1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal hull that for me. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: for a day? Edith state is that woo woom? 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: And then and Tye, welcome back to the soliverbal Boys 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: and girls. My name is ty Hildenbrandt, joining me as 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: always still over there in wonderful and wintry Chicago Land, 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: the one and only. What a tone, sir? Still over there, 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Still over there, sir? How you doing? 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. I didn't get a ton of sleep 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: because I was up reading after the game and thinking 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: about the game. And I didn't have any any dog 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: in that fight. But you know, a huge game like 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: that just it gets my mind, gets the wheels and 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: gears turning. So didn't get a ton of sleep, but 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'm running on adrenaline and a good amount 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: of cold brew in this jumbo Solid Verbal. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Made the Jumbo Soliverbal mo, which is available by the 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: way Verballers dot com until the end of the month 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: via our Patreon. We of course, will be available all 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: off season long, though we'll talk a little bit about 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: how we're shifting our schedule we've been discussing over the 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: course of the last few weeks. But now that we 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: are squarely entrenched in off season mode, believe it or not, 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: we don't have as much to talk about. So that's 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 1: the way it works here, and we're gonna be switched 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: up sortive, sort of. We have switched things to talk about. Yeah, 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: switching up to twice a week here for the foreseeable future. 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: But hey, welcome back in. I'm ty, He's Dan. This 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: is a solid verbal don't forget to follow along via 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: your favorite podcasting app of choice. Also, you can always 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: follow along on social media, going out to Facebook, to Twitter, 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: to Instagram, to YouTube, to Twitch. We're all over the place. 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing stuff all off season long. The 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: big story Dan, believe it or not, the season has completed. 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: We didn't know if we'd ever make it to this point, 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: which I think, in and of itself is a huge 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: accomplishment for those around College football. Wasn't always pretty. It 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: certainly was not symmetrical, and was lumpy and misshapen throughout 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the course of the last However, many months now we 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: all aren't we all asymmetrical, lumpy and misshapen. In our 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: own ways, physically, emotionally, mentally. It's okay. It all culminates though, 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: with Alabama as your national champion. Surprise surprise, fifty two 44 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: to twenty four is your final score. We're going to 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: go into a fair amount of detail over the course 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: of the next forty five minutes or so. We also 47 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: did a live stream last night, Dan. 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: We are all over the internet, Tye and I apologize 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 2: for that four and one half hours of our live 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: stream last night. 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: We had myriad guests on, from Bill Connolly to Ari Wasserman. 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: We had Michael Felder on for a good chunk of 53 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the second half. Marshall Newhouse to call our back. Yeah, 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a mean Adam a mean? 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: How can I I almost forgot oudam a mean? So yeah, 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: why don't we start here at the very top two 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Q twenty four. We previewed this game about a week ago. 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: How did the game play out relative to our expectations? 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: Well, our expectations are separate. You have your expectations. I 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: had mine. Ultimately, though, I think you liked Alabama maybe 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: a little more coming into the game than I did. 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: I believe. 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't keep everything straight. I liked Ohio State 64 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: to cover and keep it relatively close. I was wrong, 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: so relative to my expectations, I thought Ohio State was 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 2: going to succeed more downfield than they did. I wasn't 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: necessarily confident in Ohio State's defense and their ability to 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: wrangle Alabama, even in the way that that Notre Dame 69 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: was able to in the first round of the playoff. 70 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: But I was somewhat confident in Ohio State's ability to 71 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: make plays because we've seen the better quarterbacks that Alabama 72 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: has played, and their ability to make plays downfield between 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: Kyle Trask and Matt Corral anyway, there were plays to 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: be made and advantages to take advantage, to take advantage 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: of matchups to take advantage of. So I was wrong 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: in that. I was wrong in that Alabama's defensive game 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: plan and the ability to wrangle and run with the 78 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: better and you know, Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave made plays, 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: and obviously Trey Sermon went out early. But in terms 80 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: of chunkier plays, I think I expected more from Ohio State, 81 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: and that was that's a credit said to Alabama's pass 82 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 2: rush and their ability to run with some really great 83 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: Ohio State receivers. 84 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I have a quote here from Ryan Day 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: that I think summed it up quite well. Quote. I 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: think there's a feeling of if you don't score, you're 87 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: going to get behind, and then the pressure mounts. And 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: that was Ryan Day instead of facing the Alabama offense. 89 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: It's so true, right, I've talked about teams getting in 90 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: a hole and then Alabama just sort of beats them 91 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: with the stick and you can never get closer than 92 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: arm's length to them. I think he summed it up 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: better than anybody ever could. 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: There. 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: There's that pressure, sure that has to mount on you, 96 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: like I think in looking back, the ability of Alabama 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: to get their guys in space to keep it relatively 98 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: simple to turn basically the entire game plan over to 99 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: Devonte Smith before he got hurt. To do what he 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: did in the first half was an absolute testament to 101 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: what Sark was trying to do on offense all year, 102 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: and that is just get your best players the ball. 103 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: It's as simple as it is painful to watch if 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: you're an opponent, and look, the numbers speak for themselves here. 105 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: Mac Jones went off, Najie Harris very much caught up 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: I guess in the backdrop of what transpired to the 107 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: passing game, but still had a really good game on 108 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: his own. And Devonte Smith named the most outstanding offensive 109 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: player on the field, getting that honor setting records really 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: after only playing a half before he dislocated a finger 111 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. 