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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: Ball noer for sure, definitely one of the O G

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Speaker 4: ball knowers as well in the media. But yeah, he

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Speaker 4: called it BS that Roberts Plaine claimed that the Chargers

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Speaker 4: players were confused by what the Patriots were doing defense.

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Speaker 3: So you know again called him a liar. What is

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Speaker 3: he calling bs.

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Speaker 4: That he thought that didn't do anything creative.

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Speaker 5: Or didn't tell that was my Splaine that, Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: agreed for as you said that he called Splaine a liar,

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Speaker 5: right right, Yeah, I think I think, Hey, I'm with friends.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's okay, you can.

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Speaker 6: Be with fingers.

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Speaker 4: Can you call him a liar somebody? I don't don't

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Speaker 4: need to argue about this, Samantha, I really don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's his opinion while he's wrong, okay, but that doesn't

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Speaker 3: make him a lie.

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Speaker 4: Well it does because the film is the film. There's

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Speaker 4: no way to interpret film differently, not not not really

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Speaker 4: Like if you know you're watch you're using.

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Speaker 3: The word liar in the wrong way. That's that's well.

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Speaker 4: I would say, Greg Cosela is now lying. I happened

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Speaker 4: to see the splaying quote before I watched the tape.

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Speaker 4: I thought that's bs. I think that's a lot of garbage.

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Speaker 3: Not the quote, but the fact that they were confused,

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Speaker 3: So anybody know.

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to like belabor it because I thought

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Speaker 6: it already had gone on too long. But when Evan

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Speaker 6: actually read the tweet, the word liar was never doo h.

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Speaker 7: It is Tuesday here at Jillette Stadium. The Patriots are

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Speaker 7: on the way to the AFC Championship. Haven't beaten a

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Speaker 7: really good team in the Uh what's the name of them?

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Speaker 3: If good? You forgot that he was about to call

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Speaker 3: them the Texas Rangers. But yeah, so, I mean here

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Speaker 3: we are going to the AFC Championship. Unbelievable. That was

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Speaker 3: a wild game. We knew the Texans had a good defense,

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Speaker 3: but the Patriots are overmatched on the front line. They

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Speaker 3: were overmatched for much of that game, and it led

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Speaker 3: to a white knucklock for most of the game.

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Speaker 4: But here we are.

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Speaker 3: It's Evan, it's Barks, it's Deuce, it's Me, it's Alex

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Speaker 3: the mats in the booth, And yeah, I mean, what

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Speaker 3: else is there to say about this game that we

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Speaker 1: I guess, unbelievable. Just you know, the Patriots defense, to me,

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Speaker 1: I got to give them flowers first, because they've just

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Speaker 1: been outstanding. I mean, and going back and grinding some

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Speaker 1: of the tape yesterday, I just I was so impressed

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Speaker 1: with those guys, how they click, they get downhill, they

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Speaker 1: he sees it, he goes They're all good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's just no real weak links.

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Speaker 3: It's playoffs and it's defense. I mean, that's what you

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Speaker 1: You know, playoffs. Defense wins hopefully championships.

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Speaker 3: But so luckily the Patriots have one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at some point, maybe the Patriots defense will get

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: My guess is that that probably won't happen again because

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Speaker 4: But they they've just been outstanding. I mean, they're giving

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Speaker 4: and I just think what's so remarkable about what they've

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Speaker 4: first down has become an aggressive down for them. They're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh good, good point. Do you think that this

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Speaker 3: just something that you know you would think, well, being

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think there's an element of that,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think the biggest difference is, you know,

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Speaker 4: to playoffs. You know, these are better teams. They're better quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Philosophy, but wouldn't a lesser quarterback like give you the

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Speaker 4: I just think that that's it's right now, it's working.

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Speaker 6: To the play that Mike just talked about, and you're right,

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Speaker 6: it's one play of a whole season worth, you know,

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Speaker 6: And I think that the philosophy for the Patriots throughout

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Speaker 6: Now to me, it's about the line of scrimmage. They've

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Speaker 1: Of the water.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this would have happened dominant Milton Williams

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Speaker 4: the defense is going to have to play really well. Now,

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Speaker 3: Is not going to have a twenty eight quarterback rate

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Speaker 6: Going to be able to say as a blanket statement,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a difference Like Stroud through four picks,

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Speaker 1: But did both of those right?

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Speaker 3: But in between those turnovers he was playing great.

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Speaker 4: For him, I think I think they it's a different

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Speaker 4: You know, like Houston wins with structure and and just talent,

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Speaker 1: Then with Houston, it's so much on Drake to me,

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Speaker 4: So I don't think the pressure was all that bad.

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Speaker 4: I think Campbell. I think Campbell got whooped all right,

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Speaker 6: The way he's handling the pressure that was the right.

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Speaker 4: Side of the offensive line was fantastic. Morgan Moses pitched

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Speaker 1: I said to Evan, I feel he hasn't played MVP

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Speaker 1: They're gonna need more for him to win this year,

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Speaker 3: The team has had on the road this year means

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: As much in this. I like that point. I know

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Speaker 6: Well, if that's what it takes to get him to

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Speaker 3: I don't know, But you don't think that bo Nitz

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Speaker 6: I don't, but he's significantly better than the guy who's

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Well, he's been like he's been behind some good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Who is he behind Brian Hoyer? He backed up Brian Hoyer.

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Speaker 4: I know, but in Vegas because he's also I don't

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Speaker 1: Back to the shot here.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think he's had a chance in this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think when you're in the league as

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Speaker 6: You if you deserved a chance to play, you would

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Speaker 4: I hear what Paul is saying to him. He's right,

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Speaker 3: out and he does pretty well, is because the Patriots

440
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Speaker 3: defense thinks, now he did him I'm talking.

441
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Speaker 1: Can I see it?

442
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Speaker 3: I mean, well, yeah, what's pretty If he comes out

443
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Speaker 3: and he's like, you know, sixty five percent passing and

444
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Speaker 3: he's not turning the ball over many yards, I don't know.

445
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Speaker 4: I don't like if he looks at.

446
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Speaker 6: But like sixty five percent passing for like eighty yards,

447
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Speaker 6: yeah great. No, I'm not going to say anything about

448
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Speaker 6: the Patriots defense. Does he put like twenty eight points

449
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Speaker 6: and throw for you know, to eighty with sixty five

450
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Speaker 6: percent passing, then I'll say, eh, yeah, all it took

451
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Speaker 6: was a quarterback to not poop himself and the defense.

452
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Speaker 4: Look, there's a long way from a good first fifteen

453
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Speaker 4: to too eighty and sixty five percent passing exactly. And

454
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Speaker 4: now it's sort of my point was like I I

455
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be shocked if he comes out and plays pretty

456
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Speaker 4: well to start the game. Now they're going to have

457
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Speaker 4: plays that they've practiced all week that he's going to

458
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Speaker 4: feel comfortable running. It's always the challenge of once you

459
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Speaker 4: get out of the script, like how does it go

460
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Speaker 4: for there? Sure for all teams, and I don't know

461
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Speaker 4: if you know, the good quarterbacks will be able to

462
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Speaker 4: play well through four quarters. I don't know if Sidham

463
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Speaker 4: is going to be able to do that. But I

464
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if Sean Payton has something ready that

465
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Speaker 4: he probably would have called the same game with Bo Nicks, honestly, Like,

466
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Speaker 4: you know, I think there's.

467
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Speaker 1: Similar theff styles.

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Speaker 6: I think Stidham probably has a better arm, but I

469
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Speaker 6: think Knicks is the better player in terms of overall

470
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Speaker 6: package and obviously what he's done with games on the

471
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Speaker 6: line and you know, late situations. He's been really good,

472
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Speaker 6: right like six.

473
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Speaker 1: Or seven fourth quarter comebacks this year, and he's got.

474
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Speaker 4: Five fourth quarter comebacks, seven game winning drives. That's the

475
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Speaker 4: most in the league. And I think that's a big

476
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Speaker 4: part of it, is that intangible quality of the clutch

477
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Speaker 4: in that factor but Nix is more mobile and it's

478
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Speaker 4: not particularly close. You know, Stidham's not a statue, but

479
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Speaker 4: Knicks is really nimble. He can get out on the pocket.

480
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Speaker 4: He's more comfortable, I would say, in a lot of ways,

481
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Speaker 4: throwing on the move, throwing from different platforms, arming, different

482
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Speaker 4: things like that. That's not Jared Stidham's game. They're going

483
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Speaker 4: to have to get Jared Stidham to sit in the

484
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Speaker 4: pocket and make throws, whereas like twenty five percent of

485
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Speaker 4: bo Nix's throws around.

486
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Speaker 3: I restley don't know what Jared Stidham's game is.

487
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Speaker 4: Jared Stidham is a pocket quarterback. He's got a good arm.

488
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Speaker 4: I think that if he's cleaned, like a lot of

489
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Speaker 4: NFL quarterbacks, you know, he can hit throws down the field.

490
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Speaker 4: But it's just from his college tape, from just everything.

491
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Speaker 4: I watched some of his preseason last night, I you know,

492
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Speaker 4: went back and watched a couple of his starts in

493
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Speaker 4: twenty three, which we were Sean Payton still in Denver. Now,

494
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Speaker 4: this Broncos team now is a lot better than that

495
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Speaker 4: Broncos team was in terms of surrounding talent. I think

496
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Speaker 4: the only other thing I would add is this is

497
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Speaker 4: the best offensive line they've faced yet. That's what I

498
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Speaker 4: was buy am a country mile.

499
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Speaker 6: So would that prevent you I wanted to get into that.

500
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Speaker 6: I'm glad you opened the door. Would that cause you

501
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Speaker 6: to maybe rethink some of the pressure stuff that you've

502
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Speaker 6: been doing, because this line seems more equipped to handle

503
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Speaker 6: some of that stuff, whereas certainly the Charges look like

504
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Speaker 6: they had never seen one before four, And at times

505
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Speaker 6: the Texans looked pretty leaky too.

506
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Speaker 1: Now I think they've been kind of blitz happy in

507
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Speaker 1: the postseason, and I would say that might be how

508
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Speaker 1: you have to do it. Yeah, I think just pick.

509
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Speaker 6: That would go the opposite way, you know, I would say,

510
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Speaker 6: let him try to pick me apart. I'm gonna I'm

511
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Speaker 6: going to say that you protect the past it Well,

512
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Speaker 6: I'm going to give you that, and I'm going to

513
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Speaker 6: really pick and choose my spots with my pressure, and

514
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Speaker 6: I'm going to just rely on him not being able

515
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Speaker 6: to pick us apart.

516
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Speaker 4: I mean, if Chase On plays like he's been playing,

517
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Speaker 4: maybe they can still get pressure with four. I don't

518
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: know if he's going to have a picnic back there.

519
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Speaker 4: If you don't try to bring some extra heat on

520
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Speaker 4: him because it's a really good offensive line. They have

521
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Speaker 4: two first team All pros.

522
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Speaker 6: Nix was only sack twenty two times all year.

523
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Speaker 1: It's two.

524
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Speaker 6: That's a pretty low number.

525
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Speaker 4: Two first team All pros. You know, Garrett Brough bowls

526
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Speaker 4: at left tackle, miners the left guard, right guard. Now

527
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Speaker 4: the center's hurt, so that that's one area that you know.

528
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Speaker 4: They were on their third string center in overtime against

529
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Speaker 4: Buffalo last week. I don't know if it's going to

530
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Speaker 4: be the backup or the third string, but maybe if

531
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Speaker 4: you put Barmore or Williams right over the center and

532
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Speaker 4: have him rush on that guy, then you could get

533
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Speaker 4: some pressure with the four man rushes. But I think

534
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Speaker 4: you risk the fact of like him just kind of

535
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Speaker 4: sitting there with all day.

536
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Speaker 1: And we've seen some bad quarterbacks go down the field

537
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Speaker 1: on this defense. Not to say that they're the same

538
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Speaker 1: defense right now, but that I mean, I get what

539
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Speaker 1: Paul's saying, and I do agree with spinning the dial

540
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Speaker 1: a little bit. There were times I thought where they

541
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Speaker 1: you know, dropped everybody out rushed three last week that

542
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Speaker 1: you know, caught CJ. Stroud off guard. But I agree

543
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Speaker 1: with Evan that was the point I was going to make.

544
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Speaker 1: I mean, their their offensive line is really really good,

545
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Speaker 1: you know, but they don't really have like a go

546
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Speaker 1: to weapon either right now. Like you know, if I

547
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Speaker 1: had stid him and I felt great about my running

548
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Speaker 1: back JK. Dobbins. Is they activated him off of you know,

549
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: designated to return, so he might come back. But you

550
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Speaker 1: know what's up with Troy Franklin. He went out of

551
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Speaker 1: that game. He's I mean, he's a pretty reliable, dangerous

552
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Speaker 1: piece there in the slot. So but is he can

553
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Speaker 1: be able to push it downfield the court and something

554
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Speaker 1: and Marvin Mims and a from Little Jordan, Little Jordan Humphrey.

555
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Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that that's the one thing that

557
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: you know, just looking at the matchup, like they became

558
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 4: very pass heavy this year with bo Nicks their top

559
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Speaker 4: ten in pass right, they're top ten and drop backs

560
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Speaker 4: per game, I think they're like seventh or eighth in

561
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Speaker 4: the league and drop backs per game. So when you

562
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Speaker 4: look at their team, you know, they threw the ball

563
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Speaker 4: seventy three percent of the time against Buffalo on first

564
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Speaker 4: and second down last week. They're not going to be

565
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Speaker 4: able to do that with a backup quarterback, Like, they're

566
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Speaker 4: going to have to find some sort of run game

567
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Speaker 4: to balance it out, because if you ask Jared Sidham

568
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Speaker 4: to drop back fifty times on Sunday, then the Patriots

569
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Speaker 4: will blow them out. So, like, you have to find

570
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Speaker 4: a different way to do it, I think, and I

571
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Speaker 4: think that's the most interesting part of this matchup to me,

572
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Speaker 4: is like, how does can Denver find a running game

573
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Speaker 4: that is productive to kind of offset the fact that

574
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Speaker 4: they don't have a quarterback that they can drop back

575
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Speaker 4: like that.

576
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Speaker 1: I thought Tongo looked pretty good too. He looked like

577
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Speaker 1: the guy.

578
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Speaker 4: You could say a name on that defense and you

579
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: would be like, yep, that guy played right. Like literally

580
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Speaker 4: every single.

581
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Speaker 6: Offense the defense was was very impressive. And you know,

582
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Speaker 6: one thing to keep in mind here too, is you know,

583
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Speaker 6: the Patriots got fortunate with the concussion protocol last week

584
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Speaker 6: with Gonzo, who responded with another really solid game. Now

585
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Speaker 6: you have to worry about what Carlton Davis's situation is

586
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Speaker 6: going to be. I guess we'll probably learn a little

587
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Speaker 6: bit more about that tomorrow.

588
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Speaker 3: Yep, But it sounds like from you guys, if you're

589
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Speaker 3: gonna miss have a game where you're going to miss

590
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Speaker 3: your cornerback. This is it.

591
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Speaker 6: But you still I mean, I mean, I am going

592
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Speaker 6: to say it's still the AFC Championship game, right when

593
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Speaker 6: you when you take when you take your good players.

594
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Speaker 6: So I'm very consistent when you take your good players

595
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 6: out of the lineup, and it generally weakens your team.

596
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Speaker 6: So I say, Carlton Davis out of the lineup makes

597
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Speaker 6: the Patriots secondary less dangerous than it was last.

598
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Speaker 1: Week, for sure. And I mean I think I would

599
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Speaker 1: I would worry about him chucking it up to Mims

600
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Speaker 1: running down field. I mean, they might get to a

601
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Speaker 1: certain point where they're desperate, but those are some big

602
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Speaker 1: body guys that can who we saw last week, they

603
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Speaker 1: can make Playston's a good player.

604
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, he's not the most consistent, like number

605
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 6: one guy out there, but.

606
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Speaker 4: A lot of passes for a number one guy.

