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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime. M

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Speaker 1: hm hm welcome back All the Smoke. It's good bro

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Speaker 1: once again a song man. We got a real special

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Speaker 1: guest today, Man Man and many hats Uh, someone that

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Speaker 1: Jack and I both looked up to kind of shaped

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Speaker 1: our teams in early twenties. Man. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Dame Dash, I appreciate you, my brother, thank you for

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Speaker 1: your time. Excuse I was chewning on poor jelly beans

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Speaker 1: because you know I'm diabetic and my my blood sugar.

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Speaker 1: I saw it was good low, Okay, I'm not getting ruled. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The last time that happened, I was on Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 1: It was like, you keep chewing. I'm like, bro, my

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Speaker 1: my my blood shop. I gotta n k. Yeah you go.

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Speaker 1: You know, snoop lay down for two hours right there

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Speaker 1: all day. So you're good. Do what you want, do

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Speaker 1: whatever you need to do. I sho't want to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking to my muffle um. Still doing a

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Speaker 1: lot fatherhood obviously, but what is it. What's the day

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Speaker 1: in the life like for Dame Dash these days? Well,

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Speaker 1: I definitely opened my eyes and see my my little

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Speaker 1: boy and my uh my wife rout, how does your

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Speaker 1: little one? You know, it's at that month thing. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, sixteen and seventeen months, one of those. But um,

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Speaker 1: you know that's what I've been fighting for. You know, publicly,

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Speaker 1: you've been seeing me fight to see my children. And

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Speaker 1: it's funny sometimes people fight while they're triggered to see

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Speaker 1: their kids, but when they get to see their kids,

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Speaker 1: they don't. But I'm actually able with this relationship to

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Speaker 1: raise my and it's the first time and it's been

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Speaker 1: everything that I dreamed it to being more. And what

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Speaker 1: I'm finding is, you know, a child observes what's in

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Speaker 1: front of him. My son, you just watching me all day.

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Speaker 1: So it's important that you're the person. If you want

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Speaker 1: your child to act like you, then you gotta be

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Speaker 1: in front of him. You know these things you can

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Speaker 1: like children are teaching them is that's not the language

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Speaker 1: they learned from so much observing. That's how I learned,

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Speaker 1: and that's how children learned. So I have to make

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Speaker 1: sure always with any of my children moving forward. And

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Speaker 1: I had to get this at fifty. I'm starting late

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Speaker 1: that I have the time and I can art detect

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Speaker 1: my life so that my child can watch me and

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Speaker 1: you can pick up the cool ship and not hear

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Speaker 1: about the bad ship from someone that's been hurt by me.

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Speaker 1: How is it? Though? Again you said doing it at fifty,

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Speaker 1: I don't really believe that I'm fifty, you know, like

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Speaker 1: that young lady around like there, uh, Dominique, she's younger

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Speaker 1: than me, but she acts like she's seventy five. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying no, I just be like, my mentality isn't

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Speaker 1: so young. It's like it's just a more evolved version

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Speaker 1: of who I've been, and the proof of concepts has

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Speaker 1: made me real confident in who I've been so life

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Speaker 1: and fifty is like, I feel like I'm more evolved

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Speaker 1: twenty five year old, you know what I mean? I'm

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Speaker 1: having more fund than I've ever had. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you're young, you have dreams that haven't come true yet.

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Speaker 1: You know, after you become fifty and a lot of

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Speaker 1: your dreams have become realized, we get to enjoy them.

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Speaker 1: So it happens when your dreams come true, is you

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Speaker 1: have more dreams. So right now I have other dreams

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Speaker 1: that are coming true. So what's happening for me now

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Speaker 1: was what I was dreaming about, I'd say about twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago. But now that those have realized themselves, the

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Speaker 1: dreams that I'm dreaming now that are actually coming into

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Speaker 1: fruition or or big, they're actually scared because they've never

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Speaker 1: been done before. There's more elements now, there's more dimensions

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Speaker 1: to play with because you know you've been giving me.

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Speaker 1: We've got a chance to kind of chop it up

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Speaker 1: the past few weeks through a mutual business partner and

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Speaker 1: the ship you've been download me with him, Like damn,

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Speaker 1: we got definitely gotta sit out and just I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: bring pen and paper and just talk. I can't wait,

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Speaker 1: but go were getting some of that a little bit later. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ship is definitely real. Let's talk about your upbringing. Born

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Speaker 1: in New York, Hall m right. I was born in

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Speaker 1: the Bronx, raised in East Halem. But I would say

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Speaker 1: I made my bones in Hall you made your bones

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Speaker 1: and hallm So. I'm from a hundred ninth and first,

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Speaker 1: which is Loving nine. But if you asked me what

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Speaker 1: with your block, I would say it's a hundred forty

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Speaker 1: and Lynx hustle mentality. When get there from the environment,

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Speaker 1: on the set. You know, in hall m it's about

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Speaker 1: getting money and looking good while you getting you know,

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Speaker 1: for me, it wasn't so much about being tough, it

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Speaker 1: was about being fled. I just wanted the girls to

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Speaker 1: which I was able to get, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: be able to control my own destiny. Like for me,

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Speaker 1: it was like I was coming up where to survive

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Speaker 1: you had to live by a certain cold. We got

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Speaker 1: to be cut from a different cloth for a certain cloth,

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Speaker 1: which has been honored before. Everything like unwritten things were laws.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't buy buy them, you were a sucker.

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Speaker 1: And I just came from a family and the bloodline

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Speaker 1: that you know, we just never was suckers. And coming

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Speaker 1: out of that world and surviving it, it makes it

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Speaker 1: hard to ever let a sucker of a plate, especially

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Speaker 1: a sucker from another culture. M I just can't happen.

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Speaker 1: What was your first hustle coming up as against him

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Speaker 1: super Flowers mhm. I mean for me, it was selling

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Speaker 1: crack and the baller shop. I was selling weed in

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Speaker 1: the back of that baller shop. I was a teenager.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize the karmic repercussions of that, but it

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Speaker 1: definitely taught me how to brand, how to have a crew,

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Speaker 1: how to prepare for the future it and just how

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Speaker 1: to be understanding that you can't ask anyone to do

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Speaker 1: something that you're not prepared to do yourself, and you

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Speaker 1: have to lead by example. And also it's important to

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Speaker 1: make your crew rich because that's what protection and that's

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Speaker 1: what you should want. Anyway, Unfortunately, your mom passed from

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Speaker 1: an asthma attack when you was fifteen. Mentally, what did that?

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Speaker 1: What did that do to a fifteen ye old man?

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Speaker 1: Trying to figure it out? Makes your a beast, makes

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Speaker 1: your savage because now you have no fear when the

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Speaker 1: number one thing you're scared of happens and you you

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Speaker 1: could deal with it. You're no longer scared of anything.

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Speaker 1: So it just made me feel less and you know,

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Speaker 1: definitely became something I wasn't too afraid of because it

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Speaker 1: was like ship, if I get killed, I'd be with

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Speaker 1: my mom's MD. At the same time, you was diagnosed

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Speaker 1: with top one daughter beat diabetes, which is why I'm eating.

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Speaker 1: How do you cope with the adjustments with that and

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Speaker 1: being the hustler that you are, so all I know

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Speaker 1: what the option. It's my normal, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: any other life. You've always got jelly beans with you always.

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Speaker 1: It's in case to show it, just like you know

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Speaker 1: what happens prime time, maybe happening catch your bucket, what

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Speaker 1: you get lower. I gotta deal with it, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not mad at it. Those those cards that wore dealt

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Speaker 1: to me are better than most. So all I do

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Speaker 1: is compare what's happened to me to others and how

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Speaker 1: I'm dealing with it. I mean, that's the challenge. Life

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Speaker 1: is a test. That's how you deal with things. Nobody

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Speaker 1: goes through life without a challenge. Doesn't happen that in

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Speaker 1: this vibration? Is it true you sent yourself to board school?

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Speaker 1: We're happening? Was I went to the boys club, Mr Box,

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Speaker 1: and there will be a scholarship for boarding school. I

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Speaker 1: went for like the summer, and I was too homesick

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Speaker 1: before my mother died. Well, my mother died, and my

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Speaker 1: friends went from just you know, fighting and jumping dudes

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Speaker 1: everyone else is doing. And I was like, there's no

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Speaker 1: be doing. So I put myself and said it might

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Speaker 1: be time to exercise that option. I have a bad temper,

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Speaker 1: so I left, and you know, I went to boarding school.

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Speaker 1: So I put myself in boarding school to a scholarship.

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Speaker 1: South Camp played basketball, across in football at the varsity level.

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Speaker 1: But you was like, what's your game? Like every I'm

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Speaker 1: good at everything, man, everybody from hall im say they're

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Speaker 1: good at basketball. Bro Cam Oh, I'm just saying back

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Speaker 1: then you said it was nice. I was just nice

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Speaker 1: to that. I could adjust, you know, I could do.

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Speaker 1: I did my job. I used to beat and I

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Speaker 1: knew how to beat. Somebody. Pause. You could be better

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Speaker 1: than me, but I can still went to jump of handles,

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Speaker 1: all of it. You know. Also mentally I might just remember.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Slice, you would half with

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Speaker 1: his mind of it. I like it. You started managing

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Speaker 1: groups the Future Sound and the Original Flavor. How did

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Speaker 1: you get into that space? Well, Huston didn't seem sustainable,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't want to work at that point. I

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Speaker 1: Howld you at this point the thing paid the fall.

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Speaker 1: I was sixteen, he was in the middle of I

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Speaker 1: was right here. What was the music scene? I don't

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Speaker 1: even remember that time. There was playing at the rooftop

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Speaker 1: and when Nick was playing the Cars whatever Brushy b

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Speaker 1: I was into a lot of rock and roll to remember,

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Speaker 1: the Black Guns. When did you fall in love with

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Speaker 1: music at that time? Always? Music has always been an escape, always,

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Speaker 1: rock and roll and other things live instrumentation. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear about the things I've been trying to escape.

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Speaker 1: It's traumatizing me because it makes me visualize things that

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Speaker 1: feel not positive, and that's when things start to realize

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Speaker 1: themselves not positive. The visual is a very important power

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Speaker 1: that we don't understand. You know, things happen in dimensions.

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Speaker 1: For me levels, I have to think about it first clearly,

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Speaker 1: then I have to put it on paper. Then I

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Speaker 1: have to make it happen. If what I'm visualizing is

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Speaker 1: be negative. So I can't have anything distracted me from

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Speaker 1: anytime I'm thinking about other people's trauma, it makes me

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Speaker 1: visualize their trauma. And then that's the energy that goes

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Speaker 1: into my dreams. And then that's when the dream can

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Speaker 1: turn into a nightmare. You know. That's where fear comes in,

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Speaker 1: and fear stops you from doing things. So I don't

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Speaker 1: might be afraid of to make me stop doing something.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather keep that real estate for the perfect wind.

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Speaker 1: There is no loss. There's a ying and the yang,

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Speaker 1: and everything a dark and the light I can only

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Speaker 1: see the light. The dark is only for me to

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Speaker 1: learn from and not to stay away from. Everything happens

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Speaker 1: to me that's dark is only for something like to happen.

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Speaker 1: black head coaches. I hate the way they treat us there.

425
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: So any coach from the NFL that's black that you

426
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 1: haven't been recognized, you've got a spot over here and

427
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: you will get paid. Give me a little time, but

428
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: it's happening, and it's gonna happen immediately, you know what

429
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Will make sure that that that that the

430
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: players walk away with some some bricks, some real estate,

431
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: with some therapy, with some literacy. They'll know how to

432
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: own a team. Culture. Team don't know how to do

433
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: whatever they want. There's always like, why aren't they prepared?

434
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, there's some sort of preparing, but

435
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: the preparing comes with you gotta act a certain way

436
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: to stay. You know, they'll prepare you to stay by

437
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: acting a certain way. A league with their rules that

438
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: we gotta fit in, and it's our sport, so I'm

439
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: getting at them. I'm not going I don't want to

440
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: be in nobody, no slave league, no disrespect to anybody else.

441
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: I want to be in the Freedom League, you know,

442
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: not the Negro League, the we grow league. So I'm

443
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: starting with football, but it's gonna be every sport, and

444
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you hard in the metaverse and the

445
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: multiverse because I'm savvy there. So this energy isn't anger.

446
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: This is energy for change, and I'm not talking about

447
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: it and complaining. I'm gonna do it. I don't want

448
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: to go to your house. I build my own. We're

449
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: not here for your entertainment. We're here for us to

450
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: be rich black owners. Let's see what that looks like.

451
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: Even in arena football, there ain't no black owners. Even

452
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: in the amateur leagues ain't nowhere. We got to be

453
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: the owners, not the players, or be both. I'm a

454
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: player coach, so even with my network, I don't want

455
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: to be I don't think and like work for somebody

456
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: or and like, I don't want to say slave because

457
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: it offends people. But I can only talking boss. I

458
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: don't want to make a movie. I gotta have a

459
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: movie company. I don't want to make a TV show.

460
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: I gotta have a television network. I don't want a team.

461
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: I want to lead because and if that's because that's

462
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: the case, you know, no one has to come to

463
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: my league. You could stay if you like, but you

464
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: always have the option lead. But you gotta play by

465
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: these rules. We get protected and the value of my

466
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: team is not gonna be the worth of the owner.