112 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jalen Wattle was a participant. I want to 113 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: go big picture, by the way, because there's all sorts 114 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: of different wrinkles and elements of this game. Alabama had 115 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: better coaches and better players last night, and those coaches 116 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: and players game plan, practice and executed better than Ohio 117 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: State's coaches and players. Now, availability was certainly an issue, 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: more so for Ohio State down starting defensive tackle Tommy 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: Togii and Tyreek Smith a starting defensive end. But also 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: these things happen. Alabama's down their starting center. Ohio State 121 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: has injuries up front. What it came down to was 122 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: Nick Saban and Andy Staples werote a really nice story 123 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: for the Athletic about this and for the first first 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: of all, not having anybody from his twenty seventeen coaching 125 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: staff that won a national championship playing and coaching excuse me, 126 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: coaching against Ohio State is wild. That's just a wild, 127 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: nuggety factoid. And two Nick saban Many made the transition 128 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: to the spread and spread elements. Alabama's been all gas, 129 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: no breaks in these big games. They respected Ohio State 130 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: in a way that they respect everybody on this type 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: of stage where it's like, okay, it's fourth and goal, 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: we're not kicking. It was you know, Ari Wasserman came 133 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: on and he said, you know, leave your kickers at 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: the hotel, leave your kickers on the bus, And it 135 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: was what's important when you have the ball, you can score. 136 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: And in the first half, Ohio State they did make plays. 137 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: It was somewhat difficult at times. It was, you know, 138 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: needed a one handed catch from was Jeremy Rucker down 139 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: the field to set up a touchdown. 140 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: But it was. 141 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: Alabama never never shrinking away from the moment. And it's 142 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: tough to say, Okay, Ohio State's and plus territory, but 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: it's fourth and nine, they should definitely go for it. 144 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: But we've seen what this Alabama offense can do pretty 145 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: much every time they touched the ball, and that score 146 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: six and so those are the moments. 147 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: What it was on the. 148 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: Six yard line that Ohio State kicked a field goal. 149 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: It was obvious to anybody that has watched either of 150 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: these teams that Ohio State was going to need to 151 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: score forty five to have a chance in this game 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: and they can't. Just fields is great. The offense at 153 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: its best is excellent. But kicking that field goal and 154 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: shrinking away ahead of the half, just running the ball 155 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: on third and long, it just it was. It was disappointing. 156 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: And this is something we touched on a little bit 157 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: going into the game, like what does Ryan Day look 158 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: like for the first time in this game? Is he 159 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: does he ever use the term in his head field position? 160 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: And he did? 161 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: He did, he shrunk away from the moment. Now, the 162 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: bigger concern was Ohio State's defense and just having no 163 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: answer for DeVante Smith, like you said, and you know, 164 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: Alabama did a really nice job of you know, whatever 165 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: Ohio State's doing on defense, we're going to get the 166 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: ball to DeVante Smith. Creatively. I don't think it was simple, 167 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: like you said, the concept is simple, but what they 168 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: actually did was was pretty creative. Sure, and using motion 169 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: and using different man beaters that you know, Marshall actually 170 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: talked about on the stream, it was. It was fascinating 171 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: to watch DeVante Smith, who everybody in the universe knew 172 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: was going to be the big killer in this game, 173 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: be the big killer. 174 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: There were no surprises in that respect. He won the 175 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. He clearly had the best year of any receiver, 176 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: and Sark went out and said, well, we're just going 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: to throw them the ball. We're going to find ways 178 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: to get him in space and let him run. And 179 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: to the point on that little kind of motion play 180 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: where it looked like maybe a jet sweep or an 181 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: end around and he reversed field and went back to 182 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: the pylon. Marshall's point on the stream was that different 183 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: plays serve different purposes. You're not going to run that 184 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: play if you need something like twenty five yards, but 185 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: if you need to get ten to get to the pylon, 186 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: you know that Devonte Smith in space against a linebacker, 187 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: even a cornerback of safety whatever, he's going to be 188 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: able to beat him to that corner and get six. 189 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. 190 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's true. And Alabama came out with a 191 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: sound game plan at Ohio State. I mean losing trace sermon, 192 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: I think it was the first carry. He heard his 193 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: shop for another play, collarbone, shoulder or whatever it was. 194 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: First first drive for Ohio State was brutal. He I 195 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: haven't seen his status update as of today. I know 196 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: they took him to the hospital to do some further evaluation. 197 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: What suck? What it sucks for him because he had 198 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: a really great way to close out his campaign down 199 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the stretch. Mastertigue, I think, for his part, did a 200 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: pretty good job. I don't know what more Ohio State 201 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: could have really done, at least on the defensive side 202 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: to try and quell this Alabama offense. 203 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: Knock jeff Halfley, Jeffreyokuda, Denzel Ward, you know, snuck those 204 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: guys and put him in different uniforms. 