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Speaker 2: There are some absolutely insane names.

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Speaker 1: If you are a Mets fan, diehard like we are,

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Speaker 1: a start off with the twenty ten offseason, we start

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Speaker 1: off with possibly the worst Mets contract ever given out.

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Speaker 1: Remember new episodes after every series, twice a week in

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Speaker 1: the off season, three times a week during the regular season.

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Speaker 1: All right, James, you ready to talk about this twenty

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Speaker 2: I'm not ready to talk about this the twenty ten

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Speaker 2: the Mets signed Jason Bay to a four year, sixty

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Speaker 1: But there was this was this was so bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They signed Rod Barrojas, which Loki I feel like was

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Speaker 2: How often do you see a team sign two catchers

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Henry Blanco, I mean, I respect that hell out

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Speaker 1: Seems like the Mets gave up a compensation pick, possibly

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Speaker 3: This was a There wasn't a lot of good process

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Speaker 1: This got them Fernando Tatis. Fernando Tatis signed with the

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Speaker 1: I really try to black these teams out of my memory.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that one was an f How about

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Speaker 2: It would be funny if funny screw up to start this.

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Speaker 2: But Mets sign it's five major league contracts this entire offseason,

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Speaker 2: Another uh, major league major league contract for a catcher,

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Speaker 1: Couldn't have enough, couldn't have enough. We had to bring

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Speaker 1: Did DJ Carrasco find his way back to the Mets?

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Speaker 2: Like recently? I used to give Carlos Who am I

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Speaker 2: I do remember that the Taylor Buckle signing where I

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Speaker 2: There's also when we got the sneaky double Scott Harrison

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Speaker 1: It almost feels shocking to think that they didn't bring

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Speaker 1: The fact that the Mets gave out two contracts that offseason,

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Speaker 1: The offseason before the magical year of twenty fifteen twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give a two year, multi year contract too,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Farnsworth two. I feel like this was a season.

444
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Speaker 2: Was that this year or the year before those guys

445
00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,320
Speaker 2: was Farnsworth, Hefner dice Cake again got back into the

446
00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,320
Speaker 2: fold a little bit. We gave another one to Omar

447
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Speaker 2: Kintania Taylor Tea Garden like this was this was still

448
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,640
Speaker 2: the who's who of this era of Mets, but it's

449
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Speaker 2: our first not f of the video.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think this is like a firm C plus.

451
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Speaker 1: I was gonna go B but yeah, yeah, I mean

452
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,480
Speaker 1: context is key. The Mets don't have many good offseasons.

453
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be, weirdly one of the better ones.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean one of the best ones By far,

455
00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,680
Speaker 2: because even we get to the next offseason, literally when

456
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,399
Speaker 2: we went to the World Series, the Magical run, this

457
00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,040
Speaker 2: might be the worst offseason that we've even gone through

458
00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:22,360
Speaker 2: so far.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Mets were like, let's bring in Michael Cadyer.

460
00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,560
Speaker 1: They also paid the qualifying offer on Michael Kadyer, which

461
00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:27,960
Speaker 1: is crazy.

462
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Speaker 3: Chrits Granderson two years in a row.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, two years in a row. Curt qualifying offer. Honestly,

464
00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,840
Speaker 1: real credit to Mets player development. Despite constantly not having

465
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Speaker 1: top picks, they ended up getting some really good players

466
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Speaker 1: down the line. But yeah, Michael Kadyer two years, twenty

467
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Speaker 1: one million dollars and John Mayberry Junior won for one

468
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Speaker 1: point four It's crazy that even at the time, a

469
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Speaker 1: one year, one point four million dollar contract got you

470
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Speaker 1: a starting spot on the New York Mets. John Mayberry

471
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Speaker 1: was about as bad as you could be as a

472
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Speaker 1: baseball player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but John Mayberry Junior also kind of became like

474
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Speaker 2: I'm a junior. Yes, of course, Shot Maybray Junior. The

475
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,320
Speaker 2: signal for like where the Mets season, how bad it was,

476
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,360
Speaker 2: and the fact they got better there was that there

477
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,400
Speaker 2: was that Saturday game and it was like mid June,

478
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Speaker 2: early July when he hit fourth and who hit third

479
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,040
Speaker 2: in that game? Is there Campbell hit thurther, vice versa,

480
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 2: something like that, And then they were like that, enough

481
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,000
Speaker 2: is enough. This cannot go on any longer, like we

482
00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,040
Speaker 2: need to get ball players to come to this team.

483
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Speaker 1: It also says a lot too when the Mets were

484
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Speaker 1: going through periods where they were signing guys and that

485
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Speaker 1: was the last time they played professional baseballs with the like.

486
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,359
Speaker 1: John Mayberry, at thirty one, signed a contract with the Mets,

487
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Speaker 1: never again in the major leagues prime of his athleticism.

488
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Speaker 1: Towards the end of his peak athleticism, never played again.

489
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Speaker 1: He had a fifty ops plus for the Mets in

490
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Speaker 1: fifty nine games.

491
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Speaker 2: That's that's like unreal bad. He didn't pay him much,

492
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Speaker 2: but the fact they even played is embarrassing. It is

493
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,680
Speaker 2: even amazing to look back on this because like, how

494
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 2: how kind of like, for lack of a better term, bad,

495
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 2: this twenty fifteen Mets team was in the run.

496
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Speaker 3: They went on.

497
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Speaker 1: They had no business making the World Series in the playoffs.

498
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Speaker 1: They just the combination of the pitching being unbelievable and

499
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Speaker 1: the grace of God Jaic de Grom just all of

500
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Speaker 1: a sudden becoming like like.

501
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at who we have.

502
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 1: Jacob de Gram, Matt Harvey, Noah cinder Guard like new

503
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Speaker 1: generation K. And then of course just you Wan Assessment

504
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 1: is putting the team on his back literally for two months.

505
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 2: I mean Greenwich and also had a fantastic season. Murphy

506
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 2: and do that both had really good seasons like Wilmer Floyd,

507
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Speaker 2: I mean everything that Wilmer Floores did during that regular season.

508
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 2: It was also a big moment for them to kind

509
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 2: of bite the bullet and ADMD the Michael Godyre thing

510
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 2: was not working, like that's Fordo coming up. Yes, that's

511
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 2: a lot of credit to Terry, It's a lot of

512
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Speaker 2: credit to Sandy, and again like shout out to the

513
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 2: people who were running the farm at this time. It

514
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Speaker 2: was Tommy Tannis Guy and director I mentioned Paul Deepadesta

515
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 2: Ian Levin took over this year. Like their wets were

516
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 2: churning out draft picks that were turning into actual major

517
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 2: league Calira players, which was a really big deal. The

518
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 2: only the only reason they were able sustain with these

519
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: off seasons and losing all those draft picks, the qualifying

520
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: off and like bringing guys like Addison.

521
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: Reid at the deadline like Addison Reed was Oh man,

522
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: I'd kill for Addison Reed right now.

523
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 2: In the New York Mets, that guy was a dog.

524
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 1: Tyler Clifford sucked in the playoffs, but he was a

525
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 1: big reason why the Mets even got there. Like those

526
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: guys being at the back end of the bullpen with

527
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 1: Jerry's familia locking it down forty three saves that year

528
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 1: one eight five r Everything went right for the Mets.

529
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: When the first half of the season everything went wrong,

530
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: everything went right in the second half and then Daniel

531
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Speaker 1: Murphy playoffs, it's non stop pinning home runs became Barry

532
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Speaker 1: Bonds for two weeks.

533
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Speaker 2: That was unbelievable. But again funny that because in this

534
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 2: exercis Roller was great in the offseason. I think it's

535
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Speaker 2: an f This might be Yeah, this might have been

536
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Speaker 2: the worst one, the worst one we've seen so far. Yeah.

537
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Speaker 2: Michael Cadyer.

538
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Speaker 1: By the way, Mets paid a qualifying off on a

539
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Speaker 1: guy that they signed at age thirty five in Michael Kadyer, and.

540
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Speaker 3: The year before thirty three and Chris Granderson.

