment type of thing, like okay, fine, even
Speaker 1: a good boy like I'll, I guess there is you
Speaker 1: can do what you want, I suppose, but she do
Speaker 1: that like America's next models on. Oh great, all right,
Speaker 1: so our horrible decision for the week is obviously cross dressing. UM.
Speaker 1: So we have people that sent in questions for you. UM.
Speaker 1: A lot of my friends that are like in the
Speaker 1: LGBT community were like, you need to make sure that
Speaker 1: you use all the right words and you need to
Speaker 1: say this and say that. I'm like, okay, so I
Speaker 1: feel like I've got some good questions that people would have. Um,
Speaker 1: the first day, I want to start with this, can
Speaker 1: I can I say something before we get into this?
Speaker 1: Do you define yourself as a part of the LGBTQ
Speaker 1: community because you are you deal with women though? Right, well,
Speaker 1: Q is apparently where the cross dressing fetish lies, like
Speaker 1: it lies in the queer part. It doesn't have anything
Speaker 1: to do with I don't feel like, well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into that. That's part of my question. So something
Speaker 1: I've been like trying to, like I said, research for
Speaker 1: the proper pronouns and things like that is when I
Speaker 1: type in cross dressing, a lot of hyper sexuality comes up,
Speaker 1: but the LGBT community claims cross dress saying as a
Speaker 1: part of a queer thing because people like kind of
Speaker 1: teeter on the fence. So here's my question for you,
Speaker 1: your sexuality and the experiences that you've seen with other
Speaker 1: cross stressers. This is different from drag, but like, what
Speaker 1: exactly is it? Uh? For me? Firstly, I don't really
Speaker 1: mind what people call it, all the pronouns that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. I'm not very politically, I don't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: define it as that. Yeah, first of all, that doesn't
Speaker 1: worry me. Um, I'd say it's different for different people. Um,
Speaker 1: there are definitely a lot of heterosexual cross dresses, um,
Speaker 1: people that do it for all kinds of reasons. I
Speaker 1: do know straight drag queens when you get into the
Speaker 1: kind of drag. From my experience, more are like the
Speaker 1: majority are gay, and they certainly know of a couple
Speaker 1: of straight drag queens. But with cross dressing in general
Speaker 1: sort of outside the drag, I'd say quite a large
Speaker 1: percentage of straight right now, How is so cross dressing?
Speaker 1: What is the difference from cross dressing and drag? To
Speaker 1: be honest, it looked very similar when I saw your pictures.
Speaker 1: You you not only get into wearing a dress and
Speaker 1: wearing a heels, you did a full face of makeup,
Speaker 1: you had a wig. Um, what is that not? Is dragged?
Speaker 1: Just more so the performance attached to it, more so
Speaker 1: than you actually just dressing up. I think. So when
Speaker 1: I when I think of drag queens, I think of
Speaker 1: stages and performances and you know, either singing or dancing
Speaker 1: or miming, you know, but putting on a show more
Speaker 1: a show. So with cross dressers, you were one of
Speaker 1: the first ones that I saw that looked that good.
Speaker 1: And maybe because your makeup was I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was, but like normally, like I feel like I
Speaker 1: could still see someone's beard or mustache and they just
Speaker 1: have a more masculine look, like you looked totally fem
Speaker 1: And so I'm just curious to know how do you
Speaker 1: prepare and what do you have to do to start
Speaker 1: learning to do the things? Do you even do your
Speaker 1: on makeup? I do my makeup sometimes, but a lot
Speaker 1: of the time my friends do do it. I've got
Speaker 1: um friends that are in the kind of makeup industry
Speaker 1: or that do this kind of stuff. Um, and also
Speaker 1: just girlfriends enjoy doing it. They enjoy because they they're
Speaker 1: friends with me as a guy, so that for them
Speaker 1: it's fun to then dressed me up or do the makeup,
Speaker 1: and they like doing different styles or trying to make
Speaker 1: me as as fair as possible. What was your first outfit? Uh,
Speaker 1: So it's kind of strange. My very first outfit or
Speaker 1: the very first time I did it was for a
Speaker 1: friend's eighteen birthday party years ago, like twelve years ago. Um,
Speaker 1: and I had a long, sort of pink sequin bullgown.
Speaker 1: Kind of why did you do it for the party,
Speaker 1: because well, I was the whole thing started with an
Speaker 1: ext girlfriend. I was with a girlfriend and she kind
Speaker 1: of got me into it when we're young, sixteen seventeen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she she's kind of started the whole thing. Um,
Speaker 1: and then my friend was having a party where the theme,
Speaker 1: the dress up theme was kings and queens, and um,
Speaker 1: my girlfriend had gone as the Queen of Hearts. She
Speaker 1: dressed up in a you know, a sexy queen of heartsting,
Speaker 1: and she kind of convinced me to go as a
Speaker 1: drag queen. The first time. We kind of went out
Speaker 1: and bought like a wig and a dress. And heels
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. Now, is this something that
Speaker 1: you started doing um or that you had an attraction
Speaker 1: to at a younger age, but maybe your parents wouldn't
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Was it something that wasn't allowed?
Speaker 1: Was it something that you kind of always wanted to do,
Speaker 1: or was it really literally that that girlfriend at eighteen
Speaker 1: that got you into it. I'd always liked dressing up
Speaker 1: as AE kids. I wouldn't necessarily to say that that
Speaker 1: was like female dressing up because that was not that much.
Speaker 1: Someone wants to know when you identified with this part
Speaker 1: of yourself. Yeah, I guess she kind of brought it out.
Speaker 1: Like I think when I was young, I liked just
Speaker 1: the whole dressing up in general, you know, because there's
Speaker 1: any kind of character as Disney as you know, just
Speaker 1: generic dressing up. While you're saying that, I do want
Speaker 1: to read this one question I have from Christopher. He said,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's tying in. Can you explain
Speaker 1: your experience living in the intersection of gender performance and
Speaker 1: expression basically, like is this something that has to do
Speaker 1: like do you like being another gender? Like is this
Speaker 1: just roleplay? Like? How did it feel? It's kind of
Speaker 1: role play. It's kind of maybe escapism or it's kind
Speaker 1: of I like, it's definitely pretending and that sort of acting.