205 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: Like what do you do with that? What do you do? 206 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if there's anything that happened 207 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: on the defensive side for Ohio State where we can 208 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: point to it and say, Aha, that's the If they 209 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: would have done something differently, it maybe would have changed 210 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: the complexion of this game. Offensively. Look to the previous point, 211 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: you do get in a hole and you do have 212 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: to come out of perhaps your game plan to some 213 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: extent to try and make up ground and Ohio State 214 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: found themselves in a situation that many teams before them 215 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: over the course of this season, in many seasons, frankly, 216 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: have had to do against Alabama. 217 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: So by the way that fumble, the forced fumble and 218 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: recovery and short field and touchdown, that's on the Bengal 219 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: card for how you beat Alabama. I was so happy 220 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: to see that for Ohio State because those are the 221 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: things that those are those crispy edges that we talked 222 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: about that team's need. We're talking about a historically great 223 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: Alabama offense. To keep up, you need those boxes checked, 224 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: and that was what I think that got them their 225 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: second touchdown. I believe in the second quarter that was 226 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: encouraging to me that Ohio State capitalized on that turnover. 227 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: It was just situationally that needed to happen, not recovering 228 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: a fumble in the red zone, but taking advantage of 229 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: those high leverage moments needed to happen all game long 230 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: and Ohio State, and honestly, I largely think it was 231 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: a talent thing for Ohio State's defense. We talked about 232 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: this with Michael Felder some where. It's just like the 233 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: secondary wasn't last night where it has been for Ohio 234 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: State in years past from a talent perspective to run 235 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: with what Alabama does and the mismatches created. We saw 236 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: the DeVante Smith match up against I think it was 237 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: tough Borland, the Ohio State linebacker. Yep, that's not something 238 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: you pencil in for a possible rep win for Ohio State. 239 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: That was the play. That was the play. I don't 240 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: know if it was a post or what it was, 241 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: but DeVante Smith went deep, untouched, untouched, got in behind 242 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: the defense, and I think that was the forty four 243 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: yarder that he caught. 244 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: Yes, And so it was a talent thing for Ohio 245 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: State's defense, as crazy that is to say, because this 246 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: is a Buckeye team that has recruited on an unfairly 247 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: great level, but it really did show against an Alabama 248 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: offense that is happy to just gash and take what 249 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: you want them to gash you with. It did show 250 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: at times where the mismatch issues were pretty clear along 251 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: I think all three levels of the Ohio State defense. 252 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: So just to recap a little bit where things were 253 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the night with regard to stats, 254 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: because some of the numbers on the Alabama side, are 255 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: are mind blowing? Mac Jones kind of gets lost in 256 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: this a little bit. We talk about the Vonte Smith, 257 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: but Mac Jones did just an admirable job running this 258 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: offense all year. Five touchdowns, no picks through for four 259 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: to sixty four in this football game. Devonte Smith, his 260 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: final line was twelve for two fifteen and three touchdowns 261 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: that came in the first half. Don't kid yourself. If 262 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: he had played the entire game, I don't know what 263 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: these numbers would have looked like because Ohio stated no 264 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: answer for him. John Metchi stepped up in that void 265 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: after Davante went down eight for eighty one, as did 266 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: Naji Harris to some extent, seven for seventy nine out 267 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: of the backfield and a touchdown as well. He had 268 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: something like one hundred and thirteen or one hundred and Yeah, 269 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: it was one hundred and something total yards of offense 270 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: if you factor in what he did on the ground, 271 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: which is seventy nine and two touchdowns as well. So 272 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: a really good effort from Alabama on offense. No huge 273 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: surprises there. On the flip side with Ohio State, justin fields, 274 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: I guess a shade over fifty percent passing seventeen of 275 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: thirty three one ninety four in a touchdown, also led 276 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: the team in rushing yardage with sixty seven. He was 277 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: clearly hurt in this football game. He was clearly hurt, 278 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: and he did take He did take a shot. 279 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: I referenced that fourth down that they punted on in 280 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: plus territory. He had taken a big shot and was 281 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: wincing before that play. There is a certain amount of calculus, 282 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure from Ryan Day and saying, you know, is 283 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: is Justin Fields physically up for this moment, But it's 284 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: still it was still you know, we're watching it without 285 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: the full amount of information. But you're right, he was 286 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: hurt and he ran. He had a couple really nice runs. 287 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: Master Te had a couple really nice runs. But it 288 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: was it was tough to watch. And I don't believe 289 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: when a team loses by what twenty eight? Is that 290 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: my math correct? 291 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: Yep? 292 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: What does a healthy Justin Fields do when he has 293 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: the Buckeye defense not holding up its end of the bargain. 