541
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Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable that the wherewith all of these teams

542
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 1: just completely lacked.

543
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Speaker 2: So now we're going to go through a funny offseason

544
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 2: this like this one. I'm actually excited to grade because

545
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 2: this will be by far the most expensive offseason grade

546
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Speaker 2: so far. The Mets coming off the World Series appearance,

547
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 2: feeling really good, wanting to push the Chips back in

548
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: and probably signing some contracts they should not have signed

549
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 2: in retro respect.

550
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, sou looking at this Mets offseason, we know the

551
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: big albatross that I think the Mets had to They

552
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 1: had to sign it.

553
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 2: They had to do this move.

554
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: You want a cesspas three or seventy five million dollars,

555
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: So they didn't do it. I don't know what the

556
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: Mets could have even possibly done as a team offensively

557
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: without him, because even in that first season he was unbelievable.

558
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: It's just that the years to follow he kind of

559
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 1: kind of disappeared.

560
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: It also became a situation where and again, this is

561
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 2: what the Wolponds used to do against I don't want

562
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: to bring up PTSD for anybody, but when other big

563
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: time players came available the offseason following this, namely twenty

564
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 2: nineteen with Bress, Harper Manium Macha, though two of the

565
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: most absolute lockstep these ways a franchise ever had to

566
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Speaker 2: like really improve your fortunes in one shot. The Wilpons'd

567
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: be like, I don't know how many teams out there

568
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: of two twenty five million dollar players. So it's like,

569
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: if we could have signed you, Sesspas to one million

570
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: fewer dollars, and it could have been twenty twenty four,

571
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Speaker 2: twenty four and two thirds million, like or twenty four

572
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 2: to third million where this team could have actually been.

573
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: But again that was also them just bullshitting us trying

574
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Speaker 2: to do that. But like there was also an element

575
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Speaker 2: of this offseason where it was sess with his first

576
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: Daniel Murphy as who was going to be resigned by

577
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: the team. Yeah, and it's funny to look back on

578
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: that one because those years in Washington, Murphy was unbelievad

579
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: just what the men's could useall And again like also

580
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen match were a good team, Like, yeah, playoffs,

581
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 2: we're chastising somebody's moves that happened at the top was awesome.

582
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: That first year he was incredible.

583
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Speaker 3: Oh fantastic.

584
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean he still played one hundred and thirty games,

585
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: he still hit It was like it was thirty home

586
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: runs like.

587
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: That was great.

588
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 2: But one of the most underrated moves for this era

589
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: of Mets baseball was this Droublel Cabrera. He was awesome

590
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, so good as Drouble Corbret was a

591
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: very fun move signier at age thirty. I'm hoping we

592
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: get a little bit of this influence now in this

593
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: season coming with the horri Placco signing, Like that's the

594
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: one I'm trying to link link in my head to

595
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: be like this new version of as Droublel Cabrera a

596
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: drouple also get a little different because Droublel Corbrera they

597
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: slowed him in to play shortstop when he's thirty years

598
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 2: old on this contract, right trying third base, he's playing there.

599
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: This was this was an era like basically a two year,

600
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: nineteen million dollar deal. He was a three win player.

601
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 2: He had that huge come runing against the Phillies, Like

602
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: there was very fun as Drubl Cabrera moments, the as

603
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: man is he was so so kindly out and again

604
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: still just even spending this much in offseason. Happily, the

605
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: Wolpons went to one hundred and twenty two million still

606
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: wound up playing James Loney for one hundred games and

607
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 2: it was just like and and the Corpse of Jose

608
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 2: Rays for sixty.

609
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Also an underrated move to bringing Neil Walker wasn't not

610
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: free agent, but it was through trade trade. The trade

611
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: John nice for him. Neil Walker was unbelievable that year too.

612
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: Twenty three home runs, eight twenty oh ps in about

613
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty games for the Mets.

614
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: That was huge. That was kind of.

615
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: Even more of the Wilmer Flores awakening for Mets fans,

616
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: which was really fun. We brought back Kelly Johnson again.

617
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: He was great again for this team. Canford, Oh, that

618
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: was his down year. Funny enough, like we were really

619
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Speaker 1: depending on him. He didn't show up really that season

620
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: for a bit.

621
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Speaker 3: Here's the flip side though, of these.

622
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Speaker 2: There were a few contracts Mets gave out of course

623
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Speaker 2: that dat backfire beccep's how these exercises work, the main

624
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: one being Antonio Bistar though yes so two years twelve mil.

625
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Speaker 1: One of the few times I remember like viciously screaming

626
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: when a player came into a game. Not only was

627
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Speaker 1: he horrendous the numbers, there's nothing good to come from

628
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: Antonio but started being a Met, but he was a

629
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: human rain delay on the mound. He literally would take

630
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: a minute and a half between every pigeon, like you're

631
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: gonna walk him, You're gonna walk them, or you give

632
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: up a nuke. Just rip the band aid off. I'm

633
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: tired of it. He was so so bad. And then

634
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: the other guy on this list that drove me absolutely

635
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: into Alejandro Diaza because not for a second had Alejandro

636
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: Daza ever been a good player, never had for a

637
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: second had he been an average player. He had been literal,

638
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: literally awful his entire career in the Mets. Said one year,

639
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: six million, and you know what, You're gonna play centerfield

640
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: and you're.

641
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: Gonna lead off sometimes for this team. It was insane.

642
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: It also was funny at the time.

643
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: I don't remember if the Daza move was before this

644
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: signed Sespis or after, but with Cespedus you had Confordo Sesspis,

645
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: Granderson ready to go, so it's like, where's the six

646
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: million dollar raffi fitting? And we knew with the time

647
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: how tight the Mets budget was, and this was a

648
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: move that you look back on it this was why

649
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: why world are you doing this year, team right now,

650
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: brought back Bartolo.

651
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: He actually had the best season of his Mets career

652
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, so funny enough that one worked out.

653
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: How old was he that in forty three when they

654
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: signed him to that contract.

655
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 2: We also got the Brandon Nemo debut this season, so

656
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: this was again still a fun year for the Mets.

657
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen ran.

658
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: Into the buzz saw the will go Selman saved the

659
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: team at the end of the year. I drewble off

660
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: of Edinburgh Ramos with the hands up hitting the home run.

661
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Speaker 2: That was the one I said before against the Phillies.

662
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: It was again this was this was a very fun

663
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: Mets season to look back on. A nice a nice

664
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: encore to the World Series team and just but again

665
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: when he got rant to the bus saw on massive bumgarner,

666
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: but just an offseason that wound up foreshadowing what was

667
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: going to be the next downfall of the Mets.

668
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, as much as at the time, I don't think

669
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: it was bad and as Druble was great, this one's

670
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: got to be I think a d because there was

671
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: a positive but that sess but his contract became an albatross.

672
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: Became albatross because the Mets made it in albatross just

673
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: should not have become an albatross, really, but it did

674
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: though kind of like again looking like looking back is

675
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: funny to be like, Yeah, that three years, seventy five

676
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: million dollar contract became an albatross for the for the

677
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: thirty year old guy who still hit thirty home runs

678
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: that following season, Like it just it was it was

679
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: more walking and albatroz. Like I'm still giving the sea because, like,

680
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: process wise, I don't think that contract should have screwed them.

681
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: I still don't.

682
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I was still always upset about the whole

683
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 2: way the Murphy stuff went down. But best started though,

684
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: I mean Cabrera and we also we gave Jerry Bluffs

685
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: the major league contract offseason. I was very happy for

686
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: Jerry to get his because he was such a big

687
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: part of that twenty fifteen runs.

688
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll give it a see because you're right,

689
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: because I forget that the context is that you want

690
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: to assessment as mega contract comes in the next year.

691
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: Yes, this is when it gets this one, it actually

692
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: starts to get bad.

693
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, four years, one hundred and ten million dollars, twenty

694
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: seven and a half million, so they said we saw

695
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: good pay him. We saw him even better, pay him

696
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: even more. And there was the one year opt out. Yeah,

697
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: and that's when you want to assess. But it has

698
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: just stopped being able to really play baseball at any

699
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: sort of rate.