467
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: Is gonna be the worth of the players. Period. I'm talking,

468
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: and I gotta plan and and and I ain't talking

469
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: about it. So the first game is in Mississippi, Jacksonville

470
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: and March. First opening game is April two in Tampa, Cyclones.

471
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: It's on. I'm not just talking about it. I don't

472
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: want to fit in. I don't want to fit in.

473
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it at that table. I

474
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: want to see that all. They gotta sit at our table.

475
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: We just have to present an option. So I bet

476
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: you now there'll be a black owner because I'm saying so,

477
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: y'all better get a black owner out there period than

478
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: that ship. One of the first spaces, uh you came

479
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: and kind of creating the new lane was was in music. Um,

480
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: what was it like the first time you heard j

481
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: he wrapped fast? I was impressed by how fast he wrapped,

482
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: But I didn't you know him. I heard a tape

483
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: of him. But when I got to know him, that's

484
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: what I knew. We could get money. You know, he

485
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: was a stone run off the bat. Now he was

486
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: a booking dude that had on night gas and that

487
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: wasn't um. That wasn't happening like Cares. But the funny

488
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: thing is, now I know why. I didn't know why

489
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: back then. I do know why. Now it was so

490
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: crazy to how things happened. But you know, J's o

491
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: G is a count of Klein, and I didn't notice

492
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: from until years later. I always knew that was Og,

493
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: but he used to hang out with my Og Daniel.

494
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: So Jay was acting like Calvin Klein who was being

495
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: influenced by Daniel my Og. So at the end of

496
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: the day, he was influenced by some Hallom ship not

497
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: even knowing it, and that's where that connection happened. He

498
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: just you know, they're getting no disrespect to Brooklyn cats.

499
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: But at that time, I don't know. Now, I ain't

500
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: been in the street in a while. They rather robbed

501
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: the plug then be friends with them. So he was

502
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: different than the stereotypical Brooklyn cat. And you know, he's

503
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: a little rough around. He had just meeting his style

504
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: and the swag I got. Knew if I gave him

505
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: some a little more hall him, he be right. But

506
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: I took a lot of I took a lot of

507
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: ship from my homeboys and the hallum for fucking with

508
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: Jake for a really long time, a whole really long

509
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: time until the cracked. Actually, why they feel like it

510
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: should have been him because he was a Brooklyn He

511
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: wasn't rapping about hustling, m So we got him to

512
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: more or less move towards the hustling aspect. And when

513
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: he started rapping about hustling, that's when my crew started

514
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: their respect him. So when he had said this rapping

515
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: the battle with DMX, and then that's when my cup

516
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: was fucking. Before that, they wasn't working with him at all.

517
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: But soon as he started rapping fast about to getting

518
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: that money, and then we started getting that money, you know,

519
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: so we were like back then. See now it's a

520
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: little different than wrap. The dudes that are actually rapping

521
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: are the ones that are active, right, real active. So

522
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad, honestly, I'm not in rapped anymore right now

523
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: because it would be too dangerous for me. Really, I

524
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't want any of my chose to be a rapper

525
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: right now, to be honest. It comes with a bid,

526
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: bid and the body, you know, and and I hate that,

527
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: I really do. And these kids are rock stars too,

528
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: they got so much swag, but they really they're just

529
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: too real, you know. So back then it wasn't really

530
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: the rapper that was doing the work. It was a

531
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: rapper rapping about the people that were doing the work.

532
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: But it was different about Jay was he was a

533
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: rapper that was actually in the mix as well, so

534
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: that so everything we were doing, he would be talking

535
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: about it live. So if he was pulling up with

536
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: five cars and he's talking about it right then and

537
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: there you see in the movie as he's saying it.

538
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: So that's what made it real. But a lot of

539
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: the ideals of it came from my crew. The best

540
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: out so the champagne and all that other stuff that

541
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: was the best out. What happened is was supposed to

542
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: be the best stout my Harlem creup, but they didn't

543
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: want to listen to me, certain people in my crew,

544
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: so it took some book and casts to really listen

545
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: to the hall. Them guys could be candy at times.

546
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: They argue a lot. We argue all day. Our thing

547
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: is to argue, but never really fight each other. As friends.

548
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: We could like if you see me and my crew,

549
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: you were think, like, I don't even know no dame

550
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: lets niggas talked to him like that. But we're a

551
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: crude you know, to this day we call on the

552
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: four our court right now, we start arguing. You know

553
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's the same ship, you know, and

554
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: I love it. You know, I love it. I actually

555
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: cometimes called my crew just to hear, just kind of

556
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: want to be real and you know, have a level conversation.

557
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: When do you feel like the height of Rockefeller was

558
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: when it was dismembered? Mm hmm. The end of Rocketfeller

559
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: was the height of it. That's why I was so

560
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: confused about it. I was like, what the fuck? You

561
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Rocket Feller will still be rolling,

562
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: but you know. You know again, my feelings on that

563
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: don't matter at this point, and we've all turned out

564
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: to be great, so you know, this is what it is.

565
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: One last thing I want to touch on the space.

566
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: One of my favorite albums, um Jay's First Reasonable Doubt.

567
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: That was the realest one. You know, again, we were

568
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: still active at the time. It was like that was

569
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: us talking about trying not to be active anymore. That

570
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: was the last record that was made while we were active.

571
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: We were active after that. We were too hot, Like literally,

572
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: our friends would get picked up coming off planes, are

573
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: going to shows. They were you know, at some point

574
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I had to tell my friends, don't even if you

575
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: still active, don't even come around. I'm hot. We got

576
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: hot relatively fast in a lot of ways. Recently, Jay

577
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: has shouted you out in a speech at this Rocket

578
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: Roll Hall of Fame, thanked you after all you guys

579
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: have been through um years later. How did that make

580
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: you feel? It was cool, it was good for the culture.

581
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: I was happy for the culture. I was happy about

582
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: how happy it made so many people. How did it

583
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: make you feel? It made me happy that everyone was

584
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: so happy. You know, I'm usually worried about my culture

585
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: so I was like, again, I think that because number one,

586
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: J and I never had a beef. Number one, it

587
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: never it just got made up, or maybe it was

588
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: just leveraged to certain things could happen. And I was

589
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: always confused about that. I'd be like, why did you

590
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: keep saying we're beefing? But I guess you know, it

591
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: was a move. It was a chess move when I

592
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting. So there was always a business thing for Jay.

593
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: He just said, why pay two other people when I

594
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: could just pay one? And that was a vice he

595
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: got from le Or and guys like Steve Stout, and

596
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: he went with that. And you know, on a business level,

597
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: could have been the right move. But on the friendship level,

598
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate. And I don't really care so much

599
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: about this. The friendship me always meant more to me

600
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: than anything. It was beyond his friends. So it was hurtful,

601
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, the business was hurtful. You gotta remember something.

602
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: It was my choice. And that's what people don't understand.

603
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: They asked me not to leave, They mean not to

604
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: leave any of those things. You know. The thing that

605
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: happened with Jay was that he didn't want big is

606
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: to be a part of it anymore, and I wouldn't

607
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: rock with that. So he went his way and me

608
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: and Biggs win ours and how big is you know?

609
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: Seems like he's back over there and I have no

610
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: problems with that. But that's what happened, period. That's it.

611
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: You could ask Biggs and you can ask Jay, may

612
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: not get an answer, but that that was what happened.

613
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: Just was like, yoh, I can't do that the Biggs,

614
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Period? And I was like, yo,

615
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: we could do something different, but Rockefeller is always supposed

616
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: to be us three, no matter what. So he wanted

617
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: to leave Rocket Feller. I was like, cool, but I'm not.

618
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not. I'm not gonna leave it because

619
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: I have a responsibility and obligation to it. I presented

620
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: something to people that believed in me, but I could

621
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: never do it without Biggs. You know what I mean.

622
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you four artists, and that's probably a

623
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: hall of thing. Yeah, I lemtna give you four artists,

624
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: your first impression of each of them first camera. I

625
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't know Cameron as an artist. First, I knew him

626
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: as a friend. He was like a younger dude that

627
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: was to think as Cameron was super nice young you

628
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: know when you're young and you're nice and basketball. I

629
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: remember he had like when the m v P A rocket,

630
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: like fifteen, So he was the cool young dude. And

631
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: I used to used to be with me, you know

632
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I like, you know, just like

633
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: there'll be older cats that like me. He was that

634
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: guy with me, you know what I mean. So he

635
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I don't want to ever call

636
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: him my little man, but he was the younger cat

637
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: that I was like, I like when he's how he's

638
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: moving and you keep them with you. So it was

639
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And they used to make me

640
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: laugh because there's perspective when things was a generation younger.

641
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: So I'm paused and they paused and no, homo, you

642
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you need it though, you

643
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: need that younger perspective and outlook. Well, the thing is

644
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: the thing our Cam at that time was he never

645
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: had a problem with asking for guidance. And he was

646
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: like me in the sense that something hall m stunting

647
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: is supposed to inspired, you know what I mean. So

648
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm I just was stunting. I was so young with

649
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: having a certain kind of cash and I caught you know,

650
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: I was just that that dude at a young age,

651
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: and he loved it. He didn't hate it. He'd be like, no,

652
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm working with that, and I would see him do it,

653
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he was he was

654
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: just cut from that stunt the cloth. I mean, look

655
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: what dips that turned into. Its just stunting, you know,

656
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: number one stunners maybe of all time. I think I

657
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: don't think they definitely get that. No matter what, you

658
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: can't say that they weren't the number one stunners they

659
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: I think. I was looking back and I was like,

660
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: they really used to go hard on the stunt. Really

661
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: uh beings, whether it be friendship or music. What about it? First?

662
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Where you awesome? I thought he was really tough, you know.

663
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I was like, he's a tough rapper, but he could

664
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: really rap. So I liked it. You know again, it's

665
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: like when the thing that I like to do for

666
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: for me, rap to me wasn't about who was the

667
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: best rapper was who was telling the truth. So we

668
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to lie in our raps. Exaggerations weren't. It

669
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: was no bueno. So you can't be a rapper talking

670
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: about you got this money in these bodies and you

671
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: never did none of that ship to us. You know.

672
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: That's why I like certain battles. I'd be like, ah,

673
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: they're cheating. They're not telling the truth, you know what

674
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: I mean. If you're gonna say something about it, nigga,

675
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: say the truth and then make that what is what

676
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: you're using. Use that truth to hurt, not a lie.

677
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm not into cheating. I'm about a fair one.

678
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm always about a fair one. I don't respect anything

679
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: but a fair one. If you cheat, the win you lost.

680
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't fighting and all that. Like if somebody get jumped,

681
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: that's not a fair one. The guns is wacked. You know,

682
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: he should suffice to get your knuckle game and give

683
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: a feeling. If you fight fearlessly, it's not an help. Ever,

684
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: there's nothing, no such thing as a loss if you

685
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: give one hundred fearlessly. Because right arond, you see somebody

686
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: get when two boxes fighting, somebody gets they asked whip,

687
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: but they just like a total Gotti. He would lose

688
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: to just lose fly because he has so much heart.

689
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: So they respected that people. The lord, the wind is

690
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: the heart. The heart is the win, the fearless. That's

691
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: why I might get yo. I can't. I'm gonna get

692
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: at the NFL, and I'm gonna win because I'm gonna try.

693
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: At least I'm gonna sling on them. I gotta try him.

694
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: No one else. I haven't seen nobody try. Then I'm like, yo,

695
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see why they It's like a

696
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: punching bag. You hit the ship, it don't hit back

697
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: in it look tough. You look good on the punching bag.

698
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: With somebody hitting back, it's a little different. We never

699
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: gave them an option. I gotta try. I did it

700
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: in every single thing I've done it. I'm a boutique.

701
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to be so corporate because that means

702
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: I gotta deal with so many stupid ask people. I

703
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: want destination. I want't like minded people. I don't want

704
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: to audience it. See. The problem with Wrapped for me

705
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: was when you're rapping about things that you don't necessarily

706
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: do or that aren't positive, the people that celebrated are

707
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: not positive, So you now have to perform and a

708
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: bunch of around the people that you really should be

709
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: trying to get the funk away from my help. I'm

710
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: not trying. Like, if you don't want to go to

711
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: jail or you hate jail, you don't become a CEO.

712
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to jail to get

713
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get. I don't want to go back

714
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: to jail or not. I never went to jail like that.

715
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: You know, we did a couple of skid beids, but

716
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: nothing real. But if I don't want to be around jail,

717
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take a job in the jail period.

718
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to be around criminal minds or a

719
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: certain kind of energy. I'm not gonna make money off

720
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: that energy because then I'm gonna have to have that

721
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: energy around me all the time. For me, the purpose

722
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: of making music was to get the funk out the

723
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: hood period, not go back to the hood. But when

724
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: I do go back, it was to get more people

725
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: out or at least make it better. But at this moment,

726
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: people can move around. You don't have to stay on

727
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: your block your whole life. It could course less other

728
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: places to live because people are scared. It's a program.

