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Speaker 1: and join us at the Horrible Decisions one year Anniversary

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Speaker 1: live show that is in Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, May nineteenth

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Speaker 1: that is at the Plaza Theater at ten forty nine

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Speaker 1: Postill on Avenue. Again. Can't wait to see all of

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Speaker 1: you guys there now enjoy the show. So yeah, Hi, Hi, UM,

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess my nervous I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Can I just don't understand how I met someone online

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Speaker 1: and then now you're in front of me. It's weird.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be exciting. Um, Hi, guys, welcome to

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Speaker 1: yet another episode of Horrible Decisions. Um, this is your girl,

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Speaker 1: Mandy be and I'm sitting next to me and Weezy

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Speaker 1: and I'm we're sitting next to Sissy, well, Robbie, Sissy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to call you. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the proper pronoun right now? Actually, yeah, can we go

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Speaker 1: place into that. So let me tell you, guys, um,

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Speaker 1: on bumble and do you see these pages all the

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Speaker 1: I click on it and it's actually can I read it?

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Speaker 1: All right? Let me let me click on my I'm

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm onna. You're like back to really swiping now,

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Speaker 1: phone and you are on the prow ma'am, I'm just

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Speaker 1: having fun. Okay. Hey, I'm a part time cross dresser

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Speaker 1: and I love to dress up and become a sissy maid.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time, I'm a regular guy, but in

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Speaker 1: my spare time, I like dressing up in pretty outfits, makeup,

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Speaker 1: I ask you a question because clearly you guys matched,

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Speaker 1: Can you just come on my podcast? As I mean,

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Speaker 1: You look like a finance guy sort of. You don't

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Speaker 1: outside of I'm sorry, outside of your cross dressing life? Oh? Both? Really?

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Speaker 1: wrong with my life? I don't know why? Let me

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Speaker 1: So we have people that sent in questions for you. UM.

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Speaker 1: cross stressers. This is different from drag, but like, what

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Speaker 1: so involved maybe so if it doesn't go well, it's

424
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: not such a big issue. Have you ever had to

425
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 1: cheat for it, like someone who wasn't accepting of it?

426
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: Did you have to feel like you had to sneak

427
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: away to go do this with someone else? That's really

428
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: that's really good. I was just sure. I was waiting

429
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: for the stories I like because well, I'm at basketball

430
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: playing time in the gym. Well we say it all

431
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: the time too, Like, I think so many people suppress

432
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: things that they desire sexually because so many people are

433
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: not accepting of this type of stuff, and a lot

434
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: of times they will seek out either through online dating

435
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: apps or Craigslist or anywhere to find that to get

436
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: the herd away. And so I guess that's so most

437
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: people that you have dated who weren't accepting of it,

438
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: they pretty much just walked away a kind of yeah,

439
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: I guess you know, things just didn't work out or

440
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, but yeah, in terms of in

441
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: terms of I've tried to say, it's various girlfriends in

442
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: a variety of ways. Um, I think the easiest is

443
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: just to kind of get drunk and tell them. But

444
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 1: but that's exactly what the advice I've given people like

445
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: I have a crush on my friend, get drunk, Just

446
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: get drunk. I'm trying to really think you don't feel

447
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: any like like you know what I mean, Like you

448
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: don't have any inhibitions about it. The other person's got

449
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: to let their guard down to it's like, suck it.

450
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: So I do want to ask you, Wheezy, if you've

451
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: been dealing with lover boy for quite some time, if

452
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: this is something that he came to you and said

453
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: he enjoyed doing, is that like how would you react

454
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: to that? So, Like, I am such a pleaser that

455
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: I think I would do anything to like use anybody.

456
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: If I met someone on tender that said this, I

457
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: might swipe them left initially because I'm like, I don't

458
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: know how a deal. But if I'm already invested and

459
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: this is going to get you off, then fuck it.

