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Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you I'm definitely U c

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you kick like toward the end zone into

428
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: the net and um, and so I'm on the sideline.

429
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: I kind of like I thought I made eye contact

430
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: with him and and then uh and I probably was

431
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: there for a couple of minutes and then he backed

432
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: into me and like my and I didn't realize that

433
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: this happened on camera. Didn't realize that this got broadcast.

434
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: But my immediate thought was just like complete panic, because

435
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to you know, have to

436
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: be locked in you're you're not supposed to talk to

437
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: the kicker, right like you're supposed to just leave them

438
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: alone and let them get in his own and so

439
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: I felt so bad that and and and so you know,

440
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: I moved out of the way so he could back

441
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: up and get a practice kick. And as soon as

442
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: he had that practice kick, I just high tailed it

443
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: to the other end zone and um, and then he

444
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: comes out and he hits the kick, but he got

445
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: iced and he missed that first kick. I probably would

446
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: have thrown up on the turf, like I felt super

447
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: just embarrassed that that even happened. And by that time

448
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I probably had like twenty text messages from people who

449
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: who saw me on TV running into the kicker, and

450
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: it was just like, man, I felt like I was

451
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: gonna have an anxiety attack on the sideline. Then he

452
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: misses that second one, and I was just like, man,

453
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: it's probably best that I just make my way out

454
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: of the stadium. But it's not your unless you unless

455
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: when you bumped into him that like you had some

456
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: sort of energy transference, like some sort of some sort

457
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: of like voodoo bad juju that you like. I think

458
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: it was the fact that you wanted u c l

459
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: A to lose. It probably like transferred that energy to him.

460
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh man, it doesn't look it doesn't look good. So yeah,

461
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: that was one of the things that I thought about

462
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: last night on the drive back to uh back back

463
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: to Central Arizona from Tucson. Was I was like, well,

464
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: that's gonna be like, that's gonna be a dot that

465
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: gets connected. But also, I mean one conspiracy theory sort

466
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 1: of cancels the other conspiracy theory out, Like would I

467
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: want calil Tate too, um to lose like glory and

468
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: shine to his backup more than I would want U

469
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: c l A to get their second win of the season.

470
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: So you kind of have to pick your conspiracy theory

471
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: that you're gonna go with. I will tell you in

472
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: all actuality, like had calil Tate play then then this

473
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: would have been more of a thing. And so but yeah,

474
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: so Arizona getting the wind makes clil Tate look bad, right,

475
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: So um, either it's a lose lose for me either way,

476
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: but I'm I definitely like it real talk, and I

477
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: think it had you been in that situation and you

478
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: got bumped into uh and it was broadcast at the

479
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: same time, I think you would also felt like like

480
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: I I just yeah, and the text messages were just

481
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: And then somebody like someone down here who has like

482
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: a sports radio show, Um, his name is Kevin McCabe.

483
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: He tweeted that I helped Arizona win and I was like, oh, man, like,

484
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: there's literally no getting away. And then a TV station

485
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: anchor like picked it up and made a joke about it.

486
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: And at that point, I mean, I did I listen.

487
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: I did not sleep well last night. I got called

488
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: out by the pastor of my church for listening to

489
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: the sermon with my eyes closed. This morning, listening to

490
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: the sermon with my eyes closed. He text my wife.

491
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: He texts my wife that just said, like a wake RALPHO,

492
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: why does he have his phone? Insert Well, so he

493
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: wasn't the one preaching he was. It was like one

494
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: of the other It was one of the other pastors

495
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: that was up preaching and he I mean you you

496
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: played against him his recursion. He's a safety out at

497
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: uh Arizona State back in the day, and he texts

498
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: my wife, who usually does music on Sundays. It was

499
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: just like he tell Ralph to wake up, and I

500
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: was like, so, I thought that I couldn't feel any

501
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: lower after what happened last night. But like getting my

502
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: wife getting a text message during church from the pastor

503
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: of the church telling me that it's very obvious that

504
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the front row, like listening to a sermon

505
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 1: with my eyes closed. Oh god, it's just it's not

506
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: been a great like last twenty four hours. Um. But

507
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: if I have to spike the football on U c

508
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: l A still only having one win, I don't even

509
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: know if I don't even get to do that because

510
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: you bumped the kicker. I was wondering why you weren't

511
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: on the I told you so bandwagon so much because

512
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: you had a piece of information that I did not have. Wow, Wow, Wow, Wow,

513
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Ralph Jesus. But still U c l A is still

514
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: in position to win the Pack twelve South. It would

515
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: have just been a lot easier starting they still because

516
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean think about it, even when they were like

517
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: four and uh what or three in six last year,

518
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: they still had a chance to win to pack twelfth South.

519
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: Same thing this year. Except for they're gonna pull it off.

520
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Some concerning things about U c l A in this

521
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: game is their offensive line looked good about one out

522
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: of every four snaps. There were a lot of full starts.

523
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: They had one offensive line I think, just fall over

524
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: before a snap, just fell on his butt. It was

525
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: like it was like an Angels in the Outfield type deal,

526
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: like someone just came and pushed him over. And the

527
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: other thing I noticed is that they had a tendency

528
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: to also get bullied by some players, um who were

529
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: pretty young on the defensive line. For for University of Arizona,

530
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: they're a huge concern. But also it's weird that like

531
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: there are certain there are certain past formation sets where

532
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: they all sort of come together and communicate where they

533
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: look serviceable. But one on one, if you're spread out

534
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: and you've got any of those old linemen going one

535
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: on one against anybody who has ever seen a weight room,

536
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: it's a problem. And I almost tweeted that like this.

537
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: I I deleted this tweet before I hit sin because

538
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: I thought it would be insensitive, but I was so

539
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: ready to fire off from the press box in the

540
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: second quarter. This offensive line is going to get Dorrian

541
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson injured, and I just I hate because I

542
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: was like, man, that's going to feel like a jinx, Like,

543
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: well you you you you jinked them and you hit

544
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: the kicker in the same damn day. Can we can

545
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: we talk about Grant Cannell. Can we talk about the

546
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: fact that like he threw forty four, that he threw

547
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: twenty passes in the first half of this game, when

548
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: Khalil Tate averages twenty seven. Last night you saw the

549
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: wonder So last night it is very obvious that you

550
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: saw what this Arizona team wants to be. Um they are.