294 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: Maybe they lose by twenty, maybe lose by seventeen. I 295 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: don't think it's a big don't. 296 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't think one of the advantages of playing and 297 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: losing to a team like Alabama. We talked about this 298 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: after Notre Dame lost. You often come away feeling like 299 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: there were a couple things that could have gone differently, 300 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: but ultimately, even if everything goes right, you still lose 301 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: by two touchdowns, and that was probably the case here 302 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: against Ohio State as well. Fields. I don't mean to 303 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: imply the field was too hurt to play. I saw 304 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: no for sure. 305 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: He was just in pain. 306 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: After the game, they asked him, you know where you're hurt, 307 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: how'd you feel? And he said I was able to 308 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: be out there, which is as much of a non 309 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: answer as you're going to get. The kid was clearly 310 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: in pain. He's clearly a top prospect, maybe one of 311 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks that's ever come through Columbus Ohio. He 312 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: couldn't do it single handedly. He did his best again, 313 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: one to ninety four a touchdown, just over fifty percent 314 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: completion percentage. Also did a number running the football. Master 315 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: Tigue I thought filled in admirably for Tray Sermon. Trace 316 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: Sermon had one carry for two yards before he got hurt. 317 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: Master Tigue fifteen for sixty five and two touchdowns. So 318 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: played a part, did his best, wasn't enough. Chris Olave 319 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I thought had a good game. Garrett Wilson had that 320 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: nice touchdown in the corner of the end zone. Yeah, 321 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: so you know things I think that were overwhelmingly positive 322 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: for Ohio State and offense. It was just overshadowed by 323 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: the fact that they were frankly overwhelmed on the defensive 324 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: side and could never make up that ground. 325 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: There's always going to be that storm coming, Like the 326 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: terrible maner voice, I do, well, there's a storm. Common 327 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: could be second quarter, could be the first quarter like 328 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: we saw against Notre Dame early earlier on in this game. 329 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: Perhaps by the way you're fighting, Irish held him to 330 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: thirty one. Second final, second year. 331 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: In a row where they could claim that they were 332 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: closer to Alabama than the second place team. So there's that, yeah, 333 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: feather in there, the blue and bronze of Notre Dame. 334 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: Congratulations. So yeah, I just thought in watching this game, 335 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: the things that were obvious. It came down to talent, 336 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: it came down to health, it came down to availability, 337 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: and it came down to I'm curious what you think 338 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: about this. I was watching a video this morning. I 339 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: think it's Murph Baldwin who does top villain, and he's 340 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: a big level of competition guy. Okay, And obviously Ohio 341 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: State practices against an extremely high level of competition relative 342 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: to most of the country. By the time Alabama got here, 343 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: they had played I believe, eleven SEC games, including the 344 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: SEC championship game and Notre Dame. By the time Ohio 345 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: State got here, they had played whatever it was, five 346 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: or six games in the Big Ten against no team 347 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 2: anywhere near complete. You know, Northwestern is defense with their 348 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: offense wasn't anything special this year. Alabama in terms of 349 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: muscle memory. And this is not like a commentary on like, 350 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: oh the SEC is man wall whatever, but having played 351 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: the offenses that they played especially, I felt like seasoned 352 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: them in a way. I took his point well, Murph's point, well, 353 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: that Alabama came into this game prepared to adjust two 354 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: things on offense that Ohio State hadn't necessarily seen. Now, 355 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: nobody can prepare for DeVante Smith. That's an outlier. But 356 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: in terms of the comfort level of Alabama and reacting 357 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: with high, extremely high level talent, I thought that was 358 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: an interesting take that Alabama had come in with. I 359 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: think a higher level of firmware on defense. Higher level 360 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: of firmware is that? Does that make any sense? 361 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 362 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: I took that point. 363 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: Well, well it does, it does, and it kind of 364 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: speaks to I think the goofiness of was it Dabbo? 365 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: I forget who had the issue with it, Probably was Dabo. 366 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: To be fair, just assume the whole notion of Ohio 367 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: State being fresher fresher because they played fewer games going 368 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: into the playoff. Look Clemson lost, looks list Clemson lost. 369 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: And we did talk about that angle before this football game, 370 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: and I think we were on point with it as well. 371 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: You know, maybe we didn't express it as eloquently, but 372 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Alabama had their opportunity time and again to go up 373 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: against some good offenses this year. We weren't sure how 374 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: that was going to fair for them once they got 375 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: into some of these bigger games. We didn't really see 376 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: them go against a high powered offense. I know, statistically 377 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: Notre Dame was up there in the semi final game, 378 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: but I think we knew better on the show, especially 379 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: putting that Irish team against the Spama defense. This was 380 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: like one of our final attempts at getting that matchup 381 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: to see how they would truly fare against a good 382 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: offense at a relatively good defense, and it's just, you know, 383 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: twenty eight points what you can do? 384 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't. Man, The Kerry Coombs defense 385 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: was not a fun watch for me. The way Pete 386 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: Golding's defense over the course of the season evolved was 387 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: pretty impressive. We saw Christian Barmore break through a couple 388 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: different times the interior of the Alabama defensive line. It 389 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: should probably be stressed more than we have already in 390 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: disrupting a beaten up. Certainly you know a backup or 391 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: two in there along the inside of the Ohio State 392 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: inside line, inside of their offensive line. It was just 393 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: another mismatch in a series of mismatches in this game, 394 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: and on all three levels. Ohio State wasn't fully able 395 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: to take advantage of some coverage issues that Alabama has 396 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: had this year in their linebacking core. And Ohio State 397 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: is a great team, that's the thing. This is what 398 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: Alabama does two teams, unless it's a lightning. We talked 399 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: about this on the stream as well. Whereas you know 400 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: Clemson bringing back what they do in a certain year 401 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: on defense, you know, all these upperclassmen or LSU last year, 402 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: there has to be a certain degree of lightning in 403 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: a bottle, or you know, all those pass catchers for 404 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: Old Miss whatever it is, there has to be that element. 