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Speaker 1: absolutely spectacular day. It's a Monday, and we're excited to

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Speaker 1: We got an NBA game tonight. Will not be the

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Speaker 1: last NBA game of the year, Hey, really important. Won't

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Speaker 1: getting later early, getting later early, and the Pacers they

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Speaker 1: ready for Game five as the As the show rolls on,

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Speaker 1: NBA trade stuff. Desmond Bain has been traded, Raphael Dever's

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Speaker 1: been traded. The US Open had uh it was complete

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Speaker 1: good show, should be a very interesting show. Before we

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Speaker 1: get to tonight's NBA, let's talk about yesterday's WNB or

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Speaker 1: or Saturday's WNBA. So Caitlin Clark had well, look, she

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Speaker 1: had herself a good game, but more than anything, had

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Speaker 1: just this thirty eight seconds of pure basketball ecstasy right

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Speaker 1: where she's coming down hitting logo three after logo three,

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Speaker 1: what the American sports viewer thinks of the WNBA without

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark. Keep in mind that in her first game

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Speaker 2: She was not perfect.

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Speaker 1: She was a plus five. Her team won by was

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Speaker 1: it fourteen points? I think fourteen points? But it sparked

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Speaker 1: a bigger conversation because the ratings were less than half

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Speaker 1: of what they are with her once she was out.

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Speaker 1: Here's Caitlin Clark talking about that thirty eight seconds where

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Speaker 3: I took one in transition. That's kind of like where

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Speaker 3: to see the ball go through the hoop. And then

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Speaker 3: I came down and shot another one. Then I came

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Speaker 1: Here's her head coach four point guardner and writes Stephanie

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Speaker 4: Well, don't we always expect that kind of game from Caitlin.

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Speaker 4: I knew her adrenaline was going to be high to start.

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Speaker 4: I mean, she's been itching to get back out there.

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Speaker 4: She carried us in the first half, and then everybody

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Speaker 2: And that's what she does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is what she does. That is what she does. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So there's a woman named Rachel Demita. Rachel, I believe

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Speaker 1: she's a former basketball player. She's like an influencer. She

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Speaker 1: She had a podcast. She has a podcast, and I

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Speaker 5: I hope you guys don't mind. But the news was

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of a new one to me.

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Speaker 1: I had anybody heard about that previously. I mean, usually

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Speaker 1: That's that's what That's what people, anybody I think reasonably

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Speaker 1: that's the reason the ratings are down. No, we like

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Speaker 1: The ratings that are left, that's your classic WNBA core

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Speaker 1: and has grown in incremental pieces over time. But the

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Speaker 1: fifty percent that you lost, that's the Caitlin Clark effect.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 1: Stop and until you just go okay, start there, until

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Speaker 1: you start at that very point where you realize, Okay,

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Speaker 1: fifty percent of the people are only watching to see

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Speaker 1: basically what she did Saturday, then you can properly market

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Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating. I'm a basketball guy. I played high

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how many times you have to

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Speaker 1: People only care about Caitlin and the thing that I

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Speaker 1: And I would also tell you that I think the

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Speaker 2: I don't care about the constant scrutiny. It's just a

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Speaker 1: And she went from playing college ball to playing the

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Speaker 1: it fits a little bit more of the WNBA model.

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Speaker 1: Last year she was square peg, round hole. This year

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Speaker 1: it's round, round peg, round hole, and she's different, She's dominant.

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Speaker 1: She's taken another step. The most improving you make in

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Speaker 2: Year, because you don't know what you don't know.

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Speaker 1: You don't know how to train, you don't know how

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Speaker 1: And then in year two, you know all these things,

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Speaker 1: they become easier and then you become the better because

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Speaker 1: of it. I mean this when I say this, Like

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark was one of those she had other worldly

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Speaker 1: talent and she had what the kids call aura last year,

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Speaker 1: and there was some substance, but it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of she's going to be great. She's not great yet,

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Speaker 1: but she's going to be great now. She's great now,

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Speaker 1: she's great shooting percentages, confidence, knowledge of where to get

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Speaker 1: not get herself in a foul trouble, how to communicate

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Speaker 1: with teammates, and honestly for the fever, what coach to

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Speaker 1: put around her, with players to put around her. It's

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Speaker 1: all going to be better in year two because you're one.

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Speaker 1: You just don't know what you don't know? You know,

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Speaker 1: all right, Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: No, that's okay.

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to just add something in them because

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Speaker 7: I'm curious on your thoughts about this. I think it

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Speaker 7: was the most important WNBA game she's played in her career.

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Speaker 7: And the reason I say that is a lot of

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Speaker 7: what you said is this leap from year one to

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Speaker 7: leap to year two in what she's done in the

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Speaker 7: You now know what you didn't know previously, and it

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Speaker 7: was one of the questions that I had about the

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Speaker 6: Would this.

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Speaker 7: Rise continue, would would the league be able to catch

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Speaker 7: up at all? And obviously they haven't, but to be

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Speaker 7: able to come in make a viral moment in a

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Speaker 7: who were unbeaten to that point. Like, there will be

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Speaker 7: games later on in her career that she plays and

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Speaker 7: playoff games that will be more important, But I think

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Speaker 7: to this point this was the most important game that

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I'm okay with that most important in WNBA career.