551
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm have never been more convinced that they are counting

552
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: down the days until Khalil Tate is no longer on

553
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: campus because they didn't ask to have him there. He

554
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: does not at all fit with anything that normal zone

555
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: he wants to do. And last night I had just

556
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: like crazy flashbacks to two thousand eleven when Noel Mazzoni

557
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator for Arizona State and he had

558
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: six ft eight brock Osweiler back there averaging forty passes

559
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: a game, and Grant Janelle, I mean, the most qualtates

560
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: ever thrown in a game is forty five. And the

561
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: only reason that Grant Janelle didn't eat that by fifteen

562
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: last night, he end up with forty four is because

563
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Arizona didn't even really have the ball in the second

564
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: half and so and then they scored on a one place,

565
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: seventy five yard touchdown, which obviously limits the amount of

566
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: pass attempts that you're gonna get. But that that offense

567
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: that you saw from Arizona last night, um, is what

568
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: they want to run. They didn't have J. J. Taylor,

569
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Gary Brightwell, who I thought was gonna get thirty carries

570
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: just because you know, to protect a young quarterback. He

571
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: had one carry in the first half and I think

572
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: he what he finished with seven total carries, And so

573
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, this is it. This is what they want

574
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: to do. The Arizona you saw last night is the

575
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: Arizona they want to be eventually, Okay, aken of that.

576
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: I had a conspiracy theory last last night, but I

577
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: couldn't remember, and I just remember and I just thought

578
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: about it right now. Khalil Tate is a true senior,

579
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: right he didn't reach you. So so last night when

580
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: I was watching the game, Khalil Tate was out with

581
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: a quote unquote lower leg injury, lower body injury. He

582
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: was bouncing around on the sideline like nothing was wrong

583
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: with him. That correct, And that got me to thinking.

584
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: I was like, hum, didn't we just see this last

585
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: week with Dearic King at Houston who decided to red

586
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: shirt and then transfer, And I'm thinking, hold up, Khalil

587
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Tate doesn't look hurt over there wasn't on the injury report.

588
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: Maybe Khalil. Maybe we have seen the last of Khalil

589
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: Tate at Arizona and we will see him pop up

590
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: some where next year. Yeah, I mean no, you're not.

591
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: And it's not it's not a conspiracy theory. It's justifiable paranoia.

592
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: It's as close as you can get to like PTSD right,

593
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: like we just saw. And this is one of the

594
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: reasons why I told you on our last podcast that

595
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't feel very good about what happened, because now

596
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: every time a quarterback sits out that I mean, honestly, George,

597
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: that was the first place that my mind went. And

598
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of people tweeted me like, do you think

599
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: he's gone like the Art King? And I was like,

600
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: at this point, there's precedent. Maybe and I mean the

601
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: podcast if you're if you're thinking, and you didn't when

602
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: you said that exact thing. Wow, And then when we

603
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: were watching the game, I was like, he don't look hurt.

604
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: He does not look hurt. No, he had he had

605
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: two weeks to get ready for this game. And so

606
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: here's the other thing, if you want to take Kevin

607
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Summon's word for it, Calt is not effective unless he

608
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: has all of his tools at his disposal. So what's

609
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: the point of even putting him out there if he's

610
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback that he was at University

611
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: of Houston last year where he had to throw the

612
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: ball fore he's got a fever in his foot, That's

613
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: that's what it is. He's not I don't know if

614
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: because anybody would a lower body injury and that's not

615
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: good enough to play. They are usually sitting down on

616
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: the sideline or they won't have them on the sideline

617
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: that way they can get healed up. Didn't it did

618
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: not look It looks super suspect. Super suspect. Yeah, And

619
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to be I don't want to be

620
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: a conspiracy curious And then I don't we would not

621
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: have even brought this up if it wasn't for Derrick King.

622
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: But there's this part of you, like in the back

623
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: of deep, deep recesses of your head, where someone like

624
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: Khalil Tate like looks at Derrick King and says, Lincoln

625
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Riley would want me more than he'd want him. Maybe

626
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: maybe I'll beat him to it, like and that why

627
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: I even have those This is why I didn't like

628
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: what Derrick King did. Because now I'm Alex Jones. Yeah,

629
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about what they put in the water to

630
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: make the freaking frogs day, Like, That's all I'm thinking about.

631
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, You're not crazy. You're not crazy,

632
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody who had those thoughts last

633
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: night is crazy. And that was before you watched him

634
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: having a good time on the sideline. Um okay, So

635
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: now with the Pack twelve, you have a couple of

636
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: teams ranked. You have a couple one lost teams. You

637
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: have Arizona, who is a one lost team, but they're

638
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: clearly a non factor in the national conversation in terms

639
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: of a national championship. You have Utah who is four

640
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: and one who kind of I guess is somewhere in there,

641
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: but the two teams that are and you have Arizona State,

642
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: who's four in one, but they're not in the national

643
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: conversation either because they're they're so young, they're officer line

644
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: if they even like it just doesn't seem possible that

645
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: they could would win the Pack twelve, and if they

646
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: did and gotten a playoff, it would be an epic disaster.

647
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: So it looks like the only two teams that have

648
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: a real shot are Washington at four and one and

649
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: Oregon at four four and one. So out of those

650
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: teams quote unquote mathematically according to ESPN, is FPI and

651
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: all of this stuff, that's the best chance to make

652
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: the national championship out of the Pack twelve, and it's

653
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: only at like thirty five. Well, the playoff is only

654
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: at like thirty five. Who do you think can make it?

655
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: Do you think either one of them can make it? Um?

656
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: I like Oregon more right now. Uh, they're just some

657
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: more I think, well rounded team. But I still feel

658
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: like Washington has a chance to go eleven and one,

659
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: and obviously that would mean a victory over Oregon. Um.