405 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: And Ohio State as is, you know, a very usual 406 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: circumstance for teams. You're down guys, you're beat up, You're 407 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: going up against excellence, and they just didn't have that 408 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: last night. I don't know. Maybe this is the question, ty, 409 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: if this game is played a hundred times, how many 410 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: are close Alabama wins? How many are last night's wins? 411 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: And how many are you know, a close Ohio State upset? 412 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if we can answer that on 413 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: the foot car. This is just you guessing. Yeah, I 414 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: let's put it this way. I feel like I feel 415 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: like there's like a less than ten percent chance Ohio 416 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: State wins if that. Yeah, after watching what we saw, 417 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: the other factor that we didn't even mention thus far 418 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: is that Jalen Wattle was out there speaking of guys 419 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: who was speaking of guys who looked hurt. But he 420 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: was out there. He was another guy that the Ohio 421 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: State defense had to keep aware of because, again, as 422 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: we said, on the stream going into the season, Jalen 423 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: Wattle was the best receiver, and so to have him 424 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: out there in any capacity, he's one of those gravitational 425 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: guys that you like to talk about. Dan we didn't 426 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: just didn't know what to expect from him. If they 427 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: play one hundred times, maybe he doesn't tweak an ankle 428 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: on the first carrier, first touch that he gets of 429 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: the football, and maybe it's a different thing. If Wattle's 430 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: out there healthy, if Davante's out there healthy, if they 431 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: played a hundred times, I just I don't see many pathways, 432 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: especially in light of what we saw last night, for 433 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State to come out on top, or even for 434 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: the game to be that much closer, to be honest, 435 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: because it just it did not feel to me like 436 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State did a whole lot wrong. They were just 437 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: overwhelmed defensively and didn't have an answer for all the 438 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: playmakers on the Alabama side. 439 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they were. We noted this like Alabama was 440 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 2: not able to get loose too much beyond DeVante Smith, 441 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: you know, getting the ball in the backfield and turning 442 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: you know, a swing pass or a sort of a 443 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: motion led pass into twelve or thirteen yards when Mac 444 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: Jones completed passes, when Najie Harris got the ball, they 445 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: picked up yardage, but in the open field, they didn't 446 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: make Ohio State miss Ohio State tackled. Well, this was 447 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: you know, it was there was very little that could 448 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: be done by the players because of the position they 449 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: were putting on defense and just how good Alabama was. 450 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: And I mean, I'll come back to the same point 451 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: I made to sort of open things up. In that 452 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: second half, Ohio State got a stop and for Alabama 453 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: to kick a field goal. So at that point it 454 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 2: was thirty eight what thirty eight seventeen, yes, thirty eight, 455 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: twenteven point the fetti wops score seventeen thirty eight, and 456 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: then Ohio State immediately drove down the field and scored. 457 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: It's a two touchdown game in the third quarter, which 458 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: is within reach thirty eight twenty four. And you were 459 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: talking about and you were asking, you weren't saying, well, 460 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: You're like, is this where Alabama sort of packs it 461 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: in and runs clock and leans on Najie Harris and 462 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: Brian Robinson. And what Nick Saban did was, no, this 463 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: is where we go all gas, no breaks, because this 464 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: is who we are in this moment, and they scored it. 465 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: I know it was like a three minute drive or 466 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: something like that. But they marched down the field and 467 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: then got to stop and march down the field again 468 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: running their offense. They weren't you know, they weren't Turtle 469 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 2: shelling it. And that to me in that moment was like, 470 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: this is the difference between a guy who's been here 471 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: however many times. I know he has seven rings now 472 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: between LSU and Alabama and Ryan Day make his first 473 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: appearance here, is that there is this element of this 474 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: is what we do, this is who we are, and 475 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: unless we're up thirty five, forty two whatever a minute points, 476 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 2: this is how we're rolling. This is the new reality 477 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: of Alabama football and it has been for a few 478 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: years now. 479 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought up number seven for Nick Saban, 480 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: because going into this game he was tied with the 481 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: Alabama great Paul Butar Bryant. This is number seven for him, 482 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: so he's now got more than the bear. By the 483 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: time all of a sudden done, Saban's going to go 484 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: down as the greatest college football coach of all time. 485 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: Already is he already is And so much the way 486 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: I felt fortunate to watch the likes of Michael Jordan 487 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: on the basketball court, Tiger Woods on the golf course, 488 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady on the football field, love them or hate 489 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: them and their respective teams, there is a certain amount 490 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: of I think respect with regard to watching great now 491 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: to seeing it unfold, and this killing machine that Nick 492 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: Saban has built at Alabama that never seems to have 493 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: to rebuild, just constantly reloads. It's just so rare to 494 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: see that in sports. Of course, we've seen the likes 495 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: of Clemson. Maybe we're seeing it with Ohio State, with 496 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: some other teams like Georgia. I mean, there's a select few, 497 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: at least in college football that can even really get 498 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: into that conversation, nudge their way into that conversation. But 499 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: kudos to what Saban has done that what we're witnessing 500 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: here over this last generation of college football at Alabama 501 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: has really been