1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: The Michael Arry Show is. 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 3: On the air. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Penny has been found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: The jury deliberated for more. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Than twenty four hours across five days before reaching this verdict. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: Every re did you gather in perfect palmy signed by 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: side on my joinky? 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: Oh look, why don't we. 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: Time? 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: It's like everybody else has vigilities. We need something black vigilities. 12 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: That's right. 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: People want to jump up, ain't choke us and kill 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: us for being loud. How about we do the same 15 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: when they attempt to oppress us. You're right, I'm tyay. 16 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 2: America hates black people and we see it from that jury. 17 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: C and. 18 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: SiGe my side keep. 19 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: Why not? 20 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: Then hour twenty minutes later they said not guilty. These 21 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: wonderful white people, I hope they celebrate their Christmas while 22 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: the Nearly family is praying and asking God for comfort. 23 00:01:50,840 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: Then in America, never that Daniel Penny has not, at 24 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 5: least as of now, volunteered to be the rights next 25 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse to vigilante heroes of the 26 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: right who are beloved and famous among Republicans solely for 27 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 5: killing people who they believe need killing and getting acquitted for. 28 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: It at trial. 29 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: Armed conservative must be heavily armed and empowered to kill 30 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: at will with your handgun, your AR fifteen, or even 31 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 5: with your bare hands, anyone who makes you feel threatened 32 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 5: or uncomfortable anywhere, anytime, at your front door and your driveway, 33 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 5: driving by a Black Lives Matter rally, or on the 34 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 5: terrifying scary black man Field New York subway. 35 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: And the people who. 36 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: Tend to need killing just happen to be black or brown, 37 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 5: or suffering from mental health crises, or white but just 38 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: a little too cozy with BLM, and killing them is 39 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 5: not just your right Republican citizen. 40 00:02:53,880 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: Doing it makes you a hero. So Jermany Lee's father, 41 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Andrea Zachary, reportedly it was not involved in his son's life, 42 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: probably a contributor to the problems that his son had. 43 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: The father has a responsibility to their child or they 44 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: grow up to be something that is a public nuisance 45 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: that leads to such a case. Think of all the 46 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: resources that are having to be spent because Andre Zachary 47 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: didn't do his job. But as is often the case, 48 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: he's probably figuring he can make some money out of this. 49 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: So there he is outside the courthouse. He's the long suffering, 50 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: grieving father who reportedly was not involved in his son's life, 51 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: so he didn't care that his son was terrorizing the 52 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: subway every day and being arrested for beating people up. 53 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: But now that someone stopped him from doing it and 54 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: his son died in the process, Oh, now he would 55 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: like to incite a riot. 56 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 6: I just want to say, I missed my son. 57 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: My son didn't have to go keep this. 58 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 6: I didn't have to go cu this ei though. 59 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: It hurts, really really hurts. What are we going to do? 60 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: People? 61 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: What's going to happen to us? 62 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: Now? 63 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: Had enough of this? 64 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 6: The system is rigged. 65 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: Come on, people, let's do something about this. 66 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: What are you going to do about this? The system 67 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: is You're right, the system is rigged. Ninety nine percent 68 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: of Americans never bother another person. They get up in 69 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: the morning and go to work, and while they're at work, 70 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: or percentage of them, we'll have someone bust in the window, 71 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: kick open the door, break through the back, and steal 72 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: from them, whatever race or ethnicity that person may be. 73 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: Almost all men, and some percentage every day, will come 74 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: home to a house that they couldn't stay there and defend. 75 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: It's been ransacked, and the things that they've worked hard 76 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: for will be gone or broken. That is true. And 77 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: then once home they will have to deal with the 78 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: sense of invasion and intrusion and violation. And that person 79 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: will never be caught, and if they are, they won't 80 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: be charged. That's the soro'sda is. That's the plan here 81 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: create kaowk, chaos and mayhem in this country. And it's working. 82 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: By the way, to his credit, the Soro system is working. 83 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: We are in a complete free fall. Nobody trusts each other. 84 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: People have had to take the law into their own hands. 