729
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: Why do you think they made projects with a bunch

730
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: of playgrounds in places to play to stagnate you. Why

731
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't they make a project with like a real good

732
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: school and a garden and all other ships that come

733
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: with it to make you healthy, not to keep you

734
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: entertained and distracted again, it keeps you away from the

735
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: visualization of winning. Even on TV, how how often do

736
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: you see a family, a black family winning. How how

737
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: often do you see them celebrating the press, a rich

738
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: black man winning. They celebrate them kind of falling apart,

739
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: and they celebrate that. They build certain people up just

740
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: so you can watch them not enjoy it. I don't

741
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: wanna get to that level if I can't enjoy it

742
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: for it. I rather have my own newspaper, my own magazine,

743
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: my own television network, my own footballs. I don't need

744
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: the whole I'm good, you know. I don't need to

745
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: see one in ten people a day, and I'm great

746
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: the same ten people. You know. The thing about the

747
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: circle I keep around me is that I'm around them

748
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: so much that I'm not a celebrity to them. I'm

749
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: I get no props, I get yelled at, I get shade,

750
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: I get arguments for it. I mean, it'd be crazy,

751
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: and that's how I like it. You know, you're never

752
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: really you're not famous to your children. You're the least

753
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: famous your children, thank you are the corners at all times, right,

754
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: and that's who you should be around the most. Like

755
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: any job that takes me away from my children, I'm

756
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: not doing. I'm just not. It's not worth it. And

757
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: that's what I learned. I gotta go get money to

758
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: get nine. The kids don't even know about money. All

759
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: the kid knows is that who they love. The currency

760
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: for a child is love, and that should be what

761
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: your currency is as an adult. You keep that energy

762
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: that you if you're saying that money comes before the

763
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: time you spend with your child, and that's what your

764
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: child is gonna think. As an adult, currency is time

765
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: and freedom and love and laughter and health. It's not

766
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: a paper that means nothing. That's why everybody's creating their

767
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: own coins right now. Now. Everyone knows don't mean ship

768
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: and ain't supported by no kind of goal. So why

769
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: would we fucking waste all our time doing that. I'd

770
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: rather have a nice house and the farm and to

771
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: be with my child a day, all day long. Because

772
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: of the pandemic and because of however art detected my

773
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: life literally I've been able to be with my child

774
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: every single fucking day since he's been born. He don't

775
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 1: know life without me and his mother, and he's never

776
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: happier than when he's touching us both at the same time.

777
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: So you gotta take your child away to see him

778
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: from the person he loves equally as you. He's still

779
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: gonna be feeling pain or her right and that it's

780
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: not that's just not, you know, And I've been through it.

781
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: I I I wish my other children didn't have to

782
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: go through that. I'm tight about that because that's the

783
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: cycle I wasn't able to break, but I broke it.

784
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: Now I kept I'm gonna keep doing until I get

785
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: it right. And you know, I'll be a different kind

786
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: of dad for the rest of them, just based on

787
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: this experience. What what what what am I having? Now?

788
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: It changes? You know I had. I mean, I had

789
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: a messy public situation with my with my twin, the

790
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: mother my twins, and then now to resolve that and

791
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: then start all over again with my youngest ashes. It

792
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: changes you as a person. Like the ability to not

793
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: see when you want to when you're accustomed to just

794
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: seeing him every single day. That should have stuff on. Anybody, listen, man,

795
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: The one thing that will take a man out of

796
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: pocket is not seeing his children. And another thing a

797
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: man doesn't like to do is go into a courtroom

798
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: to have to see the And then imagine a man,

799
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: especially a proud independent man, having a judge tell him

800
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: how he has to see his children. How long you

801
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: get to and no, and and and no therapy for

802
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: that drama that comes with it. Kanye West, Uh, actually

803
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: eighteen years ago college dropped out dropped But before that,

804
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: thoughts on him? When you met him? Did you see

805
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: it in them motto right away? Mm hmm. I didn't

806
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: see that one coming. Pause. I thought he could make

807
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: good beats, just like a Just Blaze or you know

808
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: other producers. And you know, I didn't see him as

809
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: a rapper. I really still don't. I think he's the

810
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: best producer that could rap. But I know he wants

811
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: to be a rapper, you know what I'm saying. But

812
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: um now, I didn't know that he was going to

813
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: do that. When he broke his jaw. That's when I

814
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: knew he was going to do that. When he came

815
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: back with Through the Wire but really Bigs, it brought

816
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: that to my attention, like I think we should pay

817
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: attention to Kanye. And what was happening was, um the

818
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: Young Guns had a single out um Can Style and

819
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: that ship was going crazy on the radio, and I

820
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: was trying to put Kanye's out just because because Bigg

821
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: was at the time, Bigg was trying to get more

822
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: involved because that's what Jay was beefing about, so he

823
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: was doing all this ship. He was like, yo, let's

824
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: focus on this dude. And um. I went to Lior

825
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: and was like, yo, I'm gonna put out Kanye and

826
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: he was like, no, We're gonna focus on such and such,

827
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'll take him someplace else because

828
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: I had to kind of have so much work. I

829
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: had deals with Atlantic with Rocketfi Rocket for Atlantic and

830
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: Rocket Feller Sony as well, and me it wasn't there,

831
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: and I forgot what the fuss was over there. But anyway,

832
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: and then you know, you saw what they did, Cameron

833
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: did and Jimmy with Cots, and I just had so

834
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: much work that I was just even exclusive. So I

835
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: was taking him to Atlantic and I forgot it was

836
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: it Craig Cold. Now I wasn't Craig. It was whoever

837
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: it was, it was giving me the same kind of

838
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: dumb ship as Jeff jam And I was like, fuck it,

839
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: I just put it out through here and he started

840
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: to catch fire and they had no choice. But you know,

841
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know Kanye was gonna do

842
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: what he did today. And I thought that we were

843
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: going to be able to leverage him. Like to me,

844
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: Kanye was a guy that could not at the door,

845
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: and they were gonna let him in and then all

846
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: of us were gonna run it because you know, we

847
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: were looking. You know, he was wearing a different you

848
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: got a different thing going, you know. But um, I

849
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: didn't know that he was gonna do what he did

850
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: and be so consistent, And I didn't know that he

851
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: had such work. I knew he had work ethic because

852
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: I was impressed. But you know, even looking at how

853
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: he is now, you know he's on one hunt. It.

854
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: He like he really deserves everything that he has because

855
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: he does work that hard his whole he dedicated his

856
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: whole life to it. So thoughts on a project like

857
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: dropout and where he's at with this recent Donda and

858
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: dropping Donta too Soon, thoughts and how his music is

859
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: at this point, he's dropping music for fun, so he's

860
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: just being creative and I think that's great. He does

861
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. When you have a certain

862
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: amount of money, you could do what you want to do, right.

863
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not really the music, it's the way

864
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: he rolls it out. You know, look what he does.

865
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: He's the new Michael Jackson. I didn't know he was

866
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: going to be turning into Michael Jackson. I didn't see

867
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: that one coming. Pause, but he definitely is are Michael Jackson.

868
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: He always brings the event, absolutely, but you know, he

869
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: has really good fashion sense. So it's like Michael Jackson

870
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: with good fashion sense. Can you imagine if Michael Jackson

871
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: had a sneaker, Mike Jackson had a gap deal the move. Well,

872
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: but the thing about it is he would have to

873
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: really study. So what I could say is that, you know,

874
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: it's not just Kanye putting his name on it. He

875
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: really does study. You know, he does the work, which

876
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: is important. He has. He definitely always sets up a

877
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: lab and he has the best people around him. And

878
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: when he gives you a product, it's not just his

879
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: name function. You know. The thing, you know, if there's

880
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: a point of view. Whether you like it or not,

881
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: it definitely is something that's a point of view. You

882
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: can tell that it's made by him. He turned into

883
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: a real designer as well, so for someone to master

884
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: two trades at a professional level, there's a big deal

885
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: as well, and we should have props for that. You know,

886
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: some people just put their names on things, but he

887
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: really did take it serious and get respected, and he

888
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: did it over and over and over and over and

889
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: over and over again. You know, his first fashion show

890
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: perceived as a success, but it really was. It was

891
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: more of a test to see if he come back,

892
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: and he kept coming back. So resilience is impressive to me.

893
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: That's that's fearless. And he's not scared to dream. You know,

894
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: that's one thing that he does. He dreams and most

895
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: people don't dream. So let me ask you a question,

896
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: both of your what's your dreams? I'm living it, but

897
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: what is it though? To be successful? That's an emotion specifically,

898
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: So my dream is to have my own television network,

899
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: my own um football teams, my own sports teams, to

900
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: have a family, to live a certain way, to have

901
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: properties all over the world. But you can say dreams

902
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: change your dreams change, of course they do. I mean

903
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: like when your dreams the death of a dream is

904
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: the best friend. What that means it became a reality

905
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: and then it's time to have another one. So you've

906
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: made your dreams come true. But what's your dreams right now?

907
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: My dreams right now is to be that's my dream.

908
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: You're dreaming and be an actor? You can be an actor.

909
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: You gotta dream bigger. Give me a bigger dream. Profession

910
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: did not be making up something that I'm not in

911
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: that space. I want you to drink. I'm gonna ask

912
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: you this question when you come on to my studio.

913
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: You have to dream big enough so that you're not

914
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: the only one that's affected. You have to be selfish

915
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: about it though. You can't help nobody unless you can

916
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: help yourself. And the people that you want to help

917
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: are the people you love, your family. See that's what

918
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But what if you what if you're in

919
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: a position where, like I'm saying, when you ask me

920
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: that question, I'm looking at like, well, ship, I'm living

921
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: my dream because I've done what I said out to

922
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: do to change line that dreams over right next dream

923
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: right it died already because you've acomplished it, right, it's

924
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: an angel, it's in the wind. You don't want to

925
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: be the guy talking about Like some people's dream in

926
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: high school was to like win the chip, and they

927
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: still talking about the day to this day. My approach

928
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: on this dream would be number one, to be the

929
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: best actor every not just to be an actor. But

930
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: you have one, two, three, four, five, seven, eight cameras

931
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: right there, you have sound in the location. We stopping

932
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: you from acting, somebody employing you know, So then we're

933
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: stopping to making that dream come true today I'm asking,

934
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: I just know, I just wanted to answer to that question.

935
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: What's what question? What's stopping me? If you have one too,

936
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: three four, five, six cameras and Mike's and the location,

937
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: what's stopping you from acting? I know it's more than

938
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: just me acting to it? Right, there's six cameras, writers,

939
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: is all kind of stuff. You don't need writers to act.

940
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: Mostly everything I've ever done, I don't even have a script.

941
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: I didn't even do honor upt with the script. So

942
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: you're making reasons not to do it, so again we're

943
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: stopping it. I don't know the nothing is stopping really well,

944
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing. I'm just trying to I'm just

945
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: trying to. You just said I don't know. That means

946
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: there's nothing, so do it. But at the same time,

947
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: that's saying that. But it's not that simple. Wanted me

948
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: say you how simple as this? This is good. I

949
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: need you to have an argument with him, but don't

950
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: mean it about a girl action. Why the fund didn't

951
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: tell me you called her to She told me you

952
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: called her. You told me he was cool, you weren't

953
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna sunk with her. I told you I like I

954
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: told you I was taken out, and you still called her.

955
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: I thought he was better than that. She do that

956
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: little thing to me? You know, well, you should have

957
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: told me that, bro. I told you, I told you

958
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: not to call. I told you I was gonna really

959
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: try to be with her, and you still called her.

960
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: Like what that type of nick of you is? You

961
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: have my first scene? So what was hard about that? Boy?

962
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: You just now your dream just came to next dreak.

963
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: You just acted. That's something that's the low level of acting.

964
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: That that was sucked up, that you did that to yourself.

965
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: Why did you do that? Because because I don't do

966
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: your favorite listen, in my perspective, give me the best

967
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: case scenario of what you just did. The best case scenario,

968
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: and the only think about that that what I just

969
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: did is in the movie theater? So why can't it

970
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: be because it won't be beneficial? See, I just said

971
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: your dream fucked up? Bro, None of these that's the

972
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: last thing you think about is the worst thing. Bro.

973
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: The first thing you think about is the best thing.

974
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: And then so your visualization just now was it won't

975
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: be successful. That's what you just visualized. You just sucked

976
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: your dream up. Now, if you're only visualizing this ship

977
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: in the movie. When I said, you just said it's

978
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: in the movie, then that's what you should have seen

979
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: and then you make it happen. Now, question, how the

980
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: fund could that be in the movie? Well, I could

981
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: just shoot sixty more minutes of scenes and now I

982
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: could go into the theater and show it. How could

983
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: it be beneficial? Well, I just showcase that I can

984
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: act and it could be good. Actually, in my dream,

985
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: it is so good that now it's a hit out

986
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: of left field visualizing that visualizing now why it can't

987
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: happen because a lot of things goes Again, I'm being

988
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: a realistic Now see that you're not. Your realism is

989
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: the worst. That's not realistic something. Okay, now what if

990
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: let me think about that? True? You're wrong. It always

991
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: goes the right way. It always goes the right way.

992
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: I never fucking lose. If you're playing in the NBA

993
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: and you lose the game, you still won't because you're

994
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Now, what is something? Now? I think

995
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: about this. Some kids says, you say to him, what

996
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: do you want to do? What's your dream? I want

997
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: to be a basketball When he goes, well, ship, I

998
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: can't be a basketball, but I gotta have this, and

999
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: that pu'd be like, get the funk out of here.

