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Currently, thank you, Oh Choe whoa number ten 79 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: a state? 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: Now? 81 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: You were number ten last week when you went over 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: to Ireland and I think and Georgia tech beat you. 83 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: You come home, you're still number ten and you lose 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: at home to Boston College. 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Now they're unacceptable. 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: O and two. 87 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: Twenty eight thirteen losers to Boston College. Let me see 88 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: if I can get this name right, dj uyan Galilely 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: Did that say it right? 90 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: O Joe? Just say dj U dj u. 91 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 5: D a matter fact, dj unbelievable because that's that his 92 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: performance to night was unbelievable. 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, Choe, I mean you do realize he was 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: at Clemson before Trevor Lawrence got there. 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Trevor Lawren's been in the legue like three four years. Yes, 96 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 5: huh eighty. What does that tell you went to I'm 97 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: not mistaken. He's he's on his thirteen. This is his 98 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 5: third third team. 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: Uh, Clemson, Oregon State, now FSU. That performance wasn't good enough, 100 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: O Joe. You watched the game talking to us about 101 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: what you saw. 102 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: I'm upset. 103 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: It makes me sick as a resident of the state 104 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 5: of Florida. I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. The best football team 105 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 5: in Tallahassee is Florida A and M performances like tonight. 106 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 5: It's why coaches get fired. 107 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: Dju. You have to play better. 108 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 5: You can't compete at any level, whether it's pee wee, 109 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 5: junior high flag football, college, high school, in the NFL. 110 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 5: It comes down the most important position on the field, 111 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 5: the quarterback position. The team goes as a quarterback goes. Tonight, 112 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 5: it just wasn't good. It wasn't good. I'm not sure 113 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 5: if he's the best fit. I'm not sure if he's 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: the best option. But if Florida State wants to compete 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: the rest of the season, they're gonna have to make 116 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: a decision at the quarterback position. Unless magnific magnificent, Oh 117 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 5: my goodness, magnificently, the quarterback turns around, turns it around 118 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 5: in some way shape, form of fashion. His confidence right 119 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 5: now on his confidence is shot. His confidence is shot. 120 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: Shout out to Brian my shout out to Bill O'Brien 121 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 5: on having a Boston College team that was ready to play, 122 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 5: especially defensively. I love I love the quarterback. Castinellos. Did 123 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 5: I say that right? Castellos Costallo Castanos. 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: You know he played. 125 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: He played some good football. He played some good football. 126 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: Ran hard, caught the ball well out of the backfield. 127 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 5: Listen on third down, unc Thlorida State was three for fourteen. Man, 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 5: well you're gonna lose, hey, listen, three for three for fourteen. Yeah, 129 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 5: like on a video game. If you're playing n C 130 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 5: double A College twenty five, you can go better than 131 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 5: three for fourteen, I'm expecting. I'm thinking about the Florida 132 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: States of the old. The Florida States are the old 133 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 5: with the Charlie Wards and the Peter Warwicks and and 134 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: and the bull Wars and the Marvin Snoop menace. 135 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Man. They got they got to be upset. They got 136 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: to be upset. 137 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: Fans that are people that are fans of Florida State 138 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 5: have to be upset. 139 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: You can't. 140 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: You can't have that kind of performance for one way 141 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 5: out there in Ireland against Georgia Tech and then come 142 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 5: home in your home stadium uncle and play like that 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 5: like these are the kind of performances by a team 144 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 5: that get head coaches fired. Somebody gonna have to answer, 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 5: because it doesn't get any easier. I forgot looking at 146 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: the schedule. I forgot who. I forgot who Florida State 147 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: has next. It might have been but might be Memphis 148 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: or something like that. Yeah, they need they need a 149 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 5: game where they can string things together. 150 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: They weren't in sync. 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 5: The quarter back, in the receivers to night, everybody, every 152 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 5: seemed like almost every ball was off. 153 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: There was no chemistry. 154 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 5: Seemed like they hadn't even practiced before, like easy, layup stuff, 155 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: comeback routes, curl routes, sitting in his zone, ball to 156 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 5: the left, ball to the right, ball hitting the floor 157 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 5: before get to the receivers. 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know, don't I don't know. 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on from what I saw. 160 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 5: God damn famu quarterback right now, matam, he can come 161 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 5: right now and do better than what I just saw 162 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 5: the night. 163 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: Come on, man, mister easy throwing a seven route on 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: the gold line. He had a situation, they switch it. 165 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: How do you miss that? 166 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: Throwing out of bounds and you. 167 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Had to set up for a field goal. That's a 168 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: touchdown that changes the game itself. 169 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent of the balls thrown out of 170 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: bounds are incomplete. So I don't know if he thought 171 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: that was you know, it was Canada in the field 172 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: was a lot wider than what it was. 173 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: But he struggled. I mean he struggled. I mean, you know, 174 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: he played well. 175 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: If you look at his freshman year, I thought the 176 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: kid because he played so well. 177 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: He had a couple of four hundred yard games. 178 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, his freshman year, I thought the 179 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: man and this kid's still on this trajector. He's gonna 180 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: be a top five pick. Big kid, that's like six 181 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: four sixty five two forty, big time on. But all 182 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: the intangibles, all the intangibles. 183 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 3: I think the thing is now. It ain't no. 184 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: There's there's nothing wrong losing your job to treilor Lawrence. 185 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: Treil Lawrence turned out to be the number one pick 186 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: in the first pick in the draft. There ain't no. 187 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: It's just like jaalen Hurst losing his job to Tour 188 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: Tour was a top five pick. Ain't no shame in 189 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: that old Joe. Ain't no shame of losing your job 190 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: to a dog. Yeah, but okay, you didn't like the way. 191 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: Now you come in and you're still struggling, and the 192 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: new guy, Klipnick, I think he takes your job. And 193 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: now you go to Oregon State and you don't find 194 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: happiness there and you don't play well there. You come 195 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: to Florida State and it's two games in. There's a 196 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: recurrent theme here. You're the only common de nominator of it. 197 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: If you say, okay, Clemson, Oregon State and Florida State 198 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: the only common the nominator, is it's you. 199 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, his confidence is shot. His confidence is shot. 200 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 5: I'm not sure who FSU plays next, but he needs 201 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 5: to string some things together starting to practice. It all 202 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: starts with whoever's calling the players out there of Florida State. 203 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: The bill is confidence up. 204 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 5: Start him, small swing pass, you know, quick smoke, just 205 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 5: to get him in rhythm. Get him in rhythm, to 206 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 5: get his confidence back, because if he's going to be 207 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 5: the starter, if he's going to be the starter for 208 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 5: the rest of the season, for the remainder of the season. 209 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Since you know, they got Mike. 210 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 5: Norble, got a new shot, because if you put up 211 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: another performance like that, well the ad gonna come calling. 212 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: Sure's gonna come calling. Somebody finna come knocking, right, You 213 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: had you score thirty seven, thirty seven if I think 214 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: maybe thirty seven points a game last year. Well, they 215 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: had Jordan Travis who was outstanding before he hurt his leg. 216 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: And that's probably one of the reasons they got blown 217 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: out in the game against Georgia. You know, they was 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: complaining about not making the college football playoffs. Alabama got 219 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: their spot. No shame because Alabama went down to the 220 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: SEC Championship and beat Georgia. Georgia HAF hadn't lost the 221 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: game in two years and went back to back the 222 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: national championships. Looked like they were going for a three 223 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: pet So I don't think anybody shot that Alabama jumped 224 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: Florida State considering they had lost their starting quarterback. Had 225 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: the starting quarterback still been in there, o Jo, I 226 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: think that'd have been a very difficult sell. 227 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: But they knew what the backup. They weren't gonna even 228 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: come close. 