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Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen back in studio for the
Speaker 1: Official Jet Podcast Game for the Jets Box This Sunday,
Speaker 1: e A Greens Are you feeling good rested? I was.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you man, yes, the mini by
Speaker 1: came in clutch. It was nice to have a full weekend.
Speaker 1: Nice to watch sit down on a Sunday, watch some
Speaker 1: football with no work. I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I did not like a lot of the football I
Speaker 1: saw early one o'clock game. I was missing Jets football.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Kansas City game was entertaining. But hey, it's
Speaker 1: time for the Green and White. The get back to
Speaker 1: work and they're going on the road. And this week
Speaker 1: on the Game Preview podcast were joined by former Jets
Speaker 1: and Bucks tight end Anthony Becked, as well as Rick Stroud,
Speaker 1: who covers the Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times. He
Speaker 1: actually knows Rick Stroud from his time in Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: well back in two thousand. I started my NFL career
Speaker 1: in the pr department on the Buccaneers. Tony Dungee was
Speaker 1: the head coach, uh Rod Marinelli, defensive line coach Love
Speaker 1: Smith defensive backs coach, and future Jets head coach Herman
Speaker 1: Edwards was a secondary coach. And did you know that
Speaker 1: when Herman Edwards went up to New York and took
Speaker 1: the job here with the Jets, the guy who was
Speaker 1: replaced by Mike Tomlin, future head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: So that's all the Tony Dungee tree. But yes, Rick
Speaker 1: Stroud has been covering the Buccaneers for a long time
Speaker 1: and I got a chance to interact with him on
Speaker 1: a few occasions as I was just a young buck
Speaker 1: coming up in Tampa. No pun intended there. I d
Speaker 1: a the Jets good game last Thursday week night against
Speaker 1: the Bills, now four or five all right, outstanding game
Speaker 1: thirt went over the Bills. Though, moving forward to this week,
Speaker 1: the Jets a little rested with this mini buy right,
Speaker 1: what do they need to accomplish off the field in
Speaker 1: order to win this game on Sunday? Well, I just
Speaker 1: think you gotta keep a similar mindset. I think Todd
Speaker 1: Bowlis has said, these guys ready to play for each
Speaker 1: of the nine contests so far in two thousand and seventeen.
Speaker 1: Jermaine Curse corrected me on Inside the Jets the other day,
Speaker 1: actually corrected Bart Scott, and you can listen to that
Speaker 1: an official Jets podcast as well. He said, you know,
Speaker 1: I think from the beginning of this season, you know,
Speaker 1: we've had that type of confidence. Um, the first game
Speaker 1: against Buffalo has been was the first game a lot
Speaker 1: of us even played with each other. When I was
Speaker 1: talking to a lot of people, I would ask him, ill,
Speaker 1: how long have you been on the team, And some
Speaker 1: of them was like, I just got here March. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, the more and more people I have asked,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this team is like really brand new,
Speaker 1: and whether they were young or they just got here.
Speaker 1: So that first those first two games, we were kind
Speaker 1: of just figuring out who we were, you know, and
Speaker 1: just figuring out what's our team identity, what are is
Speaker 1: our standards and you know, kind of learning about accountability
Speaker 1: and sacrificing. So but as far as confidence wise, it
Speaker 1: I don't think there was any lack of it. Right
Speaker 1: now for the Jets, it's to become a more consistent
Speaker 1: team Josh McCown has said, we haven't really played a
Speaker 1: complete game. We've shown flashes. But for now the Jets,
Speaker 1: they just got to be more consistent because you look
Speaker 1: at their seasons so far as been a season of streaks.
Speaker 1: You lose to you win three, you lose three, now
Speaker 1: you win one, and now you're looking to go on
Speaker 1: another winning streak. And this is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: team greens that is struggling mightily two and six, and
Speaker 1: they will be without a couple of their top performers
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Jamis Winston shut down with a shoulder injury
Speaker 1: and Mike Evans suspended for one game after shoving Saints
Speaker 1: cornerback Marshawn Lattimore. He got suspended by the NFL. He
Speaker 1: appealed it, it was upheld. He won't play Sunday. In turn,
Speaker 1: this is where the Bucks have left. Ryan Fitzpatrick will
Speaker 1: start for the Buccaneers. Obviously, Jets fans are familiar with him.