607
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Speaker 6: But he's you know, he's you know, a volume guy

608
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 6: who averages you know, about fourteen yards of catch. That's

609
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 6: pretty good numbers.

610
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Speaker 4: I would assume that, you know, last week, they didn't

611
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Speaker 4: shadow the receivers because Nico Collins didn't play in the game,

612
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: and so there's really no reason for it. I think

613
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Speaker 4: Gonzo's got Cortland Sutton in this game, Like I think

614
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Speaker 4: you have him travel with Courton Sutherland because you know

615
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: that that's really the engine of their passing game is him.

616
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Speaker 4: And I would also say, like Harvey out of the

617
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: backfield is sneaky good yep as a scat back, so

618
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: you have to be careful about little dump offs into

619
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Speaker 4: the flats, especially with a backup quarterback like those are

620
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: those are a quarterback's best friend. When you throw the ball,

621
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Speaker 4: you know, to your scrimmage and the guy breaks the

622
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Speaker 4: tackle and goes for twenty, so you know he's he's

623
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Speaker 4: that's on my.

624
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Speaker 6: Playing overtime too. Is that one that got the drive going?

625
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Speaker 8: Really?

626
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 6: He made a couple of guys miss ended up picking

627
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 6: up about fifteen yards and that's when then the passing

628
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 6: appearances came and the game was over.

629
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Speaker 4: Very McDermott got fired, very very.

630
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Speaker 3: Quickly coaching Cage.

631
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Speaker 1: So the red al ray all right.

632
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah McDermott out halfway now the head coach of Miami yep, yep,

633
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: Sala got hired Titans coach of the Titans. Who else got.

634
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 4: Hired other than Harbaughs? So far that in Atlanta, right, fans.

635
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think four of those jobs are filled, but

636
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 6: now there's still six openings.

637
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like the Titans were trying to

638
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Speaker 1: get like I was calling them t move Rabel, Like

639
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: they're like, let's get the let's get the Rabel kind

640
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: of guy back again.

641
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Speaker 4: You know, I can't believe the Bills fired McDermott and

642
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 4: promoted Brendan Bean like that to me is absolutely crazy.

643
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: They he literally failed up like I I like it's

644
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 4: his fault. Like the team, the roster is not as

645
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: good as it used to be, So I don't really

646
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: understand how the GM the first right is the one

647
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: that that survives that. But that's something. They're gonna open

648
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: a new stadium and they have no idea who the coach.

649
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 6: I know, Tom's really weird that they did that with

650
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 6: with being I would have thought that would be a package.

651
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: Joe Brady promoted.

652
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Speaker 4: Is that possible as possible?

653
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Speaker 6: It's possible. I think that would be a bad move,

654
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Speaker 6: but that's that's possible.

655
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Speaker 3: I know Tomlin said he doesn't want to coach this year,

656
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Speaker 3: but I got a feeling that's just posturing, like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, until the until.

658
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Speaker 6: The until every until every job is filled for it.

659
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Speaker 6: I think that's in play.

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Speaker 1: Well, what would you guys do with Josh Allen? I

661
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Speaker 1: just think that's interesting because I think he's had some

662
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Speaker 1: success with Joe Brady and they had a little bit

663
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Speaker 1: of a lull with what Dorsey, you know, and they

664
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Speaker 1: got rid of him and they brought Ready back in,

665
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Speaker 1: like you know, do you I mean, but you kind

666
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: of have to get a new OC, right, like you

667
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: can bring back Dah and keep the ocring David.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't want a guy with no head coach experience

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Speaker 6: to inherit what I think is a team that's capable

670
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Speaker 6: of playing deep in the playoffs. I would want a

671
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Speaker 6: guy with more even Dable. I know it was only

672
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 6: what three years, three and a half years, but it

673
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Speaker 6: was with the Giants that to me would be more

674
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Speaker 6: significant than Brady. Plus I know that Allen won an

675
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Speaker 6: MVP with Brady, but I think he had his best

676
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Speaker 6: success with Dable. Yeah, so there was something there. I

677
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Speaker 6: think that worked with Dave Rolman. But either one of

678
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Speaker 6: those two guys, the more important thing for Buffalo is

679
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Speaker 6: going to be you have to find someone to run

680
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Speaker 6: the defense. Because we could talk about Josh Allen's turnovers

681
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 6: all you want, they can't. They every one of these

682
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 6: playoff games they allow thirty plus points and that's when

683
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Speaker 6: they go home. And they were supposed to be a

684
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Speaker 6: defensive oriented team, you know, with a defensive minded head coach.

685
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Speaker 6: I think that's probably as big a reason as any

686
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Speaker 6: is why ra is out of a job.

687
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Speaker 4: And their past defense has been great, yeah, and it

688
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: was great again this year.

689
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Speaker 6: They can't get pressure, especially when the games are well.

690
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that their scheme, the way that

691
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: they you know, line up up front, run the same

692
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Speaker 4: front they've ran for fifteen years, and like at some

693
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Speaker 4: point it's like, you know, I remember guys on the

694
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Speaker 4: Patriots offensive line being like we're getting the four to

695
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: three over, like that's what we're getting, and it's like, yeah,

696
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: you know where the weaknesses are, you know where to

697
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: run the ball against them. Their run defense has not

698
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: been very good really at all for the last four

699
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: or five years. So I'm just surprised that they, like,

700
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Speaker 4: you know, Fred mentioned Tomlin like, well, do you want

701
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: like that kind of guy, like, because that's what McDermott is, like,

702
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: do you want the defensive guy, program builder, you know,

703
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: that sort of guy or do you want like the

704
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Speaker 4: type pants guy that's going to come in.

705
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Speaker 1: And really right handcuffed you out Josh to a type

706
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: pants guy, remake him.

707
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Speaker 4: A little bit right, right, Like, I don't know which

708
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: way you go. I mean, it's not a great coaching

709
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: carousel for the type pants guys. There's no Ben Johnson

710
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Speaker 4: in this group.

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Speaker 6: And I do think Dabel or Brady would be good

712
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Speaker 6: for Josh Allen, But I'm talking about like what's best

713
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Speaker 6: for the team as well.

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Speaker 1: The guy from Indiana, I don't know. I mean, well, yeah,

715
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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to go.

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody could afford that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he says is not interested in it.

718
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Speaker 9: Yet.

719
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 6: The money, well, that contract and signs he is. Just

720
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Speaker 6: that contract that he signed, he just signed like major money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean and regardless, the defense is going

722
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Speaker 1: to change. I mean, that's McDermott's defense, So that is

723
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Speaker 1: a given that they're going to have to reconstitute that

724
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Speaker 1: defense into something.

725
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Speaker 3: Evan's point like, they haven't do something about their personnel,

726
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: and they.

727
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Speaker 6: That's why they promoted the Brandon Bean thing is weird to.

728
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Speaker 1: Me, right, and now they might be looking for different

729
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: personnel too.

730
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Speaker 4: Was closed real real quick.

731
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Speaker 6: I was just I was reading something about this this morning,

732
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Speaker 6: and I had forgotten, like how many times Brandon being

733
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 6: got really really pissy with the media, you know, talking

734
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 6: about the wide receiver room pretty you know, in this

735
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 6: this current offseason, winding about how hard it is, you know,

736
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 6: cap wise, like all these things that really aren't things

737
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Speaker 6: anymore that other teams have been able to overcome. I

738
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Speaker 6: think it was one of your boys, Evan, Ben Benjamin

739
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Speaker 6: and Solac. He wrote a really comprehensive piece about like

740
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Speaker 6: kind of you know, the fall. You know, mcdermot's the

741
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Speaker 6: fall guy. But you can look at Bean and you

742
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 6: can look at Alan himself at some of these shortcomings

743
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 6: when it matters most, and some of the quotes from

744
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Speaker 6: Brandon Bean, like I forgot about some of that stuff,

745
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 6: and he just is one of these guys. Nothing's his fault,

746
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 6: you see why he stayed. He's sitting next to the

747
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 6: Pagoulas and he's saying, I gave him all of this

748
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 6: he has that we have this roster. We have that roster.

749
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Speaker 6: He's not doing anything with him. It's the age old thing,

750
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Speaker 6: the GM sitting next to the coach.

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Speaker 3: All right, eight five to five Pats five hundred is

752
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: the Hotline podcast at Patriots dot com. Sweeney in Providence

753
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: just a friendly reminder that Paul thinks c. J. Straud

754
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: is a very good quarterback.

755
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Speaker 4: How he knew that was coming?

756
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I deserve these I thought he was too, And

757
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't know where it is.

758
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 6: I think the Patriots deserve some credit.

759
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I saw somebody like me, you know, just right.

760
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Speaker 1: He's still trying to get back to that level he

761
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: had as a rookie. And you know, last year I

762
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: felt like he was still good, but you know, Dell

763
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: got hurt. It felt like he was holding things together,

764
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, with a thread. And I just I'm surprised

765
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: at how he's looked here, feeder and mess.

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Speaker 6: He's I mean, I can't. I don't have anything to

767
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 6: say on a positive nature about anything he's done in

768
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 6: these two playoff games. He's been awful. But I give

769
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 6: the Patriots defense credit for some of the stuff that

770
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Speaker 6: happened Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Chase was just on him so fast. It's

772
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: just forcing bad decisions.

773
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Speaker 4: His feeter and mess like his feet under pressure. He

774
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: throws from wonky platforms consistently. It's not even just the turnovers,

775
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: Like he's just missing flat out missing open receivers.

776
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Speaker 6: Turnover worthy play number for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had six, that's it.

778
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Speaker 4: Six.

779
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Speaker 6: Yeah, felt like he had six in the first quarter

780
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Speaker 6: and hadn't turned it over right, But you know, he's

781
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Speaker 6: just It was worse watching it back than it was

782
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Speaker 6: even live, Like, you know, missing receivers in the end

783
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 6: zone on that goal line sequence, he missed two, the one, three.

784
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Speaker 4: To the you know down underneath, and then he came

785
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Speaker 4: off the front side of a read a little bit

786
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 4: too quickly. I think he was sped up at that

787
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: point then, like you know, missing guys because his feet

788
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: aren't set properly and he's feeling the pressure come in

789
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: and his feet are all over the place. I really

790
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 4: like Tamika Ryans, and I think he's a great defensive coach,

791
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 4: but that team's going nowhere.

792
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 6: The quarterback, they got a lot of work to do

793
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 6: with him this offseason. I said it to Evan at halftime,

794
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 6: I'd have made the change I was thinking about it.

795
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 6: I would have put Davis Mills in. I don't know

796
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 6: what it would have mattered, because I don't think Davis

797
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 6: Mills is any good, but to Fred's point about Stidham,

798
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Speaker 6: I cannot imagine a guy playing a worse game than that.

799
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Speaker 6: I was as bad of a performance as I.

800
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Speaker 3: Was thinking that first drive, second half, they'd make the decision.

801
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Speaker 3: But he actually looked pretty good on that first drive.

802
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you remember, I mean even at the end

803
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Speaker 1: of the game when they were backed up in their

804
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: own end zone and you know, I'm like, oh my god,

805
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: this is scary for these guys right now, letting the

806
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Speaker 1: first play of the game.

807
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Speaker 4: They rolled him out the first play of the game

808
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 4: and he misses.

809
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was That was one I said to Paul

810
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Speaker 1: I know on the postgame show that one of the

811
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Speaker 1: big differences in this game was that the Patriots recovered

812
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: too of their own fumbles and they also returned.

813
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Speaker 3: Oh listen, that game could have turned very easily, man.

814
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Speaker 1: But the other thing that I think was was a

815
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: big difference was that the Patriots made three amazing catches

816
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: on touchdowns and the Texans missed like six layup catches

817
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm thinking of at least one where

818
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: they got him on the back side sleeping again with

819
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: the tight end just sitting there and right through his hands. Yea,

820
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Speaker 1: you know, they had drops and the Patriots made the

821
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Speaker 1: tough catches Jonathan and Fontana.

822
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Speaker 3: One critique I have about the game is a lack

823
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Speaker 3: of play action for McDaniels. Last week, you guys talked

824
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 3: about getting into heavy personnel, taking play action shots deep

825
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: would have benefited the offense, and I don't remember if

826
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Speaker 3: we got any of that, and especially with Will Campbells

827
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 3: struggles in this game, more play action just made more sense.

828
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Speaker 1: They couldn't run the ball, though, so I don't know

829
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Speaker 1: if you want to turn your back.

830
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Speaker 4: On I thought that was the only attempted one pass

831
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Speaker 4: out of the six O line, and I thought they

832
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: would do more of that. I thought they would put

833
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: seven eight guys in the protection, run two man routes,

834
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: try to load up the protection, maybe move the pocket

835
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Speaker 4: a little bit. They did try it once and Will Anson,

836
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 4: Sack and Drake may got through, but it was because

837
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: the coverage was they got it on the back end.

838
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: They covered it well. But I was a little bit surprised.

839
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Speaker 3: Now.

840
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Speaker 4: I think play action is an easy crutch of just

841
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: like when things aren't going well, just call more play action,

842
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: Like it doesn't always work like that, But I thought

843
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: that in this game if you had one critique of McDaniel's,

844
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 4: I was surprised there weren't more you know, max protections,

845
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 4: move the pocket, you know, those types of things.

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Speaker 6: I would just say, like, I don't think they played

847
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 6: very well offensively. I don't think that the perform you know,

848
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 6: play calls, you know, I would I wouldn't argue with

849
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 6: any like what play action the email are saying more

850
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 6: moving in the pocket. I do think that they took

851
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 6: shots down the field, which I was expecting and hoping for.

852
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 6: And I think they did take a handful of shots

853
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 6: downfield and had some success with them. I think it

854
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 6: was a big part of the game.

855
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: But you know, like.

856
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 6: One of May's fumbles, the May fumble where he ended

857
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 6: up having to it was like a broken play. He

858
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 6: hands the ball to no one because he turned the

859
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 6: wrong way or the running back went the wrong way.

860
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Speaker 6: I don't know which was which. He then it's a

861
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 6: broken play and he sort of recklessly dives forward for

862
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 6: no reason and ends up fumbling. Like that's just bad

863
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 6: play all around. You missed your assignment. You know, maybe

864
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Speaker 6: two people maybe.

865
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Speaker 1: Like the person out of the belt and.

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Speaker 6: Just take what you know, Okay, the plays it's a

867
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: blown play, Like we don't have to make like eighteen

868
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 6: yards out of this. It's a blown and then you

869
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 6: make it bad to worse. You know, Evan talked about

870
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Speaker 6: some of the times in the pocket where the pressure

871
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 6: wasn't quote unquote that bad. One of them I think

872
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: looked like it was supposed to get me out really quick,

873
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Speaker 6: Like the linemen looked like they were cutting and he

874
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 6: ended up holding the ball. Mike, you talked about the

875
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 6: one when he kind of drifted himself into Morgan Moses

876
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 6: and they got pushed back and that led to one

877
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 6: of the fumbles. They just didn't play that well. Like

878
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 6: we can blame it on Josh, but I think that

879
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 6: they need to play better period.

880
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 4: Also not just a quarterback. Some of the pocket maneuvering

881
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: mechanics from May, some of it has reverted back to

882
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: rookie season stuff where he's drifting, where he's not cognizant

883
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 4: of where the pressure points are. Look when Will Anderson

884
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: comes off the blind side in like a half a second,

885
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 4: like there's nothing you can do about that. But you know,

886
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 4: I thought on the other two strip sacks, you know,

887
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 4: having some sense of where the pressure is and how

888
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: much time you've spent in the pocket and at some point,

889
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 4: like it's time to get two hands on the ball

890
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: and either take a sack or try to scuore it

891
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: out or something. But you got to protect the football.

892
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: I thought two of the three strip sacks he tried

893
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: to load up and I don't even know where he

894
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: was throwing the ball, like he was trying to throw

895
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: it down the field and he's loaded up, and Will

896
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: Anderson and Daniel Hunter are just on top of them,

897
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, those are the ones that

898
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: can't happen.

