1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, Sack by Scot Taytot. Hello, everybody, welcome 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: into a special edition of Talking Cowboys. Not your normal 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: four group Talking Cowboys podcast. We've got some connections to 7 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: talk to and today we are pleased to welcome in 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: ESPN host of Golicking Wingo. You've seen him all over 9 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft NFL Live Sports Center in the past. 10 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Trey Wingo joins us here on Talking Cowboys and Trey, 11 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: first off, thanks for joining us, and I kind of 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: want to get into this quickly because you're a busy man. 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: But first off, I've heard a little bit of a 14 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: rumor that you grew up a Cowboys fan. Kind of 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: is that? Is this true? And kind of tell us 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: how that became to be after somebody who grew up 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: in Connecticut. Yeah, Well, long story short. My whole family 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: is originally from Texas. My mom's from Texarkana, my dad's 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: from San Antonio. I have relatives all over the Dallas 20 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Fort Worth area. Cousins and aunts and uncle's, you name it. 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: But we lived overseas for a while and we came 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: back to the States in the seventies and the first 23 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: football game I ever watched on television was a Cowboys 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: game on Monday Night football, and I liked the star 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: on the helmet and I I was a young kid, 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: and my parents were like, yeah, we're from Texas, like okay, 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: and that was a really good time to be a 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. So really that's how it got started. I mean, 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: it's all sort of happenstance, but yeah, I was very 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: fortunate through the nineties. I took my dad to all 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: three Super Bowls that the Cowboys won, and that was 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And so yeah, that that's how 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: that all got started. It was it was just sort 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: of a weird connection, but it's been a lot of 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: fun sense. So it was the uniform and then just 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: geographical happenstance that kind of turned into you being that 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan and kind of growing into that. But what 38 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: about your love for football, because it seems like you've 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: always kind of had your your your foot in the 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: door of pro professional football. Has it really kind of 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: been that way from the get go. Absolutely. When I 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: was a kid, I used to subscribe to this thing 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: called Dallas Cowboys Weekly, and it was like, you know, 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: like a thirty page in house magazine that the team 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: would put out. But I, because I lived in Connecticut, 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: I was getting a week late. So the game would 47 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: be played Sunday, and Monday or Tuesday it would arrive 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: in the mail from the previous games week and I would, 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, just pour over every page or that day. 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: I used to collect, you know, football cards. I used 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: to try and draw plays as ASA did, like Okay, 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: what if this would work? And how would that would work? 53 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: And it's like I've been a sports fan my entire life, 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: and I enjoyed playing sports. But there's no doubt that 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: football and specifically the NFL. And when I was a 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: really young kid to Dallas Colbert ball. It was always 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: my favorite sport, always my favorite team. And you know, 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: I just I loved everything about I still did this day, 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: love everything about it. I think it's the truest team 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: sport there is. You know, in any other sport, you 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: can have one or two guys. For example, let's say 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: in the NBA you have a couple of guys that 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: are a confessed of what they do, you're more than 64 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: likely he's gonna win. In soccer or hockey, you can 65 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: have a really good team, but if you have a 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: hot goalie, that changes everything. Baseball is really a one 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: on one confrontation between a pitcher and a batter, and 68 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: then everything else happens based on that. You don't have 69 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: eleven guys pulling on the same side of the ball 70 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: at the right time on the right play. You don't 71 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: have anything in football, and that's what I love about 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: it more than anything. And of course, being up in Connecticut, 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: you're still nearby the NFC East Country, you were near 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the Giants, you were near the Eagles, a little bit 75 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: up there in the northeast. But kind of explain what 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: it was like being a Cowboys fan in that region 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: of the country even as a youngster. Well, those teams sucked, 78 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: so it was awesome. H No, But you're right, it's weird, 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: like a lot of people like, why are you a 80 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys being in financy because I grew up in a 81 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: town called Greenwich, Connecticut, which is literally the first town 82 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: over the water from the university. It's like a bedroom 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: community for people that commute into New York City do 84 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: go to work. I mean there were many of us, 85 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: but the Giants were terrible, so it didn't matter. But yeah, 86 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: it was. It was weird, but I enjoyed it. I mean, look, 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. And you know back then, 88 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: you know you were born in what ninety six? Ye funk? 