1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Like game on the world. You played to win the 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: game a Jet Touchdown. Get your listening to the Official 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Jets podcast Jets three sixty production, Jets Nation. What's going on? 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen back in studio for the 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Official Jet Podcast Game for the Jets Box This Sunday, 6 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: e A Greens Are you feeling good rested? I was. 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you man, yes, the mini by 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: came in clutch. It was nice to have a full weekend. 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Nice to watch sit down on a Sunday, watch some 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: football with no work. I gotta be honest with you. 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: I did not like a lot of the football I 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: saw early one o'clock game. I was missing Jets football. 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: The Dallas Kansas City game was entertaining. But hey, it's 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: time for the Green and White. The get back to 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: work and they're going on the road. And this week 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: on the Game Preview podcast were joined by former Jets 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: and Bucks tight end Anthony Becked, as well as Rick Stroud, 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: who covers the Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times. He 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: actually knows Rick Stroud from his time in Tampa Bay 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: well back in two thousand. I started my NFL career 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: in the pr department on the Buccaneers. Tony Dungee was 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: the head coach, uh Rod Marinelli, defensive line coach Love 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: Smith defensive backs coach, and future Jets head coach Herman 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Edwards was a secondary coach. And did you know that 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: when Herman Edwards went up to New York and took 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: the job here with the Jets, the guy who was 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: replaced by Mike Tomlin, future head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: So that's all the Tony Dungee tree. But yes, Rick 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: Stroud has been covering the Buccaneers for a long time 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: and I got a chance to interact with him on 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: a few occasions as I was just a young buck 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: coming up in Tampa. No pun intended there. I d 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: a the Jets good game last Thursday week night against 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the Bills, now four or five all right, outstanding game 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: thirt went over the Bills. Though, moving forward to this week, 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: the Jets a little rested with this mini buy right, 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: what do they need to accomplish off the field in 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: order to win this game on Sunday? Well, I just 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: think you gotta keep a similar mindset. I think Todd 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: Bowlis has said, these guys ready to play for each 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: of the nine contests so far in two thousand and seventeen. 42 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Jermaine Curse corrected me on Inside the Jets the other day, 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: actually corrected Bart Scott, and you can listen to that 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: an official Jets podcast as well. He said, you know, 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: I think from the beginning of this season, you know, 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: we've had that type of confidence. Um, the first game 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: against Buffalo has been was the first game a lot 48 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: of us even played with each other. When I was 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: talking to a lot of people, I would ask him, ill, 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: how long have you been on the team, And some 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: of them was like, I just got here March. And so, 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, the more and more people I have asked, 53 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this team is like really brand new, 54 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: and whether they were young or they just got here. 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: So that first those first two games, we were kind 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: of just figuring out who we were, you know, and 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: just figuring out what's our team identity, what are is 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: our standards and you know, kind of learning about accountability 59 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: and sacrificing. So but as far as confidence wise, it 60 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't think there was any lack of it. Right 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: now for the Jets, it's to become a more consistent 62 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: team Josh McCown has said, we haven't really played a 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: complete game. We've shown flashes. But for now the Jets, 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: they just got to be more consistent because you look 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: at their seasons so far as been a season of streaks. 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: You lose to you win three, you lose three, now 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: you win one, and now you're looking to go on 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: another winning streak. And this is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 69 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: team greens that is struggling mightily two and six, and 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: they will be without a couple of their top performers 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Jamis Winston shut down with a shoulder injury 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: and Mike Evans suspended for one game after shoving Saints 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: cornerback Marshawn Lattimore. He got suspended by the NFL. He 74 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: appealed it, it was upheld. He won't play Sunday. In turn, 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: this is where the Bucks have left. Ryan Fitzpatrick will 76 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: start for the Buccaneers. Obviously, Jets fans are familiar with him. 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: To Shawn Jackson, the speedy receiver formerly of the Eagles 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: and the Redskins. First year in Tampa, he slides into 79 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: the one, Chris Godwin, Adam Humphries. Those are the guys 80 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: in the receiving corps. Then you got a pair of 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: tight ends who will touch on with Anthony Becked and 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: Cameron brad and rookie O J. Howard. Ryan Fitzpatrick is 83 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna give you some opportunities to make some plays on 84 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: a football. A lot of pre snapper reeds from fits 85 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: Um and he's gonna try to get the ball quickly. 86 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna have an opportunity to 87 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: get there seven times because he likes to release that 88 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: ball quickly. But we're talking tight ends. And I also 89 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: gotta think about Doug Martin because when you look at Tampa, 90 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: I think there is a mismatch of in the Jets favor, 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: especially up front. Their role line a little bit banged 92 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: up against the Jets defensive line that's starting to um 93 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: feel itself so to speak. You know, they are playing 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: with some confidence. I think Mohammed Wokerson has had his 95 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: best stretch of the season. Leonard Williams continues to be 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: stout against the Ron. He got into the sick department 97 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: as well. And I just think that there's a good 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: mojo upfront for the Jets and they have a clear 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: advantage against Tampa. If you're a fan of storylines, obviously 100 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: has no implication on the games with this weekend is 101 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: full of them. You know about Fitzpatrick, Josh McCown going 102 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: back to Tampa where he spent the two thousand and 103 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: fourteen season where oh, by the way, Austin Safari and 104 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: Jenkins was drafted. So if you didn't know that they 105 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: were familiar with each other before this year, check out 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: Jets flight plan on Sunday because you sat down with 107 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: a s J shout down with Jimmy Johnson tight Ends 108 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: coach and Josh McCown for an in depth look. So 109 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: be sure to look for that nice plug. Nice plugs. 