1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, Happy holidays, everybody. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: This is Project Nil with Danny the Bernardinas, the ad 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: for Penn Sharter High School, one of the oldest high 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: schools in the country. I'm Anthony Gargano from The Fellas 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: and we dive into Project NI. L and uh. By 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: the way, every goal starts with an assist on and 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: off the field. 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Because private equity is here. 17 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: It's going to change the entire landscape of college sports, 18 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: and it's here in the great state of Utah. So 19 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna touch on that. I want to touch on 20 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: this new phenomenon of high school kids now leaving their 21 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: states and going from school to school. Remind you anything, 22 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: just like college. All Right, I got some mail bag 23 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: stuff we're gonna get in the camps and we're gonna 24 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: get the whole bunch of stuff. So lots of go 25 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: over today during the show. Let's start my brother with 26 00:01:54,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: private equity. PE is in the college landscape, and it's here. Ah. 27 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: The more it's amazing every day, the more convoluted this 28 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: world gets. 29 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: It's it's ever we always say every week, it's ever changing. Right, 30 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: we don't know what's gonna happen next. And this is 31 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: just another example of it. Utah is the University of 32 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: Utah is you know, merging or you know, having a 33 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: partnership with Otro, which is a capital private equity firm 34 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: to give an infusion of cash about five hundred million dollars, 35 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: which is crazy, right, Like I thought private equity might 36 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: come into the mid majors first, right, because they need 37 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: to find a way to compete. 38 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: They might not have the boosters or they might not 39 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 4: have you know. 40 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: The collectives to support these college programs and these nil deals. 41 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: I didn't think it would be at like a Power 42 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: five conference, right, because they have huge alumni bases and 43 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: they have money. So this is just a first domino 44 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: to fall. But it's gonna continue, right, I mean, they're in, 45 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: so we'll dive into. 46 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: A little bit more. 47 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: But it's it's something that I never foresaw, you know, happening, 48 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: and now it's here. 49 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: So for I guess for layman terms, what we're talking 50 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: about is private equity groups come in and they basically 51 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: buy or lease. It's really a lease of the athletic 52 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: program and it's basically owners. Now I'd heard that some 53 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: of the bigger Power five schools were being looked at 54 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: by billionaires. Yeah, so if you look around at the 55 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: NFL and some of the groups like Josh Harris, say, 56 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: let's look at Harris Blitzer Entertainment. They own the Commanders. 57 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: They also own the Devils in the NHL and the 58 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Sixers in the NBA. They also own a soccer team 59 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: and that's Yats. Harris is the UH is the chairman 60 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: of Harris Blitzer Entertainment. And like I, you know, I 61 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: had heard that they're they were looking into college that 62 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: you know that there's some there's some talk about the 63 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: billionaires and then the private equity firms going into colleges 64 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: and basically leasing their programs. So they would control everything 65 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: from parking into concessions to the gate right to they 66 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: would provide structure to the program, right, Like, so they 67 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: would own the football program. Now in Utah, you know that, Uh, 68 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: it's just it's just is it just football and basketball? 69 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: How's it working? 70 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: So the private equity group, they're creating this entity called 71 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: Utah Brands and Entertainment LLC. So that will run all 72 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: the revenue generating operations through all their sports, so sponsorships, ticketing, licensing, media, hospitality, right, 73 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: all that stuff kind of like what owners do and 74 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: and you know professional sports, right yeah, so. 75 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: It's over payroll. 76 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're going to give this influx of cash 77 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: that's going to help you know, raise with you know, 78 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: help with the costs of arising and financial deficits due 79 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: to nil right, And it's like a revenue sharing, right, 80 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: it's going to offset it. So Utah's president and athletic 81 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: director will still control major decisions around coaches and operations, 82 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: you know, schedulings and student athletes, but. 83 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: They're kinda in every other spot. 84 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: So this firm will have hire a president that will 85 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: work hand in hand with the athletic director and president 86 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: in school. So it is there's a group, you know, 87 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: they they kind of have someone answer to. They're giving 88 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: them this huge influx of cash, you know, to help 89 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: them compete. But also like they're not doing it for anything. 90 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: It's not just some billionaire's given back to their school. 91 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: They're expecting returns on this money. Right, This is an 92 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: investment much like professional owners, right, like they buy the teams, 93 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: but they also do it because they have a passion 94 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: or love. But also they do it because it's a 95 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: really smart investment. 96 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: Right. 