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: You know? We got we got two games on a 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, and I would just live for the updates 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: to see what would happen, you know, on the Cowboys. 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: And it was my favorite thing that they used to 93 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: do an old NFL film show called This Week in 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: the FFL that would airline on Friday night on local 95 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: stations about previous Sunday's games, and I would just I 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: would wait to see the highlights of you know, Billy Joe, Dupree, 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Tony dors Said, Roger Starbuck, all those guys and the 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: things that they were doing. It was just a lot 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: of fun. Duke Piercing, Golden Richards, Robert Newhouse, Bob not 100 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: Bob Lowly at that time, but you know, Randy White, 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: Harvey Martin, who Tall Joes, how I could do, Ralph Neely, 102 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: John Didzgrell, the entire offensive line from the Dallas Cowboys 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: in earlier in the nineteen seventies. It was great. It 104 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Cliff Harris, Charlie Waters. You 105 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: just loved being that antagonist even from an early age, 106 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: just because of the success that the Cowboys were having. Overall, 107 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: I love that. But you ultimately did end up coming 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: back to Texas. You graduated from Baylor in the middle 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: of the eighties. What brought you back to Baylor, by 110 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the way, just being a couple hours down the road 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. Well, you know, everybody in my family 112 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: went to Baylor, my mom, my dad, not I mean 113 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: not everybody, but like almost everybody. Sister and I went 114 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: down there, and you know I wanted to do I 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: wanted to go someplace different for college, just to get away. 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: And I applied to five school My first choice was 117 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: University of North Carolina. I did not get in, and 118 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: then I applied to Syracuse and University of Colorado and 119 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: University of Missouri, and eventually I just I decided to 120 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: out of those four, I wanted to go down and 121 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: go go go down to Baylor. I wanted to go 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: someplace warmer and have a good time and had a 123 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: blast and and be closer to some relatives in place 124 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: I needed to get away off campus. It was fun. 125 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I had a great time. To this day, I still 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: have a bunch of friends that I we w on 127 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: a golf trip every year that I want my buddies 128 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: in college and still get together once a year. We 129 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: had to cancel it this year for obvious reasons, but 130 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: we've been doing that for about ten or twelve years now, 131 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: so it was just it was a great experience. I 132 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: had a great time, and we went up to Dallas 133 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: all the time. We wore out I thirty five. Most 134 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: weekends we were either head north to Dallas or south 135 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: to Austin, and a few weekends we stayed in wake Tho. 136 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: We managed to find ourselves a good time, but we 137 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: went We went north ninety minutes in south ninety minutes 138 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: on I thirty five quite a bit. As somebody who 139 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: grew up in Waco, I can attest that I thirty 140 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: five has had the burning rubber back and forth for 141 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: youngsters throughout the course of history, I guess since Baylor's 142 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: been there. But you then got your first job back 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: in broadcasting up in the northeast. You went back up 144 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: to New York and you were there kind of bouncing 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: around a couple of different spots. But what was it 146 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: like going from Connecticut to Baylor and then going to 147 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: the big city of New York City and then kind 148 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: of being around that area since then. Well, you know, 149 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: my dad worked in the city for the community from 150 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Greenwich for thirty plus years, so there was a lot 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: of like teacher and service days when I was in 152 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: school where I take the train and going to my 153 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: going to work with my dad. He was He was 154 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: a reporter of Your Chief for Life magazine in the 155 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies, and then when Life Magazine folded, he 156 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: and two other guys created their magazine called People Man 157 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: ended up being the most successful magazine launch ever and 158 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: probably retired that title because nobody's launching a magazine. So 159 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: it was fun to go in and see him work 160 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: and do that kind of stuff, and it was a 161 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: lot of fun. So getting back into the city I 162 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed very much. I was a page at NBC at 163 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: thirty Rock and like literally, if you've ever seen the 164 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: TV show thirty Rock, you know the guy in the 165 