899
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: To defend Josh again. Like, so you had that drive

900
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 6: I want to say, late in the third quarter, which

901
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 6: he started off with one of those little sort of

902
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 6: misdirection boots get him out of the pocket, little dumped

903
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 6: to Austin Hooper, a nice drive started like fifteen yards.

904
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 6: Then I think they tried a similar concept on the

905
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 6: next play and it didn't work as well. Like that's

906
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 6: the play that Will Anderson almost took his head off,

907
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 6: or you know, I think it was Will Anderson. So

908
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 6: when you're playing against teams like that, they're good too,

909
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 6: so you can try a lot of different things. I mean,

910
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 6: Mike made I think the best point. The three touchdowns

911
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 6: were really well defended, and the throws were good, and

912
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 6: the catches were even better, and in the case of Booty's,

913
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 6: was one of the best catches you'll ever see. Those

914
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 6: Those are three dynamite catches by Diggs, Booty and I.

915
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: Don't think people elite.

916
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 6: I don't think people realize how good the catch that

917
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 6: Douglas made. That ball got tipped and he maintained his

918
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 6: concentration and was able to catch it and stride and score.

919
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: We talked about it on the post game show. Every

920
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: play was contested. See a defense, the defensive live, So

921
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: you got to give him their praise. The Texans their defense.

922
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: Well, and is a man amongst boys, Like I'm watching

923
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: him is just the same thing last year. I mean,

924
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: you block him for a second, he ain't. That's as

925
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: much as you're gonna get because he is like a

926
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: magnet to the ball. It's it's it's fun to watch,

927
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean it really is, especially when you win. You

928
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: don't have to think about him destroying your head.

929
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 3: You know, to give away the ball as many times

930
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: the Patriots did and still beat them. No, it's and

931
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: that's they got just must be pretty good, all right,

932
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: A lot of blind.

933
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 6: The Patriots covered the fumbles right, A.

934
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: Lot of a lot of blind going uh on. In

935
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: the emails, uh Dylan writes in my favorite part of

936
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: the pu shows is when I write in, is when

937
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: I get to watch Paul pooh pooh my takes and

938
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: then Evan goes to the locker room and Paul complains

939
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: about Evan poop pooing his takes. Last week, I wrote

940
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: in saying I had no faith in Stroud and outside

941
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: of the scoreboard, I thought the defense could step up

942
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: against the Texans, and I stand by it, fully aware

943
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: that Paul will also poo poo this take as well.

944
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: Now you're wrong, right.

945
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: Every time we make an opposing QB play bad, it's

946
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 3: because of that QB and not because of our defense.

947
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: But that's okay. Every team needs some motivation and I'm

948
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: glad that our defense will continue to be underrated moving forward. Deuce,

949
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 3: not sure if it was intentional, but the most postgame interview,

950
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: but the postgame interview with Splain where you're stuck in

951
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: a reference to Splain leading them was hilarious. I whispered,

952
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: lead them, Did you know you were doing that?

953
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: I didn't.

954
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: I heard it, and I said, oh, I didn't consciously.

955
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Do it, really, but I got credit to my subconscious

956
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: for getting it in there.

957
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: Someone else pointed out and I was like, I did, Yeah,

958
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: all right, good I heard it.

959
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: Lastly, Can you imagine if back in July after training camp,

960
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: I said to you, I hope Mac Collins went back

961
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: from injured reserve before the AFHC Championship game. That's an

962
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 3: important piece of the offense. It's amazing how far we've

963
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: come in six months. What an amazing season for a fan.

964
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: I hope Mac Collins is out there too. I think

965
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: that that has mattered. I'm not saying he's prime Randy Moss,

966
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: but I think, yeah, you know, his big contested body,

967
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: you know the catch radius like over the middle of

968
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: the field, especially like they haven't really been able to

969
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: hit those like deep digs and stuff like that over

970
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: the middle of the field.

971
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: You feel a little better when you're sending him to

972
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: dig out the nickel rather than you see. I mean

973
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: all effort, for sure, but when it's a guy who's

974
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: like six.

975
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: Or five, and I think Josh McDaniels is going to

976
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: be happy to have him back too, because it sounds

977
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: from what he's saying that he gives him options like

978
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: he's kind of his chess piece.

979
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely bad. I think we've all come

980
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: to that.

981
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 6: I think they've really missed them in the run game

982
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 6: for sure.

983
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that he's been missed.

984
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: So like he can practice this week. Yeah, like there's

985
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: no guarantee he's gonna play though.

986
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: Poor practice.

987
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: No no, And Rabel pointed out Josh Farmer too, not

988
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: that he's an impact player.

989
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure listen.

990
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: One thing I will say about the defensive front, and

991
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Rabel has mentioned it, like they it's heavy substitution patterns,

992
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: and I think Rabel thinks that that's really helping them.

993
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 3: Guys are coming off fresh, they're coming in. He's putting him,

994
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: you know, in or Core Kerra. You always say Core,

995
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: it's Core. Yeah, he's putting him in in places to succeed,

996
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: you know, like this is what he's good at, this

997
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: is the situation. And I remember like guys like Jarvis Green,

998
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: those were guys like you'd be put in a spot

999
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: that was good for him and he'd succeed. And I

1000
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: think that's what's happening we're seeing.

1001
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: I mean they played five guys. They played five guys

1002
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: on the interior at least, and like Milton, Williams and

1003
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: barn were still play a ton of snaps, you know,

1004
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: Tonga and Durden were more like fifty to fifty in

1005
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: this game. And Durden's been really, really good. And then

1006
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: like Leonard Taylor kind of like plays like his like

1007
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 4: ten or fifteen just to kind of spell the other guys.

1008
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 4: But it's really those big four, you know, now Tonga's back,

1009
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 4: you know, Barmore, Williams, Dirden, Tonga, Yeah, Ponder, Ponder plays

1010
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: on the edge.

1011
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm including the edge in the front.

1012
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: Well, so that's Chase on and then on the other

1013
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: side you have Ponder and Jennings and whatever's left of

1014
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 4: Harold Landry.

1015
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: I include the whole liveing, not just the interior.

1016
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: Well yeah, so I guess then they play eight guyes.

1017
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet I would say your point, Fred, the

1018
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: the amount of energy that they asked these guys to

1019
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: play with, I think, you know, you want to have

1020
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: that rotation. And you know, a guy like Dirten who's

1021
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: emerged and gotten some extra playing time. I mean, he's

1022
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: not going to be a superstar, but when you have

1023
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: some depth that you feel good. I mean, Evan said that.

1024
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: What I thought is just no matter who you put

1025
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: in there, they're all kind of playing together. And you know,

1026
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: they don't have the superstar talent that the Texans had

1027
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: last week. But when a defense all plays together and

1028
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: they're all aggressive and there aren't you know, guys getting

1029
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: pushed back and seams in the front, the sound football defense,

1030
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: it's fun to watch. And that's what they're playing right now.

1031
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 4: I would definitely take the Patriots interior guys over Houston's.

1032
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: I mean, their edge guys are obviously a lot better,

1033
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: but I think the Patriots interior defensive line is one

1034
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: of the best in the league.

1035
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 3: Let's go to Rick in Kentucky. What's up, Rick.

1036
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: Hey?

1037
00:45:52,239 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 10: Rick Hey, guys, I'm I'm pretty pretty much an overly

1038
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 10: compassionate guy, and.

1039
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 11: There's one person that I'm really happy for with this

1040
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 11: year's run, and that's Mike do So because when Mike

1041
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 11: joined the crew, things went to the crapper. If I

1042
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 11: was would have thought, darn, am I a Mike jinking

1043
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 11: this thing? I mean, I mean that the team was

1044
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 11: winning games with their eyes closed since the Linked administration

1045
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 11: and enter Mike, and then then so I'm I'm Mike,

1046
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 11: I'm happy for you. I'm serious, I'm serious, I'm serious,

1047
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 11: I'm serious, and I'm going to do something that, uh,

1048
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 11: I'm going to be a hypocrite because when Patriot fans

1049
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 11: do this it drives me crazy. I'm going to ask you, guys,

1050
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 11: who are we rooting for if we win?

1051
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: Because I'm Seattle rooting for Seattle. I want no part

1052
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: of that Seahawks team.

1053
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: No, So okay, so you know we'll play your game?

1054
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 4: Thanks?

1055
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: Who do we want to.

1056
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: What do we want to watch? I want Seattle?

1057
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 6: What do you two want?

1058
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm torn because I love Seattle.

1059
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 4: There's nothing torn about this. I can't believe you said.

1060
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: From perspective, which is that you want the Patriot a

1061
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: matchup for the Patriots, and I respect.

1062
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

1063
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: So what would be easy?

1064
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: I can't believe I would have said, give me the Rams.

1065
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: But now with Sharbone out, he's their second best offensive player.

1066
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: No he's not. Yeah, Jon and Kenneth Walker their two

1067
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: best I think.

1068
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: I think is I think he's better than Kenneth Walker too.

1069
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: You think he's better than Kenneth Walker?

1070
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: You guys watched the value to the team.

1071
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 6: I think Sharbon a obviously not watching any of the offense.

1072
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 6: If you're afraid of them.

1073
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 4: I didn't say I was afraid of them, but I mean, so,

1074
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: so you think Sharbon is better than ken Walker.

1075
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: I think they're both running.

1076
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: Offense lately.

1077
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I think he's given him more more plays. Paul,

1078
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 6: you're correct, So I mean it's an opinion, So I

1079
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 6: think you're wrong. Has that sound.

1080
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 4: Way more dynamic with him out?

1081
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: I'm a little less, but there's there. Their offense. I mean,

1082
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: their defense is ferocious. So that's why I'm scared of

1083
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 3: the Seahawks Rams. On the other hand, I mean their offense,

1084
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 3: the people they have on it, Like, yeah, I'm glad

1085
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: that our Patriots defense is playing the way it is

1086
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: right now. Because you're either team, you're gonna need like

1087
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: herculean effort to be either one of those teams. Puka

1088
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: Naku is the best offensive player in the league probably,

1089
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean last year. I watching the catches he comes

1091
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: down with consistently.

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Speaker 4: I get.

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00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I get the point of I think the Seattle's defense

1094
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: is probably the best unit left in the playoff, So

1095
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a stretch to say that,

1096
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: and I respect Mike McDonald's on there. I also like

1097
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and I have friends who and so there's

1098
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: just a you know, there's the nonsense part that you

1099
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: know these guys don't enjoy. But for me, I think

1100
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: that's a cool rematch. I know the Rams would be

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00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: round three in the super Bowl, so he's kind of

1102
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: seen that a couple of times. But i'd also think

1103
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: stam donald in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Well that's the we'll see, we'll see.

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00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: That's why I picked Seattle.

1106
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I understand picking Seattle for for that reason.

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00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: I just think Seattle in all three phases, has a

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00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: chance to do what they just did to San Francisco.

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00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 4: On any given week, I think you're going to be

1110
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 4: more in a in a in a fight with the Rams,

1111
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: like I think that that's a game that probably comes

1112
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: down to the wire. Seattle, I think has a chance

1113
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: to bo race pretty much every.

1114
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: Either either team. The Patriots will be the underdog, yeah

1115
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: going in. Yeah, and I think it's sobbing rooting for

1116
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: injuries in the NFC Championship.

1117
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 6: As auffs, you don't want to hear this, so Seattle

1118
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 6: and the Rams and the look aheadline are favored by

1119
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 6: three and a half over the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Both teams will be favored by three and halfs I were.

1121
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: Saying, correct, and the Patriots of the home team.

1122
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 4: That's a lot of It's kind of a lot of

1123
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 4: respect for the Patriots. I'm surprised that that that's all.

1124
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 4: It is, like a little bit Seattle is scare.

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00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 6: Didn't want to talk about what the lines is for

1126
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl. The Patriots haven't qualified for you?

1127
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I can't look at Drake's performances the last

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00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: two games and not think about if you were to

1129
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: face that Seattle defense, of how much more you would

1130
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: need out of him, and that that whole offense would

1131
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: just have to pull together in a way that maybe

1132
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: we have any.

1133
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm wrong, but I look at it exactly the

1134
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 6: opposite way I look at Seattle doesn't make you have

1135
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 6: to do that. The Rams probably will. The Rams will

1136
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 6: probably make you have to keep up. The Rams defense

1137
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 6: is not as good as Seattle. No, I don't think

1138
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 6: anybody would argue otherwise. Seattle's defense is much better than

1139
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 6: the Rams. But the Rams offense probably is going to

1140
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 6: make you keep up, and that's what's going to to

1141
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 6: me put more pressure on Drake May. Either you can play,

1142
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 6: you know, a workman like, you know, keep it out

1143
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 6: of harm's way kind of game and have a puncher

1144
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 6: his chance against Seattle easily as long as you just

1145
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 6: don't ruin the game on your own.

1146
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm referring more to it that you can't fumble

1147
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: the four times no matter.

1148
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: Which I don't. You know, it was a baseline that.

1149
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 6: You know.

1150
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 4: It's much like you know, for all the for all

1151
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: the heat opinions, for.

1152
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 6: All the heat I got for the c J. Stroud thing,

1153
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 6: and bring it like I was wrong. I couldn't have

1154
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 6: been more wrong. I said a million times, if he

1155
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 6: fumbles five times and throws a pick again, they're going

1156
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 6: to lose.

1157
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 8: Now.

1158
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 6: I didn't think he would do that again.

1159
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: I did.

1160
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 6: He did so again. If Drake May fumbles four times

1161
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 6: and throws another pick, they're going to lose. They're probably

1162
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 6: not going to get away with that again. But I

1163
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 6: don't think he will because I think he's been too good.

1164
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: And am I sleeping? Are people sleeping on the Rams defense?

1165
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 6: Do?

1166
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 4: We don't like the Rams defense? Remember them?

1167
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: But it's not.

1168
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 6: The secondary. Yeah kind of thinking different. Yeah Turner, Yeah,

1169
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 6: guy from Everett, the rookie from Everett, Josiah Stewart's been

1170
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 6: pretty good for them.

1171
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dance Daytona. What's up Dan?

1172
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 12: Can you guys hear me?

1173
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1174
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, Hey, So that game was amazing. I ain't gonna lie.

1175
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 12: Besides all the obviously the turnervers by Drake, I was

1176
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 12: really shocked to see that.

1177
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 11: Again.

1178
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 12: I thought he would would have cleaned it up coming

1179
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 12: off the Chargers, but it's kind of as I expected.

1180
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 10: Houston.

1181
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 12: That was a Vauntage defense Like that was crazy, like

1182
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 12: seeing Drake under the rest and then seeing Booty and

1183
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 12: and the digs making the catches. But to your point,

1184
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 12: Paul and Evan and you've fred, I would not be

1185
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 12: scared of either team's defense. The reason I say that

1186
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 12: is because, yeah, Seattle does have a great defense. Rams

1187
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 12: have a decent defense too. But if we're able to

1188
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 12: play like we've been playing these last two games, we

1189
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 12: you know it shut All these national media is up.

1190
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 12: Like I don't know if you saw the posts from

1191
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 12: ESPN they posted all of them picking against the Patriots.

1192
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it.

1193
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, they posted that makes that makes Drake May and

1194
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 12: Mike Rabele and the Patriots look good if if they

1195
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 12: can show out comes February eighth, and even in against Denver.

1196
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 12: So that's all I have to say. But I think

1197
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 12: the Patriots could take either or. And everybody being scared

1198
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 12: of the Sea Hawks or the Rams. I think it's ridiculous.

1199
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 12: It's professional football.

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00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 6: Okay, thanks Dan Israel, I'll defend you, Fred. I don't

1201
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 6: think people are saying they're scared, no, scre It's like, which,

1202
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 6: you know, I think there's a reasonable.

1203
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: I am scared. The team isn't scared.

1204
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 6: No. But I don't even think like most people that

1205
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 6: talk about this stuff when they say, like I would,

1206
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 6: you know, I would rather play the Rams than the Seahawks,

1207
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 6: or the Seahawks than the Rams. It's not like, oh,

1208
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 6: I'm afraid of playing the other one. I'm you know.