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: I will tell you this is the third consecutive year 111 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: that Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown have faced each other 112 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: in a regular season. Let's dial up our feature guests. 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Let's bring in Anthony back to where's a number of hats? 114 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: You actually live in Tampa. The Jets are coming down 115 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: to face the Buccaneers this week, and you actually are 116 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: employed by both organizations? Is that true? Yeah, you know 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it's a good deal because who 118 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: has more information about two teams that are playing each 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: other than me. So I know these guys fairly watch 120 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: them studium and uh against two teams. In my opinion, 121 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: even though they do uh they do uh promote me 122 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: on both sides are going in different directions. Why is 123 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: that happening, Anthony? You know, I'll tell you it comes. 124 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: It's a lot of things. I mean, number one, offensively, 125 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, when you have a team that's been put 126 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: together with the star or uh you know, really paper 127 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: star power like the Buccaneers, you have high expectations. Unfortunately, 128 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: that ship is driven by your quarterback. And I think 129 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: right now Jamis Winston. Uh he's got a little bit 130 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: of a shoulder thing going on that he's dealing with. 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: But you know, for me, Eric, you know when when 132 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: when players are on the field and they're playing and 133 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: they're injured, if you can't do what you can do 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: and do it to the best of your ability to 135 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: help the team, then you shouldn't be out there. But 136 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: if you're all on the field, then you you've got 137 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: to be able to live up and play up to 138 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: the expectation level to make sure that that team has 139 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: enough to win on the field. And right now, you 140 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: know it's Jamis is accuracy right now is an issue. Uh, 141 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, his ability to you know, throw the ball 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: down the field has not been consistent. Sean Jackson should 143 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: have ten touchdowns this year on deep balls and we 144 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: haven't connected one of them yet. So it's been a 145 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: frustrating deal with this offense. Again, weapons would where a 146 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: lot of star power, but the production on the field 147 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: has been minimal, at least from the offense endpoint. Anthony, 148 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: You've been saying that the Bucks have not put together 149 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: a complete performance on offense. What have you seen out 150 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: of Mike Evans, who's highly regarded as a potential top 151 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: three receiver in the league right now? Now, you're right. 152 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, statistically this year you wouldn't say that, but 153 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: he's open. You know, he's still winning routes. Uh. Last 154 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, he's been as dominant as 155 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: any receiver in the league. It's an excellent matchup, you know. 156 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, Mike has a lot of advantages on his side, 157 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: and he's got great length, great speed. Uh, you know, 158 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: his his reachable catch radius, it's huge. It's tough for 159 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: defensive backs, even you know, bigger guys like Claiborne, and 160 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: they just have problems with him because you know, he's 161 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: able to kind of go get footballs where a lot 162 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: of receivers can't get them. But unfortunately, right now they 163 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, cannot find ways to get him to football 164 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: down the field in productive places for him to be 165 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: a game changer. And you know with the after she 166 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: issues in the quarterback situation and that that's been tough. 167 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: But he is as deadly and dangerous as any humor 168 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: in the league. He's someone you have to deal with. 169 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: We just can't find ways to get the ball. Then 170 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: how do you how do you prevent an implosion down there? 171 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: Because you know it, You've been part of teams that 172 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: have struggled before. There's two ways of going right now. 173 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: You can either pack up the tents and say, hey, listen, 174 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I do and not worry about 175 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: the team. Or you guys can come together and they 176 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: can start playing better football, the kind of football that 177 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: everybody expected from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers before the two 178 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen season started. You know, you would like 179 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: to say the latter that these guys could galvanize together 180 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: and and you know, you've got so much talent. There's 181 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: enough talent there that you don't have to be great 182 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: every week. You just gotta be good and execute properly. 183 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: And they haven't been able to do that. So, uh, 184 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, listen, this this is a tough matchup. You know, listen, 185 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: the Jets are are they laughed the start out, There's 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: no question about it. But they will punch you in 187 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: the mount and they will fight you for four quarters. 188 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: And the more AMMO you feed them as far as 189 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: telling them they're gonna lose every game before the season 190 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: or they're not good enough where they can't do this 191 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: or that, the more they respond, and that team is galvanized. 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: And you look at the Buccaneers at two and six 193 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: and then you come off as you know, the same 194 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: scheme where you have some other things. I mean, everybody 195 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: in the media is talking about a sideline issue and 196 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: fighting and pushing and shoving outside of the game of football. 