1000
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: You gotta do is be good? Like right, you have

1001
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: to the way you attack your dream is the way

1002
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: you have to attack the dreams that make you uncomfortable

1003
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: just because you don't know how to do it. You

1004
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: knew you was gonna be a basketball player because you

1005
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: know your skills. You're not confident in your skills, but

1006
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: you've got to be confident in your skills. Just now,

1007
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: what I saw is you do have enough confidence to

1008
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: be an actor. And why wouldn't you turn this into

1009
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: a scripted show? As well as like the office or something.

1010
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: You got everything you need. The amount of time it

1011
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: takes you to set this ship up, you could be

1012
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: doing scripted, trust me the amount. You've got a lot

1013
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: of people on here. Who's the d P? Is there

1014
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: a DP? Or is just setting up? You know about

1015
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: you know about cameras? What kind of lenses these? Can

1016
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: you put movie lenses on there? Like Zisce lenses. I

1017
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: got Zice lenses. I'll let you hold some lenses and

1018
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: I got cameras. Can anybody here a writer? Can you

1019
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: just write a script? This is the location. It's about

1020
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: two x basketball players that argue over girls. Can you

1021
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: do that? What the fun is the problem? You guys

1022
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: can know showtime right now? I mean, get bro, make

1023
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: your dreams come true. I wish I had these variables.

1024
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean I do, but I don't have showtime past

1025
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: the plug we talked about, and you have something past.

1026
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: It is our personal past. So all you have to

1027
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: do is write a script. Take these cameras if you

1028
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: want to, let your hold the lenses, or you can

1029
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: read some lenses I like uh Cook's animorphix. You can't

1030
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: lose with those. But you got the lights? What the

1031
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: funk want you already got the bodies, which all he

1032
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: needs an editor who your pardon? Definitely I gotta get.

1033
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: I would love to you know, you know he used

1034
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: to make you made a lens, chump rock. He's like

1035
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: a scientist. He made a lens. That's what buck me.

1036
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite he's one of my

1037
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: favorite rappers. Quite some month. I got to change one

1038
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: number because these girls went a little lumper pause. But yeah, literally,

1039
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: who was directing it? Because it's one location, it should

1040
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: only take ten days. You could shoot ten pages a

1041
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: day and you'll have a hunted fucking minutes. There you go, done?

1042
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: Now you can your dream just came true? What's next?

1043
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: What your dream? It came true? He did nothing yet?

1044
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: Just what I'm saying, he just did a scene. I'm sorry,

1045
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: I live a reality. Do you feel like you did

1046
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: a good job in that little scene right there? I

1047
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: was so stung and you were so good. I don't

1048
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: really know to say. I was like captivated about what

1049
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: you were saying. No, No, I feel like you might

1050
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: have just earned a spot, you know what. I'm just

1051
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: full too. Maybe I think that's what your business man, right,

1052
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: that's your man I think you might have just earned

1053
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: a spot. You saw that. You saw he did that? No,

1054
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: I just said it. He really really so. I knew

1055
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: by his lingo that he was a business man. I said,

1056
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: this must be your manager conversation. Look at thee you

1057
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: how about the TV show all you manager? One thing

1058
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: that has to be wreck You got his hands sweaty

1059
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: again for like a year and a half, his hand

1060
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: that you got Jack's hands sweaty with all this was bad.

1061
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: But when he first threw me on the spot, said

1062
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: you didn't even sweaty hands he used to be and

1063
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: then it stopped for like a whole year and a half.

1064
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: He put me on the spot with the actor Ship.

1065
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: So how you go on my bag? My bad? Yeah?

1066
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: Now you good? I like it. I think positive. You said, ship?

1067
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: What's mine? A platform for people to watch you? Already?

1068
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: You have an audience, bro. I mean, I don't see

1069
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: where this is really easy if it's a slam dunk,

1070
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, he said he. I mean, he made it

1071
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: seem very manageable. It is manageable. It's just we never

1072
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: think things do. We make things harder because pause, it

1073
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: is the unknown, so it scares us. But there's no

1074
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: fair when you try. Trust me, it's art no matter what,

1075
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: expressing who you are because you love it confidently. It's gangster.

1076
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: That's where the rock star does that confidence and every

1077
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: and every what they call them pampers that we do

1078
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: for teams. They ask me, what was one thing that

1079
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: I live by that my mama taught me when I

1080
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: was young, What she said to me. There's nothing be

1081
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: to failuable to try. I gotta tell it on. Give

1082
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: me a favorite. As his manager, this is what he does.

1083
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: He brings negative every time, he brings the reason why

1084
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: it shouldn't happen. Don't I don't buy it. To it.

1085
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: But don't even let them go. Don't even only positive,

1086
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: don't say nothing notistic. Let him say that. Let your

1087
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: let your manager be negative. Yeah, I don't think there's

1088
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: always a win. That's the thing a creative. When you're dreaming,

1089
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: there's nothing, there is no reason not to do it.

1090
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: It's a dream. So you're being a creative. You've gotta

1091
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: be a dreamer. But when you you're not realistic when

1092
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: you're dreaming, that's a that's an oxymoron. You have a

1093
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: realistic dream. No dreams supposed to be scary. And unrealistic

1094
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: and never done before. That's a fucking dream. Dream big.

1095
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: They court nothing, they're cheap. Why dream cheap? There's no

1096
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: sense to dream about Popeye's when you could afford some

1097
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: good vegan food. Do you dream about whack weed? I

1098
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: don't know, Is that right? You're like, I'm dreaming, Oh

1099
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: I got weed, but it could be bad. It might

1100
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: be some popcornhip like, no, I'm not dreaming about no

1101
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: bum wheat. You don't dream about a car and say

1102
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: you gotta pay for the gas. You feel me and

1103
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: the dream everything works. That's the dream. M hm m hmm.

1104
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: Now put that on paper, the vigilation of the dreams,

1105
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: because that's the script storyboards. If you want to take

1106
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: that load, and then you just get a fucking a

1107
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: d Is anybody an assistant directive in here? Have the

1108
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: ad break it down, give you a shot list ten

1109
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: pages a day. You got six cameras, you got almost

1110
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: you don't need six cameras, you need three. You can

1111
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: have the three set up there, three set up there,

1112
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: going from scene the scene. Make a fucking soap opera

1113
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: here really easy or anything you want, really and then

1114
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: do it in the metaverse. I'll tell you in four D,

1115
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: I'll put you in my gallery in the metaverse and

1116
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 1: on on new vort and you know you'll be able

1117
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: to be yourself as a fucking avatar. What three D?

1118
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: Four D all the Smoke team? What did I text

1119
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking group chatting how can we get all

1120
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: this woking? The metal verse should call? I did? That's

1121
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: why I just did. What you mean? What do you mean?

1122
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: You're in the press of greatness with Timberland, Swiss beats

1123
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: and a young crop of new producers such as Kanye

1124
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: Neptune was just blazed. What was some of those recordings?

1125
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: We got to see some of them, some like some

1126
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: of them with some of them jay Z movies, But

1127
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: the music with backstage was backstage. But to me, like

1128
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: like that, this his music. The music he was a

1129
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: part of, shaped our teens or early twenties and and

1130
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: our mindset today especially Stay properly and give me example

1131
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: of one session that had you in all So you know,

1132
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty distracting, all right. I take up a lot

1133
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: of energy. So when they would be laying vocals and

1134
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: ship like that, I would sometimes not be there, but

1135
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: I would come back and just listen so it would

1136
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: be like listening sessions and if you like something, because

1137
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: they would be hit, you just would be playing it

1138
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. But the sessions that

1139
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: were um standout are the ones with Biggie um m hmm,

1140
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: the skits making the skits, you know, watching Premier make

1141
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: a beat, ship like that. You know, I've been blessed

1142
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: to be in the studio with Biggie Bro, you know,

1143
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: to smoke with him and ship for him to actually

1144
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: be my home. You know, those relationships do bug me out.

1145
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: And the thing is when you when you become genuinely

1146
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: friends with people that are great the friendship and you

1147
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: lose them, it hurts and and then when you see

1148
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: how it affects everyone else, you know, I'd be the

1149
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: bugout just like then. That was my friend, that was

1150
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: my homie and ship like you know. And what's what's

1151
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: fucked up now is because people are rapidly you're losing

1152
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: people that are famous that you get cool with. That

1153
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: it's almost becoming an uncomfortable norm right, you know what

1154
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, comfortable with death that's scary. Well, that's just

1155
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: being cool with unrecognized trauma. And that's the reason why

1156
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: therapy is key. You know, even though my network I

1157
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: have a show with Taj Healing is gangster, but I

1158
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: get therapy every fucking week. It's like having a constellary too.

1159
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: You got to but you want a therapist that's going

1160
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: to speak your language or you know, Black people don't

1161
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: get therapy, so the study of people don't come from

1162
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: our culture, so sometimes the therapy is the wrong trauma,

1163
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: wrong experience. So you know, having more of us that

1164
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 1: can talk to us, it's about language, you know. That's

1165
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: why I'm also part of this cup to OSG. It's

1166
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty Black principles all over the world,

1167
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: and they all speak our language. You know, the education

1168
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: that's in it to us is not in the language

1169
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: that we can even understand. You know. We're people that

1170
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: like the growth ship, not really kill ship. You know.

1171
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: We people that like to be in the sun, not

1172
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: in the fucking room behind a desk for eight hours

1173
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: while the sun is out. Who's gonna pay attention on

1174
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: to them circumstances, you know what I mean. But again,

1175
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: it's it's a program. So instead of complaining about it,

1176
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: we have to do it ourselves. And at the end

1177
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: of the day. Racism isn't about anything but control and fear.

1178
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: And people will accept us being bosses, being in control

1179
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: if it's profitable. So we know how profitable we are

1180
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: when we're not in control. How profitable do you think

1181
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: we are when we are in control? So why wouldn't

1182
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: we just stick together so we can have the control?

1183
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: And like you said, it's benefits for everyone when we

1184
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: in power, we don't. That's the thing. We don't want

1185
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: to be like. We're not scared, so our control doesn't

1186
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: come at all. We gotta control everybody so they don't rebel.

1187
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: Our control is yo make everybody rich so everybody can

1188
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: be equal. Social classes are so people that are scared,

1189
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't have to feel so scared. The only way

1190
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: they feel empowered. M m m. You know the thing

1191
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: that breaks my heart is to see a big, strong

1192
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: rock star, cool gangster in the street and then have

1193
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: some nerd because the guy have more money from a

1194
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: different culture bowed down. And I see it all the time,

1195
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: like it was he was, he was a gangster in

1196
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: the street, he was a boss. And now you're letting

1197
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: this nerd pat you on the back that's not been

1198
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: through anything. We've been through. I can't do it. M hmm.

1199
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta be able to live with myself.

1200
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: When I'm taking a shower, I'm worried about what my

1201
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: girl thinks about me and my kids. And you know again,

1202
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: I still keep in touch with the people in the

1203
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: fabric that you know made me the man I am today.

1204
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: It would be intolerable for me to compromise on any level.

1205
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: Camping mhm. What's show um opinion on dirt on versus?

1206
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: I think it's dope. It's entertaining. Who's the verses? You

1207
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: would like to see jay Z and Most Death? M

1208
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: I want to see jay Z and Waine Most Death, White,

1209
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: Most Death, He Jill, he is ill. It was always

1210
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: a battle that I wanted to see always. You said,

1211
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: you know something we don't know, of course, No, It's

1212
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: just I've been around both of them for long, you know,

1213
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: long periods of time, and hip hop is about different things,

1214
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, so that would to me, would be the

1215
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: most entertaining one for me because it would be it

1216
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: would be a battle that would be unexpected. I think,

1217
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that ever happened, but that would be

1218
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: my dream battle. You know, I see a lot of

1219
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: people like like like a tyle of the Creator, I

1220
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: see a lot of most stuff on it, you know

1221
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't know if people see it,

1222
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: but I'm like, and then I remember, you know, because

1223
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: my little cousin, my nephew, little Dash and and they,

1224
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, they always put me on the Who's Who's Hot.

1225
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: So when like Tyler Creative and it was it was

1226
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: first of that crew, before anyone knew him. I went

1227
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: and most stuff was there, really yeah, And I'm like,

1228
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, because that's what I used to do. I

1229
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: used to like, I like to see the new ship,

1230
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, all that it ever was intriguing my nephews

1231
01:06:51,480 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: because they're there. Yeah, Stevie's blowing up. He blew up. Well,

1232
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, you know, they like, you know, I got

1233
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: the coolest nephews in the world, and so you know,

1234
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: but they're so cool that they don't even tell people

1235
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: they're related to me. But if I come out with

1236
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: my little nephews and my son and all of us together,

1237
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: you'd be like, damn, that's a swaggy crew. And the

1238
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: thing is we're so independent that they all want to

1239
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: do things on their own. But you know, again, we

1240
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: all collectively talk and you know, I give guidance where

1241
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: I can, but they all want to make their market

1242
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: their own way. But what my thing to them always is, yo,

1243
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: I thought this hard, so you ain't got to do

1244
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: that right, Like, you know, you don't have to do that.