660
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean I hate to be I hate to be

661
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: wishy washy and not like go out and make any

662
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: predictions that I would then have to like sneak onto

663
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: the field and tie someone shoelaces together to make sure

664
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: that they come true. Um but I do. I do

665
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: like to and to my own detriment, I do like

666
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: to stick to my original prediction and go down with

667
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: the ship. So I mean I do. I did have

668
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: Washington coming out of the North. I had Oregon going

669
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: nine and three. This year, it's looking more and more

670
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: like there's no way that Oregon loses three games, Like

671
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: there's no way. And so I mean, they could be

672
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: easily be a two loss team if they don't meet Washington.

673
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: But they look very strong. And if the consistency is

674
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: there in the coaching ranks, and if their kids don't

675
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: turn to like fat soft whatever's like Mike Leach seems

676
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: to have a problem with his kids doing, then they

677
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: should be fine to only have to worry about Washington. Yeah,

678
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: and the team that they the other team that they

679
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: were going to have to worry about was was Cow.

680
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll get it to the games there

681
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: and start with the quarterbacks that are dropping like flies.

682
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: It seemed like Cal had a real shot. They were undefeated,

683
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: they were four and oh their defense was playing well.

684
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Chase garbers had come into his own even though you

685
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: still tried to call him a bum. And I think

686
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: that after the first half of the games. I think

687
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: after the first half of the cal Larri's Owner State

688
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: game that you had to admit, hold up, this dude

689
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: is going somewhere that Chase Garber's had officially the light

690
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: had come on for him. Okay, so Chase Garver's, let's

691
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: get this hellaway. Chase Garber's is not a bum. He's

692
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: not a bum. He's a great kid. I had a

693
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: chance to interview him. A bunch thought he was coming

694
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: to Arizona State would have loved to cover him as

695
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: an a s U quarterback. So he's not a bum,

696
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: I said he would probably regrets to the mean. Now, Okay,

697
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: So I have a six year old son. He usually

698
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: does pretty well in school, but every Friday he gets

699
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: in trouble, every single Friday, and it's just it's become

700
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: like the self fulfilling prophecy of like it's Friday, he's

701
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: gonna make someone mad, whether it's his like music teacher,

702
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: or in the library he's going to shout or something.

703
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: We always get a not home on Friday. A couple

704
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: of fridays ago, he went and had like a flawless day.

705
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: And like the an Optimists would look at that and

706
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: say like all right, like we're out of the woods.

707
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: But to me, I looked at it and said, like,

708
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: all right, what the odds are the next Friday is

709
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: still going to be pretty rough. Like That's the way

710
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: that I look at it is is like the pattern

711
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: will usually win out, and so coming into this Arizona

712
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: State game, I felt like that would be the case.

713
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Did he outplay my expectations early on in the game?

714
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: He absolutely outplayed my expectations early on in the game.

715
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: Did Cal do anything about that? No? I mean they

716
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: still to play in the second half, Ralph I and

717
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: and an Arizona State fans, your your cronies want an

718
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: apology for me and and for me to like for

719
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: me to uh me to apologize and and say that

720
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I was not wrong. I can't help

721
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback getting hurt. And and with Devin Monster, Devin

722
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: Monster is horrendous. He is horrendous. I mean everything that

723
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: everything that you think, everything that everybody thought, Chase Chase

724
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: Garber's was he is an All American and NFL first

725
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: round pick compared to Devin Monster if he went five

726
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: for fourteen. He threw a pick right before halftime on

727
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: a wide open touchdown. It was a wide open touchdown.

728
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: He under threw the ball so far that them that

729
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: Arizona State was able to intercept it. I give credit

730
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: to Arizona State for winning the game, for doing enough

731
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: to win it. But but here is what I do

732
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: want to apologize for Arizona State fans. I do want

733
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: to apologize for doubting Eno Benjamin for not putting him

734
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: in my top five pack twelve player is coming offensive

735
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: players coming into the season. I had him at six.

736
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: You can't tackle this dude in a well, you can't

737
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: tackle him in the phone booth because Arizona State doesn't

738
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: block for him. But he had twenty nine carries hundred yards,

739
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, and probably out of those twenty nine carries,

740
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: and this is a conservative estimate and probably right on target,

741
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: probably twenty one of those carries he was touched in

742
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: the backfield, touched by somebody from the opposing team in

743
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: the backfield, and he made people miss, got back to

744
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, just fought hard for your yards.

745
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: He looks. I don't know how great he's gonna be

746
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but what I do know is this,

747
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: the kid is electric. He makes people miss. He adds

748
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: value to Arizona State. And without him his particular skill set,

749
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: they don't beat Cow, they don't beat Michigan State, they

750
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: don't beat anybody. Because Jaden Daniels right now, fourteen attempts

751
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: twenty well attempts, fourteen completions, hundred and seventy four yards.

752
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: I mean Col's defense is strangling and their offensive live

753
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: was able to get some time some sometimes, and the

754
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Cow coaches were surely upset because they left way too

755
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: many people wide. Though, yeah, I mean, I do want

756
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: to swing back to your whole point of like that

757
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Chase Garbers didn't have a chance to play in the

758
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: second half. Maybe he comes out and does something we

759
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: don't know. You can't you definitely can't say that he

760
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: would have. And here's why. Do you know how many

761
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: points Cal has scored in the fourth quarter this year,

762
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: including the Arizona State game? How many do you know

763
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: when that one touchdown they scored came against you, see, David,

764
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: they had they they have not scored. They have not

765
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown in the fourth quarter since the opening

766
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: week against an FCS team, So it's not like and

767
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: and that includes last week when they really could have

768
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: used some breathing room against oldness. And so to say that,

769
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: you know, so, I will give you maybe they score

770
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: on that drive that he goes down. Maybe, but he

771
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: also got sacked on that drive. Like I'm not gonna

772
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: say he got himself so that, but he did get

773
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: so that wide open, that wide open touchdown, that that

774
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: garbage that monster threw a pick before halftime. Can you

775
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: admit that that would have either been a touchdown or

776
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: at least a field goal the tip but but most

777
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: likely a touchdown. It would have been better if he

778
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: was in the game, But he wasn't in the game

779
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: because he didn't judge the defender correctly and he ended

780
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: up with a shoulder dream because of it. So like

781
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: that's partially on him. There's a wide open space. Either

782
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: work harder to get to the sideline or get rid

783
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: of that ball if there's nothing down the field. He

784
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: had the ball for too long, right, he doesn't deserve

785
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: to be blamed for his own injury, But that's not

786
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: a good play. That's not a good You can't come

787
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: out and say, oh, good play by Chase Garbage to

788
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: get sacked on the Arizona State sideline. It wasn't. And

789
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: so I mean I feel like and and maybe you

790
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: know what, maybe Monster is everything that you said he is,

791
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: or maybe Arizona State's defense to this point is actually

792
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: good at what they do. They are the only team.