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: blue blazer, that's who we were. We gave guided tours 166 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: of the Building or Saturday Night Live and a bunch 167 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: of other shows that was fun. Then I made a 168 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: demo tape and sent it up to a bunch of 169 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: stations and got a job in Bingham to New York 170 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: and there for two years. And I got a job 171 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: in Allentown, Pennsylvania, where I got to do my first 172 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: play by play as well as some local TV broadcasting 173 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: for Lead High University football basketball. And I was there 174 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: nine months and got a job in Saint Louis ruin 175 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: Saint Louis for six years, and then moved back here 176 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven. Would have been here ever since. Now. 177 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: You I believe you started your career with play by 178 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: play at least up on air and kind of getting 179 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: into that area, like you said, of Pennsylvania, and you 180 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: started doing some play by play, and then you kind 181 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: of peeked up into the ESPN realm of that what 182 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: kind of led to show hosting because since then it 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: seems like it's been less play by play more so 184 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: the show hosting side. So it was my first My 185 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: first few TV jobs were all were show hosting or poscaster. 186 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: I just got a chance to do some uh, some 187 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: play by play during that job at Allentown, but I've 188 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: done you know, here at ESPN. I've done play by 189 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: play for uh the Arena League for a while when 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: we had that, But mostly my job is studio hosting. 191 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: What do you like more? That's a great question. Um. 192 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: For the longest time I really even think about it, it 193 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, what can I do? What do 194 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: I really look? For fifteen years I hosted NFL Live, 195 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: and hosting the Draft has been just so great, so 196 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it, Like, uh, you know, I've been 197 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: very fortunate at ESPN. I covered UH the PGA Championship. 198 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: I've covered US Open and Golf and British Open and golf, 199 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: a US Open and tennis Wimbledon, been to the Olympics, 200 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: I was our correspondent for the two thousand two Winner 201 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Games and saw Lake City. It's been unbelievable, but by 202 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: far doing NFL I've and doing the Draft it's just 203 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: been great. It's just been so much fun. And the 204 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: Draft is the ultimate reality television show, right, you know, 205 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: you can't script for it. You have no idea what's 206 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: going to happen. And this year specifically it was nuts. 207 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: But you just have sort of ride or TuS you 208 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: bucked you off. I guess these a rodeo parlance, and 209 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: it was fun. I mean, it's just you never know 210 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, and that's the best part of 211 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: a plan. But as my friend Herm Edwards likes to say, 212 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: any planned to camp be change is a bad plan. 213 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: We've had to change plant a million different times during 214 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: the draft, so that's been fun. Now you mentioned the draft. 215 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned this year and all the challenges around COVID 216 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: nineteen and it being virtual. You were tabbed with the 217 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: task of being the sole host for ESPN and the 218 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: sole individual that had everything kind of ran through you. 219 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: What was that challenge like and what were some of 220 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: the toughest parts of that job. So I have to 221 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: say I do appreciate what people say that, but to 222 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: think that it was just me is just you know, 223 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: there are so many good people behind the scenes that 224 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: really had did the heavy lifting, especially this year. You know, 225 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: our overall producer Step Marking, our producers Ramadanski and Brian Ryder, 226 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: and all the tech people that put it together. Now, 227 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: it was different. It was different, Don't get me wrong. 228 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: It was weird and it was unusual. First of all, 229 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: normally we're on location with them. You know, we had 230 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: last year in Nashville, close to seven hundred and fifty 231 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: thousand people downtown Nashville for the three days of the draft. 232 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: It was nuts, unbelievable. We were expecting close to a 233 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: million people in Las Vegas this year and fifty three 234 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: days before the draft, we pulled the plug on that, 235 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: and somehow we were able to put together what was 236 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: an incredible virtual experience with so many people working together. 