97 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: These entities grow and have a much larger evaluation down 98 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: the end. So there are obviously a lot of opportunity 99 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: for UTAH, but also there's a lot of risk at 100 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: the same time. 101 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: Well, the risk is on the private equity, right, I 102 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: mean because look, what we're talking about basically is a 103 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: rev share of the conference money for TV. Right, Like, 104 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: that's your biggest check. So your biggest check is coming 105 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: from television and the conference is and it is a 106 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: novel thing too, because how soon until these private equity 107 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: people go wait a second, you know, we could join 108 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: the common for it's but you guys aren't going to 109 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: control who we are. There is gonna be a The 110 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: next thing is the CBA with the players, and then 111 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: within the within the order of the conference, because right 112 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: now the conference is making make it bank ye right right, Like, well, 113 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: who's to say to these teams like it? All they 114 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: are is a structure in the league, like the league 115 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: itself is its own entity. 116 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're gonna come in and help. Well, they're gonna, 117 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: you know, with these conferences, they're gonna have more of 118 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: a say. These firms are gonna come in with these 119 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: teams and they're gonna try to maximize the dollar. Right, 120 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: So there's gonna be the investors. You know, they think 121 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: there's so much more probably potential that they're not touching. 122 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: So that's also something that are gonna come in and say, hey, 123 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: like we're gonna help you grow this. We're gonna be 124 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: like your agent on this part. Right, We're gonna negotiate 125 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: with conferences. We're gonna negotiate these media deals for you. 126 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna help you, you know, grow the revenue staff. 127 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: We're going to help you grow the marketing branding teams. 128 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: Right, We're gonna help you be more strategic with your 129 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: an IL impact. 130 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: On things. 131 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: So it's again a whole new world we're diving in 132 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: with a wild man, so much about it every single time, 133 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: and like so like the one question for me is 134 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: like what's the what's the oversight look like? Because this 135 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: is a new entity that might not have the same 136 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: like public reporting rules as a university. Right, so they're 137 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: super involved, but like where's the transparency, Like who's I mean, 138 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: there's governing bodies that I'm saying that loosely now, but 139 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: like who's to say like what what that looks like? 140 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: Right for them? Yeah? Well, all right, because like what 141 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: do you think the NCAA's gonna have power over these 142 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: over these private equity firms? 143 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, right, I mean that transparency question, 144 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: like where where does that look like? 145 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: Well, and now like here's the on the rasue right, 146 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: Like so these private equity firms now go all right, 147 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: you know there there's no real rules with salary cap yep. 148 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: So it's like anything else, it's gonna go wild. Like 149 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: so you get these players that are so good they're 150 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: gonna say, well, it's worth taking loss here because I'm 151 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: going to make it up with you know, my marketing 152 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: deals my shoe deals right, Like it is unbelievable, Like 153 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: we are living in a wild time, Like this is 154 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: the Like we we're living through the change of collegiate 155 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: sports in the most dramatic way. Like we're actually living 156 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: through I can't, I can't fat of it, Like we're 157 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: actually Like think about you're an athletic director, when you 158 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: first get into you're thirty seven years old. Think about 159 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: when you first came into the field. I mean, the 160 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: A D in college was like the god. Yeah, Like 161 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: the A D was the most powerful guy at the 162 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: university with the president, you know, I mean it was 163 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: legitimate president, but the A D wielded real power. Then 164 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: when sports blew up, like you go to these you 165 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: go to these a lot of these states, like look 166 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: at look at Louisiana. 167 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, who's who's the who's the power? 168 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: Right the governor? The governor's but they got you know, 169 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: because sports got so big that all of a sudden, 170 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 2: the governors evolved. Now you got private equity. So you go, 171 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: where's the A D. The A D is been neutered. 172 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: I'm in Louisiana. We talked about it. 173 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: The governor came out and said he didn't like the 174 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: contracts that he made. He was fired the next two 175 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: days later. 176 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, he didn't like the Brian Kelly contract. 177 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so and he said, I don't like the you know, 178 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 3: the Jimbo Fisher one. I liked Brian Kelly. So you 179 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: know what, he trashed them publicly and then two days later. 180 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: The guys without a job. 181 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: But another thing is like the university on paper, you know, 182 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: they have control, right, but revenue pressure increases the expectations. 183 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: You know, these investors timelines, right, they have these timelines 184 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: and expectations they're laying out for their for their company 185 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: that could, you know, clash with what the school academic 186 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: wants to do or how they want to invest their money, right, 187 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: they might those timelines have to match up, and then 188 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: these decisions are making now are going to be directly 189 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: influenced by these financial goals, which universities at its core 190 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: always didn't do. 191 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: Right. 