793
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Oh stop, dude, I cannot wait until they play a

794
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: good offense. I can't wait until they play a good offense.

795
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: They haven't played a good offense yet. Would you agree

796
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: with that? Colorado got him pretty good? But I will

797
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: say this, there there are two things in the country,

798
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: two teams in the country that have two top wins.

799
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: One of them is Auburn, one of them is Arizona State.

800
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: So at some point we're gonna have to come around

801
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: to the fact that like Arizona State is going to

802
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: be in games no matter what, and unless you have

803
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: the ability to close out or do something about it,

804
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a problem. And that's what happened at

805
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: at cow On on Friday. I don't know that they

806
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: would have all of the sudden scored more points than

807
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: they had in the second half in the first set,

808
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: if it was a repeat performance, they would end up

809
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: with fourteen points instead of seventeen. So I can't and

810
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: and and I'll tell you I am a little bit

811
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: as high as everybody knows. I've been at the Cow

812
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: defense and they still do an amazing job at by

813
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: that same token, because my mind, you they have only

814
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: allowed thirteen, nineteen, seventeen, twenty, and seventeen on the entire season,

815
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: and even within that though their defense has been sketchy

816
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: at times, like they've allowed a lot of big plays,

817
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: but they have an allowed out those plays to translate

818
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: into touchdowns or points at times. They and as you

819
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: did miss two field goals, it could have been worse,

820
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: as you missed two field goals in that game, correct,

821
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: And so so there was an opportunity for like there

822
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: was a few times Cal didn't getney pressure, their DB's

823
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: lost track of Arizona State guys Jayden Daniels is running

824
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: around and the takers in the secondary. They just did

825
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: not have a good enough game to be able to

826
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: fade their quarterback being hurt, like they needed to add

827
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: more and Cal was not able to run the ball

828
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: as effectively as they needed to because you have Christopher

829
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: and you had Dancy Dancing made a couple of nice plays,

830
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, like they weren't

831
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: as effective running the ball as they needed to be.

832
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: If if if Garbage is out for an extended period

833
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: of time, and the fact that we haven't heard anything

834
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: about it is kind of concerning. Um, if he's out

835
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: for an extent a period of time, do you open

836
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: this competition up and say, like, hey, Spencer Brass, I

837
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: know you're as skinny as Jaden Daniels, but like, let's

838
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: challenge there's nothing else that you you have to This

839
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: kid is not good. He wasn't good at U c

840
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: l A. He wasn't He's not good at COW. I mean,

841
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: this was a really really poor performance by by him.

842
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: There's no no other way to say it. And here's

843
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: the truth. Here's the Here is the everybody knows how

844
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: much I like CAW. They're coaching staff and all that

845
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: they are shorthanded in terms of depth and talent. They

846
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: just coach up a bunch of two and three star

847
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: guys until they can continue to recruit. They had a

848
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: better recruiting class this year. They'll continue to get better

849
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: recruiting classes. But here is the nothing both of it.

850
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: Cal came in to this game four and oh they're

851
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: now four and one, and Chase Garber's it clearly looks

852
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: like he probably has a collar bone or a significant

853
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: shoulder injury too. I think it's throwing shoulder, right yeah,

854
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: I mean even at the probably the least bad thing

855
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: that can happen to your throwing shoulders an a c joint.

856
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: And that's four weeks. The reality is Cal making a

857
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: bowl game doesn't look real right now. I mean, they

858
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: may get a win, Doxie. They'll probably get a win

859
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: against Oregon State because Oregon State couldn't even beat a

860
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: toothless uh Stanford so so so, and Cal was getting

861
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: ready to have game day that it was gonna be

862
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Cow versus Oregon. Game Day was gonna go to that game.

863
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: But then Garbers gets gets hurt and they lose. They

864
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: will probably beat Oregon State. They're not winning at Utah

865
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: with Monster at quarterback, not with not beating Washington State

866
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: because they won't be able to score enough points. Uh there.

867
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: The only way they'll be able to beat USC is

868
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: if well, because USC already can't run the foot football.

869
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: Cow's defense is good, they'll be able to be good

870
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: in the secondary and might get a pick six. Though

871
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: they might be able to beat USC they'll probably lose

872
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: the Stanford. Well, actually, Stanford's offense is bad too, so

873
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: that that'll be a toss up. They're gonna be fighting

874
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: to be in a bowl game right now. They were

875
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: going that they were a nine or possible tin win team,

876
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: and now they're staring at maybe missing at five and seven. Man,

877
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: what happened to the Devon monster from the Cactus Bowl?

878
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: Like that was a guy that looked like he could

879
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: play football? It was it was it just that Kansas

880
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: State didn't was preparing for Rosen and they got a

881
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: little bit of a surprise or what because this is

882
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he he looks like he can't play the

883
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: position now oh yeah, yeah. Part I think part of

884
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: it is confidence, but another part of it is just

885
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: that he just looks overwhelmed. He doesn't Yeah, he just

886
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: looks way overwhelmed by the situation. Um the next game up,

887
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: which was another good game that I lost as well.