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Speaker 1: Like it sounds a little strong when it comes out

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Speaker 1: track it and you're like, I'm up, I'll buy that.

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Speaker 2: I'll buy that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there was a little bit when

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Speaker 1: she came when they came off the Olympic break too.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was But I don't know if there

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Speaker 1: was one individual game that was as big as this, right,

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Speaker 1: and then again, like if you're a if you're a hater,

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Speaker 1: a naysayer, and she doesn't play well or she doesn't

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Speaker 1: play after going to several of the Pacers' finals games,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, well she's good enough to go

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Speaker 2: And blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think when I initially heard you say that,

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Speaker 1: it sounded like hyperbole, and then when you supported it,

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Speaker 1: I started to think about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong, and.

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Speaker 6: There will be bigger games. But yeah, right, you're.

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Speaker 1: Just talking to this point up up until this point, Sammy,

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Speaker 1: what'd you think. I know you're you're a kind of

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Speaker 1: resident Caitlin Clark beat reporter.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I mean this. There will be bigger games,

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Speaker 8: but this one was huge because remember they lost the

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Speaker 8: Liberty at home by two, and then then she had

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Speaker 8: to exit for several games because of her injury. So

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Speaker 8: she comes back the Liberty are still undefeated and then

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Speaker 8: they end up winning by fourteen, and she just puts

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Speaker 8: on this amazing first half show. It was coming back

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Speaker 8: from injury. It's spot as good of a game to

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Speaker 8: play that you could hope for.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Stug Gottlieb Show, this is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fifty two year old white mail. It's a Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 1: Okay, restrict your plate racing in NASCAR? Now, Yes, Look

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Speaker 1: to the to the fan, they talked about restrictor plate racing.

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Speaker 9: to talk about my Dodgers on Saturday night. Saturday Night

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Speaker 9: the Dodgers, Bob Nightingale says the Dodgers don't plan on

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Speaker 9: having show Otani make his twenty five pitching debut until

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Speaker 9: after the All Star break, regardless of how well he's progressing.

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Speaker 9: News late last night, shoe heo Tani will be starting tonight,

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Speaker 9: So you nailed it again, Bob Nightingale. Thank you. And

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Speaker 9: by the way, just a quick note, Will Smith should

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Speaker 9: get more votes than he's going to get for the

443
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Speaker 9: MVP and National League and it has to do a

444
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Speaker 9: show Helo Tani, show, Halo Tani. He is a guy

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Speaker 9: that hogs the DH spot. There is no way around that.

446
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Speaker 9: He has to be the DH every night, so we

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Speaker 9: can't give Will Smith any breaks. The cool thing about

448
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Speaker 9: the DH of the National League now is that the

449
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Speaker 9: catchers could give it breaks, and good hitting catchers col DH.

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Speaker 9: Will Smith is behind the plate four out of five

451
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Speaker 9: nights a week, and he's one of our most productive hitters.

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Speaker 9: And Shohey being able to pitch and maybe place some

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Speaker 9: outfield now might give Will Smith a break behind the plate.

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Speaker 9: So all good news in Dodger Land.

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Speaker 2: Uh okay, I was him, What do you got.

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Speaker 8: Well, Jason, I don't think you should make assumptions. You

457
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Speaker 8: shouldn't make assumptions about me about me because my love

458
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Speaker 8: of the weekend is Angel Reese recording her first triple double.

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Speaker 8: Yeah dude up phrase Reese triple double, eleven points, eleven assists,

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Speaker 8: personal record and thirteen me bounds and guys, she's the

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Speaker 8: second youngest player of all time, second youngest player of

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Speaker 8: all time recorded triple double.

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Speaker 6: Only to some other person, Why do you love it?

464
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Speaker 6: You said you love it? Why do you love it?

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Speaker 8: I was just trying to avoid the lowest hanging fruit

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Speaker 8: out there. Kind a guy put you, guys on a

467
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Speaker 8: little bit, so you don't love it. It's a different kind

468
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Speaker 8: of It's just a goof it's a goof love. I'm

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Speaker 8: trying to I'm trying to avoid talking about Kaitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 6: You just.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you like, like like Sam, you just.

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Speaker 6: Assumed I'd take that as my love and you and

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Speaker 6: Jason you say.

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Speaker 1: It for me, Sam, let me speak for Jason and

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Speaker 1: for Dan. Okay, And if you guys disagree with me,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. The the issue is sometimes you throw things

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Speaker 1: in or you do the ands when it's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: the time and the place. This is the time and

479
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Speaker 1: the place where you can actually say, hey, I loved

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark's first ever triple double and here's why, and

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Speaker 1: expound upon that.

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Speaker 2: We're actually offering that up.

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Speaker 8: You mean, Angel Reese, Yeah, no, just trying to goof around.

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Speaker 8: This is a joke, Yes, of course, Kaitlyn Clark was awesome.

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Speaker 8: It's everything we hope for. We covered that thoroughly an

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Speaker 8: hour one. Just give me a little little, shy little

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Speaker 8: level of flowers to Hazel Reese.

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Speaker 6: Thirteen me bounds eleven as sists eleven points.