85 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: And this is phase two. This leads to civil war. 86 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: This is what they want. This is not a defect 87 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: in the system. This is part of the design because 88 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: eventually people are gonna stop this. And then that same 89 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: guy it comes home, he goes to bed that night 90 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: and he hears somebody outside rummaging through his car. There's 91 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: truck stealing his tools. Not because they want his tools, 92 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: they don't use tools. Their thieves. They take it to 93 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: the pawn shop, sell to somebody who also have their 94 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: tools stolen. So they'll have to go buy tools because 95 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: their tools were stolen. So everybody gets paid except for 96 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: the poor guy who needs tools to do work because 97 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: he shows up to work every day busting his fingers up. 98 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Back hurts because he works for a living. And then 99 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: you've got grown men that don't have jobs and don't 100 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: have any intention to have jobs, and never have. They've 101 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: been criminals from day one. They've been criminals since they 102 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: were young men. And that's not my fault, and that's 103 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: not your fault. That is the fault of some people. 104 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Make a baby, raise a baby. Now, their school system 105 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: is probably pretty crappy, but God help you if you 106 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: try to give them the choice to go to an 107 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: alternate school, because that too, is racist. They have to 108 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: stay stuck in that school because there's somebody black that's 109 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: benefiting from that local school. Because they're an administrator and 110 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: they don't want the school to be any good. They 111 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: have no incine, they don't want any accountability. We're going 112 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: through this in Houston right now. The state had to 113 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: take over the local school district. The president of the 114 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: school board is serving time in prison right now. She 115 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: was also the chief of staff to the local county commissioner, 116 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: he's also a black or taking bribes or project like 117 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: this is the Sorrow's Plan put into practice a king 118 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: of Dan and this other guy, Michael Barry. I want 119 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: to live in the world of complete and utter honist. 120 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's supposed to be a terrible thing to 121 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: find out that a white person is a racist. They 122 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: don't like black people. But there are a lot of 123 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: black people that don't like white people. Plenty of them 124 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: are serving in government, plenty of or university professors, plenty 125 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: of them are presidents of universities. Nobody should have to 126 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: like other people. I want to make that clear. You 127 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: don't have to like me or anybody who looks like me, 128 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: or anybody who looks like anybody in my family. You're 129 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: not required to. That's dumb. What you can't do is 130 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: act on that basis unfairly unfairly, So nobody gets mad 131 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: at the head football coach that he doesn't pick the 132 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: fattest kid on the team who also has the slowest 133 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: forty time to be the quarterback. Nobody's mad at him 134 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: for that. He gets to make that decision, right, because 135 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're going to live 136 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: with the consequences, win or lose, you better put the 137 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: best kid out there. Nobody is required to like other people, 138 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: but there has to be consistency. If a black person 139 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: is going to call for riots, notice how many people 140 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: won't say a word about it because everybody is afraid 141 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: of being called a racist. Sometimes people will tell me 142 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: they'll send an email it's a chain of where they 143 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: got into an argument. Or they'll say, you know, somebody 144 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: at their workplace said Michael Berry's a racist, and they'll say, no, 145 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: he's not. His wife's from India and his kids are 146 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: from Africa. His wife is brown, his kids are black. 147 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: And I say, no, no, no, no, no no. Do 148 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: not defend me on the basis of the skin color 149 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: of my family members. I'm either a racist or I'm not. 150 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: As each person gets to decide, we each get to 151 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: pass judgment on other people. I either am or I'm not. 152 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: But the skin color of my family members is not 153 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: a get out of jail free car. Because the minute 154 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: you buy into that nonsense, oh, he can't be racist 155 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: his kids are black. Well what about the next guy 156 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: who says exactly what I say, but his kids are white? 157 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: Is he racist? Because he doesn't have black kids he 158 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: can use as a crutch. I don't need to have 159 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: family members to speak to what I feel and what 160 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: I say. And by the way, when people will say 161 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: makes me so mad that people in my office think 162 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: you're a racist? Why do you care because you're not? 163 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: What is a racist? What does it mean? I am 164 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: a pursuer of truth. 165 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: There are some. 166 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Black people I do not like because they rape and murder, 167 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: that's true. I so some white people. I don't like Hispanics, 168 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't like Asians, fat people, midgets, homos, you name it. 169 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: But who I like and don't like and why I 170 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: like and don't like them is of really no consequence. 171 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: It does not matter the idea that it does. You know, 172 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: you take this to its logical extreme. These trends, these 173 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: guys that become women, have been all over podcasts and 174 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: it's a couple of years ago this was a really 175 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: big story and they said that any man who doesn't 176 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: want to date a man who dresses as a woman 177 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: is a monster and an evil person, and they wanted 178 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: that to be the next big thing. Right, you would 179 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: have to say I would date one of those people, 180 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: And that was their big issue because you shouldn't be 181 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: allowed to decide what you like and don't like, and 182 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: what turns you on and what doesn't. What they want 183 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: is here is the rule. You must like that, and 184 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: if you don't like that, then you're a bad person. 