888
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: Then not all of these losses were my fault. I

889
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: can say that they weren't my fault. I I picked

890
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: the teams that were supposed to win, and then it

891
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: just did not go that way for the circumstances beyond

892
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: my control. But the game that I did get right

893
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: USC Washington USC Washington fort team. This was the number

894
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: seventeen team versus the number twenty one team. And truthfully, USC,

895
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: they they had Funga their number one uh d b

896
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: out he's there leading tackler on the team. They were

897
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: missing uh Elijah Griffith, who's their best corner. They were missing,

898
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, they were the walking wounded. There down

899
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. They were down to Matt Fink, and he

900
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: did not play very well at all a t D

901
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: three picks and two of the picks were just atrocious.

902
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: And this is actually USC was actually able to run

903
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: the ball a little better than I thought they were.

904
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: They ran for two or twelve yards six point four

905
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: yards to carry, which is their best of the season really,

906
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: and I like, Washington just easily controlled this this game,

907
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 1: and they looked like the better team from start to finish. Yeah,

908
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: it's a pretty bizarre thing when you can go into

909
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: uh Seattle, put two d brushing yards on the board

910
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: and come out having been completely dominated. UM the big

911
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: run by Ahmed was a back breaker. I mean, they

912
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: weren't gonna once it became a two score lead. It

913
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: was like, this team, like the way that Washington the

914
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: you and I said, the way that Washington was going

915
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: to defend USC going into this game wasn't going to

916
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: be conducive to trying to go over the top the

917
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: way that that worked last week. So um, I mean

918
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: this this went exactly the way we thought it would, right. Uh,

919
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: There's there was nothing about this game that felt like

920
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: a surprise to me. Matt Fink throwing three interceptions. That's

921
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: the second time this year that the USC quarterback has

922
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: thrown three interceptions, And now we're in this really weird

923
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: place of like, what's the best thing for USC to

924
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: do at quarterback? They both have a win that people

925
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily expect. Um, they both have followed that up

926
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: with a three interception game. Assuming that Keaton Slovis is healthy,

927
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: what's the decision? Because I don't know what would you do?

928
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? This is an easy decision

929
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: for me. I'm going with Slovis because sloves he won

930
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: the one game and then he comes back and and

931
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: goes to b y U and loses the game. And

932
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: I blame that a lot on the coaches. I think

933
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: that they wanted to protect him too much. They didn't

934
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: let him push the ball down down feel but Fink

935
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: Fink is relying on these receivers too much. He just

936
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: is throwing the ball up, just throwing it up, just

937
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: just because because we can we add the Pack twelve

938
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: Apostles podcast. Can we send a collective middle finger up

939
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: to b y U h for what happened? Then to Toledo,

940
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I mean, like, what are you doing? Like

941
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: you are a saboteur. It is almost like every single

942
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: so the Pack twelve was finally getting respect. Five teams ranked,

943
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: six teams ranked. You know, people saying the the a

944
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: C realized, the a C C is week, the bottom

945
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: of the SEC is week, the the Big ten is questionable.

946
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: The Big twelve has two teams like people were recognized

947
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: in the Pack twelve. And then cal is undefeated quarterback

948
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: gets gets hurt. B y U b y U loses

949
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: to Toledo. I mean, it was just a catastrophe for

950
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve this weekend. Man Toledo better went out

951
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: and they could, but I swear on my life, they

952
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: better went out because that looks awful right now? Oh yeah,

953
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: what did you think about Jacob Eastan though against USC

954
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: and USC secondary was depleted like and he went sixteen

955
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: for twenty six d and eighty yards. This is his

956
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: second terrible game this year. He had a terrible game

957
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: against Cal and then he had another terrible game against USC.

958
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this with like, told you so, Ralph

959
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: told do so, Like kids we got were you were

960
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: going to keep going back and forth on this. Inconsistency

961
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: is an issue right now? Would you so you're you're

962
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: you're standing up on the hill that this is a

963
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: terrible game for him? Yes, I mean this is he.

964
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: This is Jaden Daniel stat line, that's what this is

965
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: did enough to get to win different and through for

966
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: like less than two d yards, did not turn the

967
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: ball over. The difference is Jane Daniels is a true

968
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: freshman who has no offensive line and and he and

969
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: they weren't able to run the ball a lot of times.

970
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Jane Daviels is just getting by. If Jane Daniels were

971
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: a sophomore or junior having already started multiple seasons, and

972
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: this is what he was putting out what would you

973
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: be saying about it? Um, I am concerned that he

974
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: does not seem to be the one that can dictate

975
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: his will because my what he is doing does not

976
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: match up with what I painted him to be. It's

977
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: making me look ridiculous. So I would prefer the East

978
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: step it up at this point in time. Um, I

979
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: do want to point out Washington for South Salvan. I'm

980
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: mad they're running back seventeen carres hundred fifty three yards

981
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: in a touchdown eighty nine yards long, I said at

982
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: some point in time, because the kid is fast. He's

983
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: fast fast when that he was going to break loose,

984
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: have a big game, have a big long run, because

985
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: this kid is always one tackle away from breaking, breaking loose,

986
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: going to the house. Yeah, he's he's fun. I mean

987
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: he I again, he's not. He's not a star. But

988
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're gonna leave a running lane

989
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: open for him, it's over. And you need that. You

990
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: need that if you're Washington right now, you you need

991
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: the home run threat out of the backfield to be

992
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 1: considered a complete team, because Oregon has that, so um,

993
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe not in the sense of a

994
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: traditional running back at Oregon. But like you can get

995
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: somebody on a bubble at Oregon and they could, and

996
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: then they could take an eighty yards um Washington, I

997
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: don't feel like has that outside of what he was

998
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: able to display. It's encouraging that they beat the snot

999
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: out of b y U without him, But I mean

1000
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: the fact that he was back and ready to go

1001
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: against USC is very encouraging. Yeah, I totally agree with that.

1002
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: But and but to answer your question, who USC should

1003
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: go with, I'm on with Slovis because Fink has back

1004
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: to back games where he was just kind of chunking

1005
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: the ball up. I mean he chunked the ball up

1006
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: against Utah too. It was it wasn't a you you

1007
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: know how some sometimes you watch quarterbacks and you're like, wow,

1008
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: that dude passed the ball really well. He was hitting.

