Speaker 1: What do you think was the difference for you? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you think was it grace of God? Was
Speaker 1: it something special you did?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Why do you think because Burbs is big? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That was my first bro?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 1: You just got abs and hair and followers at the bird?
Speaker 3: God just give him everything? What up? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Welcome to Not My Best Moment with me kep on Stage,
Speaker 1: a podcast where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers and
Speaker 1: personal friends people I admire about their failures, based off
Speaker 1: my book Successful Failure, which by the way, is a
Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller if I do say so myself.
Speaker 1: Today we are joined by Charles Brockman, the third. Two
Speaker 1: other Charles Brockman's before him, and there may be many
Speaker 1: more after him, but he is a third. You might
Speaker 1: know him by CB three on social media. He's an actor, writer, director,
Speaker 1: singer and parody content creator. You may have seen him
Speaker 1: in his short Thanks for Listening. You've also seen him
Speaker 1: in The Burbs, Bougie, Bloody Mary, and Locked Up for Christmas.
Speaker 1: You've probably seen him down to the TikTok, the Instagram
Speaker 1: reels or YouTube shorts. I found him down on the
Speaker 1: TikTok and down to the gram. He has an incredibly
Speaker 1: popular YouTube channel which has over six point seven million
Speaker 1: subscribers and down to the top eight point eight million subscribers.
Speaker 1: Because Charles is so very talented, please welcome Charles bark
Speaker 1: On the third.
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Now? Should I call you Charles? CB three? CB three
Speaker 3: the third?
Speaker 2: All of them work?
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna call you c B.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: We found Now we usually talk to either content creators,
Speaker 1: actors or athletes. Fun fact, prior to any of this,
Speaker 1: you were an athletes. Athlete, okay, current right now, as
Speaker 1: we live and breathe today, you still hold the Mississippi
Speaker 1: State freshman record for the four hundred meter hurdles at
Speaker 1: fifty zero point three six seconds.
Speaker 3: Yes, I ain't know you was no athlete.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't.
Speaker 3: You were a hurdler.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: My wife was a hurdler.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't.
Speaker 3: She ran the three hundred lows in high school.
Speaker 1: They wanted to run the you know, they go open
Speaker 1: quarter in college, but she was like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to run with them girls. They faster than me. I said,
Speaker 1: you fast. She used to run the four by one,
Speaker 1: four by four. Her sister was a four hundred runner.
Speaker 1: The four hundred hurdles is a very difficult event still
Speaker 1: technically a sprint.
Speaker 3: Anything under four hundred is technically a sprint. How was
Speaker 3: it growing?
Speaker 1: Because if you have the record, that means you were
Speaker 1: a star athlete for a very long time. So take
Speaker 1: us back to Charles Brockman the athlete before we gets
Speaker 1: to Charles Brockman the entertainer.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I started when I was seven, so I'm almost
Speaker 4: twenty seven now, so you know, to put that into perspective,
Speaker 4: I ran until I was about twenty two. I did
Speaker 4: a lot of other sports before track, but once I
Speaker 4: reached that, you know, I was like, this is what
Speaker 4: I'm great. At my very first year, I did long
Speaker 4: jump and I made it to State not knowing what
Speaker 4: I was doing. I literally was just running and jumping
Speaker 4: at seven. At seven, you may have just state the
Speaker 4: first year. Yes, my very first year doing track, I
Speaker 4: did long jump. You couldn't do hurdles until you were eleven,
Speaker 4: so I mean that's really why I didn't start into it.
Speaker 4: But long jump was the first thing I did the
Speaker 4: four hundred and two hundred, so I was like a
Speaker 4: sprinter and long jumper and I made it to State
Speaker 4: and then scratched all my jumps because I didn't know
Speaker 4: what I was doing. But it was still a great experience.
Speaker 4: It taught me so much of like sacrifice doing it from.
Speaker 2: Such a young age.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's translated such, you know, so much into my
Speaker 4: daily life now, Like I owe a lot of that
Speaker 4: to being an athlete.
Speaker 1: I was curious about that, like specific, because one would
Speaker 1: think athletics in content creation acting are very different worlds.
Speaker 1: You don't see that many successful athletes become actors and
Speaker 1: vice versa. You see, you know, singers can act, that's
Speaker 1: very common, but athletics in content creation is not as common.
Speaker 1: There are some people who do well in both, but
Speaker 1: you wouldn't the common mind wouldn't think the correlations. But
Speaker 1: what correlations do you think helped you from you know,
Speaker 1: a high level athlete to high level content creator.
Speaker 4: I would say just the focus and dedication. When I
Speaker 4: put my mind to something, I do it. You know,
Speaker 4: I tend to do it also because yes, track is
Speaker 4: an individual sport, but when you get to the higher level,
Speaker 4: you're competing for your team, like your school, and that's
Speaker 4: a pressure within itself. Just figuring out like how can
Speaker 4: I be my best and also contribute to this team
Speaker 4: and compartmentalize all the things that I need to get done,
Speaker 4: like the practicing, the rehab, all of the things that
Speaker 4: go into being an athlete. So I translated that into
Speaker 4: content creation, specifically early on when I was managing myself,
Speaker 4: when I was creating my own you know, skits and
Speaker 4: scripts and everything while still being in college. So I
Speaker 4: would practice and go to class and then come back.
Speaker 4: It would be maybe seven PM, but I would I
Speaker 4: would write, I would film, edit, post all in the
Speaker 4: same day. And I did that for a very long time.
Speaker 1: So wait a second, I thought you had there was
Speaker 1: no crossover. You were you were record holding ability track athlete,
Speaker 1: right and content creator? How long have you been making.
Speaker 2: Content since twenty fifteen?
Speaker 3: I will say in twenty eleven years so we were sixteen.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I was my first YouTube video. I was
Speaker 4: probably sixteen fifteen years old. And that was just like
Speaker 4: very fun up until around twenty twenty two. Like when
Speaker 4: we get into that, you know, it was just fun
Speaker 4: and I was, you know, once twenty twenty came, I actually,
Speaker 4: you know, they sent us home because of the pandemic.