185 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: Once we can prove you're a bad person, very easy 186 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: to do. We put a mark on you, scarlet letter, 187 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: a brand, a star of David. Now we can keep 188 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: you from being elected to office, We can keep you 189 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: from getting a job. Anytime you do something, everybody will 190 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: have to take the other person's side. See, this is 191 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: what we do is call other ring people. You make 192 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: human beings into something other than a human being. It's 193 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: othering them. And that's what we've done with racism. See 194 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: what you do is you find some way to say 195 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: that someone is a racist, and once that is said, 196 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: you can't defend against it. And once you're a racist, 197 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: you've been othered. You don't have any rights. There is 198 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: no presumption of guilt of innocence. You're just a bad person. 199 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: See. 200 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: The only reason Daniel Penny would ever defend the people 201 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: on that subway is because Jordan Neely is black. Because 202 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: he hates black blacks. And let's roll out the people 203 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: who all day, every day scream that everybody hates blacks, 204 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: Al Sharpton, blm Into, LACP, the same lawyers, and that's 205 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: what they do. They actually make a good living doing that. 206 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, imagine waking up in the morning going all right, 207 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: I've got to go find out who I'm gonna call 208 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: a racist today. And it pays well. American society has 209 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: decided we're going to have certain people who are going 210 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: to run around screaming racism and the media. They're very 211 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: useful to the media. They are the first call for 212 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the media to make anytime anything's happened. Anything happens. But 213 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: this is not how functioning societies work. This is a 214 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: cancer on our society. And I'm going to go ahead 215 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and say it again. George Floyd was not choked out. 216 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: He said I can't breathe long before anyone was near him. 217 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: He couldn't breathe because he had ingested the fentanyl that 218 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: he was taking when they came upon him as he 219 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: was committing the crime of passing counterfeit bills. Remember there 220 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: was a call made that he was committing that felony 221 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: and he was a felonie. But who care if we 222 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: just send that white police officer to prison, and we 223 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: all feel better about ourselves because we don't be. 224 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: Called a racistm Southern Pride. 225 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: Southern Pride with Michael Berry show club called the Redneck 226 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: Country Club. It went under and around during COVID because 227 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: Fort Ben County, where it was located, southwest of Houston, 228 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: for over a year, you couldn't have concerts, and we 229 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: were in the concert business, and so we paid our people. 230 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Most of our people we put on salary plus tips 231 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: because I want them to have a good quality of life. 232 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to be professional what they did not like 233 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: the hospitality industry, you normally kind of scrape and scrounge, 234 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: and I wanted our people to have a certain quality 235 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: of life. Was it a good business decision? No, But 236 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: I didn't run the place as a business. And we 237 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: would have some fantastic musical acts come through. We had 238 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers last concert in Texas. We had Burle Haggard 239 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: a year. We had bur Haggard on his birthday April first, 240 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: five days later, I'm sorry. We had Merle Haggard on 241 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: April first, which is April fool Day, five days later 242 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: was his birthday. April sixth, and exactly one year later, 243 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: April sixth, the day he came into the world, he 244 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: went out, he passed. We had Charlie Pride, We had 245 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: so many great artists. Willie Nelson ted Cruz's election night party. 246 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to have doctor John. I like doctor John. 247 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: And he told his booking people to tell my booking 248 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: people that he knew who I was and he would 249 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: never play my place because I'm a racist. And I thought, 250 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: there's that word again. That word just keeps coming up. 251 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: Doesn't it such an interesting word? And most people just 252 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: go about their lives without ever questioning what does this 253 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: word mean? It's such a powerful word. What does it 254 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: mean to be this racist? So Andre Zachary, the father 255 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: of Jordan Neeley, and his attorney Monty Mills, went onto 256 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: ABC News and listen to what they say, and then 257 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it from a legal standpoint. What aspect 258 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: of this do you feel that the jury didn't take 259 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: into account that Jordan was a person. That's the only. 260 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 6: Way that you can see the situation and say that 261 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 6: he did not deserve the justice that we were seeking 262 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 6: on the criminal size. If you don't think he was 263 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 6: valuable enough to do it. The only way you can 264 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 6: say that is Jordan was scary, he came on, he 265 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 6: scared some people on the train. 266 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: That could be. 267 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 6: True, but at some point you have to be a 268 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 6: human and half humanity and say Daniel Penny could have 269 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 6: let go before Jordan died, he continued to choke him. 270 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 6: Fifty seconds after he was lifeless, he continued to choke him. 271 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 6: There's no reason for that, and there's no reason for 272 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 6: a jury to say that that's not criminal behavior. 