237 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: So like for me, the preparation of the draft didn't 238 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: change at all. Like it didn't. It didn't change one iota. 239 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: The only thing that changed for me was how we 240 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: were going to present the information that we had prepared for. 241 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: And the people behind the scenes did an amazing job. 242 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Like I was the only one in the studio. We 243 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: had Hurt Warner and Michael Irvin and Daniel Jeremiah from 244 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: the NFL network along with our people Lewis Ready, quotram 245 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: acardem mel Kaper Jr. And they were all remote So 246 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: I was in the studio and there were literally two 247 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: other people with me in the studio and they were 248 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: all set up remotely, and we had Commission. Goodell wired 249 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: in obviously and had I think two hundred potential draftees 250 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: or one hundred potential draftees wired up with remote units, 251 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: plus every general manager, every owner, and every coach. And 252 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: it went off without a hitch. And as we were 253 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: getting ready to do this, we had some glitches before 254 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: this began. The fact that we basically did that for 255 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: three days with really minimal interruption was unbeliefing believable, and 256 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: I was really proud of people that pulled that off 257 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: together and Dad it a lot easier. And I've said 258 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: it since we hosted our own virtual draft, everybody behind 259 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the scenes needs a substantial race throughout the course of 260 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: this COVID nineteen pandemic because it makes those on air 261 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: look a lot better than they actually are. Just be 262 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: based off of the fact that the technical side has 263 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: taken care of even more. But now you're going up 264 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. You have to stay neutral with your 265 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: national television audience. But do you keep an eye on 266 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: how the Cowboys did during the draft because there's a 267 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: lot of excitement around those picks. Yes, I mean they 268 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: kind of reverse engineered it on in my opinion, but 269 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: they got it. I mean like they weren't expecting the 270 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: CBO to be there, and if he was sixth on 271 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: their board, I think he was sixth on their pre 272 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: draft board. And you have him, what at seventeen, you 273 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: gotta take him. So you know, obviously a lot of 274 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: people thought that was a luxury item. But you now 275 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: have Michael Gallup, Mary Cooper and CD Lamb, which is 276 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: an unbelievable Creo wide receiver, and then to still have 277 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: Digs on the board when you go in the second 278 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: round get him was remarkable. Like in any scenario, would 279 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: you have said to a Cowboy team, they're gonna get 280 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Gigs and you're gonna get CD Lamb in the first 281 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: ture ends they'd be like, oh yeah, all right, so 282 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: they get those two. And quite frankly, I like a 283 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: lot of the other picks as well, especially the kid 284 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore out of Oklahoma. I thought that was a 285 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: steel where they got him. I thought the Cowboys sort 286 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: of out of luck in happenstance. And also when the 287 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: players were there to take the right players, I thought 288 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: they hadn't that really did. Now with that kind of 289 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: paired with some of the other offseason moves, that they've 290 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: made Dontari Poe, Gerald McCoy haha, Clinton Dicks On the 291 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: defensive side of the football, What are you kind of 292 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: thinking going into twenty twenty and how is their season 293 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: going to look assuming that it is a full season. Well, 294 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: we just did a list this week on Golik and 295 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: Wingo my top three ish teams that are super Bowl 296 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: or bust this year, and the Cowboys were number one 297 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: on my list. Because again, I want to be clear, 298 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: it's not they're the number one team that I think 299 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl. It's who are the teams 300 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: that are all in on. If we don't get to 301 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, it won't be a successful season because 302 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: I think they have everything that they need. Now. You 303 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: could question whether or not they're going to get something 304 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: out of Aldon Smith, who hasn't played since twenty twenty 305 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty sixteen, from the pass rush, Tim that's 306 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna make up for the loss of Robert Quinn and others. 307 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: But you know, they've sort of managed to make this work. Now, 308 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I would have signed a quarterback first before I signed 309 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: everybody else. Jerry, I'm just saying, I mean, I like 310 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. I like Yale Collins, I like all those players, 311 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: I like Zekiel Eliven. Normally you take care of the 312 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: durable quarterback first. Now they've got him, he's going to 313 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: be there this year. But the reason why this, I 314 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: think is so important is there's still a real divide 315 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: over years on what Dac and the Cowboys are willing 316 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: to agree to. They can't go into next year with 317 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: him on the franchise tack it over thirty seven million 318 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: dollars because at the best case scenario over the cap 319 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: is gonna stay flat going into twenty twenty one and 320 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: it might take a dick. You can't have a quarterback 321 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: taking a thirty seven one million dollars or in cap