Speaker 2: We can run, we couldn't go.
Speaker 4: To school or in person, so right, right, So it
Speaker 4: took a year away from our eligibility, but it was
Speaker 4: given back to us. So in that twenty twenty time frame,
Speaker 4: I got on TikTok and then that's really the type
Speaker 4: of content that you see now. Started in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: but in twenty fifteen, I started with music and other
Speaker 4: skits and things.
Speaker 3: How do you how do you decide?
Speaker 1: Because you're so talented at so many different disciplines, how
Speaker 1: do you decide what I'm gonna do? Or is it
Speaker 1: better for you because you're so good at so many
Speaker 1: different things to be able to say, oh, I'm finish
Speaker 1: sing for this, I'm going to write this short film.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna make a funny TikTok. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a parody. You know, Like, how do you even decide?
Speaker 1: Or is just like whatever you feel that day or
Speaker 1: that moment.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm still learning. I'm still figuring that out.
Speaker 4: I think the good thing about having the talents, like,
Speaker 4: you know, as long as you, I guess practice them,
Speaker 4: which is also another thing sports teaches you practice and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they never really go away. You still have them. So
Speaker 4: I stopped. I didn't make a music cover or a
Speaker 4: song or even wrote since about twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 4: within the past like five weeks, I've just now started
Speaker 4: to get back into sharing music and you know, writing
Speaker 4: more and you know, singing more. So you know, that
Speaker 4: was just off of me, like just trying to get
Speaker 4: back into why I fell in love with entertaining and
Speaker 4: you know, because I think it really started with the
Speaker 4: acting and singing, and I was like, I'm neglecting this
Speaker 4: whole aspect of my creativity. So yeah, it just really
Speaker 4: depends on what I'm achieving and what I feel like
Speaker 4: I haven't touched in a while. And if I'm doing
Speaker 4: everything at once, then it's like, Okay, what do I
Speaker 4: want to take to the next level?
Speaker 2: Bring everything else.
Speaker 1: Up to So you went to Mississippi State D one. Yes,
Speaker 1: scholarship athlete. Yes, I imagine, I didn't want to assume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that means you probably got offers from everyone. What made
Speaker 1: you decide on Mississippi State? Actually you didn't get offers.
Speaker 4: I didn't get offers from everyone as one might think.
Speaker 3: One might think, you know, I usually you get D one,
Speaker 3: you get multiple D one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I got the interest letters. They send the
Speaker 4: questionnaires to like every junior in high school that's running
Speaker 4: at a certain level.
Speaker 2: You know, you fill out a questionnaire.
Speaker 4: You say like what your event is, what your goals are,
Speaker 4: what you want your major to be, and then you
Speaker 4: send it back to the school.
Speaker 2: I would get them from all of the schools.
Speaker 4: So like when I made this graphic of like all
Speaker 4: the letters that I had received, even football players.
Speaker 2: Do that take a picture with all the letters.
Speaker 4: Those aren't offers, you know, maybe Capain well sometimes sometimes
Speaker 4: Little cat Boy.
Speaker 3: Offer you. They just said if you want to come.
Speaker 4: Maybe because you only take five I mean, let me
Speaker 4: speak for track, because I don't know everything for every sport.
Speaker 4: For track, you take five official visits, and those by
Speaker 4: then the only schools that really offer for me anything
Speaker 4: or like took the time. It's not like I had
Speaker 4: to like say, oh, I got to put these to
Speaker 4: the side because I gotta choose these five.
Speaker 2: It was literally five.
Speaker 4: It was Mississippi State, North Carolina, Texas A and m
Speaker 4: Alabama and Baylor kind of they wanted me there, but
Speaker 4: they didn't want to pay me my first year.
Speaker 3: There's a lot oh wow, but.
Speaker 4: Yes, Mississippi State ultimately was my choice because they had
Speaker 4: a strong hurdle crew and they had the closest to
Speaker 4: my major. I really wanted to go to Texas A
Speaker 4: and M, but I would have to do like agricultural journalism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: and I just was like I was fighting it.
Speaker 2: So that was a little bit of a hard decision.
Speaker 2: So I was there.
Speaker 4: I was at Mississippi State for two years and then
Speaker 4: went to the University of Texas u T.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Austin t ain't. Nobody told me nothing.
Speaker 2: Did the transfer really?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, it was interesting being the number one hurdler,
Speaker 4: like on paper, a combined hurdler, at least the one
Speaker 4: ten four hundred hurdles. Like I've won Junior Olympics in
Speaker 4: both every year. Maybe one year I got like second
Speaker 4: or third in one of them. But yeah, to not
Speaker 4: really feel like I was getting recruited by the huge
Speaker 4: schools like Oregon or even.
Speaker 2: UT at first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that just goes to show because at that time,
Speaker 4: you know, UT didn't have the coach that I transferred into,
Speaker 4: so maybe that one wasn't interested.
Speaker 2: But the one that I eventually met was.
Speaker 1: So you were junior, you were winning the Junior my
Speaker 1: my niece's nieces and nephews who run track.
Speaker 3: You know, Texas relays, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: We My wife was like, I said, a track runner.
Speaker 1: My family's a lot of tracks. I've been to a
Speaker 1: lot of track meets hate, the track meets love track.
Speaker 1: I don't like untimed sports. Yeah, now track is technically timed,
Speaker 1: but track meets I mean you you might as well
Speaker 1: just move in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you gotta run the mile coming up? Fun
Speaker 3: a cover for the thirty two and get the thirty
Speaker 3: two hundred on another trap.
Speaker 4: Imagine being seven and I wanted to go to a
Speaker 4: birthday party and it's seven am and you're there until
Speaker 4: seven pm.