remarkable. It's hard for me to believe 502 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: that we'll see it matched again in our lifetime. And 503 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: the scary part for college football is that Alabama has 504 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: already been installed as a three to one favorite to 505 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: win a national championship next year. And that is I 506 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: think a little bit in front of Clemson, which is 507 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: a four to one favorite. The point being the divide 508 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: between the haves and the have nots in college football 509 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: isn't going away anytime soon, and Alabama does not seem 510 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: poised to relinquish this spot a top college football even 511 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: despite the fact that they're going to lose Mac Jones, 512 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: They're going to lose Nachie Harris, They're going to lose 513 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: Devonte Smith, Jalen Waddle, a couple guys from their offensive lines, 514 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: some guys on defense. It's just a testament to. 515 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian, Steve Sarkisian's bringing with him. 516 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, the turnover, that, to me is kind of the 517 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: underappreciated detail amid all this, right, the turnover that Sabans 518 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: had to deal with in his tenure. It's understandable and 519 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: completely natural given the success, but the fact that he's 520 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: still able to turn out such a high quality product 521 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: year and in year out only emphasizes the point that he's 522 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time. 523 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not even such a high quality product. 524 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: It's it's like you said, it's a completely new staff 525 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: from where they were three three years ago. The do 526 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: it every year, have to replace multiple dudes. I mean 527 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: the rock to this program, of course was the strength coach, 528 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: Scott Cochran, who left for Georgia to become their special 529 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: teams coach. He hires a couple guys from Indiana, the 530 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, head of sports medicine and the new strength 531 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: coach don't miss a beat, and he's going to bring 532 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: in what Bill O'Brien, but Chen's coming to Tuscaloosa and 533 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: they're not going to miss a beat because he has 534 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: all of these recruits that have been fantastic. Bryce Young 535 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: is going to take over presumably at quarterback after getting 536 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of time uh in the to run 537 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: the offense this year. And it's I mean think if 538 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: you think about this in like any sort of office 539 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: or a restaurant or whatever, you lose your entire staff 540 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: and all you do is, year over year, just keep 541 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: making more money. You just keep making You're more successful, 542 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: you're more efficient, you're more historically successful just because you're 543 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: able to build on things and the people don't as much, 544 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: don't matter as much as the you know, the process 545 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: is the cliche word here, but just the infrastructure and 546 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: the way of doing things and the man at the 547 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: top is so good at all of the little things, 548 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: which is what some of the players talked about. So no, 549 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: it'll be fascinating to see where this offense goes. Just 550 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the system is going to 551 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: change dramatically, but they're going to have a really smart 552 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: offensive mind once again running things and Bill O'Brien, who 553 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody questions his acumen as an offensive mind. Yeah, 554 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: don't run the personnel, yeah, don't's play the administrative stuff, 555 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: which he's not gonna have to worry about. 556 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't don't worry about He can be a football coach. 557 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: He's never going to be a GM again, we'll say that. 558 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think to your point, I don't think 559 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: anybody questions his acumen on the offensive side of the football. 560 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: He did remember at it with his short stint at 561 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: Penn State. He did a pretty good job bridging that 562 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: gap and keeping things moving in a good direction. Was 563 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: able to retain some recruits. You know, probably got the 564 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: most out of Christian Hackenberg that anybody was able to 565 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: in his time in state college. And you know, curious 566 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: to see what he can do at Alabama, he wi 567 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: viously have a lot more weapons to work with than 568 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: he did at Pencil. 569 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: And even if he's there for a year, by the way, 570 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: he could say, this is what we did with Deshaun Watson, 571 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: this is what we did with Alan Robinson at Penn State. 572 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: I believe he crossed over right with Alan Robinson. Yeah, 573 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: and this is what he has this track record. Now, 574 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: he's not going to trade anybody at Alabama for like 575 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: for a Laramie Tunsel, crazy deal anything like that, or 576 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: who did they trade last year. I don't know my 577 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: NFL that well, the new Hopkins right Arizona. But it's 578 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: going to be fascinating to see where this Alabama program heads, 579 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: just in general, to see who else potentially leaves and 580 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: who Nick Saban replaces guys with. Because what you're able 581 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: to do for your career by becoming an assistant or 582 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: coordinator at Alabama is unmatched anywhere in the sport. And 583 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: we'll be fascinating to see where Ohio State goes from here, 584 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: to see how they make that what seems like a 585 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: small but still enormous, enormous sleep to get over a 586 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: team like Alabama in a national championship game. Because they've 587 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: got these incredible quarterbacks coming in, another incredible class or 588 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: two or three classes lined up, But is that leap 589 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: in them because Justin Fields is gone. They're starting over 590 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: at quarterback. And whether it's you know, CJ. Stroud or 591 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: whoever it is that takes over who is crazy well 592 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: regarded coming in, Yeah, they're starting over. And it's they 593 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: have an enormously high ceiling because the Big Ten offers 594 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: no obvious counterpoint, and so they should end up in 595 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: this situation of as a playoff team more often than not. 596 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: They've lost what three straight since beating Oregon in the 597 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: National Championship, lost to Clemson, And sorry, they didn't lose 598 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: three straight because they just beat Clemson, but before that 599 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: they were losing. And so it's it'll be fascinating to 600 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 2: watch because right now it is it is this grouping 601 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: of Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson and then everybody else. 602 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: And I think Ohio State has it in them. But 603 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: they're going to have to get better on defense. They're 604 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: gonna have to get better probably a defensive coordinator, and 605 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: they're going to have to be able to you know, 606 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: catch lightning in a bottle health wise or scheme wise 607 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: or something, because you just have to pencil in Alabama 608 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: until proven otherwise. 