229 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't think they thought Georgia was gonna thump them 230 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: like this, but it happened. But when you go on 231 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: the road and they were favored to beat Georgia Tech, 232 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: Georgia taking a lot better than I think people thought. 233 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: With that being said, Florida State, you went thirteen to 234 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: o last year. You return, I get it. Jordan Travis 235 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: is gone, Keon Coban is gone, and you probably lost 236 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: the I think you lost the defensive lineman. 237 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: Also. But you you should be better than this. 238 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the polls had your ranked ten, they had 239 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: you opportunally had your ranked top ten for a reason, 240 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: and when you came out and they haven't played well. 241 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: But it comes down to the quarterback. The quarterback hasn't 242 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: played well. He hadn't played well in a very very 243 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: long time. 244 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: Oh Joe. 245 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 246 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: And with that being said, it ain't it's it's it's not. 247 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: It's not looking good for Florida State now. Mike Norvel. 248 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: They chose Mike Norvel over time time, that's time, the 249 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: Albam Battle. He played at Florida State, had a story 250 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: career there, and they chose Mike Norvel. 251 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: Could you imagine could you imagine if Prime was at 252 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: Florida State? 253 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: Man? 254 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the recruits they would have? 255 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: Could you imagine how he could have turned that program 256 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 5: around into being like the seminole football teams of the 257 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 5: early nineties the two thousands. 258 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. Okay, the quarterback play is sub par, 259 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: it's not up the par. 260 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 5: But there was a time Keon Coleman is gone, there 261 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 5: was always somebody next in line. When somebody leaves Alabama, 262 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: there's somebody next in line, When somebody leaves LSU, there's 263 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 5: always the next. 264 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: Dog in line. I'm not sure what happened. 265 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 5: At what point did we lose recipes when it comes 266 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 5: to the Florida teams, FSU UIM and the Gators. There 267 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 5: was a time when the when the big boys left, 268 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 5: there was always another dog in line to keep it rolling. 269 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 5: So if the quarterback position is subpar, there was always 270 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 5: some dogs a receiver that can make up for the 271 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 5: lack of quarterback play or lack of consistency at the 272 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: quarterback play, because they were just that good. Not everybody 273 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: spread out all over the place. Everybody spread out all 274 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: over the place. I look at some of the young 275 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 5: bulls down down in Ohio State. Jeremiah Smith, I think 276 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 5: I said his name right. He went to Ohio State, 277 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: come right from Shamanad, you know, Jerry Judy. All all 278 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 5: the receivers that should I would like them to stay 279 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 5: home and play for their home team. 280 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: Most of them. 281 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Imagine all them stayed home and played. 282 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: Look at a Marik Cooper, Mark Cooper left. Most of 283 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: these guys left. Everybody left. So now let's say, okay, 284 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: you can't get a quarterback, but then you always have 285 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: those dogs in line at the receiver position. You know, 286 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: all we have to do is just put in his 287 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: hands or put it in the area. Just put the 288 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: ball in the vicinity and they would do the rest. 289 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: They'll make it work. It ain't the same the moment. 290 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: Had you got. 291 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's gonna have the same type of success, 292 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: but I think it had been a very similar situation 293 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: to when Kirby Smart went back to Georgia because Kirby 294 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: played at Georgia and it's like, okay, I got came home. 295 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: That had been a very similar situation with Prime going 296 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: to Florida State. But you know, whatever, they made their decision. 297 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: They wanted to go with Mike Norvel and you know, 298 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: I think he went. He would he went thirteen and old. 299 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: Last year the quarterback gets hurt, they go. I think 300 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: he went. What they win his first year eight and five, 301 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: maybe in four. So it's not like but when the 302 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: standard is what Florida State is, especially what coach Bowden 303 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: not the last couple of years withstanding, is that there's 304 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: an expectation level in these schools. You know, there's an 305 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: expectation level that as you said like this, you know 306 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: with coach Bouden in the eighties and the nineties, you know, 307 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: they they got the they had great players. All the 308 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: Florida schools got a lot of the Florida players. They 309 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: weren't going to Alabama, they weren't going to Ohio State. 310 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: They stayed at home. Now they're starting to spread out. 311 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: They're going to Ohio State, they're going to the University 312 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: of Alabama, they're going to Georgia, they're going to Michigan. 313 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: And so now all of a sudden, Hey, look, it 314 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: used to be OJO. If you could just recruit the 315 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: state of Florida, you're gonna be straight. Now you go 316 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: to Ohio, get your coach, you know, go to Midwest 317 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: and get you a couple of little, big old alignment. 318 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: But if you can recruit the state of Florida, you 319 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: are gucci. Yeah, well, it's getting hard and harder to 320 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: recruit the state of Florida because they're not they got 321 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: the pros like Alabama, like Ohio State, like some like Georgia. 322 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: You see Georgia every year churning out defensive players. 323 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: You see Alabama every year turning out offensive and defensive players. 324 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: You see Ohio State. 325 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: You get Chase Young, you get the Bosa brothers, you 326 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: get those stringer receiver going out of there, you get 327 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: the offensive lineman. 328 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: So they start to see that level. 329 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: Hell Florida, when the last time y'all put some put 330 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: multiple players in the first round in the NFL, Miami 331 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: win FSU. 332 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: So now O Joe is starting to. 333 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: Dissipate a little bit and it's getting harder and harder 334 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: to recruit because they see Amrik Cooper man Mark Cooper 335 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: went top five, They see Jerry Judy, they see all 336 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: of these other receivers going and, uh, what's the guy? 337 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: What's the other guy that? Uh he was at jackson 338 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: was at Atlanta? Did he goes to Jacksonville nights at Tennessee? 339 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: I think he's a Florida kid, really from Florida, Alabama? 340 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm not. I'm not sure. I'm not 341 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where cal from. I'm not sure. 342 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm not. 343 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 344 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: You gotta do better than this old Joe. The quarterback 345 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: has to say better. I mean, if he doesn't, you're 346 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: not gonna win me. Now the ACC is not what 347 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: it once was. You basically you got Clemson. Uh, we'll 348 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: see what Louisville's gonna be. I don't know if they 349 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: got to know the name on the schedule this year, 350 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: but DJ twenty one forty two, two seventy two, one touchdown, 351 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: one reception, fifty percent in college it's not good. No, 352 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: it's not good in college. Fifty percent in college. Fifty 353 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: percent used to be like, fifty five percent was really 354 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: good in. 355 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: The NFL under the old rules. 356 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: Now, if you're not completing sixty sixty five percent damn 357 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: seventy percent of your pass in the NFL with the 358 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: way the rules are and the way to field of space, Yeah, 359 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: you trash you definitely, You're definitely not good in college 360 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: if you're only completing fifty percent of your passes. 361 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: But they gotta do it. Damn they do. 362 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: F s. 363 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: You do play for Notre Dame at Notre Dame. Wow? 364 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 5: Wait, wait, who does Florida stay play next? They play Memphis? 365 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, they play Memphis. What went they 366 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 5: played Memphis next week? 367 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Or do they do? 368 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: They have they had the fourteenth at home? 369 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Man, listen, but if they lose? What if they lose 370 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: the Memphis? Huh? 371 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: So they got they gotta buy so okay, yeah, they 372 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: got some decisions. Uh they say, really is from Lada 373 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: Beale somebody in the chest they really Okay, Okay, I 374 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: ain't even know real from the crib. Yeah, so oh 375 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: he lose the Memphis? Oh billy nap. They might get 376 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: him up out of there. 377 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, ain't looking. 378 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 5: It's not looking pretty because in order to beat Memphis. 