Speaker 2: The thing I went through it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas heat in Texas? He so, is that where
Speaker 3: you were raised?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: See, Texas is between Texas, California and Florida usually got
Speaker 1: the best runners.
Speaker 3: You've just seen, is it gout? Gout? He's like a
Speaker 3: sixteen year old sprintcess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't I know him being a phenomenon.
Speaker 3: He's phenomenon. Yeah. So let's back up. Yes, you are.
Speaker 1: You are a Junior Olympics winning the Junior Olympics. You
Speaker 1: are a Mississippi state freshman record holder.
Speaker 3: You are on track to go pro as a track athlete, right, which.
Speaker 1: Means you know, diamond relays in Europe, sponsorships, Olympics, all
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. Your career is derailed by injury
Speaker 1: or you're he were hospitalized. Yeah, tell us what happened,
Speaker 1: Walk us through where you were in that time frame,
Speaker 1: because you have a clear vision of your your path
Speaker 1: and then that becomes very cloudy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting because I almost have to call
Speaker 4: it an injury because if I just say a mystery illness,
Speaker 4: like I still don't really know, No one really knows
Speaker 4: what happened. But basically that was a tough year anyway,
Speaker 4: because it was twenty twenty two. I didn't get COVID
Speaker 4: when it first the first big wave, but I got
Speaker 4: it in twenty twenty one and in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 4: and twenty twenty two was my last year, so getting
Speaker 4: that right when season was starting. My first race, I
Speaker 4: ran great the day before, and then when finals came,
Speaker 4: I was like super sick. Didn't really know what it was,
Speaker 4: you know, And that was like my first outdoor race,
Speaker 4: So then after that I was out. Then I had
Speaker 4: an ankle injury and it's just all it's just super
Speaker 4: physical things that like set me back. So I was
Speaker 4: really proud that I made it to the NAA. I
Speaker 4: mean not into blazps NCAA tracking peek and you know
Speaker 4: I made it. I was like, I finally, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm back at Nationals. I hadn't gotten to you know,
Speaker 4: running a while, and I made it. So it was
Speaker 4: really feeling good. And then the day before I felt
Speaker 4: kind of off traveling because we travel a few days before.
Speaker 4: But it was like I just had a headache, maybe
Speaker 4: if I felt like I might have a fever. But
Speaker 4: that day before, like I was just like doubled over
Speaker 4: in pain, Like it felt like I was getting stabbed
Speaker 4: in my stomach. Oh my god, everywhere just on fire,
Speaker 4: and it just would not go away, to the point
Speaker 4: where I was like I have to go to the
Speaker 4: hospital and I get there, they are doing all these tests.
Speaker 4: I'm in there all night, all day, and they still
Speaker 4: really can't tell me what it is. They're like, it's
Speaker 4: not you don't have COVID. It's nothing like that. It's
Speaker 4: not the flu. Maybe you have like crones or like
Speaker 4: something like that. Because it was it was that type
Speaker 4: of issue pretty ongoing after that. So the next day
Speaker 4: it was time to run and they gave me. I
Speaker 4: was on drugs, so I felt better, and you know,
Speaker 4: being a team player, I was like, I can do it.
Speaker 4: I can do it. I ran and I got last
Speaker 4: place out of everybody, like by a long shot.
Speaker 1: And I know that had to be an unusual feeling
Speaker 1: for you. Yes, were you feeling fast or were you
Speaker 1: running like.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is not I was feeling like practicing.
Speaker 4: I knew I was off, but more so like if
Speaker 4: you get top because this was also prelims, so all
Speaker 4: I had to get was like top eight, and then
Speaker 4: I would make it to the finals and I would.
Speaker 3: Score eight of your heat or eight overall.
Speaker 4: Okay, so maybe like out of twenty four, I had
Speaker 4: to get eight, I believe, or nine because that track
Speaker 4: had nine lanes, so as long as you made it
Speaker 4: to the finals, you would score. So that was my
Speaker 4: coach's biggest thing, like if you can run, I really
Speaker 4: would love for you to run so you can potentially
Speaker 4: make finals feeling even better and then score helping us win. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I was down for it. It's not like I
Speaker 4: felt super four, but I knew. When I got on
Speaker 4: that line, I was like, yeah, nope.
Speaker 2: So I started.
Speaker 4: I was doing my best, and then once I got
Speaker 4: off that second curve, I was standing in place and
Speaker 4: it was still going, and I just I haven't even
Speaker 4: watched that video again because I'm like, it might not
Speaker 4: even be as bad as I'm thinking. To lose by
Speaker 4: that much when I had such high hopes for sure,
Speaker 4: you know, it just it was insane. So I just
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I can't do anything. They wanted me
Speaker 4: on the relay, but after they saw me, they were like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn't help us at all further. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then my roommate got it whatever, well he got something, yeah,
Speaker 4: and so he thought whatever I was going through, I
Speaker 4: gave it to him whole time. It was just a
Speaker 4: very weird like year for nationals for the University of Texas.
Speaker 1: So when do you realize that that illness plus the
Speaker 1: ankle injury was gonna impact your trajectory because you know,
Speaker 1: like say you hurt your knee orp your ankle or
Speaker 1: showed it like you know, okay, for six weeks, I'll
Speaker 1: be back. Yeah, this is not career ending, right, Like
Speaker 1: when you realize hold on my my career might be
Speaker 1: impacted by this.
Speaker 3: How did that settle into you?
Speaker 4: The ankle injury was mostly settled by then. That was
Speaker 4: kind of the least of my worries because I was
Speaker 4: still running, you know, with that illness, because I was
Speaker 4: in and out of the doctor so much and them
Speaker 4: not really telling me.
Speaker 2: They just really did not know.
Speaker 4: They were like, the most thing we can relate it
Speaker 4: to is like altert of colitis or crones or something
Speaker 4: with your intestines. You know, how to do all the
Speaker 4: tests and all the labs and everything.