197 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: That's never a good thing for an organization. So, uh, 198 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: can they do it? Yeah? Do they have the guys 199 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: that do it? Absolutely? There's no signs right now that 200 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: showed me that. And unfortunately, with eight games left and 201 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback that's injured, I don't know where you turn 202 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: right now, but hopefully for the latter they can turn 203 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: things around and become a team that can finish strong 204 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: over the last eight games. Well, I want to talk 205 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: about the Jets here in just a second, but you've 206 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: been on twitter ed Anthony Becked saying that Winston's accuracy 207 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: continues to be a problem. You men, send it here 208 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: earlier in the podcast. What about his maturity, Anthony? You know, 209 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know, the first one in the building, 210 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: the last one out, the guy that works the harvest. Uh, 211 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the guy that does everything you want from an organizational 212 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: standpoint is Jameis Winston. And you know what, Jamison, you 213 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: can used to have to prove himself because of the 214 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: things obviously coming out of college. And then you know 215 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: off the field, and he's been eight plus off the field, 216 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: there's still a question about it. He's done everything you 217 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: could want within the community support. Uh, just very top end. 218 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: And then though there's the thing that rubs merong because 219 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm a guy that I'm old school and and and 220 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm always watching actions and and and constantly seeing how 221 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: players are. And you know, in this league, it's a 222 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: younger league, there's a lot of outside things that can 223 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: be pulled in as distractions. And you know when I 224 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: saw Jamis u in the set on the sideline in 225 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: the same game, and I'm thinking to myself, a day's 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: points finger And then he goes and he starts poking 227 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: a Lattimore, a Lottimore in the back, and I'm thinking, Okay, 228 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: what are you doing. You know you're out of the game. Uh, 229 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're no longer part of what this team 230 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: to team can do at the present time. And you're 231 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: coming on the off the field onto the playoff silding, 232 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: you're doing those kind of things. And I'm thinking with 233 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, with Josh McCown, with Drew Brees, with Marcus Mariotta, 234 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: do that and you know, instigate something silly like that. 235 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: And it wasn't even a time, guys, even if it 236 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: was being funny, you're down four touchdowns. I don't think 237 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: anybody was smiling at that time. So and then it 238 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: pulls in Mike Evans. You know, he probably touches the 239 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: back game when Lattimore pushes him, and he puts a 240 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: cheap shot in on Lattimore. So it just loves a 241 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: book good. But it starts with the quarterback, and you 242 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: go back to is he mature? Well, he has, he 243 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: showed me, show me everything, and the fact that he's 244 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: been mature as a quarterback. But then you see something 245 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: like that and you're thinking, why why are you going there? 246 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: Why are you even attempting to to to to put 247 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: a shot at your personality or all the things you've 248 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: worked so hard to do for something simple like that 249 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: that you probably did think was a big deal. But 250 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: we all know the cameras always on you. Man, everybody 251 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: sees him. Now you're a headline on Sports Center and 252 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with your football ability. So 253 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. Hopefully we've never see it again. Guys, Yeah, 254 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: and they haven't been able to establish balance. I like 255 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: Doug Martin as a player, but doesn't seem like there's 256 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: a lot of holes there for him in the run game. 257 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: Let's flip to the Jets side. What do you think 258 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: about the transformation that you've seen from Austin Safari and Jenkins? Man. 259 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you know, I've been I've been speaking with 260 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: him in textinggan since he signed up for the Jets, 261 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: and obviously I I tried to connect with him as 262 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: much as I could in camp. I wanted to help 263 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: this guy, wanted him to be successful because I saw 264 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: the potential when he came out of college, and I 265 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: know he had to Michis and he needs to be guided. 266 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: And at that point in Austinsperian Jenkins life in Tampa, 267 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, he was saying all the right things to me, 268 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: but we he never took the time to embrace the 269 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: help and listen and get together and under stand and 270 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: learn what it takes to be a pro and then 271 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: be Quite honestly, I don't know how much he loved 272 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: the game when he was a Champa for whatever reason 273 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: that might have been, whether he was young, whether they 274 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: you know, just didn't like his situation or whatever it was, 275 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: and it just never came together. And then obviously he 276 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: had some ups and downs off the field bowl those things. Obviously, 277 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: it takes sometimes changeing a person to realize what they have. Unfortunately, 278 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: takes a pour mistake for them to realize, you know, 279 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: what they have in front of him. And I think 280 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: he's a perfect example of that. You know, Austin to 281 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: me is a is a guy that you know when 282 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: I talked to him. Now, different demeanor, football is important 283 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: to him. Uh. You know, he's gone to a team 284 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: where he feels like he's being embraced and utilized in 285 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: the winning games, and you know, he's having some success 286 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: and he's got a long road ahead of him. I mean, 287 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: let's be honest, guys. You know, he's still got to 288 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: put his footprint down as a guy to be accountable 289 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: every week. Uh. You know, if you go out in 290 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: the few to be a Titan, that could be dominant 291 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: his position. But I think right now what he's doing 292 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: is keeping taking every opportunity has had so far and uh, 293 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, rewarding the Jets number one for taking a 294 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: chance on him and giving great play and consistently now 295 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: showing that he can do it, you know, weekend and 296 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: week out basis. And you know, listen, it's a it's 297 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: a one year kind of proving deal. I mean, you know, 298 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: there's there's no long term uh fulfillment with the Jets 299 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: for him. He has to prove himself every single game 300 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: to show that he's worried to stay with them moving 301 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: forward after this season. So he goes that. You know, 302 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: he understands that, and you know, he's just glad that 303 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: he's got this one opportunity, so I'm hoping that it 304 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: continues to work out for him. I mean, listen, he's 305 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: wearing eighty eight, so obviously I gotta the tie there. 