700
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we had extended him the qualifying offer after

701
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: he opted out, so we did have leverage in the market,

702
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: leverage I don't think the team used very well. We

703
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: also extended Neil Walker qualifying offer and he signed it,

704
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: which was like, yeah, fun, cool, cool for Neil. There

705
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 2: also gave Jerry Blumans another big rays because he deserve that.

706
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: Fernando Salace came in that three million dollar contract. I

707
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: think Fernando Salace was like a I don't know, you

708
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: can yell me. You were saying he was a bit

709
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: of a he was a bit of a miss misrepresented

710
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: reliever in the meslaw. He just he just was very good.

711
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: It was just one of those things where this was

712
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: the time where Terry Collins was starting to lose a

713
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: little bit and he was just going to the same

714
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: three pitchers every single time there was any kind of

715
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: issue in the game, Like how many times Cauny I

716
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: possibly clicked the Hansel Robles button like how many times

717
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: got click at that time? Again the Jerry Blevins, But

718
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: Jerry Blevins got into seventy five games and Jerry was great, awesome,

719
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: Jerry was again amazing player. Jerry Bleven's earning the ten

720
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: million dollars over these two years with some of the

721
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: best money the Mets spend in this entire era. The

722
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: problem is the rest of it was not And as

723
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: you know, the Mets did not make the playoffs that year.

724
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: It was an extremely disappointing season and I.

725
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: Make the playoffs, came in last seventy games terrible.

726
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, this is this is a bad one.

727
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: This one's definitely gonna go down as what an f

728
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: God Yeah, j B, this is f because.

729
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: They were again there were holes to plug. When that

730
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen Mets won on the run, it seemed so

731
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: obvious that there were so many whole that team. They're

732
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: very fortunate to get to the spot they wound up in.

733
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: And then the Mets wins have off season being like,

734
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: let's run it back. Plus Fernando Solis, yeah did not.

735
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: That was that was the only that was the only

736
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: acquisition that was made in the free agent market that

737
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 2: was not the team the year before. Surely it's going

738
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: to get better, James the twenty eighteen offseason.

739
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: Oh, it has to get better, right, There's no way

740
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: he gets worse.

741
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

742
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: This is this is prime draftneckmark content starting to be created,

743
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: starting to do some MLB news. Jay Bruce three years,

744
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: thirty nine million dollars. We sent him to Cleveland, then

745
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: we brought him back and paid him on a pretty

746
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: big contract, honestly for a guy that kind of didn't

747
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: have a position anymore. Todd Frazier on a two year,

748
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollar contract, the Todd father, never forget my boy.

749
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: Jason Vargas two for sixteen, paying him US currency was insane.

750
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: The only thing that was crazier is giving fourteen million

751
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: dollars to Anthony Swarzak over two years.

752
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: Who I don't even think made it half a season

753
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: with the Mets. He was so bad.

754
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: Didn't he wind up in the trade for Fredman dis.

755
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Edwin Diaz, Yeah, it was him and Bruce. I think,

756
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: go from the trade with for Edward Navis. This was

757
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: also like when you start making content.

758
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: This is when I started to kind of familiarize myself

759
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: more with the ancient scrolls ashen I was reading a

760
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: lot more baseball perspectives fangrass, like really familiarizing myself like

761
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: late in college with this kind of stuff going on.

762
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: I remember like the Todd Fraser contract was like kind

763
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: of one of my eye opening moments where I was like,

764
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why we're giving this guy's contract. My

765
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: dad was like, what do you mean the good home

766
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: run hit to come around? I was like the park

767
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: factor between the Yankees and Cincinnati coming to the city field,

768
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: Like there's no ways going to have that same level

769
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: of power. He was like, Wow, what the what the

770
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: fuck is this kid talking about?

771
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was definitely a bit tough on Todd Fraser

772
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: to say the least.

773
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: I know he's our buddy now a foul territory, but uh, Like.

774
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: Funny enough, his two first two seasons with the Mets,

775
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: like he actually was I'm pretty fine.

776
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: Like totally okay. Nothing nothing that happened with this team

777
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: was his fault.

778
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

779
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: He was like a two and a half win player

780
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: each of those seasons. That's kind of all you could

781
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: ask for, especially on the contract. That he was given

782
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: at the time, which was two for seventeen mil. Like

783
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: they gave Anthony Swarzak similar money.

784
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean.

785
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: Again, Dallars per War Todd Frasier was a hit this

786
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen Mets team. Also, you felt like it should

787
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: have been better. Like this is when Nimo broke out

788
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: of his shell and turned into a real good player.

789
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: This is when just all the hopes and dreams were

790
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: surrounding on Edversario in his two ninety five batting average.

791
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: Also the start of the worst kept secret in baseball,

792
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: Mickey Callaway.

793
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't even gonna reference that. I don't even

794
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: know what they call him. This was remember remember April

795
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, though, how good this team looked.

796
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: They were so good, they were so awesome, And again

797
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: this was This was also the beginning of Jacob de

798
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: Gram being what he was. This was the true Zach

799
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: Wheeler breakout when the Wolfpons didn't want to pay him

800
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: for one year of pitching. Well. Cinder Gar also was

801
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: still very good this year, Like this was a nice

802
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: moment for the Mets if they had any way to

803
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: fill in the talent this roster. Besides, again I mean again,

804
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: j Brews, Todd Fraser were not really the problems with

805
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: this team. No, it was signing race this time was crazy.

806
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: Giving Anthony Swarzak fourteen million dollars of US currency was crazy.

807
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: Vargas was insane.

808
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Jason Vargus pitched ninety two winnings of a year six

809
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: RA that season, Like that's crazy.

810
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: Also shout out Corey Oswalt.

811
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: Never forget James he uh sixty four innings near sixty

812
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: r because that's what Coreo Aswall did not a free

813
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: agen sign.

814
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: Just had to mention it. Yeah, the Mets were also

815
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: this offseason, like you were involved for Lorenzo Kinge. We

816
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 2: feel like that was something that could have happened. This

817
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: is when there was like a moment for Jake Arieta

818
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: when we didn't really know what was going.

819
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: To happen next. Of course the Mets weren't involved with

820
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: these guys, but it was a It.

821
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: Was wayde Davis. He signed with the Rockies and one

822
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: of the probably one of the worst cut free age

823
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: of contracts I can remember from this time. It was

824
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: just it was a weak time for MLB free agency

825
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: in general, but the Mets still found a way not

826
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: to plug any of the whole No, absolutely not.

827
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give this one D as well. I don't

828
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: think this was very good.

829
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm comfortable giving us a D.

830
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: All right.

831
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen offseason, he got all the new rookies that

832
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: were coming up, all the young guys is a big year.

833
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo opening day the Mets. Offseason, they traded Jerry's

834
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: familia to the A's. Then they brought him back three years,

835
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars brought back this is the Brody Van

836
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: Wagon and era too, So we got to remember that

837
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: they made some trades. And they also brought in Jed

838
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: Lowry also from the A's two years, twenty million dollars.

839
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: We got the Buffalo Wilson Ramos two years nineteen from

840
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: the Phillies, Justin Wilson two years, ten million dollars from

841
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: the Cubs.

842
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: And then Joe Panic is listed on here, but I

843
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: think he was mid season.

844
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Joe Panic won for five to fifty five from the Giants.

845
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was this also, you have to throw into this.

846
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: This was when we gave Jacob de gram a nice, clean,

847
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: comfortable extension. So it's hard for me to take so

848
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: many shots at this offseason, even though it was again

849
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: you guys just heard those names and those dollars, a

850
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: pretty horrific offseason by any standards whatsoever, especially when again

851
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: Bryce harper Man and a child were incredibly available, like

852
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: and you just you weren't even involved in them as

853
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: a big market team because you were worried about Joanna

854
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: cespes Is twenty seven million dollars he was owed, which

855
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: kind of sucks in retrospect, but it's a This was

856
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: a team that with any kind of more pitching holes

857
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: that were plugged, you could have won the World Series.

