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Speaker 1: And I sat here for four hours last Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: Here we are what I mean, I mean, it makes

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Speaker 1: You know, we're in a transition period in sports, are

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Speaker 1: getting ready for March Madness coming up. NBA playoffs are

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Speaker 1: get focused in on the draft, free agency and everything else.

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Speaker 1: But the good thing about February is, and sometimes I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's an opening week in a base but

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Speaker 1: I got to talk baseball, or you did to March Madness,

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Speaker 1: what else is there to talking about? So you can

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're going.

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Speaker 2: To do to Yeah, why not? Yeah, spin the wheel.

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to get to NBA first, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Mark Medina or Fox Sports Rada, NBA Insider is going

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Speaker 1: to be joining us, coming up here shortly. So I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you watch the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, actually, Steve, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I forgot it was on, and when I realized it

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Speaker 2: And then it turns out I miss nothing.

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Speaker 1: You miss nothing.

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Speaker 2: That's so it turns out here here are the.

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Speaker 1: Two numbers that emerge from this game. Three hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety seven and three. Those are the two numbers. The

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Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety seven was the combines points scored,

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Speaker 1: which was obviously not only the most of an All

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Speaker 2: I did not know that. I did not know that.

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Speaker 1: There were three fouls called. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, why even have the rest there?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Adam Silver after the game, they're presenting, you know,

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Speaker 1: the frustration on the face of Adam Silver because he

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Speaker 1: we need to have a more competitive game. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: but it's got to resemble a game where something matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a couple of highlights.

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Speaker 1: I just it was like, I was thinking, we're actually

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Speaker 1: I actually scored two eleven. The game wasn't competitive, the

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a way to fix it overnight.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to happen next year because

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Speaker 3: clearly all of the players are on the same page.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that they've said is money, like the

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Speaker 3: And they're literally telling us, pay us for this All

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Speaker 3: frustrating and annoying to hear. But if that's what's gonna help,

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Speaker 3: like if you if it hits fifty points, you lose

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Speaker 3: half the money. Like you start with a certain amount

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Speaker 3: of money that everyone is gonna split whoever wins, but

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Speaker 3: once it reaches fifty points, it's half the money. If

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting play. So less is more, less is more,

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Speaker 1: so less means more money in your pocket, exactly here,

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Speaker 1: here's the problem on Sie and it all goes back

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Speaker 1: to the guy that created this mess, and his name

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Speaker 1: is Adam Silver. There is no commissioner of sports to

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Speaker 1: get some more praise than Adam Silver, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're always ripping Goodell, We're always ripping manfred Gary Batman

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Speaker 1: somehow Adam Silver gets this universal praise for the way

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Speaker 2: Because it's a player's league.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go back when he inherited the job

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Speaker 1: get stern On and I'm asking about this decision, and

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Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, I think it's important. I said, commission,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I said to him, And I knew

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Speaker 1: It'say like what you know. His response was, if you're saying,

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Speaker 1: basically telling the players, this is what we need to do.

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Speaker 1: When Adam Silver became the commission of the NBA, he

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Speaker 1: He forced the sale of the Clippers. Of course, Steve

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Speaker 1: Sterling an insanely rich guy, two billion dollars for a

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Speaker 1: But it also set the precedent of where we were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to lie to you. At the time,

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Speaker 2: I did not think that. I thought Adam.

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Speaker 3: Silver handled that situation correctly. As a Clippers fan, I

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Speaker 3: thought he handled it correctly. But you're right, it was

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Speaker 3: the beginning of what we are living through right now.

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Speaker 3: And what sucks and this is is not that they're children,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like David Stern was like an authority

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Speaker 3: None of these players, I think, fear in any way

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Speaker 3: going to do something, but the authority is not there,

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Speaker 3: and you can it's evident and it gets worse and

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Speaker 3: worse every year, especially with the All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: Well, we had a point where now you have to

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Speaker 1: have a new rule to play at least sixty five

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Speaker 1: games to be eligible for any postseason honors, which are

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Speaker 1: You can see if you make the All NBA team,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they allow that to happen. I

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Speaker 1: don't Yeah, the amount of money pouring into the players

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Speaker 1: of what we saw. You know, you can complain about

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Speaker 1: the state of the All Star Game, but it's honestly

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Speaker 1: a reflection of what we've been seeing from the NBA

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Speaker 1: all season long. Scoring is way up this year.

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Speaker 2: Why is it not just three pointers? That's not what

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Speaker 1: It's a complete lack of defense. Yep, yep, guys going

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Speaker 1: But their attitude is fine. If you're forcing me to

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Speaker 1: be on the court for more games, then where are

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Speaker 1: little energies on that defensive end exactly.

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Speaker 3: And it just seems like, though, don't you think also

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Speaker 3: that the game itself has changed where I feel like

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Speaker 3: back then there were players who were just known to

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Speaker 3: defense very far and few between, and the ones that

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Speaker 3: are like you know PJ. Tucker who is older and

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Speaker 3: can't find a place, but he was like a defense

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Speaker 2: But I feel like we don't see that anymore. Guys

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Speaker 1: Well, you had enforcers, enforcers, pullam Agon, call them whatever,

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Speaker 1: but they did the dirty work to allow the star

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Speaker 1: I understand you had a chance to check out that

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Speaker 3: Mark, We're gonna jump to my Clippers real quick. You

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Speaker 8: and I don't rule them out as great contenders, but

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Speaker 8: I would give the edge of the Clippers because of

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Speaker 8: what I just mentioned, presuming that they can finally stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: All right, One other thing here about what's going on

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. Still, the two biggest names in this

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Speaker 1: league are Lebron and Steath. They are still the two

439
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Speaker 1: biggest names in the league because of their pedigree, because

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Speaker 1: of what they've accomplished and what they still bring to

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Speaker 1: the game. Their teams right now are sitting in the

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Speaker 1: nine and ten slots in the Western Conference. Can you

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Speaker 1: see either the Lakers or Warriors? We saw the Lakers

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Speaker 1: make a run to the Western Conference finals before getting

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Speaker 1: blown out and four straight by Denver, But can you

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Speaker 1: see either one of these teams making a similar run

447
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Speaker 1: in this year's playass.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it'll happen now. As I mentioned before,

449
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Speaker 8: with the Warriors, you never rule out any of those

450
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Speaker 8: possibilities because of their history and step. I would say

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Speaker 8: the same thing with the Lakers because of Lebron and

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Speaker 8: their experience. But I think that if you compared the two,

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Speaker 8: I would have more optimism on the Lakers going on

454
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Speaker 8: a longer run than the Warriors simply because Lebron James

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Speaker 8: Anthony Davis surprisingly have been mostly healthy this season, They've

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Speaker 8: played at the dominant level. They're expected to get some

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Speaker 8: of their key guys back soon with Jared Vanderbilt and

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Speaker 8: Cam Reddish, and while both teams have been on a

459
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Speaker 8: little bit of a winning streak lately, the Lakers inconsistency

460
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Speaker 8: seem to have more to do with the injuries and

461
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Speaker 8: the incohesive rotations, whether it's Starvenham or just the injuries itself,

462
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Speaker 8: where with the Warriors it was a lot of it

463
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Speaker 8: having to do with Clay Thompson Andrew Wiggins not playing

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Speaker 8: up to their potential and that has still bared its

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Speaker 8: fruits so far. But I think even with that, the

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Speaker 8: Lakers ceiling at best is second round similar because of

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Speaker 8: just how competitive the West landscape is. But again, there's

468
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Speaker 8: no heavy favorite or it's inevitable, and injuries can happen

469
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Speaker 8: any team, so you know there is a pathway for

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Speaker 8: them to overachieve.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know the NBA is rooting for release one

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Speaker 1: of those teams, because again, which players draw the biggest

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Speaker 1: set of eyeballs? You know, from the casual end. Look,

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Speaker 1: the hardcore NBA fans going to watch whatever teams are

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Speaker 1: out there, but Lebron and Steph are those kind of

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Speaker 1: guys that transcend a hardcore NBA fan. It will bring eyeballs.

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Speaker 1: Mark always a pleasure man. We like this Saturday date.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it again next week.

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Speaker 8: All right, looking forward to appreciate you too.

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Speaker 1: That's Mark Medina, join us, Sarah Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

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Speaker 1: And look who's in the house right there, beef in

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Speaker 1: Brian finling.

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Speaker 9: Deep into the bullpen to bring me in like a

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Speaker 9: bullpen catcher. I never know when we're going to see

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 1: I get excited because I always want to infringe on

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Speaker 1: your time as you're actually trying to do your job.

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Speaker 1: You never do that well I do. I mean you

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Speaker 1: tolerate it. I appreciate that. I have things I always

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about, So you always have

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Speaker 1: things to talk about. I always because I'm talking all

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Speaker 1: day long. Do you ever? Yeah? I was gonna like,

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Speaker 1: how many words do you think?

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Speaker 9: Like MONSI? How many words do you think? Steve utters

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Speaker 9: in a day? Hundreds of thousands of words?

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I actually saw a study this is legit, where they

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Speaker 1: talked about how many words per day a man says

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Speaker 1: versus a woman, Okay, and it was something like two

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Speaker 1: thousand for a man and five thousand for a.

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Speaker 2: Woman, and for Steve Hartman it's ten thousand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I am very in touch with my female

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Speaker 1: side because I can far exceed the word amount of

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Speaker 1: just about any woman on the planet. I think, but

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Speaker 1: it's not a normal state of mind. Guys are very

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Speaker 1: understated by nature. Are you a good listener because of

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Speaker 1: all the talking you do? Terrible, terrible, which is which

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Speaker 1: is why a lot to say, Look if she's trying

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Speaker 1: to say something and immediately I talk right over.

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Speaker 2: Ali, he admits it.

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Speaker 1: It's the first day. Oh no, No. I have many

513
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Speaker 1: times over the years work with somebody where they'll say

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Speaker 1: something and I literally repeat it word for work, like

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Speaker 1: they have a big point to make. And then I

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Speaker 1: come up and I got this thought and I literally

517
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Speaker 1: repeat something they just said.

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Speaker 9: So while they're saying that, what are you doing? Are

519
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Speaker 9: you scrolling through your internet? Are you looking for something

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Speaker 9: to say yourself where you totally forget what the other

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Speaker 9: host is saying while you're doing whatever you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Look, this is being brutally honest, but I love this.

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Speaker 1: This is the back channels of radio. But here's my

524
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Speaker 1: thought process. Everything that I think about is interesting to me.

525
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Speaker 1: Like when I just sit alone and I'm not with

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Speaker 1: anybody else, every thought in my head has interest to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about things that I don't have interest in.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of the times when I'm even conversing

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Speaker 1: with somebody, I'm more lost in my own world of like,

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Speaker 1: what's interesting to me right in this moment, and it

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Speaker 1: may not be what that person is saying, which is

532
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Speaker 1: really bad.

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Speaker 9: We'll get that part of it well, MONSI. You remember

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00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 9: Steve was telling us the story. I think you went

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Speaker 9: all the way to Notre Dame and you hung out

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Speaker 9: in a library for eight hours a day, and I

537
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Speaker 9: think you slept in the library and you're writing down

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Speaker 9: stats from like Notre Dame football from nineteen thirty seven

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Speaker 9: pre World War two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's interesting to you. Oh, I could do that forever.

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Speaker 2: That was his vacation.

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Speaker 1: That was your vaga. I did a similar tip to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: or I took a rare three days off to sit

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Speaker 1: in a room and look through media guys, because its

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Speaker 1: ten hours a day because as you know, Monci Steve

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Speaker 1: doesn't do well with the.

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Speaker 2: Day off, right, No, I don't. He wouldn't know what

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Speaker 2: to do with him.

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Speaker 1: You know what he needs?

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Speaker 9: He needs a human hamster wheel that would be perfect

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Speaker 9: for you.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we can get him like a Rubik's cue.

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Speaker 9: Yes, and then you know, yeah, stress ball something something

554
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Speaker 9: to keep going.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what so bad.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of stress coming out of this wake

557
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 9: Forest Duke basketball game. And I say this because it

558
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Speaker 9: was an upset win for wake Forest here and they

559
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Speaker 9: end up taking it seventy four to seventy two against

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Speaker 9: number eight Duke. Let me check in on that final

561
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 9: score actually, because it was just updated. The final score

562
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Speaker 9: actually is eighty three seventy nine and favorite waite Forest

563
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Speaker 9: again and number eight Duke. But the real story here

564
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 9: is the court storming that happened afterwards. And Kyle Philipowski,

565
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 9: who is a star, had seventeen points for the Dukies

566
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Speaker 9: in this game. Seemingly when the throws of students rushed

567
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 9: onto the floor, he ran into a couple of them,

568
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Speaker 9: or actually they ran into him, and then he had

569
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Speaker 9: to be helped off the floor, was hobbling off the court,

570
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Speaker 9: and they think from video evidence and obviously we're gonna

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Speaker 9: wait to hear what John Shire, the Duchies had coach

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Speaker 9: has to say about this. But could it have been

573
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Speaker 9: a court storming incident where one of your best players

574
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Speaker 9: gets injured? That is going to open up a whole

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Speaker 9: set of new discussion points and debate about court storming

576
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Speaker 9: and where it is and where it's going.

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Speaker 1: Well, you remember how coach k was about this, Well,

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Speaker 1: he would most of his team, he would make sure

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Speaker 1: they were already gone before me. And he said, look,

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Speaker 1: and I understand like when Duke loses a game, the

581
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Speaker 1: other team is, you know, their fans are really excited.

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Speaker 1: But you got you got to get us off the court.

583
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Speaker 1: Are you allow everybody to pour on the court. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a fair argument. Yeah, well said, I'll

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Speaker 1: just leave you with this.

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Speaker 9: Guy's just a couple other college basketball games, since that's

587
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Speaker 9: taking center stage all right now. Number twenty South Carolina

588
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 9: is leading Ole Miss forty to twenty seven. They just

589
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 9: started the second half their number ten North Carolina and

590
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Speaker 9: enjoying a fifteen to six lead against Virginia. Virginia has

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Speaker 9: six points and there's about six minutes left in the

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Speaker 9: first half. Go figure there finals to mention Number two

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Speaker 9: Houston with an eighty two to seventy six and thrawing

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Speaker 9: win over number eleven Baylor, that coming in overtime. Number

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Speaker 9: four Arizona holding off Washington ninety one to seventy five.

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Speaker 9: Number six I was State seventy one to sixty four

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Speaker 9: winners against West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: And lastly number.

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Speaker 9: Twenty four Florida takes it to Jerry Stackhouse and Vanderbilt

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Speaker 9: seventy seven to sixty four. Is they get it back

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Speaker 9: to Montcy and Steve Jerry Stackhouse and the Combodours are

602
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Speaker 9: seven and twenty on the year, and they keep paying him,

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Speaker 9: And I think it's your number five for him for

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Speaker 9: the Commodore's good player. But coach, I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's at some point. And there's there's

606
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: always excuses, right like, uh, well we've had injuries or

607
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: a player that we thought was this player turned out

608
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Speaker 1: to be this kind of player. But when it comes

609
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: to coaches, you have one stat, wins and losses. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's that's your stat. And if you lose a lot

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Speaker 1: more games than you would remember what you what happened

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Speaker 1: to you ing at Georgetown, Remember that that last year

613
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Speaker 1: they lose like twenty in a row. It's like you

614
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Speaker 1: were a Hall of Fame player but is just not working.

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Speaker 1: So at some point you have to turn the page. No,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't well. The hard part and why it's so

617
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Speaker 1: rare that a great player in any sport becomes a

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Speaker 1: huge success in coaching the same sport is this, And

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Speaker 1: there are exceptions every rule, but this is what it's

620
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Speaker 1: rare is that when you're a great player, you have

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Speaker 1: only your own perspective on the game, and that's hard

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Speaker 1: to translate to players that are not you. They're just

623
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Speaker 1: not of that level. So you could you could say,

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Speaker 1: why are you not seeing this? And the answer is

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Speaker 1: because I'm not you. The fact that you were able

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Speaker 1: to see whatever it is that made you the superstar

627
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: player cannot be translated. That's why so many times in

628
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Speaker 1: sports you got these guys that never played the game

629
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Speaker 1: or you know, barely made it out of college or

630
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Speaker 1: the minor leagues to become the great coaches because their

631
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Speaker 1: perspective on the game is translated to players because you

632
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Speaker 1: know they're they're seeing a different level of games.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even think of it like that, but it

634
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Speaker 2: makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it is a different perspective when you

636
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Speaker 3: are the superstar, right, You're.

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Speaker 1: Seeing a game like Matt Dave Johnson when he took

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Speaker 1: over as the interim coach of the Lakers, and he's

639
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Speaker 1: trying to translate what it was that he saw in

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Speaker 1: the court. Well, there's only a handful of people ever

641
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Speaker 1: saw what you saw in the court. The idea that

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Speaker 1: you knew were all other nine players on the court

643
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Speaker 1: were at all times that you could make passes if

644
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Speaker 1: you had to think about the pass, it wasn't there,

645
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: your your anticipation, everything else. Not everybody sees the game

646
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Speaker 1: that way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so many of us see the world. Like Steve Hartman,

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 9: Literally going to see that, Muncie, you took those words

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Speaker 9: out of my Oh.

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Speaker 1: I was just about to say that to wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: We're on the same page, but I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Great job is always be femial. Checking with you a

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Speaker 1: little bit later on once again, we're coming live from

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Speaker 1: the tire rack dot Com studios. All right, Mancia on

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Speaker 1: the other side, I want to get to another subject matter.

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Speaker 1: Bfen brought up fan behavior, and I want to get

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Speaker 1: into a little fan behavior and exactly where it is

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Speaker 1: we should draw the line, if any line should be

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Speaker 1: drawn at all. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Steve Harbin, Montsiblanos Here Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from

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Speaker 1: the Tirerack dot Com Studios SORR. We're talking about fan behavior,

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Speaker 1: storming the court, putting people in danger. That's like a

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Speaker 1: spontaneous celebration. But where where do you draw the line

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Speaker 1: in terms of fan behavior. We had an incident where

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Speaker 1: Kade and the Phoenix Suns are taking on the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Mavericks and the Sons were running onto the court and

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Speaker 1: as Katie ran onto the court, a woman yelled out

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Speaker 1: the B word at kd. He immediately turned to confront her.

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Speaker 1: She didn't seem all that intimidated. In fact, if anything,

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Speaker 1: she was almost trying to explain to him was a

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Speaker 1: term and endearment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, you're crazy, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, shake your hand and everything else, and I was

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Speaker 1: you know, the social media's reaction to Kat was like

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Speaker 1: it was a mixed bag. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people thought, Wow, he's really hyper sensitive, but others are saying, no,

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Speaker 1: there's no need for that. I mean, he's just like

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Speaker 1: everyone else. He just happens to make a zillion dollars

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Speaker 1: playing a basketball game. And I don't know about you, Monts.

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Speaker 1: I'm anxious to hear what you have to say, but

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Speaker 1: I've always been a little torn. I hate to say

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Speaker 1: I'm riding the fence on this one. Yeah, but it's

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Speaker 1: one I really have had a hard time taking one

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Speaker 1: side over or another in terms of fan behavior, because

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Speaker 1: I do believe that the fans do have a right.

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Speaker 1: I know I engage in this a few times over

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Speaker 1: the years, and I'm a very loud guy, so what

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Speaker 1: I can say usually has heard. But I can also

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Speaker 1: understand from a player standpoint. I imagine if we were

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Speaker 1: sitting in this studio and there are people booing us act.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know there are people listening out there

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Speaker 1: that boo all the time, but there are people actually

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Speaker 1: in studio booing us while we're trying to do a

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Speaker 1: radio show. You know, what kind of impact would that

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Speaker 1: have on the show. So I would love to hear

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Speaker 1: what you have to say about this, right, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like if we did have booers here, I

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Speaker 2: would laugh. I would just laugh the whole time.

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Speaker 3: So I'm kind of with you of this being on

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Speaker 3: the fence, Like, I don't know if I want to

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Speaker 3: implement rules, right, But I am one that would boo

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Speaker 3: a player.

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Speaker 2: I'm the one that would yell at, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Kevin Durant, you suck if he's playing the Clippers,

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Speaker 3: even though he doesn't suck. I don't scream profanities at players,

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Speaker 3: but I'm definitely I'm one of those fans that will

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Speaker 3: yell stuff, you know, when somebody's playing the Clippers. But

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Speaker 3: I also think that if I say, like, if I

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Speaker 3: am going to call Kevin Durant that B word then

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Speaker 3: and he wants to turn around and call me that,

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Speaker 3: it's fair game, you fight fire with fire.