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Speaker 1: You know she has as as I heard Dan say,

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Speaker 1: she has trademarked the me bounds thing. What's interesting is

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Speaker 1: they are actually me bounds because they're correcting her own shot. Missus,

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Speaker 1: thus a me bound. Let's get to what we hated

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Speaker 1: from the weekend. Change that music. Our resident hater is

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Speaker 1: none other than Dan Oh. Then, sorry, Chason Stewart, Chase,

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Speaker 1: do what again.

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Speaker 9: I'm not going to change local for this. I'm not

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Speaker 9: going to change locyle. Let's stay at Dodger Stadium. Something

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Speaker 9: very disturbing happened yesterday. I don't know if either any

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Speaker 9: of you are familiar with the musical artist Nesa. I

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Speaker 9: was not before yesterday, and I regret that I am

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Speaker 9: aware of her today. Uh Nesa sparked quite the controversy locally.

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Speaker 9: Yesterday I'll set this up. Nesa was asked to sing

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Speaker 9: the national anthem by the Dodgers. We all know what

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Speaker 9: that goes. Into that, right, You're going to be able

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Speaker 9: to sing the national anthem at Dodger Stadium for historical

506
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Speaker 9: Francis franchise, in front of potential agents, people that could

507
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Speaker 9: could discover you as talent. Singing the national anthem at

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Speaker 9: Dodger Stadium is different than singing the national anthem in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 9: and and that's I'm not trying to throw any stones

510
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Speaker 9: at Milwaukee Nesa. I guess it got back to the

511
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Speaker 9: Dodgers that Nesa planned to sing the national anthem in

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Speaker 9: Spanish to support the migrants uh in the wake of

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Speaker 9: the protests from last week. Nesa was approached by a

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Speaker 9: Dodger representative before the game and it went like this.

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Speaker 7: I'm not.

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Speaker 9: So that was a Dodger representative telling Neza that you're

517
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Speaker 9: gonna go ahead and sing the song in English because

518
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Speaker 9: everybody sings it in English, because nobody I've ever known

519
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Speaker 9: or heard of has ever heard it in Spanish, because

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Speaker 9: when you go to an American sports game, you hear

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Speaker 9: the national anthem in English. So we're gonna go ahead

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Speaker 9: and do that, okay. Neza agrees to do it, and

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Speaker 9: then proceeds to go on the field and sing the

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Speaker 9: national anthem in Spanish, and then she decided to go

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Speaker 9: on social media after she did that.

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Speaker 11: All right, bear with me because I'm still I'm very

527
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Speaker 11: shooking out and emotional. Names Anyways, I just got home

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Speaker 11: from singing the national anthem in Spanish at the Dodgers game,

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Speaker 11: and it is the official Star Spangle banner in Spanish.

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Speaker 11: You can google it, so I'll just read it you

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Speaker 11: really quick. But it was officially commissioned in nineteen forty

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Speaker 11: five by the US State Department as a part of

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Speaker 11: President Franklin Roosevelt's Good Neighbor policy to foster a a

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Speaker 11: relationship with Latin America. Because of this, I didn't think

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Speaker 11: I would be met with any sort of like no,

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Speaker 11: especially because we're in LA and with everything happening, and

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Speaker 11: I've sang the national anthem many times in my life,

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Speaker 11: but there was today, out of all days, I could not.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just.

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Speaker 11: Could not believe when she walked in and told me no.

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Speaker 5: But I just felt like I needed to do it.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So if you're tracking this, Nela was told to

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Speaker 9: wellhead and sing it in English. She went on the

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Speaker 9: field sing it in Spanish, and then on her social media.

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Speaker 9: She made the Dodgers look like jerks by showing the

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Speaker 9: video of the representative telling her not to do it,

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Speaker 9: and by saying that the Dodgers told her no. She

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Speaker 9: couldn't believe they were told no. This goes back to

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Speaker 9: last week and that the Dodgers have not said anything

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Speaker 9: publicly about the protests. This is a very polarizing political

552
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Speaker 9: topic that the Dodgers want nothing to do with, and

553
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 9: Nesa just rope them into having to answer to this.

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Speaker 9: I think that was a crappy thing to do. I

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Speaker 9: think that she exposed herself for being a narcissist gen zer,

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Speaker 9: and now the Dodgers have to respond to something that

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Speaker 9: they've been trying to stay clear of. In the wake

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Speaker 9: of the George Floyd riots in twenty twenty, there were

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Speaker 9: corporations and teams taking a political stance. I think Atlanta

560
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 9: was taking the All Star Game was taken away from them.

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Speaker 9: It was shocking that so many people were taking what

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Speaker 9: they thought was the politically correct stance at the time.

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Speaker 9: Corporations and teams are not doing that anymore. There's no

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Speaker 9: reason for the Dodgers to take a stant here. They

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Speaker 9: don't want to alienate half of their fan base, and

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Speaker 9: I think that was I just hated what she did there.

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Speaker 9: She made it about her, and now she's drawn a

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Speaker 9: corporation into something that they don't belong in.

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Speaker 1: I think part of the problem Chase do, if we're

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Speaker 1: being completely honest, is I know you'd love I don't

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Speaker 1: think what you're saying is wrong. I do think that

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Speaker 1: there's a search for being being How can I be

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Speaker 1: a victim?

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Speaker 2: Right? Victimhood?

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Speaker 1: But but I I also think, and very strongly, I

576
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Speaker 1: don't think a younger generation truly understands what is a

577
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Speaker 1: right and what is a privilege.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like, you have.