1245
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: Let me I did. I did above stuff, but they

1246
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: rather go do it from scratch. But you know, they

1247
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: ahead of the game. I raised them, you know what

1248
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean. Like literally, you gotta think I had custody

1249
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: of my son when he was eight years old and

1250
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: all of them were the same age, so you know,

1251
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: I had the big house, so they all used to

1252
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: be together and they were still outside, you know what

1253
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, So it would be like you know, they

1254
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: there nanny was like a nanny with a gun that

1255
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: was a driver, and they had you know, every car

1256
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't driving. Was their huge playrooms and you know

1257
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: camp either think about I'll show you the video. I

1258
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: got a documented, but they were bad. Oh my god.

1259
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: That's this is why I have great hands because of

1260
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: the shout. Yeah. So yeah, I'm probably day and you know,

1261
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: we're making this movement toward the world, and you know,

1262
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: they do it a certain way, but you know, hopefully

1263
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: even because I'm talking, it brings awareness to whatever they're doing.

1264
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: So a big shout out to that that's my family

1265
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: and my son he's doing it, you know, cryptocurrency, you know.

1266
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: And you know again, I was on the TV show.

1267
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: It was making us look crazy, you know, and that's

1268
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: why I put money on E one's head. And also

1269
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: we we channeled and started did my own so in

1270
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: Love for a Living and that's the new show that's

1271
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna come out and you're gonna see what a family

1272
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 1: looks like and what we're really fighting for. Because my

1273
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: whole family we ate one. Me, My daughters were all good,

1274
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They want to make and

1275
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: compromise someone's legacy, but it kind of caused dysfunction. And

1276
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: you put a camera on somebody that's showing the dysfunction

1277
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: they want and they don't say shit. They out of there,

1278
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: you know, but they wants profit and that narrative has

1279
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: to stop as well. That's why it was important for

1280
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: me to partner up with foxhul And you go to

1281
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: Fox sol we only four hours a day every day

1282
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: right now, you know, seven days a week, and and

1283
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: that's and way more is gonna happen. And also I'm

1284
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: distributing movies as well, so Dame Dads Studios Distribution. I

1285
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: got like twenty movies on two we Fox Soul. Oh

1286
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 1: not if you go to Fox Soul right now. My

1287
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: ship is on v O D. So nobody's talking about

1288
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: this ship. What I'm saying is, it's like, oh ship,

1289
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: they really did actually do a network on his own

1290
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: by itself. Raise no money, not a dollar, and I

1291
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: did everything that they tried to do. But now I'm

1292
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,839
Speaker 1: not you ain't paying me. We're busting down ads like bosses.

1293
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: Should you know what I'm saying. In so, I don't

1294
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: expect anyone to give me any real estate. I gotta

1295
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: buy it to take it. I don't want anybody to

1296
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: get me anything. I hate that. You know, then you

1297
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: gotta be nice to him. I don't like it. You

1298
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: ain't gotta be nice to us. But we're gonna let

1299
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: you talk your ship on here for sure, because I'm

1300
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot. I love it. I just can't

1301
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: wait to see the movie. I'm a holy too. You

1302
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 1: did live, You did the whole thing live, broke the

1303
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: whole ship down. Yeah, I mean, I just you know,

1304
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: I just I just gave you out a bootprint. It

1305
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: ain't so hard once you know it. If you don't

1306
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: know it, you know, you can make an ass out

1307
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: of yourself. But I know it. And if you have

1308
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 1: a DP, you know, it's just all of this pause.

1309
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: You want director, right, you gotta get your wide first

1310
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: and then you get your close ups or you just

1311
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: have all the cameras. But you know, it depends on

1312
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: how you want to light it. And it's about the lighting,

1313
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: and it's about the glass, And don't matter about the camera.

1314
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: It matters about the glass. The glass is the lens

1315
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: paying full. Part two going to be ridiculous. I can't

1316
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: wait till we end it. You uh earlier. I mean,

1317
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about your network and all that. I love

1318
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: all this ship, but but to me, I think it's

1319
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: important too for people to to to really know all

1320
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: the different lanes you accomplished. So in you jump into

1321
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: rocket where it line the walk away line. Or by

1322
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: the year two thousand made a hundred million dollars in sales,

1323
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: you had the blueprint in music. You took the same

1324
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 1: blueprint mine hustle and just took it in every obviously

1325
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: and every step of the way. Mm hmm, what's the question.

1326
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: What was the clothing line run? Like? Yeah, frustrating. You know,

1327
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: everything that we did at a big level, including pain

1328
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: and full I had to fight for not one thing

1329
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: that we did that you're celebrating now wasn't me having

1330
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: to be game dashed asshole. And I was sick of

1331
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: the I told you so fact, Like y'all made me

1332
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: fight you over this, and now you want to celebrate

1333
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: and act like nothing happened. And that's why I left,

1334
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 1: because it was like arguing with people with bad taste

1335
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: that had no power, that thought they did that usually

1336
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: in the street out have been like, Yo, you're you're

1337
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: going in the trump There's no way you're not, I

1338
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: promise you, bro. It would be like you know, internalizing.

1339
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: Think about if you have to take a ship the

1340
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 1: diarrhea cramp, how painful it is until you get the release,

1341
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: and when you finally release, you're like, oh you little

1342
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: till you like with that, I'm good. Imagine emotionally having

1343
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: to eternalize everything, having an emotional diarrhea cramp and you

1344
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: can't really project the way you want, never get to

1345
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: take that emotional ship. It's painful and I think that's

1346
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: what happens with everybody. They internalize. That's why I never

1347
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: would hold it in, because I'm not gonna have an

1348
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: emotional diarrhea cramp because of your fucking nerd ask. I

1349
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: release as soon as I feel it, as soon as

1350
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: I got to take a shift. I'm taking a ship,

1351
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: so I'm happy. What would you guys have been like

1352
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: if you have social media back in the day, particularly

1353
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 1: in that hard knock jail, too much jail on the

1354
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: business side. But I don't know, bro, You know, I

1355
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: was a different guy back then, and I've been doing

1356
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: my version of social media the whole time. I was

1357
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: the guy who always had a camera and everybody said

1358
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: I was extra. I'm the guy that taped everything. I'm

1359
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: the guy that took the pictures before I always got

1360
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm you know, with all my friends I've been in with,

1361
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: I always had to have a camera, a real camera,

1362
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: because I had to send in pictures. You know, I

1363
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: had somebody whose job it was to send my friends

1364
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: pictures to jail. I'm telling you, it's a different time,

1365
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know what I mean, Like,

1366
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: I tend not to do that, but what if so

1367
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: much because it doesn't do nothing front. You know, I

1368
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: just know about what I just appreciate how hard it

1369
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: was paused back then and how easy it is now.

1370
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: What I learned is I don't have to go outside, right,

1371
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: And also I have a voice without having a buffer, right.

1372
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: So probably would have happened is the world would have

1373
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: evolved a lot quicker and people wouldnt have thought. I

1374
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to yell for people to finally listen ten

1375
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: years later. You know, if you look at what I've

1376
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: been saying for the last twenty years is pretty consistent.

1377
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: But the way people were looking at me is the

1378
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: thing that's different. That's true. August, how did that day

1379
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: change your life? You know? That was the day I

1380
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: got a broken heart. I know what it felt like,

1381
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: the really really have my heart broken, And it was

1382
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: a day that I had to learn how to appreciate life.

1383
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: It was a terrible day. What was she like as

1384
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: a person? I mean we gotta brief glance at her

1385
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: of music, her girl in the world person. Just she

1386
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: was the coolest girl in the world period, Just the

1387
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: girl you want to hang out with every day all day.

1388
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: I see a lot of people didn't know that we

1389
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: were together till after because we didn't really want to

1390
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: be bothered. We would go places where nobody was because

1391
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: we just wanted to hang out with each other. I

1392
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: was amazed about how powerful she was now. She affected people,

1393
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: but she was so well versed. You know, Honestly, if

1394
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't four Lee, I wouldn't been able to recognize

1395
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: Rocky now, because first of all, I didn't know what

1396
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: and love felt like. And you know, I was always

1397
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: I never thought I would find a girl like her again,

1398
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: and it was weird that it ended up being Raquel,

1399
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So without ever going through love,

1400
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 1: you might not know how to recognize it until it's going.

1401
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 1: But what I'm appreciative is that we did recognize it,

1402
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: and we celebrated each other's love. And there was never

1403
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: anything I didn't get to not tell her except the

1404
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: don't get on that plane. You know, that's the one

1405
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: thing I regret. I actually referenced it a lot um

1406
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 1: before she was getting on the plane. You know, she

1407
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, the BlackBerry Ship and the BlackBerry Ship. I

1408
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: don't like the plane, and I said, well, don't get

1409
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: on it, and um, she was like, now I got

1410
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: to you know, there was a different situation, but she

1411
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: had to do this video and that was one of

1412
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: the times I wasn't an asshole, you know. And if

1413
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: I had been an asshole that day and really stood

1414
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: behind what I believed in, she wouldn't have got on

1415
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: that plane. So now when situations come up and I'm like, damn,

1416
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill a vibe, but I'm like,

1417
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: I'd rather kill a vibe now than be all funked

1418
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: up later. Talk about her impact, her legacy on music

1419
01:16:50,080 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: and just that part. Well, you know the fact that

1420
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: every single day I get tagged on pictures of a Leasah,

1421
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: Like it's like, I don't want to say, like a cult,

1422
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: but the love is just gets stronger. Yeah, but it's

1423
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: just like people, really, it really fucked a lot of

1424
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 1: people up. You know that I've seen people like several

1425
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: that still have not recovered at all, like just disappeared

1426
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: off the face of the earth. You know what I'm saying,

1427
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: like seriously, And what I do sometimes think about is

1428
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: what would have life been like if she did not

1429
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: transition in that way and what she would have became.

1430
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing. It's like I think about

1431
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: that what would Biggie be today? We will pop be

1432
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: right now. Just curious to know what the older version

1433
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: and of these people and with their legacy, they really

1434
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: like they just got started and they were doing so

1435
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: well and so far ahead of the game. You know.

1436
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: The only way I can equate it. It It was just

1437
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: the world didn't deserve her, you know, and she went

1438
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: through a lot, and it was like, I'm just glad

1439
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: that she got to feel this kind of love before

1440
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: something like that happened. But you know, it's another reason

1441
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: why I don't like dudes a lot. We had Kevin

1442
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: Heart as a guest. He said, you, uh, you kind

1443
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: of helped him and this his first opportunity with paper Soldiers.

1444
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: What was it like? And what did you see? And

1445
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 1: keV to give him an are you gonna break me to? Yeah?

1446
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, I directed Kev's first couple of movies and

1447
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: took him off a stage and put him in the movie.

1448
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: And next day, Um, I like that Kevin was safe,

1449
01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: you know, And uh, I knew they he had that

1450
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: commercial potential. I thought it was funny how he could

1451
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: tease hisself, but he kept up all the time. You know,

1452
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: when I see him, it's like a snap fight that

1453
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: I usually win always, you know. So yeah, to me,

1454
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,959
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, I see a lot of the ingredients

1455
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, but some of them don't

1456
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: realize their potential. So there's people that I think are

1457
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: funnier than Kevit that did not make it, but they

1458
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: didn't have the work ethic or maybe they didn't make

1459
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: certain sacrifices or compromises, you know. So I see and

1460
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: there's so many different people that I could be like,

1461
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: but this is the person that should have did it,

1462
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: but they just was fucking up. They just was just

1463
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: not not didn't have the discipline. It's a discipline like

1464
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: in basketball. How many dudes do you know that it's

1465
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: super nice that could have made it if they would

1466
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: have just played had the discipline. They just didn't have

1467
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: the discipline. It's the same thing. So it's actually I'm

1468
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: actually rather like if you would rewind and the people

1469
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: that like I wouldn't have expected Kanye to be the

1470
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: person that was the most successful of all of us

1471
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: in this moment. That was not what I was expected.

1472
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect so many people that have become certain things.

1473
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: It really bugged me out, Like you know, twenty years

1474
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 1: ago and been like, Yo, you know, in twenty years

1475
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna be suing each other. You know what I'm saying,

1476
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna be a court. You know, Kanye is gonna

1477
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: be on in the gap and indeed get the funk

1478
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 1: out of That's good. I'm gonna be doing all that,

1479
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 1: you know. But I didn't. I would have thought it

1480
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: may have been the certain other people that I thought

1481
01:20:55,680 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: would have gotten there as well. So almost almost everyone

1482
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: that didn't get there that I started with, I'm surprised

1483
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: they're not all there. So I'm actually more shocked that

1484
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't have more of the people that I um

1485
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: invested in, you know, with in Forbes, you know what

1486
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean. If we I think if we would all

1487
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 1: stayed the unit, everyone would have been on Forbes. It

1488
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: would have been like twenty billionaires. Not too mhm. With

1489
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: the success of Painting Full, you broke the news not

1490
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: too long ago that you're gonna do part two. What

1491
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: what motivated you to bring that back? No, I was

1492
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: always gonna make it or I need to have my

1493
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 1: own television network. Mm hmm. You know what kind of

1494
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 1: fight I went through to make Painting for bro Man listen,

1495
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: it was lawsuits. I'm fighting and I literally had to

1496
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: fight in the street were paying for damn, you know

1497
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, my fucker's getting smacked. I got sued,

1498
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, like why you shoot them up like they

1499
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 1: own the block and ship like that. More like people

1500
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 1: just getting in business that was not theirs, you know.