Speaker 1: It's not I don't want to be a woman, or
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I don't I don't want to
Speaker 1: live like that permanently. I love being a guy. I
Speaker 1: love my life as it is. But then just like
Speaker 1: you know, occasionally transforming kind of a transformation process and
Speaker 1: pretending maybe escaping. I don't know how often are you sissy?
Speaker 1: It depends, um probably once once every few weeks or
Speaker 1: something like that. You know, it depends what's going on
Speaker 1: and where I am. And I saw you had a
Speaker 1: picture out and about with two girls, so like normally
Speaker 1: that was the first picture I've ever seen where somebody
Speaker 1: was dressed to like that that wasn't in drag like
Speaker 1: outside or that's not a drag queen in the daytime,
Speaker 1: Like where were you? Like when are you like really
Speaker 1: going out there? So I've been living abroad for the
Speaker 1: last few years, and when I was back home in
Speaker 1: London to I just decided to fuck it and go out.
Speaker 1: And in London, um, there's a lot of kind of
Speaker 1: places like clubs and so fetish bars or fetish clubs
Speaker 1: or gay bars, drag queen bars to go to. So
Speaker 1: I did went to those kind of places. But then
Speaker 1: where I've been living recently, there wasn't that kind of scene.
Speaker 1: So I just had friends and we just went out.
Speaker 1: We just said, fuck it, We're just going to go
Speaker 1: out to bars or clubs, regular ones and just have fun.
Speaker 1: Have you done it in New York for the first
Speaker 1: time the other week? Yes? Where'd you go? Um? I
Speaker 1: can't remember the bar, but it was in the West Village,
Speaker 1: some drag queen bars in West Village. So we've established
Speaker 1: if someone cross dresses, that doesn't mean they're gay. What's
Speaker 1: your sexuality? What do you identify with? Heterosexual? Like open
Speaker 1: minded and free flowing, but heterosexution, so not like okay.
Speaker 1: So the reason I wanted to ask that question is
Speaker 1: because on Sissy's page something it said something something sir
Speaker 1: question mark, and I was like, oh, because I knew
Speaker 1: you were on bumble looking for women when we match.
Speaker 1: But then I was curious, like, do you have men
Speaker 1: on there as well? I don't know, but it is
Speaker 1: kind of I guess that was just kind of it's
Speaker 1: kind of when I'm dressed like that, and if I
Speaker 1: do go, you know, outside, then I do have guys
Speaker 1: that are you know, it's kind of either attracted or
Speaker 1: interested or that kind of thing, and it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of just going with the role player. I suppose that, yeah,
Speaker 1: like a daddy thing or whatever. I guess. So she
Speaker 1: sat here and asked all these politically correct questions. I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask the questions I really want to know. Um,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of my next one was
Speaker 1: our first date again walk boring. Um, So I really
Speaker 1: want to know when it comes to dating, um a woman.
Speaker 1: Because you've clearly said you haven't dealt with I got
Speaker 1: my own questions. Um, you clearly haven't messed with any
Speaker 1: men up to this point. Correct or you have dip
Speaker 1: and dabt. I've had experiences, but not in terms of
Speaker 1: dating or anything like that. That's not okay. And with
Speaker 1: the cross dressing, does it bring an arousal to you
Speaker 1: when you're in this character? Do you feel harder? Do
Speaker 1: you feel more aroused? Is this what gets you off it? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: There's definitely two For me, there are two sides to
Speaker 1: it that that definitely is a sexual aspect of a
Speaker 1: sexual side. Um. But there's a huge chunk that is
Speaker 1: not It's just fun. It just makes me happy. But
Speaker 1: on Bumble, you're so like that. That's why I want
Speaker 1: to talk about the first date because I'm bumble. You're
Speaker 1: specifically talking for one thing Sissy made right, So like,
Speaker 1: how does that work? Our girls really like swiping you
Speaker 1: right to clean their house or do you want something
Speaker 1: else from it? They are and I do that happens? Um? No,
Speaker 1: Ideally I want I want to be uh Robbie and
Speaker 1: and Sissy. Um. I've just been scared, I suppose or
Speaker 1: afraid to have them on both because there's certain people
Speaker 1: in my life that I'm not comfortable with them knowing. Uh.
Speaker 1: Out of that for me is work like people I
Speaker 1: work with. UM. But the kind of beauty or nice
Speaker 1: thing for me coming to a new city, in a
Speaker 1: big city like New York is that it's very unlikely,
Speaker 1: especially knowing my work colleagues, they're not going to come
Speaker 1: across you know, they're not going to listen to this
Speaker 1: podcast for example, right, I wouldn't have recognized you in
Speaker 1: that picture, and like like if I would have matched
Speaker 1: with both profiles, I've never would have. So that's that's
Speaker 1: what gives me kind of anonymity for sure. For sure,
Speaker 1: So putting them both together is what I really want
Speaker 1: to do. And a few weeks ago here in New
Speaker 1: York is the first time I have done that. Where'd
Speaker 1: you do that? Tinder or Tinder? Yeah? And I did
Speaker 1: want to ask, So when you're dating, you said you
Speaker 1: want someone to accept Cissy and Robbie. Have you ever
Speaker 1: had a relationship since you've been both that you couldn't
Speaker 1: be both? Like? Was your partner not interested in Cissy? Yes,
Speaker 1: there's been like, well, not a long relationship, but certainly
Speaker 1: relationships that have lasted a few months or six months
Speaker 1: or so. Um. Some I haven't even been told, they
Speaker 1: haven't even known. Um. Why did you feel like you couldn't?
Speaker 1: A variety of reasons. Sometimes because I've dated twice, I've
Speaker 1: dated girls from work, Um it's been a barrier. Um.
Speaker 1: Other times just I don't know. Sometimes you just you
Speaker 1: just don't feel like you can, or it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: hasn't any girlfriend that you are a woman you've ever dated?