space, 322 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: especially if it's not going to go up into twenty 323 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: twenty one. It's a big year for them and they 324 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: need to make it work with all the pieces this year. 325 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons why I put them 326 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: as the top of the teams that are super Bowler bust. 327 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: And you talk about super Bowler bust, and I'll get 328 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: your prediction or maybe not prediction, but your favorite. We'll 329 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: say favorite coming up here in just a little bit. 330 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: But talking about Dak Prescott, and staying on the topic 331 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: of the what is the franchise quarterback right now? For 332 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys? You go and add Andy Dalton. You have 333 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of an insurance policy with him backing 334 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: up Dak Prescott. But what is your opinion of Prescott 335 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: himself as a player, not necessarily the contract negotiation. I 336 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: think he's the most underappreciated quarterback in the NFL because 337 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: the first of all, look, I'm not a huge quarterback 338 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: wins guy. I'm sure you've seen the teams win games 339 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks helping them win games, and yes, they have maybe 340 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: more of an influence, but at the end of the day, 341 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: if you don't have everything else you can have a 342 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: great quarterback doesn't matter. And we've certainly seen that throughout 343 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: the cases in the history. It's a little more skewed now, 344 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: but I'm not a huge quarterback wins guy. But he 345 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: is a winning, durable quarterback in the NFL, and durability 346 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: it may be the most important ability in the NFL. 347 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: He hasn't missed a game in four years because of injury. 348 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: He's a big, strong kid who came within one yard 349 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: of Hie Tony Romo's franchise Rector for most passing yards 350 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: in a single season. He has all the weapons at 351 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: his disposal. You have a running game that I think 352 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: is going to be fine, or offensive line isn't what 353 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: it was when it was a rook year in twenty sixteen, 354 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: but it's more than good enough. And you have a 355 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: defense that I think is going to be okay. I 356 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: don't understand the back, Kate, I don't understand me. Oh, 357 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: he's just an average. He's not like if you really 358 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: want to be honest about it and talk to people 359 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: who know what they're talking about in terms of people 360 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: who I mean, if you will put this way, if 361 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: you really want to find that out, let him be 362 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: a free agent. Watch what happened. Watch the twenty teams 363 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: that would run to sign Dak Prescott, because that's exactly 364 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: what would happen. So for all the people that consider 365 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: him an average to above out a quarterback, I suggest 366 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: you take up a hobby because football watching is not 367 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: your strength. Hey, I like it. You're antagonizing even now 368 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: talking about Dak Prescott and some of those that are 369 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: out there that I just don't get it. I just 370 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: don't get it. I mean, looks for example, I think 371 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is a great quarter front I really do. 372 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: He's not durable. That's a that's a thing. Now we 373 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: can talk about maybe he's a better you know, you 374 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: like some of the skill things he does better than Dak, 375 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: But when you put the the ability with durability, I mean, 376 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: one guy's there all the time, and that's kind of 377 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: a big deal, you know, especially in this day and 378 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: age whenever you have to have quarterbacks that have to 379 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: do so many different things with the weapons that are 380 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: around them. And now Dak Prescott has those weapons, he 381 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: has the three receivers we mentioned earlier. He's got Ezekiel Elliott, 382 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, Blake Jarr went on that offensive side. How 383 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: much pressure do all these weapons actually put on Kellen 384 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: Moore as the offensive coordinator to make sure that things 385 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: are taken care of or even Mike McCarthy an offensive guru, 386 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: taking care of the right way. Now, you know, Kellen 387 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: had a very interesting year as the first year offensive coordinator. 