858
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: If they had a tenth more pitching than what they had,

859
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: they easily make the playoffs. So they had two tenths,

860
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: so they had one fifth better pitching. Like you said,

861
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: they probably win the World Series. And it's a great

862
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: video by Foolish Baseball about how the Mets statistically that's

863
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: like one of the best offenses to ever exist in

864
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 1: baseball that year in twenty nineteen. Big part of it's

865
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: the juice balls and all that kind of stuff. But

866
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: at the same time, because Jerry Similia and Edwin Diaz,

867
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: who were again brought in to be the eighth ninth

868
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: lockdown and going into the year, you would have thought

869
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: that was a pretty good eight nine right there, Like

870
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: Jerry's Familia was still absolute money and Diaz was incredible,

871
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: and I think those guys combined for about like one

872
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty innings of a near six something era,

873
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: which is crazy.

874
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: No, And at the time I do understand why Mikey

875
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: was sticking with Edwin Diaz. You kind of have to

876
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: stick with him. But looking back, if there was more

877
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: of a aggressive rug pall and you would have just

878
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: gone to more Seth Lugu and Justin Wilson like they

879
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: finally did really down the stretch. Once we've got to

880
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: laid against September, this team would have made the playoffs.

881
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: And this team had all of the tools to go

882
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: on the same run the Nationals. We watched the Nationals

883
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: go on. Not being said soft season was also horrendous

884
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: well business because you have again ed in the Jacob

885
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: deGrom extension, like I said, but also the whole context

886
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 2: this offseason began with Robinson Cano Edin dz straight, So

887
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: the fact that all of that money that we probably

888
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: could have spent on players und up going to those instead,

889
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: Like the money you gave Robinson Cano.

890
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: Could have been pushed towards Manny Machado.

891
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: And then that would have really changed or Bryce Harper

892
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: anything in the last seven years in Mets baseball, thankfully

893
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: not you know, Patrick Corbin, like Aj Pollock or anything.

894
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: But like still like this was fun offseason, Like this

895
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: was there were guys out there that were fun. We

896
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: reviewed this offseason for the wind up. I don't know

897
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: which these are gonna come out first, but like if

898
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: you if you're interested by that, it's on the wind

899
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: up at some point.

900
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 3: And the mess really just bosched in such dramatic way.

901
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: Yes, one's gonna be an f for me as well.

902
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a firm F.

903
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: I gotta add into the Robsonono contract makes it a

904
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: bigger makes even.

905
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: Worse, all right, James, Right before COVID twenty twenty off season,

906
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: you remember where you were when Delan Matanza signed with

907
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: the Mets, because I do.

908
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I was going to our apartment a

909
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: story for the first time.

910
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: I think I was riding driving in the car with

911
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: my dad and I was not particularly happy with it

912
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: because I was just like, I don't it didn't have

913
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: anything to actually do with Delon Matanta as a player,

914
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: I was just like another Yankee, like, what's going on here?

915
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: What was it?

916
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Twenty I would have been how old in twenty twenty

917
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: I would have been twenty four before?

918
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty four year old.

919
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Mark was just a real big anti Yankee at the time,

920
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: still am But anything that had Yankee stank on now

921
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: I was out.

922
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: That wasn't your wildly anti Yankee. That was when you

923
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: do your champagne showers every year and they lost.

924
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: Had to make some viral content. You got a guy,

925
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: gets your name out there. That was an easy way

926
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: for me. But yeah, Dylan Betantz's one year, ten million dollars.

927
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: Rick Porcello won year ten million dollars. Michael Wachluki was

928
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: a sick deal. One year three million dollars.

929
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 3: Wasn't very good with the Mets. It was amazing deal. Yeah,

930
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: good process.

931
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: Brad Brock too for two point one million, which that's

932
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: I can't even believe they signed Brad Brock to multiple years.

933
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy.

934
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: And then remember Jared Hughes, he was a Met this

935
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: offseason one year, seven hundred thousand dollars. A lot of

936
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: this is also tainted by the fact that it was

937
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: a shortened season, It's kind of tough to judge these

938
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: guys truthfully.

939
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we also had Renee Rivera can't come into the

940
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: Mets that season. Again, he came back to the Mets

941
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: Matt Adams like this was just the whole year's kind

942
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: of washing. I think the best way to symbolize this

943
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: Met season is the I'm Edrosario walk off in Yankee

944
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: Stadium for the Mets. Like, if that video goes around,

945
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: you're like, what, like Dom Smith ca MVP votes is

946
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: like ystopian what happened? But again, my process wise, Michael

947
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: Wauka and Rick Procello gets some cheap innings. Sure, Like

948
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: it's funny to look back and that Michael Waka is

949
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: still pitching well in Major League Baseball and Rick Procello

950
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: gum win three times the amount of money that Walker received.

951
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: And a big reason why is a lot of the

952
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: changes that he made with the Mets because his k

953
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: rate bumped up a ton that year he came to

954
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: the Mets. That kind of like saved his career despite

955
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: the era being about as bad as it could have been. Yeah,

956
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: it was bad, but also like if Michael Waka would

957
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: have gone to pitch more than the thirty innings he

958
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: went pitching. That ra probably levels out really really well.

959
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: It's just this was the nature of the short season,

960
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: why this season meant nothing in hind sech But also,

961
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: if we are going to graded, I think almost every

962
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: single one of these guys pitched poorly for the Mets.

963
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 2: So no, there's another firmat one of the firm stats

964
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: we've had over the last few years. Again, if you've

965
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: got a sensing a theme, this, Mets offseasons have always

966
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 2: been really really bad, at least in the last fifteen years,

967
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: almost almost impossibly bad.

968
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: Honestly, you could look back and name so many good

969
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: players the Mets were linked to.

970
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Almost none of them. And again this was the last

971
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: offseason before the big change getting Steve Cohen, and we

972
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: still did see this was just not even being remotely

973
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: involved in either Garret Cole or Zach Wheeler is so

974
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: painful in hindsight, just because a well Keny of course,

975
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: not one good season. I can pay them for one

976
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: good season, just for how good those guys would have been.

977
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: Even a guy like hinjan Rio, who was not great,

978
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: but he was a stabilizing factor for a Blue Jays

979
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: team that at least had made wins a playoff runs, though,

980
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: and then that during his four year deal, Like there

981
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: were players out there that really could have helped this

982
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: Mets team that just did not do so.

983
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one off season, all right, beginning of the

984
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: new beginning of the new Steve cohen eera. Francisco Lindor,

985
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: what are the moves they're gonna follow? What are we

986
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: gonna fill it up with?

987
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: All right?

988
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: How about the biggest contract we give out that year,

989
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 1: James mckayon four years, forty million dollars and I loved

990
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: it at the time. Taiwan Walker three years, twenty three

991
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: million dollars. Honestly one of the better contracts that they

992
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: gave out. Kind of funny in retrospect. Marcus Stroman, Remember

993
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: we traded for Marcus Stroman. He's back one year et

994
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: pourt nine million on.

995
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: The qualifying offer.

996
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: Trevor May two years, fifteen million dollars. Also, just for context,

997
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: to give Trevor May two for fifteen one years ago,

998
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: we gave Anthony Swarzak.

999
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: The same thing is insane. It's just it's nuts to

1000
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: say out loud.

1001
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: We also gave Kevin Pillar a two year contract, which

1002
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 1: feels crazy at the time Jonathan VR, the Mets brought

1003
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: in Aaron Loup, Albert al Mora, and never forget the

1004
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: Sam McWilliams offseason.

1005
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: No, no, I was so into Samon Wollis. I was ready.

1006
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: No one was more in though than Wardy. I think

1007
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Wardy still thinks about that guy all every day.

1008
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: This is funny.

1009
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: This is when we started doing the podcast I had

1010
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: this off season. I really started to remember so funny

1011
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: thing about that James McCann contract. That was the one, two, three, four,

1012
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: five six, seventh highest contract by total value given out

1013
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: that offseason by any team.