Speaker 1: Like found women's clothing in your home and been like,
Speaker 1: what the fun? Yes, my last girlfriend did so she
Speaker 1: did not know, um, and then she found she found Well,
Speaker 1: how did that conversation go fucking terribly? She was she
Speaker 1: of course assumed there was someone else's How long were
Speaker 1: you dating her? About about a year? But it was
Speaker 1: kind of a long distance a long distance relationship. A
Speaker 1: year A long time to find some fucking heels in
Speaker 1: my boyfriend's house. Yeah, it was a long disc since relationship.
Speaker 1: And she found out. And then you're like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: doing this when I'm not here? Like that makes sense? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she u she found them, assumed it was someone
Speaker 1: else's obviously, of course did you have to show her?
Speaker 1: They used to calm down, um, and then you know,
Speaker 1: I had to explain the situation, you know, explain it.
Speaker 1: And what was her response? She knew that it wasn't
Speaker 1: another woman, but she knew that this was now something
Speaker 1: that she enjoyed doing. And I will say, while me
Speaker 1: and Wheezy are very open to accepting things, this is
Speaker 1: something where I honestly don't know how I would respond
Speaker 1: if I found out my partner was doing it. So
Speaker 1: what was the response when she found out that this
Speaker 1: wasn't another woman's clothing? She was a bit confused. She
Speaker 1: she didn't know if she could accept it. Had she
Speaker 1: heard of it before? She Yeah, she'd heard of it,
Speaker 1: but she only associated it with gay, like a lot
Speaker 1: of people know that. Yeah, so that's something that she
Speaker 1: struggled with. She thought, you know, she kind of made
Speaker 1: the assumption that you know, that always may be gay. Uh,
Speaker 1: she wasn't sure how she could accept it. And then
Speaker 1: she was also annoyed because it's been so long that
Speaker 1: essentially lied. Right, So we may have some we so
Speaker 1: we have a lot of male listeners actually, and so
Speaker 1: I want to ask this question to you because maybe
Speaker 1: someone who listens to this show has the same kink
Speaker 1: um as far as cross dressing, and as a straight man,
Speaker 1: do you call her kin I guess so it's I would,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know. Yeah, if you're doing it in
Speaker 1: a day and it's not sex, and I would still
Speaker 1: kind of consider it kind of just like we talked
Speaker 1: about the cosplay, it can be kinky, but it also
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be necessarily related to set. So my
Speaker 1: question is and that I would love for you to
Speaker 1: like maybe help guide our our our listeners if they're
Speaker 1: into cross dressing and haven't opened up, how do you
Speaker 1: bring this to someone you're newly dating? Or how do
Speaker 1: you introduce this and say this is a part of you,
Speaker 1: either early on in the stage or before getting caught.
Speaker 1: I think definitely, as with anything, sooner is better. You know,
Speaker 1: if you can do it's going to be easier for
Speaker 1: them to accept you don't have Oh you lied to
Speaker 1: me for so long. Uh. And also you're not quite
Speaker 1: so involved maybe so if it doesn't go well, it's
Speaker 1: not such a big issue. Have you ever had to
Speaker 1: cheat for it, like someone who wasn't accepting of it?
Speaker 1: Did you have to feel like you had to sneak
Speaker 1: away to go do this with someone else? That's really
Speaker 1: that's really good. I was just sure. I was waiting
Speaker 1: for the stories I like because well, I'm at basketball
Speaker 1: playing time in the gym. Well we say it all
Speaker 1: the time too, Like, I think so many people suppress
Speaker 1: things that they desire sexually because so many people are
Speaker 1: not accepting of this type of stuff, and a lot
Speaker 1: of times they will seek out either through online dating
Speaker 1: apps or Craigslist or anywhere to find that to get
Speaker 1: the herd away. And so I guess that's so most
Speaker 1: people that you have dated who weren't accepting of it,
Speaker 1: they pretty much just walked away a kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess you know, things just didn't work out or
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, but yeah, in terms of in
Speaker 1: terms of I've tried to say, it's various girlfriends in
Speaker 1: a variety of ways. Um, I think the easiest is
Speaker 1: just to kind of get drunk and tell them. But
Speaker 1: but that's exactly what the advice I've given people like
Speaker 1: I have a crush on my friend, get drunk, Just
Speaker 1: get drunk. I'm trying to really think you don't feel
Speaker 1: any like like you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: don't have any inhibitions about it. The other person's got
Speaker 1: to let their guard down to it's like, suck it.
Speaker 1: So I do want to ask you, Wheezy, if you've
Speaker 1: been dealing with lover boy for quite some time, if
Speaker 1: this is something that he came to you and said
Speaker 1: he enjoyed doing, is that like how would you react
Speaker 1: to that? So, Like, I am such a pleaser that
Speaker 1: I think I would do anything to like use anybody.
Speaker 1: If I met someone on tender that said this, I
Speaker 1: might swipe them left initially because I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how a deal. But if I'm already invested and
Speaker 1: this is going to get you off, then fuck it.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm already saying that I don't really give
Speaker 1: a ship off that person. It's hetero flexible, right, Like,
Speaker 1: this isn't that much crazier to me? Well, at least
Speaker 1: you can't fit your clothes. So my mom and I
Speaker 1: actually had a conversation funny enough, my mom. I was
Speaker 1: telling my mom about having you on and she's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my ex husband used to want to
Speaker 1: put my panties on all the time, she said. She
Speaker 1: brought that up on the show. Yeah, and she's like,
Speaker 1: so she starts telling me like how he would never
Speaker 1: get fully dressed up. She's like, but it was like
Speaker 1: he was so getting ready for it, And I wanted
Speaker 1: to know, like how when you're easing it on someone,
Speaker 1: Let's say, like, do you start with something small, like
Speaker 1: have you ever been in the room and a girl's
Speaker 1: brows there and you put it on and see what
Speaker 1: she says, Yes, that's definitely that's that's kind of a
Speaker 1: way to easing it. So someone's done that to me, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of a way to tested you know,
Speaker 1: you do it obviously kind of as a joke and
Speaker 1: then engauge their reaction if she comes in and says, like,
Speaker 1: what the funk are you doing? Get the funk out
Speaker 1: of my clothes? You know it's crazy about it, then
Speaker 1: you're quite okay, maybe you know this is not gonna work, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like men do this a lot with pegging. Well, Peggy,
Speaker 1: I would say, they start really a tongue, then a finger,
Speaker 1: then lifted up like yeah, like they kind of let
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of want to. So I know
Speaker 1: you said you're on tender. We just had UM a
Speaker 1: couple episodes ago, an entire episode on online dating. Are
Speaker 1: there any sites for people who enjoy cross dressing and
Speaker 1: people who enjoy being with someone who cross dresses? Would
Speaker 1: do you know of any online dating sites for that?