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Speaker 1: The right to speak your mind, but when you're singing

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Speaker 1: the national anthem, that is a privilege offered to you

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Speaker 1: by the LA Dodgers. And like it's got to be

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Speaker 1: really hard for the Dodgers because what percentage of the

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Speaker 1: fan base do you think is Hispanic.

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Speaker 6: Considerate?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 12: So it's a but again, you just can't if it's

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Speaker 12: it's paralyzing for the Dodgers, like we we can't take

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Speaker 12: a side in this thing, and then you represent us

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Speaker 12: by singing the national anthem.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 1: This is a classic gen Z moment where she made

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Speaker 1: herself into a victim when she she received a privilege

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Speaker 1: of singing the national anthem and she chose to make

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Speaker 1: a political stunt of it and make herself into a victim.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm with you on most parts.

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Speaker 8: She probably did score a lot of new fans, so

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Speaker 8: I would imagine, I mean, she took an opportunity. There's

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Speaker 8: an opportunity there to protest, and she did.

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Speaker 1: They told me I can't come back, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: we never said that.

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Speaker 8: And that's I think that's she made this decision herself.

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Speaker 8: I think that's that's good from the Dodgers to say that, say,

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Speaker 8: we never said that. We just wish you hadn't done that.

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Speaker 8: But like to like ban her would just make things

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Speaker 8: even worse.

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Speaker 13: I think.

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Speaker 8: So she took an opportunity. Uh, you know, tempers are

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Speaker 8: flaring right now around here. Things are hot, heads are hot,

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Speaker 8: understand me.

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Speaker 2: So Dan Byer, what do you got, boy?

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Speaker 7: My hate's really is going to bail in comparison to

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Speaker 7: the last five minutes of this, uh of this program,

613
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Speaker 7: because I just really got annoyed with Adam Schefter tweeting

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Speaker 7: about the US Open and it's it's nothing, it's nothing

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Speaker 7: personal about Schefter. It's personal about these insiders who have

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Speaker 7: millions upon millions of followers on their Twitter handle for

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Speaker 7: a specific reason, and it's not because we find them entertaining.

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Speaker 7: It's because they provide news that we want to know.

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Speaker 7: And it's it's the same for Adam Schefter as it

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Speaker 7: is for Ian Rappoboard, as it is for shams and

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Speaker 7: just these one off like they're just they're just sent

622
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Speaker 7: for like engagement, just to rack up numbers because they

623
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Speaker 7: can by tweeting like JJ Spawn's winning putt and like

624
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Speaker 7: what a putt? And I just feel that you give

625
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Speaker 7: up your Twitter rights to tweet anything but NFL information

626
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Speaker 7: when you have that many And it is just this

627
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 7: jump on a bandwagon, and it's done in tennis, it's

628
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 7: done in horse racing. It's these moments that they then

629
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 7: try to bandwagon and piggyback off of just for their

630
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 7: own good. And it's it's not meant to be personal,

631
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Speaker 7: and I think I probably went really personal with some insiders,

632
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Speaker 7: but it just got annoying that when JJ spawn wins,

633
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Speaker 7: I get an alert on my phone and it's Adam

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Speaker 7: Schefter tweeting what a pot I And he's not the

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Speaker 7: only one, but yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an insider, and I you know, I think

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Speaker 1: I twitted what a finish or something that was.

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00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm not. I don't have alerts on for you,

639
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 7: and people want to know your sports opinions. They don't't

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00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 7: care about anything Adam Schefter has to say unless it's

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Speaker 7: about the National Football League.

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Speaker 6: That is it.

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Speaker 7: That is the reason why he's got ten million followers,

644
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 7: not because Adam Schefter's funny or Adam Schefter has great

645
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 7: opinions on the NBA. That's where his audience is. And

646
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 7: sure there's a huge amount of crossover with his audience

647
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 7: being sports fans, but I just it, I don't know.

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00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 7: It's I think it's the Johnny cum Lately sort of thing.

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00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 7: It's the you know, tweet about you know what, tweet

650
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 7: about the Travelers Championship on Saturday, and then I can

651
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 7: maybe pass your US Open coming up this weekend. Tell

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00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 7: me something that goes on Saturday, and then I'll start

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Speaker 7: to maybe follow you and take it as more legitimate.

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Speaker 6: So Dan, in other words, you're saying, stay in your

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Speaker 6: lane a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, yes, because that lane is built for him

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Speaker 7: only for the NFL.

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Speaker 6: By the way.

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Speaker 7: There's a no hitter going on in the College World

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Speaker 7: Series gage Wood, what a name? No hitter through eight

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Speaker 7: lost a perfect game by beating a Murray State Racer

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Speaker 7: in the bottom of the eighth inning.

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Speaker 6: But no hitter going on in Omaha. But my hate

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Speaker 6: was the schefter.

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Speaker 1: Tweets okay uh to jay Stu do we get I mean, Sam,

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Speaker 1: do we get your hate?

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Speaker 6: Not yet?

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Speaker 8: I'll make it quick here. You know, Listen, most people

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Speaker 8: don't like Mondays. They loathe Mondays. I'm feeling like gar

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Speaker 8: Field today. I hate Mondays early, hate this Monday. I

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Speaker 8: might live on the noisiest could de sack that's ever existed.