192 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 4: They obviously wanted to be profitable to have long term. 193 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: But it was about education at one point, even though 194 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: like there was always like a well, you know, he's 195 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: taking basket weaving. That was like the big deal, like 196 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: in the nineties, right, like what classes is he really 197 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: taking hey is he? There was a movie written by 198 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 2: a great, great writer, great friend of mine, Ron Shelton. 199 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 4: Called Blue Chips Lot. 200 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: All right, so Shaq Petty Hardaway, Uh the are it's 201 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: basically been Nick Nolty's a basketball coach and he takes 202 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: over like a U. C. L. A type of school, 203 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: and you know, like it's it's the card dealership. The 204 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: card dealer. Uh, the guy who owns five car dealerships. 205 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: Happy right, he's the he's the big money guy. He's 206 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: buying players. You know, he gets the he gets the 207 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: guy from Fritz Lick, Indiana, like the Larry Bird character 208 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: gives a fill the track there, you know, bag of cash. 209 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: Right like now like foresight look at that dude, right like, 210 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: look at he. They knew it, they knew it was coming. 211 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: Well, that was going on back in the day, like 212 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: LB right like like that like that was the nineties. 213 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: But when you think about it, it's almost like like 214 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: cute like Shaw, Well, look at the car dealer guy. 215 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: He's giving it away. You're giving some of some cars 216 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: and players. Now you're talking about millions of dollars, like 217 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: you're talking about real, real money to kids. And then 218 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: now the agents We're gonna have an agent on next 219 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: week and an il agent. I mean, this stuff is 220 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: this isn't like cute anymore. This is real big sports business. Yeah. 221 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: Coach oh is on a podcast this week and he 222 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: said he was joking, but they so, he said, someone 223 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: asked me, like, how I'm gonna adapt to this nil error. 224 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: He goes, well, the main difference is I'm gonna walk 225 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: in the front door with the cash, not the back door. 226 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's true. Well it's true, but now the 227 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: catch it's just a bit right, and it's a it's 228 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: a big. 229 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 4: Fat check and I pay taxes on it. 230 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: Now, Yes, this isn't you know, Hey, you know I 231 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: got I gotta I got to ten dimes in the 232 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: bag and a brown bag. This isn't anything like that. 233 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: This is real money, real big business and television and 234 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: uh you know media deals like you know, when you 235 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: think about it, the media deal, the media deals for 236 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: some of the schools are huge. Like take Indiana, all right, 237 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: Like when you think about it, what's your competition? You 238 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: got the colts, you got because now you got the 239 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: whole state, right, you got the pacers And what's that 240 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: not a fever? A little bit the fever, right, right, 241 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: But you got no baseball and no hockey. Right in 242 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: the university it's still the biggest thing. Like you got 243 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: Notre Dame up north, but Indiana University's a big deal, right. 244 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: You know many people in that state you don't have 245 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: gone there. It means something. The brand that the colors, 246 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, all that stuff means something. It's a valuable entity. 247 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: So the media rights, you know, Indiana, the media rights 248 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: are going to be worth more than the Pacers. 249 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: Oh for sure. 250 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: I mean they just paid their coach, football coach who 251 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: whatever thought that a football coach in Indiana would be getting 252 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: a hundred million dollars, right, I mean Signetti, I mean 253 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: he is, like he's one of the best in the business. 254 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: But I never would have thought that Indiana football would 255 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: have that type of investment in it, right. 256 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: But that just shows you the power these universities. 257 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: The other question I have in is like what's the 258 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: trip the ripple down effect from this right to sports 259 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: in the youth world? And I some things is like, 260 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: you know, branding starts earlier. You know, we're rooting is 261 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: going to start earlier. These families are still going to 262 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: feel this pressure to treat now high schools like minor leagues. 263 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: Right. 264 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: It used to be the college was like this, you know, 265 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: rev up to professional. Now it's going to start even 266 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: younger and younger. 267 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: And I think for. 268 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: High school and for people like me and my profession, 269 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: like transfers are still going to happen much more. There's 270 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: going to be people who have these questions about nil constantly, 271 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: right and have realistic and very unrealistic expectations of it. 272 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: Right. 273 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: So I think this is this show is great because 274 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: we're trying to inform parents about this landscape which no 275 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: one really knows how it's changing. Like this is brand new. 276 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: We're winness in history, We're in history right now. 277 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what and again that that trickle down effect 278 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: to the to the parents of these athletes, you know, 279 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, one of the things I think 280 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: you need right away is representation. You're you're gonna have 281 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: the influx of private equity model sports that now that 282 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: means all right, well, now you've got the agents involved, 283 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: you know, like the expansion of the agency has to 284 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: be now involved, right, Like when you look at that, and. 285 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: Like, what what do I take away from this? Is 286 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: like schools are admitting. 