Speaker 1: Not really, Like there's a couple of kind of sites obviously,
Speaker 1: places like fat life and these kind of sites. Um,
Speaker 1: and there's a couple of others, but it's mainly just
Speaker 1: kind of voyears. It's not really all people that are
Speaker 1: going to get into it. Yeah, it's just kind of
Speaker 1: like keyboard people. It's not you know, it's it's not
Speaker 1: they're not serious. Was like, your so I'm sure, like
Speaker 1: someone was like I can see a girl sitting there
Speaker 1: and be like, this guy's gonna clean my house. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about like the perfect scenario in terms
Speaker 1: of like the way someone treats you and like how
Speaker 1: the night could end, like whether it be sex, whether
Speaker 1: it be them dominating you, Like how what is what
Speaker 1: you want from bubble? Like what could be perfect? Your
Speaker 1: perfect night? It's to be honest, whether it be a
Speaker 1: group of girls or one girl. The main thing I
Speaker 1: don't know is that's difficult to answer. The main the
Speaker 1: main thing I'm genuinely looking for is kind of friends,
Speaker 1: people friends and people that are accepting that I can
Speaker 1: do it and be comfortable with and be open with.
Speaker 1: There definitely is the sexual side, but that's kind of
Speaker 1: dependent on on the person or the situation. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: like if you know, if I if I went on
Speaker 1: a sort of went on a date with someone, um
Speaker 1: and in maybe you know, if they really liked it.
Speaker 1: It's not not too many out there, but there are
Speaker 1: some women that get off on it as well. You know,
Speaker 1: they enjoy it, So I suppose that would be ideal,
Speaker 1: But genuinely just people that are open to it. When
Speaker 1: you're when you're dressed up, do you get into full
Speaker 1: characters and like, do you change your voice? Could we
Speaker 1: hear that? By any chance? Can we hear fifty? Absolutely not?
Speaker 1: I was so ready to hear. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: does it? I can't. I try a lot of people
Speaker 1: have say that for me, it's makeup when the makeup
Speaker 1: goes on. So it's not it's not even the clothes,
Speaker 1: it's makeup. Well, you're pretty much there with us then,
Speaker 1: because listen, I don't even like my outfit until I
Speaker 1: have my makeup on. So I can only equate this
Speaker 1: to like when I wear tims I get real New York.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you fucking talking to me, like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what happens when I put like Timberlains on it.
Speaker 1: But um, another question I had debt is from or
Speaker 1: someone name Christopher? What question are you tired of being asked?
Speaker 1: The most common question? I'm not tired of because I
Speaker 1: understand it. But is are you getting I could I
Speaker 1: could see that the number one question? Does anyone in
Speaker 1: your family know? No? But our close friends? I don't really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not particularly close to my family. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't really. Have you told a close friends a male friend?
Speaker 1: I feel like they maybe less accepting. Not someone I've
Speaker 1: known for a long a long time. Definitely friends that
Speaker 1: had known for a kind of one or two years
Speaker 1: who didn't know. I didn't old um, but kind of
Speaker 1: like you know, old friends from school, people have known
Speaker 1: twenty years and stuff. No, alright, Well, I think it's
Speaker 1: also harder for men like And it's funny because a
Speaker 1: lot of our male listeners say they love listening in
Speaker 1: on this because they don't get to hear women talk
Speaker 1: like this often, and I feel like men don't aren't
Speaker 1: really is open with their guy friends about what they
Speaker 1: really like. I've heard guys lie and say they don't
Speaker 1: like they asked, licked their fingers and maybe right legs
Speaker 1: spread open, get goddamn fingers jammed in their booty holes.
Speaker 1: So I think, I mean, I think it's just something
Speaker 1: I don't know why, Like I'm just saying just it.
Speaker 1: But like you and I and you with a lot
Speaker 1: of your other female friends, we talk about licking balls
Speaker 1: and licking ass and everything nasty we do. And I
Speaker 1: think girls just high five each other, like, girl, you nasty,
Speaker 1: But girl, go ahead. And do you feel like it
Speaker 1: is different with opening up to your male friends as
Speaker 1: it is opening up to your female friends. Yes, the
Speaker 1: difference with the male side is definitely the alpha male status, hypermasculinity.
Speaker 1: We always talk about that absolutely what it is You're
Speaker 1: gonna lose that, which is difficult. Right. Have you ever
Speaker 1: been like like someone wants to swipe you right to
Speaker 1: go off on you about it, like wuld be like
Speaker 1: this is fucking weird, blah blah blah. Not really, I've
Speaker 1: had I've had one or two messages where someone's matched
Speaker 1: and then just said you're fucking disgusting, you know you
Speaker 1: should die or something something like that, and then just
Speaker 1: deleted a conversation with someone. Someone went off on me
Speaker 1: early on in recording the episode, I told you I
Speaker 1: matched somebody on Tender and I talked I guess we
Speaker 1: like got into the sex talk and I talked about
Speaker 1: pegging and he brought in God, he brought in like yeah,
Speaker 1: he like went off on me. It was like like
Speaker 1: unmatched me. As soon as I said like that, I
Speaker 1: was into this and was like, you need to go
Speaker 1: to church because that is a sin, and how dare
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna play with a man's butthole? And
Speaker 1: he was really, really really and so I was yeah,
Speaker 1: like it was. It's crazy to know that you have
Speaker 1: had that same reaction just with you. And we we
Speaker 1: make fun all the time, but we're like no kink
Speaker 1: shaming because we get on and we talked about things
Speaker 1: that I know a lot of people are like, what, So,
Speaker 1: I want to describe what you look like because I
Speaker 1: feel like people think you look so crazy? Wait what
Speaker 1: I feel like people like this guy has to be weird.