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Speaker 2: So if you are going.

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Speaker 3: To be a rude fan, and I mean, because like again,

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Speaker 3: I'll y'all at Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Drett, you suck, even though we know he doesn't suck.

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Speaker 3: But some people do get really nasty, and I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's fair to hold the player to be the

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Speaker 3: one that has to rise above it. Why do the player?

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Speaker 3: Why do the players have to rise above it? No,

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Speaker 3: the fans shouldn't be disrespectful. But I'm all about fans.

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Speaker 3: Yell mean, it's talking smack. I'm into it.

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Speaker 2: It's just like the ones that go overboard.

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Speaker 3: If a player wants to come back and throw it

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Speaker 3: down with you, that is your problem.

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Speaker 1: Hi, I told you bet. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Do you both think that this is part of what

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Speaker 10: we've built up both in the media and from teams themselves.

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Speaker 1: It's about defending the house.

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Speaker 10: It's about we want to be a tough place on

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Speaker 10: the road to play in the playoffs because our crowd

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Speaker 10: is really into it. We get the meters up in

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Speaker 10: NFL all the time about making noise. We've catered for

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Speaker 10: a long time to the fans are part of the

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Speaker 10: game and make the hostile environments. And I feel like

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Speaker 10: this is kind of the knock on effect front. I'm

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Speaker 10: with you one hundred percent on this chrisk. I've always

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Speaker 10: looked at it that way. You want to intimidate the

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Speaker 10: opposing team. Yes, this is not your house, this is

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Speaker 10: our house.

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Speaker 1: This is my frustration as a fan over the many years,

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Speaker 1: and what I talk about the overall camaraderie of players

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Speaker 1: that I mean, no, if I am here rooting for

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Speaker 1: you to win, I want to believe that every person

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Speaker 1: on the roster of the team I'm rooting for hates

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Speaker 1: that other team as much as I do. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to see I remember, like, you know, Magic Johnson

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah Thomas were you know, friends. They had sort

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Speaker 1: of like good nature, like kiss on the cheek before

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Speaker 1: a game, and I'm like, what are you doing Magic that.

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Speaker 1: If you want to do that away from the court,

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Speaker 1: that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a perception thing.

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Speaker 1: I do not want you to the Pistons are the enemy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, at least play it up for the court, give

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Speaker 10: us a little pro wrestling, make us at least believe

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Speaker 10: you hate each other.

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Speaker 2: Right right exactly? No, I one agree with you.

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Speaker 3: And I got to give Katie credit because he handled

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Speaker 3: that pretty like.

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Speaker 2: He turned around and he was like.

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Speaker 1: What, well, they wanted to throw this woman out and

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Speaker 1: he said.

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Speaker 3: No, and he said no, which again, good for you, KD.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he turned around and he was like, what

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Speaker 3: say that to my face? And like you said that

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Speaker 3: quickly changed? She was like, oh no, let me shake

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Speaker 3: your hand, and then the guy she was with was like,

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Speaker 3: I host a podcast.

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 1: What he goes, Yeah, I host a sports podcast. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where that came into the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Why I would.

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Speaker 11: I don't know how KD kept up un unless that

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Speaker 11: guy put her up to it.

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Speaker 3: And to get a maybe. But even with all of that,

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Speaker 3: I would have not handled it as well as Katie.

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Speaker 2: I think in that moment, well, I mean he didn't

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Speaker 2: have to turn around. He didn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean he could have just walked on to the

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Speaker 1: court and that would have been Yeah, good for.

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Speaker 3: Him for turning around. I would have turned around too.

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Speaker 3: I would have been like, what you want to say

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Speaker 3: that again to my face. I would have done that.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I fire with fire, I know that.

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Speaker 1: But when it talk about and when we talk about violence,

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Speaker 1: like if if you run onto the field or you

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Speaker 1: run onto the court, no no, no, no, no, no

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Speaker 1: no no no. I've loved the old one, you know

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Speaker 1: where he get tackled or someone even the malice in

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Speaker 1: the Palace, which was such an embarrassment for the NBA.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I got to know meta world Peace

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Speaker 1: a little bit when he played for the Lakers and everything.

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Speaker 2: Is he still meta?

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Speaker 1: I think he's still met at I thought it was

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Speaker 1: the panda's friend. What happened to that, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, he's not a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was it was he. Unfortunately he went

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Speaker 1: after the wrong guy because somebody threw something onto the court.

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Speaker 1: He was like laying down on the bench and somebody

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Speaker 1: hit him with somebody I would react who threw that?

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately went after the wrong guy. But so I don't

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Speaker 1: condone any of that. But but verbal, man, I've heard

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Speaker 1: some really good hecklers in my dead Like we're even

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Speaker 1: the players some times are laughing, even if it's personal,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking about your mama or your grandma or

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. There's a fine line.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Some people talk smack to me on Twitter, and sometimes

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Speaker 3: I laugh out loud because it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Fun me funny. No one laughs anymore, that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna laugh about the quarterback situation in

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Speaker 1: switch gears to the National Football League? Why not? And

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Speaker 1: before we get to the quarterback situation, which is always

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Speaker 1: a hot topic when it comes to the NFL, what

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Speaker 1: are The big story that came out this week was

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Speaker 1: the unreal leap in the salary cap in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So people forget they actually lowered the cap after the

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Speaker 1: lack of revenue coming in. Whether that's true or not,

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Speaker 1: threatened to open up the books, and no one really

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Speaker 1: the salary cap. And you know, it was interesting to

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Speaker 1: hole watching the kind of video that only I would watch.

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Speaker 1: And it was a documentary done about the NFL and

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Speaker 1: the decade of the nineteen fifties. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: literally the stone age of the NFL. But it was

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Speaker 1: leap into the national consciousness that would lead to where

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Speaker 1: we are today. And it was a league that was

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Speaker 1: run on a budget. It wasn't super popular. Baseball was

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Speaker 1: the number one sport at the time. Obviously, the NBA

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Speaker 1: was very much in its infancy. College football, horse racing, boxing,

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Speaker 1: these were the biggest sports of that decade. But they

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Speaker 1: handled in it in the right way. But I also

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Speaker 1: was reminded of players that played in the fifties, you're

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Speaker 1: that league not only had an off season job, they

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Speaker 1: had an in season job to supplement their income. And

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Speaker 1: the sport had seemingly no rules like you talk about

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Speaker 1: the Wow Wow West. I mean head hunting, like clothes lines.

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Speaker 1: Here's no penalty in those days of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like, let's see how we get how much would you

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Speaker 2: get away with?

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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the great quarterbacks of that decade

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Speaker 1: was Bobby Lane. He never wore a face mask. He

870
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: played from nineteen forty eight to nineteen sixty two. He

871
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: never had a bar in front of his helmet. Wow,

872
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: his whole career.

873
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

874
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: He wore no hip pads, he wore no knee pads.

875
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: He just you know, very limited shoulder pads. These guys

876
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: were tough, and they weren't making a lot of money. Now,

877
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't expect any NFL player to play like that.

878
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: That's insanity what they did back in the day. But

879
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: when I see these numbers and this is going to

880
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: be more money in the owner's pockets, and it's going

881
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: to be more money in the player's pockets as well,

882
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: they should get more money because if there's that kind

883
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: of being made, you're the ones putting your lives on

884
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: the line. But where's the incentive? You know, I never

885
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: worry about Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. I mean, Patrick

886
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Mahomes is not the highest paid quarterback in this league.

887
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: It's not even close. He could, as Tom Brady was

888
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: never the highest paid quarterback, he could walk into that

889
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: chief's office and say, all right, let's get let's go

890
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: now with this.

891
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? I was thinking the same thing.

892
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean is we're going to get into this quarterback conversation.

893
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: The distance between Mahomes and every other quarterback in this

894
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: league just one up ten fold this year. I said

895
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: it before the playoffs began. If he can navigate being

896
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: on the road for the first time in his career

897
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: and still come out on top with a very subpar

898
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: group of wide receivers, his star power goes from up

899
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: here to next level stratosphere. And that's exactly what happened.

900
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: So he could say I don't care what any other

901
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: quarterback is making.

902
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Double easily, no questions asked.

903
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: Double it because every single team in the league wants

904
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: me as their quarterback. But he won't do that. But

905
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: for a lot of players in this league, and I'm looking,

906
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: it's human nature. It's human nature. Yeah, I got millions

907
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: and millions and millions of dollars pouring into my bank account.

908
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: I really want to put my life on the line,

909
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: knowing long term effects that could come from playing this game.

910
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's wrong. It's just, like I said,

911
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: it's human nature to wonder what kind of commitment these

912
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: players have with as much money as they're making.

913
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: That's a very very good question, and I wish I

914
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: knew the answer, because when I saw the increase in

915
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: the cap, I was like, WHOA, And I instantly thought, yeah,

916
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: in theory, this makes it so that teams have more

917
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: money for a full roster, but you know the stars

918
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: are now gonna demand more money, and so how does

919
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: this really benefit your entire roster versus the ones who

920
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: have already been benefiting benefiting to all this money.

921
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: That's instantly what I thought.

922
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 4: I was like.

923
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: And again, Patrick Mahomes doesn't seem like the guy that's

924
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: going to do that, but he can, and he's the

925
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: only one that really can demand it, because this victory

926
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: he just had is is ridiculous. It's the most meaningful

927
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: and the most heavyweight victory compared to.

928
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: His other Super Bowls and other performances we've seen.

929
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: No, I one hundred percent agree, yeah, now, this was

930
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: his greatest achievement. And I was always holding back on

931
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: my appraisal of Patrick Mahomes. I thought a lot of

932
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: things were in the right place, right time, obviously coming

933
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: to our team that was already a playoff team when

934
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: he came to Kansas City. And then of course I'll

935
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: blowout loss in one Super Bowl, followed by that meltdown

936
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: the second half in the AFC Championship game against the Bengals,

937
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: and then Tyreek Hill leaves and I'm like, all right, right,

938
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: remember you have the Well, that's the last we're gonna

939
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: hear a Mahomes. Now he's went back to Yeah, I mean,

940
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, like I said in my book, now he's

941
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: passed Montana. So there's only one guy that he has

942
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: to reel in, and that's Tom Brady. But yeah, I mean,

943
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's difficult, And this is why it's hard

944
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: for teams to evaluate because I've I've talked to general

945
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: managers about this. So you get a rookie contract, and

946
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of incentive at that end of your

947
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: rookie contract, fourth or fifth here as you embark on

948
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: the potential to be a free agent to max out

949
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: that last year. We see it time and again, and

950
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you take that next level

951
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: contract and what happened to that guy exactly? And how

952
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: difficult it is to evaluate this? Is this like the

953
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: X factor? When they draft players, we always look about

954
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: the X factor? Does he have the X factor? You know?

955
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: How good is he actually playing this game? What kind

956
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: of commitment is he going to make that is necessary

957
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: to play at a consistently high level in the greatest

958
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: football league in the world. How do you figure that out?

959
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: And the answer is you really.

960
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: Can't, really can't.

961
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're rolling the dice and for some guys

962
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: they cash in with those big contracts and that's it.

963
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really do.

964
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: Just have to hope that your players are going to

965
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: want to give it their one hundred and ten percent

966
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: every single time, and that they're not just gonna be like,

967
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: all right, once I got the contract, I'm good, I'm

968
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: gonna take it easy.

969
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: Now.

970
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: That's you can only hope that, but there's no way

971
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: to tell.

972
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 3: There's no way to guarantee it. You can't put it

973
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: in the contract.

974
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: Are you actually playing one hundred and ten percent? Yes,

975
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: I am. You can't. You can't do that.

976
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 3: It's I don't know, I don't know how It seems

977
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: like this is not going to be the most positive

978
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 3: effect increasing the cap this much, right, it seems that way,

979
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: And then I read that it's not gonna keep increasing

980
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: at that rate come twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five. So, like,

981
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: people don't get that excited. It's not going to be

982
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: that big of a jump. This is just a jump

983
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: from what you just said happening with the pandemic in

984
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. But I just don't see

985
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: how this really makes the teams that need I know,

986
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: like certain teams Chargers, they're probably loving this, the Ravens

987
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: probably loving this.

988
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: But again, your stars are still going to want their money.

989
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: Here's the other part of it though, So the number

990
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: that they come up with, the cap NUMBERNY coincides with

991
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: how much money each team gets as part of an

992
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: equal distribution of the television rights. Now, this is what

993
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: separates the NFL from all the other leagues. And this

994
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: is going back to that documentary I saw from the

995
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. As the NFL turned the page on the

996
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: fifties to go in the sixties, they hired a young

997
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: commissioner named Pete Roselle. There was also a new league

998
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: that was forming in the American Football League that was

999
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: going to compete for talent coming out of college, and

1000
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: they had some big money guys involved in that league.

1001
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Hunt, of course, the patriarch of the NAAF, whose

1002
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: son Clark obviously now owns the Chiefs the NFL knew

1003
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: that this young league had guys that had deep pockets

1004
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: and they could come up with that kind of money.

1005
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: So for the Green Bays of the world to compete

1006
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: with the New York's and the las and the major

1007
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: market teams, there had to be something that balanced the

1008
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: playing field. And it was that decision made sixty five

1009
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: years ago that was agreed upon by the Mayor of

1010
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: Family in New York and the Rams in LA and

1011
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: all these different big city teams that yes, we agree,

1012
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: we'll have an equal share of television revenue. And that's

1013
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: been in place ever since. You don't have that in

1014
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: other sports, No you don't. And so in baseball you

1015
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: have payrolls to fluctuate from three hundred million to forty million,

1016
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: but not in the NFL. But here's the problem. Whereas

1017
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: you might have certain ownership groups that are hell bent

1018
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: on using their money somehow to win a championship, there

1019
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: are others saying I can just sit on this yep.

1020
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: And since they're never forced to open their books, where's

1021
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: all that money going? Because if you're just hitting the

1022
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: cap in terms of salaries that you're giving out on

1023
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: the team, there's no money out of pocket.

1024
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1025
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: It's equal. You're literally handed a check and then you're

1026
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: just handing that check. The television rights are literally paying

1027
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: your entire payroll. That's a pretty good deal.

1028
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: I mean, is it or is it an unfair deal?

1029
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: For some of those owners like you just said that

1030
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: don't really care.

1031
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: It's hard.

1032
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: Well, and that's hard when you're a fan of that.

1033
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: Team, that's exactly. And the fans are the ones bringing

1034
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: in this money in the grants. It's the fans.

1035
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 3: They're watching, they're going, they're buying, they're drinking and eating

1036
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 3: at these events. Like the fans are the ones, you know,

1037
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: and so here to hear.

1038
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 12: That, to know that is so frustrating, right because you're like,

1039
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 12: and this is like when I was down and say

1040
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 12: and diego with this podres organization, right, small market team,

1041
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden you get ownership there.

1042
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: Peter Seidler, who says because he was he had been

1043
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: a two time cancer survivor. Of course he passed away

1044
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: this last fall, but he was like, I want to

1045
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: win a championship, and he started spending money, Like where's

1046
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: this money coming from? And it exposed the awful truth

1047
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: to some owners. They all have the money, right, but

1048
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: some just choose to. Well, we're a small market team.

1049
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: We can't afford that. Oh yeah, you can't. I'm telling it.

1050
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: The Padres caused nightmares for everybody because they exposed the

1051
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: lie that these small market teams can't afford to pay

1052
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: the big money when the fact is you can, you

1053
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: just choose not to.

1054
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: And that's what's you know, frustrating.

1055
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: We're talking about the Clippers, like being part of a

1056
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 3: team where the owner doesn't care. And it's obvious because

1057
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 3: you see around that others evidently care. And I know

1058
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 3: we can't do anything about that, but it's like, don't

1059
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: you wish fans could just vote owners out?

1060
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: You're out? Well, I know a few organizations that would

1061
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: vote them out. I mean again, when the Chargers moved

1062
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: from San Diego to LA and you know the first

1063
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: you know withdraw pains after all these years, I mean,

1064
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: would you welcome the Chargers back and it was universal

1065
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat, as long as they have different ownership.

1066
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: Right, and I understand that, I get it, no judgment

1067
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: to those fans.

1068
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: All right, coming up on the other side, we're going

1069
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback situation, which is always a

1070
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: hot topic in the NFL. One team in particular seems

1071
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: to be in search of a quarterback. The question is

1072
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: which one is the right fit. We'll break it down.

1073
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1074
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,840
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1075
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1077
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1078
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1079
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1080
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1081
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1082
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1083
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: get to quarterback. And as I mentioned, the problem now

1084
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: for teams is this twofold when you have one quarterback

1085
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: that is now leap years ahead of every other quarterback

1086
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: in the league. Which now Mahomes is just like Brady

1087
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: was back in the day. I guess the question from

1088
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: an ownership standpoint is how far do we go in

1089
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: terms of any kind of commitment, financially, whatever kind of

1090
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: commitment we're making to get to a quarterback knowing full

1091
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: well that it doesn't matter what quarterback you pay, whether

1092
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: it's an existing quarterback in this league or of quarterback

1093
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: coming out in the draft, they're not Patrick Mahomes.

1094
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't think like that.

1095
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 3: You just have to accept that Patrick Mahomes is in

1096
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: a class of his own and you can't compare to him.

1097
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: You can't say, well, he's never gonna be like Patrick. Yes,

1098
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: just forget that, because if you go in with that mentality,

1099
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: then you're right, you're not even gonna try. So you

1100
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: have to just forget about Patrick Mahomes and think about

1101
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: the other you know, thirty one teams and how you

1102
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: can compete against them, and then worry about Mahomes one.

1103
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: Two, three, or four times however time you see him

1104
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: in a season. But you can't go into it thinking

1105
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: like that.

1106
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: But you also, at some point, if you finally believe

1107
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: he is your guy, have to make some kind of

1108
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: financial commitment. Now you say, well, the cap keeps going up. Yeah,

1109
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: but as the cap goes up, so do the salaries

1110
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks. I mean, now realistically we're getting into

1111
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: the sixty million dollar a year range.

1112
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1113
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: No, that's sounds with quarterbacks.

1114
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: That sounds I'm gonna throw up.

1115
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I've read Dak Prescott is going to be

1116
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 3: close to maybe requesting that from the cowboy.

1117
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: Let's slow down a little bit. You mean the Dak

1118
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: Prescott that you know what in his pants in that

1119
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: game against the Green Bay Packers.

1120
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1121
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: And I think this is a perfect example of what

1122
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: you're talking about, Like, what do you do? What does

1123
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones do with Dak Prescott? I think this is

1124
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: a perfect example of that.

1125
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: Well. I think with certain quarterbacks we're seeing a repeat

1126
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: of itself over and over again. In other words, you

1127
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: could take a look at Joe Burrow and say, we

1128
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: know he's capable of getting there. The problem is can

1129
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: he stay healthy, right, because now he's had a couple

1130
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: of seasons that have been shortchanged due to injury. Then

1131
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: you have the likes of a Lamar Jackson or a

1132
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott or even to some degree guy like Josh

1133
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: Allen right where You're like, are they actually capable of

1134
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: pushing through and getting to where we want to be?

1135
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: In the case of all three of those quarterbacks, they

1136
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: need to push through just to get to the Super Bowl,

1137
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: much less win a Super Bowl.

1138
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it's unfortunate, But it seems like

1139
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: you just said Patrick Mahomes is in a class of

1140
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: his own, and then there's like a next tier of

1141
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and I think those are the that sterei you're

1142
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: talking about. And so I think, like, as an owner,

1143
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: you do have to pay Dak Prescott.

1144
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: Is your franchise quarterback? Is you've put this mess?

1145
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: There's a difference between a franchise quarterback and a championship quarterback.

1146
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: H But how many championship quarterbacks are there? Really?

1147
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, all right, Well one championship quarterback, a guy

1148
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: that actually has multiple Super Bowls on his resume and

1149
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl win is Russell Wilson.

1150
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: Yiz.

1151
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: So the Denver Broncos went all in, yeah, all in

1152
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson, and their failure the first year was

1153
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: tied to an inexperienced coach, Nathaniel Hackett, who proved without

1154
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: a shadow of the doubt. He's not head coaching material.

1155
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: He just was a disaster from day one and it

1156
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: proved out so at the end of the year like,

1157
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: all right, how much was that on the coach and

1158
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: how much was that on Russell Wilson. And my answer

1159
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: to that was, I want to see Russell Wilson with

1160
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: a different coach. So then you bring in a coach

1161
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: that had the pedigree in Sean Payton, and after a

1162
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: disastrous start, by the end of the year the Broncos

1163
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: were more than respectable. Still, I ended up with a

1164
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: losing record, but more than respectable. And it was a

1165
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: better showing by Russell Wilson than when we saw the

1166
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: year before.