388 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: Came out of the gate strong obviously those first three wins. 389 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: But if you notice a pattern late in the season, 390 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you guys talked about this. Let's take 391 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: for example, a Thanksgiving Day game against the Bills. They 392 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: went right down the field on that first drive March 393 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: March March, Big doses Zeke Elliot in the running boom, 394 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: They score a touchdown, and then you look at Zeke 395 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Elliot's carries per the rest of that game as opposed 396 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: to the opening drive. Then there was a Thursday night 397 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: game against the Bears in Chicago, right down the field, boom, boom, boom, 398 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: great run past combination mix in there, they score a 399 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: touchdown and then what happened in the rest of that 400 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: game got away from the running game. Look, obviously, this 401 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: is a passing league. That's the way it's going. It's 402 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: way it's going to be. But for the Cowboys to 403 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: be successful, especially the way the team was built in 404 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: the position they paid first in Zeke Elliott, they're going 405 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: to have to feature that running game. I felt at 406 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: times last year, and Andy Reid has gone through in 407 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame career, you forget about the running game. 408 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: My god. Just go back a couple of years ago 409 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: and Alex Smith was still the quarterback and they had 410 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: a twenty one or eighteen point lead against the Titans 411 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: at home, and then Kareem Hunt got hurt. No qureem 412 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: hunting gator at Travis Kelsey got hurt, and they went 413 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: away from kareem hunt. When you have a weapon, use 414 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: it and mix it in. And I think that that 415 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: last year Kelln at times during stretches forgot about the 416 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: running game. And you know, you script those first plays 417 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: of every series, for every game, and then sometimes I 418 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: felt like they threw away the script for those are 419 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: minor things that can be tweaked on, because there's one 420 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: thing for you. There's two things, right, there's game preparation 421 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: and there's game manager. I've always said Mike Marx when 422 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: he was the offensive coordinator in that Coach of the 423 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Land for the best game errors I ever saw in 424 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. And then the game would start and he'd 425 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: go crazy. You know, he just would he would throw 426 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: away challenges and he would, you know, do things that 427 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: just didn't make any sense. You have to manage the game. 428 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: And you can go back to the Super Bowl. You know, 429 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's got a ten point lead in that fourth 430 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: quarter and then it's cut to a four point lead, 431 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: and then the first thing they do is they run 432 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: on first down and then they throw it on second 433 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: and third down. Now you could say George Kittle was 434 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: wide open and Chris Jones doesn't bat the ball down, 435 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: that's a first down. Yeah, But you know he was 436 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: there before with a lead twenty eighth to twelve and 437 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty one on third and one with eight 438 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: minutes to play. Even if you don't get the first down, 439 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: you probably run out enough clock where the Patriots can't 440 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: have to come back. Stick to what got you there, 441 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: And Kyle Shanahan made a living during the postseason out 442 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: of making sure Jimmy Garoppolo didn't throw the football if 443 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: you look at what they did during the playoffs. So 444 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: you have to stick with the things that matter. And 445 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: I felt like at times last year Kellen got away 446 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: from the balance that made the Cowboys very successful. Now, 447 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: the term putting the training wheels back on Kellen Moore's 448 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: bike has kind of been loosely used throughout the facility 449 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: since the hiring of Mike McCarthy. Do you think McCarthy 450 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: can bring an added element of maybe some maturity and 451 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: game management to Kellen Moore in his offense? He asked, Tom, 452 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, like I was mentioning the Mike Marts when 453 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: Dick Formal is the head coach of the Rams. Every 454 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: once in a while, like you know, he let Mike 455 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: call the game, but every once in a a while he 456 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: get on the headsets is like, give the ball to 457 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: twenty eight and I would be Marshall Fark because you 458 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: know Mike Marts, Gretti show on Term, you know Torry Holt, 459 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce, Oza, Keen. They had everything you could possibly want. 460 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: I also had the best player in football that was 461 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: not a quarterback in Marshall Fark, and Mike Marts forgot 462 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: and every once in a while Dick Formal get the ball. 463 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: And I think at some point this year might have 464 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: to have Mike McCarthy say to Kellen, we got a 465 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: good running back. Let's just make sure we because even 466 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, you have to make the other 467 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: defense defend the run because if they're not, if they're 468 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: just if you're not ever running and they're always just 469 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: going after the quarterback, you're making it easier for them. 470 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: So I get it. It's intricate, it's not as easy 471 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: as as I'm stating it, but at the end of 472 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: the day, you still have to make them think about 473 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: the run as well as the pass. Now, what is 474 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: your biggest concern going into twenty twenty Because you talk 475 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: about the concern of the game management side, but is 476 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: there anything on the defensive side or overall that you 477 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: really are worried about? For