1009
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: He was hitting you know, small windows, making throws that

1010
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: are difficult to make. And sometimes you see a quarterback

1011
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: they are under throwing balls and the receivers are actually

1012
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: doing all the work. That's what I thought there. Man,

1013
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: they might have to paper rock scissors and whoever loses

1014
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: as the starter because Notre Dame sacked Bryce Perkins like

1015
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: nine times last week. Notre Dame's defensive line is is

1016
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: psychotically good this year. So I mean it might be

1017
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: like a loser starts type deal. Flip a coin because

1018
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm I do think that they have a

1019
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: chance against Notre Dame. Um, especially if they're going to

1020
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: actually have the ability to run the ball. But my god,

1021
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: did they get after Bryce like that? That was that

1022
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: was eye opening to me. And and that's going to

1023
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: be in Southman. Um. Whoever starts that game needs to

1024
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: be whole, So it might end up having to be Matt.

1025
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: Think if if there's any doubt at all that Keaton

1026
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: Slovis's wits are about him, you know, yeah, yeah, if

1027
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: his melan is still mushy, don't put him out there.

1028
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: Um oh my lord, a game that I lost to.

1029
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: I felt so bad about this because I went out

1030
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: on a limb and I actually kind of contradicted my myself.

1031
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: So this is what I get on the podcast, I

1032
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: picked Oregon State to beat Stanford. Stanford ended up winning

1033
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: thirty one. But a couple of days later on well

1034
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: actually on Friday, I was doing the Petros and Money

1035
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: Show on five seventy a m here and that same day,

1036
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: we find out that Devin Williams, who was a former

1037
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: five star recruit, was leaving USC and transferring to Oregon State.

1038
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: Actually we found it on Thursday that he was supposed

1039
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: to be transferred to Oregon State. They put him on

1040
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: the roster, all of this stuff, and then Friday we

1041
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: find out from his Twitter account that he's enrolling in Oregon,

1042
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: which is where he should have been from the beginning.

1043
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: But he decided to go to USC. Wanted to be

1044
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: closer to home. He had some family stuff going on,

1045
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: and but he knew he should have been with the

1046
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: Ducks to begin with. And I thought, and and I

1047
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: believe he walked on in Oregon because they didn't have

1048
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: a scholarship available and then they'll have a scholarship available

1049
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: for him in the fall, like that's how And and

1050
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 1: I tweeted out, I said, it's not even the weekend yet,

1051
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: an Oregon State has already taken ails. And so that's

1052
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: what I get. I picked the Oregon State to win,

1053
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: and then I contradicted myself because because the tweet was

1054
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: freaking funny, and then I lost, and then I lost

1055
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: to to Stanford, a toothless Stanford, And this was bad. Man,

1056
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 1: this was bad. I thought this was a slam dunk. Yeah,

1057
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: I I was holding my breath there for a minute.

1058
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean, this Oregon State offense when it turns it

1059
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: on is is special. I mean, and that fourth quarter,

1060
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really know what was going

1061
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: on for Stanford there, Like, I don't know where it

1062
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: sort of slipped away from them, because Stanford is not

1063
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: really team that plays to protect a lead anyway. They're

1064
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: pretty good at choking people out right, Like, uh, I

1065
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: don't know how this happened, but Oregon State went off

1066
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: in that fourth quarter to the point where the fact

1067
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: that Stanford even had anything left to go on a

1068
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: game winning drive was wild to me. And I do

1069
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to rivals number one

1070
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: overall quarterback in the country, uh, Davis Mills, who finally

1071
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: got a chance to show his stuff um over the

1072
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: course of a full game that they actually put something

1073
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: together in one. I don't think we're in any position

1074
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: where there's any type of quarterback controversy at all, but

1075
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: it's nice for Stanford to know that if they have

1076
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: to go that route, that they can actually, you know,

1077
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: move the ball a little bit with with him under center. UM.

1078
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: I had said that this is the game where where

1079
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: Cameron Scarlett was finally gonna you know, it was gonna

1080
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: be a get healthy game for him. It did not

1081
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: go that way. He didn't He did not have a

1082
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: very good game at all. Twenty four carries for ninety

1083
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: two yards. Um. But they did enough. Um. This Oregon

1084
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: State team just can't stop anyone. And they can't stop

1085
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: anyone when it matters. Uh, take away that great offensive

1086
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: performance in the fourth quarter. Um, you know. And and

1087
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: it was mostly in our Tavis Pierce game. Jamar Jefferson

1088
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: only had four carriers. I don't know if he got

1089
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: hurt or what was going on with him. Um, But

1090
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: our Tavis Pierce is also a very very good running

1091
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: back and he had a really really good fourth quarter.

1092
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, dude. And and it actually, yeah, it was

1093
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: not a good situation for Oregon State because this game

1094
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: was tied up for them like this, This this game was,

1095
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: this game was everything. It was sitting right on like that.

1096
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: They had the game at their fingertips. Stanford was was down,

1097
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: they weren't having a they're not having a good good season.

1098
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, dud. This was so bad. This was so

1099
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: so bad, man, I I just knew that this was

1100
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a win. Can we talk about Oregon States

1101
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: leading receiver Champ Flemings again? Man? Okay, so so I

1102
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: look so yeah, he caught five five reception sixty four yards.

1103
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgen Hodgens though he did have ten for one

1104
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: sixty two and he was part of on on Unafraid Show,

1105
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: we did the the pack twelve offensive players, like the

1106
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: players that could win Offensive Player of the Year right

1107
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: at at so far at that point, the top five candidates,

1108
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: and he was on that list. He's on that list

1109
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: because he is having a special special season. And along

1110
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: with him, obviously you got justin Justin Herbert, And this

1111
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: was put out before this Saturday. You had Anthony Gordon

1112
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: on there, but I think he's gonna be out of

1113
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: the question because Washington State's kind of falling apart. Um.

1114
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: You had Stack Winston from Washington State, Jacob Easton at

1115
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: Washington who fell apart this weekend too, and Isaiah Hodgens.