Speaker 1: He like it's so crazy, because what was it? I
Speaker 1: think it was so fucking We even associated that with
Speaker 1: serial killers. So oh yeah, I was like, someone wants
Speaker 1: to kill you, they want to put a so but
Speaker 1: you know, like before I did this podcast, I just
Speaker 1: want to say, like I made a joke with someone like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I used to think golden showers were disgusting.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, whatever if on somebody who hairs and
Speaker 1: it's not that big a deal. So, like she even
Speaker 1: said how much she would get shipped on for she
Speaker 1: actually considered scat you. I mean we did it together,
Speaker 1: but so I I mean it was in the tens
Speaker 1: of thousands. I mean, did you hear that one? I
Speaker 1: had a friends? What you have friends that do this?
Speaker 1: Whoa oh? Ship. I had the two friends, both from work,
Speaker 1: and they dated. They were dating each other and then
Speaker 1: when they split up, the girl said that he wanted
Speaker 1: to ship it always been wanting to want to do it.
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore, Brian, you just keep wanting
Speaker 1: all over. She finally compromised. Wait no, but she she
Speaker 1: was naked and put clingfilm over her boobs. Wait so
Speaker 1: she she played yeah, and he shipped on the Suran
Speaker 1: rap ye on a chest. Do you know if it
Speaker 1: was like so we talked about this too? Three? Did
Speaker 1: she get there? Did she explain that? Was it like
Speaker 1: hard hurds or like I think it was? It was
Speaker 1: solid ship. It wasn't like yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: talked about what type of ship we would want on us.
Speaker 1: It wasn't running down her body but never talking about today.
Speaker 1: But you know it was not. I think it was
Speaker 1: disgusting enough. And at three, that's so young. Why do
Speaker 1: I expect everyone to be like like in their forties
Speaker 1: trying this ship like you know what I've done at all?
Speaker 1: Like today? Because this is it? Like you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of sucking in as let's get so. She
Speaker 1: told people this because it's I think a lot of
Speaker 1: we have men write us and want to try things,
Speaker 1: but are scared they're going to be quote unquote exposed.
Speaker 1: And of course a girl going around saying, Phil, you
Speaker 1: wanted to shoot on me could definitely like how did
Speaker 1: they do that? It would it definitely would do. I
Speaker 1: think in that instance he's going to get more high
Speaker 1: fives than the girl. Really well, she shouldn't have even
Speaker 1: wanted to say, because then you're admitting to being shipped on, bro,
Speaker 1: why would she? Ladies, ladies, listen, this exposing ship has
Speaker 1: got the start. Have you ever been outed quote unquote,
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. Uh no, not so certainly
Speaker 1: not to my knowledge, I haven't, but that is something
Speaker 1: that's like, you're not in fucking college or high school,
Speaker 1: Like maybe it's just that I want they still forty
Speaker 1: year olds have drama too, Yeah they do. And then
Speaker 1: you know, once you get older, you're in the more problems.
Speaker 1: I know, nice people, we're just a concert for Can
Speaker 1: I ask, like, um, since you're now you're living in
Speaker 1: New York, it's your first time living in the States,
Speaker 1: what are you fucking tired of from us? Besides us
Speaker 1: being dumb? And Donald Trump what else? Wait, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: right though, no Americans are dumb? Has anyone like not
Speaker 1: know one breaks? It is like, just tell me what
Speaker 1: ship is just killing you right now? This is I
Speaker 1: can't say this about insulting the nation. We insuld people
Speaker 1: all the fun paris. This is a ship whole country
Speaker 1: to be honest. Uh no, there's nothing. Really go ahead.
Speaker 1: You had it in your head, you like if you are,
Speaker 1: we too, gett like ok it like just it's the
Speaker 1: wird number one at you. I know that I'm not
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. I was in Singapore and bitch,
Speaker 1: I sure was like from America New York to be exact,
Speaker 1: but it's a big joke. I mean we had a
Speaker 1: moment at the time, so it wasn't too bad. But
Speaker 1: Trump was in the running. So everywhere I went they
Speaker 1: were like, are y'all really considering and be a fucking president?
Speaker 1: We literally less than a hundred something years ago. Dude,
Speaker 1: this is crazy ship. They have been number one, But
Speaker 1: somehow we've been able to literally what's the word like wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait what No, there is because we've literally been able
Speaker 1: to learn literally an embarrassing society. But the world to
Speaker 1: believe that we are the American dream. So this is
Speaker 1: the goal for a lot of people to end. Says
Speaker 1: you can start a business soon, doesn't mean you can
Speaker 1: fucking be of another race. I mean, you're right, but
Speaker 1: this happens everywhere else in the world. Our president and
Speaker 1: it was recorded that he would grab someone by the
Speaker 1: pussy and where made it? What does that say about
Speaker 1: us as a people that we ain't ship? I'm aware, okay,
Speaker 1: and we see why you're mad. Keep going. Are you
Speaker 1: like totally tired of girls? That topic does? Or? Wait,
Speaker 1: we sound like we have an accent though, right? Is
Speaker 1: our accent Southern? It's just Americans American, well, at least
Speaker 1: in America, we have different acts. Okay, what's something you've
Speaker 1: enjoyed while you're here? The food? I heard you, y'all,
Speaker 1: food is ship. You got good Indian food? Though England
Speaker 1: has great food, it's just not English food is every
Speaker 1: other country's food. They do have the top restaurants in
Speaker 1: the world, I think, right, like the most Michelin stars
Speaker 1: in I think, so yeah, why not? So yeah? What
Speaker 1: what have you enjoyed here? Then? I guess most um,
Speaker 1: I don't know the bar like the nightlife is quite cool.
Speaker 1: I guess the bars, I know, I struggle with that.
Speaker 1: Do you want to get for breakfast? I still like
Speaker 1: a fun English breakfast. Um, what's the big difference with
Speaker 1: American women and English women? I don't know. I haven't dated.
Speaker 1: I haven't dated English girls since I was for years,
Speaker 1: for years and years really and I don't know why,
Speaker 1: because that's kind of like new of American guys sort
Speaker 1: of sex different. So even when you were living in England,
Speaker 1: what was the race or ethnicity of the women that
Speaker 1: you dated over there? He was dipping in the childhood
Speaker 1: brown like Indian or Pakistanian or something color. I feel
Speaker 1: like Asian. I've lived in China for three years. It's
Speaker 1: definitely had a couple Asians. I had ash do you have?
