WEBVTT - Jets-Bucs Game Preview (11/9) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.800 Like game on the world. You played to win the 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:18.320 game a Jet Touchdown. Get your listening to the Official 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:25.600 Jets podcast Jets three sixty production, Jets Nation. What's going on? 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.159 Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen back in studio for the 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.000 Official Jet Podcast Game for the Jets Box This Sunday, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:37.360 e A Greens Are you feeling good rested? I was. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.560 I was gonna ask you man, yes, the mini by 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.360 came in clutch. It was nice to have a full weekend. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:45.920 Nice to watch sit down on a Sunday, watch some 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.800 football with no work. I gotta be honest with you. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.559 I did not like a lot of the football I 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.200 saw early one o'clock game. I was missing Jets football. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.520 The Dallas Kansas City game was entertaining. But hey, it's 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.600 time for the Green and White. The get back to 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.040 work and they're going on the road. And this week 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.680 on the Game Preview podcast were joined by former Jets 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:10.160 and Bucks tight end Anthony Becked, as well as Rick Stroud, 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.880 who covers the Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times. He 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.160 actually knows Rick Stroud from his time in Tampa Bay 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.759 well back in two thousand. I started my NFL career 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:23.200 in the pr department on the Buccaneers. Tony Dungee was 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.680 the head coach, uh Rod Marinelli, defensive line coach Love 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.800 Smith defensive backs coach, and future Jets head coach Herman 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.720 Edwards was a secondary coach. And did you know that 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.600 when Herman Edwards went up to New York and took 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.920 the job here with the Jets, the guy who was 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:44.600 replaced by Mike Tomlin, future head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.600 So that's all the Tony Dungee tree. But yes, Rick 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.480 Stroud has been covering the Buccaneers for a long time 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.320 and I got a chance to interact with him on 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.440 a few occasions as I was just a young buck 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.240 coming up in Tampa. No pun intended there. I d 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.800 a the Jets good game last Thursday week night against 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.240 the Bills, now four or five all right, outstanding game 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.400 thirt went over the Bills. Though, moving forward to this week, 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.840 the Jets a little rested with this mini buy right, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.280 what do they need to accomplish off the field in 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.960 order to win this game on Sunday? Well, I just 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.000 think you gotta keep a similar mindset. I think Todd 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:27.079 Bowlis has said, these guys ready to play for each 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.320 of the nine contests so far in two thousand and seventeen. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.880 Jermaine Curse corrected me on Inside the Jets the other day, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.799 actually corrected Bart Scott, and you can listen to that 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.600 an official Jets podcast as well. He said, you know, 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.920 I think from the beginning of this season, you know, 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:49.200 we've had that type of confidence. Um, the first game 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.040 against Buffalo has been was the first game a lot 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.040 of us even played with each other. When I was 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.000 talking to a lot of people, I would ask him, ill, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:58.680 how long have you been on the team, And some 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.480 of them was like, I just got here March. And so, 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.280 you know, the more and more people I have asked, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.119 I'm like, man, this team is like really brand new, 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.480 and whether they were young or they just got here. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.160 So that first those first two games, we were kind 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.120 of just figuring out who we were, you know, and 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.280 just figuring out what's our team identity, what are is 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.680 our standards and you know, kind of learning about accountability 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.840 and sacrificing. So but as far as confidence wise, it 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.160 I don't think there was any lack of it. Right 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.680 now for the Jets, it's to become a more consistent 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.520 team Josh McCown has said, we haven't really played a 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.640 complete game. We've shown flashes. But for now the Jets, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.320 they just got to be more consistent because you look 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.440 at their seasons so far as been a season of streaks. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.160 You lose to you win three, you lose three, now 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.920 you win one, and now you're looking to go on 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.680 another winning streak. And this is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.760 team greens that is struggling mightily two and six, and 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.640 they will be without a couple of their top performers 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.000 on Sunday. Jamis Winston shut down with a shoulder injury 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.960 and Mike Evans suspended for one game after shoving Saints 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:07.200 cornerback Marshawn Lattimore. He got suspended by the NFL. He 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.880 appealed it, it was upheld. He won't play Sunday. In turn, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.680 this is where the Bucks have left. Ryan Fitzpatrick will 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.920 start for the Buccaneers. Obviously, Jets fans are familiar with him. 