460
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: I mean I'm already saying that I don't really give

461
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: a ship off that person. It's hetero flexible, right, Like,

462
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: this isn't that much crazier to me? Well, at least

463
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: you can't fit your clothes. So my mom and I

464
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: actually had a conversation funny enough, my mom. I was

465
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: telling my mom about having you on and she's like,

466
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, my ex husband used to want to

467
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: put my panties on all the time, she said. She

468
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: brought that up on the show. Yeah, and she's like,

469
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: so she starts telling me like how he would never

470
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: get fully dressed up. She's like, but it was like

471
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: he was so getting ready for it, And I wanted

472
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: to know, like how when you're easing it on someone,

473
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: Let's say, like, do you start with something small, like

474
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: have you ever been in the room and a girl's

475
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: brows there and you put it on and see what

476
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: she says, Yes, that's definitely that's that's kind of a

477
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: way to easing it. So someone's done that to me, really, yeah,

478
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: so that's kind of a way to tested you know,

479
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: you do it obviously kind of as a joke and

480
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: then engauge their reaction if she comes in and says, like,

481
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: what the funk are you doing? Get the funk out

482
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: of my clothes? You know it's crazy about it, then

483
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,239
Speaker 1: you're quite okay, maybe you know this is not gonna work, right.

484
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: I feel like men do this a lot with pegging. Well, Peggy,

485
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: I would say, they start really a tongue, then a finger,

486
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: then lifted up like yeah, like they kind of let

487
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of want to. So I know

488
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: you said you're on tender. We just had UM a

489
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: couple episodes ago, an entire episode on online dating. Are

490
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: there any sites for people who enjoy cross dressing and

491
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: people who enjoy being with someone who cross dresses? Would

492
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: do you know of any online dating sites for that?

493
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: Not really, Like there's a couple of kind of sites obviously,

494
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: places like fat life and these kind of sites. Um,

495
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: and there's a couple of others, but it's mainly just

496
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of voyears. It's not really all people that are

497
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: going to get into it. Yeah, it's just kind of

498
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: like keyboard people. It's not you know, it's it's not

499
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: they're not serious. Was like, your so I'm sure, like

500
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: someone was like I can see a girl sitting there

501
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: and be like, this guy's gonna clean my house. Yeah.

502
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: Can you talk about like the perfect scenario in terms

503
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: of like the way someone treats you and like how

504
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: the night could end, like whether it be sex, whether

505
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: it be them dominating you, Like how what is what

506
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: you want from bubble? Like what could be perfect? Your

507
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: perfect night? It's to be honest, whether it be a

508
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: group of girls or one girl. The main thing I

509
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: don't know is that's difficult to answer. The main the

510
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: main thing I'm genuinely looking for is kind of friends,

511
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: people friends and people that are accepting that I can

512
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: do it and be comfortable with and be open with.

513
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: There definitely is the sexual side, but that's kind of

514
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: dependent on on the person or the situation. Um yeah,

515
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: like if you know, if I if I went on

516
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: a sort of went on a date with someone, um

517
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: and in maybe you know, if they really liked it.

518
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: It's not not too many out there, but there are

519
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: some women that get off on it as well. You know,

520
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: they enjoy it, So I suppose that would be ideal,

521
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: But genuinely just people that are open to it. When

522
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: you're when you're dressed up, do you get into full

523
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: characters and like, do you change your voice? Could we

524
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: hear that? By any chance? Can we hear fifty? Absolutely not?

525
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: I was so ready to hear. I'll tell you what

526
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: does it? I can't. I try a lot of people

527
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: have say that for me, it's makeup when the makeup

528
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: goes on. So it's not it's not even the clothes,

529
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: it's makeup. Well, you're pretty much there with us then,

530
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: because listen, I don't even like my outfit until I

531
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: have my makeup on. So I can only equate this

532
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: to like when I wear tims I get real New York.

533
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, you fucking talking to me, like, I don't

534
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: know what happens when I put like Timberlains on it.

535
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: But um, another question I had debt is from or

536
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: someone name Christopher? What question are you tired of being asked?

537
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: The most common question? I'm not tired of because I

538
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: understand it. But is are you getting I could I

539
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: could see that the number one question? Does anyone in

540
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: your family know? No? But our close friends? I don't really. Yeah,

541
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm not particularly close to my family. I don't. I

542
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: don't really. Have you told a close friends a male friend?

543
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: I feel like they maybe less accepting. Not someone I've

544
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: known for a long a long time. Definitely friends that

545
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: had known for a kind of one or two years

546
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: who didn't know. I didn't old um, but kind of

547
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: like you know, old friends from school, people have known

548
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: twenty years and stuff. No, alright, Well, I think it's

549
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: also harder for men like And it's funny because a

550
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: lot of our male listeners say they love listening in

551
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: on this because they don't get to hear women talk

552
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: like this often, and I feel like men don't aren't

553
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: really is open with their guy friends about what they

554
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: really like. I've heard guys lie and say they don't

555
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: like they asked, licked their fingers and maybe right legs

556
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: spread open, get goddamn fingers jammed in their booty holes.