379 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: I met Mike Novel, but Billy Navy to get on 380 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: the ball too. As a matter of fact, let's go 381 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: ahead and transition. The biggest disappointment, though, has been the 382 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 2: Ciminos front seven, expected to be one of the best 383 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: get for the line in the country. Fu was carved 384 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: up for one hundred and ninety yards five point two 385 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: yards to carry and it's open and lost in Dublin 386 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: and they were, oh, oh oh, y'all, I'm looking at 387 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: this as you just put the stack. Guess who the 388 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: number two ranked quarterback? The number one ranked quarterback coming 389 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: out due with Bryce Young, DJ was number two. 390 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: C J. 391 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 2: Strid was number three when they was coming out. When 392 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: they were coming out of high. 393 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: School, right, what DJ went the high school? 394 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: Last? 395 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: Where do you go to high school? Ast? Oh, that's 396 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: that's in Jersey. 397 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: Isn't it. 398 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: California? He went to Saint John Bosco. So all three 399 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 2: of them from California. 400 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: He went to the same John Boscow. 401 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, all three them from California. Yeah, Bell Bell, Bell, 402 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: fly on California. And CJS from Rancho Cuckamonga damn man see. 403 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: Hugh was six six four and a half two hundred 404 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: and forty six pounds. CJ was sixty two and a 405 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: half one ninety four. Bryce Young was five to elevel 406 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: one eighty three. Bryce was number one, CJ was number two. 407 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: I mean DJ was number two and CJ was number three, 408 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: and Bryce Young won a Heisman Trophy win number one overall, 409 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: CJ had a great collegiate career. 410 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: Let me get that joint. 411 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: CJ had a great collegiate career with number two overall, 412 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not sure. I'm not sure he's gonna 413 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: get drafted, O Joe. Unless something turn turns around. 414 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: The only thing that can turn it around is himself himself. 415 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 5: The coaches can only hide so much. The coaches can 416 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 5: only hide so much. At some point, you got to 417 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: you gotta step up and play ball. Yeah, at some 418 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 5: point you gotta step up in playball. My whole mentale 419 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 5: in general, I don't play the quarterback position. How can 420 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: I make my coaching job easy? How can I make 421 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: the players around me better? How can I do that? 422 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 5: As a quarterback? I want to be able to make 423 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 5: those play calls as easy as possible, being able to 424 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 5: make all the throws, whether it be short, whether it 425 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: be in immediate, whether it be deep balls. 426 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: How do I do that? By being efficient? 427 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: I could call all the players by walk, But if 428 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: they oh, Joe, I can give you a job. But 429 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: if you can't operate the equipment, what am I supposed 430 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: to do? 431 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: That's that's all confidence. I'm looking at a young fellow 432 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: there at night, playing with no confidence. 433 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: So what happened at Clemson? Okay? You lost this confidence? Okay? 434 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: What happened at Oregon State? Okay, let's just say he 435 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: lost his confidence? Okay at Florida State? At what point time? 436 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: Is it him? O? 437 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: Joe? Yeah, that's what That's what I'm saying. 438 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: And then what happens is you're playing against competition that 439 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 5: I'm assuming it's a little better. You know, at Clemson, 440 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 5: I'm not sure if he was there with Trevor Lawrence 441 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 5: when he is at Clemson, well, hell, you know, you 442 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 5: know you're not starting over him. 443 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what was here? Uh? 444 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: What was he was he? There? 445 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: Was he there with Trevor Or? He was he came 446 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: in after Trevor got there? Why the hell would you 447 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: go there? Have Trevor there? 448 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen. I have no idea that. 449 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: Got he from the time he was like seventeen, he 450 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, this is gonna be the number one pick. 451 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: It's the same thing as Matthew Stafford, right, Like he's 452 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: gonna be the number one pick of the draft. The 453 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: way he can spend the football, the way he can 454 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: throw the ball, he gonna be the number one pick. 455 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 456 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: His first year he came in, he was in the 457 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty class, so he came in. Trevor was probably 458 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: so that many Trevor was a junior because Trevor was 459 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: started as well. He played right away. So yeah, he 460 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: did red shirt right, Okay, damn man, ok club Nick 461 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: and then at at Oregon State. 462 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 5: At Oregon State, he he couldn't beat out whoever the 463 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 5: starter was there. 464 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: I forgot young Bull that was there lest he played. 465 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: But the thing we did play. 466 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: Oh ya. 467 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: If the thing is if you struggle throwing the ball, 468 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: why the hell you going to Oregon with that weather? 469 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: It rains, it's sleep, it snows, it's cold, it's windy. Hey, 470 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: you gotta stay your answer in the south. 471 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: Damn. Well, he's in he's in the south nine. He 472 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: right here, sun shines. 473 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: Oh missing missing the easiest throws like they had looked 474 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: like they had never practiced before. 475 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: Oh so o, Joe, has it ever dawned on you? 476 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: On dawned on you? He might not be it. 477 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 5: That's why I said his confidence is shot to be 478 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 5: coming out of high school and be ranked number two, 479 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 5: in between in between c De Stroud and Bryce Young. 480 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 5: There's something about you that everyone saw six four two 481 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 5: forty that the sac. 482 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: I know, I know and at the quarter ofback position. 483 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: The first thing. 484 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 5: Once your confidence is shot, it affects everything else, everything else. 485 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 5: That's why. That's why at the highest level in NFL, 486 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 5: you have to have a very short memory. As a dB, 487 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: you got to have a short memory. You get beat 488 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 5: boom onto the next play. As the receiver, you drop 489 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: a ball, you know what, boom fuck it onto the 490 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 5: next play. 491 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: What happens? If you got confidence and you're not good, 492 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: then what do you do? 493 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: I don't hey, listen, I don't know nobody that's not 494 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 5: good that got confidence. 495 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: Oh you could be You can have confidence and not 496 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: be good at something. You absolutely can you have that 497 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: absolutely can be good at something. All the comments in 498 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: the world. 499 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 5: You got to have some type of self awareness. If 500 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: you have self awareness, there's no way in hell you 501 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 5: not good and confident at the same time. The two 502 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: and two, the two, the two don't even go together. 503 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: But see, that's the thing with an athlete. 504 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: Sometimes our greatest h our greatest attributes, is our greatest liabilities. 505 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: Also it gives us for fuse, man, I'm really everybody good, 506 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: oh Joe, everybody was good at high school. If you 507 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: go to college, right, guess what, you go to the NFL, everybody, 508 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: everybody for the most part, eighty five percent of the 509 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 2: players was All Conference, All American, All something at some 510 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: point in time. If you were in the NFL, you 511 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: was all something at some level, All State, all Conference, 512 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: all this, all that, All American, won this awards, You 513 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: was something. And sometimes it just come down on show, 514 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: you know what. A You just go to a level 515 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: and that's that's it. That's far as you meant to go. 516 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: So you think you think, you think DJ is hit 517 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: the ceiling. 518 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: You think as a quarterback, I think that might be 519 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: a possibility. That just made that and that's okay. Everybody 520 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: else there are a million kids that come out and 521 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: go to college. Every year all men you know may 522 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: go into the NFL. 523 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 5: Oh wait a minute, what if this is the issue. 524 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: What if the fact that he doesn't have the supporting 525 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 5: cast that a Bryce Young or see this drowd has. 526 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: Do you know what comes out of Clipson? They were 527 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: playing for national championships. I mean, I don't know. I 528 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: don't I don't A but A it's tough, it's hard. 529 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like what I. 530 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: Saw, But I get what you're saying. 