Speaker 2: It was like, I'm on hold. So it's like I'm
Speaker 2: not running.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I can run. And I think
Speaker 4: the first time I touched the track again after June
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty two was January or no, maybe December
Speaker 4: of that same year.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's a long time for you, for sure,
Speaker 4: running for my whole life, you know, and taking that
Speaker 4: much off. But also it was that blessing in disguise
Speaker 4: because I never had a summer off, you.
Speaker 3: Know, since you were seven. Yeah, I shock kids a
Speaker 3: summer sport.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And summer sport if them kids be hot, yeah,
Speaker 1: and blazing heat, you got to run at the time.
Speaker 3: I mean to top of.
Speaker 1: The day, right, swattering heat or swattering humidity. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: what you from seven to How old are you in
Speaker 1: this time? Early twenties, Yes, twenty two. I'm twenty two
Speaker 1: when I finished.
Speaker 3: So that's fifteen years of no summers off.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, no summers off whatsoever. I for sure like
Speaker 4: Junior Olympics would end around maybe this first week of
Speaker 4: August school would.
Speaker 2: Be starting, but I would still have that little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we had.
Speaker 4: Like a well, honestly, we really didn't do too much
Speaker 4: because all the traveling for TRACK was was the fun.
Speaker 4: Like we might extend the trip and stay a few days, right,
Speaker 4: you know, but it was never like We're going on
Speaker 4: a family vacation. So I remember that year after that,
Speaker 4: I took every vacation possible. We went to Mexico. That
Speaker 4: next month, I went to SA Fest in New Orleans.
Speaker 4: I went, we went somewhere. I went to Kansas for
Speaker 4: a family reunion that.
Speaker 3: You was just picking.
Speaker 4: I was just picking, you know, No, no, my mom's
Speaker 4: from there, but yeah, we I hadn't gotten to go
Speaker 4: to that reunion in a long time, so it was
Speaker 4: like we were just doing stuff.
Speaker 1: I want to take a quick break from the show
Speaker 1: to hear from our ad sponsors. Did you when you
Speaker 1: were growing up, were you like regretting this part like
Speaker 1: your you know, your school friends are just going to
Speaker 1: Disneyland or six Flags and you were training or racing
Speaker 1: or running. I mean, I imagine you enjoyed track, but like
Speaker 1: you missing out on stuff. Did you Did I ever
Speaker 1: feel like that or you like, nah, this is track,
Speaker 1: I like, you know, competing that type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: I was very locked in to where a lot of
Speaker 4: you just make friends with your teammates, so it's like
Speaker 4: I'm having a great time like practicing every I get
Speaker 4: to go to see them every day, like when we
Speaker 4: go to the track and practice. For the most part,
Speaker 4: it did get more on the lonely side, even in
Speaker 4: high school because I would be one of the few
Speaker 4: that made it all the way to like Junior Olympics.
Speaker 3: So by then's not with you now.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm now unattached. I'm running unattached. You know.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I would still re rep the team, but my
Speaker 4: dad started to coach me, and so it would just
Speaker 4: be the second the second.
Speaker 2: Junior at June yeah, okaydd a junior.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, I didn't really have too much
Speaker 4: fomo because I was having a great time and it's
Speaker 4: great to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was considered it was.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's always nerve wracking competing and doing something
Speaker 4: like that, the satisfaction of like, Okay, I did great
Speaker 4: this season. I can now eat a burger and a
Speaker 4: milkshit and.
Speaker 3: Think about your diet and all that stuff. Yeah. You
Speaker 3: I'm about to get a milkshake right after this, right now.
Speaker 3: Because I don't run fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if a dog chase me, dog wins, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to know.
Speaker 3: You know, track is a very.
Speaker 1: You're in control of everything, right, So when you lose
Speaker 1: a track, a race, basketball, I can blame the coach,
Speaker 1: I can blame the ref. I can blame my teammates
Speaker 1: in a race, you they ran faster. How did that
Speaker 1: part of I always admire track athletes, boxers, anybody who
Speaker 1: there's no one else to blame, so when you win,
Speaker 1: it is also you as well.
Speaker 3: How did that, if at all?
Speaker 1: How did that track approach translated like TikTok and Instagram,
Speaker 1: where you are at the mercy of the algorithm or
Speaker 1: the people. It's not fully I mean, it's in your
Speaker 1: control how much you output, but it's not really in
Speaker 1: your control how well a video does. Was that like
Speaker 1: a struggle to transition to.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was so when I first started like YouTube
Speaker 4: and everything. Back then, I was still in high school,
Speaker 4: Like I would go around and make all my friends
Speaker 4: like my videos, and you know that I was doing
Speaker 4: the marketing. You know, I was taking their phones and
Speaker 4: I was liking my video marketing.
Speaker 3: But I.
Speaker 4: So I was doing that, and that was just like,
Speaker 4: you know, and they knew that I was like the
Speaker 4: guy who would make videos and whatever. When it got
Speaker 4: to TikTok, I didn't understand it for a long time,
Speaker 4: so I would always delete it, download it, delete it
Speaker 4: several times until I was like, Okay, now I'm at home,
Speaker 4: like in the pandemic, as everyone is doing, for sure,
Speaker 4: let me get on it. So I hopefully it's like
Speaker 4: privated by now. But there would be several videos where
Speaker 4: I would just be crashing out, like why am I
Speaker 4: not getting views? What's going on? I'm posting these funny videos.
Speaker 4: They probably weren't even all that, you know, and I
Speaker 4: just was. I was very upset, and I'd be like,
Speaker 4: there these people are blowing up and doing half of
Speaker 4: what I'm.
Speaker 2: Doing, which is you know sometime.