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Speaker 8: Dan Dan is also a Cul de Sac resider, but

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Speaker 8: mine's like mostly apartment buildings, and they've been like renovating

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Speaker 8: this one apartment building across the cul de Sac for

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Speaker 8: what's probably going on a year now. There's nothing worse

676
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Speaker 8: than just getting really low quality sleep. Maybe I need

677
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Speaker 8: to sleep number bed Doug, but getting low quality sleep.

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Speaker 8: And then at like six fifteen in the morning, you

679
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Speaker 8: start hearing construction starting and you're just waking up and

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Speaker 8: you're like dah, and then you know it's super hot

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Speaker 8: out already it's gonna be hot today and it was

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Speaker 8: hot walking in.

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Speaker 6: So I'm just over this Monday. I'm over it. I'm

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Speaker 6: over it. Doug, I'm Garfield in the case of the Mondays, Okay, Grumpy.

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Speaker 1: I have I have just I have just one and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna i I'm gonna borrow it from jay Stuh. Okay,

687
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Speaker 1: because Jay Stu's like, have you seen this Rop Devers story?

688
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Speaker 1: And like fill me in? So he's gonna show me in.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, So I printed out a

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Speaker 1: couple stories to start reading it. So let's get this straight.

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Speaker 1: Raphael Devers who is with the Red Sox, right, huge deal,

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Speaker 1: and he gets traded over the weekend to the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco Giants.

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Speaker 2: So Devers only wanted a.

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Speaker 1: DH, right, That's all he want to do is DH

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Speaker 1: and because of injury, they asked him play first base.

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Speaker 1: He's like nah nah. He gets traded to the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco Giants and when asked about what position he'll play,

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Speaker 1: his response was wherever I'm needed, as long as we

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Speaker 1: want to win.

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Speaker 2: I just want to win, right. So you're with the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Great organization page it offered, I mean the contract's over

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Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars for over a decade, and when

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Speaker 1: asked to switch positions, the answer was no to another franchise,

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, now you're open to playing

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Speaker 1: wherever because you just want to win. Did the Red

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Speaker 1: Sox do you so wrong when they offered you that

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Speaker 1: gigantic contract? And I love this analogy. It's the you know,

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Speaker 1: anyone who's ever been in a relationship, and there's just

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Speaker 1: things that you just like, I don't do that in

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Speaker 1: this relationship, like they don't do it, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden they're in a different relationship. For example,

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Speaker 1: you could have a woman who's like, I don't drink coffee.

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Speaker 1: I hate coffee. I don't like the smell. It makes

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Speaker 1: a mess, it's everywhere. I just got into it, right,

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Speaker 1: And then you know you're out and about. You got

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Speaker 1: your new girl. She's got her new guy, and you

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Speaker 1: see him out and they're at a coffee shop and

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Speaker 1: what is she ordering but coffee?

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Speaker 2: Why? Wow? You know he's into it. So I kind

722
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Speaker 2: of got into it. Same thing with rock.

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Speaker 1: Field Devers, right, like, you won't play first base for

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox, but you'll play anywhere for the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco Giants.

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Speaker 2: I hate that. I hate that.

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Speaker 1: So thank you Jay stew for telling them about that story.

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Speaker 1: And I can't stand that mentality of rock Field Evers

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Speaker 1: and that is love it hate.

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Speaker 10: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 10: the nation yet. Catch all of our shows at Fox

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Speaker 10: Sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: So the Pacers were up big and Oklahoma City comes

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Speaker 1: back and wins the game. Late in the game, there's

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Speaker 1: several calls at first half. I thought some calls went

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Speaker 1: against the Indiana Pacers despite the fact they were at home.

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Speaker 1: Late in the game, Shake Gildess Alexander makes it beautiful

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Speaker 1: fade away in the left baseline and if you watch

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Speaker 1: the replay right, looks like he pushed off, looks like

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Speaker 1: he traveled. There was no call. Of course, Scott Foster's

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Speaker 1: on the game. Everybody calls Scott Foster the extender, extender,

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Speaker 1: and he's one of the few NBA officials who everybody

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Speaker 1: knows his name. He's got a lot of heat, especially

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Speaker 1: on social media, because Oklahoma City won because they were

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Speaker 1: a couple of missed calls Here's he's HER's head coach

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Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle on Scott Foster, I think.

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Speaker 14: It's awful what some of the things I've seen about

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Speaker 14: about the officiating and Scott Foster in particular. I know

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Speaker 14: Scott Foster for thirty years. He's a great official. He's

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Speaker 14: done a great job in his playoffs. We've had him

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Speaker 14: a lot of times. And the ridiculous scrutiny that's being

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Speaker 14: thrown out there is terrible and unfair and unjust and stupid.

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Speaker 1: Agree, I agree, and and I just I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to make it a habit of calling out people in

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Speaker 1: the media who I'm friends with or friendly with, but

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Speaker 1: I think those are the people that it looks the

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Speaker 1: worst for.

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Speaker 2: It just does you know, It's like.

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Speaker 1: In order for that level of conspiracy to take place,

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Speaker 1: too many people would have to know, and all it

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Speaker 1: takes is one person, one person to know what they're

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Speaker 1: not supposed to know, and the entire league is cooked.