1014
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: I mean, like it ended up being so so bad,

1015
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: but like, truthfully, at the end of the day, like

1016
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: forty million over four years is not the worst thing

1017
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: that could have happened.

1018
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: There's definitely worse.

1019
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: It's just James mu cann played about as bad as

1020
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: he could have and also was almost never healthy.

1021
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: He sucked.

1022
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: He wasn't even good leading into this contract. I was

1023
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: viscerally up a good year with He was a juice

1024
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: ball guy. He got so pumped by the juice balls.

1025
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: It was like the one fake juice ball season but

1026
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 2: we've seen very obvious what was going on here. This

1027
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: This was the This was the epitome of like, all right,

1028
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: Steve Cone is here, let's spend some money. We're throwing

1029
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: shit against the wall. Yeah, and I having fun doing it.

1030
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: McCain was bad.

1031
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: Taiwan was good three for twenty three, Like that's that's good,

1032
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: no matter how you slice it.

1033
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: No time was our day man that year. Every single

1034
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: time he pitched the day game, he was funny. And

1035
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: it was like that was kind of the lesson of

1036
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: like how important those like chat innings years are at

1037
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: the time. And this BET's team in the first half

1038
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: was like considered the playoff team and they played like it.

1039
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: They fought through so many injuries.

1040
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: Early on, he had the famous who was at James

1041
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: Mcamp playing first base for a period of time. But

1042
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 2: like and you see, you still had the Covid stuff

1043
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: where like Covid would run rampant through a team and

1044
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: he just had five guys out for a game. And

1045
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: Lindor was terrible in this first year, really bad. And

1046
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: then he picked up the hamstring make the trade for

1047
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: Hobby Buys Pek Armstrong. But like this this offseason was

1048
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: at least a really nice time where the Mets were

1049
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: exerting legitimate amounts of effort, and I felt like as

1050
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: a fan, I was beginning to feel uplifted by the

1051
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: concept of what could come, even though again looking back,

1052
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: this offseason was egregiously bad.

1053
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and front office stuff was also very, very murky

1054
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: at the time as well. Yeah, we went through a couple,

1055
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: We went through a couple league executives that year. The

1056
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: things happened for three executives in one calendar year. Yeah,

1057
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: three executives, two managers, No big deal, who cares. Not

1058
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: not a serious thing going on there at all. This

1059
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: co Jose Piraza, he had that great day game home

1060
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: run against what was it the Brewers man against he

1061
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: owns Josh haders Ass.

1062
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. Also, this was when we reportedly

1063
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: signed the pitcher who was dealt with legal issues that

1064
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: wounded up in Japan.

1065
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: Sucks now and why not being true?

1066
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: So pretty good move by us at the end of

1067
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: the day, not get them dodge that bullet, which was

1068
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: really really nice. And we also didn't give the Jla

1069
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: Mayho ninety million dollars that's just cool, which is big. Yeah,

1070
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: this was a c off season.

1071
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: I think I'd say, no, this is still this is

1072
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: still a firm date.

1073
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: This is the d Taiwan was good, Marcus Stroman was

1074
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: good in the In the next year, trumpor May was

1075
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: a good reliever. I think it's just they got nothing

1076
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: offensively at all.

1077
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess maybe I'm being a little too hard.

1078
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: I mean, the VR thing was fun too.

1079
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: Chaos Player even Kevin p Our big big hit against

1080
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: the Reds. Don't forget that chaos game and the.

1081
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: Hit in the face the Mets up Messed Up podcast

1082
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: first viral tweet, Yes, that was a big one, and

1083
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: also bringing an Aaron Loop for nothing.

1084
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: How good he was was awesome. Yeah, all right, you

1085
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: swaye me. I'll go up to a city, all.

1086
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: Right, see for twenty twenty one.

1087
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: That's also again in context how bad Mets offseasons has

1088
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: been that this is one of the better ones we've

1089
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: talked about.

1090
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: Next one gets really fun though.

1091
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: Yes, this is where, uh the Steve Cohen money really

1092
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: started to kick, We really started flowing. And this is

1093
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: Billy Eppler, right, This was Billy Eppler.

1094
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: This was also the lockout segmenting the off season, where

1095
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: the off season begins with us signing Max Scherzer to

1096
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: an outrageously fun contract. That was when the Messed Up

1097
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: podcast actually kind of really actually began. Yeah, that's when we.

1098
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: Went megaviral for hosting a Twitter spaces at the time,

1099
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: because it was like Max Scherzer Watch, and the Mets

1100
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: found out about us through one of our Twitter spaces,

1101
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: and that's how we ended up working for the team.

1102
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 2: That's simple.

1103
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: We just we had a lot of people listening to us,

1104
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: and it was the perfect timing of MLB teams partnering

1105
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: up with a podcasting company where every single team had

1106
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: to produce a podcast for their organization. And luckily we

1107
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: were like the only Mets podcast at the time that

1108
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: had viewership that wasn't produced by.

1109
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: Somebody, So that was good. Yeah, it was perfect, worked

1110
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: that well for us, and again worked out well for

1111
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: the Mets until the last two starts of the year.

1112
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: Sures was amazing, Like that was also just it was

1113
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: a real indication that the team had to be taken seriously.

1114
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: I think it was very important to side him like

1115
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: it was. It was even honestly, the signals to the

1116
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: guys in the room, like guys like Nimo, like McNeil,

1117
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: like this was like a door. Yeah, I mean.

1118
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: Lindor was still in door. Like we knew he would

1119
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: bounce back.

1120
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Like a little vote vote of confidence of like we're

1121
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: gonna spend, you're gonna be this is not the Cleveland Guardians.

1122
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

1123
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: And also similar thing once the lockout ended, right after that,

1124
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: getting good solid started.

1125
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: Oh no, this was still before, wasn't it.

1126
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: When we did the flurry of veterans like the Mark

1127
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: Cannon where the West Bar star Wars. I remember that.

1128
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: I don't remember the timing of it. It had to

1129
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: be before. I think, though, I guess it was before

1130
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: because I feel like I remember like having a pregame

1131
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: my apartment for a concert, and like these things were happening.

1132
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: I was like, oh damn, Like the Mets are actually

1133
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: just signing tons of free agents right now. It was

1134
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: actually a lot of fun.

1135
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're picking off Starling Martey for your seventy eight

1136
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: million dollars from the A's along with Markanna two years, twenty.

1137
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: Six million dollars. I think two fan favorites.

1138
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: I know Marte wasn't great towards the end, but like

1139
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: I do think the fans loved these guys.

1140
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: Oh all fan favorites, Marte Cannon, Escubar, and again, this

1141
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: to me was like the ushering end of like that,

1142
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: this is a big Mark off season, just like huge markofs.

1143
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: Two guys that I loved for kind of not really

1144
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: any specific reasons, Starling Martina and Wardo Escbar.

1145
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, they're Mets. I love these guys.

1146
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: And one guy named Mark.

1147
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: Yes, one guy named Mark Markana spelled it the wrong way,

1148
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: but he was he was great. Like all three of

1149
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: those guys were awesome in twenty twenty two, and.

1150
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: Also twenty twenty two for paying Adam out of you know,

1151
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: four million dollars, he was one of the best relievers

1152
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: in baseball. I know a lot of people were frustrated

1153
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: by Adam the way the final years of his Mets

1154
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: tenure went down, But twenty twenty two he was literally

1155
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: one of the best relievers in baseball, including Edvardiez, who

1156
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: was the best reliever in baseball. Yeah, those guys, plus

1157
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: Seth Lugo, Like that's how we kind of became this,

1158
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: I was how we were sustained a loastics with that like.

1159
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: Three head monster at the back end.

1160
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: And while I think there are some like weird feelings

1161
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: of what happened with Scherzer towards the end of being

1162
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: a met just because of like the teardown and the

1163
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: fact that like in twenty twenty three he really wasn't

1164
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: good at all for this team, like people in the

1165
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: starts against the Brazen Podya and the and the starts

1166
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: at the end of the year.

1167
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: But like it was nasty. I do think this was

1168
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: a great offseason.

1169
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: Like this, this is amazing, by far, the best offseason

1170
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: I think that we've had in this entire video.