557
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: So I think, I mean, I think it's just something

558
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't know why, Like I'm just saying just it.

559
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: But like you and I and you with a lot

560
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: of your other female friends, we talk about licking balls

561
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: and licking ass and everything nasty we do. And I

562
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: think girls just high five each other, like, girl, you nasty,

563
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: But girl, go ahead. And do you feel like it

564
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: is different with opening up to your male friends as

565
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: it is opening up to your female friends. Yes, the

566
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: difference with the male side is definitely the alpha male status, hypermasculinity.

567
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: We always talk about that absolutely what it is You're

568
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna lose that, which is difficult. Right. Have you ever

569
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: been like like someone wants to swipe you right to

570
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: go off on you about it, like wuld be like

571
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: this is fucking weird, blah blah blah. Not really, I've

572
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: had I've had one or two messages where someone's matched

573
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: and then just said you're fucking disgusting, you know you

574
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: should die or something something like that, and then just

575
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: deleted a conversation with someone. Someone went off on me

576
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: early on in recording the episode, I told you I

577
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: matched somebody on Tender and I talked I guess we

578
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: like got into the sex talk and I talked about

579
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: pegging and he brought in God, he brought in like yeah,

580
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: he like went off on me. It was like like

581
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: unmatched me. As soon as I said like that, I

582
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: was into this and was like, you need to go

583
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: to church because that is a sin, and how dare

584
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna play with a man's butthole? And

585
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: he was really, really really and so I was yeah,

586
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: like it was. It's crazy to know that you have

587
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: had that same reaction just with you. And we we

588
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: make fun all the time, but we're like no kink

589
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: shaming because we get on and we talked about things

590
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: that I know a lot of people are like, what, So,

591
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: I want to describe what you look like because I

592
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: feel like people think you look so crazy? Wait what

593
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: I feel like people like this guy has to be weird.

594
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: He like it's so crazy, because what was it? I

595
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: think it was so fucking We even associated that with

596
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: serial killers. So oh yeah, I was like, someone wants

597
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: to kill you, they want to put a so but

598
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, like before I did this podcast, I just

599
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: want to say, like I made a joke with someone like,

600
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, I used to think golden showers were disgusting.

601
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, whatever if on somebody who hairs and

602
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: it's not that big a deal. So, like she even

603
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: said how much she would get shipped on for she

604
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: actually considered scat you. I mean we did it together,

605
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: but so I I mean it was in the tens

606
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: of thousands. I mean, did you hear that one? I

607
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: had a friends? What you have friends that do this?

608
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Whoa oh? Ship. I had the two friends, both from work,

609
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: and they dated. They were dating each other and then

610
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: when they split up, the girl said that he wanted

611
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: to ship it always been wanting to want to do it.

612
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore, Brian, you just keep wanting

613
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: all over. She finally compromised. Wait no, but she she

614
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: was naked and put clingfilm over her boobs. Wait so

615
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: she she played yeah, and he shipped on the Suran

616
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: rap ye on a chest. Do you know if it

617
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: was like so we talked about this too? Three? Did

618
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: she get there? Did she explain that? Was it like

619
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: hard hurds or like I think it was? It was

620
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: solid ship. It wasn't like yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't

621
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: talked about what type of ship we would want on us.

622
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't running down her body but never talking about today.

623
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: But you know it was not. I think it was

624
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: disgusting enough. And at three, that's so young. Why do

625
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: I expect everyone to be like like in their forties

626
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: trying this ship like you know what I've done at all?

627
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: Like today? Because this is it? Like you know what,

628
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm tired of sucking in as let's get so. She

629
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: told people this because it's I think a lot of

630
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: we have men write us and want to try things,

631
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: but are scared they're going to be quote unquote exposed.

632
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: And of course a girl going around saying, Phil, you

633
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: wanted to shoot on me could definitely like how did

634
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: they do that? It would it definitely would do. I

635
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: think in that instance he's going to get more high

636
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: fives than the girl. Really well, she shouldn't have even

637
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: wanted to say, because then you're admitting to being shipped on, bro,

638
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: why would she? Ladies, ladies, listen, this exposing ship has

639
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: got the start. Have you ever been outed quote unquote,

640
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. Uh no, not so certainly

641
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: not to my knowledge, I haven't, but that is something

642
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: that's like, you're not in fucking college or high school,

643
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Like maybe it's just that I want they still forty

644
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: year olds have drama too, Yeah they do. And then

645
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, once you get older, you're in the more problems.