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Speaker 1: So no, there is no grand conspiracy. There is no

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Speaker 1: way of seting. You know's not some way which Adam

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Speaker 1: Silver guarantees that it will go a certain number of games.

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Speaker 1: That simply is not true. And anyone who says otherwise

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Speaker 1: is just making up things because it's really easy to

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Speaker 1: make up things in the media and in social media

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Speaker 1: these days, way easier. It's harder to hide, easier to

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Speaker 1: make things up. So it doesn't mean that he's a

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Speaker 1: perfect official. It doesn't mean it was a perfectly officiated game.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Ben Mathen, who had an unbelievable game

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Speaker 1: in Game three, he missed too gigant take free throws.

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Speaker 1: I think he missed three or four down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: I know he missed two gigantic free throws under two

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Speaker 1: minutes to go. So what are we actually doing here?

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Speaker 1: We're acting like Scott Foster is the reason that that

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City won the game. Pacers misshots, missed free throws

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Speaker 1: and couldn't and when they had a lead, they couldn't

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Speaker 1: keep their foot on the throat of the Oklahoma City thunder.

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Speaker 1: That's the story. And this is somebody who has no

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Speaker 1: I don't even have to support, have no dog in

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Speaker 1: the fight. Watch basketball, no basketball. Didn't like a couple

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Speaker 1: of no calls. But I'm not gonna sit there and

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Speaker 1: go they were cheating calls. That's bull for people who

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Speaker 1: say it, especially people who work in the media. But

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Speaker 1: this is also just another reason why you can't pay

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Speaker 1: attention to social media because people just don't know what

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Speaker 1: They just don't know. Rick Berker joined us ask his

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Speaker 1: opinion around the corner. First, Uh, let's get my man

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Speaker 1: Dan Byron here, get a quick update.

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Speaker 6: D anybody got Doug.

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Speaker 7: In addition to tonight's Game five, Sham's just reported that

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Speaker 7: apparently ABC has listened they will have starting lineups as

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Speaker 7: part of the broadcast tonight. However, in the tweet to announce.

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Speaker 15: It, it was specifically stated that it's the first time since

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Speaker 15: twenty thirteen in the NBA Finals that the starting lineups

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Speaker 15: will be a part of the pregame broadcast for tonight's

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Speaker 15: Game five tip off tonight eight thirty Eastern Time from

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Speaker 15: Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 6: Following a report over the weekend, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, classic like social media where you get somebody who

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Speaker 1: hasn't paid attention. I love that, Adam Silver said, like

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Speaker 1: they were people were talking about like, hey, whatever happened

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Speaker 1: to those Larry O'Brien, I mean the the what's the

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Speaker 1: trophies Lario Branhross, Yeah, the Larry O'Brien trophies, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we haven't had those in like a decade because the stickers.

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Speaker 1: People slip on the stickers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I hated the mid court sticker, like I could not

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Speaker 7: stand it, and they only did it for a couple

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Speaker 7: of finals. It was just more of not having any

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Speaker 7: signis whatsoever on the court, like even you know, near

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Speaker 7: the mid court stripe or anything, but anyway.

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Speaker 1: Matter, I mean, look, and so they super imposed and

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Speaker 1: people freaking out about being superimposed.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, hey, I'll just I just go ahead.

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Speaker 7: I'll just say this. You have three different courts, four

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Speaker 7: different courts during the regular season. Why can't you make

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Speaker 7: a specific finals court?

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Speaker 6: Right you?

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Speaker 1: You don't need to make a finals court. They come

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Speaker 1: in segments. All you got to do is take out

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Speaker 1: exactly paint that segment. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. It's Monday. Uh, it's that Tonight is

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Speaker 1: going to be Game five of the NBA Finals. Who

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Speaker 1: better to catch up with than Rick Buker from Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com covering all things NBA. Buke,

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Speaker 1: there's there's you know, social media works and really all

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Speaker 1: forms of media.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you.

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Speaker 1: Have a Scott Foster of fishy in the game and

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Speaker 1: what some feel like or questionable calls at the end

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Speaker 1: of a game. You get all kinds of conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on the game four?

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Speaker 13: I thought there were mistakes made by Indiana in the

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Speaker 13: final two minutes and forty one seconds. I'm certainly not

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Speaker 13: going to put what transpired there on Scott Foster. I

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Speaker 13: thought that the Pacers did get a tough whistle in

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Speaker 13: the first half, and Rick Carlisle apparently feeling like comfortable

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Speaker 13: with the score maybe and thinking I may need my

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Speaker 13: challenges later this is probably going to be a close game.

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Speaker 13: Opted not to challenge any of them, you know. The

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Speaker 13: only one, the only debatable one was in the final

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Speaker 13: minutes that I could see, was the shot by Shake

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Speaker 13: Gill does Alexander that gave Oklahoma City its first second

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Speaker 13: half lead. But based on the liberal interpretation of what

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Speaker 13: a gather step is and how loose they are in

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Speaker 13: callings step back, I don't know that he would have

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Speaker 13: won that. I would have liked to have seen him

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Speaker 13: challenge that and seen where it would have gone. But

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Speaker 13: other than that, my feeling was that the Pacers were

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Speaker 13: victims of their own hands. They made far too many mistakes.