306 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Don't just give that number way, right, Guys that you 307 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: know do some fine a come through that door. And 308 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: he's got an expectation level to live up to. Anthony 309 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Becks here on the Official Jetz Podcast. Anthony, knowing both 310 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: teams as well as you do, what do you think 311 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: that the Jets formula for successes this weekend? Well, you know, listen, 312 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: they have some undersized guys on the edges on defense 313 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: right now because of the injuries and and lack of 314 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: guys being able to kind of set the edge and 315 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: and and that's an issue. I mean that that that's 316 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: glaring on tape. That's something that that's not going to 317 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: be a secret um. The secondary has been has been 318 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of an up and down story. You know, 319 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Brent Grimes has been off and on injury. He's by 320 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: fall All dels Loft down corner when he's on the 321 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: field for a different team in the secondary. But he 322 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: didn't play last week, and you know, his status is 323 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: still up in the air. And even if he is 324 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: on the field, you know how healthy it see. So 325 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: I think you know, when you look at what this 326 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: defense brings, it brings a lot of inconsistent play. You know, listen, guys, 327 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: this is the defense that was built in the off 328 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: season that needed all eleven players on the field and 329 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,119 Speaker 1: healthy that started the season to be good, to be maunageable, 330 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: to be able to do the things he wants to do. Unfortunately, 331 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: they've had a fixed bag of injuries. It's been off 332 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: and on. Guys have been on in and out, and 333 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: it hasn't been the way they wanted to draw it up. 334 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: And they've got a kind of sugarcoat and kind of 335 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: hide and disguise some of their weaknesses. So I'd say 336 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: the most glaring thing for me is attacking the edges. 337 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: And you know, when you talk about the Jets and 338 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: what they have, you know, four K probably isn't the 339 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: premier edge guy, but you know, bout pound, why are 340 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: those guys mixed game a little playoffs? And really what 341 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: they've been doing, it's going to be even probably more 342 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: effective when you're looking at what the weaknesses are. Yeah, 343 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: the Jets gotta feel awfully confident coming into this game, 344 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: and I think Todd Bowls will continue to take the 345 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: proper approach of Hey, listen, there isn't no time to 346 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: rest on your laurels just because you beat the Buffalo 347 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: Bills in your four and five. But you're right about 348 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers lack of being successful and setting that edge. 349 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: The Jets just rushed for nearly two yards against the 350 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: Bills team that entered the ball game Thursday night, right 351 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: number three in the National Football League against the run. 352 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: And then you got Josh McCown who's spreading the ball 353 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: around to everybody. We mentioned Austin's Varion Jenkabs before, Jermaine Curis, 354 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: Robby Anderson continues to develop as a receiver, and uh, 355 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: you really can't focus in on one guy with this 356 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: Jets offense. That's the beauty of it. Conversely, what do 357 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: you like best about the Jets defense right now? A 358 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: lot of folks are talking about those rookie safeties and 359 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 1: they're playing really well. How about Da Mario Davis and 360 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: Darrently in the middle. A lot of people thought that 361 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: middle linebacker uh spot was suspect for the Jets before 362 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: the season, but they're coming on. And then Mohammed Wokerson 363 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: has had his best three weeks in two thousand and seventeen, 364 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: back to back to back. Here entering the ball game 365 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: against Tampa and the Jets had only eleven sex entering 366 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: the game against the Bills and they come down with seven. Well, 367 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: I think the trend is e gradually game one heading up. 368 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: Not a lot of gets and valleys, and that's what 369 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: you want. And you you know, again, I was talking 370 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: to uh one of the coaches up before the game 371 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: and the sacks like where are there? Early on you 372 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: would see Darren Ly you know, hit the wrong holes, 373 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: not being the right gaps, Jamal Adams coming down in 374 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: the wrong gaps, and all of a sudden, you know, 375 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: after the Raiders game, when they kind of got hit 376 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: in the mouth again of the Run game, that's when 377 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: they started. You know, they see what's going on on 378 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: film and they're able to be better at it and improve. 