531 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: When a guy comes out is heralded as he is, Yeah, 532 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: with his say he has all the physical attributes, everything 533 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: that you can look at and says, that's what a 534 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: quarterbacks you look like, six foot four and a half 535 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty plus pounds, big thirdy body, can 536 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 2: make every throw on the field. And so when you 537 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: look at all the measurables, that's it. Yeah, you saying 538 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: to yourself, Man, give Bryce Young that body. Give let 539 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: Brice Young be six foot four and a half two 540 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: instead of five five eighty five, five eleven, one hundred 541 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: and eighty pounds, give him that body with his makeup, right, 542 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: But everybody, I mean, God didn't give Lamar ain't give 543 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: Tom Brady Lamar Jackson legs. 544 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, listen, you gotta work. I can't give you everything, 545 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: o Jo. 546 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 547 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: So you want Steph Curry to be able to be 548 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: like Lebron six foot nine can come down here and shoot. 549 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: The ball and shoot the ball like that. How's that fare? So? 550 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but I definitely thought 551 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: after watching him for a couple of games because when 552 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: he came in from Trevor Lawrence, Oh Joe, he threw 553 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: for like four hundred yards because I think Treuvor Lawrence 554 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: got hurt. Then treumb Lawen miss a couple of games, 555 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: and he came in, Ojo, and I'm talking about he. 556 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: Was on fire. 557 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 5: Huho Again, look look at that's why I said. That's 558 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 5: why I said that. The supporting casts. 559 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: You heard me. I guarantee you. 560 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: I'm right. 561 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 5: The supporting cast, you out there, the supporting cast the 562 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 5: savior every time. Now and when you got when you 563 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: got them dogs surrounding you, they will save you every time. 564 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: But it guess what those dogs probably said, Man, you 565 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: hurt my chance to get to the league, because now 566 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 2: you gotta look like we can't play, right, Damn. 567 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: I know one thing. 568 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: The best collegiate football team in Tallahassee is Florida A and. 569 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: M mm hmm. 570 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 5: Matter of fact, fam, you might be Florida State based 571 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 5: on what I saw tonight. 572 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: That's how I'm feeling. 573 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: Because you definitely. I remember going to camp my rookie year. 574 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: Man oh toe man. The quarterback was so bad. I 575 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: was like, Man, I'm not going with you in the 576 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: one on one. I'm backing up. You're not going to 577 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: get both of us cut because I see the way 578 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: you throw it. You're gonna get cut. They're gonna have 579 00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: me out here. 580 00:28:59,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: People. 581 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: You gonna have coach reading to fake it out here. 582 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: I can't do ish. Oh no, mm hmm, nope. 583 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: Man, Hey, listen, he got a week. 584 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 5: He gotta he got a week to get together, get 585 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: it together, get your confidence back. 586 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: I know, I know that's what it is. Young bull 587 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: gotta get his. 588 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 5: Confidence back, and he needs he needs he needs them 589 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: receivers and receivers got to help him out. 590 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to help him out. 591 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: The play caller, whoever's calling the plays, you have to 592 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 5: understand his strengths and weaknesses. You got to know what 593 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 5: your receivers are good at. What they can and what 594 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 5: they can't do. Make it easy for him. If you gotta, 595 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 5: if you gotta, if you gotta, dumb down the playbook, 596 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 5: dumb it down, and once he gets his confidence back, 597 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: then you can open the play book back up. O. 598 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: Yo. He missing easy throws though, O Joe, Yeah, I know, 599 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know. 600 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: He throws swings in the dirt. He that's seven route 601 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: in the ends. On Joe, you won't get an easier 602 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: throw that I could have either. 603 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 1: Lie. 604 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: Hey, I ain't played quarterback in forty year. I could 605 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: have completed that one right now. 606 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate. It's something fortunate I want. I'm gonna 607 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: tell you one thing. Players get coaches fired now, Yeah. 608 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: Fired. 609 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: FSU wasn't the only Florida team that struggled this Weekendicators 610 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: opened the season at home against rival Miami Miami the Kings, 611 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: and it wasn't pretty. They lost forty one to seventeen. 612 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: Billy Napiers should probably focus on his team and not 613 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 2: taking shots at the Florida fans. Uh, this is what 614 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: he said, Oh Joe, we got to become more we 615 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: got to become a more consistent team. And if we 616 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: focused on those things and not necessarily what some guy 617 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: in his basement it said, you know rules Central Florida 618 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: on social media. 619 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: Then we got a chance to get better. 620 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: He talked about the fans. 621 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: He said, the fans you know, criticized him. Say they 622 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: and you know their basement. 623 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 5: Oh hey, coach, Hey, well they only own one. 624 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 625 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: If all losses aren't the same, Ojo, if one thing 626 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: you get beat, okay, Oh Joe, we lost twenty seven 627 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: to twenty three. 628 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: We lost thirty one twenty four. 629 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: Man, you get beat by twenty four and it wasn't 630 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: back close, Ojoe. 631 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, the Hurricanes ain't no slops nack. 632 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 5: The Hurricanes ain't no sloughs. They bounced, They bouncing back. 633 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 5: That god damn cam Ward. 634 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: Oh he played unbelievable. He was sensational. 635 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 5: But that boy, cam Ward, I'm telling you that's the difference. 636 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 5: When you have a quarterback, you could damn you could 637 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 5: damn to do anything. Yeah, he was out there slicing 638 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 5: and dicing, slicing and dicing. 639 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: But at some point in time, Ojo, you can't. 640 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: You gotta love, you gotta accept responsibility, he said, I 641 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: mean the coach, I gotta do a better job of 642 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: coaching them up. I got to do a better job 643 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: of putting them in position and making sure we understand 644 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: what we need to do in order for us to win. 645 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: You can't blame the fans. You can't blame the players. Now, 646 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: if you want to get when you want to get 647 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: into a situation on show, you go into a meeting 648 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: room and you and I both know we played at 649 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: a lot of different levels. But the coach might say 650 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: publicly and what he say pribably is two different things. 651 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: And we understand. 652 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: That that effort is not good enough. That effort was 653 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: not good enough on either side of the ball. I 654 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: expect us to play better. A lot of the assignments 655 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: that we missed we had gone over and over and over. 656 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I couldn't coach. Hell, we 657 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: don't practice something all week. We send the first fifteen 658 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: and guess what happened though, show the first fifteen. Somebody 659 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: if it up. Now, we don't practice this, you knew it. 660 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: Saturday night, we go over it again and guess what 661 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: we talked about it before we go out there? First 662 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: fifty eight. This is what we got. Blah blah blah. 663 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: And then somebody mess it up, and so I get it. 664 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: If you want to critique your players in the meeting, now, 665 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: if they keep infit it up, there's something going either 666 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: there's a disconnect with the way you teaching it or 667 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: the way. 668 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: They're receiving it. 669 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: Now, if you're teaching it correct, now, you need to 670 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: get players that can receive it better. But if you're not, 671 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: you need to get a coach or coaches that can 672 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: communicate what some people are. You know me, I was 673 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: a visual learner. You just couldn't tell me what to do. 674 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: I needed to see it, O Joe. Now, once I 675 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: saw it, I got it, and then I understand what 676 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: you were trying to tell me and what I needed 677 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: to do. 678 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: But I needed to see it. Everybody doesn't learn to. 679 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: Say and so we got to find out a way, coaches, 680 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: we need to find out a way to get the 681 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 2: information that we're trying to disseminate. We need to get 682 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: the players to understand it. So what what is being 683 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: lost in communication? What is being lost in translation? 684 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: But what happens if the team you're playing regards to 685 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 5: how way you coach them up. Let's say brother Napier 686 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 5: coached up the Florida defense. He coached up the Florida offense. 687 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 5: They know what to do. They've been in meetings all week. 688 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 5: You study film and you watch film on the Miami 689 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 5: Hurricanes on what they were going to do, their tendencies offensively, 690 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 5: and it's these defensively. But what happens if they just 691 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 5: better than you. What happens is that if their players 692 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 5: are just better than us, which is why the score 693 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 5: that the score at the end of the game look 694 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 5: the way. 695 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: It looks that that that what happened. 