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.359 To Shawn Jackson, the speedy receiver formerly of the Eagles 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.000 and the Redskins. First year in Tampa, he slides into 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.680 the one, Chris Godwin, Adam Humphries. Those are the guys 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:30.520 in the receiving corps. Then you got a pair of 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.400 tight ends who will touch on with Anthony Becked and 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.719 Cameron brad and rookie O J. Howard. Ryan Fitzpatrick is 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.080 gonna give you some opportunities to make some plays on 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.080 a football. A lot of pre snapper reeds from fits 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.279 Um and he's gonna try to get the ball quickly. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.240 I don't know if you're gonna have an opportunity to 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.400 get there seven times because he likes to release that 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.760 ball quickly. But we're talking tight ends. And I also 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.440 gotta think about Doug Martin because when you look at Tampa, 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.640 I think there is a mismatch of in the Jets favor, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.280 especially up front. Their role line a little bit banged 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.760 up against the Jets defensive line that's starting to um 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.400 feel itself so to speak. You know, they are playing 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.240 with some confidence. I think Mohammed Wokerson has had his 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.680 best stretch of the season. Leonard Williams continues to be 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.120 stout against the Ron. He got into the sick department 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.080 as well. And I just think that there's a good 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.240 mojo upfront for the Jets and they have a clear 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:33.279 advantage against Tampa. If you're a fan of storylines, obviously 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.560 has no implication on the games with this weekend is 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.360 full of them. You know about Fitzpatrick, Josh McCown going 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.640 back to Tampa where he spent the two thousand and 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.120 fourteen season where oh, by the way, Austin Safari and 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.520 Jenkins was drafted. So if you didn't know that they 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.120 were familiar with each other before this year, check out 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.120 Jets flight plan on Sunday because you sat down with 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.120 a s J shout down with Jimmy Johnson tight Ends 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.120 coach and Josh McCown for an in depth look. So 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.000 be sure to look for that nice plug. Nice plugs. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.839 I will tell you this is the third consecutive year 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.680 that Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown have faced each other 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.440 in a regular season. Let's dial up our feature guests. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.320 Let's bring in Anthony back to where's a number of hats? 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.240 You actually live in Tampa. The Jets are coming down 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.600 to face the Buccaneers this week, and you actually are 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:30.479 employed by both organizations? Is that true? Yeah, you know 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.280 it's it's it's a it's a good deal because who 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.320 has more information about two teams that are playing each 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.280 other than me. So I know these guys fairly watch 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.880 them studium and uh against two teams. In my opinion, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.039 even though they do uh they do uh promote me 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.920 on both sides are going in different directions. Why is 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.680 that happening, Anthony? You know, I'll tell you it comes. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.360 It's a lot of things. I mean, number one, offensively, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.680 you know, when you have a team that's been put 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.520 together with the star or uh you know, really paper 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.920 star power like the Buccaneers, you have high expectations. Unfortunately, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.440 that ship is driven by your quarterback. And I think 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.840 right now Jamis Winston. Uh he's got a little bit 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.960 of a shoulder thing going on that he's dealing with. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.320 But you know, for me, Eric, you know when when 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.800 when players are on the field and they're playing and 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.880 they're injured, if you can't do what you can do 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:25.600 and do it to the best of your ability to 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.800 help the team, then you shouldn't be out there. But 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.600 if you're all on the field, then you you've got 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:31.920 to be able to live up and play up to 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.320 the expectation level to make sure that that team has 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.320 enough to win on the field. And right now, you 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.200 know it's Jamis is accuracy right now is an issue. Uh, 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.240 you know, his ability to you know, throw the ball 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.640 down the field has not been consistent. Sean Jackson should 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.360 have ten touchdowns this year on deep balls and we 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.960 haven't connected one of them yet. So it's been a 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.160 frustrating deal with this offense. Again, weapons would where a 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.800 lot of star power, but the production on the field 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.440 has been minimal, at least from the offense endpoint. Anthony, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.400 You've been saying that the Bucks have not put together 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.680 a complete performance on offense. What have you seen out 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.840 of Mike Evans, who's highly regarded as a potential top 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.880 three receiver in the league right now? Now, you're right. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.960 I mean, statistically this year you wouldn't say that, but 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.800 he's open. You know, he's still winning routes. Uh. Last 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.000 the last couple of years, he's been as dominant as 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.920 any receiver in the league. It's an excellent matchup, you know. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.160 You know, Mike has a lot of advantages on his side, 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.600 and he's got great length, great speed. Uh, you know, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.800 his his reachable catch radius, it's huge. It's tough for 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.120 defensive backs, even you know, bigger guys like Claiborne, and 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.959 they just have problems with him because you know, he's 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.199 able to kind of go get footballs where a lot 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.959 of receivers can't get them. But unfortunately, right now they 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.840 the Buccaneers, cannot find ways to get him to football 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.360 down the field in productive places for him to be 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.400 a game changer. And you know with the after she 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.640 issues in the quarterback situation and that that's been tough. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.280 But he is as deadly and dangerous as any humor 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.480 in the league. He's someone you have to deal with. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.880 We just can't find ways to get the ball. Then 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.640 how do you how do you prevent an implosion down there? 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.079 Because you know it, You've been part of teams that 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.560 have struggled before. There's two ways of going right now. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.559 You can either pack up the tents and say, hey, listen, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.679 I'm gonna do what I do and not worry about 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.800 the team. Or you guys can come together and they 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.000 can start playing better football, the kind of football that 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.760 everybody expected from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers before the two 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.040 thousand and seventeen season started. You know, you would like 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.960 to say the latter that these guys could galvanize together 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.880 and and you know, you've got so much talent. There's 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.319 enough talent there that you don't have to be great 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.800 every week. You just gotta be good and execute properly. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.000 And they haven't been able to do that. So, uh, 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.360 you know, listen, this this is a tough matchup. You know, listen, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.560 the Jets are are they laughed the start out, There's 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.559 no question about it. But they will punch you in 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.439 the mount and they will fight you for four quarters. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.240 And the more AMMO you feed them as far as 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.680 telling them they're gonna lose every game before the season 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:09.840 or they're not good enough where they can't do this 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.319 or that, the more they respond, and that team is galvanized. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.160 And you look at the Buccaneers at two and six 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.240 and then you come off as you know, the same 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.880 scheme where you have some other things. I mean, everybody 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.760 in the media is talking about a sideline issue and 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.440 fighting and pushing and shoving outside of the game of football. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.719 That's never a good thing for an organization. So, uh, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.600 can they do it? Yeah? Do they have the guys 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.280 that do it? Absolutely? There's no signs right now that 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.080 showed me that. And unfortunately, with eight games left and 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.120 a quarterback that's injured, I don't know where you turn 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.240 right now, but hopefully for the latter they can turn 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.040 things around and become a team that can finish strong 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.880 over the last eight games. Well, I want to talk 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.319 about the Jets here in just a second, but you've 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:58.160 been on twitter ed Anthony Becked saying that Winston's accuracy 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.840 continues to be a problem. You men, send it here 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:07.320 earlier in the podcast. What about his maturity, Anthony? You know, 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.120 it's interesting because you know, the first one in the building, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.160 the last one out, the guy that works the harvest. Uh, 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:17.000 the guy that does everything you want from an organizational 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.839 standpoint is Jameis Winston. And you know what, Jamison, you 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.040 can used to have to prove himself because of the 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.640 things obviously coming out of college. And then you know 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.200 off the field, and he's been eight plus off the field, 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.520 there's still a question about it. He's done everything you 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:35.280 could want within the community support. Uh, just very top end. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.040 And then though there's the thing that rubs merong because 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.280 I'm a guy that I'm old school and and and 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.760 I'm always watching actions and and and constantly seeing how 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.600 players are. And you know, in this league, it's a 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.760 younger league, there's a lot of outside things that can 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.120 be pulled in as distractions. And you know when I 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.200 saw Jamis u in the set on the sideline in 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.040 the same game, and I'm thinking to myself, a day's 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.760 points finger And then he goes and he starts poking 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.959 a Lattimore, a Lottimore in the back, and I'm thinking, Okay, 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.280 what are you doing. You know you're out of the game. Uh, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.240 you know, you're no longer part of what this team 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.400 to team can do at the present time. And you're 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.559 coming on the off the field onto the playoff silding, 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.160 you're doing those kind of things. And I'm thinking with 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:21.440 Tom Brady, with Josh McCown, with Drew Brees, with Marcus Mariotta, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.600 do that and you know, instigate something silly like that. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:26.800 And it wasn't even a time, guys, even if it 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.000 was being funny, you're down four touchdowns. I don't think 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.720 anybody was smiling at that time. So and then it 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.120 pulls in Mike Evans. You know, he probably touches the 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.679 back game when Lattimore pushes him, and he puts a 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.599 cheap shot in on Lattimore. So it just loves a 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.000 book good. But it starts with the quarterback, and you 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.360 go back to is he mature? Well, he has, he 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.959 showed me, show me everything, and the fact that he's 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.480 been mature as a quarterback. But then you see something 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.319 like that and you're thinking, why why are you going there? 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.160 Why are you even attempting to to to to put 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.079 a shot at your personality or all the things you've 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.480 worked so hard to do for something simple like that 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.240 that you probably did think was a big deal. But 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.160 we all know the cameras always on you. Man, everybody 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.520 sees him. Now you're a headline on Sports Center and 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.600 it has nothing to do with your football ability. So 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.000 it's unfortunate. Hopefully we've never see it again. Guys, Yeah, 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.840 and they haven't been able to establish balance. I like 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.840 Doug Martin as a player, but doesn't seem like there's 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.920 a lot of holes there for him in the run game. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.040 Let's flip to the Jets side. What do you think 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.400 about the transformation that you've seen from Austin Safari and Jenkins? Man. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.960 I'll tell you know, I've been I've been speaking with 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.680 him in textinggan since he signed up for the Jets, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.000 and obviously I I tried to connect with him as 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.640 much as I could in camp. I wanted to help 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.959 this guy, wanted him to be successful because I saw 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.679 the potential when he came out of college, and I 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.800 know he had to Michis and he needs to be guided. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.120 And at that point in Austinsperian Jenkins life in Tampa, 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.040 you know, he was saying all the right things to me, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.200 but we he never took the time to embrace the 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.400 help and listen and get together and under stand and 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.080 learn what it takes to be a pro and then 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.120 be Quite honestly, I don't know how much he loved 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.640 the game when he was a Champa for whatever reason 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.000 that might have been, whether he was young, whether they 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.319 you know, just didn't like his situation or whatever it was, 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.600 and it just never came together. And then obviously he 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.240 had some ups and downs off the field bowl those things. Obviously, 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:23.600 it takes sometimes changeing a person to realize what they have. Unfortunately, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:28.000 takes a pour mistake for them to realize, you know, 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.280 what they have in front of him. And I think 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.040 he's a perfect example of that. You know, Austin to 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.360 me is a is a guy that you know when 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.640 I talked to him. Now, different demeanor, football is important 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.360 to him. Uh. You know, he's gone to a team 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.080 where he feels like he's being embraced and utilized in 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:49.000 the winning games, and you know, he's having some success 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.360 and he's got a long road ahead of him. I mean, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.960 let's be honest, guys. You know, he's still got to 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.200 put his footprint down as a guy to be accountable 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.720 every week. Uh. You know, if you go out in 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.840 the few to be a Titan, that could be dominant 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.480 his position. But I think right now what he's doing 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.480 is keeping taking every opportunity has had so far and uh, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.040 you know, rewarding the Jets number one for taking a 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:16.000 chance on him and giving great play and consistently now 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.560 showing that he can do it, you know, weekend and 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.520 week out basis. And you know, listen, it's a it's 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.120 a one year kind of proving deal. I mean, you know, 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:27.280 there's there's no long term uh fulfillment with the Jets 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.800 for him. He has to prove himself every single game 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.760 to show that he's worried to stay with them moving 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.160 forward after this season. So he goes that. You know, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.960 he understands that, and you know, he's just glad that 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.520 he's got this one opportunity, so I'm hoping that it 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.600 continues to work out for him. I mean, listen, he's 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.400 wearing eighty eight, so obviously I gotta the tie there. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:48.840 Don't just give that number way, right, Guys that you 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.000 know do some fine a come through that door. And 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.080 he's got an expectation level to live up to. Anthony 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.840 Becks here on the Official Jetz Podcast. Anthony, knowing both 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.080 teams as well as you do, what do you think 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.040 that the Jets formula for successes this weekend? Well, you know, listen, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.480 they have some undersized guys on the edges on defense 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.960 right now because of the injuries and and lack of 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.160 guys being able to kind of set the edge and 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.040 and and that's an issue. I mean that that that's 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.240 glaring on tape. That's something that that's not going to 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.280 be a secret um. The secondary has been has been 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.680 a little bit of an up and down story. You know, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.080 Brent Grimes has been off and on injury. He's by 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.280 fall All dels Loft down corner when he's on the 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.720 