287 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 4: That this is broken. 288 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: Right, that the fact that they have to go out 289 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: and like basically show us part of it, right, Yeah, 290 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: and you know college athletics. It's it's we've talked about 291 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: each week. This is another step to be professional sports. 292 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: This is just another huge step into saying, hey, this 293 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: is a professional sports thing, right And what's next? 294 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: Right? 295 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: We don't know, but it's it's continued to change, Like 296 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: there's what's the next thing is gonna drop? 297 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: Who knows? 298 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: You know? So, like, well, it's it's grown too big. 299 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: It's grown too big. Now you start to think about it. 300 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 2: Do these universities lose their tax execs? Like you know 301 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: there their tax eempt status? Right? Because now your your business? Yeah? 302 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 4: Right, so how does that work? Right? Like how does 303 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: how do we govern this? Or how do we even 304 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 4: look at it? 305 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: Like it? Yeah, because you'll think it too is like 306 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: what happened to education? 307 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: Man? 308 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: Like that's a real question. 309 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: And we've talked about this one hundred percent before. 310 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: One percent of high school athletes play at a high 311 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 3: level college. 312 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: One percent of that make it pro. So it always 313 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: was fall back on your education, fall back on your network. 314 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: You also have to yeah, you also have to value it, right. 315 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like that or like going for fit right, 316 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: like going for what's best for you long term. This 317 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: nil money has people, you know, so driven on it 318 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 3: that those things are just getting pushed aside. And I'm 319 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: curious to see the impact of these kids who go 320 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: and chase his money and get some money, but not 321 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 3: life changing money to set them up for the rest 322 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: of their lives. How are they what do they fall 323 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: back on afterwards? Because we don't know yet because we 324 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: haven't seen it. 325 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because you're also gone now you're gonna get 326 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: a degree from somewhere, you know, we presume that you're 327 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: gonna take it a little bit serious, and that's always 328 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: been in that case. It's just it's wild. We're gonna 329 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: take quick t o. I do want to get involved 330 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: in the trickle down effect of what we're seeing at 331 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 2: the college level to high school because suddenly the portal 332 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: is wide open in high school. It's just a little different. 333 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: We'll discuss that coming up next. 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All right, I want to turn this into 359 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: I want to I want to actually address some of 360 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: the high school stuff going on off of this. So 361 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 2: we see the Professoral's ace of college and it's it's 362 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: only a matter of time before it trickles down to 363 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: high school. So here's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing a portal, 364 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: only in a different way. Kids leaving their high schools, 365 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: going out of state sometimes for what Danny d tell 366 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: us about this phenomenon. 367 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're no longer just transferring schools, right, They're relocating 368 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: teenagers and their lives, you know, because they think it's 369 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 3: going to set them up right. And you know, there's 370 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: a lot of different factors for it, right, why you know, 371 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: and there's so many different people in it, right. And 372 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: it's more so football and basketball, right, the two big 373 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: money driving sports. 374 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: But kids are moving right before. 375 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: Season, during a season, you know, they're moving from Ohio 376 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: to California, right to these bigger states where there's a 377 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: lot of high level competition. So it's always it's happened 378 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: at a very small Equlip, but now it's growing, and 379 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: now it's happening more rapidly, and it's just a this 380 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: is a trickle down of this nil culture. 381 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: Right. 382 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: So the montstory that you know has triggered this for 383 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: me is Tyron Stokes, number one basketball prospect in the country, 384 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: still uncommitted, elite basketball player, six seven sixty eight, two 385 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty pounds, just you know, absolute specimen, just specimen. 386 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 3: But he was in California at Notre Dame Academy and 387 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: right before the basketball season started in November, he transferred 388 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: to Seattle, Washington to play for Jamal Crawford's high school 389 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: where he went and is like, you know, they just 390 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 3: named the gym after him and his son, JJ Crawford 391 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: is a freshman but an elite prospect as well, and 392 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: he moved literally mid midyear to another school and is 393 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: playing because he wanted he felt like he needed more exposure. 