273 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: It is. 274 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Mister Zachary, tell us about your son. What you missed 275 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: most about him? Oh? 276 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 6: Oh, I miss his voice, I miss being around him, 277 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 6: I miss him dancing. 278 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: If you could talk to Daniel Penny directly, what would 279 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: you say? Why you didn't say you were sorry? Man? 280 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Come on, man, Why you didn't say nothing? Would that 281 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: have mattered? I sure would have. Oh, mister Zachary, Uh, 282 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not the same. But we do want 283 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: to say we're sorry. What are you sorry for? Look, 284 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel good about somebody's son dying. That's awful, 285 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: no doubt about that, no doubt about that. But my understanding, 286 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: and I don't know what my understanding is that his 287 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: father was not involved in his life. Are you sorry 288 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: about that? How often did you talk to him? This 289 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: would be an interesting thing to know. I don't doubt 290 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: that you're sad that Jordan Neely has died, but realistically, 291 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: were you there for him? These are Look, I'm not 292 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: the guy to pat you on the back tell you 293 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: everything's okay. Somebody's got to ask tough questions. Somebody has 294 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: to say what needs to be said, and I'll do that. 295 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: I think this guy is a con artist. I think 296 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: he's out for his moment. I think he's hoping he'll 297 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: get paid. That's what I believe. I think that's what 298 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: his lawyer's doing. I think they'll be checks written, always are. 299 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: But I want to go to I want to go 300 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: to Alexandria Cassio Cortez. Remember she's a congressman representing a 301 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: part of New York City. I believe it's Brooklyn. Would 302 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: you listen carefully to what she says? 303 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 5: And they said that he would he would do it 304 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 5: again if necessary. 305 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: There is a part of fact, and what do you 306 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: make of the congress? You know? 307 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 7: Doesn't that I just feel like that that tells us everything. 308 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 7: If we do not want violence on our subways, and 309 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 7: the point of our justice system is a level of 310 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 7: accountability to prevent a person who does not have remorse 311 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 7: about taking another person's life. I mean, even people who 312 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 7: have engaged in nanslaughters or had taken a life accidentally 313 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 7: expressed remorse. And so the fact that a person has 314 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 7: made express no remorse indicates that there's a risk that 315 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 7: it may happen again. And if we do not want 316 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 7: to unleash that level of violence, though, he should exert 317 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 7: a level of accountability to prevent that from happening. 318 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: The New York subway system is a very dangerous place. 319 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: Some of you will recall the story of Bernie Getz, 320 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: kind of nerdy Jewish guy living in New York, down 321 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: on his luck, struggling. Several young black teenagers stuck him up, 322 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: took his money. He felt humiliated, he felt emasculated, and 323 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: he decided he would never allow that to happen again. 324 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: The police couldn't protect him. This happens every day, so 325 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: he armed himself lo and behold, those same turns attacked 326 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: him again a month or two or three months later, 327 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: shot and killed him. And you know what, a jury 328 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: of people who rode those subways said not guilty. Oh sure, 329 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: he pulled the trigger in they're dead. But one thing 330 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: you learn in law school is to understand the elements 331 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: of a crime. And if you believe you are defending yourself, 332 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: then you lack sufficient what they call malice of forethought. 333 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: You lack the men'sraa, the mental state to commit murder. 334 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: Just because someone has died doesn't mean you have murdered them. 335 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: The question would be, did Daniel Penny have the intention 336 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: to end the life of Jordan Neely? That's the jury's question. 337 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: If he did not have the intention, should he have 338 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: had the reasonable understanding? Would a reasonable person understand that 339 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: what he did would end his life? The jury said no. Now, 340 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: if he got up on top of him and danced 341 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: on him and beat on him some more, okay, that 342 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: would cut against But that didn't happen. This is the 343 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: Michael Berry Show, So in a moment like this, he's 344 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: talking heads on televisions, we'll say he didn't need to 345 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: choke him that long you ever choked anybody? How long 346 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: did he need to choke him? What do you watch movies? 