the Cowboys, you know, Byron 478 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Jones was a very good player. Now he wasn't the 479 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: player he was a couple of years ago for the 480 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, but he's still a very good player. I 481 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: think they have a lot of young secondary players. But 482 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: you know what makes a good secondary is a good 483 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: pass rush. And you know every secondary is a lot 484 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: better when that quarterbacks got to get rid of the 485 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: ball faster. So the biggest thing for me is can 486 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: they generate enough heat? I mean, Tank Lawrence had another 487 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: good season last year. Thinking about that pank because people 488 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: don't look at the sacks. He defends the run as well. 489 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: Like he's a really good all around defensive flair and 490 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: he's good at set in the edge. They're going to 491 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: have to find a way to bring a little pressure. 492 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: And you know, with a contract that they gave Alden Smith, 493 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: that wasn't just they here's a minimum and let's see 494 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: what happens. They gave him some money, which either means 495 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: a there was competition for Aldon Smith or they really 496 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: believe that he can contribute. That is something that is 497 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna need to see that, right. I mean, 498 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: he hadn't played in a long long time. No, when 499 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: he played, he was really good. That was a long 500 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: time ago. So if you're asked if you're expecting like 501 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: a massive amount of production from Alden Smith, that might 502 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a stretch. So we're gonna 503 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: need to find a way to get to get to 504 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback that I think that's the biggest thing from 505 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the defensive side that I'm going to 506 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: need to see. You're echoing what both Isaiah stand Back 507 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: and Rob Phillips have echoed on our show throughout the 508 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: course of the off season is let's not rely too 509 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: heavily on that right defensive in spot. Let's just stop 510 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: the run, help our linebackers out, us helping out the secondary. 511 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: Now i'd tease this a little bit earlier. Super Bowl 512 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: favorite who right now not a prediction, but who is 513 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: your favorite going into twenty twenty to win this year's 514 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Well, look, it hasn't happened since Super Bowls 515 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: thirty eight thirty nine, when the Patriots repeated, but try 516 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: and tell me how you're gonna stop Patrick Mahomes. He's 517 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: the best player in football. He's going to set the 518 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: market whenever he signs that contract. He's the ultimate weapon, 519 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean, his super The best way I can describe Patricks, 520 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: or as I refer to him Hall of Famer Patricks, 521 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: is that that Super Bowl was the worst game of 522 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: his career until he decided it wasn't going to be 523 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: the worst career, you know. I mean, just look at 524 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: their playoff run down twenty four to the Texas, no problem, 525 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: down ten twice in the AFC Championship game to the Titans, 526 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: not a thing, down ten points with seven plus minutes 527 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: to play to the forty ninety third and fifteen. The 528 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: audio clip of the year was Patrick Holmes on the 529 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: sidelines during that review of the drop by Tyree Hill, 530 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: looking Eric at the enemy, the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs, 531 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: and said, do we have time to run Wasp? Oh 532 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: my god, they run Wasp and he is so wide 533 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: open by the way that throw on I think you 534 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: dropped back eleven steps to get that ball to avoid 535 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: the rush that throw was the longest air yard throw 536 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: of the entire season for Patrick Malomes to Tyreek Hill, 537 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: and that changed the entire game. That dude, is incredible. 538 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: And it's not just the plays and the offense that 539 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: the Andy re runs. When the machine breaks down, Patrick 540 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: Mahomes can do things that no other quarterback can. Now 541 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: you add that team coming back almost intact both offensively 542 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: and defensively, and to get the perfect running back in 543 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: the first round of the draft, Clyde Edwards Hilaire and 544 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: the things he was able to do in college at LSU. 545 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like God came down and said, Andy, 546 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: take this get and so to me, the Chiefs are 547 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: by far the team that I think has the best 548 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: chance to win the Super Bowl. Now it's interesting on 549 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: the NFC side. Look, I think the Niners are a 550 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: very good team, but it took the last play of 551 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: the last game of the regular season for them to 552 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: get home field advantage. And the NFC West didn't get easier, 553 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: it got tougher. You could legitimately make a case for 554 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: all four teams in the NFC West making the playoffs. 