Speaker 1: To Shawn Jackson, the speedy receiver formerly of the Eagles
Speaker 1: and the Redskins. First year in Tampa, he slides into
Speaker 1: the one, Chris Godwin, Adam Humphries. Those are the guys
Speaker 1: in the receiving corps. Then you got a pair of
Speaker 1: tight ends who will touch on with Anthony Becked and
Speaker 1: Cameron brad and rookie O J. Howard. Ryan Fitzpatrick is
Speaker 1: gonna give you some opportunities to make some plays on
Speaker 1: a football. A lot of pre snapper reeds from fits
Speaker 1: Um and he's gonna try to get the ball quickly.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: get there seven times because he likes to release that
Speaker 1: ball quickly. But we're talking tight ends. And I also
Speaker 1: gotta think about Doug Martin because when you look at Tampa,
Speaker 1: I think there is a mismatch of in the Jets favor,
Speaker 1: especially up front. Their role line a little bit banged
Speaker 1: up against the Jets defensive line that's starting to um
Speaker 1: feel itself so to speak. You know, they are playing
Speaker 1: with some confidence. I think Mohammed Wokerson has had his
Speaker 1: best stretch of the season. Leonard Williams continues to be
Speaker 1: stout against the Ron. He got into the sick department
Speaker 1: as well. And I just think that there's a good
Speaker 1: mojo upfront for the Jets and they have a clear
Speaker 1: advantage against Tampa. If you're a fan of storylines, obviously
Speaker 1: has no implication on the games with this weekend is
Speaker 1: full of them. You know about Fitzpatrick, Josh McCown going
Speaker 1: back to Tampa where he spent the two thousand and
Speaker 1: fourteen season where oh, by the way, Austin Safari and
Speaker 1: Jenkins was drafted. So if you didn't know that they
Speaker 1: were familiar with each other before this year, check out
Speaker 1: Jets flight plan on Sunday because you sat down with
Speaker 1: a s J shout down with Jimmy Johnson tight Ends
Speaker 1: coach and Josh McCown for an in depth look. So
Speaker 1: be sure to look for that nice plug. Nice plugs.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this is the third consecutive year
Speaker 1: that Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown have faced each other
Speaker 1: in a regular season. Let's dial up our feature guests.
Speaker 1: Let's bring in Anthony back to where's a number of hats?
Speaker 1: You actually live in Tampa. The Jets are coming down
Speaker 1: to face the Buccaneers this week, and you actually are
Speaker 1: employed by both organizations? Is that true? Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it's a good deal because who
Speaker 1: has more information about two teams that are playing each
Speaker 1: other than me. So I know these guys fairly watch
Speaker 1: them studium and uh against two teams. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: even though they do uh they do uh promote me
Speaker 1: on both sides are going in different directions. Why is
Speaker 1: that happening, Anthony? You know, I'll tell you it comes.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of things. I mean, number one, offensively,
Speaker 1: you know, when you have a team that's been put
Speaker 1: together with the star or uh you know, really paper
Speaker 1: star power like the Buccaneers, you have high expectations. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: that ship is driven by your quarterback. And I think
Speaker 1: right now Jamis Winston. Uh he's got a little bit
Speaker 1: of a shoulder thing going on that he's dealing with.
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, Eric, you know when when
Speaker 1: when players are on the field and they're playing and
Speaker 1: they're injured, if you can't do what you can do
Speaker 1: and do it to the best of your ability to
Speaker 1: help the team, then you shouldn't be out there. But
Speaker 1: if you're all on the field, then you you've got
Speaker 1: to be able to live up and play up to
Speaker 1: the expectation level to make sure that that team has
Speaker 1: enough to win on the field. And right now, you
Speaker 1: know it's Jamis is accuracy right now is an issue. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, his ability to you know, throw the ball
Speaker 1: down the field has not been consistent. Sean Jackson should
Speaker 1: have ten touchdowns this year on deep balls and we
Speaker 1: haven't connected one of them yet. So it's been a
Speaker 1: frustrating deal with this offense. Again, weapons would where a
Speaker 1: lot of star power, but the production on the field
Speaker 1: has been minimal, at least from the offense endpoint. Anthony,
Speaker 1: You've been saying that the Bucks have not put together
Speaker 1: a complete performance on offense. What have you seen out
Speaker 1: of Mike Evans, who's highly regarded as a potential top
Speaker 1: three receiver in the league right now? Now, you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, statistically this year you wouldn't say that, but
Speaker 1: he's open. You know, he's still winning routes. Uh. Last
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, he's been as dominant as
Speaker 1: any receiver in the league. It's an excellent matchup, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike has a lot of advantages on his side,
Speaker 1: and he's got great length, great speed. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: his his reachable catch radius, it's huge. It's tough for
Speaker 1: defensive backs, even you know, bigger guys like Claiborne, and
Speaker 1: they just have problems with him because you know, he's
Speaker 1: able to kind of go get footballs where a lot
Speaker 1: of receivers can't get them. But unfortunately, right now they
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, cannot find ways to get him to football
Speaker 1: down the field in productive places for him to be
Speaker 1: a game changer. And you know with the after she
Speaker 1: issues in the quarterback situation and that that's been tough.
Speaker 1: But he is as deadly and dangerous as any humor
Speaker 1: in the league. He's someone you have to deal with.
Speaker 1: We just can't find ways to get the ball. Then
Speaker 1: how do you how do you prevent an implosion down there?
Speaker 1: Because you know it, You've been part of teams that
Speaker 1: have struggled before. There's two ways of going right now.
Speaker 1: You can either pack up the tents and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I do and not worry about
Speaker 1: the team. Or you guys can come together and they
Speaker 1: can start playing better football, the kind of football that
Speaker 1: everybody expected from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers before the two
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen season started. You know, you would like
Speaker 1: to say the latter that these guys could galvanize together
Speaker 1: and and you know, you've got so much talent. There's
Speaker 1: enough talent there that you don't have to be great
Speaker 1: every week. You just gotta be good and execute properly.
Speaker 1: And they haven't been able to do that. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, listen, this this is a tough matchup. You know, listen,
Speaker 1: the Jets are are they laughed the start out, There's
Speaker 1: no question about it. But they will punch you in
Speaker 1: the mount and they will fight you for four quarters.
Speaker 1: And the more AMMO you feed them as far as
Speaker 1: telling them they're gonna lose every game before the season
Speaker 1: or they're not good enough where they can't do this
Speaker 1: or that, the more they respond, and that team is galvanized.