609 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: So for those of you wondering what are the final rankings, 610 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: because the rankings don't really matter, but hit me, we 611 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: do have the final ape pole. Alabama obviously won Ohio 612 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: State two, Clemson three, Texas. A and M finally makes 613 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: it to number four in A and M. 614 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on I haven't seen this on 615 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: social media. This is just a total straw man argument 616 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: for me, where an A and M fan can say, well, 617 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: we lost fifty two to twenty four. 618 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Yep, why not us? 619 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: They would have lost worse than fifty two to twenty 620 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: four to Alabama with time and energy and focus and 621 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: a season of adjustments under their belt. 622 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. A and M. By the way, one that game 623 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: over North Carolina forty one to twenty seven in the 624 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: Orange Bowl to close out the season, so they get 625 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: up to four. Notre Dame drops to five after losing 626 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: by seventeen to Alabama. To round out the top ten, 627 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: we had Oklahoma, who destroyed Florida in the Cotton Bowl 628 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: by a fifty five to twenty score. They finish at 629 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: number six Georgia, which won that squeaker over Cincinnati. They 630 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: are at seven. Cincinnati finishes at eight, one spot behind Georgia, 631 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: which feels about right. Iowa, Iowa state, excuse me, which 632 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: knocked off your Oregon Ducks thirty four to seventeen. Yep, 633 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: they finish at number nine and Northwestern. 634 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: Chazz Coller coming back, right, Chaz. 635 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: Coller coming back and Northwestern Northwestern won the bowl game 636 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: over Auburn. They finished seven into a good year for 637 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: the Cats. They are in the top ten, which is 638 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: the AP? Is the AP? Yeah, let me just rifle 639 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: through a few other teams. 640 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the playoff rankings, the final playoff rankings. 641 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: But okay, that's final playoff rankings going into Okay, continue 642 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: with the AP. 643 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: BYU at eleven, Indiana twelve, Florida thirteen, Coastal Carolina at fourteen, 644 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: and Louisiana Louisiana finishing at number fifteen. So won't read 645 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: all the teams off there. But that does it for 646 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season. Can you believe it? Can you 647 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: believe it? I can? 648 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: You'd neglectus mentioned. Oregon also received twenty one votes for 649 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 2: the top twenty five. Sir, Yeah, what a season? Man? 650 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: Season? 651 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: I think Thursday. So this is Tuesday that this will 652 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: be released and we're streaming this live, but Thursday maybe 653 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: will be like a lingering questions episode after the season 654 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: has finally been completed. So if you want, you know, 655 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: drop in some questions on any of our social feeds 656 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 2: or solidverboatgmail dot com. What are your look back thoughts 657 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: after a season that lasted twenty seven years. 658 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I it's been a journey. I think, to put 659 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: it mildly, we kind of came at this from many 660 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: different perspectives. I remember doing a live stream with you 661 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: back in April. This is back when you were contemplating 662 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: leaving New York because of. 663 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: Oh I was gone. 664 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: I left New York March thirty first, March, first took whatever. Yeah, well, 665 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: you had either left or were about to leave. And 666 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: I remember back then end of March early April, we 667 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: were discussing what is this going to mean for college football? 668 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: And we didn't have you know, of course, we know 669 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: more now, but we didn't know at the time what 670 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: it was going to mean. We were keeping our fingers 671 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: crossed that it wouldn't have any kind of lasting impact. 672 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: At the time, we were hopeful that it wouldn't obviously, 673 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: as things kind of worsened and intensified throughout the course 674 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: of the summer and then going into the fall, we 675 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: knew better, and that's when the season took such an 676 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: odd turn. I am. I am grateful as a college 677 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: football fan that we were able to play a season. 678 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said I weren't mixed on 679 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: the manner in which it happened, or you know, just 680 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: some of my own personal thoughts around whether or not 681 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: they should or shouldn't be playing. But the fact of 682 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: the matter is they did get the season in. It 683 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: seems like for the most part, they were able to 684 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: do so safely. And I am ever hopeful that going 685 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: forward to twenty twenty one, we can get back to 686 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: quote unquote normal. Whatever that looks like come the fall. 687 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: I'll take normal ish. I'll take normal is just something 688 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: something closer to the kids being able to get out 689 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: there and play without having all the virus restrictions, fans 690 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: hopefully being able to get back and stands or at 691 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: least tailgate, and and do so more comfortably without all 692 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: the restrictions. You know, I just I don't want people 693 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: to get sick. Yeah, I know, you're in the same 694 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: boat and without having to worry about that. 695 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: I saw the celebration in the streets last night in Alabama. 