1116
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: So after this weekend, the only two people left standing

1117
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: to me are Herbert who didn't play, and Hodges from

1118
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: Oregon State. Because who else are you going to choose

1119
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: to be Offensive Player of the Year right now, and

1120
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: I think that he has a pretty good chance. Hodgens

1121
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: has a pretty good chance to put together an absolutely

1122
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: ridiculous season numbers wise, because I mean, they're gonna be

1123
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: down a while so um, but you also might be

1124
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: if if Jefferson or Pierce keep going on, you know,

1125
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: off every single game, you might bleed some bleed some

1126
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: attention away. But He's it's weird. It's weird because Oregon

1127
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: State has genuine stars on their team, but the rest

1128
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: of the glue that's holding it together is Elmer's glue

1129
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: and not super glue. Um. You know, hamil are richd

1130
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: five sacks and four games on any other team in

1131
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, everybody knows his name, um, But on

1132
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: this team, it's just garbage time stats. Right. So I

1133
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: don't know that they really need to find a way

1134
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: to get some play. Maybe they can keep obviously the

1135
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: Devin Williams thing didn't work out in their favor, but

1136
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: they need to be the team that ends up with

1137
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: transfers whether you know, um Lane Kiffin style, you know,

1138
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: West Coast bounce backs need to be headed to core ballast.

1139
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: They gotta find some way to close that talent gap.

1140
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean that that's when they got good, when they

1141
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: had Chad Johnson, t J Who's hooshman Zada? Uh, you know,

1142
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: and then they got Steven Jackson right after that, So

1143
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: that was how they got got good. But what did

1144
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: you think about Davis Mills to three touchdowns? And like

1145
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: Stanford still does not look look good. This does not

1146
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: look like a good football team or a team going

1147
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: to a bowl game. So what what was your take

1148
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: away from them? Well, Davis Mills at this point in

1149
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: his career should be ready to justify his rating as

1150
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in his entire recruiting class. Um. I mean,

1151
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: Davis Mills was ranked above some pretty good players. Uh.

1152
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: You know Jake From. He was ranked above Jake From. Uh,

1153
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: so you know it would be he was ranked ten

1154
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: spots ahead of Chase Garber's So this is something you'd

1155
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: like to see him come in and actually like handle

1156
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: business and not be a game manager. Um. But again,

1157
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: he was the number one ranked pro style quarterback from

1158
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: a class that overall was probably pretty pretty weak. Outside

1159
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: of Jake From. I mean, Hunter Johnson was number two,

1160
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: and now he's out at Northwestern basically, you know, running

1161
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: the ball every single time. Dylan McCaffrey was in there.

1162
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: Tristan Jeby is already transferred. Um, you know, so there's

1163
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: not a lot of really really great quarterbacks. But he

1164
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: was the best. And he does not look like he

1165
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a five star, he doesn't look like

1166
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: at number one overall guy. He looks like somebody who's

1167
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: sort of just a game manager. And that can be

1168
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: fine for them if they can surround him with the

1169
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: athletes they need to play Stanford football. But as you

1170
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 1: and I have talked about over and over and over again,

1171
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: it's not looking like that. It looks it looks like

1172
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: Stanford is dead, like for like that that they had

1173
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: their run, had their shot, and it's over right now.

1174
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. But the final game on

1175
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: the slate that we needed to talk about was, uh,

1176
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: even though we already kind of hit on it a

1177
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: little bit, was U Tak crushing Washington State. I thirteen.

1178
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: I looked at this game like Washington State, let let

1179
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: you say a beat them twice like that that that

1180
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: they couldn't get over the mental hurdle. They were still

1181
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: so stunned, embarrassed all of that that they couldn't gather

1182
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: themselves this week, and they lost the football game basically

1183
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: before it even started. Yeah, I mean this is weird,

1184
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: right because what would it take from Tyler Huntley for

1185
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: you to say like, oh, Tyler Huntley went out and

1186
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: won this game without saying Washington State lost the game.

1187
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: You know, what do you need to see from him?

1188
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: Beyond four yards two touchdowns, no interceptions, and you know,

1189
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: two touchdowns on the ground. That's as good as anyone

1190
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: can possibly play. He won. He to me, he won

1191
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: this game. He was better than the entire Washington State team.

1192
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: He definitely better than Anthon Gordon um In in this

1193
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: head to head matchup. You know whether that projects to

1194
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: the next level, you know whatever, But this is the

1195
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: best game I've ever seen Tyler Huntley play. This was

1196
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: the reason why it was the best game that you've

1197
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: ever seen him play is because it was the best

1198
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: game he's ever played. That's why he was a trick.

1199
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: He was throwing balls on the run. I remember he

1200
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: was getting ready to go scramble and then launched the

1201
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: ball down the left sideline for a strike like a

1202
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: forty yard pass. I was like, who is this mass Man.

1203
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: He must have heard that. He must have heard the

1204
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: rumors about him that the reason why they lost the

1205
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: game to USC was because he can't hack it offensively

1206
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: and he's limited. He was like, listen, I don't care

1207
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: nothing about it. He was putting up. I mean, like,

1208
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: these are damn near Jalen Hurts numbers at Oklahoma. Oklahoma's

1209
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: offense is just even better. That's what he did. It

1210
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: was very impressive. And Anthony Gordon, good lord from the

1211
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: second half of the USC, from the U second half

1212
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: of the U c l A game two. Now he

1213
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: doesn't look very good. And mind you, I've not been

1214
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: a big, huge Anthony Gordon supporter only because that there

1215
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: were two he was running Mike Leaser system. But even

1216
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,440
Speaker 1: in that, he didn't have the same possess as and

1217
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:08,799
Speaker 1: and an energy that Gardner meant you had. And Washington

1218
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: State was unable to run the football. They couldn't stop

1219
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: the run, they couldn't stop the pass, and Utah just

1220
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: literally handed the ball to whoever they wanted to, whether

1221
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: it was Henry Cole, Huntley, Brumfield, Uh, Jason Shelley even

1222
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: came in, Wilmore Vickers, Dixon, Simpkins, whoever the hell they

1223
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: gave a ball to. They did what they wanted to

1224
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: to do. This was a a all time beat down.