1501
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: You know again it was a thing convincing people that

1502
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about and be having to

1503
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: be prepared to pay for it myself. And you remember

1504
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: when like when they paid for it, they're in control.

1505
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: But because it's my name, I gotta deal with everything

1506
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: in the street more important. But even though like they

1507
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: think I'm the one with all the money and I

1508
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 1: made this money, I'm like, yo, I got a little

1509
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: feel off that, like paying for wasn't my most profitable

1510
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: movie yet all that was my first deal, and after

1511
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: that deal, I knew I had to do it myself.

1512
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: But I also didn't ever want to put myself in

1513
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: a position again where I had to fight to do

1514
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: it the right way. So you know, it's like I'm

1515
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: not going to try to convince you to do certain things,

1516
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 1: and I know my work is so good, you should

1517
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: be begging to do certain things. So I just wasn't

1518
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna bring it out to it was a demand or

1519
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: I could have the control to do it in a

1520
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: way where I don't have to fight. You know. I

1521
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: wanted to be a pleasant experience. It should be therapeutic

1522
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: because the truth will be told. You know. I had

1523
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 1: to do a lot of compromising. I couldn't cast who

1524
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to cast. You know, I had to make compromises.

1525
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: You wouldn't you know what. You wouldn't know that from

1526
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: seeing the movie not worked out, but it was conditions.

1527
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 1: So like with Harris, I didn't went with Harris to

1528
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: play a Zy. I wanted Tracy Morgan to play a

1529
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: Zy and they wanted, um damn what they wanted to play.

1530
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: I just forgot his name. But I wanted Cam, So

1531
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll let y'all use Homie because as

1532
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: was a little more heavy set. If Cam could play Homeboy,

1533
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: and but my condition was that he had to spend

1534
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: two weeks with him, so he had to study him.

1535
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I made the more study certain characters.

1536
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: I was able to coach McKay, you know, just and

1537
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: I had Jay Black because Jay Black was his lieutenant

1538
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: and that's like my brother. And you know, he was

1539
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: able to coach him. So he was able, like everybody

1540
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: was able to be with those particular characters. And Cam

1541
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily act like him, but he did it well.

1542
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: But he didn't have like the high pitched voice of

1543
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: the fast talk, but he just had the the mannerisms

1544
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: to play that. But Cam went through a lot, you know,

1545
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: he got shot over that role in Washington that was

1546
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 1: over there, you know, and even like and you know,

1547
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: he's never told his story, but like it was times

1548
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: I didn't really realize what happened. He was like, I

1549
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 1: was asking to do another role once he was like, yo, bro,

1550
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: I got shot over because it was scene was a

1551
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: certain scene. He was like, I don't want to do

1552
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: that scene, you know what I'm saying, And he's like,

1553
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be too much. So almost when I found

1554
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: out that, I felt a little responsible and I never

1555
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: wanted to put anybody in that position again because the

1556
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: people take this story really serious, so it has to

1557
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: be really done completely correctly, you know. But there was

1558
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 1: a lot of layers that happened in perspectives that weren't told.

1559
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: It was from one person's perspective. It was from a's perspective,

1560
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: but this perspective is from a different perspectives. So, like

1561
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: I said, the Lynch Mob, which is like my block.

1562
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: You know that's Loose Sims and you know he just

1563
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: came home and he has a perspective, and Jay Black

1564
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: has a respective perspective, and Kevin Childs has a perspective,

1565
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: and their truth is the truth. It is what it is.

1566
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: And the other people that we're actually there, you know

1567
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna get their perspectives. So you know, I did

1568
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: a deal with the BBS boys. I did a TV

1569
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: show with him, and now I'm casting the cars first

1570
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: you know what I meant. But now, but you know

1571
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: this is to me, this is gonna be art. So

1572
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: right now the first level is casting the cars. There's

1573
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: a car in London right now that the BBS boys

1574
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: are but I don't want to say what it is,

1575
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: the Holy Grail of BBS cars. Can you tell us

1576
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: the time frame this next with part two will be in?

1577
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: Are you saving that? Well, it'll be I'll probably pick

1578
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: it up right after it happens because a lot went

1579
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: on then. Like I said, I was there, so you

1580
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 1: know he was hitting us with work two and I

1581
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,480
Speaker 1: took an l on that one. Everyone did, but particularly

1582
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: so you're gonna pick up right where you left off

1583
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 1: said in that time frame. Yeah, and I hope people

1584
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: don't expect me to have the same actors. These guys

1585
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: are older now, so he's not going to be the same, right,

1586
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: wasn't the first one? You know? That ship? If you

1587
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: could play anyone in Paid and Fool, who would it

1588
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: be a good question? If I could play anyone paying

1589
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: for I would be Calvin right now? Okay, I got

1590
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: I know that is I'll tell you offline you can

1591
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: do that. I've seen that movie too many times. Ou

1592
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: damn the those lines now. But you don't understand that

1593
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: whole story though, really do you? Guys don't understand it

1594
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: from the movie right, See, like they touched on him,

1595
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: but they're real. What really happened was heavy. With all

1596
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 1: the things spaces you've been successful in you continue to

1597
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: be successful, is there one that stands out to you

1598
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 1: the most outside of fatherhood? I think, um, the Rachel

1599
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Roy the fashion. You know, people don't talk about that

1600
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: so much. You know that I was able to take

1601
01:27:55,040 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: a brand and then, like you know, three years had

1602
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 1: it and burg Dolf Goodman. You know, it wasn't uh

1603
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: urban Surmata business brand was you know, real fashion. You know,

1604
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: c FDA really got into the world of it, and

1605
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 1: then it was also able to diffuse it and have

1606
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: it in Macy's. You know. So the fashion business to

1607
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 1: me is like probably the one with the most taste

1608
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: and discipline. But the things I'm doing now, like making

1609
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: comic books, Like there's a movie I'm making, Deadweight, and

1610
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: we made a comic book out of it. And you know,

1611
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: my girl just did a kid's book, you know, Dusco

1612
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: goes to Space and she made a cartoon. I'm always

1613
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: really inspired by things I've just never done the football league.

1614
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: So you know, again that's shild I did. It was

1615
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: twenty years ago for that to be the most impressive

1616
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: thing that I did. But to me be disappointed. I

1617
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: did that ship twenty years ago. So I can't come

1618
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 1: back and do the same thing again. It wouldn't be

1619
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: inspiring to me. It would be the same ship. You know,

1620
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm a person that likes to look at myself as

1621
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: like an industry conqueror. You know, I don't want to

1622
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: be known really as an entertainer. I want to be

1623
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: known as like the Mark Anthony or Julius Caesar of

1624
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 1: industries and or fighting for our culture, but with the

1625
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, the black aging where you live. You know,

1626
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: back in the Roman days, you were not considered famous,

1627
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: no matter how rich you were, you weren't famous unless

1628
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: you want a war. So I like to be known

1629
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: for winning wars, or at least fighting hard valent, you know,

1630
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: hard as it could that, you know. I don't want

1631
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: to be famous for bidden any I don't want to

1632
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: be patted on the back by them. I want to

1633
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: be famous by chap for challenging them, but also being profitable.

1634
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to be famous for showcasing what a healthy

1635
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: family life looks like, so much so that everyone wants

1636
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: to have a healthy family life. I want to change education.

1637
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: I want to change therapy. I want to change the

1638
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: way we look at rehability tation from trauma, which is

1639
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: a prison. But again, I want to change the way

1640
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: we heal. You know what I mean. I want us

1641
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: to be landlords. I want to change the economic temperature

1642
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: for everybody. I went the circle of success, everybody rich.

1643
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: I want everybody rich. That's all I want. If you

1644
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: had a billboard with a message for the world for

1645
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: everyone to see. What would your message on your billboard?

1646
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: B mm hmm A one word bill but no, it

1647
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: could be a sentence, it could be a word. It

1648
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: could be I would say dream big, you know, and

1649
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: keep people off, Like I think the main thing people

1650
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: have to do is keep people away. That distracts your

1651
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: vision of the wind. I can't. I don't want to

1652
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: visualize the negativeness I have to. You know, if if

1653
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: it's something I've never done before, I don't know what

1654
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 1: problems are going to present themselves that I know I

1655
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 1: could never factor them. There's always ship that I just

1656
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: could never imagine where it was. It was a factor

1657
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: like make sure you have a good hard drive. Pause,

1658
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: a really good hard drive. What's the hard drive? We

1659
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: get thickled it? Yeah, get a g ray because I've

1660
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: lost for this before the ship sucks. The machines break down,

1661
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, batteries die. Really when the machines break, that

1662
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 1: just slows you the fun down. You know, always make

1663
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: his dude, so it shouldn't be so makeup or hair.

1664
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: But you know, factor that you don't want your ship

1665
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: ready and then you're waiting for people to fucking be

1666
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: doing their hair done because time is investance. Don't you're

1667
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: probably not in the union, but still, you know, twelve

1668
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: hours or twelve hours and you don't want to spend

1669
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and you have to block, don't get there the day

1670
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 1: of you know, these are you know, he's got into

1671
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: every These are all problems that I've had on movie sets.

1672
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 1: So the next time I make sure they don't happen again.

1673
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: But I would not have known these things unless I

1674
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 1: made the movie. But y'all could learn from them. And

1675
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 1: but I did the rough stuff. You worked that hard

1676
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: so we can, like bro I got twenty filmmakers and

1677
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 1: Dame Deston and man Omo has created and all of them.

1678
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,879
Speaker 1: Because to finish the film, you've got to be a general.

1679
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 1: You know, you have to lead soldiers. It's a plan.

1680
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: It's like you have to manage like starting the company

1681
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: and fucking getting crewed up every time unless you have

1682
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 1: a consistent crew. I was like, you already got a

1683
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: crewed the rough stuff is over or you really need

1684
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: as a line producer to organize it. But you could

1685
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 1: probably do it yourself, you know. So there's just unless

1686
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 1: you do certain things, you just will not know it,

1687
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: so you can't factor why not to do? He's like,

1688
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 1: I'll learn when i'm there if it ain't put me

1689
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: in jail. But it's not gonna kill me or impair

1690
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: anyone health around me or myself? Why not try so?

1691
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: Like in the street, I'm just taught to swing on

1692
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: the nick and just you gotta fight it up so

1693
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: you know you could get hurt. But where can you

1694
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: get hurt here? If you're having fun, when you're doing

1695
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: what you love, it doesn't feel like work. People be

1696
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: asking me, like, y, why you don't go to sleep?

1697
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yo, my life is better than my dreams.

1698
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: I wake up looking forward to what I'm doing every

1699
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: single day. It is. That's wealth, happiness art, detecting what

1700
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: you like, not what everyone else likes. Like. To me,

1701
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: being too famous means you gotta be outside too much.

1702
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: That means you have to be outside around people you

1703
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: don't know too much. When you're outside, where are your kids?

1704
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: I thought we was doing those just so we could

1705
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: be with our kids. I'm not doing this so I

1706
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: could be outside more. I'm doing this so I could

1707
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: be with my kids. Period. And if you're doing it

1708
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: for any other reason, that's why you're not happy because

1709
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: love is not involved. That's not your currency. I'm not

1710
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: gonna spend the money. I don't even I work for

1711
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: my children and my girl. I'm an employee for them. Literally,

1712
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't get nothing. Oh

1713
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: money just goes into paying people because I don't get

1714
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: to look at money. You know. I want them to

1715
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: keep the brokesh it on me, keep that ship, leave

1716
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 1: me to funk alone. I'm trying to build this dream

1717
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: over here and be while I'm doing nothing. I ain't

1718
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,719
Speaker 1: no better way quick hitters. First thing to come to mind.

1719
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 1: Let me know what you think if they were to

1720
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: create a biopic about your life, who would play you?

1721
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: No idea? Probably baby dost go Boogie my son, maybe

1722
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: um Lucky. I don't you know. I don't know. I

1723
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 1: mean to beat me. It's like you gotta be really

1724
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: really really really cool. You know what I'm saying. Like

1725
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't. It's like, you know, when

1726
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: they were doing the Name Dash Challenge, His Name Dash Challenge,

1727
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: it's crazy like people, Yeah, but no one could really

1728
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, I didn't realize it was so difficult

1729
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: when people know rhythm doing it. It's gonna look people

1730
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 1: were rhythm try but they can't. It's just you know

1731
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: what to jump back. People can't really get well the

1732
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 1: last time you did it, I'll probably do it tonight.

1733
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm rehearsing. I'm in a band. I'm in the rock band,

1734
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: the Black Guns. I got the best kits, but the

1735
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: verses I'll be I'll be looking for a rock band.

1736
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: The verses I want to versus rock band. I would

1737
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: verse somebody. I do verses with my band. Where can

1738
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: we find your guys music at Spotify right now? But

1739
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 1: you'll be able to get it on the n f

1740
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 1: T two in a minute. But yeah, Spotify right now.

1741
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: Black Guns therapy, but we're gonna I stopped rehearsals because,

1742
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 1: um so, the music division is blue rock. Right. So

1743
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Nico letson artists. She's the best. She's right there. First

1744
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 1: of all, she would take anybody's girl in here right there.

1745
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 1: She's an assassin, and she has a movie coming out,

1746
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 1: but she plays that she has a I have a

1747
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: I have a basically have a country music record coming out.

1748
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Me and her Valentine. I got rock and roll records.