1209
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 6: And again, like the offensive performances in these two games

1210
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 6: isn't probably going to be good enough, but they need

1211
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 6: to play better offense.

1212
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: As Christians in la Hey Christian.

1213
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 2: Hey, you guys, Hey, you guys, hey, you guys.

1214
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 10: You know what I am.

1215
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit angry today for a couple of reasons.

1216
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: One is the national media and this dialogue, especially led

1217
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: by this Kyle Brandt on.

1218
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 10: Good Morning Football.

1219
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, what's he doing?

1220
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: They have this the dialogue that the Patriots might be

1221
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 2: the first team to make it to the super Bowl

1222
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: without having played anybody or without having played a complete team.

1223
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: And if we win the super Bowl, we should have

1224
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: an asterbisk next to our name.

1225
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 4: Who said that? No one said they should have an asterisk.

1226
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: Kyle, Kyle Brent said that this morning.

1227
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 6: Mike, that's Mike's friend, He'll he'll talk to him.

1228
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: Kyle brand said that the Patriots should have an asterisk

1229
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 3: next to their.

1230
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 4: He said those exact words.

1231
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: Why, well, why did he say that?

1232
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: Because we haven't played a complete team yet in the playoffs.

1233
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 4: That's our fault, that seems.

1234
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: I thought going in the charges were a pretty well

1235
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: rounded team, their offensive just.

1236
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 13: Staying okay, they had the two linemen out right, yeah,

1237
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 13: and then with the textives they had their guys out

1238
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 13: and now Jared's didn't going to be out that that's

1239
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 13: not something that.

1240
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 2: We that we chose as a team. So why why

1241
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: should he say that, Well we win, it should be

1242
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: asked because we haven't played a complete team.

1243
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: Right.

1244
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 6: I don't you have to call him and ask him.

1245
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, Kyle br I thought he was a

1246
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: nice guy. He's not nice anymore.

1247
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 4: It's not nice anymore.

1248
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 3: In my book, he's on our list. Go get them,

1249
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: Patriots fans.

1250
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 6: You're right, Fred, We're back and you guys are Yeah.

1251
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean what other people's opinions. When other people

1252
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 6: have opinions that are different than mine, they they don't

1253
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 6: really piss me off.

1254
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: Disrespect though, disrespect Christian.

1255
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 6: What difference does it make if you can control it

1256
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 6: that he thinks that they haven't really been like pressed

1257
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 6: against a really well rounded team, Like what what? What

1258
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 6: if that's his opinion, what does it have to do

1259
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 6: with what the Patriots can control?

1260
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 4: Fair and not. They're going to have to I mean,

1261
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to finish it, finish it, like they're

1262
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 4: gonna have to win the super Bowl to shut all

1263
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: these people up.

1264
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 6: Even so, just for argument's sake, if the Patriots were

1265
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 6: to were to win against Denver, and that's all anybody's

1266
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 6: talking about, like you should you not go to the

1267
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 6: super Bowl?

1268
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: Like who cares? Who cares?

1269
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: I've already think to the super Bowl. But you know

1270
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: the fact that the national you're going.

1271
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: To scold him to this morning.

1272
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't worry about it, Christian.

1273
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 6: That's the very essence of him.

1274
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 3: We all we got, we all we need, we don't

1275
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: need them. Thanks, thanks for the call.

1276
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: Got under my skin yesterday. So I get it all right,

1277
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: I getvan.

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Speaker 15: end visibility on your most critical shipments fed X the

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Speaker 15: new power move.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna play the gameboard, you gotta learn to

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Speaker 3: play it right.

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Speaker 4: DraftKings is all about responsible game.

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Speaker 1: It's more fun when it's for fun, so played responsibly.

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Speaker 4: Draft Kings the Crown.

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Speaker 6: Is yours gambling problem called TWEE hundred twenty one plus.

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Speaker 4: Agent eligibility varies by jurisdiction.

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Speaker 8: Where's your self fixing patriots here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I might right?

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Speaker 4: Wondering if you can share any recollections about play in Denver,

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Speaker 4: and if there's any kind of.

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Speaker 2: Different way you need to prepare them given the altitude.

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Speaker 16: Other than going out there last Thursday, which wouldn't have

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Speaker 16: been an ideal situation considering we had to play last night.

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Speaker 16: But you know, I think just physiologically, you have to

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Speaker 16: be at altitude for for longer than a day or

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Speaker 16: two or three. I mean, it takes it takes time

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Speaker 16: to do that. And you know, so we'll do what

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Speaker 16: we've always done. We'll travel and be in condition and

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Speaker 16: be ready to play. And that's kind of about what

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Speaker 16: it is.

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Speaker 3: My key back Hollins back answer.

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Speaker 8: I can't be certainty right now.

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Speaker 16: We're just still working through everything with some of those

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Speaker 16: guys that could be back. Josh Farmer could be eligible

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Speaker 16: to come back as well as Mac. Right, you know,

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Speaker 16: the those aren't decisions that we've made yet.

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Speaker 3: You elaborate some more on light.

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Speaker 17: It's the important team to get into the funnel after

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Speaker 17: the game and a great players as that come off

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Speaker 17: the fields.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I've done this since twenty and eighteen. I just

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Speaker 16: you know, these guys, this is a tough game. It's

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Speaker 16: a physical game. It's uh, you know, they're beat up,

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Speaker 16: they're banged up, and I want to thank them. It's

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Speaker 16: a good opportunity in order to see him. May not

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Speaker 16: have the opportunity to go around to see each and

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Speaker 16: every one of them after the game, So I feel

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Speaker 16: like that's a good chance to to thank them and

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Speaker 16: be appreciative of their efforts, whether we win or lose.

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Speaker 9: Coach yesterday Drake by oas Here said, he's still getting

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Speaker 9: adjusted to your sudecast as a coach.

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Speaker 8: Said, he still your side chasm.

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Speaker 18: How do you cite that balance between being the guy

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Speaker 18: that place get proached but also making sure.

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Speaker 1: You're still act.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I try to be as approachable as possible.

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Speaker 16: I try to, you know, I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 16: is getting out of your office. You know, whether the

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Speaker 16: door to your office is always open still doesn't mean

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Speaker 16: they want to come in and.

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Speaker 8: Sit down and talk.

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Speaker 16: So trying to find places and meet them where they're at,

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Speaker 16: being meeting rooms.

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Speaker 8: Being a cafeteria, be in the weight room, places like that.

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Speaker 17: Like you've talked about him before, but where have you

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Speaker 17: seen Kaisha Booney develop most this year?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Probably just his versatility.

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Speaker 16: I think he you know, he's an easy learner, could

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Speaker 16: play a bunch of different spots if we asked him to.

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Speaker 16: But also, you know, I wasn't around Kishon before this year, right,

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Speaker 16: so I don't have anything to go off of.

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Speaker 8: I just know that he's.

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Speaker 16: Very unselfish, that he makes the most of his opportunities,

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Speaker 16: seems to be and has been highly competitive player, doesn't

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Speaker 16: say a whole lot and does his work, has always been.

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Speaker 8: Accountable, and there is.

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Speaker 16: Where he needs to be when he needs to be there,

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Speaker 16: and you notice his actions. You don't necessarily hear him,

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Speaker 16: and that's just his personality, but you could certainly see

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Speaker 16: that his identity when he plays is exactly what we

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Speaker 16: want with kind of key Sean.

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Speaker 17: He obviously, like you said, you never worked with when

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Speaker 17: you join a team and those players we've been there before.

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Speaker 17: How do you balance having an open mind about that

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Speaker 17: player but also getting as much information about him as

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Speaker 17: possible from people who were with him the past few years.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I think we tried to, you know,

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Speaker 16: listen to people that had been around some of the

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Speaker 16: players that we had on the roster getting here. But

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Speaker 16: then it's usually best to just kind of go by

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Speaker 16: what you see and what you experience as opposed to

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Speaker 16: what you hear sent fourth.

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Speaker 1: Down to play early in the game, that touchdown to Pop.

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Speaker 1: What makes him a trustworthy player in a situation like that.

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Speaker 16: Yere, You know, I think that that just goes back

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Speaker 16: to training camp, goes back to the OTAs Pop. He

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Speaker 16: has really done a nice job and being ready to go.

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Speaker 16: And I know that like every other receiver, I wish

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Speaker 16: that they had more snaps, and they wish they had

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Speaker 16: more targets, and you know, by taking advantage of the

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Speaker 16: ones that he gets, which he has done, you know,

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Speaker 16: we have to continue to find ways to get him

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Speaker 16: to football.

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Speaker 8: And have them help us.

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Speaker 16: So I think that that's just the confidence that's been

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Speaker 16: built up through through training camp, in the off season.

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Speaker 10: Mark this morning on radio, you mentioned that you gets

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Speaker 10: an AUSSM work on.

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Speaker 4: Jared said, I'm just curious what you saw from him

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Speaker 4: as a quarterback when you were doing that work.

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Speaker 16: Well, I guess it was kind of ironic, you know,

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Speaker 16: just speaking with his agent, they're like, well, if you

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Speaker 16: don't want you're starting to get hurt hired signed jareded

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Speaker 16: because that was.

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Speaker 8: Before you know, yesterday or too days ago.

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Speaker 16: You know, just going back to when Josh had him

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Speaker 16: and playing against that. I just think he sees things

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Speaker 16: really well. I think he's athletic enough to extend. Like

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Speaker 16: we talk about a lot of quarterbacks, the accuracy. I

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Speaker 16: think the decision making is really decisive in the games

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Speaker 16: that that we went back and watched. And this is

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Speaker 16: even going back to when I was in Tennessee as well.

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Speaker 1: Like your t that's a really good road record.

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Speaker 18: It seems like the guys like going out on the road.

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Speaker 15: How do you feel they do and prepare in a

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Speaker 15: type of challenge in a hostile environment.

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Speaker 16: And I just think that they really focus in on

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Speaker 16: on the road environment, like you said, of starting you

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Speaker 16: know well and not beating ourselves and trying to be

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Speaker 16: good at the line of scrimmage and the communication offensively

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Speaker 16: that's required to make sure that everybody's on the same

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Speaker 16: page and that the snap count is good and that

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Speaker 16: guys are moving when they're supposed to be moving. I

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Speaker 16: think we've x cut it in some critical situations when

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Speaker 16: we've needed to on the road, and those are things

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Speaker 16: that are important.

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Speaker 8: Why has it seem been so good this year at

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Speaker 8: seizing momentum and maintaining because you know what football is.

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 8: On basketball, there's no ten o runs. When you guys

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Speaker 8: have been able to get momentum, you've been able to

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Speaker 8: keep it on your sideline. Who's the keep into you

1441
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Speaker 8: being able to do that?

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Speaker 16: I think the guys don't get too high or too low.

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Speaker 16: I mean, hopefully we can understand that we can feed

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Speaker 16: off each other but also pick each other up. You know,

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 16: the defense has been doing that a little bit lately,

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01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 16: and we have to do a better job of not

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Speaker 16: making it be a sudden change, but making it be

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Speaker 16: complimentary and when the offense is rolling, getting the ball

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Speaker 16: back to them quickly. But also if the situation arises

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Speaker 16: that we have to go out there and play defense

1451
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 16: you know in a you know, short notice, that we're

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Speaker 16: able to do that as well, and then offensively we

1453
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 16: can strength some drives together and the special teams continue

1454
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Speaker 16: to try to set the table.

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Speaker 4: Mike, You've had to face two of the better defenses

1456
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs in the.

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Speaker 1: Chargers and Pisons.

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Speaker 10: Where do you fit Denvers defense in that?

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Speaker 16: Well, then again they'll be the best defense and we've

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Speaker 16: played to date because it's the next one, I mean,

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Speaker 16: that's just how this goes.

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Speaker 8: Or playing a lot of confidence.

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Speaker 16: They're good on the perimeter, we're really good up front

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Speaker 16: and the athleticism, their size, they put a lot of

1465
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Speaker 16: pressure on you. So you know, that's just how this

1466
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 16: thing goes. Each and every week they get tougher.

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Speaker 1: Guy John's question, is keeping your composure of something you

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Speaker 1: preach and maybe rep in practice or is that more

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Speaker 1: about the guys that.

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Speaker 16: You have to Well, I mean, I think we try

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Speaker 16: to preach it. I mean we try to take guys

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Speaker 16: to the line. I mean, we can't finish longer than

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Speaker 16: the guy with the ball and play full tilt to

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Speaker 16: the tackle, and you know, we try to take them

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Speaker 16: to the edge and ask them to pull off and

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Speaker 16: and not do anything after the whistle and not be

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Speaker 16: the second guy in and make great decisions.

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Speaker 8: And sometimes that's hard. This is an emotional game.

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Speaker 16: But for the most part, I think we've made great

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Speaker 16: decisions and has been able to do that and not

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Speaker 16: do anything.

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Speaker 8: That that would affect the team after the whistle.

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Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 3: History. We don't know where Eric is. We're not sure.

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Speaker 3: We're not sure where Eric is, but he's not on

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Speaker 3: the show today.

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Speaker 9: I really want to know if he knows who the

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Speaker 9: Patriots new quarterback is.

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Speaker 6: I think that's fascinating. I'm so with Megan on that.

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Speaker 6: I think there's at least a fifty to fifty shot

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Speaker 6: that he does not.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't heard yet. Eric's vacations are kind of like

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Speaker 3: the Patriots reported to camp for the public, we know,

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01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: like camp starts on a certain day, but for the team,

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 3: like there's a day before that for conditioning, and then

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Speaker 3: there's a day that rookie injured. Godation, Like it's not

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Speaker 3: just the days he's on the vacation, it's like he

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Speaker 3: needs a day in the front end to get ready,

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Speaker 3: he needs a day in the back end to reacclimate.

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot. It's always longer than you think

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 1: It's got to get all his sweaters. Yeah, that's another

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Speaker 1: great moment.

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Speaker 3: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered eight five to

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Speaker 3: five pats five hundred podcasts at Patriots dot com as

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Speaker 3: the email address Mark and fall River Rights. And first,

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Speaker 3: I'd like to express my condolences to Evan. We know

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Speaker 3: his feelings on a team making the conference championship game

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Speaker 3: and having to pick at the end of the first

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Speaker 3: round for the next draft. Sorry, v maybe next year

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Speaker 3: will be better.

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Speaker 1: Like that now, he doesn't like it.

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Speaker 6: I at least laugh when they make fun of me

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Speaker 6: for saying CJ. Strod is good.

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Speaker 3: That was good. Second, I know it's been talked about extensively,

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Speaker 3: but how much of a profit does Mike Rabel look

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Speaker 3: like when the very first thing I remember him saying

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Speaker 3: this year is we're going to take advantage of bad football.

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Speaker 3: This was goal number one, and it has defined their season.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if Rabel has the same aura that was

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Speaker 3: around Belichick when it comes to game planning, with players

1522
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: saying we felt like we knew what was coming. That

1523
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 3: could be helpful in attracting good players, and I think

1524
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 3: Rabel has shown that this year. You guys heard players mention.

1525
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 4: That a little bit. I think that it's more about

1526
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 4: motivation with him than it is inspiration.

1527
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, motivate, you're gonna inspire it whatever.

1528
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 4: It's more about inspira, is it inspira?

1529
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 14: Like?

1530
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 4: You know, after the game on Sunday, not that they're

1531
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 4: not prepared and all that stuff, but after the game

1532
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 4: on Sunday, all the players kept talking about how much

1533
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 4: of Rabel was telling them, well, there's only one good

1534
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 4: defense that's going to be out there on Sunday and

1535
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 4: it belongs to Houston, you know, like like little things

1536
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 4: like that just to kind of like get the defense

1537
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 4: motivated or inspired or whatever the hell term he uses.