Speaker 1: And you look at the Buccaneers at two and six
Speaker 1: and then you come off as you know, the same
Speaker 1: scheme where you have some other things. I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: in the media is talking about a sideline issue and
Speaker 1: fighting and pushing and shoving outside of the game of football.
Speaker 1: That's never a good thing for an organization. So, uh,
Speaker 1: can they do it? Yeah? Do they have the guys
Speaker 1: that do it? Absolutely? There's no signs right now that
Speaker 1: showed me that. And unfortunately, with eight games left and
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's injured, I don't know where you turn
Speaker 1: right now, but hopefully for the latter they can turn
Speaker 1: things around and become a team that can finish strong
Speaker 1: over the last eight games. Well, I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the Jets here in just a second, but you've
Speaker 1: been on twitter ed Anthony Becked saying that Winston's accuracy
Speaker 1: continues to be a problem. You men, send it here
Speaker 1: earlier in the podcast. What about his maturity, Anthony? You know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know, the first one in the building,
Speaker 1: the last one out, the guy that works the harvest. Uh,
Speaker 1: the guy that does everything you want from an organizational
Speaker 1: standpoint is Jameis Winston. And you know what, Jamison, you
Speaker 1: can used to have to prove himself because of the
Speaker 1: things obviously coming out of college. And then you know
Speaker 1: off the field, and he's been eight plus off the field,
Speaker 1: there's still a question about it. He's done everything you
Speaker 1: could want within the community support. Uh, just very top end.
Speaker 1: And then though there's the thing that rubs merong because
Speaker 1: I'm a guy that I'm old school and and and
Speaker 1: I'm always watching actions and and and constantly seeing how
Speaker 1: players are. And you know, in this league, it's a
Speaker 1: younger league, there's a lot of outside things that can
Speaker 1: be pulled in as distractions. And you know when I
Speaker 1: saw Jamis u in the set on the sideline in
Speaker 1: the same game, and I'm thinking to myself, a day's
Speaker 1: points finger And then he goes and he starts poking
Speaker 1: a Lattimore, a Lottimore in the back, and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: what are you doing. You know you're out of the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you're no longer part of what this team
Speaker 1: to team can do at the present time. And you're
Speaker 1: coming on the off the field onto the playoff silding,
Speaker 1: you're doing those kind of things. And I'm thinking with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, with Josh McCown, with Drew Brees, with Marcus Mariotta,
Speaker 1: do that and you know, instigate something silly like that.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even a time, guys, even if it
Speaker 1: was being funny, you're down four touchdowns. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody was smiling at that time. So and then it
Speaker 1: pulls in Mike Evans. You know, he probably touches the
Speaker 1: back game when Lattimore pushes him, and he puts a
Speaker 1: cheap shot in on Lattimore. So it just loves a
Speaker 1: book good. But it starts with the quarterback, and you
Speaker 1: go back to is he mature? Well, he has, he
Speaker 1: showed me, show me everything, and the fact that he's
Speaker 1: been mature as a quarterback. But then you see something
Speaker 1: like that and you're thinking, why why are you going there?
Speaker 1: Why are you even attempting to to to to put
Speaker 1: a shot at your personality or all the things you've
Speaker 1: worked so hard to do for something simple like that
Speaker 1: that you probably did think was a big deal. But
Speaker 1: we all know the cameras always on you. Man, everybody
Speaker 1: sees him. Now you're a headline on Sports Center and
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with your football ability. So
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. Hopefully we've never see it again. Guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they haven't been able to establish balance. I like
Speaker 1: Doug Martin as a player, but doesn't seem like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of holes there for him in the run game.
Speaker 1: Let's flip to the Jets side. What do you think
Speaker 1: about the transformation that you've seen from Austin Safari and Jenkins? Man.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you know, I've been I've been speaking with
Speaker 1: him in textinggan since he signed up for the Jets,
Speaker 1: and obviously I I tried to connect with him as
Speaker 1: much as I could in camp. I wanted to help
Speaker 1: this guy, wanted him to be successful because I saw
Speaker 1: the potential when he came out of college, and I
Speaker 1: know he had to Michis and he needs to be guided.
Speaker 1: And at that point in Austinsperian Jenkins life in Tampa,
Speaker 1: you know, he was saying all the right things to me,
Speaker 1: but we he never took the time to embrace the
Speaker 1: help and listen and get together and under stand and
Speaker 1: learn what it takes to be a pro and then
Speaker 1: be Quite honestly, I don't know how much he loved
Speaker 1: the game when he was a Champa for whatever reason
Speaker 1: that might have been, whether he was young, whether they
Speaker 1: you know, just didn't like his situation or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: and it just never came together. And then obviously he
Speaker 1: had some ups and downs off the field bowl those things. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it takes sometimes changeing a person to realize what they have. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: takes a pour mistake for them to realize, you know,
Speaker 1: what they have in front of him. And I think
Speaker 1: he's a perfect example of that. You know, Austin to
Speaker 1: me is a is a guy that you know when
Speaker 1: I talked to him. Now, different demeanor, football is important
Speaker 1: to him. Uh. You know, he's gone to a team
Speaker 1: where he feels like he's being embraced and utilized in
Speaker 1: the winning games, and you know, he's having some success
Speaker 1: and he's got a long road ahead of him. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, guys. You know, he's still got to
Speaker 1: put his footprint down as a guy to be accountable
Speaker 1: every week. Uh. You know, if you go out in
Speaker 1: the few to be a Titan, that could be dominant
Speaker 1: his position. But I think right now what he's doing
Speaker 1: is keeping taking every opportunity has had so far and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, rewarding the Jets number one for taking a
Speaker 1: chance on him and giving great play and consistently now
Speaker 1: showing that he can do it, you know, weekend and
Speaker 1: week out basis. And you know, listen, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a one year kind of proving deal. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's no long term uh fulfillment with the Jets
Speaker 1: for him. He has to prove himself every single game
Speaker 1: to show that he's worried to stay with them moving
Speaker 1: forward after this season. So he goes that. You know,
Speaker 1: he understands that, and you know, he's just glad that
Speaker 1: he's got this one opportunity, so I'm hoping that it
Speaker 1: continues to work out for him. I mean, listen, he's
Speaker 1: wearing eighty eight, so obviously I gotta the tie there.