Speaker 4: Friends only Yeah, before they even had that, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: feel like but yeah, it was very difficult to understand that. Oh,
Speaker 4: like I just got to keep trying and like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm starting something completely new into like actually really sitting
Speaker 4: and making a video every day or like doing it,
Speaker 4: you know, because I wanted to do well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 1: Was there a singular moment where you're like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not chasing track, no pun intended, I'm going down this
Speaker 1: path of influencer content creation. Was it a moment or
Speaker 1: was it like a transition? Like how did you come
Speaker 1: to the thing where I'm going to put quote unquote
Speaker 1: track energy into you know, content even though you've been
Speaker 1: doing content, but like more where you're leaving track behind.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, even you know, mentioning earlier, Like I didn't
Speaker 4: get back on the track until October of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: By then that's two years in to me, I already
Speaker 4: have I don't however, many millions of followers on tick
Speaker 4: talk because I grinded from twenty twenty to twenty twenty two,
Speaker 4: so when I'm not in college anymore, which also was
Speaker 4: a hurdle, no pun intended. Because NIOL rules, I couldn't
Speaker 4: even make my money while I was an athlete.
Speaker 3: Oh you were still part of it.
Speaker 4: My senior year I was able to do that, but
Speaker 4: by the I mean I was already a whole year
Speaker 4: and a half after Yeah, so yeah, but you know,
Speaker 4: I realized that, like, Okay, I'm not running, I'm able
Speaker 4: to My first time coming to LA was in August
Speaker 4: of that year. I went to a networking event. I
Speaker 4: met a lot of the friends that I still have now,
Speaker 4: and it's like I just was building my community. They
Speaker 4: were inviting me to other stuff. I was getting asked
Speaker 4: to host events from YouTube and go to VidCon and
Speaker 4: playlist these different type of conventions. So I'm outside, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm having a good time, and then I'm like, oh wait,
Speaker 4: maybe I should like try again track or something. And
Speaker 4: I would practice for a week and feel really good,
Speaker 4: and then I would be gone for two two weeks
Speaker 4: doing something else. And then I think around February of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, I was like, yeah, it's not sustainable
Speaker 4: to keep forcing it, you know. And I'm in a
Speaker 4: different space than all of these people, like I'm now
Speaker 4: training with friends, but also people that are really taking
Speaker 4: it seriously and like, of course the dream was still
Speaker 4: like Olympics, but I'm like, well that's twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: like that's another year and all this other stuff. And
Speaker 4: I knew that the way that we were all talking
Speaker 4: about different things, I was just on a different you know,
Speaker 4: I had things to do otherwise. So that was really
Speaker 4: the moment I would say that that following year when
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm making money. I'm flying myself out
Speaker 4: to these places to invest in my craft, making my
Speaker 4: short films. By then, so I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's time to hang it up a bit. And I
Speaker 4: didn't even work out in the gym until like a
Speaker 4: whole year later.
Speaker 1: What did that feel like? Because you, like, you know,
Speaker 1: athletes are most high level, are creatures of routine, right,
Speaker 1: creatures of habit. You don't even have to feel like
Speaker 1: working out to work out. What was it like when
Speaker 1: you're like, I ain't going to the gym and nobody
Speaker 1: can make me and I ain't got no meat coming
Speaker 1: up to the Olympics.
Speaker 3: It's over. I'm a senior. Now, did you.
Speaker 1: Feel like ice cream and cake and the type of
Speaker 1: thing then you eventually you have to be like I
Speaker 1: kind of got locked in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like it's weird because like, I never I've
Speaker 4: always been the same weight pretty much for like a
Speaker 4: long time. But I can tell when it's muscle or
Speaker 4: when it's fat.
Speaker 1: You know, it's great, that's cool. Yeah, it's fantastic. I
Speaker 1: imagine that'd be like really cool to just like, no
Speaker 1: matter what, you're.
Speaker 4: So hard to like just always be in shape.
Speaker 1: That was funny my whole my wife and both my
Speaker 1: kids same way. My son could eat this TV and
Speaker 1: he wouldn't gain up. I mean you wouldn't even see it.
Speaker 1: You would not see that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I just think about a bit cheeseburger. It's like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be here and here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed it a little bit.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't have My always defining factor
Speaker 4: was my abs because I had a six pack since
Speaker 4: I was like ten.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: So once I realized, Okay, now I'm like I'm outside
Speaker 4: and I'm going to these pool parties and I'm having fun,
Speaker 4: but now I don't look the same. But I realized that,
Speaker 4: I was like, I need to work out anyway. But
Speaker 4: I was so used to training my whole life. I
Speaker 4: just needed that whole break to Yeah. You know, I
Speaker 4: wasn't doing anything crazy or eating crazy, but I just
Speaker 4: needed a long rest.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I got back in that routine, and I
Speaker 4: had to teach myself really because I was so used
Speaker 4: to doing like Olympic style lifting or things that really
Speaker 4: were for track and field.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm working out now in just my small apartment gym.
Speaker 3: Just from like maintenance. Right, So I'm curious.
Speaker 1: You know, you have a massive amounts of followers on
Speaker 1: multiple platforms, and a lot of times there's some crossover,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times people just follow you on
Speaker 1: TikTok or they just follow you on Instagram. You know,
Speaker 1: I follow you on both, but I have my eye
Speaker 1: own talent. I'm curious, are there have there been negatives
Speaker 1: to being such a visible figure, like you know track athletes.
Speaker 1: It's just like from where you talked about how you
Speaker 1: were ranked, Like, I feel like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: admiration and your hate probably just comes from you know,
Speaker 1: your opponents and beat me and people can't beat you
Speaker 1: when when that when that gun go off, what you're
Speaker 1: finna do? We in the same lane, right, But when
Speaker 1: it's content creation, people still can't beat you, but they
Speaker 1: can they can try to tear you down.
Speaker 3: How did you deal with that?
Speaker 1: Where during a track meet they're just buying you because
Speaker 1: you're on the opposite team. During on TikTok and Instagram
Speaker 1: they could be boring you, you know, boing you for
Speaker 1: a myriad of reasons like that. Was that a hard
Speaker 1: thing to get used to or has it even happened?