696 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: I was sleeved out by that. I understand. I understand 697 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: the optimism and the jubulation, but I just I don't 698 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: want people to get sick. And I hope moving forward, 699 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: in whatever reality we find ourselves in come August, I 700 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: hope we are closer to a situation in which we 701 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: can get back to closer to normal without having that 702 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: fear of people getting sick. Yeah. 703 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm obviously it's a different world now than it was 704 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: in the early spring of twenty twenty, and I'm just 705 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: hopeful that we are. That we get to live in 706 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: a world where we don't have college football coaches offering 707 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: up their thoughts. 708 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: Thanks Dabo, super hopeful. 709 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: Thank I do really appreciate it. 710 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: I am good with Daboswiney being a super optimistic college 711 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: football coach. Yeah, I'm fine with that reality. Unfortunately, the 712 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: circumstances of today have forced these coaches into a bit 713 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: of a boxer. They've got a comment on a lot 714 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: of other things, and they're not always the ones with 715 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: the most perspective. Yeah. 716 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: No, it definitely felt like a TV season more than 717 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: any season I've ever watched. We're just like, can't We're 718 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: going to lose a ton of money from the gate 719 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: and from all sorts of you know, auxiliary elements of 720 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 2: the college foot ball universe not existing. Got to get 721 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: these games on TV, got to get them on TV. 722 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 2: And yes, you know the players practice hard, and yes 723 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 2: they work all their lives for this moment, and yes 724 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 2: there is a definite element of that, but the season 725 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 2: happened for TV, and so it would be nice to 726 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: at least pretend in twenty twenty one that the season's happening, 727 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: because the season should just happen like it does every year, 728 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: and that there is tailgating that you can watch with 729 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 2: your friends in a way that you couldn't necessarily do 730 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty that you can. It can be this 731 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: social element of our world that just that just wasn't there. 732 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean, look, watching a game we 733 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: talked about this, Watching a game with very limited or 734 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: no fans, it's. 735 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: Just it's different. It's different. It was different on a 736 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: thousand different levels. And yeah, I just I hope when 737 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: we're doing this a year from now, we're telling a 738 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: much much different story. I'm hopefully that we will. 739 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: I can't wait to whenever it is. I cannot wait 740 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: to have a core back struggle to hear, to hear 741 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 2: the booth, to struggle to communicate with his offensive line 742 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 2: and make adjustments and you know, change things up of 743 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: the snap because the crowd is so overbearing. I can't 744 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: wait to see a camera shake because the stadium is 745 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: literally jumping up and down. You know, we've seen that 746 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 2: in places like Seattle wherever. I can't wait, and I 747 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 2: just you know, every every digitous cross tie that we 748 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: get it in a responsible way. 749 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: Well, here's two better days ahead. Congratulations to Alabama for 750 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: winning yet another national championship. Nick Saban cementing his legacy 751 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: as the greatest college football coach of all time. We 752 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: will have an entire offseason to unpack what transpired in 753 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It is one of the things that we're 754 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: going to be focused on just taking a look at 755 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: some specific instances throughout the course of the last year 756 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: that we feel the a little bit of a deeper dive. 757 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: So that will be for coming, But in the immediate 758 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: aftermath now of the national championship, Our next show is 759 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: going to be on Thursday from this point forward, at 760 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 1: least until we get closer to the season and start 761 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: doing previews and actually hopefully have more normal ish football 762 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: to talk about. We'll be going twice a week Tuesday Thursday, 763 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: so set your calendars and watch as accordingly. Please do 764 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: subscribe to the show if you haven't already. If you're 765 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: just finding us, we'd appreciate it if you stop on 766 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: by hop on over into any of our social channels. 767 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: If you're ever so inclined, you can also go and 768 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: check out verballers dot com. We do have a Patreon. 769 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: We are doing all sorts of fun stuff over there, 770 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: even throughout the offseason that that I know we're excited 771 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: to share with the verballerhood. So I think a good 772 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: season for us Dan. You know, we added a lot 773 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: of knickknacks here, not the least of which's video. As 774 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: some people are watching, we I think really push the 775 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: envelope amid strange circumstances for us in the entire like 776 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: sports media vertical as well. I think we should give 777 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: ourselves a pat on the back for a job well 778 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: done this year. And you know, let's carry this momentum 779 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: forward into the new year here. 780 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 2: Yes, and also will you It's called two factor authentication, Tye. 781 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. 782 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 2: If Alabama ever finds itself in a national championship game 783 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 2: and is historically excellent and transformational on either side of 784 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: the ball, and I decide to not roll with them 785 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 2: against the spread, will you ask me twice if I'm sure? 786 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: Will you? Will you socially too, path on your authenticator 787 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: app to confirm yes, I can do that. 788 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 2: That's what I need from you, just like, are you 789 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 2: sure you are not going to give the points? 790 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, I hear you. But are you sure that's 791 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: what I need from me? I need a qr scand confirmation. Okay. Well, look, 792 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: we appreciate you all hanging with us. Yes, we will 793 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 1: be back on Thursday. I think that does it again, 794 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: your national champion, the Alabama Crimson Tide, big time victors 795 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: on Monday evening in my Miami Dan, Yeah, good season. Yeah, 796 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: all things considered for that guy over there, my good 797 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty Hildebrand over here in 798 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: eastern Pennsylvania. We will talk to you all on Thursday. 799 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid, peace,