646
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: I know, nice people, we're just a concert for Can

647
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: I ask, like, um, since you're now you're living in

648
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: New York, it's your first time living in the States,

649
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: what are you fucking tired of from us? Besides us

650
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: being dumb? And Donald Trump what else? Wait, yeah, you're

651
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: right though, no Americans are dumb? Has anyone like not

652
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: know one breaks? It is like, just tell me what

653
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: ship is just killing you right now? This is I

654
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: can't say this about insulting the nation. We insuld people

655
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: all the fun paris. This is a ship whole country

656
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: to be honest. Uh no, there's nothing. Really go ahead.

657
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: You had it in your head, you like if you are,

658
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: we too, gett like ok it like just it's the

659
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: wird number one at you. I know that I'm not

660
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. I was in Singapore and bitch,

661
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: I sure was like from America New York to be exact,

662
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: but it's a big joke. I mean we had a

663
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: moment at the time, so it wasn't too bad. But

664
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: Trump was in the running. So everywhere I went they

665
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: were like, are y'all really considering and be a fucking president?

666
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: We literally less than a hundred something years ago. Dude,

667
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: this is crazy ship. They have been number one, But

668
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: somehow we've been able to literally what's the word like wait, wait,

669
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: wait what No, there is because we've literally been able

670
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: to learn literally an embarrassing society. But the world to

671
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: believe that we are the American dream. So this is

672
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: the goal for a lot of people to end. Says

673
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: you can start a business soon, doesn't mean you can

674
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: fucking be of another race. I mean, you're right, but

675
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: this happens everywhere else in the world. Our president and

676
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: it was recorded that he would grab someone by the

677
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: pussy and where made it? What does that say about

678
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: us as a people that we ain't ship? I'm aware, okay,

679
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: and we see why you're mad. Keep going. Are you

680
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: like totally tired of girls? That topic does? Or? Wait,

681
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: we sound like we have an accent though, right? Is

682
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: our accent Southern? It's just Americans American, well, at least

683
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: in America, we have different acts. Okay, what's something you've

684
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: enjoyed while you're here? The food? I heard you, y'all,

685
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: food is ship. You got good Indian food? Though England

686
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: has great food, it's just not English food is every

687
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: other country's food. They do have the top restaurants in

688
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: the world, I think, right, like the most Michelin stars

689
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: in I think, so yeah, why not? So yeah? What

690
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: what have you enjoyed here? Then? I guess most um,

691
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: I don't know the bar like the nightlife is quite cool.

692
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: I guess the bars, I know, I struggle with that.

693
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: Do you want to get for breakfast? I still like

694
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: a fun English breakfast. Um, what's the big difference with

695
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: American women and English women? I don't know. I haven't dated.

696
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: I haven't dated English girls since I was for years,

697
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: for years and years really and I don't know why,

698
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: because that's kind of like new of American guys sort

699
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: of sex different. So even when you were living in England,

700
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: what was the race or ethnicity of the women that

701
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: you dated over there? He was dipping in the childhood

702
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: brown like Indian or Pakistanian or something color. I feel

703
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: like Asian. I've lived in China for three years. It's

704
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: definitely had a couple Asians. I had ash do you have?

705
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: I don't discriminate. That's great, I mean I guess you

706
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: can't because you're like, you better be open with my ships.

707
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: I'll take so have you. I'm curious to know because

708
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: we discussed a lot like this is a I mean

709
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: predominantly black podcast, right like most of our listeners in

710
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: the demographic, and we've found that a lot of these

711
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: fetishes and a lot of this sex conversation is not

712
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: common in the black community. Have you been with a

713
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: black woman that knows about sissy or like matched with

714
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: a black girl? Like, how's that? Then? Yes? Yes or no?

715
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: So I tend to probably much of less black people

716
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: than white people. Definitely, Um, but I knew I know

717
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: quite a few pro dominatrix and then most of them

718
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: are black. So it's certainly no, you know a lot

719
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: from from that kind of aspect. We're good at sports.