696 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: If they were there, they were just better. They were 697 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: able to ask the better. 698 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: That happens, though, Joe sometimes, and that's why it's easy 699 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 2: for you to accept it got just better. 700 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 3: It's just better that bigger, faster, stronger. 701 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: Their coaching even even they're being coached better, even if 702 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: I coach at my best, because they have superior athletes. Hell, 703 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: I could have rolled Secretariat. It wasn't nobody gonna beat him. 704 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: It wouldn't. 705 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't running at. 706 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: No disrespect to Ron Turcott, Right, but that horse when 707 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: you win by thirty one lins, it ain't it ain't 708 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: the jockey, right, it's the horse. Yeah, it's that just 709 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 2: not cold mm hmm. So sometimes it's just the team 710 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: that just better. Their players are better than yours, their 711 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: coaches are better than yours. A lot of times that's 712 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: Alabama won. Alabama won because they had better players, better coaches. Yeah, 713 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: Miami decage when they were winning, they had better players 714 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 2: and better coaches. 715 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, it happens. And you know it's funny. 716 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 5: Sometimes if your players are good enough, your players can 717 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 5: overcome bad coaching because they're that that that much better. 718 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: But then when you have subpart. 719 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: You better have superior players to overcome bad Oh. 720 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah in a situation like that 721 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 6: what we saw at the Olympics, because when they got down, 722 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 6: it's like you heard Katie and a lot of guys say, 723 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 6: well we stop running plays. 724 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: We just know we need to do get the ball ahead, 725 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 3: make the right play. 726 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: Well, we got superior athletes against what we're what are 727 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 2: the teams we were playing? Again, you can get away 728 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: with that, But what happened when you don't. So you 729 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 2: have inferior athletes and you have inferior coaching, you probably 730 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: get what you got get You get exposed. A lot 731 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: of times, that's o Joe, you know what a lot 732 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: of times when you see these teams, these D one teams, 733 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 2: and they play the FCS teams or they played the 734 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: HBCUs and you see score a bit seventy seven to 735 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: three and seventy seven seven. That's what that is. That's 736 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 2: what that is. No matter how no matter how down. 737 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: Georgia is not beating Alabama seventy seven seven, right. Ohio 738 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: State is not beating Michigan eighty to ten. 739 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: Right. But when you get. 740 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: That level of an imbalance with talent and coaching, you're 741 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: gonna get scores like that. Loryda got Miami, Okay, they 742 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: get a reprieve. They got Samford. Then they got Texas 743 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: A and M Mississippi State, UCF at Tennessee, Kentucky at 744 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: home Georgia. They got Georgia. And it used to be 745 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: the world largest cocktail party. Don't know what they call 746 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: it now. They called the office part. They might not 747 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: even call it anything now. And they're at Texas l 748 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: s U at home Old miss Home, Florida State on 749 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: the road. 750 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna get ugly. All all them games gonna get ugly, 751 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: except it was one. It was one one. 752 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 3: They got the bulldog. 753 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 5: Wait, hold on Stanford or Sam Bamford. Okay the Bulldogs 754 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 5: that Yeah, that that that That'll be a game to 755 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 5: get your confidence up. 756 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: That'll be a game to get get the team morale going. 757 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 5: Hell, Sanford coming coming in and and and funk around 758 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 5: in shock the world. Now like Appalachian State did Michigan 759 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 5: that one time that year. 760 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: You never know. Oh you talking about Apples State. 761 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 762 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly also called out his flairs last night. He 763 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 2: said his very first word, this is the first time 764 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 2: since I've been here that I'm angry at my team. 765 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: And then he went on to say, it's unacceptable for 766 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: us not to have found a way to win this 767 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: football game. 768 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. It's crazy. 769 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 2: Later, when he talked about USC's Miller Mars, he also 770 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 2: said he all played our quarterback, Garret Tiger's quarterback Gary Nussmeyer. 771 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: He was twenty nine to thirty eight, three hundred and 772 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: four yards. This is Kelly's third consecutive season opening loss. Now, 773 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: I remember when they got thumped last year by Florida State. Yes, sir, 774 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: he was upset his team because he said, we're not 775 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: the team that we thought he was. Now, look, I'm 776 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: not gonna sit here and say, I'm not the biggest 777 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly fan. I sometimes I go back and forth, 778 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: but I think he might be on the table being overrated. 779 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 2: I don't like how he handled the situation. He left 780 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 2: Cincinnati right before the bowl game to go to Notre Dame. 781 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: He did the same thing to Notre Dame to go 782 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: to LSU. So he's not one of my favorites. Yes, 783 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 2: and sometimes you know, well, you know he turned the 784 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: program around. Well, why the hell you think they paid 785 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: him all that money? That's what he's supposed to do, dude, right, 786 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Ojo, Man, if I pay you ten thousand 787 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: dollars to fix my car, man, Ojo got it running. 788 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: He was supposed to do. I paid his ass arm. 789 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: Of the lag. 790 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely. 791 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 5: But again I think, if I'm not mistaken, he says 792 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 5: he the upset of his players. 793 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, he also took accountability. 794 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, Ojo, you lead with that. You 795 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 2: don't say after you called out your players and then 796 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: say I gotta do a better job of coaching. You 797 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: say I gotta do a better job of coaching, and 798 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: you lead the other part out until you get behind 799 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: closed doors. 800 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. 801 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: You can't leave. Oh, I gotta do a better. You 802 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: don't read the team. You know what I'm saying? It 803 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: was them? 804 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: Is it? 805 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 3: Hold on? 806 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: If they're if they keep doing the same thing you 807 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: talked about, now, what is it? There's a there's a 808 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: there's a there's a disconnect here, right, So the wires 809 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: are getting cross because why aren't they understanding what you're 810 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 2: saying or are you saying in a form in which 811 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: they can understand. That's your job as a coach when 812 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: you say eat them on the sideline and they feel 813 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: like they've got the game one? 814 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 3: What are you doing? Mm hmm, it's either. 815 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: You right and see. 816 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 5: The one thing about l s U, the one thing 817 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 5: about LSU and Brian Kelly is they're not in the 818 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 5: same situation like the Florida's. They're not in the same 819 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 5: situation like the Florida States. See, they got them dogs 820 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 5: over there, Yes, so they gonna hit the switch. They 821 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 5: got them dogs a quarterback, they got them dogs, that receiver, 822 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 5: They got them dogs that at the deep. All the 823 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 5: skill positions, and you know what the interior offensively and 824 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 5: defensely the meat potatoes that got damn team. 825 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: Oh they got. 826 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 5: Them, So he don't really have much to worry about. 827 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: They gonna flip the switch. 828 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if you notice. 829 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 2: But Georgia's in THENCC, so it's Alabama, so it's Texas, 830 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: so it's Oklahoma. 831 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 3: Oh he got up to worry about. 832 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but the thing all the teams you name, 833 00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 5: let's exclude that. 834 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 1: Let's excool Georgia. Yeah, George is on on some other ship. 835 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 5: But LSU is going to be able to compete, going 836 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 5: to be able to compete with everybody you just named, 837 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 5: everybody you just named. 838 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 2: But at some point in time, you keep blaming your players. 