1538
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: And it's touff, you know, Like I think that his

1539
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 4: days as a as a player help him sort of

1540
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 4: know what buttons to push in that regard, Whereas I

1541
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 4: think Bill got people confident because of how prepared they were,

1542
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 4: you know, And I think that there's maybe a little

1543
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 4: bit of a difference there. Not again not saying that

1544
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 4: they're not prepared now, but it's just he relates to

1545
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 4: them a little bit more. I think on on the

1546
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 4: human level. I noticed that.

1547
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 3: But I would imagine that Brabel has took some stuff

1548
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 3: from Belichick.

1549
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 4: I think pare the sort of uh details of the

1550
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 4: things they can't control, whether altitude next week, you know,

1551
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 4: those types of things like he was asked yesterday about

1552
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 4: the altitude and he already knew how long it would

1553
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 4: take to acclimate to altitude, so they already had researched

1554
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 4: all of that and whether or not going out early

1555
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 4: was going to be worth it or not. That's very Belichick, right,

1556
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 4: like that that they know those kinds of like little

1557
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 4: scientific details.

1558
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I clocked one thing to clocked it, noticed it tracked.

1559
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: Brabel said, I think might have been his postgame press

1560
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: conference talking about putting him in pads last week and

1561
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: how the players embraced that, and you know, it seemed

1562
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more like putting those guys in pads

1563
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: was like a feeling out process and selling it on them,

1564
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: where I feel like maybe with Bill it was like,

1565
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: weren't pats today? Shut the f up?

1566
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: You know, of course, what do you think this is

1567
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 3: the physical gaming? Tyler and Georgia. With the turnover fest

1568
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: that was this past Sunday, I don't think I've ever

1569
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 3: watched a game that felt so never in doubt and

1570
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 3: constantly in doubt at the same time. Fortunately, I have

1571
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 3: zero concerns about this upcoming Sunday because there is absolutely

1572
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: no way the NFL will allow the Broncos to win.

1573
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 3: The Logistics of having to move the Super Bowl to

1574
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: Denver at the last minute would be a night.

1575
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 4: I didn't know which way that was good, Tyler.

1576
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 6: It was very well done, but it could have gone

1577
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 6: a different way. Yeah, I mean, there's no way the

1578
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 6: NFL is going to let Jared's Broncos go and have

1579
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 6: to have Jared Stidham play in the Super Bowl. I

1580
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 6: thought he was going yeah, But I like his little

1581
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 6: twist one that that was well done, playing.

1582
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: Into the front of it all. Yeah, you've got to

1583
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: go to Denver. You're gonna do anything any traditions there.

1584
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: You've been there, what a hundred times? Probably?

1585
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been. We've been there a lot. We're going

1586
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 3: to get in late in the afternoon. There's a street

1587
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 3: I like to walk down. It's got some nice shops.

1588
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: If I have time, you know, yeah, pick something up.

1589
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1590
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 6: I also liked his point about the game, like I

1591
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 6: felt the same way. Doubt it was never in doubt,

1592
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 6: and then they would do something dumb to put it

1593
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 6: right back in doubt, right, you know right.

1594
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: And then the Patriot would take it another takeaway and

1595
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: it's not that back now.

1596
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 4: And the only way that that they could lose was

1597
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 4: den Houston scoring on defense.

1598
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 6: Right, and the Patriots kept giving them chances to score

1599
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 6: on defense.

1600
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 4: But I just had never a doubt that the Patriots defense,

1601
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 4: the Patriots defense was not going to give up a

1602
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 4: thirty two yard bomb to one of the Texans receivers.

1603
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 4: I never thought that, No, but I fumble six was

1604
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 4: definitely in play.

1605
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 6: That would like, at the half, it's twenty one to ten.

1606
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 6: I didn't think the game was in doubt at all,

1607
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 6: to be honest, I mean I wouldn't say like full nod,

1608
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 6: but like kind of what Evan said, like just don't

1609
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 6: do anything stupid. And then you go out and you

1610
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 6: do something stupid, you know, and it's twenty one thirteen

1611
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 6: and they have a chance to go in and then

1612
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 6: Woody Marx fumbles it right back and you're like, yeah,

1613
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 6: it was twenty one sixteen in the fourth quarter and

1614
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 6: the game technically was hanging in the balance. I never

1615
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 6: really felt like it was in the balance, Yeah, because

1616
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 6: I didn't think that Houston was going to be able

1617
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 6: to put together scoring drives.

1618
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 4: One thing I want to give Patriots fans some kudos

1619
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 4: for a lot of people on Paul shows in particular,

1620
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 4: I like to say that this crowd doesn't bring it.

1621
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 4: And I thought that both playoff games I thought had

1622
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 4: two really good crowds. I thought it was loud here.

1623
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 4: I thought that they got the Texans to jump fall

1624
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 4: start a couple of times. I thought that this was

1625
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 4: as loud as I've heard it here in quite a

1626
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 4: bit of time, and it was noticeable that I thought

1627
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 4: the crowd was into it, and I thought it was

1628
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go as far as say this

1629
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 4: is now Arrowhead or Seattle or anything like that, but

1630
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 4: I didn't think that it was no advance of playing

1631
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 4: these games at home, and I thought that the crowd

1632
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 4: did its part.

1633
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: It's the more remarkable turnarounds of the season is just

1634
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: how bad at home they've been over the first you know,

1635
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: last couple of years. And even that initial game los

1636
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: into the Raiders and then lose into the Steelers. You know,

1637
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: you lose two home games in the first three weeks

1638
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 1: and then to win two playoff games. Yeah, pretty impressive.

1639
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: I remember saying like, we got to get the home

1640
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: field advantage back, and they're winning games back here again.

1641
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: It's good.

1642
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 3: Let's go to Pensacola. Willie. What's up, Willie? I can't

1643
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 3: see the dog, Willie. Pensacola completely blocked out? No, okay, goodbye, Willie.

1644
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 18: What do you think about them on ticket Master blocking

1645
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 18: New England fans from buying tickets to the game.

1646
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I saw that. I think that's weak. Yeah, I

1647
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 3: mean the fact that they have tickets available is weak,

1648
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 3: but that they're not allowing people outside of those zip

1649
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 3: codes to buy them. You know, whatever, you know, if

1650
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 3: that's what you feel you have to do. Okay, that's

1651
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 3: that's how I got around at No. Six with the

1652
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 3: charge as they did the same thing. But I was

1653
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: in California resident at the time, so I was able

1654
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 3: to get those things. But you know, you've got tickets available.

1655
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know.

1656
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 4: To go around.

1657
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. Look elsewhere.

1658
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 4: Give me an email, Christian Chris with a T, I

1659
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 4: A N.

1660
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: What's up?

1661
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 9: This is incredible. You know, just uh got to keep

1662
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 9: it going. Can't stop now. Victims of their own success. Man,

1663
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 9: we got to take this thing all the way. This

1664
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 9: is fantastic and I just you know, I wanted to

1665
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 9: call it just to really to thank ownership. We're here

1666
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 9: because of Robert, and Robert made a quick decision to

1667
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 9: move on last year, made a significant financial commitment. Yeah,

1668
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 9: he's got the money, but a lot of owners woudn't

1669
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 9: want to spend the money to do what he had

1670
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 9: to do to pay off. But we had to payoff

1671
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 9: to get off the coach and staff and bring in

1672
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 9: Braves and then completely go out and dominate the free

1673
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 9: agent market and hit a home run with that, and

1674
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 9: we're here because of ownership. We really are, Like, I'm

1675
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 9: so thankful to have him. We're so lucky to get Drake,

1676
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 9: We're so lucky that Rabel was available. Like you look

1677
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 9: at the past few weeks since the season has ended,

1678
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 9: and it's been absolute chaos across the league, and I

1679
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 9: just every week it's something, you know, like McDermott yesterday,

1680
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 9: you know, last week, Harbaughs, it's and it's you know,

1681
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 9: you just did's such a whirlwind and yeah, he's not perfect,

1682
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 9: and it's but it's up six years this, you know

1683
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 9: this Brady left. But this is fun. Man. I haven't

1684
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 9: had this much fun in a long time. And just

1685
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 9: so grateful and just got to keep it going. Got

1686
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 9: to keep it going. Can't stop now, got to keep

1687
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 9: it going.

1688
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks graz All right, I mean we talked

1689
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: about it the other night. Every decision it seems they

1690
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 3: made in the off season was the right one, starting

1691
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 3: with the decision to move on from Mayo and on

1692
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 3: to Rabel, and then Rabel and then bringing in McDaniels

1693
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 3: and Stretch and you know, all these people, all the

1694
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: free agents.

1695
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 4: The agency class is unbelievable.

1696
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: You know, just everything they've done turned to gold. Yeah,

1697
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: and that's rare.

1698
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 4: That is rare to hit on, especially to hit on

1699
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: this many free agents and have them all be good.

1700
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 4: Like if we go back to the twenty twenty one

1701
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 4: spending spree, like Johnny Smith was not a good signing,

1702
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 4: Nelson al was a pretty average signing, Jalen mill is

1703
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 4: pretty average, you know, and some of.

1704
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 3: Them worked out Henry with signing and.

1705
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, that was a good class too, But

1706
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 6: this one has been almost perfect.

1707
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean even down to like

1708
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 4: you know, the Tongas and you know, those types of

1709
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 4: guys that weren't around, you know, big money expenditures. They've

1710
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 4: hit on the big ticket items with Millon Williams, they've

1711
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 4: hit on the small ticket items with guys like Tonga

1712
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 4: and you know, Garrett Bradberry having a bounce back year.

1713
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 4: They signed Morgan Moses, who was been the best tackle

1714
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 4: from that free agency class.

1715
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 3: The rivalries uniform, I would add in.

1716
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 4: There great same same thing.

1717
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: Even some of the holdover players like Kashawan Boudi career year,

1718
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Hawkins career year, who to keep Who did.

1719
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 4: Not Chase On? Chase On spend the best player on

1720
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 4: defense the first two weeks of the play.

1721
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: He priced is he is he going bye bye? Is

1722
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: he getting Is he making himself enough money in this playoff? That?

1723
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 4: Because you look at what Landry did.

1724
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: Landry played eleven snaps and I already felt like edge

1725
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: was a huge knee going into this offseason. And now

1726
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: you're looking at you really might need to sign too.

1727
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to spend a ton of

1728
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: money this offseason, but if there's one spot to invest,

1729
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: I would definitely look at the edge spot. And I

1730
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: would definitely look at the safety spot. And I wonder what,

1731
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, what kind of market Chase was going to have,

1732
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: and I wonder what kind of market Jalen Hawkins is

1733
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: going to happen.

1734
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 4: I think it's a question of a Chase On, like,

1735
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 4: I guess, is this now who he's going to be?

1736
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: I mean, he's the first round pick, so the talent

1737
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 4: was in there. Did Mike Rabold?

1738
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: Is he just and this defense is good for him?

1739
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 3: Right?

1740
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 4: It's a great scheme fit. Obviously Rabel is an outside linebacker.

1741
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 4: You know, does he give him coaching that's pushed him

1742
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 4: over the edge because this was always in there. I

1743
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 4: mean it was it was as a prospect. It's why

1744
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 4: he went twentieth overall in his draft. So is this

1745
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 4: who he is now? Or is he hot at the

1746
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 4: right time?

1747
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 10: Right?

1748
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: You know?

1749
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 4: And you have to be careful by that. Now, Milton

1750
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 4: Williams did was last year.

1751
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 6: Mike's point on that, I agree with you, guys. That's

1752
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 6: going to be important. Does what he's doing in the playoffs,

1753
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 6: because I think you can make an argument that these

1754
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 6: have been his two best games. That's when everybody's watching, right,

1755
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 6: So has that priced him out? You know what I mean?

1756
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 6: You know, not that he's had a bad year. I

1757
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 6: think he's had a really solid year, but I think

1758
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 6: he's been really really good in these two playoffs. And

1759
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 6: then someone might look at that and say, we got

1760
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 6: to get that guy.

1761
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 9: Yep.

1762
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 4: Let's see what he does against Garrett Bulls, you know,

1763
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 4: like going up against Ursery and whatever was that tackle

1764
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 4: for the Chargers like that?

1765
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: That's not exactly disrespectful.

1766
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 4: But if you do this against the first team all

1767
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 4: pro on Sunday in the I don't care who's that quarterback?

1768
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 4: Like if he's beaten bulls that Kyle Brant Junion then uh,

1769
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 4: then you know that that's gonna go a long way.

1770
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: And so we'll see. But I think that he's back.

1771
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 4: I think that that's a guy that I would probably

1772
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 4: look to keep and then probably draft a young edge

1773
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 4: to pair with him to try to Yeah, you know, groom.

1774
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: Let Jennings and Ponder continue to fill out the desk.

1775
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 4: Or the third and fourth guy, and yeah.

1776
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: I just I think we get it to this end

1777
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: of the season. It's it could be kind of like

1778
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: the hockey thing where and Harry later had knee surgery too,

1779
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: Like I just am waiting to hear what that actually was,

1780
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: right and.

1781
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 6: Dealing with So speaking of injuries that we may not

1782
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 6: know the extent of or not, will Campbell anyone concerned

1783
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 6: that maybe he's not healthy?

1784
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I hadn't thought about it.

1785
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 4: I had thought about it. It's it's something that you

1786
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 4: have to keep in the back of your mind because

1787
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 4: you can't just rip the guy if he's playing on

1788
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 4: one leg. Like who knows.

1789
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 3: Uh.

1790
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 4: But I think the problem is is that against like

1791
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 4: really good edge rushers, these are the same problems he

1792
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 4: was having when he was healthy.

1793
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 6: So I just bring it up. I'm not necessarily weighing

1794
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 6: in either way. I'm doing that. I want to give him.

1795
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 4: I want to give him the grace I do. But

1796
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 4: you know, all season long, when he's played, you know,

1797
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 4: that next level up in competition, he's had some of

1798
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 4: the same issues, especially high side rushers, like guys getting

1799
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 4: you know, around his edge with the speed and the

1800
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 4: length and that ability. So I just I wish I

1801
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 4: could say that that it was all that, but it's

1802
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 4: kind of the same stuff that's been plaguing him.

1803
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 6: Fighting to protect them with everything in our.

1804
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 3: Daft got that right. Paul in the Colony wants to know.

1805
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 3: Does evens still think it's too soon to play in

1806
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: the AC Championship game? Are we setting the franchise back

1807
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 3: for years to come? Like the Commanders did.

1808
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 4: I really like the track of this see now, that

1809
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 4: was a better one than the draft one, because what

1810
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 4: people don't understand about the draft is when they're picking

1811
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 4: thirtieth is my time to shine because you know who

1812
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 4: the first five guys are in the draft, but you're

1813
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 4: not going to know who is going to be drafted.

1814
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 4: You know, once we get out of the first round,

1815
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 4: most people unless you're a nerd like me, or you know,

1816
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: no a couple names here or there. This is the

1817
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 4: type of draft where people like barth or this is

1818
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 4: where you need him. Don't need him to tell you

1819
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 4: to draft Rake May and Will Campbell.

1820
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 3: You know, Jordan thinks that the resemblance between the twenty

1821
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 3: five Patriots and the one Patriots is starting to get weird.

1822
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 4: A team led by a new coach.

1823
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 3: Goes on a magical run to the playoffs with the

1824
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 3: help of a young, up and coming quarterback, with the

1825
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: help of a veteran defense dominating opponents. In the playoffs,

1826
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: they win against an opponent in a snow game who

1827
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 3: many in the media thought they lose to. Their next

1828
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 3: opponent is an AFC rival who they historically have issues

1829
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 3: beating away from home, and their potentially potential Super Bowl

1830
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 3: opponent a Veterans Rams team who boasts the top offense

1831
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 3: in the league, led by an experienced quarterback with two

1832
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 3: top wide receivers. All the media will pick the Rams

1833
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 3: and of course be wrong when the Patriots defeat them

1834
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 3: to win May and Vrabel's first ring. Just like Radian,

1835
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 3: Belichick didn't know one, Do I smell another dynasty?

1836
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fair point.