1167
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: You saw the change, you saw progression, you saw everything

1168
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: you'd want to see.

1169
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: But the Broncos saw enough to say no, you're no

1170
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: our quarterback.

1171
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yet they haven't said that totally.

1172
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: Like, I know they benched him, but yet he's still

1173
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: there and it seems like they want to restructure his contract.

1174
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 3: So it's like you said that, but yet you don't

1175
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: want to.

1176
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: Let him go.

1177
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: Well at the same time, though, you want to unload

1178
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: him off the books, sure, which is not an easy

1179
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: task because he's got a lot of guaranteed money in

1180
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: that contract, which brings us to a team that obviously

1181
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: is trying to evaluate their quarterback position. And again when

1182
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: I talk about look bad, teams are always looking for

1183
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks right to you know, find that cornerstone piece. But

1184
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: what if you're a team that checks all the boxes

1185
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: except quarterback And one of those teams would be the

1186
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. They have talent at the skill positions. Obviously,

1187
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: they have a premier defense, and they have a coach

1188
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: that has never had a losing season, so that, you know,

1189
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: Plus it's an organization that knows how to win.

1190
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: Right, There's already a culture there.

1191
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: So then the question is this, are you willing to

1192
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: take on a Russell Wilson type contract feeling like he's

1193
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: the missing piece? And by the way, you have to

1194
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: also understand your commitment to Mike Tomlin and what does

1195
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: a Mike Tomlin pairing with Russell Wilson look like.

1196
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 3: It's a lot to unfold here, right If Mike Tomlin

1197
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: and the Steelers believe that Russell Wilson can actually come

1198
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 3: in and deliver in a way that Mason Rudolph cannot

1199
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: and Kenny Pick it cannot then yes, you pull the

1200
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 3: trigger and you take that money and you pay him.

1201
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: But you have to believe that he can actually do this.

1202
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 3: Can he Does he fit into a Pittsburgh Steeler culture?

1203
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: That's the question, And I, to be honest with you,

1204
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can picture Russell Wilson in

1205
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: a Pittsburgh Steeler uniform. To be honest with you, I

1206
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 3: feel like there's better, a better fit out there for him,

1207
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: and it's not the Steelers. But if the Steelers believe it,

1208
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 3: then yes, you pull the trigger.

1209
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: Well, on the other side, I want to get a

1210
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: little bit into what's facing that team and what maybe

1211
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: some viable options for them. It's tough because, again, Russell

1212
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: Wilson at his best, I'd be still capable playing at

1213
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: that level. And I think we saw certain times last

1214
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: year where the Russell Wilson we saw Seattle still had it.

1215
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: But does it fit the Steelers? All right? But first

1216
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: let's find out what is trending right now as beef

1217
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: and time is flying along. Hair, I just didn't we

1218
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: just speak to you. You can't get enough of me,

1219
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: You can't get enough of me? Can you explain your

1220
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: dynamic with Jonas to us, So, Jonas and I are

1221
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: like step brothers the movie. Yeah, oh good.

1222
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, So just paint that as a visual, okay, because

1223
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 9: when he and I discuss stuff on the radio, you

1224
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 9: never know where the conversation is going, but it's probably

1225
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 9: going in a ditch.

1226
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: Well it is, and you you take some mighty shots

1227
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: at each other, try to really one up each other.

1228
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 9: It's all out of love, though, yeah, which is a

1229
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 9: dynamic that maybe those from the outside wouldn't see.

1230
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's what they said when Travis Kelcey bumped into

1231
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: his coach during the Super Bowl, and you know, Jason

1232
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey called out his brother on their podcast about it,

1233
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: but also concede to the fact that they can do

1234
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: that because they love each other, which, by the way,

1235
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: signed an alarm to the Taylor Swift fan saying, well,

1236
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: if he only behaves like that around those that he loves, huh. Yeah, yeah,

1237
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't know we're comfortable.

1238
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 5: With that idea.

1239
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 9: No, Well, Jonas and I, like, he can call me

1240
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 9: a scumbag and I'll think that he's saying he likes me,

1241
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 9: and in that same conversation will go from that to

1242
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 9: him joking about duct taping his two year old to

1243
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 9: him while he's doing the show, and the two year

1244
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 9: old sitting in his lap for the Jonas n show,

1245
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 9: And it's entirety right.

1246
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: And you you made that proclamation. He denied it, but

1247
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where the truth is.

1248
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 9: I heard a kid screaming during the show at one point,

1249
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 9: so I'm assuming it's his.

1250
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: Does that child have any alternatives other than sitting on

1251
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: his dad's lap when he's doing a radio show. When

1252
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: you listen to your dad talk for two hours straight,

1253
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: it would make any sane kid scream, Well, my son

1254
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: still sit in my lap. And they're in their twenty

1255
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: seven and twenty five just to hear their dad talk,

1256
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: it must be soothing for them. No, it's not.

1257
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 9: Do they ever get a chance to talk because you

1258
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 9: say it's a conversation, but that means that both sides

1259
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 9: are going to have to open their mouth and say something.

1260
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: There is a reason I got divorced.

1261
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Steve is like the owner, you know, like an

1262
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 3: NFL owner.

1263
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,959
Speaker 2: He's paying his kids, He gives his kids money.

1264
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: That's why I did sit on his lap, exactly on

1265
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: the bank is what I think.

1266
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 9: Well, when the radio career and it's it's living well

1267
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 9: right now. But you could always apply to be a

1268
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 9: mall Santa during Christmas.

1269
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: I like that.

1270
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman is a mall Santa. I would love that.

1271
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: I would just stuff cash in the kids pocket money

1272
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: talk really go with the cash every time, kids. I

1273
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: love it.

1274
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 4: I love it.

1275
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a little stupid presence. Yeah, Dan, I've been

1276
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: the garbage eventually anyway, Yes, yeah, well look forward to that.

1277
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: Good money.

1278
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, money is good. Please money, money. And I know

1279
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 9: there's a bunch of songs about money, but I'll tell

1280
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 9: you what. The money that might be coming from a

1281
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 9: fine directed at Wake Forest and their basketball program might

1282
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 9: be pretty hefty considering what happened in college basketball today

1283
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 9: where they allowed court storming to happen against number eight Duke.

1284
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 9: The Demon Deacons won eighty three to seventy nine. Outside

1285
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 9: of the upset hundreds of students then after the game

1286
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 9: went on to the court, and one of the byproducts

1287
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 9: of that was the Duke's standout Kyle Philipowski, got seemingly

1288
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 9: injured as students were colliding into him as they were

1289
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 9: rushing the floor. He had guys on his team helping

1290
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 9: him walk off the floor into the tunnel, and Duke's

1291
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 9: head coach John Shire said that it was a sprain

1292
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 9: caused a sprain in the knee caused by the court storming.

1293
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 9: So after the game, Shire goes on his soapbox and

1294
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 9: he could be driving the bus or more so, he

1295
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 9: is in controls of the end court storming bandwagon because

1296
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 9: he said, quote, I'm more concerned about the well being

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Speaker 9: of our guys. When are we going to ban court stormings?

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Speaker 9: How many times does this need to happen?

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Speaker 1: Close? Quote Oh, I'm in again. His predecessor, the legend

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Speaker 1: coach K, said that's on many of occasions. Look, he goes,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with everyone storming the court,

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Speaker 1: but let us get off the court first. Then he

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Speaker 1: can storm the court, if that makes sense. I'm surprised, honestly,

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Speaker 1: with all the noise Coach K made over the years

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Speaker 1: that there already wasn't a rule in place in the

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Speaker 1: ACC about this. How do you do that? People have security?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you find the school if the students don't listen.

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Speaker 9: Well, just a couple of days ago, LSU, their basketball

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Speaker 9: program got fined one hundred thousand dollars for when they

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Speaker 9: storm the court after beating Kentucky, and Kentucky is ranked

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Speaker 9: number seventeen in the country. And speaking of Kentucky, right now,

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Speaker 9: they are hosting number thirteen Alabama. It's sixty nine to

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Speaker 9: fifty four in the Wildcats favor. They have about fifteen

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Speaker 9: minutes or so left in the second half. Elsewhere in

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Speaker 9: college basketball, number four Arizona with a ninety one to

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Speaker 9: seventy five win against Washington I went for Number twenty

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Speaker 9: four Florida to seventy seven to sixty four against Vanderbilt

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Speaker 9: on number six Io with State taking care of West

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Speaker 9: Virginia seventy one to sixty four. The West Virginia Mountaineers

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Speaker 9: are now nine and eighteen overall. How about the overtime

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Speaker 9: win for Kevin Sampson and number to Houston eighty two

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Speaker 9: to seventy six against number eleven Baylor, a six point

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Speaker 9: win Kelvin Sampson, excuse me, eighty two to seventy six

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Speaker 9: to final there. And then one other game that is

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Speaker 9: going on right now of notable importance is number ten

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Speaker 9: North Carolina forty to twenty nine, and they are leading

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Speaker 9: Virginia about ten minutes or so to go in the

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Speaker 9: second half, Monsey and Steve as they get it back

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Speaker 9: to you. Virginia. We know that they're a low scoring team,

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Speaker 9: but to put up twenty nine points thirty minutes into

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Speaker 9: a ballgame, what is going on over there?

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Speaker 1: My goodness. Yeah, they need some help with that offense.

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Speaker 1: And the worst way, by the way, we're just watching

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Speaker 1: that video BeFAN again of the storming of the court.

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Speaker 1: That's completely irresponsible.

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Speaker 2: Five seconds after the buzzer, like you don't have a

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Speaker 2: jury at all, You didn't have a chance to get

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Speaker 2: off the court.

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Speaker 1: I have been I attended one time a San Diego

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Speaker 1: State game against Nevada. This was years ago. Nevada was

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Speaker 1: ranked in the top ten and San Diego State won

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Speaker 1: the game, so they upset them. Obviously, it was a

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Speaker 1: full you know at Vajas out there, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Aztecs fans are ready to storm the court, and they

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Speaker 1: had security on the court. It was clear they had

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Speaker 1: security because they prevented the fans. But the student section

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Speaker 1: is always at the end of the court, so they'd

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Speaker 1: have easy access. But the Wolfpack players were off the court,

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Speaker 1: and then even then they limited how many fans were

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Speaker 1: actually allowed on the court, So you said, this is

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Speaker 1: completely irresponsible, because not only are you endangering the Duke players,

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Speaker 1: you're endangering the fans. You could have a stampede. One

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Speaker 1: person falls and they could get stampeded, So Sady would

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Speaker 1: see lawsuits up the ying Yang.

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Speaker 9: Well, essentially, what you're gonna have to do, Steven montse

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Speaker 9: is then you would have all these security guys just

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Speaker 9: holding hands, because how else do you try to avoid

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Speaker 9: full The thing about it is the emotion it's coming in,

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Speaker 9: it's unbridled. How do you get those students within that

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Speaker 9: pure called self control? But do you expect college students

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Speaker 9: to have self control? Yeah, if they're told not to

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Speaker 9: do it, what it means if they've had a couple of,

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Speaker 9: you know, adult beverages, it's harder for them to cooperate.

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Speaker 9: Even more then, aren't college students allowed to drink adult

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Speaker 9: beverages at college games?

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Speaker 2: I think if.

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Speaker 3: They're twenty one, yes, you know there's that element to

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Speaker 3: it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not gonna listen all right anyway. But I

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Speaker 1: mean that's again, it's not just a danger to the

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Speaker 1: duke players, it's a danger of the students themselves. You

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Speaker 1: have a massive people, one person falls down, they literally

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Speaker 1: get stampeded. Happens all that. We hear these horror stories

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Speaker 1: at these concerts, and you know, people multiple deaths, soccers, matches,

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Speaker 1: fans stampeded. Come on, I mean, you can't do that.

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Speaker 1: So I hope they they throw the book at Wake Forest.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't blame the Wake Forest coach or

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Speaker 1: the players for this. Is on the school. There's just

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Speaker 1: no excuse for this.

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Speaker 3: This also just happened with Kitlyn Clark, right, m m. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: with Iowa, this just happened. And not that she she

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Speaker 3: didn't need help getting off the court like that.

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Speaker 2: We just saw the video. He looked like he was

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Speaker 2: in pain.

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Speaker 1: He no, he was heard off. Hopefully it's not a

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Speaker 1: serious injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like he was probably needing the knee.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so what what Coach Schier said that it was

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Speaker 9: a knee sprain. And to Wake Forest's defense, they even

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Speaker 9: won a big game in two decades.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a good defense.

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Speaker 9: No, that's not a good So they're not used to

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Speaker 9: having big games and big wins and.

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Speaker 1: Send the Tim Duncans of the world.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that was bad.

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Speaker 1: That was bad. All right. Once again, we're broadcasting Life

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Speaker 1: from the tire rack dot Com studious. Uh, we're carrying

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Speaker 1: our conversation about the Steeler team, Yeah, and their their

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Speaker 1: search for a quarterback. So I can but what is

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Speaker 1: a team like the Steelers? What are they looking for

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Speaker 1: in a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: You know, when I think of Steelers, I think of grit.

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Speaker 3: I think of okay, toughness, I think of you know,

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01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: not that Russell Wilson isn't tough, but like, I don't

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Speaker 3: think grit and think Russell Wilson in the same he's.

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Speaker 1: A bit of a prima donna.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, And so it's almost like I

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Speaker 3: don't even think they need like a like a star quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They just need somebody that can get the ball to

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Speaker 3: their weapons in a consistent way.

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Speaker 1: I believe, and this is a guy that the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: It's none of this is coming out of their mouths, no,

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Speaker 1: but I believe Justin Fields. I've got to believe whatever

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Speaker 1: team is going to get Justin Fields is going to

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Speaker 1: get a talented quarterback with a huge chip on his shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I'm glad you brought him up because

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Speaker 3: that's what I keep hearing.

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Speaker 2: If the Steelers get him.

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Speaker 3: Man, are they gonna be good if Atlanta gets him

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Speaker 3: with Bejon, with Drake London all of that. So then

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Speaker 3: in my head, I'm like, so, why would the why

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Speaker 3: did the Bears get rid of him? If some teams

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Speaker 3: can actually thrive with him? Why are the Bears gonna

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Speaker 3: get rid of him so quickly? So I just it

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Speaker 3: just makes me wonder. But I agree Justin Field's great,

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Speaker 3: But they also then have to play the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the handoff from Ben Roethlisberger to Kenny

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: Pickt was seemingly seemless because they were the same team.

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Speaker 1: They were like a nine and eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Ben Roethlisberger didn't that guy play on like

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Speaker 3: a broken ankle like.

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Speaker 2: Did he did?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: Ben was, yeah, a person and fight toughness some him is.

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Speaker 1: The last five years of his career, he just didn't move,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just could move anymore, and the arm began

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Speaker 1: to die on him, and they still were able to

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Speaker 1: win more games than they lost with the idea that well,

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Speaker 1: we're still trying to figure out the Kenny Pickett come on.

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Speaker 3: So Yeah, and Mason Rudolph apparently, like a lot of

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Speaker 3: the players, like Deontay Johnson, they like Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 1: That's because he able to get the ball to them.

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Speaker 1: I just seem like Kenny Pickett was at the mindset,

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Speaker 1: my job is to not make any mistakes.

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Speaker 2: He fell flat.

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Speaker 1: He only threw four interceptions during the season. Well heck,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if that's all you're requiring to be your quarterback,

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01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: why are you paying anybody if you want it? And

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01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: and there are people Mike look at Mike Tomlin has

1451
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: already punched his ticket to the Hall of Fame. But

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01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: if you're a Steelers fan, you're like, when is the

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01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: last time we were actually a serious Super Bowl contender?

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01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: It's been a decade. And this is a franchise that

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01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: has won six Super Bowls in their history. So yeah,

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01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: that's their bar. You can't convince me that Kenny Picket,

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Speaker 1: by not throwing interceptions, is a quarterback that's going to

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Speaker 1: take you to the promised Lamp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Watching Canny Pickett this season, he looked flat most of

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Speaker 3: the games and it was almost like, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's more you can give. I

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Speaker 3: think that is who he is, Right, is Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 3: The answer of either, But it seemed like you said,

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Speaker 3: they haven't mentioned getting Russell Wilson or Russell Wilson or

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Speaker 3: justin Fields. That hasn't been the talk of the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: The talk of the Steelers right now is we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have two quarterbacks competing for the spot, and the two

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks are Mason Rudolph Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of Steeler fans out there.

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Speaker 2: They're everywhere, they are everywhere.

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Speaker 1: You can't be happy with this mediocrity. No, you say, wow,

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Speaker 1: we haven't had any losing seasons. Yeah, but you haven't

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Speaker 1: won eight championships.

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Speaker 2: Right in a long time.

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Speaker 1: That was the two thousand and eight season, the last

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Speaker 1: time the Steelers won the championship. Two thousand and eight season. Yeah. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: That was a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: And what's missing? Quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Quarterback?

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01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: All right? Coming up on the other side, what other

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01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 1: teams right now seemingly are unaware that they're in need

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Speaker 1: of a quarterback change. We'll give them a real dose

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Speaker 1: of reality. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvey, Montsey

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Speaker 1: Belanos here, Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from the tiraq

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Speaker 1: dot Com studio. So someone has to say it right,

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01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: there are teams in the NFL that think they are

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Speaker 1: blessed with a franchise quarterback when reality their quarterback is

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Speaker 1: the furthest thing from being a franchise quarterback. So give

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Speaker 1: me give me a team out there, Manci that you

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: say needs a reality check in terms of security at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: The New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: So I at the top of the list right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, New York Giants. And you know, we were just

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Speaker 2: talking about Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: He I think he's going to stay in Minnesota, but

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Speaker 3: I feel like Kirk Cousins in the Giants uniform would

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Speaker 3: work well.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's coming off an.

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Speaker 2: Achilles and that's a big yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's no more devastating injury in sports and achilles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But listen, maybe he's hanging out with Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 3: they're drinking tea.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that brings my number one choice. That would be

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01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: the Jets. If the Jets think that right now they

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Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback in Aaron Rodgers, they're in delusionville.

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Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Rodgers last year in Green Bay was

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01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: not good. Who played better Jordan Love this year or

1512
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the year before in Green Bay. It's not

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: even close.

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01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, especially the way Jordan Love ended.

1515
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his first game last year, Jordan Love was

1516
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: good in his very first game as a starter. Then

1517
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 3: he had a couple of bad games, and then he

1518
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 3: ended on like a high streak.

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 2: Looks so good.

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01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: You could easily make an argument of any team that

1521
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: actually changed quarterbacks from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three,

1522
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: no team had a bigger upgrade than the Green Bay

1523
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: Packers ridding themselves of Aaron Rodgers in favor of Jordan Love.

1524
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now.

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01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: On top of that, Aaron Rodgers had a blown achilles

1526
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: to have to set out an entire season. You have

1527
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: the same loser coach in Salah, the same hack offensive

1528
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: coordinator and hack it and the reason they still have

1529
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,560
Speaker 1: jobs is that Aaron Rodgers feels comfortable with those two guys.

1530
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got power.

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01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: So the idea that while the Jets now finally are

1532
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: blessed with that franchise quarterback and forty year old Aaron

1533
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers is it is kind.

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01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 3: Of crazy right that they think that, especially because again

1535
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 3: you just said devastating injury, his age, and we know

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01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 3: that their O line is and so you need somebody

1537
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: to protect him if he's going to execute the ball,

1538
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 3: as we've seen Aaron Rodgers do in his previous years

1539
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 3: when he was younger and hadn't blown his achilles. So

1540
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: you would think that like they would see that. But no,

1541
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 3: they're going forward and onward with Aaron Rodgers.

1542
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: There are so many teams, right, there's so many. I'm looking.

1543
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: I just look at the order of the NFL draft, right, Yeah,

1544
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: So obviously the Bears will have a huge bearing on

1545
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: the direction of this draftle let's assume for a second

1546
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: year that they decide that Justin Fields is not the

1547
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: guy and they take Caleb Williams. So we know about

1548
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 1: Drake May, we know about Bo Nicks, we got Michael

1549
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: Pennix Junior, we have Jayden Daniels, and we have JJ McCarthy. Right,

1550
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: those are sort of the six quarterbacks all projected to

1551
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: be put potential first round picks in the NFL. Then

1552
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: you go down the list. Commanders, they need a quarterback.

1553
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 1: Sam Hall is not the answer, and they have a

1554
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 1: new coach, so they're going to go new quarterback. Patriots,

1555
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: Amants need a quarterback.

1556
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:13,759
Speaker 2: They need a quarterback.