Speaker 1: I don't discriminate. That's great, I mean I guess you
Speaker 1: can't because you're like, you better be open with my ships.
Speaker 1: I'll take so have you. I'm curious to know because
Speaker 1: we discussed a lot like this is a I mean
Speaker 1: predominantly black podcast, right like most of our listeners in
Speaker 1: the demographic, and we've found that a lot of these
Speaker 1: fetishes and a lot of this sex conversation is not
Speaker 1: common in the black community. Have you been with a
Speaker 1: black woman that knows about sissy or like matched with
Speaker 1: a black girl? Like, how's that? Then? Yes? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: So I tend to probably much of less black people
Speaker 1: than white people. Definitely, Um, but I knew I know
Speaker 1: quite a few pro dominatrix and then most of them
Speaker 1: are black. So it's certainly no, you know a lot
Speaker 1: from from that kind of aspect. We're good at sports.
Speaker 1: It's just but yeah, kind of from a from a
Speaker 1: more friends but like you know, not sexual side, not
Speaker 1: king side of friends side. That's right, you were wis
Speaker 1: We've got that mark? Yeah then um, yeah, not so
Speaker 1: many black people. But then this is the first This
Speaker 1: is definitely the place of being with the highest amount
Speaker 1: of black people, if that makes sense. So I don't
Speaker 1: ask you as we're talking about dating and who you've dated.
Speaker 1: I had this question and it's something that I'm us about.
Speaker 1: When you are sexual during your cross dressing in the bedroom,
Speaker 1: what is that like, Like, are you being pegged by
Speaker 1: a woman? Is it mostly once you take all the
Speaker 1: clothes off? Is it regular man and women play? What
Speaker 1: is the role when you're actually engaging in sex? Do
Speaker 1: you keep a brown do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Do you pull your pantis to the side, because we've
Speaker 1: been doing that ship, So, like, how is it sexually
Speaker 1: when you're cross dressing? It really depends on the on
Speaker 1: the other person. I am so easy going and fluid
Speaker 1: and comfortable and happy in different situations that I don't
Speaker 1: really mind. I like being spontaneous and going with the
Speaker 1: gum with the flow. It's really changed. I've had some
Speaker 1: people who, um, some women who have have wanted to
Speaker 1: have like just regular kind of like regular sex with
Speaker 1: me as a as a is that boring to you?
Speaker 1: It's not boring, but it's it's it's different, maybe you know,
Speaker 1: because maybe they've got slightly curious tendencies and you know,
Speaker 1: they've maybe thought about going with a girl before or something,
Speaker 1: and it is a little bit of a halfway house
Speaker 1: or a little bit of a tester. Also, I've had
Speaker 1: women that really that are kind of switch as well,
Speaker 1: and they like to dominate me, um, when I'm dressed up,
Speaker 1: but then they also like to be dominated, so they
Speaker 1: kind of we sort of start off you've dominated as no, no,
Speaker 1: So it's kind of switches kind of switched, like started
Speaker 1: off where their dominance. I'm submissive as as sissy. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of going like that, the kind of
Speaker 1: role play. Um, but then you know after x amount
Speaker 1: of time, you know they they're kind of like ripping
Speaker 1: the clothes in the week. I was about to say
Speaker 1: their schedule because they then want me to you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't want to be dominated. So do you flip
Speaker 1: back and forth? Like what is the discussion? I'm sure
Speaker 1: like it talked on the phone, Like do they say
Speaker 1: I want to see that her? I want Robbie denied her?
Speaker 1: Do you have saying that? Like how it's not really
Speaker 1: planned or discussion, it's just organic and just however however
Speaker 1: it happens. How long does it take you to get
Speaker 1: into system mode? Because you say you do a whole
Speaker 1: face and makeup, like the makeup is really really good.
Speaker 1: How long does this take a couple of hours? Maybe
Speaker 1: it depends. I mean I can do it quicker and
Speaker 1: it's going to be not as good, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: so the makeup, I'm okay, But the best photos of
Speaker 1: the makeup is not me that it's done. It is
Speaker 1: it has been friends definitely, Um, because I got one
Speaker 1: of my I think the picture that you have that
Speaker 1: you that you put up. That's actually a transsexual friend
Speaker 1: who is So she's from Iran Iranian transsexual but she's
Speaker 1: really really cool. So she's in England. I want to
Speaker 1: kind of promote her a little bit. She runs a
Speaker 1: company called Girls Will Boys Will Be Girls. So she
Speaker 1: runs a service where she does your makeup and dresses
Speaker 1: you up like photo shoots. So she's a professional makeup
Speaker 1: artist and she will either do like photo shoots with you,
Speaker 1: or she'll just take you for a walk if you
Speaker 1: want to walk around the city, or she'll take you
Speaker 1: to lunch or take you shopping or take you on
Speaker 1: a night out. She kind of provides a service where
Speaker 1: you know she's got for maybe people like myself, also
Speaker 1: maybe married people or somebody. Do you have to do
Speaker 1: it in secret and she gives her a whole experience
Speaker 1: to people. So we had the money. Honestly, you see
Speaker 1: how bad I am with with words. I called a
Speaker 1: fucking hat a bid day Jesus life coach. She's like
Speaker 1: your boy to be girl's life coach. I think she's
Speaker 1: more like a photography like getting people think she'll take
Speaker 1: you around, So I'm assuming she's like taking it around
Speaker 1: like while you're dressed up right, Yeah, yeah, of course club. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of for confidence, like a big thing.