1837
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 6: I don't see a lot of similarities from for one,

1838
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 6: in really year, I didn't say I didn't see any.

1839
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 6: I mean he just he just named like a handful

1840
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 6: of that or similar but I don't I don't really

1841
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 6: see a lot of Yeah, I think it's been a

1842
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 6: different I mean, this has basically been an offensive driven

1843
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 6: team with a quarterback who's leading the way as opposed

1844
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 6: to a quarterback who just kind of came in and

1845
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 6: was a game manager at the time. As much as

1846
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 6: I have all the respect for Brady, he was kind

1847
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:38,799
Speaker 6: of leaning.

1848
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: On defense did at times when he had to.

1849
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 6: He was great in the clutch. Again, another lack of

1850
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 6: a similarity, like they haven't had those situations, you know,

1851
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 6: And I just think it's it's really different. I think

1852
01:23:54,360 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 6: it's I don't know. I gets there's some similarities. I

1853
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 6: just don't see it as much as that.

1854
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: One or this one. This one.

1855
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. And Brady was a

1856
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 4: sixth round pick versus being the third overall pick in

1857
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 4: the draft, and that's a big difference too. But it's

1858
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 4: a big free agent class, you know, second year quarterback,

1859
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:27,480
Speaker 4: Newish head coach you know, uh, great defense in the playoffs.

1860
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 4: I I mean I thought about it on Sunday when

1861
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 4: they would beat the Technive.

1862
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 6: People have been talking about it all year, and I

1863
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 6: don't think it's like not even close. Like don't get

1864
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 6: me wrong, Like I understand what you know. There's a

1865
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 6: lot of it was a good free agent class and

1866
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 6: all that stuff, second year quarterbacks, but I don't look

1867
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 6: at it as being all that similar because of the

1868
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 6: style of the games, the way that this team is

1869
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 6: completely offensive driven. You know, during the course of the

1870
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 6: regular season. Now in the playoffs, the defense is is dominated,

1871
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 6: the two deep, the two player. It's been a whole

1872
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 6: different story. If it was like this all year and

1873
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 6: you were kind of scuffling on offense and the defense,

1874
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 6: and I would say, oh, now, I see, I see

1875
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 6: a little more what you guys are talking about sticks rights.

1876
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 3: In defense of Drake May I'm trying to figure out

1877
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 3: why they keep saying May played terrible. Yes, he had

1878
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 3: a few fumbles, but that they're leaving out the part

1879
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 3: that he also threw three touchdowns. Only one other person

1880
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 3: did that against that defense this year. If he doesn't

1881
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,839
Speaker 3: throw those touchdowns, we lose. Look how other quarterbacks performed

1882
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 3: against that defense. Josh Allen three interceptions, no touchdowns, Pat

1883
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 3: Mahome three interceptions, no touchdowns, Matt Stafford one touchdown. I

1884
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 3: think they making it a big deal about May when

1885
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: he played way better in the second half. That's when

1886
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 3: good players do it. So we're winning. So he's playing

1887
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 3: bad right now, just one second, he played really, really bad.

1888
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 6: We're saying he can't be sloppy with the football going

1889
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 6: forward as he's been in these two games. The reason

1890
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 6: why you got away with it is because Will Campbell

1891
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 6: keeps recovering the fumblesh You got away with it because

1892
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 6: you're recovering half of the fumbles. He has six fumbles.

1893
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 6: The Patriots have recovered three of them. Now you could say,

1894
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 6: I mean, I think there's probably Bill Barnwell stats out

1895
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 6: there to say that's that's the randomness of a fumble.

1896
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 6: It's like fifty to fifty and that's probably true. But

1897
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 6: all it takes is one game where you fumble four

1898
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 6: times and don't recover any of them, and you go

1899
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 6: home right Like, you fumble four times, you recover two

1900
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 6: of them the other day.

1901
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 4: Especially at strip sacks, it's hard to recover a strip

1902
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 4: sack because you know the defense isn't both of them.

1903
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 4: The Texans had in their hands with a guy scooping

1904
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 4: it to go in and wasn't able to quite secure it.

1905
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1906
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 6: Like, and I'm not telling you that he played poorly

1907
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 6: he made three unbelievable touchdown throws or didn't care about

1908
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 6: the touchdowns. The other guys you scored them, and they

1909
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 6: averaged seventeen points allowed in the game and you scored

1910
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 6: twenty one. Like you were basically in line to what

1911
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,440
Speaker 6: Houston has been giving up to everybody.

1912
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 3: And unless a quarterback with those mistakes wouldn't have been

1913
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 3: able to do what he did, they'd fold. Yeah, he

1914
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 3: never lost.

1915
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 4: That would I give him the most credit for it

1916
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 4: didn't go in the blunder like he could have very

1917
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 4: easily lost his marbles and like Stroud died frankly.

1918
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 3: Frankly he did.

1919
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 4: But you know, this was his worst statistical game of

1920
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 4: the season by far. And LOSDPA, lowess drop back success rate,

1921
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 4: lowest QBR. And I know the passer ratings, sorry, I know,

1922
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 4: the passer rating is one hundred. They don't count the

1923
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 4: fumbles in passer ratings, so passer rating doesn't dock him

1924
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 4: for fumbles. So that's why the passer rating is still

1925
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 4: really really good. Because he was three touchdowns to one pick,

1926
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 4: it's still going to be pretty high. But all the

1927
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 4: you know, good advanced metrics those ones count, fumbles, count

1928
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 4: the five sacks, you know, count all this other stuff

1929
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 4: that gets baked into all of it.

1930
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 6: And I would just say, we're comparing him to himself.

1931
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 6: So he set a record or whatever. He was a

1932
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 6: set of Patriots record anyway for completion percentage, right, yep.

1933
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 6: He hasn't been anywhere near that in the playoffs sixty games,

1934
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 6: So like that's what we're talking about. We're not saying

1935
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 6: like he was c. J. Stroud on Sunday who completely

1936
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 6: took away any chance his team had to win. He

1937
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 6: was so bad.

1938
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 8: Yea.

1939
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 6: And also like the whole turnover thing. I know, we

1940
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 6: threw a pick, but the pick came on a hail

1941
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 6: Mary in the last play of the half. So like

1942
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 6: the whole five to three internal was really five to two.

1943
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 6: That doesn't count, right, Like that one doesn't really count.

1944
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 6: Now the Texans turned it over five times, the Patriots

1945
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 6: turned it over twice.

1946
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,759
Speaker 4: That's the cool thing. Not to pump the epas tires,

1947
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 4: but like e p A knows that that was a

1948
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 4: hail Mary at the end of the half, what does

1949
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 4: he live? So it doesn't it lives in the It

1950
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 4: lives in the I got an e PA stat for you.

1951
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 4: It lives in the cloud.

1952
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 3: But that so they he looks like a little kid

1953
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:42,759
Speaker 3: looks at Santa Claus.

1954
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 6: That's kind of the way I look at it, like

1955
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 6: it doesn't exist.

1956
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 3: That's that one the PA for this season. I would

1957
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 3: like he does.

1958
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: It doesn't even make any sense the.

1959
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 4: The e p A does not dock him the pick. Okay,

1960
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 4: that's all.

1961
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 6: So I saw an EPA stat that was interesting. You know, again,

1962
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 6: to this is not to suggest that Drake may was

1963
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 6: as bad as Stroud. It wasn't even close. He wasn't

1964
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 6: any we'd need as damaging to his team as Stroud was.

1965
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 6: But I think Mike Giardi wrote a piece today that

1966
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:24,560
Speaker 6: said that that was the the third worst offensive EPA

1967
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 6: in a win all year for any team regular season playoffs,

1968
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 6: and the two games that were worse than that were

1969
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 6: the Raiders in Week eighteen against Kansas City. And I

1970
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 6: don't know if you remember, you probably don't. I'm a

1971
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 6: loser and I do remember these things? What do you

1972
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 6: got when the Jets beat Cleveland in that game when

1973
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 6: it was the game after they traded everybody, and they

1974
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 6: returned a punt and a kickoff for a touchdown. That's

1975
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 6: the only reason why they won the game. They couldn't

1976
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 6: move the ball the whole day just before we played them.

1977
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 6: Those were the only two offensive performances in victory that

1978
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 6: were worse than the Patriots on Sunday.

1979
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this was by e p A in

1980
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 4: his success rate which just you know, play success rate.

1981
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 4: This was the worst of his career, even worse than

1982
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 4: any of the games his rookie season, which I mean

1983
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 4: like that is.

1984
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 3: Was a person what would Epa look like?

1985
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 4: Smart, like some kid from Round Glass super Cuts haircut? Yeah, yeah,

1986
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, something like that. But you know,

1987
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 4: like some people just like stats that put context like

1988
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 4: into the number instead of just you know, you.

1989
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 3: Stick up for you. Joseph from Texas, just a few

1990
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 3: quick things I'm surprised haven't been said yet regarding Nix's injury.

1991
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 3: Paul's statement that it always works out for the Patriots,

1992
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 3: well doesn't need to be.

1993
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 6: Said at this point, saying.

1994
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 3: It to regarding the Patriots success. Fred's saying that we

1995
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 3: broke the rest of the AFC East and sent them

1996
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 3: into chaotic disarray.

1997
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 4: That's so true.

1998
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 6: We did, I think, what did I What did I

1999
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 6: tell I te I text that the Patriots broke the

2000
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 6: whole af You did say that, not just the ARC East.

2001
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 4: A little bit of a stretch.

2002
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 6: Harbaugh and Tomlin guys were there eighteen and nineteen years.

2003
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 6: They're gone because of the Patriots and now McDermott.

2004
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 4: Because it is gone, not because they have.

2005
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 6: After an eight straight years of playoff playoff appearances and

2006
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 6: wins in the playoffs six I think it's six years.

2007
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 4: And also a game that hasn't won a Patriots Patriots

2008
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 4: broke them.

2009
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2010
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 3: And also Paul texted me said, you know, my Bears

2011
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 3: did better than he thought they would.

2012
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 6: I said, I got to give you Beers credit, and

2013
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 6: I told him.

2014
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Should send a video game.

2015
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 3: There is a video shout out.

2016
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 4: The scribes are up in the press box doing ourscribing

2017
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 4: after the game on Sunday and the Bears Rams game

2018
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 4: was up on the TV and everybody is you know,

2019
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 4: Caleb threw that touch o at the end and everyone

2020
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 4: was going crazy like, oh my god, like and then

2021
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 4: you're looking up from your computer and you're like, oh

2022
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 4: my god.

2023
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 3: I was listening on the radio on the way home

2024
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 3: and Kevin Harland was doing the call and he was.

2025
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 4: Like, I hadn't seen that I wouldn't full limit.

2026
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was actually, I mean, I was pretty I

2027
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 6: was actually talking to No Socks about Kevin Harland, and

2028
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 6: I was kind of critical of him. But that was

2029
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 6: a great call of the last play. But when he

2030
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 6: was like describing that and he said he's back to

2031
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 6: the forty, and I'm thinking to myself, real quickly, please.

2032
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 3: Started on like the fourteen yard line.

2033
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 6: I was back to the forty. I'm like, there's no

2034
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 6: chance that he's Like god, it was amazing.

2035
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 3: The third thing that he's surprised hadn't be said, Fred

2036
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 3: would child like enthusiasm.

2037
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 4: If we win this game, we go to the super Bowl.

2038
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 3: But you seem a little worried about Stidham, Fred, which

2039
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,480
Speaker 3: has me worried. I'm telling you, be careful Patriots fans.

2040
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 6: Paul Is, don't lose this one.

2041
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, is Nick's getting hurt though the ultimate it

2042
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 1: always works out for the Patriots. I mean, has there

2043
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 1: ever been a bigger I was it always works out

2044
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: a championship quarterback gets injured.

2045
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 4: I was like going crazy in my apartment on Saturday

2046
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 4: when that happened. Like I'm just sitting there watching, you know,

2047
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 4: getting ready to watch the next one, by the way,

2048
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 4: and Sean Payge just walks out to the post to

2049
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 4: him and says, our quarterback is done for the year.

2050
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 6: And I was like, Fred, it's up there. I mean,

2051
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 6: I'd have to give it more thought, but this is

2052
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 6: just this run has been pretty you know good for

2053
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 6: some of that stuff. I was thinking myself, you know,

2054
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 6: Nico Collins might not have dropped half of those passes

2055
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 6: the other day.

2056
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 3: I was thinking myself about like what could have been?

2057
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 3: And you go back to that fateful game where the

2058
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 3: Patriots won the last game of the Mayo regime, which

2059
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 3: you know, don't drop them down to number three. What

2060
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 3: may have been the quarterback of this.

2061
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 4: I knew he was going to say it wrong draft.

2062
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: I knew it.

2063
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 6: I knew he was going to say it. I kept

2064
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 6: telling him. I kept that, kept wishing that that's right.

2065
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 3: I did it again.

2066
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: What does that happen? A lot? I don't either. It's

2067
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: like a lot of.

2068
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,799
Speaker 4: People screw up I am so sorry, so sorry.

2069
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 6: I don't I don't really understand, like this is the

2070
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,440
Speaker 6: most common.

2071
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 3: Will Campbell the the way the Patriots.

2072
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 4: It's like Paul and I were standing on the train

2073
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 4: track and.

2074
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,520
Speaker 6: Because it's so common, and I don't really understand.

2075
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 4: So let me ask the question.

2076
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 3: So I think maybe I understand where the confusions go.

2077
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 3: That year two years ago, was there a chance that

2078
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,799
Speaker 3: the Patriots could have had the first pick if something happened?

2079
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, I mean like there was

2080
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 4: they lost to the Commanders.

2081
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:29,959
Speaker 3: It wasn't so simple, yeah.

2082
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 4: Because it's strength to schedule, strength the victory.

2083
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 6: Like Chad Ryland, who really struggled badly that year, made

2084
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 6: like a fifty six yard field goal to beat Denver,

2085
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 6: and a lot of people said they went to Denver.

2086
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 6: I think it cost them, like the I remember two impossible, right, yeah,

2087
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 6: I think that's what a lot of people were complaining.

2088
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 6: But like, yeah, they could have had Jadeen Daniels.

2089
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 4: If you had to pull one thread out, it would

2090
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 4: be that one. Like if they if they lose that

2091
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 4: game in Denver, then maybe they would have had the

2092
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 4: number two pick. I'm not totally convinced that they would

2093
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 4: have taken Daniels over May, so I I.

2094
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: Really have no idea.

2095
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if that would have they had the

2096
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 3: first pick where they have picked Williams over all three

2097
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 3: of all the other.

2098
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 4: I think probably just because they probably needed to go,

2099
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 4: would be.

2100
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 1: In the same spot.

2101
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 3: Would I pick?

2102
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 6: No, No, if they had taken if they had gotten

2103
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 6: the number one pick and they.

2104
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 3: Had taken to bring in Josh McDaniels with them.

2105
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 6: Now I'm saying, if you had Williams on this team,

2106
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 6: would you be in the same spot?

2107
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 3: So maybe maybe I think if you have, like I said,

2108
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 3: if you have Josh McDaniels, I don't think that.

2109
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 6: Everything is the same with the team.

2110
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 4: I don't think Caleb would have had the regular season

2111
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 4: that Drake May had. Like I don't think that he

2112
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 4: would be a potential m VP.

2113
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 6: I would not say, as an example, he would be

2114
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 6: completing seventy two percent of his past right, But.

2115
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 4: I do the kind of I do think they might

2116
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 4: have won a lot of I mean, the Bears won

2117
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 4: a lot of games.

2118
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 6: They would have won a lot of yeah, like fourth

2119
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 6: quarter comebacks. Yeah, they would have won a lot of games.

2120
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 6: And I think they'd be in this sea.

2121
01:35:58,280 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 4: He's a really interesting player.

2122
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: Like I just he such a one of those never

2123
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: dead till the clock making a guy, like even when

2124
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: they got stopped on that fourth down, like they get

2125
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: the ball back, he's coming again.