555 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: Seattle is always going to be there. With Russell Wilson look, 556 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: I know people think the Rams are done because they 557 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: lost Todd Gurley in a bunch of other players, But 558 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: even with Todd Gurley being a non factor last year, 559 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: under the current playoff format we're going with this year, 560 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: they would have been the seventh seed and Kyler Murray 561 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: just got DeAndre Hopkins outside alongside Larry Fitzgerald. The NFC 562 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: West is going to be a tough out this year, 563 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be harder for them 564 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: to make it back based on the division, even though 565 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: they're a very good team than it is for anybody 566 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: to upset or up end the Chiefs as the AFC representative. Now, 567 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: final question before you before we letting you go. You 568 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: mentioned the new playoff format. That's just one of many 569 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: new changes coming to the NFL. And you've got the 570 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: longer season coming up in a couple of seasons, you've 571 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: got the new playoff format, the most notably this year, 572 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and having to deal with that pandemic. What 573 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: exactly do you feel like the protocols are going to 574 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: look like and what is this you're going to look like? 575 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: If you had to make an opinion today, when when 576 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert tests are positive for the first time, when 577 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: the first NBA, first professional player that's positive, and then 578 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: you know this teammate TESTI positive, and you about a 579 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: few more going through it. I think the way we 580 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: deal with it now is okay, like Malcolm Brodgit just 581 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: tested positive, but I'll be fine. I made symptomatic. I'll 582 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: be final to be joining our team. The question is 583 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: going to become not what people have positive test that's 584 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: going to count it. We're seeing that the universities and 585 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: all the baseball players. The question is going to become 586 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: a house serious does it affect those players that are 587 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: tested positive? And how can you contain the spread? Like 588 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: for baseball, for this restart, they basically have a thirty 589 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: a sixty man taxi squad we're talking about that they 590 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: can bring under the regular season. The NFL is gonna 591 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: have to adopt that model. I mean, you're gonna have 592 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: to wave whatever we think our normal roster exclusions or 593 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: limitation because as Herm Edwards, my good friend says, if 594 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: you're practicing social distancing, you are a terrible football player. 595 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: There's no way around that. So we can have all 596 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: these provisions about training camp and doing this and doing 597 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: that better. Today, one offensive line is gonna have to 598 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: run into another defensive line. All that's out the window. 599 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: So when there are tests that show up and test positive, 600 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: how can we effectively take those players out the test 601 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: positive until they're okay and bring in someone else to 602 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: build that position. Because the last thing we can have 603 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: is a team that suddenly has ten players out of 604 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: a forty six man roster that test positive. They're going 605 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: to have to find a way to keep the fluidity 606 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: of the roster going forward as long as they're playing football. 607 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest challenge because those tests are coming. 608 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: There's no way around there's no way around it. A 609 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: question then becomes us, how do we keep the roster 610 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: fluid so we don't have players or teams forfeiting games 611 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: because we can't field enough players, And hopefully we stay 612 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: safer than normal, but we also stay ready and willing 613 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: to be able to adapt. It's kind of like what 614 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: you were saying early on, you got to be able 615 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: to adapt in broadcasting with this COVID nineteen, it's it's 616 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: a whole big thing of being able to adjust. And 617 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: hopefully that's better said or easier said, than done. Moving forward, 618 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: But Trey one of the thank you again so much 619 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: for joining us here on Talking Cowboys. If you ever 620 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: make it back down or whenever you make it back 621 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: down here to the lone Star State, you got a 622 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: middle of the the lighting in a tour of the Star 623 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: on us. Have you ever been to the Star as 624 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan? I have not, you know if obvious 625 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: have been the new stadium a bunch, I have a 626 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: bunch of friends I've not. I have yet to see 627 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: the facilities. I will absolutely take you up on it 628 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: sounds good. We'll welcome you down here to Frisco. Of 629 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: course wheneverything everything blows over, But until then stay say 630 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: thank you again for joining us me I'll no problem 631 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: to take care. So for Trey Wingo, I'm Kyle Yeoman's 632 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening and watching here on Talking Cowboys. 633 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.