Speaker 1: Don't just give that number way, right, Guys that you
Speaker 1: know do some fine a come through that door. And
Speaker 1: he's got an expectation level to live up to. Anthony
Speaker 1: Becks here on the Official Jetz Podcast. Anthony, knowing both
Speaker 1: teams as well as you do, what do you think
Speaker 1: that the Jets formula for successes this weekend? Well, you know, listen,
Speaker 1: they have some undersized guys on the edges on defense
Speaker 1: right now because of the injuries and and lack of
Speaker 1: guys being able to kind of set the edge and
Speaker 1: and and that's an issue. I mean that that that's
Speaker 1: glaring on tape. That's something that that's not going to
Speaker 1: be a secret um. The secondary has been has been
Speaker 1: a little bit of an up and down story. You know,
Speaker 1: Brent Grimes has been off and on injury. He's by
Speaker 1: fall All dels Loft down corner when he's on the
Speaker 1: field for a different team in the secondary. But he
Speaker 1: didn't play last week, and you know, his status is
Speaker 1: still up in the air. And even if he is
Speaker 1: on the field, you know how healthy it see. So
Speaker 1: I think you know, when you look at what this
Speaker 1: defense brings, it brings a lot of inconsistent play. You know, listen, guys,
Speaker 1: this is the defense that was built in the off
Speaker 1: season that needed all eleven players on the field and
Speaker 1: healthy that started the season to be good, to be maunageable,
Speaker 1: to be able to do the things he wants to do. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: they've had a fixed bag of injuries. It's been off
Speaker 1: and on. Guys have been on in and out, and
Speaker 1: it hasn't been the way they wanted to draw it up.
Speaker 1: And they've got a kind of sugarcoat and kind of
Speaker 1: hide and disguise some of their weaknesses. So I'd say
Speaker 1: the most glaring thing for me is attacking the edges.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you talk about the Jets and
Speaker 1: what they have, you know, four K probably isn't the
Speaker 1: premier edge guy, but you know, bout pound, why are
Speaker 1: those guys mixed game a little playoffs? And really what
Speaker 1: they've been doing, it's going to be even probably more
Speaker 1: effective when you're looking at what the weaknesses are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Jets gotta feel awfully confident coming into this game,
Speaker 1: and I think Todd Bowls will continue to take the
Speaker 1: proper approach of Hey, listen, there isn't no time to
Speaker 1: rest on your laurels just because you beat the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills in your four and five. But you're right about
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers lack of being successful and setting that edge.
Speaker 1: The Jets just rushed for nearly two yards against the
Speaker 1: Bills team that entered the ball game Thursday night, right
Speaker 1: number three in the National Football League against the run.
Speaker 1: And then you got Josh McCown who's spreading the ball
Speaker 1: around to everybody. We mentioned Austin's Varion Jenkabs before, Jermaine Curis,
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson continues to develop as a receiver, and uh,
Speaker 1: you really can't focus in on one guy with this
Speaker 1: Jets offense. That's the beauty of it. Conversely, what do
Speaker 1: you like best about the Jets defense right now? A
Speaker 1: lot of folks are talking about those rookie safeties and
Speaker 1: they're playing really well. How about Da Mario Davis and
Speaker 1: Darrently in the middle. A lot of people thought that
Speaker 1: middle linebacker uh spot was suspect for the Jets before
Speaker 1: the season, but they're coming on. And then Mohammed Wokerson
Speaker 1: has had his best three weeks in two thousand and seventeen,
Speaker 1: back to back to back. Here entering the ball game
Speaker 1: against Tampa and the Jets had only eleven sex entering
Speaker 1: the game against the Bills and they come down with seven. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the trend is e gradually game one heading up.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of gets and valleys, and that's what
Speaker 1: you want. And you you know, again, I was talking
Speaker 1: to uh one of the coaches up before the game
Speaker 1: and the sacks like where are there? Early on you
Speaker 1: would see Darren Ly you know, hit the wrong holes,
Speaker 1: not being the right gaps, Jamal Adams coming down in
Speaker 1: the wrong gaps, and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: after the Raiders game, when they kind of got hit
Speaker 1: in the mouth again of the Run game, that's when
Speaker 1: they started. You know, they see what's going on on
Speaker 1: film and they're able to be better at it and improve.