2126
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 3: Like you can't set this guy from you. No, I

2127
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 3: don't want to go down a track. But let's assume

2128
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 3: that the Raiders gets the doors, all right? Is that

2129
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 3: a real potent offense?

2130
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 9: Now? Not yet?

2131
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 6: No brock Bowers and and you know, a decent running back.

2132
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 3: He could be great.

2133
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 6: He could be if they had five good linemen sart

2134
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 6: or something maybe. But yeah, I mean he had. He

2135
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 6: had a better year than people think. I think he was.

2136
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 6: I think he had more yards from scrimmage than than anybody,

2137
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 6: any of the rookies, right yeah, yeah.

2138
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 4: I mean i'll more than anybody else.

2139
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 1: But I'm probably fair.

2140
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 4: I think that would have been dooza that most of

2141
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 4: the people don't feel that he's quite in that tier

2142
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 4: of quarterback prospects.

2143
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 3: He's going to be really good.

2144
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's like, I'm just saying that smart.

2145
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 6: I think he plays a real NFL style. I will

2146
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 6: say that I think he like I don't know how

2147
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 6: good he's going to be. I'm not really good at that,

2148
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 6: but he seems like he throws the ball with anticipation.

2149
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 6: He throws the ball before guys are open, like you

2150
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 6: have to do.

2151
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 3: In the awareness. He's got the measure.

2152
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 4: He's gonna be the number one.

2153
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 6: I'm trying to tell you what they know. He's saying.

2154
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 6: He's not Andrew Luck. He's not one of these generational

2155
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 6: talents college.

2156
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 8: I agree with.

2157
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 4: I don't know where he would have been in Drake

2158
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 4: May's draft. I think that that would have been a

2159
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 4: conversation if you know, I I he's that's how he

2160
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 4: was the.

2161
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 3: QB for Penn State or Notre Dame. People would be

2162
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 3: calling him generational.

2163
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Indiana just won the national champion.

2164
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm still saying that he didn't have

2165
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,879
Speaker 3: that team behind getting doc because.

2166
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 4: I don't know about that. I mean, that's that offensive

2167
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 4: line won the Joe Moore Award. Their defense was great

2168
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 4: all year. But they I think that that's just how

2169
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 4: he's being. He's more like people compare him more to

2170
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 4: like a Jared Goff coming out or someone like that,

2171
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 4: and they're comparing him to like, you know, Caleb, Drake

2172
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,560
Speaker 4: May Jade and Daniels L.

2173
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 4: I think he's really really good. I'm not trying to

2175
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 4: say he isn't. That's just what the draft community is.

2176
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 3: I think he's the kind of kid that like, he

2177
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:18,560
Speaker 3: hasn't even reached his potential because I think he's smart, accurate.

2178
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 4: But that's how he's going to have to win the league. Yeah,

2179
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 4: I don't the physical tools, I like, I don't know

2180
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 4: how immense those really are. You know, he's not really

2181
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 4: a runner. That's the questions that people have are are

2182
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 4: more about the intangibles are off the charts, no, no

2183
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 4: doubt about that. But is he you know, physically how

2184
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 4: high is his ceiling as a prospect.

2185
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 3: Let's go to North Carolina, Kendall. What's up, Kendall, Kendall,

2186
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 3: it's a tease. Stop. Let's go to Manny in New Bedford. Hey, Manny, Hey,

2187
01:38:58,280 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 3: what's going on?

2188
01:38:59,080 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 10: Guys?

2189
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 3: Hey? Sorry?

2190
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 18: I don't want to keep beating a dead horse here.

2191
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 18: And I hate to sound really harsh because I love

2192
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 18: Will Campbell, but when do the excuses stop?

2193
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 8: You know?

2194
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 18: I remember we talked about it when we played the

2195
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 18: Browns and he had a terrible game against Miles Garrett.

2196
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 18: Expected Miles Garrett. It's just on a different level, right.

2197
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 18: And then I remember him making a comment after we

2198
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 18: played the Chargers about basing Khalil Mack. He's getting paid

2199
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 18: a ton of money. I get that, great players, But

2200
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 18: we drafted him fourth overaught pick. So are we like

2201
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 18: worried that he's not going to live up to that

2202
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,959
Speaker 18: fourth overall pick hype. So I'm kind of just really worried.

2203
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:39,600
Speaker 3: About a lot of people are.

2204
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,520
Speaker 18: Yeah, but I just don't want to keep making excuses

2205
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 18: for him or if he's a rookie, you know, but again,

2206
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 18: we drafted you fourth overrough pick, so you need to

2207
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 18: play to that expectation.

2208
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree with you, And I just want

2209
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 6: to just defend myself a little bit. I wasn't making

2210
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 6: an excuse for him when I asked if we thought

2211
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 6: he was healthy. I'm simply saying he had an and

2212
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 6: I think a sprained MCL came back pretty quickly from it.

2213
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 6: He only missed the four weeks on ir. That's that's

2214
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 6: a quick turnaround.

2215
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 1: Again.

2216
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 6: If I if I sounded like that was making an

2217
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 6: excuse for him, I didn't mean to. I was just

2218
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 6: asking asking for a friend. I don't know if it's true,

2219
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 6: maybe he's not healthy.

2220
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's true, but I've heard people

2221
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 3: say that they put him on IR to save him

2222
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 3: from himself, like they wanted it out of the question

2223
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 3: that he would come back too soon.

2224
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 4: I just think that, and look at there's there's the

2225
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 4: nature of the beast, and it's not going to be

2226
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 4: done this way. But we told you at the time

2227
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 4: that all fourth overall picks are created equal. Not every

2228
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 4: single fourth overall pick is going to be Lane Johnson

2229
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 4: or Joe Thomas or a Hall of Fame caliber player.

2230
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 4: In that draft, he was their best option in terms

2231
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 4: of day one starter at a huge, gigantic hole on

2232
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 4: the team, and for the most part, I would say

2233
01:40:55,720 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 4: that he's been average to above average and give them

2234
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 4: exactly what they needed. When he plays Will Anderson and

2235
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 4: Danielle Hunter and Miles Garrett, he gets beat and a

2236
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 4: lot of guys get beat by those types of guys.

2237
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 1: They do.

2238
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 4: And I just I understand that he was the fourth

2239
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 4: overall pick, but I think that the context of the

2240
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 4: class that he was drafted fourth overall in, which has

2241
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 4: not been very good by the way across the NFL,

2242
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 4: is important now it's not gonna it's gonna get lost

2243
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 4: in the wash with him, I'm sure. But if he's

2244
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 4: you know, we always go back to Matt Light, Like

2245
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,759
Speaker 4: if he's Matt Light, who had a lot of trouble

2246
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 4: with Jason Taylor, had a lot of trouble with Dwight Freeney.

2247
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:44,839
Speaker 4: But you know, fifteen or fourteen out of the sixteen

2248
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 4: guys that he faced in the season, he did a

2249
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 4: really good job against.

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01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 3: And my hope with Campbell is that he wants it

2251
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 3: so bad that he's going to do everything he can

2252
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 3: in the offseason to get better, and he'll he'll improve.

2253
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 3: You know, this is his first year, and he'll get

2254
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 3: better and he'll like, he'll be fine.

2255
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: He'll be fine.

2256
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 3: But you know, some people say, well, you can be

2257
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 3: fine at left tackle or possibly an All Pro guard,

2258
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 3: which would you rather do? And I go back to

2259
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 3: the whole Devin mccordy thing. They drafted him as a

2260
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 3: cornerback and second year they moved him into safety, and

2261
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 3: he was.

2262
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 6: A you know, I need my options would be at tackle.

2263
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 4: I would rather him play tackle, Yeah, I.

2264
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 6: Mean if I think I would if I have an option, yeah,

2265
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 6: I think I can do better. At tackle and if

2266
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 6: I could, then I'm feeling pretty good about him as

2267
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 6: a guard and Wilson moving over also, I want.

2268
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 3: Him to be tackled.

2269
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 1: That's why the callers the way he is.

2270
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 6: I agree with you. I think his personality has been

2271
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 6: such that he's such a nice kid. We all enjoy

2272
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 6: talking to him. He says kind of colorful things. It

2273
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 6: seems like he's really well liked in the locker room.

2274
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 6: With the Friday thing and the weather reports and stuff

2275
01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 6: that he's been doing, I think that's sort of have

2276
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 6: bought him a lot of goodwill among the media, and

2277
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 6: it wasn't until it got really glaring in these two

2278
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 6: playoff games that people have finally started saying, hh, yeah,

2279
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 6: he's okay. Yeah, you know, I think that never continues

2280
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 6: that way. You're going to have to have a conversation about.

2281
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: I think the conversation about them with the guard will

2282
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: continue into the offseason and will be a point that

2283
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: we talk about frequently. And I mean, I agree with

2284
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 1: Paul's point about it depends on who's available. But you know,

2285
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: just for me, if that did end up happening, I

2286
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 1: don't look at it as oh, they whiffed on the

2287
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: fourth overall pick, Like, did they get a good player?

2288
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 4: Is he going to start for them?

2289
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 1: Still? You know, I'm still okay with that.

2290
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 6: But Gevin's point about that is dead on, like who'd

2291
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 6: you miss? Yeah, who'd you miss?

2292
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2293
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 6: Right, there's some good players. I'm sure you know, I'm

2294
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,640
Speaker 6: sure Mason Graham is going to be a good, solid player, Like,

2295
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 6: I don't.

2296
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 4: Think the only one that you could I don't.

2297
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily look at that as like a difference

2298
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 6: making kind of player McMillan would have would have made.

2299
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 1: Now, knowing what we know about Drake, that's a that's

2300
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: a fit.

2301
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I think that, you know, it comes

2302
01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 4: back to now you're going to be picking let's say

2303
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 4: thirty second in the draft. It's already a hollow position

2304
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 4: as it is, so you're not going to be You're

2305
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 4: not going to draft the starting left tackle at at

2306
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 4: thirty two that's going to be better than Will Campbell?

2307
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 4: Not not most likely not? So are you going?

2308
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 6: I have heard good things about the tackle class there?

2309
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 4: Are you going free agency? Are you going draft?

2310
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 3: You know?

2311
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 4: Like, how are you going to find a left tackle?

2312
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 4: That's because I think that Will Campbell has been serviceable. Yeah,

2313
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 4: when he goes up in competition against two of the

2314
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 4: best rushers in the entire league, he got beat badly.

2315
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 4: But he's been serviceable in all the other games this

2316
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 4: season that he's played in. So how do you do

2317
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 4: better than that? I'm not saying you can't.

2318
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying how And to Friend's point, he can

2319
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: improve too, Like you know, I mean, he'll he's always

2320
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: going to be the size that he is. And like

2321
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: having watched him now for whatever it is, in nineteen

2322
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: games or eight whenever, then he was out like he's

2323
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 1: not a big guy. He's going to learn that. He's

2324
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 1: going to learn the tricks of the trade. Yeah, I

2325
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: think he's going to get especially for a guy who's

2326
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: athletic like him, and you know he'll be he'll get bad.

2327
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what kind of team. But it's just ultimately,

2328
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: he's always going to kind of be that size and

2329
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: you can you can get by with it, but I

2330
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: don't want to just blanket move him. I know this

2331
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: isn't the year to say we need an edge, and

2332
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: we also got to find a left tackle like that.

2333
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we know how heart of this to get

2334
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: that position. So I don't know if they can thread

2335
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:19,680
Speaker 1: the needle on it.

2336
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 3: Cody writes in maybe I'm an eternal pessimist, but does

2337
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 3: this seem eerily similar to Yeah, the Broncos defense is

2338
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 3: really good, but no way brock Osweiler or the ghost

2339
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 3: of Peyton Manning can win this game ten years later.

2340
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:32,639
Speaker 1: It's on my mind.

2341
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, Yeah, I mean I just think it's a

2342
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 6: whole different situation. First of all, Peyton Manning. Can we

2343
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 6: not like the ghost of Peyton Manning the ghost of

2344
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 6: a Hall of Fame player, Like I get it, he was,

2345
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 6: you know, on his last legs and whatever brock Osweiler

2346
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 6: was there was their quarterback at the time. Like if

2347
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,680
Speaker 6: even if this happened three weeks ago, I would have

2348
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 6: a whole different mindset with Jared Stidham. You know, everybody

2349
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 6: likes to bring out Nick Foles and Jeff Hostel where

2350
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,640
Speaker 6: those guys were playing, they had to. They replaced the

2351
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:09,799
Speaker 6: starting quarterback and at least got a couple of games

2352
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,719
Speaker 6: in and by the way, in both cases bad games

2353
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 6: when they initially went in to replace him, because Foles

2354
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,799
Speaker 6: played the Foles played one good game and then a

2355
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 6: really bad one.

2356
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 4: He played the NFC Championship game against Minnesota, right.

2357
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm talking about in the regular season. They

2358
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 6: played the last two or three games of the regular seasons,

2359
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 6: both Hostetler and Foles. Yeah, so by the time they

2360
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 6: got to the championship game levels they had had five

2361
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 6: or six game You know, that's a big difference. Yeah,

2362
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,919
Speaker 6: this guy hasn't started a game in a long long time.

2363
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 4: Nick Fole, I don't know anything about the nineteen ninety

2364
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 4: Giants offense. I'm sure you could enlighten me, Paul, but

2365
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 4: that Eagles offense in seventeen was loaded. I mean they

2366
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 4: had an offensive first game. He played really, really well.

2367
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 6: I actually looked at it a little bit.

2368
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 4: On Jeffrey was on the outside, agalar lg and the

2369
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 4: slot you know that was that was a good team

2370
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 4: like that, zach Ertz in his prime at tight end,

2371
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 4: and that offensive line was the best in that league.

2372
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 6: Height Jo, And I'm not telling you you can't win

2373
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 6: the game, because Fred's right. You can rally and do

2374
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff, and your defense can do

2375
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 6: what the the fifteen Broncos defense did and win the game.

2376
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 6: That's what it would take. Like that, I'm like Jeff hosteler,

2377
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 6: like went in and went nine for sixteen for ninety

2378
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 6: seven yards, you know, thirteen for twenty three for one

2379
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 6: hundred and ninety yards. That's how they won the games.

2380
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 6: Twelve for twenty three. By the way, I want to

2381
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 6: really point this one out, nineteen ninety twelve for twenty

2382
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 6: three for one hundred and twenty three yards in a

2383
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 6: touchdown and a thirteen to ten win over who the

2384
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 6: New England Patriots that went one in fifteen.

2385
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he didn't lose the games for.

2386
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 6: Him, So like, yes, I'm not telling you they can't

2387
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 6: win the game. I'm telling you I wouldn't expect like

2388
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 6: Nick Foles did in one of his games twenty four

2389
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 6: thirty eight for two thirty seven and four touchdowns. Yeah,

2390
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 6: if that happens, you're in trouble, right, But I wouldn't

2391
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 6: expect that. I would expect more of a hosteler kind

2392
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 6: of a you know, just stay out of the way,

2393
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 6: don't turn it over, let's play to the defense, let's

2394
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 6: do field position, and let's hopefully we don't need anything.

2395
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 6: And if it's close late, then maybe we can steal it.

2396
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 4: If they had a running game and if they were

2397
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 4: like built that way I would feel better, or if

2398
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 4: I was a Denver fan, I doubt that's what. Just

2399
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 4: digging into the Broncos over the last twelve hours, I'm like,

2400
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 4: they don't run the ball very well, and so like,

2401
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:38,759
Speaker 4: how are you going to take pressure off of Stidham

2402
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 4: in this game? And how you know, how are you

2403
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 4: going to expect him to not be He can't be

2404
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 4: the hero, Like you can't put it all the whole

2405
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 4: game on his shoulders. Other than the defense forcing five

2406
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 4: turnovers or like they did last week. It just doesn't

2407
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 4: feel like they have the type of offense.

2408
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 3: Exter in Santa Rosa, California says, I agree with Paul,

2409
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 3: there's literally no way we lose this game to Jared Stidham,

2410
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,799
Speaker 3: and he was correct and stating that the bear stink.