1557
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: They need a quarterback. Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray's better than

1558
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: anyone they're going to get in this draft.

1559
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, agreed, very well set up for Marvin Harrison Junior,

1560
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 10: and I'm scared of that thought with Murray, with Murray,

1561
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 10: with Marvin Harrison, I'm a big.

1562
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: Believer in Kyler Murray if they can just get their

1563
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: house in order so that he can get back to

1564
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: what he looked like first couple of years in the league.

1565
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: Chargers have their quarterback, and then you just go down

1566
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 1: the list, Giants, Titans, Falcons. Then the Bears have another

1567
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:55,839
Speaker 1: pick which could be part of a package deal somewhere. Jets, Vikings, Broncos, Raiders, Saints,

1568
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: all of them. Derek Carr said, as your franchise quarterback.

1569
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: Shouldn't I mean it?

1570
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: Delictius goes on and on. That's the problem, though, when

1571
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 1: you have a Patrick Maholmes, everyone wants one of those guys.

1572
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 1: We continue to roll on. This is Fox Sports Saturday,

1573
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,120
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1574
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,200
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Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan, our NFL insider is going to be joining us,

1581
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: coming up here in the next fifteen minutes or so. Also,

1582
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: I want to thank Jonas Knox, oh, yes, who brought

1583
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,799
Speaker 1: pizza in for everybody this morning.

1584
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 2: He sent pizza, He's sent.

1585
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's well. As we heard earlier from Beefin, he

1586
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: wants to sit at home with his child strapped to

1587
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: his leg while he is doing the broadcast from the

1588
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: comfort of his own home.

1589
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 2: He is here though Monday through Friday.

1590
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 3: Every single day from three am to six am, he's here,

1591
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 3: So I get why on Saturdays, you know, he decides

1592
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: to do it from home with his child. But he

1593
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 3: did send us pizza and I am enjoying this pizza.

1594
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: Well, it is one I can't mention the name of

1595
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: the place because you know, we can't do that kind

1596
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: of stuff, but it is what we call as good

1597
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: of authentic New York style pizza. As you're going to

1598
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: get anywhere in SOCl It is just down the street. Yeah,

1599
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: and it's just down the street so lovely. Yes, absolutely,

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: And slices are.

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01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: Giant, giant, giant.

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01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the way pizza should be. You

1603
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: want the big slice. You know that you got a

1604
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: sort of fold? Oh yes or no? Now you okay?

1605
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: Is this pizza? Yeah?

1606
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: So I remember when I met my wife Denise. The

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01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: first thing that to me is sort of important on

1608
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: meeting somebody is how do you take on pizza? Sure,

1609
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: because everybody loves pizza. Pizza is going to become a

1610
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: factor now, especially when we had young kids. Pizza was

1611
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: a big part of our diet. Not necessarily the healthiest,

1612
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: but you know it is.

1613
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: It's not terrible.

1614
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: But I was very curious because we would order pizza,

1615
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 1: I just say a pepperoni pizza, and immediately she would

1616
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: start picking things off the pizza. Like I'm like, I'd

1617
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 1: be watching, like, what are you doing?

1618
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: Does she eat the toppings first?

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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: Well? Sometimes she would actually put them back off, okay,

1620
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: but I mean she would be like operating on the

1621
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: slice of pizza. Now I'm sort of observing something similar

1622
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: to you, where you've sort of torn off. Now, I

1623
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: understand that everybody eats the crust. You know, a lot

1624
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: of people just eat everything but the crust. I'm a

1625
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: guy that eats a whole everything.

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01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 3: Mean too, If I don't eat the crust, you're supposed

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01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:01,480
Speaker 3: to be absolutely horrendous.

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01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: But you are dissecting this pizza.

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01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and so I usually my my way to eating

1630
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 3: pizza is I start normal with you know, the not

1631
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: the crust the other end, and I take a few bites.

1632
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 3: But then I go to the crust, and I start

1633
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: eating the crust, and I'll finish the crust before I

1634
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: finish the rest of the pizza.

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01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: Now, you fan of like those crusts where they have

1636
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: like the pretzel style crust or or they load the

1637
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: crust with cheese.

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01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 2: I need it.

1639
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: I don't, But like if you were to give me,

1640
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 3: you know, a stuffed crust pizza of some sort, I

1641
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: would eat it. I do like a little bit of

1642
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 3: like garlic seasoning on my crust.

1643
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: That I that I do like you know that I'm

1644
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 2: a sucker for that? Would you like to add gard? Yes?

1645
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I just paint it with that exactly.

1646
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 3: Oh, that I'm a sucker for I'll pay whatever you

1647
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 3: want me to pay for that. But other than that,

1648
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 3: you know, I like crust, but yeah, I eat. I

1649
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 3: end up eating the crust before I end up finishing

1650
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 3: this slice of pain.

1651
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Right, well, I'm gonna watch you dissect this.

1652
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: I want this is perfect.

1653
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,480
Speaker 1: I want to I want to bring up something completely

1654
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: off subject. But it was a story that caught my

1655
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 1: eye this week, and I was trying to think about

1656
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: exactly how I felt about this story, and that has

1657
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: to do with the fifteen year old son of Tiger Woods,

1658
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: Charlie Woods. So I heard it was a big story

1659
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: that Charlie Woods, his fifteen year old son, was going

1660
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: to go to a pre qualifier to then qualify for

1661
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: a qualifier to actually play an actual PGA tournament.

1662
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: Yes, so the first one, there was four pre qualifier events,

1663
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 3: twenty five of them went to the next one, which

1664
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 3: was I think it's tomorrow.

1665
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 1: And then out of that maybe four actually get to

1666
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: play in the actual tournament. Exactly, so Charlie Woods, and

1667
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: I was anxious to see how he did because I

1668
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: have been following his story and here's the reality for

1669
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Charlie Woods at this point of his golf career. And

1670
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: again he's fifteen. One is that he hasn't been completely

1671
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: married to the game of golf. In other words, he's

1672
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: like most thirteen fourteen, fifteen year olds, and that he

1673
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: likes to play a lot of different sports as well.

1674
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: He should at that age, but he's been focusing in

1675
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 1: on his golf in the state of Florida, where he lives.

1676
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: Amongst junior golfers in his age group, he is the

1677
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: eightieth junior rank golfer in Florida. Now understand this, his

1678
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:39,879
Speaker 1: father won the us GA Junior Championship three straight years

1679
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 1: before he then won the us Amateur Championship three straight years.

1680
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, so.

1681
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 2: It's not the same.

1682
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: It's not the same, and so it is. I feel

1683
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for Charlie because the only reason

1684
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 1: that he was even a forded an opportunity and you

1685
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: have to pay a fee to pay play in this

1686
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: qualify pre qualifier, But the only reason anyone would have

1687
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: any interest in his game is that he is the

1688
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: son of Tiger Woods. So he goes out and you know,

1689
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: I think after four or five holes he was like

1690
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 1: four over par, and then he puts up a twelve

1691
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: on a par four hole, So he ends up shooting

1692
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: an eighty six, which was sixteen over par. I mean,

1693
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: the best round in that pre qualifier guy shot sixty five.

1694
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: There were one hundred and ten golfers that turned into

1695
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: card or thinking there was one hundred and twelve golfers

1696
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,520
Speaker 1: that turn into card, and he finished one hundred and tenth.

1697
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: And so social media was a mix of, hey, let's

1698
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 1: be fair because he's a fifteen year old, and then

1699
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: there are others that's saying like, if I were this kid,

1700
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: I would just choose a different path because it doesn't

1701
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 1: matter what he does, it'll always be in comparison to

1702
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: arguably the greatest golfer of all time. Now this is

1703
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: and I think when I've heard interviews with Tiger about

1704
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: his son, I think he's handling it the right way.

1705
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: He wants to give him space. He wasn't there following

1706
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 1: him around. If he wants to play golf, that's his choice,

1707
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much where Tiger stands, and as a parent,

1708
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: I think that's fine. He's also trying to, though, give

1709
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: him warning of what comes with celebrity, even before it's

1710
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: actually earned, like he's a celebrity because obviously he's Tiger

1711
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: Wood's son. I would say at the end of the round,

1712
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: his reaction of the shooting in a six was, well,

1713
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: that was quite a round. So he seems to have

1714
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: a good humor about it. But I don't know, it's tough.

1715
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if he wants to go down this path, fine,

1716
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: but inevitably it doesn't matter what he does. When you're

1717
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 1: the son at Tiger Woods, there are people who have

1718
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: expectations that a sport that has been so reliant on

1719
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 1: one person to take any awareness of the world of

1720
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: golf to that next level. Those people are desperate for

1721
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: the next Tiger to come. And here's his son. That's

1722
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 1: just brutal, and he's fifteen years old.

1723
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: It is brutal.

1724
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 3: It's crazy also that here we are talking about Tiger

1725
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 3: and his son, Charlie, when there's also Lebron James and

1726
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 3: Bronni James on the basketball end, right, both situations where

1727
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 3: their father is the greatest you know to ever play

1728
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: the sport and you can never fill the shoes of

1729
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 3: your father.

1730
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: And the same thing.

1731
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: Lebron James the face of the NBA, Tiger Woods the

1732
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 3: face of golf. But I do think that Tiger Woods

1733
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 3: seems to be handling it a little bit differently than

1734
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 3: Lebron not pushing this narrative of I want to play

1735
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 3: with my son in a major event, like he's not

1736
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 3: doing that. So I like that I didn't know he

1737
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 3: wasn't there. I love that he wasn't there. That is

1738
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 3: amazing And it makes me wonder, what if Charlie Woods.

1739
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 3: It's too late now, but what if like a couple

1740
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: of years ago, he changed his last name and started

1741
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 3: playing golf and went out there, because you know.

1742
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: People, that would be worse, you think, so cause people

1743
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 1: already know who he is.

1744
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known who he like. I don't I

1745
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 3: know what he looks like now, but I wouldn't have

1746
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 3: known what he looked like.

1747
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 4: You know.

1748
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 2: I feel like if they did it early.

1749
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: But I mean, what kind of scrutiny? I mean, people

1750
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: would know.

1751
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: But I'm not saying lie that, but just change. It's

1752
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 2: just people see the name.

1753
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 3: It's kind of what you were just saying, like the

1754
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 3: Woods name. People see the name on a.

1755
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 2: Scoreboard and they're like, oh, he's a Woods. What if

1756
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 2: we know it's his son? But it doesn't.

1757
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 3: He doesn't go by Charlie Woods. He goes by something else,

1758
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 3: and maybe the attention is not as bad because it's

1759
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 3: just when you see woods associated with golf that you

1760
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 3: just expect greatness.

1761
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 2: Same thing with like Lebron.

1762
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: You know, we've had father's son. I always think of

1763
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: sports of superstar athletes whose fathers were really good at

1764
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: the same sport, but not to the level. In baseball,

1765
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: there's two players whose fathers were legit All star players,

1766
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 1: not Hall of famers, but legit all star players who

1767
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,839
Speaker 1: both became legendary players. One of them was Ken Griffy Junior,

1768
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: whose father, amazingly they got to not only play together,

1769
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: but as you know, actually hit back to back home runs.

1770
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 1: Father's son and his father was a legit All star

1771
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: level player, wasn't a Hall of Famer, but an All

1772
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Star player. And the other was Barry Bonds and his father,

1773
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Bons. Bobby Bonds, under different circumstances, could have been

1774
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame probably, that's how good Bobby Bonds was.

1775
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: But their sons were better players. Those are rare.

1776
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 2: They are rare. I mean Curry's father, Steph Curry's father.

1777
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Curry's father was another one was another one,

1778
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 3: and Steph Curry is better, But you're right, Typically it

1779
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 3: doesn't work out that way, right.

1780
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant stat Jellybean Bryant played in the NBA. Wasn't

1781
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: an All Star, but he was. You know, he's a

1782
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: decent player. But those are rare, they are.

1783
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 12: What about Vladimir Guerrero Jor and his father was a

1784
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:28,799
Speaker 12: legit Hall of Famer.

1785
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 1: But again that's the problem. And he carries the same name.

1786
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 2: The same name.

1787
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Look at Dale Earnhardt and Dale Earnhardt Junior. Yeah, Dale

1788
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: Earnhardt Junior is in the Hall of Fame, NASCAR Hall

1789
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 1: of Fame. He never was his father, no, no, never, Yeah,

1790
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: And so it's it's I mean, there's our advantages obviously

1791
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 1: when you carry that name. Because I always thought this

1792
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: about Dale Earnhardt Junior. Would he have had as much

1793
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: notoriety if he was Bob Earnhardt instead of being Dale

1794
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: Earnhardt Junior, especially after his father was killed? You know,

1795
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 1: his father gets killed at Daytona and all of a sudden,

1796
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 1: Dale Earnhardt Junior is still there. But what if he

1797
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: was Bill Earnhardt.

1798
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Like looking at it, it just looks it

1799
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 3: makes you think twice when you see a name like

1800
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 3: that and associated with greatness and in particular sport. Yeah,

1801
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 3: that's why I'm like, if maybe he should have started

1802
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 3: playing golf and just not been Charlie Woods.

1803
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: I just hope the best for him, that's all I

1804
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: hoped for her. But yeah, I was a rough day

1805
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: for him, and again I think his attitude was Wow,

1806
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 1: that was hell of brown. Yeah, so there was a

1807
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: little humor involved, but I wish him all right. Coming

1808
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: up on the other side, we're going to get back

1809
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: to some NFL talk. A man that breaks it down

1810
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: like no other, the ultimate insider, our Fox Sports Radio

1811
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: NFL insider Adam Kaplan, will join us. This is Fox

1812
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Montciblanos here on a beautiful Saturday.

1813
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Once again, we're coming live from the tai Iraq dot

1814
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Com studios. All right, we were definitely into a lot

1815
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: of NFL talking the last hour. Now let's set the

1816
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,799
Speaker 1: record straight. Joining us right now, he's our Fox Sports

1817
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan. So, Adam, I want to

1818
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,600
Speaker 1: get right to it, and I'm going to give you

1819
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: a very direct question. Who will be the starting quarterback

1820
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Steelers in twenty twenty four.

1821
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 13: Well, that guy might not be on the roster. So

1822
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 13: you want to know who it's going to be. I'm

1823
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 13: going to say Ryan Tannehill. How about that?

1824
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Wow, a name we didn't even talk about.

1825
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:32,759
Speaker 4: Think about the connection?

1826
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: Okay, So here when I look at the Steelers' job, Adam,

1827
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: it's twofold, Like you could you could make an argument

1828
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: like if you were to go out and make a

1829
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 1: deal to get justin Fields, you're getting a quarterback that

1830
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,879
Speaker 1: certainly has the potential to be a top notch quarterback

1831
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 1: in this league, who also, by the way, would have

1832
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: a major chip on his shoulder being abandoned by the

1833
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,759
Speaker 1: Bears to go to the Steelers. You have a Russell Wilson.

1834
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 1: But how would that diedynamic work with Mike Tomlin. So

1835
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 1: let's let's start right there, because you do have a

1836
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: coach who's been there a long time that has a

1837
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: very you know, he has a mindset on how he

1838
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: wants his quarterbacks to play. And I believe the Steeler

1839
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks combined only through nine interceptions this year, which is great.

1840
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: That may get you into the playoffs, but it's not

1841
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: going to win you a championship. So when you talk

1842
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 1: about a Ryan Tannehill. Let's get into that mindset of

1843
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,919
Speaker 1: a marriage between Ryan Tannehill and Mike Tomlin.

1844
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so a couple of things here.

1845
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 13: First of all, when Arthur Smith coached Ryan Tanneil, that

1846
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 13: that would be the interest because.

1847
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 4: He's going to run.

1848
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 13: Arthur Fisk is going to run his offense which is

1849
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 13: run based, which really would help because Mike Tomlin and ownership.

1850
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 13: In fact, I talked to Matt CANNAA about this last summer,

1851
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 13: their offensive coordinator. They wanted from the top it's to

1852
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 13: start with a run game. We could disagree, agree, whatever

1853
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 13: the case may be, doesn't matter. This is what they want.

1854
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 13: This has been mandated. And whoever the offense coordinator is

1855
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 13: in this case is Arthur Smith just happens to want

1856
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 13: to be a run first guy that's coming here with

1857
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 13: Najie Harris and Jalen Warren. So everything when meat, you're

1858
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 13: not going to ask Ryan Tannehill to throw the ball

1859
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 13: a lot at this stage in his mid thirties. And

1860
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 13: then there's a course of course, justin field. Who look

1861
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 13: he's and I'm being kind here, he's played very inconsistent football.

1862
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 13: You see the upside. The downside is bad. The inaccuracy

1863
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 13: is a major problem. I don't see it being a

1864
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 13: good fit. What Justin Fields needs is he needs to

1865
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 13: be with a quarterback developer, someone who's developed quarterbacks, who

1866
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,839
Speaker 13: knows how to manage them, that coaches hard. Hard coaching

1867
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 13: is what Justin Fields needs. He means he needs more discipline.

1868
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 13: Arthur Smith has never really developed a quarterback. He's not

1869
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 13: He couldn't do it in Atlanta. Tannehill had already been established.

1870
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 13: You could continued his career and that's fine. But the

1871
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 13: bottom line is Arthur Smith, to me, does not He

1872
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 13: just doesn't fit with just what Justin Fields needs. These Steelers,

1873
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 13: I know they have some interest in him, as I

1874
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 13: understand it, but they have interested in a lot of

1875
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 13: Ventan quarterbacks. I know by the way Mason Rudolph they

1876
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 13: want him back. Isn't interesting. Once Mason Rudolph was the

1877
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 13: starting quarterback, they started having daftfield pass a game that

1878
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 13: was kind of one of the interest developments when Kenny Pickett.

1879
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 13: After Kenny pick got hurt unfortunately, but their passing game

1880
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 13: took off downfield.

1881
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 3: Adam, we were also talking about the Giants that you know,

1882
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 3: I don't think Daniel Jones is the answer.

1883
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 2: The Giants do have the fifth overall pick.

1884
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 3: Do you think they take a quarterback or do you

1885
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 3: think they're going to just kind of ride it with

1886
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones and see what happens.

1887
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 13: No, I don't see them doing it with a quarterback.

1888
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,959
Speaker 13: And it's not a guarantee.

1889
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 4: Of course.

1890
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 13: They've got so many needs or offensive line. They've got

1891
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 13: one blue chip player at left tackle. Everything else's disaster.

1892
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 13: They've already missed her Ryan Neial. In fact, I feel

1893
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 13: who wanted being a guard. Who is the right tackle?

1894
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 13: He's played poorly the first two years. They don't have

1895
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 13: a number one receiver. They don't have They really don't

1896
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 13: have any playmakers on defense. They're just like two years

1897
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 13: ago they shocked the world, made the playoffs, they overachieved.

1898
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 13: They need help. Any pass strushers, playmakers, you name it.

1899
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 13: They need it. Like if Marvin Harrison Junior gets there

1900
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 13: the cart, they should turn the cart in within one second.

1901
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 13: I don't think we'll make it there because the Cardinals

1902
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 13: have to take them if he gets there. Cardinals, by

1903
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 13: the way, all but a quarterback. They need everything. So

1904
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 13: that's the thing. Look, you earn it if you're in

1905
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 13: the top ten. You most likely deserve to be there.

1906
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 13: You're probably not a very good football team.

1907
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: So the big story this week obviously was the new

1908
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 1: cap numbers for the NFL going through the stratosphere. I mean,

1909
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,799
Speaker 1: the number is just absolutely staggering, and I was mentioning

1910
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: AMONSI I went down a rabbit hole last night. I

1911
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 1: watched this documentary on the NFL in the nineteen fifties

1912
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 1: and Burt Bell and as the commissioner of the NFL,

1913
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: the kind of job he did to try to sort

1914
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: of bring the NFL into the national consciousness. And of

1915
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 1: course the famous overtime game between the Cold and the

1916
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Giants was a major step to take the NFL to

1917
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: the next level. But it also reminded me again the

1918
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: impact of money, not just in the NFL obviously, but

1919
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: sports in general, and trying to gauge in an individual

1920
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: player the impact that money has on their game. I mean,

1921
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: we could all sit here right now and know that

1922
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, if he wanted to, could walk into Clark

1923
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:34,839
Speaker 1: Hunt and say, look, I wanted my salary to double

1924
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 1: any other quarterback in this league. And the fact is

1925
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: he's earned that. He is he has what he did

1926
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 1: this year, in my opinion, I'm sure you share the

1927
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 1: same opinion, took him from the stratosphere to a next

1928
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: level stratus fhere if there is such a place. In fact,

1929
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: right now, to me, the only quarterback in the conversation

1930
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 1: now as the goat is Tom Brady. I now have

1931
01:39:55,880 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: a past Montana. Yeah, right, So he won't do that,

1932
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: and so we understand that like Tom Brady, who was

1933
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: never the highest paid quarterback in the league, and obviously

1934
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Malmes is not now, they do have that mindset that

1935
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Speaker 1: what matters to them is winning championship, and that's a

1936
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Speaker 1: dream for any organization, doesn't matter the sport. But with

1937
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: more money being poured into the player's pockets, how do

1938
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,480
Speaker 1: teams go about trying to figure out, especially with quarterbacks,

1939
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Speaker 1: if it's the right move, if putting more money in

1940
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Speaker 1: their pocket is actually going to translate into more wins.