1171
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also maybe a good like it's a

1172
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: good lesson maybe if with the Metsica deed right now,

1173
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: just like after the lockout, the trade for Chris Bassett

1174
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: one hundred day of the innings, Yeah, Taiwan got to

1175
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: one sixty, Carrasco won fifty or one fifty to gram

1176
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: you know, came back at the end, he did what

1177
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: he had to do. David Peterson mixing in for his

1178
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 2: one hundred, like it was Silor Cyloris, Trevor Williams throwing

1179
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: ninety innings like this was we had these chatt innings eaters,

1180
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: we had out there was it was just fun to

1181
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: watch this guys show up and pitch'd be a lot

1182
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: of what we see this year.

1183
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: Trying to get some some chatt innings out of some

1184
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: of these guys on the Mets rotation. Right now, James,

1185
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 1: what are you gonna give this offic season?

1186
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I probably still give this a A I

1187
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: was gonna give him. It was a moment in time

1188
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: that like kind of signified what we were going to be.

1189
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: And also, don't forget the fact we tried to save

1190
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: John Curtis, tried to give John Curtis the contract and

1191
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: fixed that alarm wasn't in the cards, but we tried

1192
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: really hard.

1193
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: No, I've never seen a picture take as good of

1194
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: like fungos, well not fungos, I'm not saying whenever, whenever

1195
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: the pictures are on the outfield during during baging practice,

1196
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: that guy was robbing home runs consistently, one of the

1197
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: one of the best picture outfielders I've ever seen in

1198
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: my life.

1199
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: While we're covering from injury, which was amazing.

1200
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: All right, twenty twenty three off season, So the Mess

1201
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: one disappointing end of the season. Obviously, we know they

1202
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: choked at the end and then got bounced by the Padres.

1203
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: But Brandon nemo career season centerfield went absolutely off. We

1204
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: paid him eight years, one sixty two man, this is crazy.

1205
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: Edwin Da five years, one hundred and two million dollars.

1206
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: We said, we got one old guy, let's bring in

1207
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: the other one that Steve Cohen knows. Justin Verlander two years,

1208
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: eighty six million dollars. So to Verlander and sures Or,

1209
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: I think they were getting paid eighty six million dollars

1210
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: total for the year. We got Coodeisanga from Japan. Five year,

1211
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: seventy five million. We got Jose Kintana didn't know he

1212
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: had a tumor, broke his ribs.

1213
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Two years, twenty six million dollars. Up until that point,

1214
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: all good signings pretty much. And then Omarnerviris two for fifteen,

1215
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: maybe one of the worst Mets players in history.

1216
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: We re upped at the Montofino after a great year.

1217
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: Didn't really bounce back or pitch.

1218
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: Ever the same.

1219
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: Again, I think the one year he was fine. In

1220
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: the second year of that contract, it was really rough.

1221
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: David Robertson one year ten million was actually money. Tommy

1222
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: fam this was the start of James Tommy Fam stuff.

1223
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: And then Danny Mendick won year one million dollars.

1224
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: This was not the start of my Tommy fanma was

1225
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: I was locked in Tommy famsin is the Cardinals days.

1226
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: Was that was my boy over there.

1227
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: But this was the classic case of like we got

1228
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: really excited things went pretty well the year before despite

1229
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: disappointing ending, let's get the band back together and plug

1230
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 2: up the holes with the oldest people we.

1231
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: Can possibly find.

1232
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: And I will say I don't think it was still

1233
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it was. The Mets did just violently

1234
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: under This wasn't a bad offseason, but it just it

1235
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: wound up being a bad offseason because of what these

1236
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: contracts kind of became. Like when I did my video

1237
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: on my channel a month ago about what the Mets

1238
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: plan is right now, I think that.

1239
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 3: This is the blueprint of the off season.

1240
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: They specifically did not want to have correct because again

1241
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: we're again we also don't forget to jeffmcneil extension as well.

1242
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: But like at the time, like these Diaz and Nemo contracts,

1243
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: they felt I was happy to have these guys back.

1244
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: We also looked around like it's just a lot of

1245
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: money for these guys.

1246
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: But also I think that Brandimo's probably gonna get Maybe

1247
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: the years would have been the difference, but brand Neimo

1248
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: was gonna get north of twenty million dollars a year

1249
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: if he signed a contract. Like coming off of that

1250
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: playing the centerfield defense that he had and the offensive

1251
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: year that he had, you were like, man, do do

1252
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: we just get one of the better center fielders in

1253
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: baseball right now?

1254
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? The nexus of that was like, give me two

1255
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: to three years of centerfield defense and then be a

1256
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: good corner outfielder for the next two to three years.

1257
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: Then we just have two more years the back end.

1258
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: We could figure those out when the time comes. But

1259
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: that just and we did, and we traded them. Yeah, exactly.

1260
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: Like maybe that was an example of this offseason the

1261
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: Mets medicals not being as stero as they should have been,

1262
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: because again we missed Hoose Kintana's tumor in his ripcage

1263
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: that led to a stress fraction. We missed the entire

1264
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: first half of the season. He was exactly what the

1265
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: mess probably needed to get through the first half of

1266
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: that season because the wheels fell off quickly, as you

1267
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: guys remember sold at the deadline started to replenish the

1268
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: farm system started to look towards the future, got the buckshow.

1269
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: All the thing thankfully ended at that time.

1270
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: Billy Eppler as well, like it was beginning of some

1271
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: real chaos, but it was a prelude to twenty twenty four,

1272
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: which trying to being great. Also, don't think it was

1273
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: a bad offseason. I'd probably I think I'd give this

1274
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: one a B. I still I don't know in retrospect

1275
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: looking back, like those Nimo and DS contracts were crazy.

1276
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: It's funny also that this those situations were also only

1277
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: came to a head this passed offseason. This feels like

1278
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: a long time ago. Feels like a long time ago.

1279
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I the Nimmo contract, I think, like

1280
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: for what it's been for us, I still think it

1281
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: was fine. Fine.

1282
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: Like we get we're worried about the next three years,

1283
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: but he's not on the team anymore. So in the

1284
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: time that he was here, I think it was still

1285
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: completely fine to pay him twenty million dollars a year.

1286
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: Edwin was great.

1287
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: Besides blowing out his knee, Verlander was good in like

1288
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: the eight starts he made for the Mets.

1289
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: He was Yeah, he only made it because he also

1290
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: got injured in the even season the terrorist major string

1291
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: Like Code I was awesome.

1292
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: Code that was great that year. This is also has fine.

1293
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so funny that the contract, like code

1294
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: it's still kind of unwritten. Yeah, like there's still a

1295
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: lot more work to be done to see where that

1296
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 2: contract actually wins. Code I gives us like one hundred

1297
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: twenty five innings this year. It's probably a pretty good contract.

1298
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: Even even at three six away. That contract all of

1299
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's tons of plus value. It's just is

1300
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: it's funny look back. There's also a fun off season

1301
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: for us because we were so involved in all these things. Yeah,

1302
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: like I got to interview Nimo one on one right

1303
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: when he signed that deal, and I love Nimo. Like

1304
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: we got to be in the press conference room and

1305
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: interview justin Verland, Code I and Code I saying god

1306
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: that was like this and Jeff.

1307
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: McNeil, Yes, this is a fun. This was a fun

1308
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: time for Mark and James.

1309
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: But we just spring training like we were.

1310
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: We were ripping it this offseason. Fun off season for us,

1311
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: fun off season for the Mets. I think Bee's fair.

1312
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: That's where I'm going with it.

1313
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: I'll go I'll give you the B.

1314
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: On that one, all right, twenty twenty four offseason. This

1315
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: one was fun, this one. This is it's David Stearns era.

1316
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: And if you look back at the David Stearns era

1317
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: and you see some of the contracts that have been handed.

1318
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: Out there, there's a pattern here.

1319
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. You starting a little bit of a pattern.

1320
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 2: Yes, and it is the lack of willingness to give

1321
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: multi year deals like they gave Sean and I the

1322
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: two for twenty eight, but that we know that was

1323
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: kind of knopped out.