347 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: You watch movies and see how it works. What do 348 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: you know about it? You see this kind of commentary, 349 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: stupid commentary that occurs when an officer has to shoot 350 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: a bad guy and the families will say, you didn't 351 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: have to shoot and kill him. He was running at 352 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: me with his knife in the air, ready to stab me. 353 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: I waited till he was three feet away when I 354 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: shot him. 355 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: You didn't have to shoot him in the stomach. You 356 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 2: could have just shot. 357 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: His pinky toe off, like in Harlem Knights. Remember Eddie 358 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: Murphy shot what was that woman's name? I love her? 359 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: Remember he shot her pinky toe off? Remember that? Oh 360 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: you want to hit people with garbage hands. Now I 361 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: got to cut you. 362 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: Put that razor away. I ain't playing no more. You 363 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: put that razor away. I'm gonna blow your he could 364 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: toe off. 365 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh, now you're gonna shoot me in my pinktoe, Dela Reese, 366 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: now playing with you. 367 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: I will blow that little black, gnarled, crusty dead foot. 368 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: Now put the rais away. 369 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: He must be crazy. Pull your gun on me. 370 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: You're gonna be the nine toe having his limping his 371 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: chin holler. You don't stop with me. Now put the 372 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: rais away, but go. 373 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: Ahead, shoot it is that is shoot quick ahead, take 374 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: your best shot. He shut a toe off. So you 375 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: get these talking heads and they go he didn't have 376 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: to kill him. First of all, it's not that easy 377 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: to subdue a grown man who doesn't want to be subdued. 378 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: He didn't shoot him, He didn't bash his head against 379 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: the wall. He tried to make him go night night. 380 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: You know why, first, to de escalate the threat against others. 381 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: A second, to save his life because otherwise he was 382 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: going to really hurt him. And you say, well, we'd 383 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: rather when he chokes him out. He doesn't choke him 384 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: out and him die, but we all would. Daniel Pending 385 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: didn't want to kill him. He knew he had a 386 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: living hell on his hands. That wasn't the intention. When 387 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: the coach has two days and in the searing Texas heat, 388 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: the players are out there running and they're not in 389 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: shape yet and one of them falls over and dies 390 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: with a heart attack. It happens, happens every year somewhere 391 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: in America. He didn't intend for the kids to die. 392 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: He's trying to get him in shape for the playoffs 393 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: later in the season. But you'll get these people who 394 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: will say he shouldn't have shot to kill He should 395 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: have just wounded him, hit him in the leg. First 396 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: of all, you've obviously never shot anything. You shoot center 397 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: mass for a reason, because it's very hard to be 398 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: accurate with a pistol when something is moving at you 399 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: and you're adrenaline is pumping. And if you don't hit 400 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: him and either wound him or kill him, he's going 401 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: to take the gun from you and kill you with it. 402 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: The highest and best opportunity, the highest margin of error, 403 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: is to shoot him center mass, straight in the sternum. 404 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate if there's a decent chance you're going to 405 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: hit his lungs or his heart. But every shooting instructor 406 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: will tell you that's where you shoot him. Nobody, but 407 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: nobody is thinking, well, I shoot off his pinky toe. 408 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: That'll make him stop, but then I won't have to 409 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: kill him. Listen, what has to happen. Here's your accountability, 410 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: and this is the lack of accountability. Do not beat 411 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: up other people, even if you're black. Do not beat 412 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: up other people. Do not beat up women. Do not 413 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: rape women or men for that matter. Do not steal 414 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: people's cars. Do not kick down their doors. Do not 415 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: walk into stors and grab things and leave without paying 416 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: for them. Do not go to the counter and put 417 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: a gun in the face of a convenience clerk to 418 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: take their money. Do not do these things. If you do, 419 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: the accountability is we will always side with the person 420 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: who did not create this situation. You created it. Now 421 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: you're going to suffer for it, and if you escalate it, 422 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: you're going to suffer in prison for it. But be 423 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: very clear, I am rooting for you to be shot 424 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: and killed. And if you're choked out and you don't die, 425 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: you just go night night. Fine as you come to. 426 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: You should be handcuffed on your way to prison, on 427 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: your way to jail, period, end of story. And if 428 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: when you go night night, you got a weak heart 429 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: or whatever else and you die, you created that situation. 430 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: That's the basis of the felony murder doctrine. Two guys 431 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: go in a convenience store armed robbery. One of them 432 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: get shot by somebody else in the store. You didn't 433 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: do the shooting, but you're still to be in charge 434 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: with murder because you created an environment where murder could 435 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: occur by committing a crime with the aggravating factor of 436 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: a gun involved. The real question here is how long 437 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: had Jordan kneely because witnesses tell us he's been doing 438 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: this for a long time and it was pretty violent. 439 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: How long had he been terrorizing the subway? Why is 440 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: anybody on the subway anymore? 441 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: Can you imagine? How crap? 442 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: Do you know how many people leave New York because 443 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: you have to to ride the subway or get mugged 444 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: at ground level? There's your accountability, Hey, Alexandro Casio Cortes, 445 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: go spend some time in the subway with no security 446 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: guards and let's see how long it is to what 447 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: you're complaining about. Is not good samaritan heroes like Daniel 448 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: Penny