720
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: It's just but yeah, kind of from a from a

721
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: more friends but like you know, not sexual side, not

722
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: king side of friends side. That's right, you were wis

723
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: We've got that mark? Yeah then um, yeah, not so

724
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: many black people. But then this is the first This

725
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: is definitely the place of being with the highest amount

726
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: of black people, if that makes sense. So I don't

727
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: ask you as we're talking about dating and who you've dated.

728
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: I had this question and it's something that I'm us about.

729
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: When you are sexual during your cross dressing in the bedroom,

730
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: what is that like, Like, are you being pegged by

731
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: a woman? Is it mostly once you take all the

732
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: clothes off? Is it regular man and women play? What

733
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: is the role when you're actually engaging in sex? Do

734
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: you keep a brown do you know what I mean?

735
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Do you pull your pantis to the side, because we've

736
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: been doing that ship, So, like, how is it sexually

737
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: when you're cross dressing? It really depends on the on

738
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: the other person. I am so easy going and fluid

739
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: and comfortable and happy in different situations that I don't

740
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: really mind. I like being spontaneous and going with the

741
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: gum with the flow. It's really changed. I've had some

742
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: people who, um, some women who have have wanted to

743
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: have like just regular kind of like regular sex with

744
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: me as a as a is that boring to you?

745
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: It's not boring, but it's it's it's different, maybe you know,

746
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: because maybe they've got slightly curious tendencies and you know,

747
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: they've maybe thought about going with a girl before or something,

748
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: and it is a little bit of a halfway house

749
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: or a little bit of a tester. Also, I've had

750
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: women that really that are kind of switch as well,

751
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: and they like to dominate me, um, when I'm dressed up,

752
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: but then they also like to be dominated, so they

753
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: kind of we sort of start off you've dominated as no, no,

754
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: So it's kind of switches kind of switched, like started

755
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: off where their dominance. I'm submissive as as sissy. You know,

756
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: it's just kind of going like that, the kind of

757
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: role play. Um, but then you know after x amount

758
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: of time, you know they they're kind of like ripping

759
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: the clothes in the week. I was about to say

760
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: their schedule because they then want me to you know,

761
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: they didn't want to be dominated. So do you flip

762
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: back and forth? Like what is the discussion? I'm sure

763
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: like it talked on the phone, Like do they say

764
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: I want to see that her? I want Robbie denied her?

765
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: Do you have saying that? Like how it's not really

766
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: planned or discussion, it's just organic and just however however

767
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: it happens. How long does it take you to get

768
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: into system mode? Because you say you do a whole

769
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: face and makeup, like the makeup is really really good.

770
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: How long does this take a couple of hours? Maybe

771
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: it depends. I mean I can do it quicker and

772
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: it's going to be not as good, you know. Um,

773
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: so the makeup, I'm okay, But the best photos of

774
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: the makeup is not me that it's done. It is

775
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: it has been friends definitely, Um, because I got one

776
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: of my I think the picture that you have that

777
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: you that you put up. That's actually a transsexual friend

778
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: who is So she's from Iran Iranian transsexual but she's

779
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: really really cool. So she's in England. I want to

780
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: kind of promote her a little bit. She runs a

781
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: company called Girls Will Boys Will Be Girls. So she

782
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: runs a service where she does your makeup and dresses

783
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: you up like photo shoots. So she's a professional makeup

784
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: artist and she will either do like photo shoots with you,

785
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: or she'll just take you for a walk if you

786
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: want to walk around the city, or she'll take you

787
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: to lunch or take you shopping or take you on

788
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: a night out. She kind of provides a service where

789
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: you know she's got for maybe people like myself, also

790
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: maybe married people or somebody. Do you have to do

791
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: it in secret and she gives her a whole experience

792
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: to people. So we had the money. Honestly, you see

793
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: how bad I am with with words. I called a

794
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: fucking hat a bid day Jesus life coach. She's like

795
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: your boy to be girl's life coach. I think she's

796
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: more like a photography like getting people think she'll take

797
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 1: you around, So I'm assuming she's like taking it around

798
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: like while you're dressed up right, Yeah, yeah, of course club. Yeah,

799
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: so it's kind of for confidence, like a big thing.