Speaker 1: Maybe it hasn't happened to you.
Speaker 2: I'll say that.
Speaker 4: I haven't really gotten hate comments or things that have
Speaker 4: brought me down specifically pertaining to myself for anything. But
Speaker 4: you know, like with my content style of parody, I'll
Speaker 4: get like the the stands of the people that I
Speaker 4: like pick fun, you know, which it's all in good fun,
Speaker 4: but they'll like be like don't ever make fun of
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson, or like I'm the biggest Michael Jackson band.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like all in good fun. So I've
Speaker 4: gotten those type of things. But even answering your question
Speaker 4: of like being the public figure and like being seen
Speaker 4: in that way, it's it's interesting. I can't really wrap
Speaker 4: my head around when you see that number and like
Speaker 4: that's actual people who follow you, and then it gets
Speaker 4: to the point where it's like, okay, now when you're
Speaker 4: recognizing public or you know, when the interactions are nice
Speaker 4: or if they're kind of on the weird side.
Speaker 3: I just met somebody else Musty, yes, and I just.
Speaker 2: Do they walk out like there's no.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, y'all, that lemon juice ain't working. You
Speaker 1: ain't lemonade. You hit that, you can cancer, you get cancer? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: because we ain't gonna be at your fueler.
Speaker 3: He had cancer. Yeah, you was Musty. They gonna carry
Speaker 3: that forever clo Ca. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I've had my good fair share of those type
Speaker 4: of run ends of you know, when it just I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: I do have.
Speaker 2: To be careful of like where I go or what
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 4: Even just like you know, in public, you know, I
Speaker 4: don't want to the cameras rolling and now I'm on
Speaker 4: what would you do?
Speaker 2: And they watching me? You know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's very interesting. But I think by now
Speaker 4: it's well, it's only gonna get better.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, so you've went from social media to traditional media.
Speaker 1: What do you and that A lot of us desire that,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't happen for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: For a lot of reasons. What do you.
Speaker 1: Think was the difference for you? Like, what do you
Speaker 1: think was it grace of God? Was it something special
Speaker 1: you did? Like why do you think because Burbs is big?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my first role.
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 1: You just got abs and hair and followers at the bird?
Speaker 1: God just give him everything.
Speaker 2: That's just what it is. It's God, It's the God
Speaker 2: is me. I mean it's literally that.
Speaker 4: I think once and I'm a firm believer of like
Speaker 4: when you take a leap of faith, like it works out,
Speaker 4: you know. I you know, journal, I write things down,
Speaker 4: I speak things into exist and I pray, but when
Speaker 4: you actually do it. And I moved to La it's
Speaker 4: almost a year, Like in a few days it'll be
Speaker 4: one year. And I was like fighting going back and forth,
Speaker 4: like no, I could keep traveling from Texas. I was
Speaker 4: here every single month, sometimes really staying here for the
Speaker 4: whole entire month to where people thought I lived here.
Speaker 4: So I was spending so much money. But I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm going to make this decision. I'm going to move.
Speaker 4: I moved and maybe a week and a half later,
Speaker 4: I just got that audition. Wow, and I got the part.
Speaker 3: I moved here thirteen years ago. Well look thirteen years ago, man,
Speaker 3: here we are, this is our heart. No, but.
Speaker 1: Was okay, So I'm curious, like, would you say you
Speaker 1: had two dreams, like you had a track dream and
Speaker 1: a kind Do you think having like, you know, your
Speaker 1: faith and work in multiple disciplines made it easier for
Speaker 1: you to like transition It was one like a soft
Speaker 1: place to land, or you were.
Speaker 3: Just like I was just doing both because I enjoyed both.
Speaker 4: It was more so that I was doing both because
Speaker 4: I enjoyed both. And even with track, I think in
Speaker 4: a perfect world, in my mind at the time, I
Speaker 4: would still be running and like, still be good. You know,
Speaker 4: no one wants to compete and not be good, you know,
Speaker 4: So in that way, I would be like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: a pro athlete, I'm doing really well, so like I'm
Speaker 4: a public figure, I can transition into acting.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I think I was thinking of that way because that
Speaker 4: was the only thing that was showing me the results.
Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't for a long time getting anything
Speaker 4: from social media or even like recognition. Yeah, so with sports,
Speaker 4: you know, I was thinking, Okay, that's gonna be my
Speaker 4: big break. And then I'll transition and then of course
Speaker 4: that was flipped and turned upside down. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: think now, you know, it's I still am so forced
Speaker 4: in it to be able to work in the sports
Speaker 4: space as well, though, because like with content, like I
Speaker 4: was just at the Winter Olympics.
Speaker 2: Wow, making content, you know. I yes, I was in Malais.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well you did NBC bring you out at the Olympics.
Speaker 2: It was yeah, the IOLLC the Olympics.
Speaker 3: Directly from the Olympics. Yes, the Olympics in partnership with Meta. Wow.
Speaker 3: So you went from Junior Olympics to Olympics. Yeah, for
Speaker 3: totally different reasons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was even I did the Summer Olympics
Speaker 4: before then, oh wow, to Paris and got to do
Speaker 4: you know what. I always dreamed of getting there, and
Speaker 4: I guess I didn't know how, but like I made
Speaker 4: it there.
Speaker 1: Was it serendipitous to be at the Olympics for a
Speaker 1: totally different reason than your track ability.
Speaker 4: I'm now working, I'm interviewing my friends. I'm still only
Speaker 4: a few years removed from the sports, so everyone running
Speaker 4: I most likely know them, really, so I'm interviewing them.
Speaker 4: I'm you know, it's it's easier to talk to them.
Speaker 4: And that was the really that was, and my parents came,
Speaker 4: you know, so it's like we knew we would make
Speaker 4: it right you did.
Speaker 3: We did.