379 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: And that's the best thing. You love, you you love 380 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: to see a guy like Darren Lee can improve this 381 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: game because he's it, you know, n't it. I didn't 382 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: hit it, I got blocked here, I got pantake there, 383 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: But he wasn't in the right spot. He wasn't doing 384 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: the you know, playing with intense within the defensive toples 385 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: is calling and then all of a sudden, then the 386 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: right spots coming into this season. If you were to 387 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: ask anybody on the judge that you wanted to see, 388 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: what would you say, Well, you know, yeah, you'd love 389 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: to see win, but you want to see young players 390 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: progress and get better and stuck. You know what. These 391 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: things were proving that they could be good. And these 392 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: guys today and I think the most important thing with 393 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: this Church team is is this guys are getting skills, 394 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: are putting drives together. So now not only are you 395 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: being efficient, but this season was very an eyeball just 396 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: what guys could stick and what guys can do it. 397 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: And you're seeing when you can fine ten play drives 398 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: on offense, you're sending out about lineman, you're finding all 399 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: about down receivers, youse, guys are getting reps after reps 400 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: after rest. Well, now you can figure out okay or 401 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: these the pieces that are important to build the jets 402 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: moving forward. And I think that's the differest thing. The 403 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: reps that guys are gaining that are are important. Vallot reps, 404 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: situational reps, fourth quarter reps where the team is in 405 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: the game, what do you win to lose? You build 406 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: in every game. You're finding out so much information about 407 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: the current roster that that is going to pay huge dividends. 408 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: Because if you just look right across the street with 409 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: the Giants, you know they're playing some turnical ball and 410 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: you're not able to get anything going to getting. You 411 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: can't know from Luptick or young guys playing well because 412 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: they're not getting defining plays in a game that's completely 413 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: the opposite of what the Jets are getting. So not 414 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: only are they learning on the rum with young players, 415 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: they're getting meaningful plays and reps that go with and 416 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: nothink to me, that's placeless for organizations of maybe didn't 417 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: think this is going to be as good or maybe 418 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, and now all of a sudden, 419 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: then you know you potenitions befinde in the Thickett things, 420 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: pushing for a back in wild card spot and still 421 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: getting growth and learning with some of your young players. 422 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: This guy is excited. Anthony Beck is excited about this 423 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Jets team who has an opportunity to go five in 424 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: five this week when they traveled down to the Gulf 425 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: down there to Tampa against a struggling Buccaneers team. Uh 426 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: Anthony back to wear's multiple hats worked for us during 427 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: the preseason, still doing some pregame radio on the Jets. 428 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Radio and Network does a lot down there with the 429 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization has a radio show down in 430 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: Tampa as well. And then last but not least, you're 431 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoons or Saturday evenings each and every week 432 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: for ESPN doing color commentary. Last week you saw Auburn 433 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: take a part, uh Texas A and I'm at Kyle Field. 434 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: But you're all over the country. So who is the 435 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy favorite at this time? Is that Baker Mayfield? 436 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Man goes to the best player in the country? Um Man. 437 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you know, I put a top five out 438 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: every week and you know, to me, you know, the 439 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: best player in my opinion, see kuon Barkley. And you 440 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: know I always look at things always for looking forward, 441 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: also because I like to tie in everything with what 442 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: are these guys going to do in the NFL? Like 443 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: are these guys NFL players? Can they play? And I 444 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: just think all around when you're looking at the best 445 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: player to me. That springs so much to the cable 446 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: that's at Anthony Back former Jets tight End, former bucking 447 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: Eers tight and he works for both organizations. He's also 448 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: doing a very good work for ESPN. We're watching him 449 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoons, and I like whoever is doing your 450 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: little caricatures as well. I'm I like all those little graphics. 451 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: I need a couple of people here to help me 452 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: with some graphics myself. I liked us, love the engagement 453 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: being on the show. Talk to you guys, and every 454 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks the New York Now, it's always a pleasure. 455 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: We'll see you Sunday, buddy, all right, man, see later. 456 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: All right. That was great stuff from Anthony Backs, who 457 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: you said were as many hats and you could see 458 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: that he does. I think he fell college and you 459 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: have to watch him on Saturdays on ESPN. You know me, 460 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: monster college. Anthony has been fantastic and he did a 461 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: great job for the organization here after Marty Lions suffered 462 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: this stroke doing color commentary on ESPN Radio with Bob 463 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: was Shusan. He does a lot of work down there 464 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: in Tampa. He lives down in Tampa with the Buccaneers 465 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: and then on college football. I think his analysis has 466 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: been spot on and he's really grown and I'm really 467 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: happy for his success. Now it's time to turn the 468 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: page because Jets bucks football this Sunday. This is the 469 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: first out of four games that they'll be without Jeremy Curley, 470 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: who was suspended by the NFL earlier this week. He's 471 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: eligible to return to practice December eleventh, will be back 472 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: against the Saints. So intern coach was obviously asked, all right, 473 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: what's the plan here and involves a pair of rookies. Well, yeah, 474 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: and it's something that I think you're gonna write about 475 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: this week, is that our Darius Stewart and Chad Hansen 476 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: gonna get more reps. Curse has said, I always talked 477 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: to Chad talking about I need to see he went 478 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: to Cows. I'll always give him crap about being another 479 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: Pack twelve team and how we used to smack them 480 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: all the time. But um, I always tell him, I'm like, man, 481 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: I want to see your swag bag. And you know 482 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: they've been doing a great job. They've been working on 483 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: their craft. Um, each and every day I've been trying 484 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: to talk. I've been talking to him, make myself available 485 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: for them any any chance that they need help or anything, 486 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: any questions. Um, So we just look forward them to 487 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: just step up. I mean, it's the next man up 488 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: and we're gonna need them in these next couple of games. 