1941
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Speaker 13: It's just it's more steve from talking to teams and agents.

1942
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Speaker 4: It's more of an intr of fairness.

1943
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Speaker 13: It has nothing to do really like Dak Prescott, right,

1944
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Speaker 13: my number is fifty seven to sixty million a year.

1945
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Speaker 13: When he gets this new deal done. They have to

1946
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Speaker 13: do it because they can't go forward with a salary

1947
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Speaker 13: cap number, so that they made a mistake like they

1948
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Speaker 13: normally do, of not understanding what's happening, and Jerry Jones

1949
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 13: waits and waits and waights than the agent can.

1950
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Speaker 4: It's leverage. In this case, Todd Francis agent did a

1951
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 4: great job.

1952
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Speaker 13: And they have him over a barrel and they know

1953
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Speaker 13: that that Dak's got to get paid. I mean, that's

1954
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 13: just the way it is. And they got to get

1955
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 13: a couple other deals done. Michael Parsons is a big one.

1956
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Speaker 13: Ceedee lamb. They're gonna have to get that done. So

1957
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Speaker 13: it's more to me, it's a more of an issue

1958
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Speaker 13: of fairness. Now we should note last year they did

1959
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Speaker 13: restructure his Mahomes' deal to give him more cash over

1960
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 13: a three year period for him to be in the

1961
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Speaker 13: top three of the highest paid quarterbacks. But you're right, honestly,

1962
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Speaker 13: he really should be getting paid seventy million a year.

1963
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,799
Speaker 4: That that would be my number for him. He should

1964
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 4: be so much higher than any other quarterback. But he won't.

1965
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Speaker 4: He won't do that.

1966
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Speaker 13: But to their point, by the way, the Chiefs, the

1967
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 13: Chiefs and Mahomes a side, they they talked privately a

1968
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 13: year ago and they said, look, this can't continue because

1969
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 13: where the escalating quarterback numbers are going. We got to

1970
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:54,799
Speaker 13: do something here, and they did that to their credit.

1971
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,839
Speaker 13: But you know, in the end, see when Dak Prescott,

1972
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 13: by the way, you talk about fairness and what's right,

1973
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 13: no offense at Dak Prescott. He had a very good

1974
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 13: year and you see what happened the playoffs not so good.

1975
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 13: He's not a top five quarterback, but he's going to

1976
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 13: be paid like one. That's the problem with it.

1977
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 3: So the ser Francesco forty nine ers have been pretty

1978
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 3: quiet with their defensive coordinator search.

1979
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Speaker 2: Any development there.

1980
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Speaker 13: Yeah, the two guys that I've heard, there's Daniel Bullocks,

1981
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 13: who's a former NFL safety who's one of the better

1982
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 13: defensive back coaches in the league. I know two teams

1983
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 13: have told me, had they not made the Super Bowl,

1984
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 13: the Niners, they probably were going to interview him. But

1985
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 13: these teams failed out their defensive coordinator job. And Daniel Sorenson,

1986
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 13: who's another former NFL safety who's very well respected. Those

1987
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 13: would be the in house candidates, and they're looking at

1988
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 13: some out, they're looking at some outside. I would expect

1989
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 13: this done with the next week. Remember, we've got the combine.

1990
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 13: By the way, I've seen coaches get hired where they

1991
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 13: fly to the combined interview with clubs. I've actually seen

1992
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 13: that in front of me, but happened before. It's kind

1993
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 13: of funny. So yeah, I expect that to happen. Boy,

1994
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 13: Steve Welkes, that's a tough one.

1995
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 4: That one.

1996
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Speaker 13: I understand why it happened because I know Kyle privately

1997
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 13: was a little critical of the way the defense was

1998
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 13: being run, and we should know, we should mention that

1999
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 13: the defense Welks is running was the one that he

2000
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 13: had not run before. Yet they still made the Super

2001
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 13: Bowl the time I forget.

2002
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, and played really well in the Super Bowl. Yeah,

2003
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean especially, I mean come on, I mean, you

2004
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: know they got a gift touchdown after the punt hit

2005
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 1: the foot, right, I mean that was sort of a

2006
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: take that away, and you know, I mean, I don't know,

2007
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: I mean it seemed unbelievable to me. All right, Want

2008
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 1: one other quick thing here as far as the evaluation

2009
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 1: of the coaching hires. Now we've had other chance to

2010
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: sort of you know, sit down, and obviously there's a

2011
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 1: lot of head before we get ready to start of

2012
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: the season. But who do you think made the most

2013
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,759
Speaker 1: impressive higher in terms of the new coach.

2014
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 13: I like Washington's hire if dan Quinn. They wanted Ben Johnson.

2015
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 13: In my reporting two months ago, I said, this is

2016
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 13: their guy. They want him. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

2017
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 13: As you know, at the last minute he backed out.

2018
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 13: I mean that that floored them. This was their guy

2019
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 13: and they didn't get them. Then dan Quinn, for whatever

2020
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 13: reason the previous three hiring cycles, didn't get a job

2021
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 13: when he was one of the top three candidates for

2022
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 13: many jobs. So really good hire. Now this team is

2023
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 13: at a total rebuild. They don't have their quarterback on

2024
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:21,719
Speaker 13: the roster. The future quarterback Sam how is a good story.

2025
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 13: He's a high high end back of low and starter.

2026
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 13: They're going to look to to get their quarterback in

2027
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 13: this draft. They're another team. Like if we had time here,

2028
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 13: I mean, if we went through the rosters of the

2029
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 13: of the like the top seven picks, go Wow, these

2030
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 13: teams are really bad. Yes, that's why they're there. Washington,

2031
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 13: another team has a really bad roster and they're in

2032
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 13: a rebuild. Here, let's call it like it is.

2033
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's we got so much coming up here,

2034
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 1: all right, Well, Adam, in the weeks they had, obviously

2035
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 1: we're going to break it down. We got free agency,

2036
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 1: we got the draft, we got all one hundred thousand

2037
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 1: things to talk to you about, and we always appreciate

2038
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: the time. Thanks for joining us, Adam.

2039
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 4: Thank you.

2040
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 1: That is Adam Kaplan our NFL inside right here at

2041
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Let's turn the page once again as

2042
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: we turn to a man that is holding down so

2043
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: many different jobs he has lost killed it really is.

2044
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley is the man we're talking about beef, and

2045
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 1: it rarely rarely seeks attention, no, for everything he has

2046
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 1: done in his very diversified broadcasting career.

2047
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 9: Now, I just think anybody can understand the hustle, right

2048
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 9: You're chasing something and sometimes you got to supplement one

2049
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 9: thing with another. I think we all understand that, Matt.

2050
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 9: Kudos to anybody who works a second shift, another job,

2051
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 9: something to help out the cause, something to feed the fan.

2052
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 9: So we do what we can, just trying to learn

2053
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 9: from you all, and it's always fun to be here

2054
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 9: with you all, Which is where we go now, college

2055
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 9: basketball taking center stage, of course, Steve and I will

2056
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 9: be watching intently later on tonight when UCLA and USC

2057
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 9: are going to be battling it out at seven o'clock

2058
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 9: at poly Pavilion. But if I lenin talked about that

2059
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,799
Speaker 9: in and Up yet, I guess I'd probably get fired.

2060
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 9: So that might be my last update by the way

2061
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 9: in doing so. But right now we do have number

2062
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 9: nine Kansas leading Texas twenty three to fifteen, one hundred

2063
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 9: nine minutes ago in the first half. Many other games

2064
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,640
Speaker 9: to get to, but the biggest story in college basketball

2065
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 9: has been Kyle Philipowski, the big man for the Dukies.

2066
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 9: The number eight Duke Blue Devil's loss to Lake Forest

2067
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 9: eighty three to seventy nine in Winston Salem, there was

2068
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 9: a court storming afterwards and Philipowski seemingly injuring his knee

2069
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,799
Speaker 9: spreading his knee that according to head coach John Shier,

2070
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 9: coming from the court storming or students ran into him.

2071
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 9: Philipowski had a chance to say a few things on

2072
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 9: the matter afterwards he took when he spoke to Channel

2073
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 9: two in North Carolina.

2074
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 14: You know, I've I felt a bunch of hits on

2075
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 14: my body. Lustorm was the worst of them. Like I said,

2076
01:46:55,439 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 14: it's just really ridiculous of how that sitsue based his

2077
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 14: hand of I've already heard that there's some videos of

2078
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 14: getting punched in the back, and so I absolutely feel

2079
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 14: like it was personal, you know, intentional.

2080
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 1: For intentional for sure. So that's I mean, we're talking

2081
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: assault charges, right, why would there not be So you

2082
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: have a student running onto the court hitting somebody purposely. Yeah,

2083
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the thought that's what we call assault charges.

2084
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 9: Well, and here's the thing. You think you can get

2085
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 9: away with it when you're around a mass conglomeration and

2086
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 9: that's a big word for me, but a mass conglomeration

2087
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 9: of people that you can get away with things like that.

2088
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 9: But we know there are cameras everywhere. Moncie and Steve

2089
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 9: so say, there's an NBA guy who's trying to take

2090
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 9: a shot below the belt on somebody thinking they can

2091
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 9: get away with it. You don't get away with anything

2092
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 9: these days, especially if it's on a playing surface.

2093
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: We have people, you know, rating stores and getting away

2094
01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: with it. It's not a big deal. Well that's a

2095
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: different story. That's different story.

2096
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 9: And yes, that is California anyway, and they're.

2097
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,799
Speaker 2: Still on video. The point is everything is on video.

2098
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, yes everything's on video, but I mean serious,

2099
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean and we just talked about, you know, crowd

2100
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 1: behavior and everything else. And no, there are certain things

2101
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 1: that you have to draw the line saying no, you

2102
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: can't do that just because you bought to take it

2103
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: to a sporting event.

2104
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's an entitlement that sometimes sports fans have and

2105
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 9: going to games, and then when you think about them

2106
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 9: being inebriated, that also might add to the entitlement factor.

2107
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 9: Number four Arizona might have some entitled fans, but for

2108
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 9: good reason, they keep winning ninety one to seventy five

2109
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 9: in college basketball.

2110
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 1: They get it done.

2111
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 9: The Wildcats over Washington number six I State seventy one

2112
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 9: to sixty four winners against West Virginia, number twenty five

2113
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 9: BYU goes down on the road eighty four to seventy

2114
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 9: four against Kansas State, Ole Miss losing at home in

2115
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 9: Oxford to number twenty South Carolina seventy two to fifty nine,

2116
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 9: a low scoring affair where number ten North Carolina seizes

2117
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 9: an opportunity to take out an acc fo fifty four

2118
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 9: to forty four against Virginia number seventeen Kentucky getting some

2119
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 9: redemption after they lost a couple of days ago at

2120
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 9: LSU with a one seventeen ninety five beat down of

2121
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 9: number thirteen Alabama. We also saw a win for number

2122
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 9: twelve Illinois ninety five to eighty five against Iowa, and

2123
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 9: lastly in overtime victory for number two Houston eighty two

2124
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 9: to seventy six against number eleven Baylor. Houston twenty four

2125
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 9: and three. They're eleven and three in conference play, and

2126
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,679
Speaker 9: as I get it back to you, Montsey and Steve,

2127
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 9: Houston has to be one of those teams. And I

2128
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 9: know we're going to have the Fox Sports Radio fill

2129
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 9: out the bracket NT play tournament. I would have to

2130
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 9: think that half of the people that are working in

2131
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 9: this building are going to have Houston winning at all.

2132
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: ROI again. And how many national championships Houston this one?

2133
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: They've had it, you know, when you think about Houston

2134
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 1: basketball going back to the Guy Lewis days early on

2135
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: with Elvin Hayes and then much later with the team

2136
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: of Lodge, when Clyde Drexler, you know, even recently, I

2137
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 1: mean they've had some you know, Final four runs, but yeah,

2138
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 1: they've never wont.

2139
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 9: To have you done like have you written a stat

2140
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 9: book on, say, Houston basketball in nineteen seventy eight, have

2141
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 9: you done that?

2142
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Well, not seventy eight, because that was a pretty insignificant

2143
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,799
Speaker 1: year for Houston. But I mean, first of all, of course,

2144
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:32,839
Speaker 1: someone of my era. I mean when you talk about

2145
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:37,759
Speaker 1: the single greatest impact college basketball game that was ever

2146
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: played in terms of time and impact, was in nineteen

2147
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 1: sixty eight when the University of Houston, led by Elvin Hayes,

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Speaker 1: played UCLA in the middle of the Astrodome. Now, this

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01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: had never been done before. In fact, what they did

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01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 1: was they imported the basketball court from the Los Angeles

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01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: Sports Arena, flew it to Houston, pieced it together, and

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01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 1: then put the court in the middle of the Astrodome.

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01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: Just the aerial view of it was ridiculous because you

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01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 1: had this huge, you know, fifty thousand seed stadium. Do

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01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 1: you have a little, tiny court in the middle. And then,

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01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 1: of course Houston upset was the first loss of then

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01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: Luel Sindor's career. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, you didn't see that game, No,

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01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 1: I wasn't alive.

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Speaker 9: And as Manci you know this, they talk about getting

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01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 9: married to the game. Yes, Steve you are married to

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01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 9: numbers and get them yes, and you hold out with

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01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 9: a badge of honor.

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Speaker 1: I applaud you. I do. By the way, speaking of

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Speaker 1: that game, Coach John Wooden has just been honored with

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Speaker 1: a posted stamp. The legendary UCLA coach who was one

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Speaker 1: of the most remarkable people that I ever encountered on

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01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 1: numerous occasions, very fortunately for me in my entire life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was beyond belief that man. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I could tell all kinds of stories about John Wooden.

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Speaker 1: He was remarkable.

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01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:09,480
Speaker 9: Some would say, you're remarkable. No, no, no, no, are remarkable.

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01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 9: One of my favorite stories about Coach Wooden. I actually

2173
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 9: was fortunate enough. We had a big event called Winning Ways.

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Speaker 9: It was a huge event down in Orange County where

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01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 9: we brought in on people are very successful in whatever

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01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 9: they did to do interviews. And I was on a

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Speaker 9: stage and I got the plumb assignment to do a

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Speaker 9: one on one sit down interview with Coach Wooden in

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Speaker 9: front of I don't know about ten thousand people.

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Speaker 1: It was an amazing experience. But before we got on stage,

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01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 1: I brought my family down to meet Coach Wooden behind scenes.

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01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: He was gracious as always. But my oldest son, who

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01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:47,639
Speaker 1: was at about I guess he was maybe eight years

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01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 1: old at the time. He brought a friend with him,

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01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 1: and I was telling these kids, you know, as we're

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01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 1: going to the arena, you're about to meet the greatest

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01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: coach of all time any sport. And so I don't

2188
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 1: know the mind of an eight year old. They think

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01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 1: he's like a real like an active coach. So when

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01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 1: you met Coach Wooden, the man's already in his mid

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01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: nineties at that point, and you know, completely sharp as

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01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 1: could be. And this kid looks at him and goes,

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01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: you're really old to Coach Woulden. And Coach Wooden doesn't

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01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:22,759
Speaker 1: miss it be he looks right at him and he goes, actually,

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01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm older than you think I am. The man had

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01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 1: an unbelievable sense of human He's just a phenomenal person.

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Speaker 9: Did he ever get to talk in that interview or

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01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 9: did you talk over the whole time?

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Speaker 1: I was so I really had to restrain myself. I

2200
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: really had a shame that it's hard for you because

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: I could have told his entire life story over and

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01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: over again, never let him speak, But no, I deferred

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01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: to Coach Wooden, and you know, he just one of

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01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 1: the most remarkable people. Vin Scully was very much the

2205
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:55,719
Speaker 1: same way. You know, people that are literally the best

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01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: of the best of the best, and then you meet

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01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 1: them and they're just better people. And that's how Coach

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01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 1: Wooden was, That's how Vin Scully was. And you're just

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01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: thinking of people that couldn't hold a candle to them,

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01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: that show certain levels of arrogance based on celebrity or stature,

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01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,679
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, if the best of the best ever

2212
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: are this genuine as individuals, what's wrong with the rest

2213
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:25,480
Speaker 1: of you? Jackasses?

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01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:26,719
Speaker 2: That is a great question.

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01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, I mean it's like, no, who would

2216
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 1: have thought that after an update that Steve would say, jackass,

2217
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 1: I can't what happens? I know I'm capable of yes,

2218
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 1: yes that I mean, it's just, you know, just unbelievable.

2219
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: But to have a chance to know these men and

2220
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 1: obviously idolizing them and then meeting them as people, regular

2221
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: people and finding out they're just that regular people who

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01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 1: are just very nice and courteous and the tentive. And

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01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 1: that's one of the great pluses know of my careers,

2224
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 1: having a chance to have some kind of interaction with

2225
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 1: people like that, and I can see the tears come.

2226
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: It's very similar to when you and I forged our

2227
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: friendship and I begged my way into one of your interviews.

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01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I was going to bring that up.

2229
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 2: I was like, how did you manage to get any work?

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01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: Monsy?

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01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 9: He talked about an incident at a party when he

2232
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 9: showed up naked to the party.

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01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 1: I did that. Yes, yeah, I beg Beefen to do

2234
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 1: an interview with me just so I could tell that story.

2235
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: Now you have to be.

2236
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 2: I jaw is still on the floor. I'm still picking

2237
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 2: it up. But yeah, I know, I have so many

2238
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 2: questions and so many thoughts.

2239
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 1: Well, I've had certain phases of my life.

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01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 2: Let's just say, so many questions, somebody thoughts.

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01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: So many phases?

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01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 4: All right?

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01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: Coming up on we'll continue the phase of covering everything

2244
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 1: on in sports, including a rule change that you're going

2245
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: to hear in Major League Baseball this year. This is

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01:55:56,640 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Hartman and Moncey Belanos here on

2247
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday. So I during the break, I shared

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01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 1: the story that, by the way, you can actually hear

2249
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: in my interview with Brian Finley. Are you okay with

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01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: that story.

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01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 3: Is it crazy that I'm not super surprised about it,

2252
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 3: knowing you knowing this, uh, gentleman, that.

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01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 2: Sits across for me.

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01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 3: You know you just you you seem like you weren't wild,

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01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 3: But then I hear your wild and I'm like, yeah,

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01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 3: I can see that.

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01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: You know, you know how you can sort of prejudge

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01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 1: people by appearance. Sure, my appearance honestly has never changed

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01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 1: my entire life. I mean, my hair was a little longer,

2260
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 1: obviously during longer, but my basic.

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01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 2: Look, that's what you look like.

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01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: And you know, I you know, I had like like

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01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 1: one dimple on one side, type of I got away

2264
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 1: with murder just because I sort of appeared to be harmless.

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01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 2: Sure, you gotta take advantage when you can.

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01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 1: And then you take advantage of that, right, you know.

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01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: So I get you. You know, everyone's got something that's

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 1: going for them, everybody, and so you know, and every

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01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: every one of us on this planet has I mean,

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01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 1: everyone's hyper critical about this, that and everything else. Everyone's

2271
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 1: got something everything. Yep, it sets you apart from the

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01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:23,040
Speaker 1: rest of the crowd.

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01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 2: Was your wife at this party? Your ex wife?

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 5: Now?

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01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: Was she had she wasn't even born yet.

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01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 2: She wasn't even born yet. I don't think I knew that.

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01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 1: Now she was born. Let's see when I graduated high school,

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01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 1: she was almost seven.

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01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't think I knew that. The more you know,

2280
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 2: the more you know.

2281
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 1: But that might my dating scene is the whole difference.

2282
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's a that's for the fifth hour.