Speaker 1: The way you made it was different, but the fact
Speaker 1: that you made it is. And I ain't gonna hold
Speaker 1: you no disrespect to track athletes. This is probably the
Speaker 1: more lucrative way to go. Track athletes is not a
Speaker 1: lucrative thing directly from track. Absolutely, if you're the and
Speaker 1: gymnasts are the same, Like at that level, you almost
Speaker 1: have to be Usain Bolt, Simone Bios. You gotta be
Speaker 1: justin Gatlin. And it's really sponsorships Michael Johnson. It's like
Speaker 1: that level because it's not like a you know, especially
Speaker 1: in the US, like track athletes are way more famous
Speaker 1: in Europe than they are in the US, which a
Speaker 1: lot of them are.
Speaker 3: Like, man, why don't y'all come to our stuff? We'd
Speaker 3: be like what stuff?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's like people only pay attention for
Speaker 4: four years, you know. So yeah, but it was very
Speaker 4: like full circle. And I don't know how long I'll
Speaker 4: still be. I mean, I would love to always be
Speaker 4: a spectator, Like I don't know how how long I'll
Speaker 4: try to, you know, do the going in that route
Speaker 4: because I've gotten plenty of opportunity to do that, and
Speaker 4: you know, some newer faces are coming into the that
Speaker 4: type of world. But it's it was really cool to
Speaker 4: get that opportunity when I thought like I was just
Speaker 4: so done with track.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I ask a lot of my artists from this question,
Speaker 1: if everything goes well the way you wanted to and
Speaker 1: your dreams, what does the next five years look like?
Speaker 2: For sure? I want to win an Emmy.
Speaker 3: Oh you okay, let's let's set some goal. Let's set
Speaker 3: some goals.
Speaker 2: Baby, we've been manifesting that.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So just really getting it more into the traditional space
Speaker 4: while still being able to control and like contribute to
Speaker 4: the digital you know online, you know, because you're never
Speaker 4: gonna I would love to still create my own things too.
Speaker 4: But first I was in my first you know TV
Speaker 4: show obviously you know, next time, bigger part that would
Speaker 4: be great, And be in my first feature film leading roles,
Speaker 4: you know, just just acting more and getting to share
Speaker 4: stories and you know, even creating my own stories. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is just to continue breaking
Speaker 4: into the acting world and being seen more than just
Speaker 4: an influencer.
Speaker 3: Right, talker, do you consider that a negative?
Speaker 4: I influencer? Okay, you know, I think I refer to
Speaker 4: myself more. Well, now I say I'm an actor.
Speaker 3: Do you know exactly? Please? But you are an actor?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you booked the Bird, you can
Speaker 1: call yourself an actor and it's not no hyperboles.
Speaker 3: And you didn't get that role.
Speaker 1: Let the record reflect, they not hire you just because
Speaker 1: you have a lot of follow a lot of people
Speaker 1: audition with a lot of followers. You still got to
Speaker 1: be able to do the acting part right to get that,
Speaker 1: especially the show of that magnitude.
Speaker 4: Influencer though, like you know, because because it's just weird
Speaker 4: when if I if I don't really refer to myself,
Speaker 4: was that but if a friend like, oh he's an influencer,
Speaker 4: the person's like, well, what do you influence?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? And then I got to get
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 3: And you know what we mean? Yeah, come on, So.
Speaker 4: And then I don't like TikToker, you know, because it's
Speaker 4: like I do way more than that. And sometimes people
Speaker 4: say that and they're like they follow me on Instagram.
Speaker 4: It's like I think that's just what you say. If
Speaker 4: it's a short form content creator. Absolutely, he's a TikToker, so,
Speaker 4: you know, being I don't want to say respected, I
Speaker 4: mean yes, but just taking more seriously in that realm
Speaker 4: of entertainment.
Speaker 3: Hey guys, taking a quick commercial break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3: Was acting.
Speaker 1: When you were making those videos? Was it always a
Speaker 1: means to in to be like a traditional actor?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Really, yes, yeah, I mean I was making skits I
Speaker 4: was doing I was on vine you know that then, Yeah,
Speaker 4: doing just I mean you had six seconds to make
Speaker 4: something funny or make a skit or something. So it
Speaker 4: was always the end goal, even from being in theater
Speaker 4: in school. But I was really even with the stuff
Speaker 4: that I do now, a lot of it started because
Speaker 4: I was doing more so like Disney Channel nostalgic parodies,
Speaker 4: and I was really going in a way of like,
Speaker 4: this is what I watched growing up. I wanted to
Speaker 4: see myself in it or people that look like me
Speaker 4: if it wasn't, and this is my way of putting
Speaker 4: myself in it. Yeah, that's my way of like showing
Speaker 4: what it would be like to if I were in
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting I'm very similar to you, especially
Speaker 1: athletic part and Junior Olympics and all those type of things,
Speaker 1: being aware of what they are, not necessarily being invited
Speaker 1: to them. What I found so crazy is like I
Speaker 1: always wanted to work with like Will Smith Martin, and
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, the only way you could
Speaker 1: have done that is to be in a movie or
Speaker 1: TV show with them, right, But now, because of what
Speaker 1: we do, you can be hired to work with them
Speaker 1: to promote a thing and spend as much time with
Speaker 1: them as you would if you did work, except now
Speaker 1: it's the movie company hiring you. Like, is it ever
Speaker 1: surreal the things that you get to do because of
Speaker 1: what you've created? When you're like, I can't believe I'm
Speaker 1: in this moment because of how funny I am or
Speaker 1: how creative I am.
Speaker 4: I mean that I literally just did that with Scary Movie.
Speaker 4: I was on set for almost two months because the
Speaker 4: studio wanted me to come out and make content, and
Speaker 4: this was another you know, I think why I am
Speaker 4: the way I am or the things that I get.
Speaker 4: You know, they only had me there for four days.
Speaker 4: These super serious well they're super hilarious, but when they're
Speaker 4: locked in.
Speaker 2: They're serious.