489 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm looking forward to watching them play. Now. 490 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: The catches have not been there for Hanson and Stewart yet, 491 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: but the reps are there and that's important to get 492 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: game rops. So what do you expect from the rookie receivers? Well, 493 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: just real quick, you mentioned getting reps against the Bills 494 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: last week, Hanson play of offensive snaps. Stewart played something 495 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: else that that we should keep an eye on on Sunday. 496 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: Is who's going to be the punt returner for this team? 497 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: It was Curly and then Eli McGuire stepped in in 498 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: his place. Coach was asked, Hey, is it gonna be Eli? 499 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: He said, I don't know yet. He wasn't ready to commit, 500 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: was he? And another interesting thing as we sit here 501 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: is he was leaving the options open for the club 502 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: to possibly sign another receiver from hold, somebody from the 503 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: practice squad. But you asked me what I expect out 504 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: of these receivers, and I don't I'm not quite sure, 505 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but I'm excited to see 506 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: how they play because they've been able to take a 507 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: back seat throughout the first nine weeks of the season, 508 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: get implemented here and there. And coach said a couple 509 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: of weeks ago when he was asked about these guys, 510 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: he said, listen, they're gonna get their shots later on 511 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: in the season. I don't think he knew about curly suspension, 512 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: but hey, he's true. I mean what he said ended 513 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: up being true. You'll feel bad for you feel bad 514 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: for Jeremy kurr Um. And he's been a valuable piece 515 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: to this offense, especially on third down. Who's m accounts 516 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: go to guy? Because early on in the season, third 517 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: and seven, he was going curly freight third and six. 518 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: He's going to curly for seven. But you are getting 519 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: valuable reps for a third and fourth round draft picks. 520 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: How about the Buccaneers this week? You mentioned off the 521 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 1: bat here that no Mike Evans. What does that mean 522 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: for the Shawn Jackson? I think we should check in 523 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: with Rick Stroud. All right, Greens, let's bring in Rick 524 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Stroud from the Tampa Bay Times. Rick. When I first 525 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: met you, it was way back in two thousand, I 526 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: was a pr intern for Reggie Roberts and the Tampa 527 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers And it was Rick Stroud who worked for 528 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: the St. Pete Time. Yeah. Yeah, I was a newspaper, 529 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: a goo um her name sat Paper St. Pete Rutter 530 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: as it turns out. But unfortunately, um, you know, a 531 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: couple of years after that, they won the Super Bowl 532 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 1: and they they've been trying to get back to win 533 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: a playoff game and really trying to get back to 534 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it's taking them a decade and it 535 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: doesn't look like this will be their year. What has 536 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: been the most pressing issues for a team who a 537 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: lot of people thought before the season was gonna be 538 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: an NFC self contender, definitely a playoff team or a 539 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: team that would be in the mix late in the year. 540 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: And here they are sitting at the midway point, scuffling 541 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: with the two and six record. Yeah, and you can 542 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: start with the expectations. I mean, I think there was 543 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: a lot of hype about this team. You know, a 544 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: lot of teams that win the off season don't do well. Um, 545 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: I think you know, they won nine games a year ago, 546 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: but had not really gotten into the postseason before. Um, 547 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: there's some I think, truth you'll never be able to 548 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: measure this that maybe they got over their skis because 549 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that's happened, I think you want to 550 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: break it all kind of down. Um, you know, this 551 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: was a two and one football team that lost to 552 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: the Patriots on Thursday night nineteen to fourteen. They had 553 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: the ball, uh you know, on the e t yard 554 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: line and through what in the end zone the game 555 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: was over, had some kicking issues at that juncture, and 556 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: then Jamis Winston got hurt. And he got hurt in Arizona, 557 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: they had a terrible first half, but nonetheless, uh you know, 558 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: fitz magic Fitzpatrick brought him back a little bit. They 559 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: lost that game was out of hand when he when 560 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: he came in down twenty four and nothing. But I 561 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: don't think Jamis Winston has been right. Uh you know, 562 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: he had one good half in in Buffalo and they 563 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: should have probably won that game. But if you look 564 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: at it, they're owing four since he got hurt. They've 565 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: scored nine points in the first half combined of all 566 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: those games. And I think when your quarterback is not 567 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: sort of playing at the level that you need him to. 568 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: It affects other parts of your game. But I think 569 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: all of it sort of runs downhill, you know, when 570 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: that player is not the guy you need him to be. 571 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: How does this offense change, not only with fits, but 572 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: with the suspension of Mike Evans, assuming that's upheld, well, 573 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: that that's a big loss. And you know, and Jamie's 574 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: played the biggest role in that as well, because you know, 575 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: he was out of the game last week in New 576 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: Orleans and got into an altercation actually, you know, put 577 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: his hands on one of the defensive backs and that's 578 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: all Mike Evans saw and came and came to defend 579 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: his quarterback, but did it in a in a perverse 580 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: way when you know, plowed into the back of the 581 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: blindside and so he's out. And that's not gonna hurt 582 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: that's not gonna help rather h Fitzpatrick. But you know, Ryan, 583 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: Ryan will run the offense. He's very capable and I 584 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: think they have a lot of confidence in him from 585 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: a team standpoint, but everyone else and it might be 586 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: a good thing for the Bucks because I ain't you know, 587 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: in some ways this team felt prey to just sort 588 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: of waiting for the quarterback to you know, to make 589 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: a play and get them out of first and twenty 590 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: and get them out of you know, jams on defense 591 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: and and and all those things. So it'll look different. 