2283
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 1: That's that's another, that's another, that's another hour baseball. Last year,

2284
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 1: baseball made a mighty step forward, Moncey by introducing the

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01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 1: pitch clock. The average baseball game was reduced in time

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01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: by almost twenty five minutes per game. Crazy and by

2287
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 1: the way, a tenance at the games was at its

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01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:15,160
Speaker 1: highest level in almost ten years. It worked. I went

2289
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 1: to a couple of Dodger games early in the season,

2290
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 1: one of those matinee specials that starts at New and

2291
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 1: I was just stunned, Like we were out of there

2292
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: in two hours, Yeah, like two twenty two thirty and

2293
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 1: we are games over, Like I wasn't used to that

2294
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: in recent years. Like, you know, you would go to

2295
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 1: concessions and you would leave, let's say, like in the

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01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: third inning, and you come back an hour later. It's

2297
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 1: like the fifth inning, right, miss a lot, And this

2298
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 1: time I'm coming back. It's like we're in the bottom

2299
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: of the seventh, Like I missed the seventh inning stretch.

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01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, you can't be late, especially here at Dodger Stadium.

2301
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 2: You've got to be there.

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01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 1: So one of the big rules was when there was

2303
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 1: nobody on base, the pitcher had fifteen seconds to deliver.

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01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 1: If there was a runner on bay, they would have

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01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 1: twenty seconds. Well, this year, because apparently this was part

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01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 1: of the deal, it's been reduced to eighteen seconds, and

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01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 1: the Players Association's not exactly happy about this.

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01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 3: No, there's a couple of players, one specifically Corbyn Burns,

2309
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 3: ace pitcher for the Brewers. He thinks that injuries that

2310
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 3: happened this past year we're because of that pitch clock,

2311
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 3: and he doesn't think that the league is doing its

2312
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 3: due diligence into looking into how it's affecting the pitchers,

2313
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 3: making them now have to speed up their pitch when

2314
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 3: they're not used to it.

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01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 1: Right, The younger pitchers were okay, but it was the

2316
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: veteran pitchers, yes, early on, when you look at guys

2317
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: like shirts or and Berland or early in the year,

2318
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 1: were really struggle. Yeah, because you've played your entire career

2319
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 1: without a pitch clock exactly, and all of a sudden,

2320
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 1: your routine is completely thrown off because you got to

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01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 1: get that pitch off. Now, both of them adjusted to

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01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 1: it as the season went on. But yeah, I mean

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01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 1: this was a good thing of what they happened, And

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01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to go over the top on this. Yeah,

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01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean getting the game down to an average about

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Speaker 1: two hours forty minutes. That's good enough for major league.

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Speaker 3: Basically, That's what I was gonna say. Is it really

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02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 3: worth it for two seconds? It's hard to imagine it is.

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02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean two seconds over I mean, maybe knock

2330
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:15,840
Speaker 1: off another five minutes of the of the game time.

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02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think. I don't think that's worth it.

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Speaker 2: It does not sound worth it.

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02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we I'll tell you what's not good is

2334
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 1: Pitcher's getting hurt.

2335
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I don't know if it was

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02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 2: really just for five minutes. That sounds so.

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02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 3: Stupid, like that sounds like a stupid reason. Oh we

2338
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 3: want to do We're going to shave five more minutes?

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02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 2: What?

2340
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 1: Well, my point was, you got more people to show

2341
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 1: up for the games already successful, and that's good. That's

2342
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 1: a good thing, and maybe some people that were not

2343
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,840
Speaker 1: big baseball fans gave it a chance because of the clock.

2344
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 1: But beyond that, don't don't alienate your biggest fan base.

2345
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 1: That's for sure. All right. The NBA's got some problems.

2346
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 1: We got to get to. This is Fox Sports Saturday. Ah,

2347
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Speaker 1: just going down memory lane. Oh, Steve Harvin, lifetime ago,

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Speaker 1: lifetime ago, we would.

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Speaker 2: Have gone to high school together. I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, you would look at I would imagine, Mancy, that

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02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 1: you were just wildly popular in high school.

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Speaker 2: It may have been a little popular.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you were in the it crowd.

2360
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Speaker 3: It may have been in it maybe maybe, So you know, no,

2361
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:37,920
Speaker 3: I was well liked.

2362
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 2: Maybe yes, yeah, yes, but you know I was.

2363
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 3: I had friends in all all over the place because

2364
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 3: I played sports, but I also did theater. Yeah, so

2365
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I had theater friends, and

2366
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 3: then I had my my sports friends, and then I

2367
02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 3: also like spoke Spanish, so I was friends with all

2368
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Speaker 3: the Latin people, you know.

2369
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, were you voted like most popular?

2370
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:05,160
Speaker 2: I was voted, No, we didn't have most popular. What

2371
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 2: was I don't it was?

2372
02:02:07,840 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 3: No, we didn't have the most popular. It was something

2373
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 3: something else. I was voted, but it was not most popular.

2374
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't even remember.

2375
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 3: The one I wanted I didn't get and I was

2376
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 3: so mad. It was I wanted most athletic because I

2377
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:21,680
Speaker 3: played year round. I played volleyball, basketball and softball, and

2378
02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:24,840
Speaker 3: I didn't get it. I got it over. I think

2379
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 3: it was Shannon who I played basketball with, who she

2380
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:28,600
Speaker 3: was a star. But that was the one I wanted,

2381
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 3: and I didn't get it. I got something else.

2382
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't care about this one.

2383
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were. We had three finalists, and I was

2384
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: the finalist in two categories.

2385
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 2: Class clown.

2386
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 1: Well no, I wasn't that, which was unbelievable. What was

2387
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:42,240
Speaker 1: best smile? I actually got that. Yeah, but the other

2388
02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 1: one was the best most sincere. Now that that was

2389
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,840
Speaker 1: that was hilarious. That was that to be some kind

2390
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: of joke that is funny.

2391
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 2: You know, maybe you are sincere.

2392
02:02:54,600 --> 02:03:02,040
Speaker 1: I guess I am you are sincere. Yeah, having some fun.

2393
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 4: You know.

2394
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 1: We start off today talking a little bit about the NBA,

2395
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 1: now that the NBA sort of has center stage for

2396
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:12,120
Speaker 1: a while. Rough start for the NBA, Yeah, I mean,

2397
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 1: the All Star Game turned out to be a fiasco,

2398
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:19,280
Speaker 1: and we open the show trying to figure out in

2399
02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:22,640
Speaker 1: a year where Commissioner Adam Silver had made it clear

2400
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 1: to the players, we need this game to be more competitive.

2401
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that we're asking you to play a

2402
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 1: game like it's Game seven of the NBA Finals, but

2403
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 1: we need a competitive basketball game. I mean when Magic Johnson,

2404
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 1: Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, even as recently as Kobe Bryant

2405
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 1: and early in Lebron's career, the All Star Games alma

2406
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 1: not played with the intensity of a regular season game,

2407
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:00,000
Speaker 1: much less a playoff game. But at least the games

2408
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:04,440
Speaker 1: were competitive, right, This game ended up with three hundred

2409
02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 1: and ninety seven points and three fouls.

2410
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 2: You know, just a joke.

2411
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 1: Now you've made a complete mockery.

2412
02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2413
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Now, the NFL got to this point where eventually the

2414
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: games became touch football to the point where they decided

2415
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 1: enough's enough and they created a flag football game.

2416
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:23,440
Speaker 2: But to me that I understand.

2417
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 3: I understand in football players not wanting to go all

2418
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 3: out because it is such a high contact level sport.

2419
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:33,240
Speaker 2: In basketball, I don't get that.

2420
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was Anthony Edwards that said it,

2421
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:38,720
Speaker 3: that they were like, well, you know, we just don't

2422
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 3: want to get hurt, so we're not trying this hard.

2423
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, who has gone hurt in an

2424
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 2: All Star game?

2425
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Usually, and athletes have told me this, you are far

2426
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 1: more likely to get hurt. Try not to get hurt.

2427
02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:51,160
Speaker 2: I believe that as well.

2428
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 3: Yes, because you're doing something that's not coming natural to you,

2429
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 3: because you're holding back.

2430
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 2: If you just go out there and you just play,

2431
02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 2: it's come second nature too, So I totally believe that.

2432
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, who has ever gotten hurt?

2433
02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 3: I know, like, I think one time Kobe didn't get

2434
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 3: like a bloody nose or something during one of the

2435
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 3: All Star Games, but he played like nobody has actually

2436
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:12,120
Speaker 3: gotten hurt in an NBA All Star Game where they

2437
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:14,960
Speaker 3: were not able to finish out the season or come

2438
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 3: back and play two days later.

2439
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 2: So to me, I'm just like, this's a joke.

2440
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 1: It really is.

2441
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 2: It's a joke.

2442
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,440
Speaker 3: This is nobody's asking you to tackle this guy or

2443
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 3: anything like that. We just want to see the best

2444
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:28,200
Speaker 3: of the best actually play against each other, which is

2445
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 3: a nice treat if you actually take it seriously. And

2446
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:34,160
Speaker 3: I know we are kind of like bashing Adam Silver

2447
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:36,920
Speaker 3: a little bit because he's turned this into a player's league,

2448
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 3: But there has to be some responsibility put on Lebron James,

2449
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 3: put on Steph Curry, right like the faces of the league.

2450
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:47,560
Speaker 2: You guys have to be the ones that are pushing.

2451
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:51,080
Speaker 3: For your teammates to want to just take it seriously

2452
02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 3: a little bit, a lead little bit.

2453
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree, And so there is that

2454
02:05:57,320 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 1: fine line.

2455
02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 3: We have breaking news, breaking news from Fox Sports.

2456
02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, guys, we got breaking news. UCLA football is bringing

2457
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 9: on Eric b Enemy as their offensive coordinator to Adam Schefter,

2458
02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 9: Monsey and Steve Wow.

2459
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 2: Is this real?

2460
02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:24,760
Speaker 1: This is a real story. Wow? Okay that wow, that's

2461
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 1: that's that's a huge story on a number of levels. Here.

2462
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 1: If you don't know, Chip Kelly left UCLA abruptly, yes,

2463
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 1: taking a four million dollar a year pay cut to

2464
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:40,040
Speaker 1: become the offensive coordinator Ohio State with his former quarterback

2465
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 1: in college New Hampshire when he was coaching there, and

2466
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 1: they hire Sean Foster, been the running backs coach, former

2467
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:50,280
Speaker 1: UCLA running back than the running backs coach, but had

2468
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 1: no experience as a coordinator or anything else. But to

2469
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:58,800
Speaker 1: bring in a proven offensive coordinator at the highest level

2470
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL like Eric Enemy, who by the way,

2471
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:04,760
Speaker 1: is an LA guy. Originally that's a major play. Yeah,

2472
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 1: so more on this. So it's a finalization of a

2473
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:08,840
Speaker 1: two year deal. Yeah.

2474
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:10,839
Speaker 9: So not only is he going to be offensive coordinator,

2475
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 9: but he will be associate head coach. This accordion to

2476
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:18,919
Speaker 9: Pete Thamil ESPN and other outlets as well. And according

2477
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 9: to one report, he is going to have and this

2478
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:24,800
Speaker 9: is understandable considering his title. He's gonna have full autonomy

2479
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 9: over the offense and in trying to revitalize an offense

2480
02:07:29,320 --> 02:07:33,520
Speaker 9: going into now the Big ten era as UCLA does.

2481
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:38,120
Speaker 1: Well. I mean, this is this is a story on

2482
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 1: so many because I mean, obviously the frustration for Eric

2483
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 1: B Enemy in the coaching hiring cycles of the last

2484
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 1: what three years, that he had been bypassed and then

2485
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 1: he decided, you know, to sort of roll the dice,

2486
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:52,720
Speaker 1: leave the chiefs to go to the commanders to take

2487
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 1: over his offensive coordinator, which seemed ludicrous in the sense

2488
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 1: that Ron Rivera was dead man walking ownership of the organization.

2489
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:03,560
Speaker 1: He knew Rivera was not going to be long for

2490
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 1: the job and that once he was let go, so

2491
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 1: was everyone else going to be let go. And that's

2492
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:11,640
Speaker 1: exactly what happened to the enemy. They let him go,

2493
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 1: bringing Cliff Kingsbury be the offensive coordinator of the commanders. Wow, okay,

2494
02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 1: that's going to be very interesting.

2495
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:23,360
Speaker 9: It also adds Steven Montci that the enemy has probably

2496
02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:26,520
Speaker 9: known or you would understand this to be the case,

2497
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:29,880
Speaker 9: that he did draw strong interest from a lot of

2498
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 9: NFL teams this offseason as far as being an OC

2499
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 9: or an assistant head coach, never able to get the

2500
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:40,560
Speaker 9: job or wasn't interested in it. Not clear whether it

2501
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:43,800
Speaker 9: was all on him or whether the other side who

2502
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,400
Speaker 9: was looking to hire went with somebody else in the

2503
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 9: end because maybe they felt like they had a better fit.

2504
02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 9: But this is the fit, and as you mentioned, Steve

2505
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:55,400
Speaker 9: Los Angeles, this guy knows this area and this could

2506
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 9: be one of those opportunities for him where he has

2507
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 9: a makeover and finally gets UCLA to the Promised Land.

2508
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 9: But also maybe this leads to him getting back to

2509
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:09,080
Speaker 9: what he could be one day is that head coach?

2510
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 9: And say an NFL perspective.

2511
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:14,840
Speaker 3: Has his path ever crossed with Deshaun Foster's path in

2512
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:15,280
Speaker 3: some way?

2513
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 2: Have they ever worked together? They both UCLA?

2514
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 1: But do we know so what happened here? Eric b

2515
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:23,720
Speaker 1: Enemy is someone that went to high school in the

2516
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 1: Los Angeles area In the late eighties, Bill McCartney, who

2517
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 1: was the coach at the University of Colorado, did something

2518
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 1: that only one other school to ever really done outside

2519
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:38,040
Speaker 1: of US and UCLA. Arizona State did this way back

2520
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:40,440
Speaker 1: in the Frank Cush days back in the nineteen seventies,

2521
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:43,760
Speaker 1: and he dared go into the LA market to recoup

2522
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:47,680
Speaker 1: players and built Arizona State into a powerhouse by doing so.

2523
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:50,680
Speaker 1: Bill McCartney did the same thing in the late eighties.

2524
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:55,000
Speaker 1: He actually dared to come into the southern California market

2525
02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 1: for high school talent, saying, hey, if you don't want

2526
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:02,480
Speaker 1: to go to US here UCLA, come to Colorado. And

2527
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 1: before you know that, Colorado went from an Ulsa ran

2528
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 1: to a powerhouse. Eric b Enemy was a running back

2529
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 1: on those great Colorado teams, third in the Heisman Trophy,

2530
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:14,400
Speaker 1: had seen a year at Colorado. So he's an LA guy.

2531
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:19,200
Speaker 1: But even more so than that, from a recruiting standpoint,

2532
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:22,480
Speaker 1: you're bringing in an offensive coordinator with a lot of

2533
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:24,240
Speaker 1: NFL credibility.

2534
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 2: No, it sounds like a big win for UCLA.

2535
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with the recruiting of quarterbacks when you have

2536
02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 1: been helping to mentor a guy by the name of Patrick.

2537
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:38,040
Speaker 2: Mahomes right right, Wow, I was.

2538
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:41,760
Speaker 1: Not that is out of nowhere. That really is out

2539
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:43,720
Speaker 1: of nowhere. That's a game changer.

2540
02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2541
02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 1: And plus, you know, look at Deshaun Foster. With all

2542
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 1: due credit, Look, I love Here's what I loved about

2543
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 1: Deshaun Foster because Chip Kelly, at no point did you

2544
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:55,840
Speaker 1: ever really feel Chip Kelly was a Bruin.

2545
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just you just never felt it. I understand that,

2546
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:01,440
Speaker 2: and I'm not and I know exactly yes.

2547
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know Charmond the athletic director of UCLA

2548
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:09,480
Speaker 1: and hiring Deshaun Foster. Foster made it infinitely clear. I

2549
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 1: am a Bruin. I am proud to be a Bruin.

2550
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:13,240
Speaker 1: I've always been a Bruin. I always wanted this a

2551
02:11:13,320 --> 02:11:15,880
Speaker 1: dream job, blah blah blah blah blah, which is an

2552
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:20,520
Speaker 1: honest thing. But his lack of you know, background as

2553
02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 1: a coordinator, as a head coach or anything along those lines.

2554
02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 1: To bring in someone like Eric b enemy smart move.

2555
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:31,080
Speaker 1: That's a really smart move. H So all right, we were,

2556
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, before the show, Beefin and I like to

2557
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:36,160
Speaker 1: talk a little UCLA Sports and our frustration, you know

2558
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 1: of the you know, the direction that they seem to

2559
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:41,880
Speaker 1: be going in this game changer Beefin.

2560
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:45,160
Speaker 9: It is and you brought it up. It's a credibility

2561
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:47,240
Speaker 9: that he brings. First of all, you've got the passion

2562
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:51,240
Speaker 9: from a head coach in Deshaun Foster. But to your point,

2563
02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 9: Monsey and Steve about Chip Kelly no longer at UCLA,

2564
02:11:56,240 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 9: who is Chip Kelly? We never got to really get

2565
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:03,040
Speaker 9: an idea of who this man is. He never ever

2566
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:07,080
Speaker 9: really showed emotion. I never had a chance to really

2567
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:08,959
Speaker 9: get a chance to know him as someone.

2568
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:10,280
Speaker 1: Who works with the school.

2569
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,920
Speaker 9: And then as soon as Deshaun Foster gets the opportunity

2570
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:15,920
Speaker 9: to be a head coach, we're in his office the

2571
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:19,000
Speaker 9: day of his introductory press conference at interviewing him, it's

2572
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:21,960
Speaker 9: a completely different landscape UCLA football.

2573
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:23,960
Speaker 1: Now, well he's someone your root for it, for your

2574
02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:26,640
Speaker 1: UCLA fan, want you want it to work out with him.

2575
02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:29,560
Speaker 1: But this is a huge hire to get Eric the

2576
02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 1: enemy in as your offensive coordinator. I love it. Wow.

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02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:35,920
Speaker 1: I needed that. I needed that. I needed that. I

2578
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:38,280
Speaker 1: was so down. I mean I always feel down about it,

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02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:40,960
Speaker 1: and and then Bfen brings me down even further. Well,

2580
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, because he's a straight shooter and he's like, Okay,

2581
02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:47,080
Speaker 1: there's the problem, and I'm like, we just commiserate, and

2582
02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 1: so wow, all right, very very good coming up on

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02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,720
Speaker 1: the other side. For the NBA, yes, certainly not all

2584
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:57,440
Speaker 1: bad is But here's here's a big question. Does this

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02:12:58,200 --> 02:13:04,320
Speaker 1: league right now have of a player that is the

2586
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:08,760
Speaker 1: next Lebron James or the next Steph Curry. There are

2587
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Speaker 1: candidates who've had an opportunity that have not caught on.

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02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:15,480
Speaker 1: Why is that? We'll break it down. This is Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Montci Belanias here on this Saturday,

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Speaker 1: com studios. Now right after the show, our podcast will

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Speaker 1: be going out. If you miss any of today's show.

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02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:40,760
Speaker 1: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

2596
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, see this show posted right after we get

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Speaker 1: off the air.

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Speaker 4: We have.

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02:13:48,640 --> 02:13:51,880
Speaker 1: Like on air stuff and we have off air stuff, right. Yeah,

2600
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 1: So people are like, do you ever stop talking?

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02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:56,440
Speaker 5: No?

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02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:57,000
Speaker 1: I never do.

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02:13:57,240 --> 02:14:00,680
Speaker 2: No, that's on air, off air, in air, midair, just

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02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 2: all air.

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Speaker 1: I just I have a lot to say.

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Speaker 2: You do you do?

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02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 1: Even if I'm talking to myself. That's okay, It's all right.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's listening.

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Speaker 1: I hope the NBA is listening right now because they're

2610
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 1: really in need of a new face. Yeah, Lebron James

2611
02:14:23,160 --> 02:14:27,160
Speaker 1: and Steph Curry are still the faces of this league.