Speaker 1: I think people have maybe a life coach. Then the
Speaker 1: people are worried about is not passing, you know, is
Speaker 1: being out and people recognizing that they're a guy and
Speaker 1: then being either maybe aggressive or not nice, but just
Speaker 1: you know, it becomes uncomfortable. I'm five ten. You just
Speaker 1: take that into American metrics? Is that way? I was thinking,
Speaker 1: which one you do? I forgot and so and in heells,
Speaker 1: you're so like a solid like six too, yeah, which
Speaker 1: is a good thing. That was really bad in China
Speaker 1: because everything very bad. But here, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: here she talks about it all the time, Like the
Speaker 1: women in meat packing are always like six ft, the
Speaker 1: all the models here. But yeah, so that's that's good
Speaker 1: for me. Could you be with someone that didn't accept
Speaker 1: sisy at all? It would be difficult. It depends. I
Speaker 1: guess if I really loved them and it was really
Speaker 1: what I wanted, I'd have to have to maybe sacrifice that,
Speaker 1: but it would certainly be difficult because I want to
Speaker 1: ask you that question, then is there something that Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is there something in the bedroom. Let's keep it in
Speaker 1: the bedroom. Is there something that if a partner would
Speaker 1: not allow you to do, you couldn't be with them?
Speaker 1: As far as He's kind of like, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's very hard for it to happen being when I'm
Speaker 1: with men. But if someone didn't like dominating me, I
Speaker 1: couldn't be with them because I'd want it somewhere else. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I could give it up, but like, probably not.
Speaker 1: I also couldn't give updating women. That's why, which is
Speaker 1: it's so funny because I feel like that's why I
Speaker 1: have this hone in on swinging lifestyle because when I
Speaker 1: was talking to Eric, he hated that I liked women
Speaker 1: and thought that he would not be able to fully
Speaker 1: compensate me in the bedroom. And I'm like, listen, whoever
Speaker 1: I'm with has to accept that I like women, and
Speaker 1: ironically I like women by themselves, so that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to bring them into the bedroom all
Speaker 1: of the time. Um, And so that's something that I
Speaker 1: think a lot of men would have to really find
Speaker 1: the confidence with dealing with that as well. I wonder though,
Speaker 1: like women that would like has anyone compromised for you
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out, You're like, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't like that a little bit. I suppose, Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't I can't really remember. One thing
Speaker 1: I could probably deal with would be fine is if
Speaker 1: they knew about it and accepted it but didn't want
Speaker 1: to see it. So it's so, it wasn't that I
Speaker 1: was lying to the more something I had to hide it.
Speaker 1: It was just, honey, I'm sending you to the grocery store.
Speaker 1: Take your time, like you know, I need you to
Speaker 1: leave the house now. Just be like, you know, if
Speaker 1: she was, if she was I don't know, out the
Speaker 1: girls for the weekend or something, and then instead of
Speaker 1: me having to do it in secret while she was
Speaker 1: at she knew, right, you know, okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do this. You know she sort of knew about it
Speaker 1: but just didn't want anything to do with it. That
Speaker 1: would that would be okay? Do you can you tell
Speaker 1: us about like your like the last bumble or the
Speaker 1: last Tinder or bumble date you went on, Like how
Speaker 1: did it go when as Sissy though not as Robbie.
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, they were the first, the only one
Speaker 1: I've been on as are you only been on one
Speaker 1: I know, well here only one so the dressed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was fun. As I said, we went
Speaker 1: to I can't remember the names, but a few different
Speaker 1: bars in West Village. Um, and it was just it
Speaker 1: was a fun night. It was. It's obviously a little
Speaker 1: bit not racking. I met so I met them at
Speaker 1: the bar. So it been the first time that, you know,
Speaker 1: we shouted, but it's the first time I met them. So,
Speaker 1: you know, you never quite know what's gonna happen. Did
Speaker 1: you guys end up sleeping together? Did you kiss at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. We didn't sleep together, Um,
Speaker 1: but we did see each other again. We went we
Speaker 1: went out. So last week we went out and I
Speaker 1: was Robbie. UM. So yeah, you know that's quite cool.
Speaker 1: I love it. Um. We have a question from one
Speaker 1: of our listeners. I wanted to if you could put
Speaker 1: your input on it. So this was something that someone
Speaker 1: I know asked me and she's like, she sent this in. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think I did see it in the d M
Speaker 1: Tech message. Okay, I think we got a similar question
Speaker 1: in the DM. So if my boyfriend is watching gay porn,
Speaker 1: should I be worried? Do I bring it up if
Speaker 1: I was the one who was sneaking around and found it,
Speaker 1: and how do I handle it? Okay, So can I
Speaker 1: answer this, um, And then I would love to hear
Speaker 1: your response as well. So I actually was speaking to
Speaker 1: a guy about this who who identifies as straight UM
Speaker 1: and he does watch not only transgender porn with with
Speaker 1: t S girls, but he also watches gay porn. And
Speaker 1: we had a long talk about this and I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: are you curious? Is there's something you're trying? You know
Speaker 1: that you want to try? And he broke it down
Speaker 1: to say that even in straight porn, the the way
Speaker 1: men are programmed, and even the way straight porn is filmed,
Speaker 1: they do a lot of accentuation on the dick, the
Speaker 1: dick going into the vagina, the guy getting a blowjob,
Speaker 1: and so he likes a good looking cock, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. And I hate the word cock, but that's
Speaker 1: kind of what he said. Yeah, So he's like, Um,
Speaker 1: the way we're programmed with watching porn and being even
Speaker 1: in the locker rooms, they all just flawn it like
Speaker 1: they see dicks all the time and it's nothing to them.
Speaker 1: But the way some men are programmed, they enjoy looking
Speaker 1: at nice ones, and so maybe he hasn't reached to
Speaker 1: the point because I have men in my phone who
Speaker 1: want to see other dicks that are in my phone.
Speaker 1: They want to see other dicks that I fused, and
Speaker 1: they want to they want to talk about it. The size,
Speaker 1: if it hurts me, if I like it, how don't
Speaker 1: think it means he's gay. He's I don't think it's
Speaker 1: he's gay either. I don't think you have to be
Speaker 1: even curious. So I've been watching some TS porn. I've tried,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't get my pussy as wet. I just
Speaker 1: can't stating it's doing for me, but like it's it's
Speaker 1: particularly the couple ones. The only one I can watch
Speaker 1: is TS Ashley Madison, and she is a a t
Speaker 1: S woman in d C. She sets up the camera
Speaker 1: in hotels and she she fox Yes, she fox straight
Speaker 1: black men, and she has a huge dick. I think
Speaker 1: that's my problem with TS girls is their dicks aren't
Speaker 1: big enough for me to really watch. I said the hormones.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, the hormones like probably make it smaller
Speaker 1: or you can't get hard. You don't know this answer
Speaker 1: the day. I don't think it's definite that you can take,
Speaker 1: and I think you can go because it is it's
Speaker 1: like it can't get hard a lot, or it's not
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking, it's the hormones that kind of sucks
Speaker 1: you up. You can got all this estrogen and you're
Speaker 1: not testosterone, so it's probably well, yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: can't even watch porns with little Dick Niggason, so I'll
Speaker 1: be like, um, next, well, I hopefully he's the bottom,
Speaker 1: particularly when the guy is like going down on on.