1749
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: You're sing sing, I don't rap I sing. Yeah, you know,

1750
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 1: you want to get a nice laugh. Put you want

1751
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 1: to play a player right now, a nice laugh right now,

1752
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 1: right now. But we're gonna be able to pull it out.

1753
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: I got videos and all that. You can see all

1754
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 1: that a matter of fact, it plays on Fox Soul.

1755
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 1: The documentary All that shows at the Peppermint Louse. But

1756
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: in New York Lower East side of the Canary Club

1757
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 1: in Newark. Oh yeah, a big shot to do it

1758
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 1: all too. He running for city council, you know, shout

1759
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: out to the commission to I'm part of something called

1760
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: the commission. So it's Eddie Milton, Senator Eddie Milton of Gary,

1761
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Indiana about the renaissance that congressman and j Carson the

1762
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 1: OSG with Dennis mckethey mainly he created all these principles

1763
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: so that my man Taj for therapy and therapist and

1764
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: Melanie Um uh Dr parnell You see her on CNN

1765
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: every single day, black woman doctor that she could play

1766
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Dame Dare. She's the illest. She got that swag. I

1767
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 1: would never argue with her and Bishop parnell Um and

1768
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 1: uh and do it all, you know, and uh, we're

1769
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,799
Speaker 1: part of something called the commission, and we get together,

1770
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,759
Speaker 1: we deal with things, and you know, laws get passed,

1771
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, like they don't teach us how to be

1772
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: politicians at school or how to live before a law. Like,

1773
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 1: think about it. Every law that was passed mostly was

1774
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 1: passed a hundred years ago, ninety years ago, whatever it

1775
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: was by people that had slaves. So anyone that had

1776
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 1: a slave should not be able to pass a law.

1777
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 1: So all laws are defunk right now. They all need

1778
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 1: to be done over. But we complain and ship. But

1779
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 1: the only way to make something legal is to make

1780
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: it a law. So literally, I could be talking to

1781
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: Eddie Milton, he listens, he go drafts that shut up

1782
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: and I've seen him go pass laws just based on

1783
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: our conversations. And that's the circle you want to be

1784
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: around people like that. The olasg on Tuesdays, they or

1785
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 1: what's always the Thursdays? Today Thursday? So today at seven thirty,

1786
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 1: a principal will have a TV show one because these

1787
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: are the people that need to be celebrated and we

1788
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: gotta stick together and showcase that. They never showcase when

1789
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: we're helping each other, they don't show. Now there's always

1790
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: g thing again a hundred like like Principle, I got

1791
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 1: a book coming out even just on Ellen or type

1792
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: of ship. Right in princibles, I do principal summits. I

1793
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 1: do a class every Tuesday, and and and and teach

1794
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: the principles or about how to be entrepreneurs so they

1795
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: can show their kids. They don't built data studios and

1796
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 1: West Side High and all these different um in the

1797
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: bronx um Um, all these different schools. They don't write

1798
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: about that ship at all in the newspaper. They know

1799
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: about it, they all my grant, but they never talked

1800
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: about that ship. I could walk into a glass wall.

1801
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 1: They put that ship all over. I have a fight

1802
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 1: with somebody in my culture, they put that all. I

1803
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: go to court. I don't pay a bill. But whenever

1804
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: we're doing something that's really really good and they know

1805
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 1: about it, like I've had my publicists pushed the stories

1806
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: and no one take it. But when I asked me

1807
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 1: my opinions on Homie all day, why they don't showcase

1808
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: that Because they won't and I don't expect them to.

1809
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm not mad. So I got my own network, make

1810
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: my own magazines, make my own movies again own. We

1811
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: gotta own we gotta be the landlords. We can't be

1812
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,640
Speaker 1: mad at them about their rules in their house. We

1813
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: gotta build our own house. Period. There's no other way.

1814
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Fitting in will not work. You can't expect your oppressor

1815
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: to let you out of jail. The war and they're

1816
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: gonna get you the keys, especially when it's making the money.

1817
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 1: You know, prisoners are private sector. They're mostly owned by

1818
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: people that don't give a funk about anything but the money.

1819
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: They want to keep you in there. It's about that

1820
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: bad that the government pays for. Why was somebody to

1821
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,839
Speaker 1: own the jail? Want people to stop committing crimes. They

1822
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: want to build a bigger jail, a hotel for slavery

1823
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: legal like why you did? Why? Like why it ain't? No,

1824
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 1: it should be therapists all over the jail. So did

1825
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 1: you get there soon? As you gotta charge? You should

1826
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 1: have a therapist the traumas we got you there in

1827
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 1: the first place. I'm telling you it's the program. But

1828
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,080
Speaker 1: again I again, I'm like, yo, that was a good play.

1829
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, when you're playing somebody in chest or somebody

1830
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 1: in basketball, if they gotta l move where they prepared after,

1831
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: if they beat you by Yo, that was ill. I

1832
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 1: just gotta get better. That's us. We're so mad that

1833
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: they prepared. Now we gotta get prepared. That's we should

1834
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 1: be more mad that were not prepared. This is the

1835
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: time to really get together and talk it out. Make

1836
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 1: a plan. Plans don't happen overnight. You gotta sit down

1837
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: and really write them. Ships out. So you know when

1838
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 1: I remember, like when when I spoke to you about

1839
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 1: the league, I didn't. I didn't really talk to you. First,

1840
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: I sent you at that. I had to give a

1841
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: visual and now I gotta talk about how to be

1842
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: an owner. I had to study this ship. You can't

1843
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: just say I want to be an owner of a

1844
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: team and then just you know, you end up losing everything.

1845
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: We gotta study, study the craft and a lot of

1846
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 1: things that we think we can't do or we're not

1847
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 1: allowed to do. If you read defined print, you could

1848
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 1: do it. That's what they do. They read defined print.

1849
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Just gotta study to work at The best team is

1850
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 1: the most prepared team. Look at life like you look

1851
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: at sports. The one that is the most disciplined has

1852
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: the best workout. You know, most of the time, the

1853
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 1: people that are successful aren't the best at what they do.

1854
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: They just are the best at working, the hardest at

1855
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 1: what they do, the discipline. But if you're not doing

1856
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: something you love, you ain't gonna want to do it.

1857
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 1: So you have to find what you love, something you

1858
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: would do for free, and then that's what you do

1859
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 1: every day all day. Get paid for doing something you

1860
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: would do for free, like basketball. Like, I know, you

1861
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: gotta be laughing more. Fucker's breaking their leaving their Achilles

1862
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 1: tendants on the court for no money, just for fun.

1863
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 1: We gotta do it for a job, our job. But

1864
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: these y'all getting paid man, right, My fucker is doing

1865
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 1: that ship hurting themself like the healing, and they gotta do.

1866
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 1: They gotta pay for it when they get and miss

1867
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 1: work and be uncomfortable and all that for fun. Right,

1868
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: Well that's why I love gaming. I love to see

1869
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: all the kids that would they thought they was gonna

1870
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 1: be losing because they played video games, man is now

1871
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 1: because they're making money at what they are. Mostly Like

1872
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 1: my son used to be like, oh he has a

1873
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 1: d D. And I'd be like, there's no way he

1874
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 1: has a d D. He plays video games. He's focused

1875
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:23,839
Speaker 1: all day long when he plays. He just doesn't focus

1876
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 1: on what he don't like periods. That's not a d D.

1877
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: That's I'm not dealing with that. I don't have to

1878
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: pay attention to you. That's all period So find something

1879
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 1: that makes you focus. Like you know, people gamble, they

1880
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: don't feel time. You're in the club. All of a sudden,

1881
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 1: the clubs over you having fun you Like, damn, that

1882
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: ship was five hours already. M M, that's a long time.

1883
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm fifty. I'm not having so much fun.

1884
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't be fifty. I'm fifty, man, that

1885
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: should bugged me out. I'm having too much fun. Like yo,

1886
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 1: my run is just begun, and I've been having fun

1887
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: the whole time, my whole adult life. I don't know,

1888
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 1: you know. I was a Mogil hip hop Mogil twenty one.

1889
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: That dream came true. Like most people still trying to

1890
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 1: be hip hop Mogil is like fifty. Just I got

1891
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: that out my system, off the red. I want to

1892
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 1: make sure you're getting paid for this. No, I do

1893
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: the alle some good ass water. But yeah, give me

1894
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: the top five lyricis of all time. I can't do it.

1895
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: Give me five. Not the gotta be one two, three, four, five.

1896
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 1: You like, here's five you listen to. I'm not doing

1897
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: that one. I'm fifty, bro, Like you know what I mean.

1898
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 1: You have to ask me, like what decade do you talk?

1899
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 1: I've been there. I'm fifty. I've been doing this since

1900
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: something like nineteen oh yeah, like eighteen. So I'm gonna

1901
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 1: tell you. I'll tell you this. The one person that

1902
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 1: I think that the world didn't really get to like

1903
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 1: could have had that chip is Jail Electronic mm hmm.

1904
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,639
Speaker 1: I wish that. You know, he owes me an album.

1905
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: He has an album. I have an album with him

1906
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 1: that he needs to put out at some point. But

1907
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: you know, that was one dude that I was begging

1908
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: to come out, like yo, bro, I didn't want to

1909
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 1: just come out because he was that good when that

1910
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,560
Speaker 1: when he was rocking him back when I forgot that

1911
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 1: ain't done. So there's certain artists that I'm like, but

1912
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, he's an artist, so you can't really knock

1913
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: it like that's interesting within itself, you know what I'm saying.

1914
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: So there's certain artists that I feel should be way

1915
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 1: more known, that are really good lyrically that I would say,

1916
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 1: like a lot of some artists that I would say

1917
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 1: that you never never came out. But I've seen so

1918
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 1: many different rappers, you know, life like today because even

1919
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 1: the rappers now you, you'd be surprised, which was just

1920
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 1: out of respect and that are know that I'm gonna

1921
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: give the game for free because I don't think an

1922
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: o G should charge you for advice. That's your job.

1923
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 1: Anybody that charges for advice is not an o G.

1924
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 1: He's not. He's more of an asshole. You know what

1925
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you pupposed to get out of way. Oh,

1926
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I'll gott weight. Uh look look, but um, you know

1927
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 1: it's funny. I was gonna puck this one out the

1928
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: window and I was like, I'm gonna need this sho.

1929
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 1: I gotta fresh for right here from this and I

1930
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 1: gotta hit it. I will, but I you know it's

1931
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 1: a special blend that I'm very partickle about the week

1932
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 1: this year. But smoke, but probably know I don't want

1933
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't want you to feel pressure to do anything. No, no, no,

1934
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: don't tin gonna hit you a little different. Yeah, this

1935
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 1: seven leaves is no O G. It's OK. Stuck on

1936
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 1: the island. Three shows or movies, You're watching on repeat. Oh,

1937
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm always on It depends on who I'm with the

1938
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: last time I was. But I'm by myself. Why would

1939
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: I go to island? Man? Just answer the question. I'm

1940
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 1: not Lenny Kravitz. I'm answering the question. Come on, ship,

1941
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 1: you got three movies to show, you go watch? I

1942
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: love this? Why would go by myself? Probably like scar

1943
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 1: facing god Father? You know, if I'm by myself, I'm

1944
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: gonna watch some gangster ship. But if I'm on the

1945
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 1: island like full of Girls, I probably watched The L

1946
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: Word or something like that. I mean, it depends on

1947
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: my company. But if I'm by myself, I usually watch

1948
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 1: gangster ship, some sick documentaries. Yes, that's happy the same

1949
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 1: way too. Should I rather just watch myself? To anybody?

1950
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: The gangster joint? Like when I'm like usually like if

1951
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 1: I ever have this doesn't happen in a while, but

1952
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: you know where like there'll be a Sunday and they're

1953
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 1: playing like the Godfather, I'll be stuck the whole day.

1954
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 1: Once upon a time in America, Yeah, like nighttime when

1955
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: Rocky falls asleep, that's when I get to watch like

1956
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:21,799
Speaker 1: all my knarcos, and I like Peaky Blinders, Peaky Blinds

1957
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 1: that I can't wait for the new season. You know,

1958
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 1: I know that real family. Yeah you know Tyson, Tyson Furies,

1959
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: that's his family. Really, you see they say the Furies right, um, yeah,

1960
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: they referenced the Furies. That's his family. M hmm. Now

1961
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: and that ship is dope, is it? Ship? Me is dope.

1962
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 1: That's so dope. So I don't know the Fury, but

1963
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 1: I know that like the other I'll tell you what.

1964
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: But but like when I was watching, I said, I

1965
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 1: bet that's about them, and that was I was like,

1966
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,839
Speaker 1: oh ship, but they fresh on there too. I've actually designed,

1967
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 1: but I just you know, I designed everything away. I

1968
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 1: usually designed, but I just designed. I've been inspired. I've

1969
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: designed suits based on Peaky blind College around. And I

1970
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: also used to watch The gold Father. If you look

1971
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 1: at the Goldfather suits and the Goldfather crazy, so like,

1972
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'm meant the fashion right. So I used

1973
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: to like, I have a bunch of old movies because

1974
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 1: back in the day, that's when everybody used to wear suits.

1975
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: And if you look at the suits in the old movies,

1976
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker's suits is cold cold. So I always watched old

1977
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: movies to get inspired to make you know what I

1978
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 1: do because I make suits, I make everything, but I

1979
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,599
Speaker 1: just do it in a way like it's more boutique

1980
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: for for like like for me, I don't know that.