2612
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:31,520
Speaker 1: And you know, this league benefited from the unreal opportunity

2613
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 1: there had never been before the Cavs and the Warriors

2614
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:40,280
Speaker 1: faced off four consecutive years. There had never been teams

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02:14:40,280 --> 02:14:43,040
Speaker 1: that ever had faced each other three straight years in

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02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, But for four straight years, you got certainly,

2617
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:52,000
Speaker 1: at that time, Lebron was the best player in the

2618
02:14:52,080 --> 02:14:55,440
Speaker 1: league going against the best team in the league, led

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Speaker 1: by Steph Curry. Of course, Kevin Durant was in on

2620
02:14:57,720 --> 02:15:00,400
Speaker 1: the last two there. It was a dream and it

2621
02:15:00,520 --> 02:15:03,800
Speaker 1: really was reflected in the ratings. The ratings for all

2622
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:08,440
Speaker 1: four of those NBA finals were outstanding. And when you

2623
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:13,720
Speaker 1: lose that anticipation of a matchup between Steph and Lebron,

2624
02:15:13,920 --> 02:15:16,320
Speaker 1: the league suffers. I mean, now we're looking at the

2625
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:20,200
Speaker 1: possibility of them facing off in a playing game, which is,

2626
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:21,720
Speaker 1: by the way, what we had a couple of years ago,

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02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:24,720
Speaker 1: the first year of the play in we had the

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02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:29,840
Speaker 1: Warriors and the Lakers, and my comment was, well, this

2629
02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:34,080
Speaker 1: really started defeats the whole purpose because the Warriors would

2630
02:15:34,120 --> 02:15:36,000
Speaker 1: have been a playoff team that year. They were like

2631
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:38,920
Speaker 1: a seven the Lakers or eight or vice versa. But

2632
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:41,960
Speaker 1: one of them got eliminated. I said, well, that's great,

2633
02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:44,160
Speaker 1: you just knocked out one of your biggest stars. Had

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02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:47,120
Speaker 1: you just stayed with the normal playoff format, they both

2635
02:15:47,160 --> 02:15:48,400
Speaker 1: would have been in the playoffs.

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02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. That backfired on them.

2637
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:51,400
Speaker 1: And it could happen again.

2638
02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you wouldn't.

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02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:56,720
Speaker 1: Worry about this, Moncie, if there was a player that

2640
02:15:56,880 --> 02:16:00,520
Speaker 1: was ready to take the baton and become the of

2641
02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:05,600
Speaker 1: this league. Now we had Yannis win a championship, got

2642
02:16:05,680 --> 02:16:08,880
Speaker 1: Jokic winning a championship, and really that comes along with

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02:16:09,080 --> 02:16:11,920
Speaker 1: why Steph and Lebron are who they are, because they

2644
02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:17,360
Speaker 1: have multiple obviously championships, and it just doesn't seem to

2645
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:18,600
Speaker 1: be sticking with these guys.

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02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I think it's because the face

2647
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:24,160
Speaker 3: of the NBA were players that.

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02:16:25,960 --> 02:16:27,000
Speaker 2: Kind of fell flat.

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02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:31,480
Speaker 3: I think Zion Williamson was set to be the next

2650
02:16:31,480 --> 02:16:36,120
Speaker 3: face of the NBA, right, especially just the prospect of like, ooh,

2651
02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:39,400
Speaker 3: somebody like Lebron, Like just the hype around Zion Williamson

2652
02:16:39,560 --> 02:16:42,160
Speaker 3: when he first came in. Then he gets hurt and

2653
02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:44,840
Speaker 3: you know, still stories about him in his diet, Like,

2654
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:47,280
Speaker 3: I think he was supposed to be, right, the face

2655
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:50,040
Speaker 3: of the NBA. It didn't work out. Another player I

2656
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:52,199
Speaker 3: think that the NBA was hoping would be the face

2657
02:16:52,240 --> 02:16:56,279
Speaker 3: of the NBA, Jahn Moran, John Moran was perfect, perfect

2658
02:16:56,400 --> 02:16:58,280
Speaker 3: perfect Not.

2659
02:16:58,480 --> 02:16:59,480
Speaker 2: So much now, right.

2660
02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:01,880
Speaker 3: So I think that's why the face of the NBA

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02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:04,560
Speaker 3: is this thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight year old

2662
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:07,200
Speaker 3: still because I think those guys were supposed to be

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02:17:07,240 --> 02:17:08,200
Speaker 3: the ones taking over.

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02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:13,160
Speaker 1: So do you? And I said this about men's tennis

2665
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:15,760
Speaker 1: for a long time. There was an era where US

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02:17:15,800 --> 02:17:18,800
Speaker 1: men were dominating. Yes, you could go back to John

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02:17:18,879 --> 02:17:21,400
Speaker 1: McEnroe and Jimmy Connors, and then later with a Pete

2668
02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:24,120
Speaker 1: Sampras and Andre Agassi, and then you even have like

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02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:27,680
Speaker 1: a Jim Curry or a Michael Chang. These are American players.

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02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:30,920
Speaker 1: And then you got Federer, and you got a Nadal,

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02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:36,000
Speaker 1: and he got Djokovic and three the greatest players in

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02:17:36,040 --> 02:17:38,840
Speaker 1: the history of the men's game. But they're not America.

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Speaker 5: No.

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02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:41,199
Speaker 2: And who's the young guy right now.

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02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:46,119
Speaker 1: Well, Alvarez, thank you, thank you, And so you're in

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Speaker 1: this country. This is why a Yannis or Jokic or

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02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:56,280
Speaker 1: a Doncic can never assume that role. Fair are not,

2678
02:17:56,680 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 1: even if they are the best players in the world.

2679
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 1: We like our player's heroes to be American.

2680
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:06,400
Speaker 3: So you think Shay because he's Canadian, Shae Gil just

2681
02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:09,440
Speaker 3: Alexander can't do it. So I actually, Jokic, I'm gonna

2682
02:18:09,680 --> 02:18:11,480
Speaker 3: put him out because I don't think he wants to

2683
02:18:11,520 --> 02:18:13,240
Speaker 3: be the face of the NBA on his own.

2684
02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:14,119
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like.

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02:18:14,200 --> 02:18:18,199
Speaker 3: No, I got horses, I'm out toodles. Johannest probably would

2686
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:20,800
Speaker 3: like to be But you're right, it just doesn't doesn't

2687
02:18:20,800 --> 02:18:21,360
Speaker 3: click like that.

2688
02:18:22,400 --> 02:18:24,520
Speaker 2: I really do think Luca.

2689
02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:28,959
Speaker 3: I know he's international, but I think Luca is gaining

2690
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:31,640
Speaker 3: more and more traction, is he? I do think so.

2691
02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:34,640
Speaker 3: And I don't know if he needs to win. Maybe

2692
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:37,000
Speaker 3: he needs to win, he needs to win. I'm not well,

2693
02:18:37,000 --> 02:18:38,480
Speaker 3: of course he needs to win. When I said maybe,

2694
02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:41,200
Speaker 3: I meant like this year he has to win. But

2695
02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:43,400
Speaker 3: I do feel like he's gaining traction.

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02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:44,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

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02:18:44,320 --> 02:18:46,200
Speaker 3: And then if we if you're what you're saying, then

2698
02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:48,760
Speaker 3: then when by Yama also couldn't be the face?

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02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:51,840
Speaker 1: Well and see that's that's the point. In other words,

2700
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:54,080
Speaker 1: have we gotten to the point where it doesn't have

2701
02:18:54,200 --> 02:18:59,480
Speaker 1: to be a Jordan or a Kobe or shak or

2702
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know American born players that become the

2703
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:09,080
Speaker 1: face of the NBA Wemba Yama is someone that may

2704
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:16,280
Speaker 1: test the water because realistically he's still several years away

2705
02:19:16,400 --> 02:19:19,359
Speaker 1: from being on a team that could be in contention

2706
02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:21,879
Speaker 1: for a championship. I mean, the Spurs have to build

2707
02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:24,200
Speaker 1: a lot of pieces. The one thing we can't deny

2708
02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:29,640
Speaker 1: is is talent. The fact that he has standalone skills

2709
02:19:31,160 --> 02:19:33,800
Speaker 1: in terms of just his unique size and everything else.

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02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:36,680
Speaker 1: What he's doing at a very young age tells you

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02:19:36,760 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 1: that it's all there. Yeah, and he has a certain

2712
02:19:39,720 --> 02:19:41,520
Speaker 1: level of charisma on top of everything else.

2713
02:19:41,720 --> 02:19:44,879
Speaker 3: The hype that comes with him, I think already helps Again.

2714
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:47,720
Speaker 3: Zion had so much hype with him and so did

2715
02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:49,640
Speaker 3: John Morant just like Lebron.

2716
02:19:49,760 --> 02:19:51,720
Speaker 2: So Wemby has that going for him.

2717
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:53,959
Speaker 3: That the hype is there and he seems to be

2718
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:56,200
Speaker 3: delivering now everything.

2719
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:57,160
Speaker 1: Well, he's got to win games.

2720
02:19:57,200 --> 02:19:59,240
Speaker 2: Well, he was every even he can stated.

2721
02:19:59,160 --> 02:20:02,800
Speaker 1: Last night losing the Lakers. Imagine how much more impressive

2722
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 1: this would be if we actually won the game.

2723
02:20:04,879 --> 02:20:07,480
Speaker 3: And don't you love that answer? Yeah, exactly, that's the

2724
02:20:07,480 --> 02:20:09,760
Speaker 3: perfect answer. But you're right, the Spurs have a lot

2725
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:13,280
Speaker 3: to do to help him get there, but he could

2726
02:20:13,360 --> 02:20:17,320
Speaker 3: get there the other the only other one right right now?

2727
02:20:18,520 --> 02:20:22,320
Speaker 2: Is it Gus Edwards well or is he being pushed?

2728
02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:24,600
Speaker 1: But part of my point, Mons is also the fact

2729
02:20:24,680 --> 02:20:29,040
Speaker 1: that every sport is better when they have an identifiable team.

2730
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:32,000
Speaker 1: The NFL is better now with the Chiefs being a

2731
02:20:32,040 --> 02:20:35,160
Speaker 1: dominant team and Patrick Mahomes being dominant. Even if you've

2732
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:39,120
Speaker 1: become a Chiefs hater because of it, it's good it's

2733
02:20:39,160 --> 02:20:40,760
Speaker 1: given the game an identity.

2734
02:20:40,879 --> 02:20:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good for the sport.

2735
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:47,720
Speaker 1: So dominant teams, dominant individuals. Women's tennis certainly benefit from

2736
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:52,720
Speaker 1: Serena Williams dominance. Yeah, and so every sport needs it.

2737
02:20:53,680 --> 02:20:56,199
Speaker 1: The NBA right now is in a transition.

2738
02:20:56,440 --> 02:20:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

2739
02:20:57,080 --> 02:21:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, the Bucks won a championship, fell off. We'll

2740
02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:04,160
Speaker 1: see what happens to the Nuggets. You know, can they repeat,

2741
02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:06,360
Speaker 1: can they get on a roll or is that a

2742
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:10,520
Speaker 1: one and done. Obviously Lebron and Steph aren't going to

2743
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:13,199
Speaker 1: be around forever and their teams are barely relevant.

2744
02:21:13,240 --> 02:21:13,400
Speaker 15: You know.

2745
02:21:14,600 --> 02:21:16,880
Speaker 1: Mark Mendina joined us a little bit earlier with the

2746
02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:18,960
Speaker 1: chances of either one of those teams getting in a

2747
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 1: playoff run, and he said he's probably not.

2748
02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't think anything can happen, as he said.

2749
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:27,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you saw the buzz last year when

2750
02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:30,440
Speaker 1: the Lakers actually dig it to the semi finals and

2751
02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:32,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden because of the presence of Lebron James.

2752
02:21:33,640 --> 02:21:35,640
Speaker 1: It was a good thing for the NBA. Yeah, but

2753
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:39,040
Speaker 1: they need somebody else to take it over. Let's find out.

2754
02:21:39,080 --> 02:21:41,840
Speaker 1: What is trending right now is mentioning men's tennis and

2755
02:21:41,879 --> 02:21:44,879
Speaker 1: of course no man is more attached to any sport

2756
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:47,480
Speaker 1: on the planet than Bryan Finley is to the game

2757
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:49,280
Speaker 1: of tennis. But do you agree with me? I mean,

2758
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:51,920
Speaker 1: when you think of the US domination with you know,

2759
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:55,560
Speaker 1: Connors and McEnroe, and then later with the likes of

2760
02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 1: Sampras and Agacy and Courier and Chang.

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02:21:58,680 --> 02:21:58,840
Speaker 6: That.

2762
02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:03,360
Speaker 1: Despite the fact that Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are the

2763
02:22:03,400 --> 02:22:07,040
Speaker 1: three most dominant players in men's history in America, at

2764
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:12,039
Speaker 1: least their dominance didn't resonate with the same magnitude than

2765
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:14,840
Speaker 1: it did with a Pete Sampras, Agacy or a John macar.

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02:22:16,480 --> 02:22:18,640
Speaker 9: You have a point there, and I think where we're

2767
02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:23,199
Speaker 9: seeing the effects of that is we do have some

2768
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:26,240
Speaker 9: guys coming up the ranks right now in American men's tennis,

2769
02:22:26,280 --> 02:22:30,000
Speaker 9: like Francis Tiaffo and Tommy Paul, who are good. But

2770
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:35,320
Speaker 9: think about it, if say a Djokovic or a talent

2771
02:22:35,480 --> 02:22:38,039
Speaker 9: like that came from the United States, I think we're

2772
02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:42,280
Speaker 9: going to have more Americanized versions of say a Nadal,

2773
02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:43,480
Speaker 9: a Djokovic right now.

2774
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:46,039
Speaker 1: Well, you even had an American men's champion in Grand

2775
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:47,000
Speaker 1: Slam since Ronick.

2776
02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:49,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, in two thousand and three, that's twenty years. But

2777
02:22:50,680 --> 02:22:52,480
Speaker 9: let me tell you the one thing though, that is

2778
02:22:52,520 --> 02:22:55,199
Speaker 9: exciting for American men's tennis. And a lot of times

2779
02:22:55,280 --> 02:22:58,520
Speaker 9: when you think about the best athletes in the United States,

2780
02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:02,680
Speaker 9: unlike other sports, they're going to football, they're going to

2781
02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:05,760
Speaker 9: the NBA and other places like this. But when you

2782
02:23:05,840 --> 02:23:09,039
Speaker 9: have an up and comer like Ben Shelton, who is

2783
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:12,279
Speaker 9: an American, a men's tennis player who is on the rise,

2784
02:23:13,160 --> 02:23:16,119
Speaker 9: who played quarterback in high school. Right, I don't think

2785
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:18,879
Speaker 9: I've ever heard of an American men's tennis player come

2786
02:23:18,879 --> 02:23:22,039
Speaker 9: from a football background. But he carries with himself this

2787
02:23:22,160 --> 02:23:25,920
Speaker 9: panache and this physicality and this grit that we haven't

2788
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 9: seen athletically from an American men's tennis player. That I

2789
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:33,040
Speaker 9: think could help bring in more of those athletic types

2790
02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:36,920
Speaker 9: who then can take this little drought we've had in

2791
02:23:36,959 --> 02:23:39,080
Speaker 9: Americans men's tennis and change things.

2792
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:45,440
Speaker 1: I just you need I remember this so well. It

2793
02:23:45,480 --> 02:23:48,520
Speaker 1: was the nineteen ninety one US Open when a thirty

2794
02:23:48,600 --> 02:23:51,120
Speaker 1: nine year old Jimmy Conners made a miracle run to

2795
02:23:51,160 --> 02:23:54,400
Speaker 1: the semis. He was an American player, obviously, it had

2796
02:23:54,400 --> 02:23:57,039
Speaker 1: a great career. This is like his last run came

2797
02:23:57,080 --> 02:24:00,120
Speaker 1: out of seemingly nowhere. The crowds in New York and

2798
02:24:00,560 --> 02:24:06,640
Speaker 1: just bonkers. And you know, we like our sports heroes

2799
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:09,080
Speaker 1: to be homegrown. This is the way we are. We

2800
02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:12,039
Speaker 1: always believe we're the best well, and so we want

2801
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:15,680
Speaker 1: whatever sport it is for our homegrown talent to be

2802
02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:17,040
Speaker 1: the best well.

2803
02:24:17,080 --> 02:24:19,560
Speaker 9: And I think if you go outside of the United States,

2804
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:23,400
Speaker 9: the perception is that when foreigners look at the United States,

2805
02:24:23,440 --> 02:24:26,360
Speaker 9: they like to think that our Americans, they think want

2806
02:24:26,360 --> 02:24:28,440
Speaker 9: to be the best and are the best in everything.

2807
02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:31,320
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm not sure that other countries and

2808
02:24:31,400 --> 02:24:34,600
Speaker 9: other places want that to be the case, but that's

2809
02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:36,880
Speaker 9: the impression we give off. So we only hurt Smontsy

2810
02:24:37,720 --> 02:24:40,120
Speaker 9: when we don't have the best in something. I think

2811
02:24:40,280 --> 02:24:41,800
Speaker 9: it really is ego crushing.

2812
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:44,400
Speaker 3: I don't disagree, but hear you guys talk just made

2813
02:24:44,440 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 3: me think, like, hello, what about shohe Atani and baseball?

2814
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:52,240
Speaker 1: Well, but that's the whole point is how how big

2815
02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:54,959
Speaker 1: of an impact is Otani actually having. We'll see now

2816
02:24:55,000 --> 02:24:58,840
Speaker 1: that he's a Dodger, but as an angel guys ever

2817
02:24:58,840 --> 02:24:59,959
Speaker 1: played in a playoff game?

2818
02:25:00,280 --> 02:25:02,680
Speaker 3: Right, But I think he is, like right, the face

2819
02:25:02,760 --> 02:25:05,280
Speaker 3: right now of baseball in blue.

2820
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:08,920
Speaker 1: But but are they getting The last true face of

2821
02:25:08,959 --> 02:25:12,480
Speaker 1: baseball was Derek Cheater. Yeah, you know, because he was

2822
02:25:12,520 --> 02:25:14,440
Speaker 1: the short side of the Yankees that were winning multiple

2823
02:25:14,600 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 1: championships and he was the face of Major League Baseball.

2824
02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll see. I mean, Otani has a

2825
02:25:22,280 --> 02:25:26,320
Speaker 1: great opportunity being a Dodger of obviously taking the next

2826
02:25:26,400 --> 02:25:27,959
Speaker 1: level because now he's on a team that you know

2827
02:25:28,080 --> 02:25:30,640
Speaker 1: is going to be in the playoffs every year. But

2828
02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:34,320
Speaker 1: are Americans gonna jump on Otani? We'll see, well, and

2829
02:25:34,600 --> 02:25:37,640
Speaker 1: Americans are losing in the NBA. Think about it, Like

2830
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:42,600
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about and joke Jokich and Doncic,

2831
02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:45,080
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic. These are guys that are from outside the

2832
02:25:45,160 --> 02:25:48,600
Speaker 1: United States America. They feel like we're the best at everything.

2833
02:25:48,959 --> 02:25:51,959
Speaker 1: Well it's a rude awakening, yeah right now.

2834
02:25:52,520 --> 02:25:54,560
Speaker 9: And and I think that some fans are having a

2835
02:25:54,600 --> 02:25:57,880
Speaker 9: hard time stomaching that reality. But the reality is that

2836
02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:01,720
Speaker 9: Eric b Enemy, according to reports, is finalizing a two

2837
02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:04,920
Speaker 9: year deal to become the offensive coordinator and associate head

2838
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:09,879
Speaker 9: football coach for UCLA. This coming is big news for

2839
02:26:09,959 --> 02:26:16,120
Speaker 9: those in Westwood. Meanwhile, in college basketball, Eric Philipowski was sprained.

2840
02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:19,240
Speaker 9: He had his knee sprain during a court storming today

2841
02:26:19,320 --> 02:26:22,160
Speaker 9: when his number eight Duchies lost to Wake Forest eighty

2842
02:26:22,160 --> 02:26:24,800
Speaker 9: three to seventy nine. He said afterwards that he felt

2843
02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:27,840
Speaker 9: that a student who ran into him to cause the sprain,

2844
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:31,400
Speaker 9: that that student did it intentionally and that it was

2845
02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:34,560
Speaker 9: on purpose. And now there is video coming out in

2846
02:26:34,680 --> 02:26:38,560
Speaker 9: slow mo from the ceiling of the arena in Winston

2847
02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:41,480
Speaker 9: Salem where you get a better look at it did

2848
02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:46,560
Speaker 9: look on purpose, the student that ran into Philipowski, which

2849
02:26:46,600 --> 02:26:48,920
Speaker 9: then turned it into a situation where he needed to

2850
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:52,720
Speaker 9: be helped off the floor. And I watched the video,

2851
02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:53,600
Speaker 9: it was ridiculous.

2852
02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:56,879
Speaker 1: I mean, Wake Forest, shame on you, no doubt.