592 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: But then again, um, you know, there might there might 593 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: be some some good to it as well. Does it 594 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: become a more tight end centric offense? Camera Bray extremely 595 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: prolific as far as getting into the end zone. He 596 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: was such a red zone force with Winston and then O. J. 597 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: Howard developing tight end. Do you think with Evans out 598 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: of the lineup, maybe the focus goes a little bit 599 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: towards there and maybe more toward the middle of the field. 600 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: I talked to somebody in Tampa earlier this week who 601 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: said de Sean Jackson is getting open. They just haven't 602 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: got the ball to him. He easily could have a 603 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: few long scoring touchdowns this year. Unfortunately for him, his 604 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: numbers just haven't done there. Yeah. Well, first of all, 605 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: the tight ends they have gone with a lot of 606 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: that type of personnel anyway, And I think you're right that, 607 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, Chris Godwin's gonna step in and uh, you 608 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: know for Mike Evans and and he's a capable kids 609 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: site around pick that look great in training camp and 610 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: whenever he's been called on. He's a big receiver himself, 611 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: not not as you know, certainly as as taller, as 612 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: established as you know it's Mike Evans. But um, you 613 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: know they'll look for those matchups and I think they'll 614 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: have to use the tight ends to to help their 615 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: left tackle. I mean Donovan Smith, I don't know if 616 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna play this game. He had never missed a 617 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: snap until he had to come out of the game 618 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: with a knee injury last week. That means Kevin Pample, 619 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: who's a guard, and we'll move over to left tackle. Um, 620 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: you know you'll have a new guard, so sort of 621 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: a you know, Ryan is going to have to get 622 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands quick. Um. That that 623 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: certainly plays the New Year theory about the tight ends. 624 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: I think you'll see the running backs get more involved 625 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: in the passing game at times. Um, but they will. 626 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: He'll spread the ball around and um, you know they've 627 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: they've really tried to keep those two tight ends on 628 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: the field as much as possible and uh uh, you know, 629 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: with the protection issues they may face, I'll probably do 630 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: that again on the defensive side of the ball. From 631 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: where I said, I know about Gerald McCoy, I think 632 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Jets fans know about McCoy, But who's 633 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: an important piece of this Bugs defense? And just from 634 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: your point of view, how do you think that this 635 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: unit has performed in two thousands seventeen so far? Well, 636 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: it's been up and down. I mean they've been as uh, 637 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, Mike Smith has said the defensive coordinator like 638 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: a yo yo. I mean they really have. They've They've 639 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: been much better at home. Uh, they've not been very 640 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: good at all on the road. Now, some of that 641 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: is you know, when you're when your offense is going 642 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: three now and you're constantly, you know, out there defending 643 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: the whole field and maybe sometimes less than the whole field, 644 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: that that can make them the numbers look a little skewed. 645 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: But um, look, they don't have anybody on the outside 646 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: that's getting me. A quarterback Robert Ares has had a 647 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: couple of sacks last two weeks. Frankly, they were more 648 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks pulling the ball down in some kind of coverage situations. 649 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Frank Crimes can play. If he can, 650 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: that helps the pass rush because they have a guy 651 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: that can lock into some receivers. Um, the biggest strength 652 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: of this defense right now is their linebackers. And Kwan 653 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: Alexander is still trying to come back. Um, you know, 654 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: he's he's had a couple of games coming off an injury. 655 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: And then Bavonte David has played great for them. I 656 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: mean he missed some games early as well, but he's 657 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: got four force fumbles and I really expect him to 658 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: be a big, big part of any defense they put 659 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: out there early in a week. What do you see 660 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: as far as matchups potentially that the Jets might be 661 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: able to exploit here Sunday, It's kind of interesting. I 662 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: think the matchup of the quarterbacks, let's start there. I mean, 663 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: you've got you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick who was a Jet, 664 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Um Josh McCown who was a Buck, and both guys 665 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: have combined to play for fifteen different football teams, and 666 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: those are the two that they actually sort of intersect 667 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: in terms of franchises they play eight for. So um 668 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: lek Josh McCown, I loved you know when he when 669 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: he was here, such a good guy as his Fitzpatrick. 670 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: But you know, he's freakish athletically, he seems to be 671 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: on a pretty good role. Um, you know, so I'm 672 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: interested to see, you know, in an Austin Sufarian Jenkins, 673 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: the guy the Bucks are premiary with as well at 674 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: tight end. Um, you know those are certainly you know, 675 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: a combination is gonna be to watch. But but but really, 676 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: I think the Jets defense is playing at such a 677 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: high level. I mean what they did the Buffalo was 678 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: was not a mirage, right, I mean that defensive line 679 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: got after some people. Um, the Bucks have played the Bills, 680 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: they know how effective they aren't running the ball. Tyrod 681 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: Taylor can be a handful with his ability to extend plays. 