800
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: I think people have maybe a life coach. Then the

801
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: people are worried about is not passing, you know, is

802
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: being out and people recognizing that they're a guy and

803
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: then being either maybe aggressive or not nice, but just

804
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: you know, it becomes uncomfortable. I'm five ten. You just

805
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: take that into American metrics? Is that way? I was thinking,

806
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: which one you do? I forgot and so and in heells,

807
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: you're so like a solid like six too, yeah, which

808
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: is a good thing. That was really bad in China

809
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: because everything very bad. But here, I mean, I mean

810
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: here she talks about it all the time, Like the

811
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: women in meat packing are always like six ft, the

812
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: all the models here. But yeah, so that's that's good

813
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: for me. Could you be with someone that didn't accept

814
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: sisy at all? It would be difficult. It depends. I

815
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: guess if I really loved them and it was really

816
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: what I wanted, I'd have to have to maybe sacrifice that,

817
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: but it would certainly be difficult because I want to

818
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: ask you that question, then is there something that Yeah?

819
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: Is there something in the bedroom. Let's keep it in

820
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: the bedroom. Is there something that if a partner would

821
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: not allow you to do, you couldn't be with them?

822
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: As far as He's kind of like, I feel like

823
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: it's very hard for it to happen being when I'm

824
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: with men. But if someone didn't like dominating me, I

825
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: couldn't be with them because I'd want it somewhere else. Okay,

826
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: I think I could give it up, but like, probably not.

827
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I also couldn't give updating women. That's why, which is

828
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: it's so funny because I feel like that's why I

829
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: have this hone in on swinging lifestyle because when I

830
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: was talking to Eric, he hated that I liked women

831
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: and thought that he would not be able to fully

832
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: compensate me in the bedroom. And I'm like, listen, whoever

833
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm with has to accept that I like women, and

834
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: ironically I like women by themselves, so that doesn't mean

835
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to bring them into the bedroom all

836
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: of the time. Um, And so that's something that I

837
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: think a lot of men would have to really find

838
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: the confidence with dealing with that as well. I wonder though,

839
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: like women that would like has anyone compromised for you

840
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out, You're like, oh, yeah, you

841
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: don't like that a little bit. I suppose, Um, I

842
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't I can't really remember. One thing

843
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: I could probably deal with would be fine is if

844
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: they knew about it and accepted it but didn't want

845
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: to see it. So it's so, it wasn't that I

846
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: was lying to the more something I had to hide it.

847
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: It was just, honey, I'm sending you to the grocery store.

848
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: Take your time, like you know, I need you to

849
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: leave the house now. Just be like, you know, if

850
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: she was, if she was I don't know, out the

851
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: girls for the weekend or something, and then instead of

852
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: me having to do it in secret while she was

853
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: at she knew, right, you know, okay, I'm going to

854
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: do this. You know she sort of knew about it

855
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: but just didn't want anything to do with it. That

856
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: would that would be okay? Do you can you tell

857
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: us about like your like the last bumble or the

858
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: last Tinder or bumble date you went on, Like how

859
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: did it go when as Sissy though not as Robbie.

860
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, they were the first, the only one

861
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: I've been on as are you only been on one

862
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: I know, well here only one so the dressed up. Yeah,

863
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: it was. It was fun. As I said, we went

864
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: to I can't remember the names, but a few different

865
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: bars in West Village. Um, and it was just it

866
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: was a fun night. It was. It's obviously a little

867
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: bit not racking. I met so I met them at

868
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: the bar. So it been the first time that, you know,

869
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: we shouted, but it's the first time I met them. So,

870
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, you never quite know what's gonna happen. Did

871
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: you guys end up sleeping together? Did you kiss at

872
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: the end of the day. We didn't sleep together, Um,

873
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: but we did see each other again. We went we

874
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: went out. So last week we went out and I

875
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: was Robbie. UM. So yeah, you know that's quite cool.

876
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: I love it. Um. We have a question from one

877
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: of our listeners. I wanted to if you could put

878
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: your input on it. So this was something that someone

879
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: I know asked me and she's like, she sent this in. Oh,

880
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: I think I did see it in the d M

881
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: Tech message. Okay, I think we got a similar question

882
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: in the DM. So if my boyfriend is watching gay porn,

883
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: should I be worried? Do I bring it up if

884
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: I was the one who was sneaking around and found it,

885
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: and how do I handle it? Okay, So can I

886
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: answer this, um, And then I would love to hear

887
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: your response as well. So I actually was speaking to

888
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: a guy about this who who identifies as straight UM