839 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: They don't like uh no, coach you. 840 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and one thing and one thing about it. 841 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 5: They're not gonna fold on you. 842 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: You know in the NFL. 843 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 5: In the NFL you do some shit like that, but 844 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 5: your players will fold on you. Un he that they 845 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 5: will fold They will fold on you. Now that's what 846 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 5: I tell you. I said, what's the biggest different? Okay, 847 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 5: you dealing with a grown ass man. Yeah, he got 848 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 5: a mortgage, he got a wife. A lot of them 849 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 5: got wives, got kids. You think you can talk to him. 850 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: Like you cared an eighteen or nineteen year old, because 851 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 2: the eighteen to nineteen year old is trying to get 852 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: where that grown ass man is already at. And a 853 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 2: lot of these grown ass men make more than the 854 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: coaches they were fighting. And you know what out of 855 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: coach Oh, I ain't tell you what about with you. 856 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 2: I'm telling you what I know. I'm telling you what 857 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: I know, like that coach swing. Yes, I've seen player 858 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: swing on coaches for being disrespectful, and y'all talking about 859 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 2: soft that's even for you to say. 860 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 3: But you gotta be careful how you talk to. 861 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: A man that is a grown man, and he ain't 862 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 2: finna let you talk him in that kind of way, 863 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 2: all that mofo that s o. B Hey, the way 864 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: coach Brian and back in the seventies and eighties, and 865 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: the way those Lombardes and coach Langend, Coach Lander never cursed. 866 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 3: He was very he was very biblical. 867 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: But you can't talk to me, Okay, Okay, I was 868 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: saying like that, Okay, yeah, ye, who do. 869 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 3: You think you're talking to? Body? 870 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: They'll slide the chairs back quick on your ass. Mary Mary, 871 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: put you. 872 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: Daddy, put you daddy your face on the sideline, see player. 873 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: I mean they getting the little shoving matter they yet, 874 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 2: but before they had all. 875 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 3: Them cameras, right, you know, the punch of cod dead 876 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: in his faith. 877 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: For being there and go down. Now, yeah, so you 878 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: go down. 879 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 2: So that's what that's the biggest difference. You gotta understand. 880 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 2: That's why Coach Saban it was hard for Coach Saban. 881 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: Now he didn't have a quarterback. 882 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: In the NFL. 883 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 5: I heard some stories about him with the Dolphins. It 884 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 5: was funny, yes, some funny stories. 885 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: Yes, really, you can't talk. 886 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: You can't talk to a grown man like you can't 887 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: a kid because they're listen because they feel you can 888 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: get them to where they need to be. Well, that 889 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 2: grown man is already there. And you think you could 890 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: say whatever you want, like you couldn't. 891 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 5: Okay, Hey, I think it was crowd or crowded when 892 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 5: Nick Saban was that uh was with the Dolphins and 893 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 5: then they went to practice, right, yeah, and if if I, 894 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 5: if I might have a story, Cracker, I might be 895 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 5: a little awful a little bit. And Junior say I 896 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 5: think Junior say I was at the time, and god damn, 897 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 5: Junior s came out to practice with sneakers on, like 898 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 5: real practice with sniggers on, and Nick Saban Missus told say, I, 899 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 5: you know. 900 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: May need to go in there and you know, put 901 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: your clise on or something like that. 902 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Here, Junior. 903 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 5: Was on that team also, and Junior was like, Okay, Buddy, okay, Buddy, 904 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 5: man ain't do ship man practicing has god damn and 905 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 5: it's goddamn I think. Shannon, yeah, crowded told us it 906 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 5: was something something like that. Man, I'm talk about. I 907 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 5: was in tears laughing when Nick Saban thought he won't 908 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 5: go come in there and talk to them boys any 909 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 5: kind of way, No. 910 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 2: Sir, it's it's look, players for the most part want 911 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 2: to be coached. But there's a fine line between hard 912 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: coaching and being disrespect right right. 913 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: That's why you got to know your players. You got 914 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: to That's why. 915 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 5: That's why we was on tour and we talked to 916 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 5: Raheem Marris and we talked to Demico Ryans. I said, 917 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 5: how do you differentiate between who you can coach hard and. 918 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: Who you have to pacify? I call it past that's 919 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: the fine. You gotta pat him on the back to 920 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: get to be able to get what you want to 921 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: get out of them, because especially not to day's game. 922 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: You you got players making twenty twenty. 923 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 3: Fifty five million. 924 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: Are you gonna talk to them any kind of way? 925 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: And they're making that kind of money? Man, all right, 926 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: let's see it. Yeah all right. 927 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't seen players fight. I don't seen coaches fight. 928 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: Uh, coaches might play a players fight, coaches playoffs fight players. 929 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 2: It's a different mentality in that locker room. That's why 930 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: I believe, like, mentally, what what you have to do 931 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: because I don't care who it is. It might be 932 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 2: a wide receiver, it might be a d lineman. Da're 933 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 2: gonna let you disrespect them. 934 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 3: It's not. 935 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 2: It's just not and sometimes and sometimes you got to 936 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 2: take a l but you're gonna gain a level of respect. 937 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 938 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 2: See, I'm aid. Like my grandma said, well, I can't 939 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: stop you from doing it, but I break you the habit. 940 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 2: I can't stop you, but I bet you I'll break 941 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 2: you the habit. I bet you ain't gonna want to know now. No, 942 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm good. Ah man, you gotta just just like I said, 943 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 2: guys want to be coached ojo. But sometimes coaches think 944 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: because you're in an authoritative position mh or I can 945 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 2: talk to him any kind of you know you can't. 946 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: And I understand you're the coach. You can get me fired. 947 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 2: You can get me traded on everything. But I tell 948 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 2: you what, if you disrespectful, I'll get traded, I'll get fired. 949 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 2: But I tell your ass up on the way out 950 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 2: the door, I bet you that. 951 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 3: I like coaching. And I told Brian Brian. I told 952 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 3: Brian Billy. 953 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 2: He's like, what hey, I said, coach, oh, coach, be 954 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 2: hard and if you want to send a message. A 955 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: lot of times my messages through me. He would get 956 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: on me. He knew I could take it. I didn't 957 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: mind it. Just don't curse me. He cursed me one 958 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: time I had a conversation with him. You're like, I'm 959 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: sorry eighty four I never never again again. We have 960 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 2: we had a great relationship. I think sometimes, don't yo. 961 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 2: What happens is is that a coach has a perception. 962 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 2: When Mike was first there, Mike was the quarterbacks coach 963 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: because to the raiders, and you know, he had to 964 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 2: fall him out. He ended up coming back. He's the 965 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 2: quarterback coach. So when he gets there, I'm mainly a 966 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: special teams player. Right, he leaves and come back. Now 967 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 2: I'm the best tight in the league. That's not how 968 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 2: he remembered me. Right, So we kind of butted heads. 969 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 2: But what he failed to realize what motivated me wasn't money. Yeah, 970 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm a praise guy. Just tell him I did a 971 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 2: good job. And that's all I need to hear from me, Right, 972 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 2: I don't need you to tell me, Hey, you know, hey, 973 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 2: you can be this. You can make a lot of money. 974 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: You know you can do. I don't need that. Just 975 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: tell me I did that. I did a good job 976 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 2: eighty four. We can win with that. I appreciate you 977 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 2: get That's all I need. And so once I left 978 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 2: and went the Baltimore and when I came back, he's like, 979 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 2: you know you want to bring I said, Mike, I 980 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 2: don't need to see it. Look like I was in Denver. 981 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: I know what the facilities are like, I know what 982 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 2: you're like. I had to have had a conversation with 983 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 2: mister Bolan mister Bowler, had them say, look, I don't 984 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 2: really put my foot down, but hey, are you coming back? 985 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 2: I said, Mike, you know me, you know what I'm about. Yes, 986 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm about business. I want to win. I prepare myself 987 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 2: to win. I try to do a great job of 988 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 2: getting other guys to get on board, to buy in 989 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 2: what you're saying, what you're selling, because I don't need 990 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 2: to see the facility. All I need to know do 991 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 2: you want me to come back? Because if mister Boler 992 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: want me to come back and you don't, I'm not 993 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: coming right, I'm not. 994 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 3: Eighty four. We should have never let you go. Okay, 995 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 3: let's do this. 996 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 2: I had more money other places, but I thought it 997 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 2: was only right that I go back and finish my 998 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 2: career in Denver, where it also I. 999 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 3: Would have never been happy. 