Speaker 1: And that's the best thing. You love, you you love
Speaker 1: to see a guy like Darren Lee can improve this
Speaker 1: game because he's it, you know, n't it. I didn't
Speaker 1: hit it, I got blocked here, I got pantake there,
Speaker 1: But he wasn't in the right spot. He wasn't doing
Speaker 1: the you know, playing with intense within the defensive toples
Speaker 1: is calling and then all of a sudden, then the
Speaker 1: right spots coming into this season. If you were to
Speaker 1: ask anybody on the judge that you wanted to see,
Speaker 1: what would you say, Well, you know, yeah, you'd love
Speaker 1: to see win, but you want to see young players
Speaker 1: progress and get better and stuck. You know what. These
Speaker 1: things were proving that they could be good. And these
Speaker 1: guys today and I think the most important thing with
Speaker 1: this Church team is is this guys are getting skills,
Speaker 1: are putting drives together. So now not only are you
Speaker 1: being efficient, but this season was very an eyeball just
Speaker 1: what guys could stick and what guys can do it.
Speaker 1: And you're seeing when you can fine ten play drives
Speaker 1: on offense, you're sending out about lineman, you're finding all
Speaker 1: about down receivers, youse, guys are getting reps after reps
Speaker 1: after rest. Well, now you can figure out okay or
Speaker 1: these the pieces that are important to build the jets
Speaker 1: moving forward. And I think that's the differest thing. The
Speaker 1: reps that guys are gaining that are are important. Vallot reps,
Speaker 1: situational reps, fourth quarter reps where the team is in
Speaker 1: the game, what do you win to lose? You build
Speaker 1: in every game. You're finding out so much information about
Speaker 1: the current roster that that is going to pay huge dividends.
Speaker 1: Because if you just look right across the street with
Speaker 1: the Giants, you know they're playing some turnical ball and
Speaker 1: you're not able to get anything going to getting. You
Speaker 1: can't know from Luptick or young guys playing well because
Speaker 1: they're not getting defining plays in a game that's completely
Speaker 1: the opposite of what the Jets are getting. So not
Speaker 1: only are they learning on the rum with young players,
Speaker 1: they're getting meaningful plays and reps that go with and
Speaker 1: nothink to me, that's placeless for organizations of maybe didn't
Speaker 1: think this is going to be as good or maybe
Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: then you know you potenitions befinde in the Thickett things,
Speaker 1: pushing for a back in wild card spot and still
Speaker 1: getting growth and learning with some of your young players.
Speaker 1: This guy is excited. Anthony Beck is excited about this
Speaker 1: Jets team who has an opportunity to go five in
Speaker 1: five this week when they traveled down to the Gulf
Speaker 1: down there to Tampa against a struggling Buccaneers team. Uh
Speaker 1: Anthony back to wear's multiple hats worked for us during
Speaker 1: the preseason, still doing some pregame radio on the Jets.
Speaker 1: Radio and Network does a lot down there with the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization has a radio show down in
Speaker 1: Tampa as well. And then last but not least, you're
Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoons or Saturday evenings each and every week
Speaker 1: for ESPN doing color commentary. Last week you saw Auburn
Speaker 1: take a part, uh Texas A and I'm at Kyle Field.
Speaker 1: But you're all over the country. So who is the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy favorite at this time? Is that Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 1: Man goes to the best player in the country? Um Man.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you know, I put a top five out
Speaker 1: every week and you know, to me, you know, the
Speaker 1: best player in my opinion, see kuon Barkley. And you
Speaker 1: know I always look at things always for looking forward,
Speaker 1: also because I like to tie in everything with what
Speaker 1: are these guys going to do in the NFL? Like
Speaker 1: are these guys NFL players? Can they play? And I
Speaker 1: just think all around when you're looking at the best
Speaker 1: player to me. That springs so much to the cable
Speaker 1: that's at Anthony Back former Jets tight End, former bucking
Speaker 1: Eers tight and he works for both organizations. He's also
Speaker 1: doing a very good work for ESPN. We're watching him
Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoons, and I like whoever is doing your
Speaker 1: little caricatures as well. I'm I like all those little graphics.
Speaker 1: I need a couple of people here to help me
Speaker 1: with some graphics myself. I liked us, love the engagement
Speaker 1: being on the show. Talk to you guys, and every
Speaker 1: couple of weeks the New York Now, it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 1: We'll see you Sunday, buddy, all right, man, see later.
Speaker 1: All right. That was great stuff from Anthony Backs, who
Speaker 1: you said were as many hats and you could see
Speaker 1: that he does. I think he fell college and you
Speaker 1: have to watch him on Saturdays on ESPN. You know me,
Speaker 1: monster college. Anthony has been fantastic and he did a
Speaker 1: great job for the organization here after Marty Lions suffered
Speaker 1: this stroke doing color commentary on ESPN Radio with Bob
Speaker 1: was Shusan. He does a lot of work down there
Speaker 1: in Tampa. He lives down in Tampa with the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: and then on college football. I think his analysis has
Speaker 1: been spot on and he's really grown and I'm really
Speaker 1: happy for his success. Now it's time to turn the
Speaker 1: page because Jets bucks football this Sunday. This is the
Speaker 1: first out of four games that they'll be without Jeremy Curley,
Speaker 1: who was suspended by the NFL earlier this week. He's
Speaker 1: eligible to return to practice December eleventh, will be back
Speaker 1: against the Saints. So intern coach was obviously asked, all right,
Speaker 1: what's the plan here and involves a pair of rookies. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's something that I think you're gonna write about
Speaker 1: this week, is that our Darius Stewart and Chad Hansen
Speaker 1: gonna get more reps. Curse has said, I always talked
Speaker 1: to Chad talking about I need to see he went
Speaker 1: to Cows. I'll always give him crap about being another
Speaker 1: Pack twelve team and how we used to smack them
Speaker 1: all the time. But um, I always tell him, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I want to see your swag bag. And you know
Speaker 1: they've been doing a great job. They've been working on
Speaker 1: their craft. Um, each and every day I've been trying
Speaker 1: to talk. I've been talking to him, make myself available
Speaker 1: for them any any chance that they need help or anything,
Speaker 1: any questions. Um, So we just look forward them to
Speaker 1: just step up. I mean, it's the next man up
Speaker 1: and we're gonna need them in these next couple of games.
Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm looking forward to watching them play. Now.
Speaker 1: The catches have not been there for Hanson and Stewart yet,
Speaker 1: but the reps are there and that's important to get
Speaker 1: game rops. So what do you expect from the rookie receivers? Well,
Speaker 1: just real quick, you mentioned getting reps against the Bills
Speaker 1: last week, Hanson play of offensive snaps. Stewart played something
Speaker 1: else that that we should keep an eye on on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Is who's going to be the punt returner for this team?
Speaker 1: It was Curly and then Eli McGuire stepped in in
Speaker 1: his place. Coach was asked, Hey, is it gonna be Eli?
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know yet. He wasn't ready to commit,
Speaker 1: was he? And another interesting thing as we sit here
Speaker 1: is he was leaving the options open for the club
Speaker 1: to possibly sign another receiver from hold, somebody from the
Speaker 1: practice squad. But you asked me what I expect out
Speaker 1: of these receivers, and I don't I'm not quite sure,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: how they play because they've been able to take a
Speaker 1: back seat throughout the first nine weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: get implemented here and there. And coach said a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago when he was asked about these guys,
Speaker 1: he said, listen, they're gonna get their shots later on
Speaker 1: in the season. I don't think he knew about curly suspension,
Speaker 1: but hey, he's true. I mean what he said ended
Speaker 1: up being true. You'll feel bad for you feel bad
Speaker 1: for Jeremy kurr Um. And he's been a valuable piece
Speaker 1: to this offense, especially on third down. Who's m accounts
Speaker 1: go to guy? Because early on in the season, third
Speaker 1: and seven, he was going curly freight third and six.
Speaker 1: He's going to curly for seven. But you are getting
Speaker 1: valuable reps for a third and fourth round draft picks.
Speaker 1: How about the Buccaneers this week? You mentioned off the
Speaker 1: bat here that no Mike Evans. What does that mean
Speaker 1: for the Shawn Jackson? I think we should check in
Speaker 1: with Rick Stroud. All right, Greens, let's bring in Rick
Speaker 1: Stroud from the Tampa Bay Times. Rick. When I first
Speaker 1: met you, it was way back in two thousand, I
Speaker 1: was a pr intern for Reggie Roberts and the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers And it was Rick Stroud who worked for
Speaker 1: the St. Pete Time. Yeah. Yeah, I was a newspaper,
Speaker 1: a goo um her name sat Paper St. Pete Rutter
Speaker 1: as it turns out. But unfortunately, um, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years after that, they won the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and they they've been trying to get back to win
Speaker 1: a playoff game and really trying to get back to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it's taking them a decade and it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like this will be their year. What has
Speaker 1: been the most pressing issues for a team who a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought before the season was gonna be
Speaker 1: an NFC self contender, definitely a playoff team or a
Speaker 1: team that would be in the mix late in the year.
Speaker 1: And here they are sitting at the midway point, scuffling
Speaker 1: with the two and six record. Yeah, and you can
Speaker 1: start with the expectations. I mean, I think there was
Speaker 1: a lot of hype about this team. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of teams that win the off season don't do well. Um,
Speaker 1: I think you know, they won nine games a year ago,
Speaker 1: but had not really gotten into the postseason before. Um,
Speaker 1: there's some I think, truth you'll never be able to
Speaker 1: measure this that maybe they got over their skis because
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that's happened, I think you want to
Speaker 1: break it all kind of down. Um, you know, this
Speaker 1: was a two and one football team that lost to
Speaker 1: the Patriots on Thursday night nineteen to fourteen. They had
Speaker 1: the ball, uh you know, on the e t yard
Speaker 1: line and through what in the end zone the game
Speaker 1: was over, had some kicking issues at that juncture, and
Speaker 1: then Jamis Winston got hurt. And he got hurt in Arizona,
Speaker 1: they had a terrible first half, but nonetheless, uh you know,
Speaker 1: fitz magic Fitzpatrick brought him back a little bit. They
Speaker 1: lost that game was out of hand when he when
Speaker 1: he came in down twenty four and nothing. But I
Speaker 1: don't think Jamis Winston has been right. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: he had one good half in in Buffalo and they
Speaker 1: should have probably won that game. But if you look
Speaker 1: at it, they're owing four since he got hurt. They've
Speaker 1: scored nine points in the first half combined of all
Speaker 1: those games. And I think when your quarterback is not
Speaker 1: sort of playing at the level that you need him to.
Speaker 1: It affects other parts of your game. But I think
Speaker 1: all of it sort of runs downhill, you know, when
Speaker 1: that player is not the guy you need him to be.