889
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: and he does watch not only transgender porn with with

890
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: t S girls, but he also watches gay porn. And

891
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: we had a long talk about this and I was like, uh,

892
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: are you curious? Is there's something you're trying? You know

893
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: that you want to try? And he broke it down

894
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: to say that even in straight porn, the the way

895
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: men are programmed, and even the way straight porn is filmed,

896
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: they do a lot of accentuation on the dick, the

897
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: dick going into the vagina, the guy getting a blowjob,

898
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: and so he likes a good looking cock, if that

899
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: makes sense. And I hate the word cock, but that's

900
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: kind of what he said. Yeah, So he's like, Um,

901
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: the way we're programmed with watching porn and being even

902
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: in the locker rooms, they all just flawn it like

903
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: they see dicks all the time and it's nothing to them.

904
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: But the way some men are programmed, they enjoy looking

905
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: at nice ones, and so maybe he hasn't reached to

906
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: the point because I have men in my phone who

907
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: want to see other dicks that are in my phone.

908
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: They want to see other dicks that I fused, and

909
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: they want to they want to talk about it. The size,

910
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: if it hurts me, if I like it, how don't

911
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: think it means he's gay. He's I don't think it's

912
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: he's gay either. I don't think you have to be

913
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: even curious. So I've been watching some TS porn. I've tried,

914
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: like it doesn't get my pussy as wet. I just

915
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: can't stating it's doing for me, but like it's it's

916
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: particularly the couple ones. The only one I can watch

917
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: is TS Ashley Madison, and she is a a t

918
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: S woman in d C. She sets up the camera

919
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: in hotels and she she fox Yes, she fox straight

920
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: black men, and she has a huge dick. I think

921
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: that's my problem with TS girls is their dicks aren't

922
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: big enough for me to really watch. I said the hormones.

923
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, the hormones like probably make it smaller

924
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: or you can't get hard. You don't know this answer

925
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: the day. I don't think it's definite that you can take,

926
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: and I think you can go because it is it's

927
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: like it can't get hard a lot, or it's not

928
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking, it's the hormones that kind of sucks

929
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: you up. You can got all this estrogen and you're

930
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: not testosterone, so it's probably well, yeah, I know, I

931
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: can't even watch porns with little Dick Niggason, so I'll

932
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: be like, um, next, well, I hopefully he's the bottom,

933
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: particularly when the guy is like going down on on.

934
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: I do like seeing that. Actually, right, what is it?

935
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe because you low key want to

936
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: see a man suck at it. Yeah, I watch a cock.

937
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what it is. I don't know. So, um,

938
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: what do you think? Do you think that she can

939
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: ask your woyfriend about it if she snuck around oh asking? Yeah,

940
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't know about that part, because she said she

941
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: had to sneak in it. She was looking through his

942
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: computer for something else and found that. What do you

943
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: say she does? I say, next time they're watching porn,

944
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: she just puts on that's a good idea, and then

945
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: be like babe, I just want to sit here like

946
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to bug you out and freak you out.

947
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: But I've been watching this lately, do you mind? And

948
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, like I'll be telling because guys

949
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: want me to put my porn on all the time,

950
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: and I'll tell them straight up, it's not the porn

951
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: you want to see. Player, it's not the porn you

952
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: want to see. And I've told guys what type of

953
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: porn I've watched, and I've had a response before that

954
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: watch whatever gets you off. And so to me, that's

955
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: him saying he don't mind seeing no two dicks bang,

956
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: but I don't know what would be here. What was

957
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: your advice to her? Definitely, don't let him know you're snooping.

958
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't, don't tell, don't look. Yeah,

959
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: Robbie shaking his head to like, don't do it. So

960
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: I think the common thing right when women are worried

961
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: about their guy being gay is oh my god, I

962
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: thought he was manly or whatever. So just tell you

963
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: what he looks like. He's six eight and he plays

964
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: football or football basketball, huge makes sense, bralic guy. And

965
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: she's like, this is gonna suck me up. I'm like, dude, why,

966
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: Like he's been to jail. That's the biggest Like, that's like, well,

967
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: probably why she's freaking worried. He was probably knocking boots

968
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: behind the board. Well, I told her, like, if it,

969
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't really see how I could suck you up.