1000 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: Even if I took more money from Seattle, had the 1001 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 2: opportunity to go to the Raiders, it wouldn't be right 1002 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 2: because in my heart, that's not where I wanted to go. 1003 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to go finish my career in Denver. But 1004 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 2: I just needed to hear him say it right. Once 1005 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 2: he said that, I was cool, Oh y'all, I was like, Okay, 1006 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 2: let's do this. And plus I didn't want to put 1007 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 2: my kids. My kids were still young, and man, have 1008 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 2: to get my kids. 1009 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: To fly and travel Wayne cross. 1010 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then even to my mom because at that 1011 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 2: point in time, my mom had retired, so my mom 1012 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 2: would fly that. My mom would fly from Chicago because 1013 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 2: you know the sport. But after nine to eleven that stopped. Well, uh, 1014 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 2: that stopped, but she was still because their mom would 1015 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 2: walk them through the airport, you know, send them down 1016 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: un a company minor. But after that point I would 1017 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 2: fly my mom there. They would walking to the gate 1018 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 2: that my mom would meet him at the gate and 1019 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 2: then they would come to Denver or my sister would 1020 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 2: do something like that. 1021 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, you got to just be carrelling you. 1022 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 5: Hey, hey, we were We was told we were totally 1023 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 5: different too. Like when I think about it, the the 1024 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 5: coaching style that you like and you accept, like I 1025 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 5: was completely I was completely different. 1026 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: I like, I like that hard coaching and where I'm 1027 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: based on where I'm from and where I'm raised. I'm 1028 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: kind of used to it with the cursing and the. 1029 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 5: You know, and that that get me, that get me 1030 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 5: going when I had you. But listen, when I had you, 1031 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 5: let me take my glasses off so you understand how 1032 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 5: serious I am, because you know, I'd be playing around 1033 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 5: all the time. When I had Hugh Jackson in Cincinnati, 1034 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 5: and I wasn't playing up the par and he get 1035 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 5: the mother if he get the cursing understanding, that's I know. 1036 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 5: I can get Chad going with a motherfucker, what the 1037 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 5: fuck you're doing? God damn it, Come on now, let's 1038 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 5: go man, shoot well you Oh that shit just got 1039 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 5: just got me. I don't know, I don't know how 1040 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 5: to explain it. It just got me, got me going 1041 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 5: and got me motivated because I have laughtes. 1042 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes I play down to my competition. And all 1043 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: it took was for you to to throw to say 1044 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: something to me in a in an encouraging way, but 1045 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: just add a little curse word to it. You know, 1046 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: you know when you're cooking, you cook your chicken and 1047 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: you add your seasoning. 1048 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 5: Just add a little see I see. I see curse 1049 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 5: words as sentence enhancers, and it just gets me going. 1050 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,240 Speaker 1: It's weird. It's weird. 1051 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 5: So I love and enjoyed that type of coaching because 1052 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 5: it made me want to not only prove myself, but 1053 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 5: to make sure I don't embarrass you based on all 1054 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 5: the coaching and goddamn film study and meetings we didne 1055 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 5: did it all goddamn week. Let me go out here 1056 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 5: and make sure I do my goddamn job for me, 1057 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 5: o Joe. 1058 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 2: I never played down because I know where I was playing, 1059 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 2: because Mary Porter was in their condition. All of a sudden, yes, 1060 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,439 Speaker 2: and I yes. And so that was my motivation. You, 1061 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 2: because I looked at everybody that I faced, Well, you 1062 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 2: trying to get my grandma out this house. You're trying 1063 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 2: to get my kids out of the private schools. You're 1064 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 2: trying to take food off their table. You trying to 1065 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 2: get shouting to go back to Glenville with no running water. 1066 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 2: And oh no, bro, yeah, you couldn't see you and 1067 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 2: you and you thought completely different. That's the only thing 1068 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 2: completely different. Yeah, that's the that was. That was my 1069 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 2: motivation from the time. I can remember me and my 1070 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 2: brother talking about it when we were sitting on those 1071 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: pine trees. Young pine trees are called saplings, and we 1072 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 2: built that many of them mofos over and my grandmother said, boy, 1073 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 2: y'all need to stop beating them saplings. Right, That's all 1074 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 2: we talked about. That's all I thought about. That was 1075 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 2: my motivation. And so every time I looked at somebody, 1076 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 2: Oh you're trying to get granted by that house. Huh, okay, 1077 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 2: or you're trying to get my kids up out, so 1078 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 2: now you trying to feed your kids, Well, my kids 1079 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 2: are Now. If somebody kids not gonna eat, mine gonna eat, 1080 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what you gonna do about your other 1081 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but somebody kids not gonna eat 1082 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 2: and it's not gonna be my mine gonna eat. 1083 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I like that. I like that something 1084 00:52:59,400 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: like that. 1085 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 1086 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, it's it's so funny. 1087 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 5: I think about the coach, the different coaching styles based 1088 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 5: on based on where you're from. Everybody's different. Anybody, anybody 1089 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 5: in the chat. I know somebody in the chat that's 1090 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 5: of age. 1091 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 3: Y'all. 1092 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 5: Remember, I know y'all saw the Year of the Bull. 1093 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 5: You never saw the documentary The Year of the Bull? 1094 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: Did Miami Northwestern where Teddy Bridgewater's coaching, now I have. 1095 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 3: I didn't see it, but I know that's where he's coaching. 1096 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: Okay, oh man, listen man. 1097 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 5: The Year of the Bull is a coaching style that 1098 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 5: we all grew up, we all grew up with. And 1099 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 5: obviously the coaching he caught flat for, you know, for 1100 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 5: the cursing and and the hitting. 1101 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: It the hitting the players and all that. 1102 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 5: Man like that type of coaching and that style of coaching, 1103 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 5: it probably wouldn't work today. 1104 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: It won't working. 1105 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 5: Today's you get fired right away. 1106 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: They grabbed your yeah, yeah, yeah, hitting your upside of 1107 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 1: the head, like yeah, for sure. 1108 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 5: It's just different now, it's just different, like like that 1109 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 5: type of coaching is just oh man, I love that. 1110 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: Shit, I love it. 1111 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 2: The Dolphins have not won a playoff game since acquiring 1112 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill in twenty two to the two trade with 1113 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, but Tyreek said today he thinks this team 1114 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 2: is a better position for success than the ones the 1115 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 2: Dolphins put on the field the past two years. This 1116 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 2: is the best team we've had since I've been here. 1117 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 2: Great time to be alive. We're all excited. We've got 1118 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 2: a lot of weapons, a lot of playmakers on this team. 1119 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 2: Everywhere everyone is on the very edge of their seats 1120 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 2: waiting for this moment. Oh Joe, yeah, you believe they're. 1121 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: Godamn right, God damn right, got damn right. 1122 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 5: The Dolphins is in a better position to not only 1123 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 5: win a playoff game, but get to the second round. 1124 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 3: Why they're in a better position. 1125 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: To one one tour. I'm gonna tell you why let 1126 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,720 Speaker 1: me stay with me? With me tour. 1127 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 5: We're gonna get a different side of tour because for one, 1128 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 5: he's gotten paid for two, you know what you get 1129 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 5: when you have a happy quarterback that's satisfied. 1130 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: You know what, I have a franchise that believes in me. 1131 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: How do I know the franchise beliez in me? 1132 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 5: Because I got two hundred something million, five year whatever 1133 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 5: the numbers may be, I don't know them correctly, but 1134 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 5: you understand what I'm saying. They believe in me. So 1135 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,720 Speaker 5: I think you're going to get the best version of tour. Obviously, 1136 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 5: he was able to stay healthy last year. You're gonna 1137 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 5: stay healthy this year. He has what one, two, three? 1138 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,439 Speaker 5: If this is third year Mike McDaniel's offense or fourth? 1139 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: What year? Is this a third? Third year Mike McDaniel's offense. 1140 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 1: He's familiar with everything, his supporting cast, running game, Tyreek Hill, 1141 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: obj who probably won't come back to them maybe week four, 1142 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 1: week six. You got Waddle. Offensively, they're juggernaut. 1143 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 3: Hell to deal with. 1144 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: Huh. 1145 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 2: They had Moster, they had a h oh mostly ah, Yeah, 1146 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,760 Speaker 2: they had them. They had ty Reek, they had Wattle. 1147 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 2: But what about defense, Chubb towards ACL he's coming back 1148 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 2: off of that, Philip toward the coming back out that 1149 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 2: they got rid of Zavi Howard, they got their linebacker. 