field for a different team in the secondary. But he 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.240 didn't play last week, and you know, his status is 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.000 still up in the air. And even if he is 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:38.760 on the field, you know how healthy it see. So 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.600 I think you know, when you look at what this 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.640 defense brings, it brings a lot of inconsistent play. You know, listen, guys, 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.480 this is the defense that was built in the off 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:52.080 season that needed all eleven players on the field and 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:56.119 healthy that started the season to be good, to be maunageable, 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.440 to be able to do the things he wants to do. Unfortunately, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.960 they've had a fixed bag of injuries. It's been off 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.680 and on. Guys have been on in and out, and 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.520 it hasn't been the way they wanted to draw it up. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.000 And they've got a kind of sugarcoat and kind of 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.840 hide and disguise some of their weaknesses. So I'd say 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.560 the most glaring thing for me is attacking the edges. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.080 And you know, when you talk about the Jets and 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.840 what they have, you know, four K probably isn't the 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.840 premier edge guy, but you know, bout pound, why are 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.280 those guys mixed game a little playoffs? And really what 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.240 they've been doing, it's going to be even probably more 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.840 effective when you're looking at what the weaknesses are. Yeah, 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.720 the Jets gotta feel awfully confident coming into this game, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.760 and I think Todd Bowls will continue to take the 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.600 proper approach of Hey, listen, there isn't no time to 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.800 rest on your laurels just because you beat the Buffalo 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.360 Bills in your four and five. But you're right about 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:50.560 the Buccaneers lack of being successful and setting that edge. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.680 The Jets just rushed for nearly two yards against the 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.919 Bills team that entered the ball game Thursday night, right 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.520 number three in the National Football League against the run. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.560 And then you got Josh McCown who's spreading the ball 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:07.080 around to everybody. We mentioned Austin's Varion Jenkabs before, Jermaine Curis, 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:11.639 Robby Anderson continues to develop as a receiver, and uh, 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.960 you really can't focus in on one guy with this 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.919 Jets offense. That's the beauty of it. Conversely, what do 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.280 you like best about the Jets defense right now? A 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.879 lot of folks are talking about those rookie safeties and 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.239 they're playing really well. How about Da Mario Davis and 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.200 Darrently in the middle. A lot of people thought that 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.160 middle linebacker uh spot was suspect for the Jets before 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.400 the season, but they're coming on. And then Mohammed Wokerson 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.679 has had his best three weeks in two thousand and seventeen, 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.640 back to back to back. Here entering the ball game 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.920 against Tampa and the Jets had only eleven sex entering 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.160 the game against the Bills and they come down with seven. Well, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:58.920 I think the trend is e gradually game one heading up. 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.159 Not a lot of gets and valleys, and that's what 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.040 you want. And you you know, again, I was talking 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.720 to uh one of the coaches up before the game 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.159 and the sacks like where are there? Early on you 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.960 would see Darren Ly you know, hit the wrong holes, 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.560 not being the right gaps, Jamal Adams coming down in 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:18.359 the wrong gaps, and all of a sudden, you know, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.159 after the Raiders game, when they kind of got hit 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.080 in the mouth again of the Run game, that's when 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.960 they started. You know, they see what's going on on 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.920 film and they're able to be better at it and improve. 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.720 And that's the best thing. You love, you you love 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.679 to see a guy like Darren Lee can improve this 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.920 game because he's it, you know, n't it. I didn't 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.200 hit it, I got blocked here, I got pantake there, 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.640 But he wasn't in the right spot. He wasn't doing 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.880 the you know, playing with intense within the defensive toples 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.639 is calling and then all of a sudden, then the 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.840 right spots coming into this season. If you were to 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.480 ask anybody on the judge that you wanted to see, 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.239 what would you say, Well, you know, yeah, you'd love 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.560 to see win, but you want to see young players 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.000 progress and get better and stuck. You know what. These 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.480 things were proving that they could be good. And these 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.520 guys today and I think the most important thing with 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.080 this Church team is is this guys are getting skills, 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.359 are putting drives together. So now not only are you 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.119 being efficient, but this season was very an eyeball just 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.600 what guys could stick and what guys can do it. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.160 And you're seeing when you can fine ten play drives 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.239 on offense, you're sending out about lineman, you're finding all 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.240 about down receivers, youse, guys are getting reps after reps 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.600 after rest. Well, now you can figure out okay or 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.840