Speaker 1: How does this offense change, not only with fits, but
Speaker 1: with the suspension of Mike Evans, assuming that's upheld, well,
Speaker 1: that that's a big loss. And you know, and Jamie's
Speaker 1: played the biggest role in that as well, because you know,
Speaker 1: he was out of the game last week in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and got into an altercation actually, you know, put
Speaker 1: his hands on one of the defensive backs and that's
Speaker 1: all Mike Evans saw and came and came to defend
Speaker 1: his quarterback, but did it in a in a perverse
Speaker 1: way when you know, plowed into the back of the
Speaker 1: blindside and so he's out. And that's not gonna hurt
Speaker 1: that's not gonna help rather h Fitzpatrick. But you know, Ryan,
Speaker 1: Ryan will run the offense. He's very capable and I
Speaker 1: think they have a lot of confidence in him from
Speaker 1: a team standpoint, but everyone else and it might be
Speaker 1: a good thing for the Bucks because I ain't you know,
Speaker 1: in some ways this team felt prey to just sort
Speaker 1: of waiting for the quarterback to you know, to make
Speaker 1: a play and get them out of first and twenty
Speaker 1: and get them out of you know, jams on defense
Speaker 1: and and and all those things. So it'll look different.
Speaker 1: But then again, um, you know, there might there might
Speaker 1: be some some good to it as well. Does it
Speaker 1: become a more tight end centric offense? Camera Bray extremely
Speaker 1: prolific as far as getting into the end zone. He
Speaker 1: was such a red zone force with Winston and then O. J.
Speaker 1: Howard developing tight end. Do you think with Evans out
Speaker 1: of the lineup, maybe the focus goes a little bit
Speaker 1: towards there and maybe more toward the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: I talked to somebody in Tampa earlier this week who
Speaker 1: said de Sean Jackson is getting open. They just haven't
Speaker 1: got the ball to him. He easily could have a
Speaker 1: few long scoring touchdowns this year. Unfortunately for him, his
Speaker 1: numbers just haven't done there. Yeah. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: the tight ends they have gone with a lot of
Speaker 1: that type of personnel anyway, And I think you're right that,
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Godwin's gonna step in and uh, you
Speaker 1: know for Mike Evans and and he's a capable kids
Speaker 1: site around pick that look great in training camp and
Speaker 1: whenever he's been called on. He's a big receiver himself,
Speaker 1: not not as you know, certainly as as taller, as
Speaker 1: established as you know it's Mike Evans. But um, you
Speaker 1: know they'll look for those matchups and I think they'll
Speaker 1: have to use the tight ends to to help their
Speaker 1: left tackle. I mean Donovan Smith, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's gonna play this game. He had never missed a
Speaker 1: snap until he had to come out of the game
Speaker 1: with a knee injury last week. That means Kevin Pample,
Speaker 1: who's a guard, and we'll move over to left tackle. Um,
Speaker 1: you know you'll have a new guard, so sort of
Speaker 1: a you know, Ryan is going to have to get
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands quick. Um. That that
Speaker 1: certainly plays the New Year theory about the tight ends.
Speaker 1: I think you'll see the running backs get more involved
Speaker 1: in the passing game at times. Um, but they will.
Speaker 1: He'll spread the ball around and um, you know they've
Speaker 1: they've really tried to keep those two tight ends on
Speaker 1: the field as much as possible and uh uh, you know,
Speaker 1: with the protection issues they may face, I'll probably do
Speaker 1: that again on the defensive side of the ball. From
Speaker 1: where I said, I know about Gerald McCoy, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of Jets fans know about McCoy, But who's
Speaker 1: an important piece of this Bugs defense? And just from
Speaker 1: your point of view, how do you think that this
Speaker 1: unit has performed in two thousands seventeen so far? Well,
Speaker 1: it's been up and down. I mean they've been as uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Smith has said the defensive coordinator like
Speaker 1: a yo yo. I mean they really have. They've They've
Speaker 1: been much better at home. Uh, they've not been very
Speaker 1: good at all on the road. Now, some of that
Speaker 1: is you know, when you're when your offense is going
Speaker 1: three now and you're constantly, you know, out there defending
Speaker 1: the whole field and maybe sometimes less than the whole field,
Speaker 1: that that can make them the numbers look a little skewed.
Speaker 1: But um, look, they don't have anybody on the outside
Speaker 1: that's getting me. A quarterback Robert Ares has had a
Speaker 1: couple of sacks last two weeks. Frankly, they were more
Speaker 1: quarterbacks pulling the ball down in some kind of coverage situations.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Frank Crimes can play. If he can,
Speaker 1: that helps the pass rush because they have a guy
Speaker 1: that can lock into some receivers. Um, the biggest strength
Speaker 1: of this defense right now is their linebackers. And Kwan
Speaker 1: Alexander is still trying to come back. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's had a couple of games coming off an injury.