1150 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, there has to be an identity on every team. 1151 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 5: There's an identity. It's either the defensive side of the 1152 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 5: ball or it's the offensive side of the ball. It 1153 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 5: just so happened as opposed to the two thousands, when 1154 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 5: the Dolphins identity was their defense, Sam Madison, Zach Thomas, 1155 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 5: Patrick Surtain. It's different now, yeah, right, yeah, Brock Murray. 1156 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 5: Now their identity is on the offensive side of the ball. 1157 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 5: So now it comes down to playing good defense. 1158 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 3: If you don't mind me asking what you're gonna do 1159 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 3: with the weather get bad? 1160 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: I know you know what, That's always been. 1161 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 5: Always been an issue for the Dolphins, even even sin 1162 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 5: Dan Marino, even in Da Marino. 1163 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: How do we play better in cold weather? But hold on, 1164 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: let's think about this. 1165 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 5: Was the time there was a game where they should 1166 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 5: have been Buffalo, where they could have had a home 1167 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 5: field advantage and they wouldn't have to take their ass 1168 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 5: that got in Kansas City. 1169 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken? Am I right? Am I wrong? Yeah? 1170 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: That's the game you have to win. They started out fast. Yeah, listen, 1171 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: I believe. 1172 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 5: Them, and I'm not I'm not being biased because I'm 1173 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 5: from Miami. I'm just I'm very understanding on what the 1174 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 5: Dolphins and Mike McDaniel have to work with. Offensively, it's scary, yes, 1175 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 5: especially with tour Is healthy. 1176 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 4: It's scary. 1177 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: Now, defense, that's. 1178 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 3: Something they gotta do. Hey, I realize that's a part 1179 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 3: of that's the part of the team, right. 1180 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Can you Hey what 1181 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 5: they got brother Holland, they got Brother Ramsey. Yeah, they're 1182 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 5: gonna be They're gonna be all right. 1183 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 3: Who's gonna be the other side? 1184 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: Huh who? 1185 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 5: I don't know who is the other I'm not sure. 1186 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 1187 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm expecting you to know that. I expect you to 1188 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 2: give it it. So do the Dolphin make the playoffs 1189 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 2: over the Jets and the Bills? 1190 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, come on that. You know that the Dolphins 1191 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: gonna be in the AFC East. 1192 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 5: And that's no disrespect to Aaron Rodgers, that's no disrespect 1193 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 5: to Garrett Wilson, that's no disrespect the Bryce Hall, no disrespect. 1194 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 2: But come on, yeah, what about what about disrespect to 1195 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, to who Buffalo Bills. 1196 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: I like Josh Allen. I like him until he shows 1197 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: me he can stop turning the ball over they named 1198 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: Come on now, come on now. I like Josh. I 1199 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: like the Bills period. 1200 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 2: Hell. 1201 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: I like Kean Coleman. Yeah, I like Ken Coleman. Can't 1202 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: he come in and do it? 1203 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 5: Can he come in and do it Stefan Diggs did 1204 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 5: for Josh Allen as a rookie, a reliable target all 1205 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 5: the time. I understand what happened in the playoff game 1206 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 5: on the drop on the drop d ball. 1207 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: I know it happens. 1208 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 5: The game is about moments, and in that moment he 1209 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 5: dropped the ball. But can he come in and be 1210 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 5: a consistent target, a reliable target for Josh Allen? Yeah, 1211 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 5: that's an unanswered question, especially when it comes to the 1212 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 5: receiving corps. 1213 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 1: Is there somebody that he can rely on every time? Now? 1214 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: I think the onus is on Josh Allen. 1215 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 5: Now more pressure is on Josh Allen because you don't 1216 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 5: have that boy to go to every time. I mean, 1217 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 5: Keon Coleman is that dude? I'm not sure if he's 1218 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 5: It's different as a rookie, it's different. Can he come 1219 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 5: in and have that type of impact that Justin Jeffersons had? 1220 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 5: Can he come in and had that type of impact 1221 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 5: that Jamar Chase hadn't? We don't know yet, right, We're 1222 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 5: gonna find out though. 1223 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 2: Uh, Kendall Fuller, I think you with the with the Commanders. Wait, 1224 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 2: Kendall Fuller from the command the commander any played any 1225 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 2: played with any play with the Texans too. 1226 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 3: I think he's on the other side of a Jay 1227 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 3: Ram Now. 1228 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we got a nice little veteran, nice little 1229 00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: veteran presence. 1230 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 2: Lamar Ja actually was asked about his relationship with other 1231 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league, including my homes and this is 1232 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 2: what's his answer. 1233 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 3: Take a listen to the sound. 1234 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. 1235 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 3: I don't have a relationship with him. I don't think 1236 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 3: I have a relationship with any quarterback. 1237 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't take anything from any anything from him. 1238 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 6: I just my game. 1239 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 3: But he's a great quarterback. 1240 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 1: See that. He's a great quarterback. He had Accolive's improve it. 1241 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: But man, he's just the meetings, meet things happen on 1242 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: the field that makes it seem him successful. 1243 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 2: See that. 1244 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 3: Oh Joe, you like that. Lamar doesn't have a relationship 1245 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 3: with any other quarterback, and that's cool, that's cool. 1246 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean the relationship is when you're on the field. 1247 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 5: Ain't like they don't be hanging out. And you know, 1248 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 5: Lamar has a different type of lifestyle than other quarterbacks. 1249 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 5: It's just we ain't going out hanging out drinking beers. 1250 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 5: And you know, they do their own thing. They do 1251 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 5: their own thing, and I mean he's right there. The 1252 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 5: relationship they do have when I see you as respect 1253 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 5: for what you do on the field and for your team. Yeah, 1254 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 5: outside of that, outside of the game of football, you know, 1255 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 5: the boys don't hang out, man, unless you're at events. 1256 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 5: You see each other at the s He's maybe you 1257 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 5: see each other at Pro Bowl and that's the extent 1258 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 5: of the relationship. 1259 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 3: I think, Uh, they're they're they're two different places. 1260 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is married, about the brought to bring about 1261 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 2: to welcome a third child, Lamar is singing. If I'm 1262 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 2: not mistaken, I don't think he has any kids. A 1263 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 2: lot of times quarterbacks moved like quarterbacks when they're married. 1264 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Peyton were pretty cool, but both were married, 1265 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 2: had kids. Dan Marino and and and and and and 1266 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 2: and John. 1267 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 3: They were cool. They both were married and had kids, 1268 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 3: and so. 1269 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 2: It's not as not abnormal that Lamar is in this 1270 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 2: place and Mahomes is in that place and they're not. 1271 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, like I said, the quarterbacks now, 1272 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 2: they're they're young, so I don't know who's married and 1273 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 2: who's singer, who's got kids and stuff like that. 1274 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 3: But I don't think. I don't think. 1275 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 2: I think Lamar is like, he's living his life. He's 1276 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 2: doing what he's doing, and I don't have a problem 1277 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 2: with that. 1278 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 5: It's yeah, they completely You gotta understand, Lamar and Patrick 1279 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 5: are two totally different sides of the spectrums, two totally 1280 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 5: different sides of the spectrums, and two different lifestyles all 1281 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 5: together outside of the game of football. So it's it's 1282 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 5: it wouldn't even even didn't even it, wudn't even look 1283 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 5: right hanging together. They have nothing in common outside of 1284 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 5: playing the quarterback position, and they're black. Can you imagine 1285 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes hanging out with Kodak. It's just, man, I 1286 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 5: can't see Pat Mahomes and Popino chilling. 1287 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 3: It's just it's just nah Oh, Lamar, Lamar It's been 1288 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 3: reported that Lamar has the daughter. I didn't. I didn't know. 1289 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 3: Like I said, I don't like for me o jo. 1290 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 3: I address guys what they do on the field. 1291 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: You know. 1292 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes we might sneak a little joke in there about Tyreek, 1293 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 2: about about the situation that he had going on, or 1294 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 2: like a stretch where it seemed like every other day 1295 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 2: he was welcoming a new child. 1296 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 3: But for the most I don't. I don't got nothing 1297 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 3: to do with me. I don't. I'm talking about that. 1298 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 3: I'm talking about what you're doing. 1299 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Tyreek trying to beat me so bad. 1300 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 3: He got you. He's trying to be Nick Cannon. 1301 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 6: The volume