2853
02:26:56,959 --> 02:26:59,800
Speaker 9: And then i'llive you with this because there are a

2854
02:26:59,800 --> 02:27:03,119
Speaker 9: couple of other college basketball games that are going on,

2855
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:06,720
Speaker 9: one being number nine Kansas is all over Texas sixty

2856
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:09,560
Speaker 9: two to forty about halfway through the second half. There

2857
02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:11,640
Speaker 9: and overtime win for number two Houston eighty two to

2858
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:15,320
Speaker 9: seventy six against number eleven Baylor, Number four Arizona triumphs

2859
02:27:15,400 --> 02:27:20,600
Speaker 9: ninety one to seventy five against Washington, and lastly a

2860
02:27:20,840 --> 02:27:23,000
Speaker 9: win for number seventeen Kentucky.

2861
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:24,920
Speaker 1: They put their prior loss.

2862
02:27:24,640 --> 02:27:27,080
Speaker 9: From earlier in the week behind them after falling to

2863
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:30,720
Speaker 9: LSU where LSU got fine one hundred thousand dollars for

2864
02:27:30,959 --> 02:27:34,760
Speaker 9: court storming, but one seventeen to ninety five the win

2865
02:27:34,920 --> 02:27:39,119
Speaker 9: for Kentucky over number thirteen Alabama and they keep playing

2866
02:27:39,800 --> 02:27:43,520
Speaker 9: as they get it back to Monsey and Steve john Shire,

2867
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:48,879
Speaker 9: the Dukeead coach, in the postgame press conference on his soapbox,

2868
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:52,039
Speaker 9: saying why are we still doing court stormings? Why is

2869
02:27:52,080 --> 02:27:56,320
Speaker 9: this still happening? And it once again leads to an

2870
02:27:56,320 --> 02:27:58,160
Speaker 9: injury on a player after they.

2871
02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:01,400
Speaker 1: Lost, well not only in the players, but it could

2872
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:05,560
Speaker 1: injure fans if you watch this video and we've seen

2873
02:28:05,840 --> 02:28:10,400
Speaker 1: similar scenes, but this one was they engulfed that course literally,

2874
02:28:10,520 --> 02:28:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean that court in a matter of seconds, and

2875
02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:16,240
Speaker 1: as students are running on the court, one student falls,

2876
02:28:17,560 --> 02:28:25,480
Speaker 1: one they're getting trampled, and then what who's responsible for that?

2877
02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:31,680
Speaker 1: So before a real catastrophe happens, somebody's got to do

2878
02:28:31,720 --> 02:28:32,520
Speaker 1: something about this.

2879
02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:34,800
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that's usually what needs to happen.

2880
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:36,880
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, usually, and all of a sudden you have

2881
02:28:36,959 --> 02:28:39,000
Speaker 1: a tragedy happen, and then all that's what I do.

2882
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:43,080
Speaker 1: This should never have happened. It's like, okay, yeah, but

2883
02:28:43,879 --> 02:28:46,160
Speaker 1: we had plenty of warnings before that it could happen.

2884
02:28:46,520 --> 02:28:50,600
Speaker 1: Be fan, great job today. We always appreciate that. Once again,

2885
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:53,560
Speaker 1: we're here at the Tirak dot Com studios. Yeah, I mean,

2886
02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:58,000
Speaker 1: it just it just it's just incredible to me, especially

2887
02:28:58,080 --> 02:29:02,480
Speaker 1: with the Duke situation, because coach had commented about this

2888
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:07,360
Speaker 1: several times because obviously when you beat Duke, oh yeah,

2889
02:29:07,400 --> 02:29:11,400
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. We get it. But you need

2890
02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:15,040
Speaker 1: to get the players safely off the court. You can

2891
02:29:15,200 --> 02:29:17,600
Speaker 1: hold back the fans if you know, just sort of

2892
02:29:18,440 --> 02:29:19,879
Speaker 1: hang on one second.

2893
02:29:20,400 --> 02:29:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you're not saying to stop it completely, You're

2894
02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:26,840
Speaker 3: just saying, let's be safe with the players first.

2895
02:29:27,080 --> 02:29:29,080
Speaker 1: I never felt the need to run onto a field

2896
02:29:29,080 --> 02:29:29,800
Speaker 1: to run on a court.

2897
02:29:29,879 --> 02:29:32,720
Speaker 3: I haven't either, But I also didn't go to schools

2898
02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:33,720
Speaker 3: I necessarily didn't.

2899
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I wouldn't.

2900
02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:41,680
Speaker 1: No, I've been actually UCLA games where UCLA students did

2901
02:29:41,720 --> 02:29:43,880
Speaker 1: that back in the day. It's not as easy now

2902
02:29:43,959 --> 02:29:47,080
Speaker 1: because the way well that's the other problem, right, there

2903
02:29:47,120 --> 02:29:50,240
Speaker 1: are certain basketball arenas well you can't that are right

2904
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:54,040
Speaker 1: for the taking, like they're just so close that it

2905
02:29:54,080 --> 02:29:56,160
Speaker 1: doesn't take a lot. Like you say, if you watch

2906
02:29:56,160 --> 02:29:57,920
Speaker 1: the video here of with the game at Wake Force,

2907
02:29:58,560 --> 02:30:01,439
Speaker 1: they had covered that court in terisha seconds.

2908
02:30:01,640 --> 02:30:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that was unbelievable. Nobody had a chance

2909
02:30:04,360 --> 02:30:05,560
Speaker 3: to get out of there. None of the players had

2910
02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:07,320
Speaker 3: a chance to get out of there even if they tried.

2911
02:30:07,240 --> 02:30:10,080
Speaker 2: Right, Which is the problem. That's that's the bottom line.

2912
02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:13,320
Speaker 3: It's like, you got to give it a second if

2913
02:30:13,360 --> 02:30:15,800
Speaker 3: you are going to be doing this, well, it brings up.

2914
02:30:15,720 --> 02:30:18,680
Speaker 1: The bigger question suddenly. We talked out during the show

2915
02:30:18,680 --> 02:30:21,200
Speaker 1: today just fan behavior in general. Right, we had the

2916
02:30:21,200 --> 02:30:24,400
Speaker 1: incident with a woman dropping the B bomb on Kevin

2917
02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:28,119
Speaker 1: Durant and he turned around and said what and then

2918
02:30:28,120 --> 02:30:31,240
Speaker 1: she she put her hand out like, hey, it's like

2919
02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:33,920
Speaker 1: my brother calls you that. We just like it's like

2920
02:30:33,959 --> 02:30:34,920
Speaker 1: an endearing term.

2921
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, no idiot, what are you talking?

2922
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:40,520
Speaker 1: And then the guys she's with saying, hey, by the way,

2923
02:30:40,560 --> 02:30:42,160
Speaker 1: I have a sports podcast.

2924
02:30:41,760 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 3: And then more of an idiot that one too a

2925
02:30:44,600 --> 02:30:47,160
Speaker 3: sports and then Kevin Durand just turns around and he's.

2926
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:49,480
Speaker 2: Like, what a waste of time? I just didn't you know?

2927
02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:52,600
Speaker 1: Well my point, well, he probably should have just ignored it.

2928
02:30:53,320 --> 02:30:56,279
Speaker 2: You know, you're right, that is that is probably the answer.

2929
02:30:56,320 --> 02:30:57,480
Speaker 1: But I don't.

2930
02:30:57,800 --> 02:31:00,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have him differently than

2931
02:31:00,920 --> 02:31:01,800
Speaker 2: the way Kevin Durant did.

2932
02:31:02,600 --> 02:31:05,760
Speaker 1: What he did was he gave this woman. No one

2933
02:31:05,800 --> 02:31:08,400
Speaker 1: would have ever known this if he had just walked away.

2934
02:31:08,440 --> 02:31:11,160
Speaker 1: No one's really paying attention. No one's going to capture that,

2935
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:13,879
Speaker 1: you know, with the B bomb being thrown on him

2936
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:15,720
Speaker 1: unless he reacts to it.

2937
02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:17,160
Speaker 2: You know, that is a good point because it's like,

2938
02:31:17,160 --> 02:31:19,600
Speaker 2: who was recording this? Who caught this?

2939
02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:22,440
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the other people were maybe you know

2940
02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:24,680
Speaker 1: videotape in the players coming out in the court. Here

2941
02:31:24,720 --> 02:31:26,600
Speaker 1: is Kevin Durant, you know, one of the biggest stars

2942
02:31:26,600 --> 02:31:30,440
Speaker 1: in the league, and yeah, all of a sudden he

2943
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:33,080
Speaker 1: turns around and they caught the audio. You could hear

2944
02:31:33,120 --> 02:31:34,640
Speaker 1: the woman saying the word.

2945
02:31:36,959 --> 02:31:38,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, I just don't.

2946
02:31:38,480 --> 02:31:42,400
Speaker 3: I don't blame the players for how they're handling things,

2947
02:31:43,560 --> 02:31:45,800
Speaker 3: because I think I would be like that too.

2948
02:31:47,240 --> 02:31:48,240
Speaker 2: He didn't even do anything.

2949
02:31:48,280 --> 02:31:51,080
Speaker 3: You're right, he gave her more attention, you're right about that,

2950
02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:52,680
Speaker 3: But he didn't do anything. He just turned around and

2951
02:31:52,720 --> 02:31:55,080
Speaker 3: was like what And then she quickly changed her tune,

2952
02:31:55,200 --> 02:31:57,400
Speaker 3: which is how most people are. It's like you talk

2953
02:31:57,440 --> 02:31:59,080
Speaker 3: a lot of smack, but then put the player in

2954
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:00,840
Speaker 3: your face and you're probably not going to say that again.

2955
02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:02,000
Speaker 2: You know, he was.

2956
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:03,959
Speaker 3: Walking away from you and you called him a B word,

2957
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:05,000
Speaker 3: like what are you doing?

2958
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:08,439
Speaker 2: What are you doing? And you got to stand.

2959
02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:12,960
Speaker 3: Play because Katie was like, all right, whatever, you're eardom.

2960
02:32:13,600 --> 02:32:17,880
Speaker 1: So one thing about my lengthy career is I have

2961
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:21,959
Speaker 1: said certainly derogatory things about many players coaches over my time.

2962
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:26,480
Speaker 1: I usually would pick on those that were universally loved. Yeah,

2963
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:32,240
Speaker 1: to be the anti voice, sure, And one one athlete

2964
02:32:32,280 --> 02:32:36,959
Speaker 1: in particular made me regret my words. You may have

2965
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:38,560
Speaker 1: heard of the guy. His name is Wayne Gretzky.

2966
02:32:38,840 --> 02:32:40,800
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, I think I know who that is.

2967
02:32:40,959 --> 02:32:43,600
Speaker 1: So early on I was on the station that was

2968
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:48,279
Speaker 1: carrying LA King's hockey when Wayne was with the LA Kings. Huh,

2969
02:32:48,320 --> 02:32:50,840
Speaker 1: And he had come from Edmonton where they had won

2970
02:32:50,879 --> 02:32:53,000
Speaker 1: four Stanley Cups and he never won a Stanley Cup

2971
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:56,600
Speaker 1: as an LA King. I mean he was he literally

2972
02:32:56,600 --> 02:32:59,359
Speaker 1: puts sort of hockey on the map. Next level obviously

2973
02:32:59,400 --> 02:33:01,800
Speaker 1: being the biggest are in the league by far, but

2974
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I was that guy like, I'm sorry, is there a

2975
02:33:04,360 --> 02:33:07,120
Speaker 1: Stanley cup that goes with us? So you know, and

2976
02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:09,560
Speaker 1: then people are critical of me, saying, you know, don't

2977
02:33:09,600 --> 02:33:11,160
Speaker 1: you dare, don't you dare?

2978
02:33:11,440 --> 02:33:11,760
Speaker 2: Yes.

2979
02:33:12,120 --> 02:33:16,000
Speaker 1: So years later, after he had retired, I was invited

2980
02:33:16,040 --> 02:33:21,400
Speaker 1: to this upscale wedding, and long story short, it turned

2981
02:33:21,440 --> 02:33:25,640
Speaker 1: out he was at this wedding, okay, And I was

2982
02:33:25,640 --> 02:33:29,520
Speaker 1: seated at a table at the post wedding reception with

2983
02:33:29,680 --> 02:33:32,120
Speaker 1: three NHL players. The guy that was getting married was

2984
02:33:32,120 --> 02:33:33,840
Speaker 1: a big hockey guy and he knew a lot of

2985
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:37,040
Speaker 1: NHL players, And so I'm sitting with these three other

2986
02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:39,640
Speaker 1: guys and I see Gretzky in the room and one

2987
02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:41,920
Speaker 1: of the guys said, hey, Hartman, can you get a

2988
02:33:41,959 --> 02:33:44,200
Speaker 1: picture of us? Of Wayne? Like I mean for them,

2989
02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:47,600
Speaker 1: He's God is in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And

2990
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm a little nervous about this. So they

2991
02:33:50,560 --> 02:33:53,959
Speaker 1: get up and I walk over and four of them

2992
02:33:53,959 --> 02:33:57,480
Speaker 1: are lying that, you know, to take this picture, and

2993
02:33:57,520 --> 02:34:00,520
Speaker 1: I take the picture and Wayne walks up to me

2994
02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:05,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, Hartman, Man, I have been one of

2995
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:08,560
Speaker 1: your biggest fans. I've listened to you forever, like you

2996
02:34:08,680 --> 02:34:11,320
Speaker 1: just do great. I love it. On the show and

2997
02:34:11,360 --> 02:34:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm like flabbergasted, and I'm like, oh, I'm like, can

2998
02:34:16,320 --> 02:34:19,640
Speaker 1: you come meet my wife? He goes absolutely, So he

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Speaker 1: I mean, like he was so nice. And not only

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Speaker 1: was he nice, he just hit me up, what do

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Speaker 1: you think of the Dodger?

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Like like like he was like harralling me, Like he's

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Speaker 1: like I get like one on one time with Hartman

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Speaker 1: to talk about sports and he's a big sports guy

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Speaker 1: and like he is like the nicest regular ever. Aw

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Speaker 1: And all I'm thinking is because he never once said

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Speaker 1: anything like man, I heard you rip me.

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Speaker 2: Or yeah, none of that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, all I'm thinking the whole

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Speaker 1: time I'm talking to the guys like see, I take

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Speaker 1: it back everything at that.

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Speaker 3: No, maybe he did hear it and he was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my goodness, Steve Hartman is talking about me.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: I was so flabbergasted. Yeah, Like I was like I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to say anything to him, obviously, but I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, I take back any bad thing I

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Speaker 1: said about you, super super super guy.

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Speaker 11: So and it's what you want, that's what you like

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Speaker 11: to hear. Now I've met other people confront me about

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Speaker 11: things I've said. In fact, there's one current major league

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Speaker 11: manager apparently who I always thought was a friend of

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Speaker 11: mine that wasn't so friendly the last time I saw him.

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Speaker 2: And you don't do you have any black eyes from it?

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Speaker 1: No, but I was. I got a few stares from

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02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:30,360
Speaker 1: this guy that I was like, am I missing something here?

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Speaker 11: Wow?

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna wrap things up. Coming up on

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Speaker 1: the other side. This is Fox Sports Saturday. There you go,

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Speaker 1: Steve Hartman and Monsey Belanos again here on Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 1: coming you live from the tiraq dot Com studios. Want

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Speaker 1: to thank the crew today, beefin doing a phenomenal job

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Speaker 1: throughout the show, even that breaking news, Eric b Enemy

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator at UCLA.

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Speaker 3: Wow, he's a He's a perfect blend for both of

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Speaker 3: us U C l A and Clippers.

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Speaker 2: He's a perfect blend.

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Speaker 1: Yes he is. All right, we're taking notes here, yeah, Patrick,

3041
02:36:14,760 --> 02:36:17,520
Speaker 1: of course, our steam producer just doing it all.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Patrick, I do what I can, Guys, Thank you.

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02:36:22,360 --> 02:36:25,720
Speaker 1: Are you digging this dynamic duo here? Patrick, always digging

3044
02:36:25,760 --> 02:36:33,000
Speaker 1: this dynamic duel. Let's go interesting there. Now we have

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Speaker 1: our new person on the board, Mary Mack. Mary Mack

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Speaker 1: is here. Now are you full time on this gig? Now?

3047
02:36:40,240 --> 02:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Because I know Loraina was here to help train you

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Speaker 1: and everything.

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Speaker 15: She's just like watching I've been like doing it, so

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02:36:46,640 --> 02:36:48,800
Speaker 15: she's like she's just coddling.

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Speaker 1: Me, right, I know that. But you feel very comfortable, right, Oh?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, for sure, So I got it.

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Speaker 1: Chris was here early, but he made a quick exit.

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Speaker 1: He did once he got the pizza and him he

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Speaker 1: was good.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm so upset. I got pizza before I came

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Speaker 15: in here.

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Speaker 1: You see, this is this We literally talked about that.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and then I walked in and I saw two

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Speaker 15: boxes of.

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Speaker 1: Pizza and I was I did the same thing. I

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Speaker 1: ate literally before we get because I have TV after this,

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Speaker 1: so it's like, all right, when am I got a

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Speaker 1: chance to eat?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I, you know, got something before I got here.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just any pizza. It's like the really

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Speaker 1: good stuff.

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Speaker 15: I was down the store. I even went to that

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Speaker 15: same spot. I have my small box. It's in the

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Speaker 15: like breaker right now.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So upset?

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Speaker 13: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no you should be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I was like, I just asked a fine hours for nothing.

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Speaker 15: I could have saved that for I don't know already dead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still good. Believe me, it carries out all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: what great job by everybody today, no question about that.

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Speaker 1: Good team, go team. So yeah, it's it is that

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Speaker 1: time of the year when we were really able to

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Speaker 1: talk about a lot of different things today and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, as far as the NBA is concerned, I

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Speaker 1: feel I want this to work for the NBA. I'm

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Speaker 1: just anxious to see the next page. Yeah, who is

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Speaker 1: going to be because again last night Wemby was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the whole line that he had over

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Speaker 1: you know, at five by five in terms of points, rebounds, assists, steals,

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Speaker 1: and blocks. He is he's as good as advertising, no

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Speaker 1: question about that.

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Speaker 2: But he's living up to the hype.

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Speaker 1: But again he's going to have to win championships.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Luckily for him though, he is part of the Spurs,

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Speaker 3: which is a winning organization.

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Speaker 2: I mean haven't won in a while, but you know it's.

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Speaker 3: There, the coaches there. He really could be the face

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Speaker 3: of the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting about the Spurs when you think about

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Speaker 1: their dominance and their five championships, is the biggest star

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Speaker 1: was never the face of the NBA, and that's Tim Duncan. No,

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan never wanted that the big fundamental. He didn't

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Speaker 1: need it, you know, he wasn't He wasn't flashy in

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Speaker 1: any way. And I remember for years I used to

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Speaker 1: talk about his career as opposed to Kobe because they

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Speaker 1: coincided and for much of their careers. The bottom line,

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Speaker 1: Duncan had a better resume, more championships at one time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kobe caught him with five more MVPs, more

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Speaker 1: finals MVPs, and nobody was putting Duncan in the same

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Speaker 1: conversation as Kobe. So it's a combination of a lot

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Speaker 1: of things. I mean, Lebron and Steph have the factor

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Speaker 1: on top of the fact they're dominant players and win championships.

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Speaker 3: And with Steph, you know what I think it was

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Speaker 3: for him, I think it's just that people see him

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Speaker 3: so relatable. Oh, like, you were not supposed to be

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Speaker 3: doing this, You were this small dude that nobody expected you,

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Speaker 3: and so he won everyone over because he is so relatable. Well,

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Speaker 3: Lebron was always supposed to be this, you know, since

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Speaker 3: he was fifteen years old.

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Speaker 1: But even that's even more impressive and because when you

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Speaker 1: were annoyed as the chosen one, as Lebron was as

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Speaker 1: a high school player. First time I was ever had

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Speaker 1: his name actually mentioned on my show. I was interviewing

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Speaker 1: Sonny Vcerrol back in the day, and I asked him

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Speaker 1: who's the best high school player? Thinking he's talking about

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Speaker 1: a senior. He says, he's a freshman crazy out of Akron, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: and his name is Lebron James, and I had never

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Speaker 1: heard the name. For him to live up and exceed

3130
02:40:22,040 --> 02:40:24,359
Speaker 1: that hype is amazing.

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Speaker 2: And have no real drama in the two.

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Speaker 1: He's a family guy. I mean they try to make

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02:40:30,720 --> 02:40:32,800
Speaker 1: a big deal about the decision and all this kind

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02:40:32,840 --> 02:40:33,359
Speaker 1: of stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's the worst.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, how bad was it? Then he left

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02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:39,000
Speaker 1: to come back and actually get the job done by

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Speaker 1: winning a championship. All right, much more coming up. Don't

3139
02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:45,879
Speaker 1: you go anywhere, cap it right here? This is Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.