1324
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kopped out, so it wasn't really two

1325
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: for twenty eight. Luis Svarino one for thirteen, Jad Martinez

1326
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: one for twelve, Harrison Bader one for ten, brought back

1327
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: out of Eno again because I think he might have

1328
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: opted out or whatever.

1329
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 2: It was, Shintaro.

1330
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: Fujinami, the Prodigal Sun that never was, Julio te Ron

1331
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: mich for the Mets. That you're Joey Wendel, Jorge Lopez

1332
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: who saved the season, can't forget him. We signed a

1333
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: sleeper sell agent Michael Tonkin Austin Adams, who then we

1334
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: cut and then when he got it out against US,

1335
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: it basically gave double middle fingers to the Mets.

1336
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: It said, oh, fuck yourself. This was the franchise. Though.

1337
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: This was fun because it was a chaos offseason. It

1338
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: was just it was fun to get a new process.

1339
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: It was fun to feel like we were trying something differ.

1340
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: Also funny because we were talking about like kind of

1341
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: chastising those like twenty tens off seasons when the Mets

1342
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: were only doling out like thirty forty fifty sixty million.

1343
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: Dollars in total contracts.

1344
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 2: This offseason, the Mets only doled out eighty million dollars

1345
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: in total money. The difference was they got like twelve players,

1346
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: where then it was like, oh, man, who are the

1347
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: guys that you resize again? Even getting twelve players, like

1348
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: most of these guys were complete non factors whatsoever? Whoji

1349
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: not mean non factor like Joey Wendell the opposite of

1350
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: non factor?

1351
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: Negative factor? Jor He Lopez negative factor? Positive factor, Yeah,

1352
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: positive factor. Awesome. Adams fucking hates the Mets. Hates the

1353
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 3: Mets to this day.

1354
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: He was he was making remarks about the Mets last

1355
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 2: year on the Athletics when they beat this in Sacramento, Like, dude,

1356
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: it was a roster crunch, man, I don't know what

1357
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: to tell you.

1358
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 3: Also, again like maybe it was just something.

1359
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: Again, it's clear like there could be some pattern here

1360
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 2: with the Mets and relievers, like we heard Adam Alvino

1361
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: say on his YouTube channel, because between him, Hory Lopez,

1362
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: Austin Adams, not a lot of guys that thank fondly

1363
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: of the Mets. No, definitely not. I think have to

1364
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: do more with the situations that they were in. But

1365
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: so yeah, again, so it's the way that the production

1366
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: you did get from bay Or Martinez, Severino and Ia though,

1367
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,479
Speaker 2: was completely seasoned, altering, Like that's what led this team

1368
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: on the run to get to the playoffs with the

1369
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: best record in baseball for an eighty game stretch and

1370
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: becomes two games away from reaching the world So each

1371
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: of these guys had their ebbs and flows, but definitely

1372
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: more ebbs than flows. Is that the right way to

1373
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: say it? I think more flows than ebbs bad. Ebbs

1374
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: are bad, ebbs were good.

1375
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Maybe I could be wrong on

1376
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: this too, man.

1377
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 2: You guys can less know in the comments.

1378
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: I I know the expression that I just know it

1379
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: means ups and downs, ebb.

1380
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: EBB is the outgoing wather that receives from the shore,

1381
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: and the flow is the incoming water. So yeah, the

1382
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: EBB is out and the flow is good.

1383
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: So ebbs bad, ebbs bad? Good? Well good, all right,

1384
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: Well they had the flows were better than the ebbs.

1385
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: I guess it also depends on what your relationship is

1386
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: like with the shore. The flow out could actually be

1387
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: good for you. It depends whatever, whatever however you see

1388
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: that fits for your own, your own personal preferences.

1389
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: The mets of the podcast discussed environmental strategies with ebbs

1390
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: and flows.

1391
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, this offseason pretty good. I means, if you

1392
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: guys made fifty minutes into this, now we get to

1393
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: really start talking nitty gritty about what we think is

1394
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: going to keep happening this offseason continues. But this was good, Like,

1395
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 2: this was a good This was a good sort to

1396
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: start to get confident of. David Searns era. Yeah, I

1397
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: think that this one's also given. It's gonna be a bee.

1398
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: I was gonna go ye.

1399
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: Because it was positive, But it's it's hard to give

1400
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: an a when you don't have like any basically all

1401
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: star signed in the offseason.

1402
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, it's like this is this is the

1403
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: epitome of dumpster Dave.

1404
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: R This when people talk about the boy genius, this

1405
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 2: is the off season that they think is gonna happen,

1406
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: when in retrospect it's not exactly. And then would you

1407
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: compare this to now we move to the next offseason,

1408
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: which one actually looked better in retrospect because you kind

1409
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: of avoid giving away to three to seventy five to

1410
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: sham Manya, you avoid the two for thirty four of

1411
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: the Frankie Montas. Those are the ones that completely just

1412
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: decimated and destroy this.

1413
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: Because actually the rest of the contracts give it out

1414
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: here were amazing. We're awesome, like everyone wants to again

1415
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: and he deserves blame. Didn't put together the best roster,

1416
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: but Wan Soda is one of the best players in

1417
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: baseball last year. We know that Pete Alonso was one

1418
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: of the best first basemen in baseball last year. We

1419
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: know that Clay Holmes gave you one hundred and seventy

1420
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: innings this year of a three to five ERA after

1421
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: being a lifetime reliever.

1422
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: That is such a slam dunk. Can't say it enough,

1423
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: aj Minter. The injury is the thing that hurt him,

1424
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: but he's still here. And when he pitched big Boom,

1425
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: aj was was lights out. I think this season goes

1426
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: a lot differently if aj Minch doesn't turnaoffs and we're

1427
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: I mean, definitely make the playoffs. Relying on aj Minter

1428
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: a lot to be a seventh to eighth inning guy

1429
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 2: this year. I think he's going to be a big

1430
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: part of this bullpen. And of course, like Kevin, yeah,

1431
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: me metcha Wan So though no I did mention want So,

1432
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: I said he was one of the best. Yeah, I

1433
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: was like Wan Soda the best players in baseball like

1434
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: that was that was insane. And then even dumpster Dave

1435
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: boy genius Gryffin Canning one million, four million dollars one year,

1436
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: he give his ninety innings. He was awesome.

1437
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: Griffin Canning until he literally blew out his achilles. He

1438
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: was such a major piece of this team. Brooks Raley

1439
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: coming back was great. The rest of the guys underneath

1440
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: not the most, but like even just I think Justin Hageman,

1441
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: that's one of your guys.

1442
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: He's got value.

1443
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: He was gonna pitch on this team again, and he wasn't.

1444
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: He wasn't unpitchable when the Mets have had unpitchable guys

1445
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: in similar scenarios.

1446
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 2: The problem was reliance on Justin Hageman, and the reliance

1447
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: on Justin Hagman came because again the contracts that were

1448
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: given of Frankie Montas and Sean and I wound up

1449
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: being the ones that really screwed this team.

1450
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: Yes, that's kind of it.

1451
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: And even though he's like looking back in the like

1452
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: the offseason last year, it's like, sure, there were definitely

1453
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: other players pitchers that would have liked the mess to

1454
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: try and sign, like in retrospect, like a guy like

1455
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: Max Freed, and even we said at the time Corden

1456
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: Burns would have been very unlikely to add them on

1457
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 2: top of the one solo contract. But like in terms

1458
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: of average annual value, like Sean and I and Max

1459
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: Freed are making almost same money. That part hurts.

1460
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like you just you just.

1461
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: Really needed stability and the hope is that Sean and

1462
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: I could provide stability and Frankie Mantas could provide you

1463
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: stability with upside. Those were wrong decisions, one hundred percent

1464
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: wrong decisions, and something that a slight lesson David Stearns

1465
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: may have learned where sometimes you wait out the market

1466
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: you can find a better deal in the backside. Yeah,

1467
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: that is what happened last year with the Nick Paveta contract,

1468
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 2: where he ends up being one of the more unheralded

1469
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 2: pitchers in the National League. He only signed for against

1470
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: four million that year. His contract john like twenty five

1471
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: million dollars this year. That's just because the Padres needs

1472
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: some fin fancy financial footwork over there try and figure

1473
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: out what's going on with their books. But it was

1474
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: a it was a real good ones shot. I have

1475
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: a hard time grading this one.