970
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: It's just like, well, when we had the buy couple

971
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: on the problem, maybe if he's the bottom, if he's

972
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: yearning to have his ass played with and might be

973
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: going out to get it, remember, he was like, you

974
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: don't have to be worried if you're you know, if

975
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: he's the top, it's the bottoms you have to worry about.

976
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: And so, like I said, I think the good thing

977
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: would be to play the porn, but maybe even to

978
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: just when he's okay watching it, start asking questions we

979
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: talked about all the time. Communication is key. Now, would

980
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: she stop sucking with him if he's bisexual, that's on her,

981
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: but I think it's important for her to communicate with

982
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: him and make him comfortable to where he doesn't have

983
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: to hide that he watched the new development she moved

984
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: to the country. He's playing basketball, and because they're getting married,

985
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: and she's like, I've never seen this after four years,

986
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, um, yeah, I like the watching porn.

987
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: And then I'm talking like he'd be like what if

988
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: he was right here? And I think it's something you

989
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: should talk to her about, Like, well, would you be

990
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: uncomfortable if he says he has curiosity about dealing with men?

991
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: Is that something she wouldn't be She said she doesn't

992
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: know yet. I don't think it's a big deal. Really. Well,

993
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: you and I are a little bit different than majority

994
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: of here we are with Robbie, I matched, Um, yeah,

995
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. So all right girl, Um so I

996
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: want to know. Um, I guess for our listeners, where

997
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: can they search for Sissy if you want to? Do

998
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: you want to make it open for our listeners? Um?

999
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: So I have was She has an Instagram Instagram account

1000
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: which is Sissy under School made under School Alice, So yeah,

1001
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: you can you know the photos and stuff on that.

1002
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: It's an interesting yeah, especially with like you walking like

1003
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: the catwalk. I love that one. And UM will of

1004
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: course be posting um we already have posted a picture

1005
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: of Sissy to get questions from you guys. UM, but

1006
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: we'll be posting it again the week um that this

1007
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: episode drops, and we'll also put the information where you

1008
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: can find him in the description of this podcast. I

1009
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: also wanted to go ahead and shout out all of

1010
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: our patrons, Um, thank you guys, so so so so

1011
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: so so so very much for all of your um

1012
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: subscriptions donations, saying thank you for your money, you know,

1013
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: thank you for your points. You keep your paying because

1014
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: we're in the studio right now and it's nice and

1015
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: there's air conditioning and water and yeah, yeah it's one.

1016
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: And also, um, I'm not sure if we've released it

1017
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: by this time, but we are working hard on merchandise. UM,

1018
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: so keeping keep keeping tune with when we're going to

1019
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: be posting our T shirts. And we're excited. Me I'm

1020
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: um creating one and weez he is creating another. So um,

1021
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: yeah she can think that. I think mine is gonna

1022
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: be way better. Um. But yeah, and so you can

1023
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: go ahead and become a patron at patreon dot com

1024
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: backslash horrible decisions. Um for a very few little tiny

1025
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: bit of dollars that you make, honey, you get bonus content,

1026
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: a bonus episode, and you get to see the full

1027
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: video for these episodes. Now there is not a video

1028
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 1: of Robbie's face, but there's us making a face every time,

1029
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, like what and I'm sitting but I want

1030
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: to thank you for coming. I like, I really thought

1031
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: you weren't gonna show up. I've never thought She literally

1032
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: was like, can you have a backup because I don't know.

1033
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 1: I just can't believe you're here. I was definitely nervous.

1034
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: Is still a little bit of She's the first time

1035
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: I know you said it over and over. You're like,

1036
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm so nervous, and like, can't you know? I love it?

1037
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: And this was easy and I think all of our

1038
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: listeners may get their panties. We listening to your accent

1039
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: because we like accents in America. That was the first

1040
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: just saying you're like, I'm Robbie from the Like fuck yeah.

1041
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: She was so excited to see you, Like I just

1042
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: love his accent and I'm so excited we're gonna have

1043
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: this accent. On the show, she was talking about you

1044
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: like you were an accent, like because I don't have

1045
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: an accent. You it is. It's this is an audio thing, right, So,

1046
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: like we're sitting here in this room, but people have

1047
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: their headphones on or they're at their desk where they're

1048
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: in their house, and like you hear something different to

1049
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: you that's for like we say Robbie, you say Ruby.

1050
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: It's different, you know, I just say okay. Um, guys,

1051
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: if you want to go ahead, and if you want

1052
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: to go ahead and follow us, you can follow us

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