Speaker 4: It's like Marlon WANs, Regina Hall on Affairs, all of them.
Speaker 4: They're locked in. They don't you know, even in those
Speaker 4: three or four days, that's still not enough time to
Speaker 4: really get to know them and say, hey, let's make
Speaker 4: this video real quick.
Speaker 3: Hey sure, they.
Speaker 4: Don't have the time. So when it was time for
Speaker 4: me to get on that return flight, I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm going to stay. I'll pay for my hotel, I'll
Speaker 4: do this. Really, I will stay because I got close
Speaker 4: in that very short amount of time with the actual
Speaker 4: people that were working on the movie, like the crew
Speaker 4: and people helping out production, and they really took me
Speaker 4: under their wing and I just stayed out there and
Speaker 4: then like as long as I stayed, then I was
Speaker 4: able to get the type of content that I needed
Speaker 4: and like that you'll see. But hanging out with those
Speaker 4: incredible cast members that I looked up to and still
Speaker 4: do with the franchise, that's my favorite franchise ever. You know,
Speaker 4: it was just super surreal and I it came at
Speaker 4: the perfect time.
Speaker 1: How do you you mentioned a couple of times how
Speaker 1: you invested in your career. How did you decide like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm making x amount of money, but I need to
Speaker 1: put this much back into my career, whether it's flying
Speaker 1: to LA, putting myself up, extending a scary movie trip
Speaker 1: like this, is this just like your gut?
Speaker 3: Like how do you decide?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of the times people don't do that
Speaker 1: or they don't see the value in doing that. I'm
Speaker 1: very much like that, Like this money ain't even real
Speaker 1: until I can invest in to do X, Y and z.
Speaker 1: How do you decide when it's time to do this
Speaker 1: and when it's time to be like, Okay, I'm buy
Speaker 1: these hearings.
Speaker 2: And we've shouted out my dad a few times. Let's
Speaker 2: shout out my mom.
Speaker 3: Let's shout out your mom.
Speaker 2: Shout out to my mom.
Speaker 4: Rock yes, because she's the one that taught me to
Speaker 4: like be frugal or like not need to spend my money. Really,
Speaker 4: So I was racking up my money from already in college,
Speaker 4: like having that scholarship, I wasn't really doing anything. We
Speaker 4: had a meal plan, you know, It's like I don't
Speaker 4: need to spend money on food all the time. So
Speaker 4: I was really saving my money since college. So then
Speaker 4: when I started making my YouTube checks or whatever, when
Speaker 4: I wasn't in college or doing anything to make money
Speaker 4: besides social media. That was just constantly getting saved. And
Speaker 4: then I would spend it if I need to go
Speaker 4: on a trip or something. But I've never been like
Speaker 4: the type to spend a lot of money if it
Speaker 4: wasn't for something that I knew that I needed. And
Speaker 4: my mom really, you know, she's I just remember growing up.
Speaker 4: You know, I'd be like, can we have spaghetti and
Speaker 4: like Texas toast, like you know, the garlic bread. She'd
Speaker 4: be like, here's some bread, just put some like garlic
Speaker 4: powder on it, the same.
Speaker 1: I know, you know this, it's just regular garlic is
Speaker 1: not their.
Speaker 4: Guard and you know it worked. I ate it, and
Speaker 4: you know eventually I would like even like tartar sauce.
Speaker 4: She's like, you can make tartar sauce.
Speaker 3: Get fresh deal.
Speaker 4: Yes, So those are silly examples, but like in general,
Speaker 4: that's just how I've always been. So when it comes
Speaker 4: time to do something like that, it's like I didn't.
Speaker 4: You know, I really only when I make purchases, it's
Speaker 4: it's for those big reasons, you know, still to.
Speaker 3: This day, for sure, Yeah, do you think you'll be
Speaker 3: like this forever?
Speaker 2: I sure hope.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, if you living in La coming.
Speaker 1: From Texas, you have to because them price is different
Speaker 1: gas today seven dollars. I walked here. I I really
Speaker 1: should have walked. Man, this is so great. Man, I
Speaker 1: followed you for a long time. But I there's no
Speaker 1: way to glean this information from from videos, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, it's so I feel like you're
Speaker 1: such a dynamic short form creator. But sometimes you, you
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Bino have mastered. You don't even have to
Speaker 1: talk in some videos. You just be like, yes, you
Speaker 1: master and that you know they say sixty seventy percent.
Speaker 1: I don't know the number. I'm just gonna throw a
Speaker 1: number out there. People don't watch videos would sound anyway.
Speaker 1: So you you really can, you know, deliver on that,
Speaker 1: And I think I honor your commitment to the craft
Speaker 1: and your execution. Like I think a lot of times
Speaker 1: people when they use influencer or TikToker derogatorily, they're really
Speaker 1: trying to downplay the work it takes. But people who
Speaker 1: are this successful at that much are experts at this craft,
Speaker 1: and it is a craft. Like I had to I'm
Speaker 1: really pretty good at the Internet. But TikTok. I felt
Speaker 1: like I was learning the internet all over. Everything I
Speaker 1: knew from YouTube vine, all those rules did not apply.
Speaker 1: TikTok was a huge, brand new way of creating content
Speaker 1: that you had to learn how to do that. I
Speaker 1: feel like I could follow people like you and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just copy him, which I did, and I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna apologize for it. I love it.
Speaker 1: I ain't still your video word for word. Them concepts
Speaker 1: are open to anyone exactly they are. But I think
Speaker 1: you know the same way Russell Crowe studies acting, you
Speaker 1: study how to be good at this. It's more than
Speaker 1: just being creative. You got to understand the mechanics of that.
Speaker 1: So I honor that. I think, is there anything you
Speaker 1: want to leave with people before we let you go
Speaker 1: where they can find you? What you're working on, how
Speaker 1: to get abs anything?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Two things.
Speaker 4: One, I'm very happy to be here. You know I
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