1476
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: Just because we're so close to it.

1477
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: Still No, because we got one of the five best

1478
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: players in baseball.

1479
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: That's that's unbelievable. And he's here for fifteen years. That's

1480
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. I who would I be to say anything

1481
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: but an ay.

1482
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: But it's also tough because this team massively underperformed and

1483
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: two of the big pigeon contracts that they gave out

1484
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 1: have been disasters so far. Seam and I can save

1485
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: it next year. He can give us one hundred and

1486
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: forty hundred and fifty innings and make this contract worth

1487
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: it without a doubt, it's just a little bit worried.

1488
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Also similar Clay homes, Like if we get

1489
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: another Clay Holmes jump, or even if we get Clay

1490
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: hool home exactly the same, I will exact same Clay homes.

1491
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to get an inch better. Yeah, I

1492
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: mean I would like it if he did. But again,

1493
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't, this contract is still incredibly worth it.

1494
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: It's also funny again going back to those off seasons

1495
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: a decade ago, the Mets spending like sixteen million total dollars.

1496
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: In this one, you spend a billion. Yeah, I mean,

1497
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 2: just think about the concept of that for a second.

1498
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: They did give a guy seven hundred and sixty five

1499
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: million dollars, but.

1500
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: They also gave two other guys over fifty, gave two

1501
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: other guys over thirty, another guy over twenty. Like the

1502
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: Mets spent fat last offseason, like they're ready to go.

1503
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: They plugged everything hold, like the Jesse Winker one year,

1504
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: eight million dollars vanity contract too. Like there were a

1505
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: lot of there were a lot of shots taking this

1506
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: offseason that really did not come to tuition. But most

1507
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: of them, not all of them, most of them you

1508
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: can still quit and see the process. What are you

1509
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: giving this one? I'm gonna go I'm gonna give it

1510
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: a B. I was also gonna do be because, like

1511
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: want so there was like a plus plus plus plus,

1512
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: but there was a lot of and also again the

1513
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: plans of contract lust year was so perfect. I still

1514
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: struggle to talk about Pete because I'm still sad. I'm

1515
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: still thinking about it, and i still want to know. Again,

1516
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: maybe by the time you guys listen to this, maybe

1517
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: we have a plans of replacement. Maybe maybe a big

1518
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: hit has been added to this lineup. We don't really know.

1519
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: A lot of roomors are flying around the time recording this,

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Speaker 2: but it was kind of a struggle genius last year

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00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: to be able to get him on that one year deal,

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00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: to make him the highest AAV for his basement and

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00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: to be another.

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Speaker 3: Key cog in the middle of this lineup.

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Speaker 1: It's the boy genius David Sterns sor Ry. Let's just

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Speaker 1: for two seconds talk about the twenty twenty six offseason

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00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: as it currently stands when we record this.

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00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so to let the people know where it

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00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: currently stands. That could change.

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00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: Devin Williams three years fifty one million, Hori Polonco two

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00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: for forty, Luke Weaver two for twenty two. We brought

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: back Dicky Love Lady one for one million. But I

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00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: think more so the conversation is not about the players

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: that have been brought in. It's about the players that

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00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: are no longer a part of this team. And I

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00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: think that's a tough pill that everyone has to swallow,

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00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: and that's what's gonna make this offseason kind of no

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00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: matter who they bring in, hurt for a lot of people.

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00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: A few moments later, time travel. It's now February nineteenth

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00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: and the Mets offseason is over, and I sounded like

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00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 2: a whiny little baby talking about how horrible the Mets

1542
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: offseason was. But to be fair, when we recorded, I

1543
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: think it was like January twelve through thirteenth, and almost

1544
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: days after that, the Mets got Bobaschett, traded for Freddy Parolta,

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00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: trader for Louise Robert, brought in the Talkman, the Sackman,

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00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: Mike Talkman. There was a lot of changes happening here,

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: and I do think that did change the field of

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00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: this offseason very much. So it was kind ofative a

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00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: negative moment there again. That's why we wanted to go

1550
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: through the old off seasons to be like, oh, it

1551
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: really isn't so bad, and everything I spun around on us.

1552
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: This episode wound up sitting for six weeks on the

1553
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: back burner. We got through the Super Bowl, almost all

1554
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs, But I mean, it's hard to gray

1555
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: an offseason before games are played.

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Speaker 3: But just based on.

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00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: My feelings going into the season, I feel like it's

1558
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 2: a firm a. I'm very excited about what this team

1559
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: can be this offseason. Yeah, me too.

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00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean Freddy Parolta frontline starter Aceky, we needed that badly.

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: We talked about how big of a difference maker that

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00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: could be for this team, and they went out and

1563
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: got him. They gave up a bunch, but they got

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00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: him and Tobias Myers, which were big additions for this team.

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: Bob Bashet's gonna mash again. Third base is still questionable,

1566
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: but he's gonna mash Louise Robert. We've been seeing the

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00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: spring training clips and my god, I'm excited, Oh my god, Yeah,

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01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: wait to put on Louise Louise Robber number eighty eight Jersey.

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: You can't wait to throw that on for opening Day. Yeah,

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01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: show Max Goodman for tweeting out that Robert hit four

1571
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy and a half foot home run and

1572
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: he was hitting lasers off of Sean MANI I don't

1573
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: know if that's bad for Manaia or good for Louise Robert?

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: Who what do you think?

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: Both?

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01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: Nice?

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01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 3: I like that, But again, like now we have pitching depth.

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01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: We have an ACE, so we have depth because now

1579
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: we've had an as the position player group, legit came together.

1580
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: Horiy Polanco looks like he's going to be a good

1581
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: defensive first baseman.

1582
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: Did you see the super edit someone put together of

1583
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: all the errors Pete made last year to first base

1584
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: And it was also at the end of games, Like

1585
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: the metsal gimately lost three or four games last year

1586
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: because of an error Pete made it for the first

1587
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: base in the eighth or ninth inning. I completely blocked

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Speaker 1: those out of my memory.

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01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mickfield made that one one against the Yankees, one

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01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: against the Nationals. There was another one mixed in there somewhere.

1591
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: It was it was I mean, still love Pilonzo. Still

1592
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: the chast dives pi Alonzo, but it will be interesting

1593
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: to have a good defensive first baseman.

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01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and those clips so far Bejoarhey Polanco days after

1595
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: talking about how he can't play position, he can at

1596
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: least make the throws. The throws look better than ever

1597
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: at first but the infielder footwork's tremendous. We just need

1598
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: the first base footwork. But another another five weeks. Confident

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01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: we'll get there. But yes, this is a firm confident

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: a for an offseason. Truly, don't think the Metsican have

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01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 1: done much better.

1602
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: No, I definitely don't think the mess have done much better.

1603
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: And this is one hundred that mean, not one hundred

1604
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: an hour, five an hour and ten minutes of grading

1605
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: every single offseason since twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: You guys have seen the changes over the years.

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01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: Happy we're where we're at now compared to where we

1608
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: were about a decade and a half ago.

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01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: But I I just can't wait to watch baseball games

1610
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 3: we played.

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01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: So excited to watch. Is this where I wrap it up? James?

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01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, wrap it up. We need a new outro.

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: Wrap it up. That's it for this episode. Thank you

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Speaker 2: guys for listening, Thank you for watching. Make sure you're

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Speaker 2: subscribed to Mets Up on YouTube. We appreciate all the

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Speaker 2: a review, download and subscribe. You can follow James on

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 2: social media at James Ciano. I'm draft pick Mark. We'll

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Speaker 2: catch you guys on the next episode.

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Speaker 3: Peace Out, Peace out, guys. Let's come mets

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Speaker 2: B A, then the loves, the loves, then love, the love,