2411
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 3: It's always nice to get a double buy in the playoffs.

2412
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 3: With this week and next week off Patriots forty two

2413
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 3: thirteen Patriots verus Rams in the Super Bowl, we went

2414
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 3: our seventh thirty eight thirty five, that'd be awesome. I

2415
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 3: hope that's right.

2416
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 6: Just kind of just correct one thing. I didn't say

2417
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 6: the bear stink, Yeah.

2418
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 3: You kind of did.

2419
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 6: No, I did take walk is the word I think

2420
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 6: you used. I think the Patriots would be Chicago. I

2421
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 6: said they're not that good, and you took that to

2422
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,720
Speaker 6: mean that they weren't good, yeah, And I said, but

2423
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 6: like there was like yeah, there was an emphasis on that.

2424
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 6: Like I think, like to Evans point Seattle, right, you

2425
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 6: think Seattle is like up here, I think goes down here.

2426
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 1: They're not that good, correct.

2427
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 3: Like eighty five Bears are not that good.

2428
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm comparing them to like the Seahawks, not comparing them

2429
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: that good.

2430
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 6: Right, they're not carrying on rather than carrying We can

2431
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 6: get to that.

2432
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 4: Can I throw something out there in the last ten

2433
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 4: minutes of the show that I'm glad it's buried ten

2434
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 4: minutes left in the show. Drake May in the bad

2435
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 4: weather and like that, like it's not supposed to be

2436
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 4: like just to be nice that bad in Denver and

2437
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 4: then obviously the Super Bowls in Santa Clara, where I

2438
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be, you know, fine, totally chill with

2439
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 4: that environment. I don't want to like make this like

2440
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 4: a Drake May is bad and bad weather thing because

2441
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 4: I think and those conditions on Sunday, like I don't

2442
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 4: there are not a lot of quarterbacks that I think

2443
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 4: are gonna throw great when it's snowing like that, and

2444
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 4: you know, the weather was just not good for either team.

2445
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 4: Herbert struggled to throw the ball in the first game

2446
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 4: to Stroud struggled to throw the ball, you know, so

2447
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 4: like it's kind of like everybody kind of had a

2448
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 4: tough time.

2449
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:53,040
Speaker 3: With it, you know, from our perch in the press box,

2450
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 3: you know, we didn't see a lot of wind, the

2451
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 3: snow wasn't sticking. It was about thirty two degrees, so

2452
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 3: it wasn't frigid, but that kind of wet type of

2453
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 3: snow and thirty two that it gets to your bones,

2454
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It really soaks in, and

2455
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 3: maybe the ball was more slippery than we know. There

2456
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 3: was just a couple of times, I mean there are

2457
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 3: offered to play and then a heavy snow, like at

2458
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 3: twenty degrees, that's a dry snow, you know what I mean.

2459
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 3: There are two or three throws that he flat out

2460
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 3: miss but that happens every game, So I'll give it

2461
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,759
Speaker 3: to him on that. I thought there were a couple

2462
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 3: a handful of them where they just like I'm just

2463
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 3: so used to him just dropping these throws right in

2464
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 3: the bucket. You know, he had one on Kyle Williams

2465
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 3: down the left sideline. That was he had a step

2466
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 3: on Lassiter And I'm just so used to Drake may

2467
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 3: just putting that Now he put it right on booty.

2468
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 3: So you know that throw is cinematic like that throws gorgeous,

2469
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 3: but like the one of Kyle Williams, he's made it. Yeah,

2470
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 3: I kind of put a little bit of on Kyle

2471
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 3: Williams too. Yeah, but you know that that throw hits

2472
01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams and stride that might be a touchdown.

2473
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he did definitely had he had a step. We

2474
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 6: were saying it live like he's got him, He's got him.

2475
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 6: As the ball was coming down, was like, to me.

2476
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 1: This is just one of those things that's a little

2477
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 1: bit of a work in progress. And you know, he

2478
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 1: hasn't had an opportunity to play in weather like this,

2479
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's never played in a game like

2480
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 1: that on Sunday. So let's get to next year and

2481
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, see if I mean, they're winning games, so

2482
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 1: he's still getting confidence and experience from these games.

2483
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 3: Still. I'm I'm I'm a Will Campbell guy. Okay, Okay,

2484
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 3: I just get back to Will Campbell.

2485
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2486
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:32,679
Speaker 3: I don't know, uh, because I wasn't listening Bill. Bill's

2487
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 3: in Santa Monica.

2488
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 4: What's up?

2489
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 3: Bill?

2490
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 19: Hey guys.

2491
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 4: Sonny mccains so, oh dude.

2492
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 19: I was at Sonny Mclaims on Saturday. My brother called

2493
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 19: and said, get on, I'll give you miles. Get on

2494
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 19: a plane, flew up to Boston, then went to the game.

2495
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 10: Off.

2496
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 19: Oh nice, And then now I'm back in so I'm like, uh,

2497
01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 19: sleep depride, but very happy. So to kind of dumb

2498
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 19: questions about the beginning game and about the end of

2499
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,679
Speaker 19: the game. Was that point in the beginning of game

2500
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 19: where C. J. Stroud had made more completions to Patriots

2501
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 19: and Drake May?

2502
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 3: All right, what's the Is there a point in the

2503
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 3: game where Stroud had more completions than May?

2504
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2505
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 3: Maybe?

2506
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 6: Who Was there a point in the game where Stroud

2507
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 6: had thrown four picks and May it only had three completions?

2508
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 1: Possibly?

2509
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 6: I don't think so, but you know I wouldn't rule

2510
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 6: it out.

2511
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then the other one, like I said,

2512
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 19: these are trivial, Uh, Patriots last possession, right, it's third

2513
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 19: and forty thirteen right at whatever the Patriots forty five.

2514
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:44,680
Speaker 19: My buddy was like, they should have gone for it,

2515
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 19: which I think is crazy. But his argument is they

2516
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 19: weren't doing anything and we could they could run out

2517
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 19: the cloth where punted, and I just figured that would

2518
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 19: be you know, we got a couple of minutes, but

2519
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:57,679
Speaker 19: that would be a good argument if you guys could

2520
01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 19: get into.

2521
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 6: No, not really, I agree with you. Yeah, said go

2522
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 6: for it there, Like, you get a twelve point lead

2523
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 6: with two minutes left and you want to go for

2524
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 6: it on fourth and twelve, just punted it.

2525
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 1: Make them go eighty yards.

2526
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm want to make it most of his podcast,

2527
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 19: so you know, I think that's the podcast set arguments, right.

2528
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Now, if you want to question some fourth down decisions,

2529
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 6: I would question some of Damigo ryans is. You know

2530
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 6: in the game, I thought fourth and two when they

2531
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 6: kicked the field goal to make it twenty one thirteen

2532
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 6: fourth and two from the seven, I want to say,

2533
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 6: and then two egregious ones. Down twelve points in the

2534
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 6: fourth quarter, he punted twice on fourth down. The last

2535
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 6: one was completely inexcusable.

2536
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 4: I think he had more faith in this defense scoring,

2537
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 4: but at some point, there wasn't enough time to do it,

2538
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 4: even if his defense did exactly what he wanted them

2539
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 4: to do.

2540
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 6: You know, I think that's kind of why the Patriots

2541
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 6: had some success on that drivers because the defense is

2542
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 6: like you kidding me, like we're back out here again,

2543
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 6: like we got it. Like literally, they're not even trying

2544
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 6: to stop them. They're just trying to take the ball away.

2545
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 4: At that point, the fourth down, the fourth quarter drive

2546
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 4: the Patriots started at what like they're four or something

2547
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 4: like that. That was. That was some big boy running

2548
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 4: like that just at that point. I agree with that

2549
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 4: talk to you, but I also give a little love

2550
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 4: there who They ran it right behind Big Mike three

2551
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 4: or four times in a row, and he I love

2552
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 4: that he him and Morgan Moses opened up holes for

2553
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 4: mare Stevenson to get him off at the.

2554
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 3: Hole and try to stop it.

2555
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 20: That was.

2556
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: That's what that That.

2557
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 4: Is an example of when you need the run game.

2558
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 4: It's theo. I know what Paul's point is that they.

2559
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 6: Are, but I mean, that's what you want to shorten

2560
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 6: this game now and make sure that they don't have

2561
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 6: time to have two possessions, And they did exactly that.

2562
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 3: Tennessee what's up, Spencer, Spencer, you've been to ed Ley's.

2563
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 6: Spencer, Sir, having a hard time today?

2564
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2565
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 3: All right? Uh, Todd's in North Carolina.

2566
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Hey, Todd to will be there, he's always Yeah.

2567
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 3: Todd, Verizon down again? Come on, that's going on? Shoot?

2568
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 4: Come on now, Drake, all right, we don't think you

2569
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 4: need to worry.

2570
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:21,839
Speaker 3: Well, the phone line opened up and it's Kelly in Dallas.

2571
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 3: What's up, Kelly? Kelvin Turner, Kelvin Kelvin Sorry, yes, all right.

2572
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 21: Now I'm gonna tell y'all. I'm gonna come down there,

2573
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 21: and I want to help you. I want to I

2574
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 21: want to be the stitting head coach. But let me

2575
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 21: tell you something about Denver.

2576
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 4: Okay, ca co down.

2577
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 21: Cow Boys could never beat Denver, even on when Dever

2578
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 21: was bad. And Dens gonna try to jump ahead of y'all.

2579
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 21: But what y'all need to do y'all need to put

2580
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 21: pressure on demmer off face and defense and they line.

2581
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 10: You keep put.

2582
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 21: Pressure and let them not score. First, second and fourth quarter,

2583
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 21: y'all have to score.

2584
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 3: I like that. Shut them out three quarters. I like

2585
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 3: our chances.

2586
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 21: Yeah, yes, shut them out three three quarters and really

2587
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 21: shut them out on fourth fourth quarters because then it's

2588
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 21: a steaky team. How they beat U Buffalo that was unbelievable.

2589
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 21: Then we're trying to come back on you. You have

2590
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 21: to say the office down, the defense and the line,

2591
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 21: and then y'all had to put screens and blazes on

2592
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 21: them all fourth quarters.

2593
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, because I'm going to pass these You have

2594
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 3: this in writing, because we'll pass it along the podcast

2595
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 3: lost shutting the team.

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01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 21: Out, Mike, Mike, Mike Greble used to be with the

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01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 21: Tennessee Titans.

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01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 3: That's it.

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01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 21: Yeah, jel Fisher too. Jef Fisher took the Tennessee Titans

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01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 21: to the Super Bowl and they lost against a round

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01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 21: But I'm gonna tell you, Denver, the Rams you got

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01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 21: to do this to do Okay. Yeah, they would jump

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01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 21: ahead of you quickly.

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01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 4: It sounds like a blueprint to me.

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01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 3: Thanks for the call.

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01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 6: It's actually been the Patriots. They want to jump in

2607
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 6: stuff and coming back.

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01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 3: In Boston. What's up, Zach?

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01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 4: Don't let him score. I've seen Denver win that game

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01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 4: twelve times this year.

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01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 3: Zach Zack in Boston?

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01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 10: Hey, how you doing all right? Hey?

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01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 9: Question for you guys.

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01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 2: Obviously, Drake had a couple of fumbles and how much

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01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:37,839
Speaker 2: do you put.

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01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 9: On that on Will Campbell in the line.

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01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 12: And then also, do you really think Will Campbell is

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01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 12: one hundred percent or do you think he's.

2619
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 19: Just muscling it through the playoffs?

2620
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 2: Move over the blow where he's done a really good job.

2621
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 11: For the time he did start.

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01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, one one was a botch play that

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01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 3: he dove and got it punched out. That's on him.

2624
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 3: And the second one the line you know, collapsed but

2625
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 3: you just can't the ball there.

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01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say two and two. I think that

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01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 4: the one where Will Campbell had uh yeah, chip help,

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01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 4: like I kind of split the baby there a little bit,

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01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 4: like you your internal clock's got to start ticket like

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01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 4: you know, the one that Will Anderson blew by Will Campbell,

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01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 4: That one is not so I would say like two

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01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 4: and a half PFF had it at at two, you know,

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01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 4: the one backed up and then the one the punch

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01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 4: out on the scramble. I think the one with the

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01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 4: chip help like you gotta one Mississippi two Mississippi. Like

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01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 4: at some point the ball's got to come out when

2637
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 4: you know who you're going up against and you're kind

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01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 4: of managing It's.

2639
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 3: Last call Brandon's and Syracuse. What's up? Brandon, Hey, guys.

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01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 22: How are we doing today?

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01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 4: Good?

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01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 11: Very good?

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01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm.

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01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 22: From well, from Camden, New York, but I work I

2645
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 22: work out of Syracuse, and I'll tell you what, being

2646
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 22: a Patriots span surrounded by a bunch of Bills fans

2647
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 22: is probably the greatest moment of my life right now. Uh.

2648
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 22: I'm twenty six right now, So I've been I've been

2649
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 22: dealing with the Patriots, had a great run for my

2650
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 22: whole life. But uh, I just wanted to leave you

2651
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 22: guys off with one couple a couple of things here

2652
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 22: with the offensive line, I feel very confident about the

2653
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:18,960
Speaker 22: right side. We're really great. I'm not gonna lie. Jared

2654
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 22: Wilson and Will Campbell have got me on my toes

2655
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 22: the past couple of games, but I still have a

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02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 22: lot of confidence in them, and I think that Will

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02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 22: Campbell can can bounce back. And Drake Maye one hundred

2658
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 22: percent confident. I think I think he can bounce back.

2659
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 22: He doesn't let much break him or anything like that.

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02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:36,080
Speaker 9: But go Pats.

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02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 3: I love your guys, so so Brandon. With all the

2662
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 3: Bills fans up there, you know, how are their fingers

2663
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 3: because that window really close shut really hard.

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02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, they're they're no, they're sore there. Yeah, listen,

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02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 22: I delivered with Tarvana and uh, about everybody that I

2666
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 22: delivered to is a is a Bills fan, and I'm

2667
02:00:57,520 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 22: making know him that I'm a Pats fan. So I

2668
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 22: get insights from them all the time. So it's it's great.

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02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 22: It's been great. The past couple of weeks, they've been

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02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 22: they've been very sore, you know, sore.

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02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I love to hear that. Thanks, Thanks Brandon, all Right,

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02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 3: you okay, that's gonna be it. We're on to Wednesday,

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02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 3: Catch twenty two tomorrow tomorrow with ten with Barth bart

2674
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 3: when I always ask.

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02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 4: Very excited, Yeah, he wants to go to Denver and uh,

2676
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:30,600
Speaker 4: and I told him. I was like, let's let's get

2677
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:31,520
Speaker 4: you to the super Bowl?

2678
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:32,839
Speaker 3: Is he going? Is he traveling?

2679
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 4: On Sunday the press box, he came up to me

2680
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 4: after the game and it was giving me his his

2681
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:41,880
Speaker 4: pitch to go and send him to Denver.

2682
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, why are you pitching this tonight?

2683
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 3: Like he can bring a dog on a plane that's

2684
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 3: like a store away.

2685
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 4: No, not a like can you.

2686
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 3: Claim him as a therapy person and like him.

2687
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 4: Is more a question for you than it is for me.

2688
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 3: If you feel even need them, we can make accommodations,

2689
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 3: you know, like what you're.

2690
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:04,640
Speaker 1: Saying it is.

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02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:07,400
Speaker 4: It is a long flight, so like you know, maybe

2692
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 4: I need like this emotional support animateally Yeah yeah yeah yeah,

2693
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 4: not Atlas though, can't bring him.

2694
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 3: Emotionalless him and e p A. We'll save a seat

2695
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 3: for EPA.

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02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:18,400
Speaker 4: That's gonna be my next dog. Yeah yeah, all right,

2697
02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 4: we'll see you tomorrow. Hey, this is Alex.

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02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:24,760
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2699
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:27,160
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2700
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:29,400
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02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 4: Also, make sure you follow.

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02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,280
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2703
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,920
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Speaker 4: That's a lot