Speaker 1: I do like seeing that. Actually, right, what is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe because you low key want to
Speaker 1: see a man suck at it. Yeah, I watch a cock.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what it is. I don't know. So, um,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Do you think that she can
Speaker 1: ask your woyfriend about it if she snuck around oh asking? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that part, because she said she
Speaker 1: had to sneak in it. She was looking through his
Speaker 1: computer for something else and found that. What do you
Speaker 1: say she does? I say, next time they're watching porn,
Speaker 1: she just puts on that's a good idea, and then
Speaker 1: be like babe, I just want to sit here like
Speaker 1: I don't want to bug you out and freak you out.
Speaker 1: But I've been watching this lately, do you mind? And
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, like I'll be telling because guys
Speaker 1: want me to put my porn on all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell them straight up, it's not the porn
Speaker 1: you want to see. Player, it's not the porn you
Speaker 1: want to see. And I've told guys what type of
Speaker 1: porn I've watched, and I've had a response before that
Speaker 1: watch whatever gets you off. And so to me, that's
Speaker 1: him saying he don't mind seeing no two dicks bang,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what would be here. What was
Speaker 1: your advice to her? Definitely, don't let him know you're snooping.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't, don't tell, don't look. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Robbie shaking his head to like, don't do it. So
Speaker 1: I think the common thing right when women are worried
Speaker 1: about their guy being gay is oh my god, I
Speaker 1: thought he was manly or whatever. So just tell you
Speaker 1: what he looks like. He's six eight and he plays
Speaker 1: football or football basketball, huge makes sense, bralic guy. And
Speaker 1: she's like, this is gonna suck me up. I'm like, dude, why,
Speaker 1: Like he's been to jail. That's the biggest Like, that's like, well,
Speaker 1: probably why she's freaking worried. He was probably knocking boots
Speaker 1: behind the board. Well, I told her, like, if it,
Speaker 1: I don't really see how I could suck you up.
Speaker 1: It's just like, well, when we had the buy couple
Speaker 1: on the problem, maybe if he's the bottom, if he's
Speaker 1: yearning to have his ass played with and might be
Speaker 1: going out to get it, remember, he was like, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be worried if you're you know, if
Speaker 1: he's the top, it's the bottoms you have to worry about.
Speaker 1: And so, like I said, I think the good thing
Speaker 1: would be to play the porn, but maybe even to
Speaker 1: just when he's okay watching it, start asking questions we
Speaker 1: talked about all the time. Communication is key. Now, would
Speaker 1: she stop sucking with him if he's bisexual, that's on her,
Speaker 1: but I think it's important for her to communicate with
Speaker 1: him and make him comfortable to where he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to hide that he watched the new development she moved
Speaker 1: to the country. He's playing basketball, and because they're getting married,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I've never seen this after four years,
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, um, yeah, I like the watching porn.
Speaker 1: And then I'm talking like he'd be like what if
Speaker 1: he was right here? And I think it's something you
Speaker 1: should talk to her about, Like, well, would you be
Speaker 1: uncomfortable if he says he has curiosity about dealing with men?
Speaker 1: Is that something she wouldn't be She said she doesn't
Speaker 1: know yet. I don't think it's a big deal. Really. Well,
Speaker 1: you and I are a little bit different than majority
Speaker 1: of here we are with Robbie, I matched, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So all right girl, Um so I
Speaker 1: want to know. Um, I guess for our listeners, where
Speaker 1: can they search for Sissy if you want to? Do
Speaker 1: you want to make it open for our listeners? Um?
Speaker 1: So I have was She has an Instagram Instagram account
Speaker 1: which is Sissy under School made under School Alice, So yeah,
Speaker 1: you can you know the photos and stuff on that.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting yeah, especially with like you walking like
Speaker 1: the catwalk. I love that one. And UM will of
Speaker 1: course be posting um we already have posted a picture
Speaker 1: of Sissy to get questions from you guys. UM, but
Speaker 1: we'll be posting it again the week um that this
Speaker 1: episode drops, and we'll also put the information where you
Speaker 1: can find him in the description of this podcast. I
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Speaker 1: a bonus episode, and you get to see the full
Speaker 1: video for these episodes. Now there is not a video
Speaker 1: of Robbie's face, but there's us making a face every time,
Speaker 1: you know, like what and I'm sitting but I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for coming. I like, I really thought
Speaker 1: you weren't gonna show up. I've never thought She literally
Speaker 1: was like, can you have a backup because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just can't believe you're here. I was definitely nervous.
Speaker 1: Is still a little bit of She's the first time
Speaker 1: I know you said it over and over. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm so nervous, and like, can't you know? I love it?
Speaker 1: And this was easy and I think all of our
Speaker 1: listeners may get their panties. We listening to your accent
Speaker 1: because we like accents in America. That was the first
Speaker 1: just saying you're like, I'm Robbie from the Like fuck yeah.
Speaker 1: She was so excited to see you, Like I just
Speaker 1: love his accent and I'm so excited we're gonna have
Speaker 1: this accent. On the show, she was talking about you
Speaker 1: like you were an accent, like because I don't have
Speaker 1: an accent. You it is. It's this is an audio thing, right, So,
Speaker 1: like we're sitting here in this room, but people have
Speaker 1: their headphones on or they're at their desk where they're
Speaker 1: in their house, and like you hear something different to
Speaker 1: you that's for like we say Robbie, you say Ruby.
Speaker 1: It's different, you know, I just say okay. Um, guys,
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Speaker 1: yet another episode of Horrible Decisions. Bye oh