Speaker 1: And then Bavonte David has played great for them. I
Speaker 1: mean he missed some games early as well, but he's
Speaker 1: got four force fumbles and I really expect him to
Speaker 1: be a big, big part of any defense they put
Speaker 1: out there early in a week. What do you see
Speaker 1: as far as matchups potentially that the Jets might be
Speaker 1: able to exploit here Sunday, It's kind of interesting. I
Speaker 1: think the matchup of the quarterbacks, let's start there. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick who was a Jet,
Speaker 1: Um Josh McCown who was a Buck, and both guys
Speaker 1: have combined to play for fifteen different football teams, and
Speaker 1: those are the two that they actually sort of intersect
Speaker 1: in terms of franchises they play eight for. So um
Speaker 1: lek Josh McCown, I loved you know when he when
Speaker 1: he was here, such a good guy as his Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's freakish athletically, he seems to be
Speaker 1: on a pretty good role. Um, you know, so I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see, you know, in an Austin Sufarian Jenkins,
Speaker 1: the guy the Bucks are premiary with as well at
Speaker 1: tight end. Um, you know those are certainly you know,
Speaker 1: a combination is gonna be to watch. But but but really,
Speaker 1: I think the Jets defense is playing at such a
Speaker 1: high level. I mean what they did the Buffalo was
Speaker 1: was not a mirage, right, I mean that defensive line
Speaker 1: got after some people. Um, the Bucks have played the Bills,
Speaker 1: they know how effective they aren't running the ball. Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor can be a handful with his ability to extend plays.
Speaker 1: And I really looked for this Jets defense to, you know,
Speaker 1: to to really sort of you know, try to dominate
Speaker 1: that offensive line that, like I said, will be missing
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith and if the box are unable, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to to to get the running game going at all,
Speaker 1: whether they have to spread them out or what do
Speaker 1: they have to do and maybe they have to throw
Speaker 1: it to create some running lanes. Um, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough day. I mean, you know, early in
Speaker 1: the season you would have said this would be a
Speaker 1: game that that the Bucks would be favorite in. But
Speaker 1: I really like the way the Jets are playing and um,
Speaker 1: and I think they match up, you know well for
Speaker 1: them against Tampa Bay. Lastly, Wreck, what kind of performance
Speaker 1: do you expect from the Buccaneers this team coming off
Speaker 1: a beat down in New Orleans and sitting at this
Speaker 1: point halfway through their season, nowhere close to where they
Speaker 1: expected to be, do you expect them to come out
Speaker 1: with an inspired effort. I don't know, it's a great question. Um,
Speaker 1: I wish I had a better answer. I think that
Speaker 1: you know, this is gonna be a real tell for
Speaker 1: these guys, because you know, when you remove the carrot,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, certainly if they had one last week,
Speaker 1: even at three and four, with a win over the Saints, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, they could have probably seen a change of
Speaker 1: attitude and a chance maybe to get back in the division.
Speaker 1: Now that seems to be removed. So I mean, really
Speaker 1: you're talking about you know, guys, you're gonna find out
Speaker 1: who's gonna fight, And um, I think that you know,
Speaker 1: they have good leadership in the locker room, but look,
Speaker 1: when you lose that many games in a row, you
Speaker 1: think they can't you know, can't lose five and early,
Speaker 1: can't lose six and row. Well, it happens that way.
Speaker 1: I watched the team will lose ten in a row
Speaker 1: after four and to start so losing the guests losing
Speaker 1: and and right now, there's nothing positive that has happened
Speaker 1: other than you know, and this could be a mixed blessing.
Speaker 1: They're at home and they played better at home. Um,
Speaker 1: they couldn't play worse on the road, but they played
Speaker 1: better at home. And I think that, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a chance, just a chance that knowing that you know,
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing, um, that they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: play big in all three phases to help their quarterback,
Speaker 1: which I should have been doing all along. Um, they
Speaker 1: might actually have a decent game as a team, and
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna take for him. So I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to coming back to the pirate ship. Rec Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for your analysis, and uh we'll continue to
Speaker 1: check out your coverage the Tampa Tops. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: great having you look for good stuff. From Rick Stroude
Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay Times. Um, Green's defensively right now,
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are scuffling, but The thing that Stroud said
Speaker 1: to us that stands out to me is Lavante David
Speaker 1: is a guy to keep your eyes on Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: before we wrap up here. E A. But you didn't
Speaker 1: do it last week. We had a short week. I
Speaker 1: didn't ask you. I switched up the question. What's the
Speaker 1: age matchup this weekend? I would say it's going to
Speaker 1: be the Jets defense, the line against the Buccaneers offensive line.
Speaker 1: Rick Stroud talked about it at a length. This is
Speaker 1: a team dealing with injuries up front. They haven't been
Speaker 1: able to consistently get pushed. The Jets every week is
Speaker 1: you know haul Greens. They say in the locker room
Speaker 1: they want to make teams one dimensional. Well, so far
Speaker 1: this season, Tampa has really been one dimensional because they
Speaker 1: have not been able to get Doug Martin going from
Speaker 1: what scene and what the stats indicate. And if you
Speaker 1: make Ryan Fitzpatrick one dimensional, even though he has weapons,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awfully difficult for this Buccaneers offense against
Speaker 1: the Jets defense. And that's the one thing Rick Stroud
Speaker 1: pointed out was that the matchup for the Jets defense
Speaker 1: is extremely favorable. I'm gonna switch the side of the
Speaker 1: ball here. I'm curious to see what happens for the
Speaker 1: Jets ground game. Last week a nine four yards on
Speaker 1: the ground, Calvin Beecham said, should have been two hundred
Speaker 1: or to fifty. So we'll see how they're able to
Speaker 1: execute against the defense. No, you're right, this is somewhat
Speaker 1: of a homecoming from Blah blah blah. It is Lakeland, Florida,
Speaker 1: not too far away from Tampa. All right, there you
Speaker 1: have it. Man. Maybe he runs wild this Sunday, hopefully
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