682 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: And I really looked for this Jets defense to, you know, 683 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: to to really sort of you know, try to dominate 684 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: that offensive line that, like I said, will be missing 685 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: Donovan Smith and if the box are unable, uh, you know, 686 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: to to to get the running game going at all, 687 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: whether they have to spread them out or what do 688 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: they have to do and maybe they have to throw 689 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: it to create some running lanes. Um, this is gonna 690 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: be a tough day. I mean, you know, early in 691 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: the season you would have said this would be a 692 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: game that that the Bucks would be favorite in. But 693 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: I really like the way the Jets are playing and um, 694 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: and I think they match up, you know well for 695 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: them against Tampa Bay. Lastly, Wreck, what kind of performance 696 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: do you expect from the Buccaneers this team coming off 697 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: a beat down in New Orleans and sitting at this 698 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: point halfway through their season, nowhere close to where they 699 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: expected to be, do you expect them to come out 700 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: with an inspired effort. I don't know, it's a great question. Um, 701 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: I wish I had a better answer. I think that 702 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, this is gonna be a real tell for 703 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: these guys, because you know, when you remove the carrot, 704 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, certainly if they had one last week, 705 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: even at three and four, with a win over the Saints, Um, 706 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, they could have probably seen a change of 707 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: attitude and a chance maybe to get back in the division. 708 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 1: Now that seems to be removed. So I mean, really 709 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about you know, guys, you're gonna find out 710 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: who's gonna fight, And um, I think that you know, 711 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 1: they have good leadership in the locker room, but look, 712 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: when you lose that many games in a row, you 713 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: think they can't you know, can't lose five and early, 714 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: can't lose six and row. Well, it happens that way. 715 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: I watched the team will lose ten in a row 716 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: after four and to start so losing the guests losing 717 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: and and right now, there's nothing positive that has happened 718 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: other than you know, and this could be a mixed blessing. 719 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: They're at home and they played better at home. Um, 720 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: they couldn't play worse on the road, but they played 721 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: better at home. And I think that, you know, there's 722 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: a chance, just a chance that knowing that you know, 723 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing, um, that they're gonna have to 724 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: play big in all three phases to help their quarterback, 725 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: which I should have been doing all along. Um, they 726 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: might actually have a decent game as a team, and 727 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna take for him. So I'm looking forward 728 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: to coming back to the pirate ship. Rec Thank you 729 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: so much for your analysis, and uh we'll continue to 730 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,959 Speaker 1: check out your coverage the Tampa Tops. All right, guys, 731 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: great having you look for good stuff. From Rick Stroude 732 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay Times. Um, Green's defensively right now, 733 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are scuffling, but The thing that Stroud said 734 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: to us that stands out to me is Lavante David 735 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: is a guy to keep your eyes on Sunday afternoon 736 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: before we wrap up here. E A. But you didn't 737 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: do it last week. We had a short week. I 738 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: didn't ask you. I switched up the question. What's the 739 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: age matchup this weekend? I would say it's going to 740 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: be the Jets defense, the line against the Buccaneers offensive line. 741 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: Rick Stroud talked about it at a length. This is 742 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: a team dealing with injuries up front. They haven't been 743 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: able to consistently get pushed. The Jets every week is 744 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: you know haul Greens. They say in the locker room 745 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: they want to make teams one dimensional. Well, so far 746 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: this season, Tampa has really been one dimensional because they 747 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: have not been able to get Doug Martin going from 748 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: what scene and what the stats indicate. And if you 749 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: make Ryan Fitzpatrick one dimensional, even though he has weapons, 750 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awfully difficult for this Buccaneers offense against 751 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: the Jets defense. And that's the one thing Rick Stroud 752 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: pointed out was that the matchup for the Jets defense 753 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: is extremely favorable. I'm gonna switch the side of the 754 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: ball here. I'm curious to see what happens for the 755 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: Jets ground game. Last week a nine four yards on 756 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: the ground, Calvin Beecham said, should have been two hundred 757 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: or to fifty. So we'll see how they're able to 758 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: execute against the defense. No, you're right, this is somewhat 759 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: of a homecoming from Blah blah blah. It is Lakeland, Florida, 760 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: not too far away from Tampa. All right, there you 761 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: have it. Man. Maybe he runs wild this Sunday, hopefully 762 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: for him staff before we get away. Uh, you know, 763 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: our great contributor in New York Jets dot com and 764 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: many of our platforms, Randy Lank said that with one 765 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: more roun a fifty US yards, BLAA will become the 766 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: first New York Jet to have run for three fifty 767 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: plus gains on the ground in one season. Right now, 768 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: he's got to Will it happens Sunday? You gotta stay tuned. 769 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: Jets bucks Week ten in Florida. Again. The storylines are 770 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,959 Speaker 1: there if you love storylines. Just's Patrick playing against the Jets, 771 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: McCown playing against his former team, a s J playing 772 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: against his former team, and my personal favorite, he a 773 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: returned to the pirate ship and now you have it. 774 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: The Jets Offacial Podcast game preview, Eric Allen, Ethan Greenberg, 775 00:39:34,400 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: Anthony backed Rick Stroud. We'll see you next week. M 776 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: hm s.