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Speaker 13: Their execution wasn't good. They reached in too many situations. Look,

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Speaker 13: the referees demonstrated, let's let you know how they were

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Speaker 13: going to call it early on, and I don't know

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Speaker 13: that the Pacers adjusted and took that into account in

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Speaker 13: terms of how they played. So I'm not going to

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Speaker 13: I'm not going to put this on Scott Foster. I

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Speaker 13: thought it was a tough whistle early on. I thought

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Speaker 13: there were a number of plays, number of calls that

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Speaker 13: in looking at them at replay clearly went the wrong way.

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Speaker 13: But that's why you have challenges and and certainly that's

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Speaker 13: not where the game was decided. I thought the game

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Speaker 13: was decided in the third quarter. Actually, at the end

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Speaker 13: of the third quarter, when the Pacers led, had their

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Speaker 13: biggest lead by ten, had an opportunity should have, I believe,

870
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 13: should have expanded it to sixteen or eighteen at that

871
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 13: point and made it really difficult for Oklahoma City to

872
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 13: mount a fourth quarter comeback. And Carlisle had a gas

873
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 13: Obie topping and what appeared to be a gas Pascal

874
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 13: Siakam and an ineffective TJ. McConnell, and an ineffective Andrew

875
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 13: Nemmhart and he didn't make any changes. He wrote it

876
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 13: to the end, and they scored one point in the

877
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 13: final two minutes. Instead of it being seventeen, it was seven.

878
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 13: And you just got the feeling like the thunder felt

879
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 13: like they dodged a bullet.

880
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Yep, I would agree.

881
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: You kind of got a step on him when he

882
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: got him down, and yeah, I thought he traveled.

883
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: I thought he pushed off.

884
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: But again, well, we've seen enough of those not be called,

885
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, and we've seen enough not be called to

886
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: understand probably why they weren't called.

887
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: And look, you miss Ben Mather and missed two free

888
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: throws too.

889
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 13: You can't understand that in miss three or four, Yeah,

890
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 13: in three or four, and even like in the final

891
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 13: with seven seconds left, he could have fouled new Dort

892
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 13: and didn't, and the ball swings to Shay and and

893
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 13: them heart and then it is forced to foul him,

894
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 13: and I look, the game was probably out of reach

895
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 13: at that point because you had two fouls on on

896
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 13: on inbounds plays where okay, so you got free throws

897
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 13: and possession of the ball, so the game was already decided.

898
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 13: But that was just a microcosm for me of the

899
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 13: little mistakes that Indiana made. I just got the overall sense,

900
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 13: whether it was from Rick Carlisle or the Pacers, that

901
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 13: they felt like, oh, we've got this, we got them,

902
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 13: and didn't show enough respect for the fact that the

903
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 13: Oklahoma City Thunder were a sixty eight win team and

904
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 13: that if you had an opportunity to put them in

905
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 13: a deep hole, you needed to do it rather than

906
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 13: think that, you know what, we're just gonna as we have,

907
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 13: as we've proven we're the better executing team. In the

908
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 13: final minutes, they decided to play that game. And uh,

909
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 13: and and when you don't fully respect an opponent, you

910
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 13: often you often pay the price. The only other other

911
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 13: call that I looked at that that would suss and

912
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 13: I didn't see it in real time the replay was

913
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 13: the turnover by Halliburton where it looked like Dork gave

914
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 13: him a shove in order to get the ball. That's

915
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 13: the only other other other whistle that I saw where

916
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 13: I was thinking, Okay, they missed one in the final minutes.

917
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, what

918
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: do you make of the Desmond Bine trade?

919
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 14: Uh?

920
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 13: That the Orlando Magic are looking at it and saying,

921
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 13: we've we've got a crazy number of first round picks,

922
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 13: and we want to go for it.

923
00:50:59,719 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 10: Now.

924
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 13: We think we're we think we're one player away from

925
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 13: from making this happen, and we need to kind of

926
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 13: clear up our almost an embarrassment of riches. I was

927
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 13: surprised that the number of picks, to be honest with you,

928
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 13: unprotected first round picks. But I think the way they're

929
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 13: looking at it is, you know what we expect to

930
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 13: be really good, and we look at the uh and

931
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 13: and and therefore, you know, how good are those picks

932
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 13: going to be? And uh and the and the Eastern

933
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 13: Conference is wide open, like nobody knows what the Boston

934
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 13: Celtics are going to be. Nobody's buying the Milwaukee Bucks

935
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 13: right now, Philadelphia seventy six ers, I mean, go down

936
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 13: the line. I think they're looking at it and looking

937
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 13: at how how how they've played the last year or

938
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 13: two and are saying, you know, the one thing that

939
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 13: we're missing, the big one thing that we're missing is

940
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 13: is three point shooting. And Desmond Bane can certainly give

941
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 13: us that and gives us a very tough, physical backcourt

942
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 13: between Jal and Suggs and Desmond Vane and so I

943
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 13: think they just decided, you know, we're going to go

944
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 13: for it because at this point we have a bunch

945
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 13: of young players, like we can't all the picks that

946
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 13: we have, We're not going to be able to utilize

947
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 13: them all. So I think they probably gave get almost

948
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 13: practically gave away a couple in this case.

949
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: Uh.

950
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: Where are we with Kevin Durant in regards to the

951
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: likelihood of him being traded and destinations?