1981
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm more like Vinyl, you know

1982
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I don't want to be so

1983
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 1: pop cultural. To me, that gets kind of like I

1984
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: don't want everybody. I want you to be in the know.

1985
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 1: I want, like I said, I wanted to be a

1986
01:49:53,560 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 1: certain level of fan, a smart, cultured sort of a following.

1987
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: Like again, all that matters to me is I'm celebrated

1988
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: by my family, which is my culture. So as long

1989
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 1: as I'm famous there for doing certain things, that's all

1990
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: I want. So I guess the point I was making

1991
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: is a lot of what I do is not meant

1992
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: for everybody, like damn everything, because I've already tried to

1993
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: speak people that just don't talk boss. They talk slave,

1994
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 1: and I can't talk slave, and I don't expect them

1995
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:29,719
Speaker 1: to talk boss. I don't understand slave. I don't expect

1996
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 1: them to understand boss. You know what I'm saying. But

1997
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 1: at first, I did, you know, being young and being

1998
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:40,759
Speaker 1: like oh, when I get to this level. I'm expecting

1999
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 1: people to be so much better than me because they've

2000
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 1: done it, you know. I'm looking at people on TV

2001
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 1: and and when I get to these big corporations, I'm like,

2002
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: just this who's running this ship all this time? Very disappointing.

2003
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 1: So I learned really early. M Like, I think about

2004
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:08,480
Speaker 1: all the things I did with using other people's money,

2005
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 1: are working with bigger corporations, but really think about everything

2006
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: I've done on my own. And for me, it was

2007
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't winning unless I did it on my own.

2008
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 1: That was the challenge to myself because I already got

2009
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 1: there the other way so fast. It's so easy to

2010
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, work with them, and but you gotta sert

2011
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:29,759
Speaker 1: it's not easy because you gotta serve up your culture.

2012
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Like what I was finding on the other side is

2013
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:34,640
Speaker 1: the more I served up my culture, the more I

2014
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: was being celebrated. And I was like, once I became

2015
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: aware of that, you can't look the other way. I

2016
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 1: just think that's the problem. People look the other way,

2017
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:52,720
Speaker 1: and I just don't. I can't thank you. Sure, the

2018
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: funniest thing that's happened to you recently, someone of your

2019
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: one of your friendsis did or something funny thing happened

2020
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: to me as Nicola, what I do stupid lately? We

2021
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:10,440
Speaker 1: do a lot of stupid ship at the nine o'clock. Oh,

2022
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: that's just probably walking to the glass I walked. That

2023
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 1: was the funny ship to you that she found that funny. Yeah,

2024
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 1: I walked in. It was I was that was I

2025
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: was saying. I was, So this is what happened. Right,

2026
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: So I had They had given me an ice coffee,

2027
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 1: and we was going to do an interview with an

2028
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 1: artist that I worked with, Hassan, and it was with

2029
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,719
Speaker 1: the dude that made unturage. I was doing him a favor,

2030
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 1: but I didn't realize they were live. So I was

2031
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: late because I was doing something else. So we got there.

2032
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 1: I didn't want to leave the coffee in there, because

2033
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to pick up one coffee,

2034
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 1: you know whatever, So I took it to throw it away.

2035
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: So I'm walking with the dog and I'm walking and

2036
01:52:56,800 --> 01:53:00,040
Speaker 1: they got all the cameras on me. They care you

2037
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,639
Speaker 1: could google it because it was like on TMG. So

2038
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 1: and I walked right into the fucking wall boat. But

2039
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: I did it so cool that I edited it up

2040
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: myself and put it out just to see if and

2041
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 1: like I said, if you google it, Damon walks into

2042
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: a fucking wall, but actually has a TV show where

2043
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: it showcases it's like some like Larry David kind of ship,

2044
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 1: but it will be not like Larry David. It's like,

2045
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 1: you know, sarcastic. He's more sarcastic dude. And it comes

2046
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 1: on Fox. So I think next week or the week

2047
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 1: after and that that scene is in it. It was

2048
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 1: like almost like it was written for it. But I

2049
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: did walk into that glass. Thanks for that. He was

2050
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,799
Speaker 1: feeling good. He was feeling good, he said, was funny

2051
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: to you, but it was funny. It was hilarious. Actually

2052
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 1: five dinner guests dead or alive. Mm hm Yashua. I'd

2053
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:00,799
Speaker 1: like to talk to him. That's the name of Jesus,

2054
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 1: I know, you know, I picked it up. Um probably Moses. Um.

2055
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 1: I would really like to have a conversation with Bob

2056
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 1: Marley and Jimmy Andricks. I never had conversations with him,

2057
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: and I never got to see them perform live, so

2058
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: I'd be real intrigued by that. Uh, what's the dr name?

2059
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 1: Was a Hannibal that was right in the Elephants that

2060
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 1: was warring everybody. I would definitely love to kick it

2061
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: away Aheadible Malcolm x Martin, Luther, King to hell. But

2062
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 1: tell you, oh, King cut, I want to talk to

2063
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 1: King tutt m damn it. I need to talk to

2064
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: Alexander the Great Julius Sees. I want to talk to him.

2065
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: There you go, who do you want to smoke with it? Well,

2066
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 1: all the people, all of them by Morley if I could,

2067
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 1: that's it, Mary and Jimmy and Ricks we wrote it.

2068
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 1: That would be crazy dude, right, But girls, Janis Joplin,

2069
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: I would love to myself just funny you say that

2070
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: she's from my hometown put Texas. Yeah, she's rock and

2071
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 1: uh Elvis, I'd be like, yo, you, I want to

2072
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 1: have it. I want to have like a dance off

2073
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: when you stole my ship. But I would want to

2074
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: talk to him because he was He was cool though,

2075
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 1: but he was still kind of racist for her. But huh.

2076
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 1: Other than that, you know, let me ask this question.

2077
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 1: I want I want this opinion on this. What was

2078
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: your opinion on part um? I was like in the

2079
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 1: middle of what was going on with pot Again, it

2080
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 1: was a sad thing, but it wasn't a surprising thing,

2081
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, so again, you know us, we was looking

2082
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 1: at it like damn, he's powerful, but he was causing

2083
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 1: a lot of problems, you know, with with the East

2084
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 1: West Ship, and it was just like it was it

2085
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 1: was the way they wanted it to happen. And that's

2086
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 1: where they had me tight. You know. It was like

2087
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 1: they it was like they wanted that crash. That was

2088
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 1: like a big advertisement for what happens if you have

2089
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 1: a voice, and I didn't. I didn't. I didn't think

2090
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 1: he deserved that narrative for them, you know. But it's

2091
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 1: almost like for me, he he almost knew what was

2092
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: going to happen, and to me, that's why he was

2093
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 1: making so many records so his voice would still be

2094
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: here when he was not so like to me, he

2095
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 1: was preparing for that, and I was just wondering, like,

2096
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's just for me, sustainability is important, right

2097
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 1: and maybe that comes from you know, hustling, Like how

2098
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 1: do I never go to jail? And that's that's what

2099
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about. Did you ever listen Rosit in

2100
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: the car and popping the Tupac tape? I was, I

2101
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 1: was in the East Coast, and you know, it was

2102
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 1: a little friction there. But yeah, actually, yeah, hell yeah,

2103
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 1: yeah we all listened about No, you can't deny you

2104
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 1: have from quick some flarer ship bats that should. I

2105
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: really like to know that, because, like I said that,

2106
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 1: that's why I had turned real. But at the same time,

2107
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 1: you gotta respect motherfucker's music. Yeah, you know, any any

2108
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 1: any tragic ending. It's always like the wid if right,

2109
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 1: and you know, people evolve like I'm a completely the

2110
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 1: same but different person than I was twenty years This

2111
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 1: is me twenty years later. And I'm lucky enough to

2112
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: have documented every part of my life and also so

2113
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 1: I could see myself at twenty thirty, forty and fifty.

2114
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 1: You know, my my my photo album is you know, televised.

2115
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean at any decade for the

2116
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: last three or four I'm never certain ways. Last question,

2117
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 1: but before I go to this last question, we got

2118
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 1: something for you, bro, and then you come and lead

2119
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 1: them to hand it. We got all the smoke backpack

2120
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 1: with some gear. Who made this? This is uh what's

2121
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 1: the name. It's a black company that I work with

2122
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 1: out of North Carolina. Why am I forgetting this day

2123
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 1: right now? You're going on your business high blame it

2124
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 1: on the way, not my heart. Yeah, all the smoke store,

2125
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 1: you can go get it. We got everything, hats all

2126
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 1: type of business. You see me with it on looking

2127
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 1: fly the same. I got something. I got something awhere

2128
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 1: this way right now. I love when you get something

2129
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: to like know what I've been looking for this color

2130
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 1: right here. Shout out to the CEO Gil, thank you.

2131
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 1: I got. I got some shoes and some girl from

2132
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 1: him that he blessed me with. So we didn't go

2133
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: to the gallop. Actually I laid shut up. I come

2134
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 1: to the old ship Fox with you. That's why I

2135
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 1: with you. Last question, man, it's going to knock just

2136
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 1: from now. If you can have if you can have

2137
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 1: a guest on All the Smoke, who would it be?

2138
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 1: But before you answer your question, you have to help

2139
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 1: us get your answer on this show. I want you

2140
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 1: to get Jerry Jones on the show. Mm hmmm. So

2141
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 1: you gotta help us, I am. I just called him out.

2142
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I got some questions for him too. Yeah yeah,

2143
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: cowboy friend, I got questions for him too. I just

2144
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 1: want to know why I ain't no black owners. That's

2145
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 1: all we know why. No, I want to know why

2146
01:59:56,360 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 1: he justifies it. His You know, I tried to buy

2147
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders and uh you know when they were moving

2148
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 1: to Vegas. I actually called the president and all that

2149
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 1: quote ray Lewis we saw getting money together. You know,

2150
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 1: raise a powerful guy. Nobody knows what he's doing mine

2151
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 1: this scene. I don't even know if I can speak

2152
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 1: on it, but he'd be trying to do ship. You know,

2153
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,400
Speaker 1: he tried to buy a team. They wouldn't let him

2154
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:25,360
Speaker 1: buy it. He had the bread. How could you not

2155
02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 1: let ray Lewis buy it too? Like? How do you

2156
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 1: justify that? How do you can't even think he's not

2157
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 1: How could you do that? That's you know, that's crazy,

2158
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like I just want to know why, right,

2159
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 1: I want to be an industry conqueror. I think I've

2160
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 1: done that, or at least change things, at least change

2161
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 1: the way we're treated. So you know, hopefully he hears me.

2162
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 1: M M, well man, we want to thank you for

2163
02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 1: your time. True lessons. One more thing, HBU. I don't

2164
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 1: like the way they treat that was that the HB

2165
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:06,840
Speaker 1: I want to say, right the HBCU. I don't see

2166
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 1: no more gramming games. These kids aren't getting covered. Only

2167
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 1: one go to the league, and I want to do

2168
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 1: something there as well, So stay tuned every time that

2169
02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that a lot. But it's just the thing

2170
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 1: about me is just when things bother me, I can't

2171
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: just hear all this complaining all the time, and I'm

2172
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 1: seeing all of us so damaged and bruised behind it.

2173
02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 1: It's like everybody that comes out professional league is like

2174
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 1: kind of funked up a little bit for real, And

2175
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:44,320
Speaker 1: a lot of it is over the trauma that comes

2176
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 1: with being a professional. And why why when your dreams

2177
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,360
Speaker 1: come true for doing something you love, you gotta end

2178
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:54,839
Speaker 1: up damage. So we gotta change that ship. But again,

2179
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 1: we gotta change that ship. They're not going to change it,

2180
02:01:57,640 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: and talking about it ain't gonna do it. All it

2181
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:04,360
Speaker 1: does is say it's just flagrant to when you when

2182
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 1: people recognize your concerns and you're giving me your boundaries

2183
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 1: and they still violate. Why I keep asking, So I

2184
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: just want to I just want to give it a track.

2185
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:16,280
Speaker 1: You know, nothing matter that. We appreciate your time, a

2186
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 1: legend in the space. Yeah, obviously, your your your your

2187
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 1: contributions to society, to our culture in particular, man, And

2188
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 1: it's been incredible man, and have you take time to

2189
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 1: sit down on our show man, it means a lot

2190
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 1: to us. Can I ask one question? How strong is

2191
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:32,120
Speaker 1: the plug? Is? Show? You could do whatever you want?

2192
02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 1: Over there, we're doing some things. Pass the plug. Let's talk.

2193
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:39,600
Speaker 1: I just like you know. I'm telling you I got

2194
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 1: you should should didn't make a move. Let's talk. We

2195
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:45,960
Speaker 1: got we got some things cooking. They must you're killing

2196
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 1: it right over here. You must be yeah, definitely, yeah,

2197
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: we're cooking, cooking. I would I would love to have

2198
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,840
Speaker 1: your guidance and cook more. I'll tell you. Come on. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a rap man. We want to thank Dame Dash

2200
02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 1: for us time you can. That's just a Showtime Basketball

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Speaker 1: YouTube and the Heart Platform Black Effects. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: all next week. This is all a smoke a production

2203
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Speaker 1: of The Black Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Showtime