1225
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this was just a take take you behind

1226
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: the wood shead pull and just whoop you, just just

1227
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: whoop you, like they'll put you in jail. You do

1228
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: this to somebody right now. Yeah, And like we talked about,

1229
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: the last time that Utah won this game, it was

1230
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: behind star Low toll a and super good defensive line.

1231
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: And that's what Utah has again this year. And you

1232
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: can you can be a team that gets the ball

1233
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: out quick and I think he they threw almost fifty times. Um,

1234
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: you're running Mike Leach's offense in this, but you're coming

1235
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: off of the game where you watched usc it go

1236
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: over the top to get this win, and they're sort

1237
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: of trying to do the dink and duncan play underneath

1238
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: and you almost have to because you're not going to

1239
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 1: get time against this Utah line. So I think it

1240
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: was just stylistically, even though Washington State has come out

1241
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: on top, you know, four or five times in a row,

1242
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: stylistically this year, with as dominant as Utah's line was,

1243
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: it just wasn't gonna look great for Washington State offensively.

1244
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: What I did not anticipate was Tyler Huntley having a

1245
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow game exactly. So I mean that that kind

1246
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: of wraps up the whole entire Pack twelve in terms

1247
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: of the the teams, the games, all of that. So

1248
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: now it is time four our Pack twelve power rankings,

1249
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: and Ralph, I know that you're going to be stunned

1250
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: at min guess what it is, Okay, but I will

1251
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: let you start out first with your with with with

1252
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: your first half, with my my first half. Gosh um, Okay,

1253
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: so here we go. First half. I got Oregon State

1254
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: at twelve, U c l A At eleven, Stanford at ten,

1255
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: Washington State at nine, Arizona at eight kalent seven. Okay,

1256
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: that's that's actually not horrible. That's not horrible, Ralph. Your

1257
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: your your orders a little jacked up. But what I

1258
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: like the fact so your your bottom seven, your your

1259
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: seven or twelve is the same exact teams as my

1260
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: seven or twelve, just a different order. I got Oregon

1261
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: State at number twelve in the Judah spot. I got

1262
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: Stanford at number eleven. Yes, Stanford one, but they only

1263
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: beat Oregon State by three points. This is the game

1264
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: New Oregon State could have won. I got Washington State

1265
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: eight at ten. They looked terrible against Utah and they

1266
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: just lost to U c l A. I got U

1267
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: c l A at nine because this looks like a

1268
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,919
Speaker 1: team headed in the right direction. If Dorian Thompson Robinson

1269
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: is healthy, and obviously they just beat Washington to State,

1270
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: I think they'll beat Stanford. They can beat Oregon State.

1271
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: This just is what it is right right now. I

1272
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: got Arizona in the eight spot and I got Cal

1273
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: at number seven. That's who I got. Okay, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's that's that's pretty similar. Um. The rest

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Speaker 1: of mine is a mess that I don't feel great about.

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Speaker 1: And actually I will tell you that I just switched

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Speaker 1: my uh and then the more I think about it,

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Speaker 1: I just switched my five and six, which won't be

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Speaker 1: great for a lot of my followers. But coming in

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Speaker 1: at number six, I've got Arizona State, followed by USC

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Speaker 1: at five, Colorado at four, which I feel terrible about

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Speaker 1: for some reason. Um, Utah at three, Washington at two,

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Speaker 1: and Oregon at one. Is how I finish up my

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Speaker 1: power rankings this week. That that that is not bad,

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Speaker 1: but I am going to switch your five and six

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Speaker 1: with my five and six. I got USC at six,

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Speaker 1: Arizona State at five, Colorado at four, which obviously you

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Speaker 1: don't feel good about because their defense is to woo.

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Speaker 1: Why what did you feel good about having Colorado is

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Speaker 1: the fourth best team in the conference right now? I

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Speaker 1: mean that just coming out of your mouth sounds weird.

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Speaker 1: But offensively, they did the job when they had the chance.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how they do next week, but I'm having

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Speaker 1: a week off was the best thing to happen for

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Speaker 1: this team because everybody else, everybody else like eats their

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Speaker 1: own tail and it just leaves Colorado sitting there for

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Speaker 1: a week. And then you saw at three, Washington to

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Speaker 1: Washington at two and Oregon at one. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that this is the worst thing ever. I think that

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Speaker 1: that the conference is still InCred in good shape. And

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Speaker 1: obviously Oregon at Washington they're kind of leading the away

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Speaker 1: and you know they still have a chance to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But what Ralph? The last thing before we

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Speaker 1: get out of here, though, the so with the pack

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Speaker 1: twelve power rankings, you look at Colorado, Colorado looks like

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Speaker 1: a team even though that they are good. They look

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Speaker 1: like a team that is not You know that it's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily going to stay in that spot going going forward. True,

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Speaker 1: but with so many backup quarterbacks in the mix, because

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Speaker 1: this is the whole thing, right to beat Colorado, you

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Speaker 1: just go score more points than them because they don't

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Speaker 1: start quickly. Um, their offense can move the ball. But

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Speaker 1: if you can outscore them, you should be fine. But

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Speaker 1: the thing that's looking up for Colorado right now is

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Speaker 1: the Arizona State's got a freshman quarterback, you seas on

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Speaker 1: their third string quarterback, Devin Monster is playing for Cal.

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Speaker 1: Arizona is starting a freshman at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: Stanford has had two different games where their backup has

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Speaker 1: has has had to play, and Dorian Thompson Robinson is

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Speaker 1: ish potentially injured. He did not look good, uh with

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Speaker 1: coming out of that game. He was limping around on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines when I saw him. And so the thing,

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Speaker 1: the best thing that could work out in Cal's favor

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Speaker 1: is that other teams also can't really score. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we want to thank you guys for listening to

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve apostles. We appreciate your time, appreciate your energy,

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Speaker 1: make sure you guys share the podcast with a friend

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Speaker 1: football packs world podcast around the next episode will be

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Speaker 1: out on Thursday, per the usual Thank you guys, peace out,

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Speaker 1: and catch you guys later