952
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 13: Well, the interesting you know, the report is that Houston,

953
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 13: San Antonio and Miami Heat are his preferred destinations. As

954
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 13: we know with star players, they generally you're picking from

955
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 13: the teams that they want to go to, and so

956
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 13: you know, who can make the best deal or how

957
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 13: much that he directs like I want to go to

958
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 13: this particular place. I mean, it really comes down to

959
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 13: if it's those three, both Houston and San Antonio can

960
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 13: make better offers for KD than than than Miami at

961
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 13: this point. That said, at least as starter kits for

962
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 13: what Phoenix is I assume is looking to rebuild. That said,

963
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 13: I believe that the best place for KD would be

964
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 13: among those three teams. Would be Miami. The absolute best

965
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 13: place would be for me would be Denver, and I'd

966
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 13: be willing to move Jamal Murray in order to make

967
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 13: that happen. And I would sell Phoenix on the idea

968
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 13: that we're going to give you the point guard you

969
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 13: guys have been looking for since Chris Paul left town.

970
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 13: And and the money that that Jamal is making comes

971
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 13: close to what KD is, So it wouldn't be a

972
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 13: one for one, but it could be fairly close. And

973
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 13: I love the idea of of Aaron Gordon, Nikola Jokic

974
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 13: and k D as being the core of my of

975
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 13: my Denver team. I think if they had that core,

976
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 13: I put them right there as as being capable of

977
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 13: playing with anybody in the West, and I probably favor

978
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 13: them regardless of what Oklahoma City does in the next week.

979
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: Wow.

980
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's the

981
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: voice of Rick Buker, New York Knicks head coaching job

982
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: still reports that Jason Kidd is the guy. Uh, but

983
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: they continue to get turned down, and then of course

984
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: the internet has fun with it. You know that the

985
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: Bucks offered up Doc Rivers on the Knicks refuse this time.

986
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: Like you've heard all of those, what's the reality to

987
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: where they are in their head coaching search?

988
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 13: They I mean, they're they're they're searching for an answer

989
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 13: right now. I do believe that while the Jason Kidd

990
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 13: thing was turned down, I would not be surprised if

991
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 13: we end up revisiting that. It really comes down to,

992
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 13: And I haven't had a chance to talk to Jason

993
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 13: or anybody in his camp yet, but I I could

994
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 13: see where he pushes the needle and tries to make

995
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 13: make that, tries to reopen that from his end, because

996
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 13: it wasn't Jason Kidd rejecting the request, it was the

997
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 13: Dallas Maverick saying we're not going to let you talk

998
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 13: to our guy. And uh, and then it comes down

999
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 13: to are they willing willing to give up a pick

1000
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 13: or is Dallas posturing in order if we do give

1001
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 13: him up, then you're gonna have to give us a

1002
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 13: little bit more than than maybe was originally a thought.

1003
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 13: So that's where I would expect I would expect that

1004
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 13: to go. But look, Uh, every GM that I've ever

1005
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 13: talked to always has a list in his pocket of

1006
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 13: the head coaches that he would hire if he could

1007
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 13: his wish list, and it's regardless of whether he has

1008
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 13: a coach that he likes at the time or not.

1009
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 13: They always have that. And the way the Knicks have

1010
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 13: approached this would make you think that they that they

1011
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 13: didn't have a wish list like that, because even if

1012
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 13: you look at the guys that they've supposedly requested interviews from,

1013
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 13: they're all different. They're all like they're just across the board.

1014
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 13: They don't make a whole lot of sense for what

1015
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 13: the New York Knicks have and where they are. So

1016
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 13: it's hard to predict what they're doing when one you

1017
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 13: don't we've got multiple people in the front office that

1018
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 13: put out information, you don't know which one to trust.

1019
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 13: And two, the proof is in the way they've approached this,

1020
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 13: which is a scattergun approach. It just does not fit

1021
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 13: with every other coach search that I've seen. Look, I

1022
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 13: thought from the very beginning, if you're the first place

1023
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 13: I would go is Taylor Jenkins. So I think he

1024
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 13: got the short stick in Memphis, and I think he

1025
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 13: demonstrated that with a scoring point guard, he knows how

1026
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 13: to run a team like that, And I know that

1027
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 13: he had the respect of his players until the front

1028
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 13: office undercut him and brought in some assistant coaches to

1029
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 13: run the kind of offense that the front office thought

1030
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 13: that they should run. That's the first place that I

1031
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 13: would have gone. And maybe the second would have been

1032
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 13: not Chris Finch to the Minnesota Timberwolves for his assistant

1033
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 13: coach Michael Nori because Norri. Because we've got a chance

1034
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 13: to see him coach that team in the playoffs, and

1035
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 13: I think that from what I know about his personality,

1036
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 13: I think he'd be able to handle the New York market.

1037
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 13: Those would have been the first two places that I

1038
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 13: would have gone. And not an array of coaches who

1039
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 13: have current jobs and you have to get permission from

1040
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 13: their teams in order to just talk to them.

1041
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. Buke, that's Rick Bucker. You see him on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports one. You're reds work at Fox Sports dot com.

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Speaker 1: You hear him weekly here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: Buke outstanding. Enjoy the game tonight. We will talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for our guest.

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Speaker 2: You all right?

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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