394 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: He's already number one player in the country, right, But 395 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: there's a lot of factors, like, you know, it's it's 396 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: the trainers, it's these circuit coaches, it's these you know, 397 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: brand people who are tied and there's so many different 398 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: people who have their hands out in this business. Because 399 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: it's more a business now than ever. Everyone wants a 400 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: piece of the pie, so they're pushing people for their 401 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: own you know, gain opposed to saying, hey, this is 402 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: a kid. 403 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 4: What's best for him and his family? Right now. 404 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: There's so many people who are trying to get a 405 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: piece of this pie, and it's it's scary for these 406 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 3: kids to navigate it. 407 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: And if you don't have these if. 408 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: Your parents or your guardians, or you know, your circle 409 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: isn't aware or you know, isn't you know, isn't stable 410 00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: enough for you. 411 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: You're moving everywhere, You're all over the country, and you're. 412 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: Not you're not experiencing, you know, these great years of 413 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: your life because you're on the move. 414 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 4: You're fifteen sixteen. 415 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: I got a question about this thing. So if the 416 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: kids in Notre Dame, what do you where are you 417 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: going from there? It's like, that's a great school, plays 418 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: great competition. 419 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're in California. It's a great state. 420 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: You know. That's my question. So what's the goal? 421 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, more exposure. I don't know, maybe being closer to Nike. 422 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: Like I don't know what what the factors are playing 423 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: Jamal Crawford, You're already the number one player in the country, right, 424 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: You're already in your senior year. You've four or five 425 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: months left of school, right, so why relocate at that time? 426 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 2: Right? 427 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: So there's who knows what he's being told or who's 428 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: pushing this on him and his family. But it's crazy 429 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: to happen. I mean, you see it. 430 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 3: Kids are moving across country. We We've highlighted Chris Henry 431 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: multiple times. He's an elite you know, son of former 432 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: NFL player, I think, the best receiver in the country. 433 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 3: He's staying committed to Ohio State, but he's from Ohio. 434 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: His after his sophomore year he moved to California to 435 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: play for Modern Day. Moved across the country in high school. Right, 436 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: he would have been elite no matter what. But I'm 437 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: sure people said, hey, you got to play here, You'll 438 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: get on ESPN. Morris will help your progression. You need 439 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: to be around you know, this coach or that coach 440 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: and again the people involved in it. 441 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: But what gets long, Llian? 442 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: What does it mean? 443 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: Like what does it really mean? Like I guess that's 444 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: you know, uprooting and moving across the country. Like I 445 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: got a buddy of mine and I think you know 446 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: him who has a son who's a very good player. 447 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: He's a football player, very good player, and he's thinking 448 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: about moving to another state, right, And what happens to 449 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: like like like why what, why are you doing it like, 450 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: I I don't know why you would do it. You know, 451 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: I guess there's a chance that you're in a better state, 452 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: Like if the state's Texas, if it's football, does that 453 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: mean you're going to get bigger offers from bigger schools? 454 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: But man, it feels like a lot when you know 455 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: kids are good, If the kid is good, what do 456 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: we do it? 457 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, there's these rare scenarios that 458 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: it's like, hey, this really helped. But and I think 459 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: the majority is you get lost in the shuffle, right, 460 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: You're chasing something that's not there, and you might end 461 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 3: up playing less. You know, you're not you know, you're 462 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: going through this transition where you're you know, your life's 463 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: geting up rooted. You're not putting yourself in the best situation. 464 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: And what what gets lost in it is like these 465 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: are kids. They need stability. Right, You're going to a 466 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 3: new school, you're getting a new coach, you're gotting new teams, 467 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 3: you're living a new house. You have to figure out 468 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: how you're getting to him from school. 469 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 2: Right. 470 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: It's disruptive for an adult. I can't imagine for a 471 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 3: teenager going through this. 472 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: And this is not college, right, like where they're a 473 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: little bit more Look, and we know now I just 474 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: read a story that adolescence doesn't end until we're now 475 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: thirty one years old. Yeah, I just read this story, 476 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: so all right, so I get it. In college, it's 477 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: right a passage you know, for those who go away, 478 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: those who can, who can afford it and go away 479 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: and whatever. They go to college. They're eighteen years old, 480 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: you know, you're you're a kid, fifteen, sixteen, Like I 481 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: have a sixteen year old at home, right, he just 482 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: turned sixteen. There's no way in the world that he's 483 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: equipped to live without me or my wife. He can't 484 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: like you know, like he is school, right, he's a 485 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: good student, right, sports and it'll plays video games with 486 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: his buddies. That's his life, right. Yeah, when it comes 487 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: to food, you know, that's us right, clothing like just 488 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: you know, the teaching game, the way of the world. 489 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: He's not ready to be out by himself one hundred and. 490 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 4: Like we talked about it earlier. 491 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 3: At the education piece gets lost, right because curriculums are 492 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: different at schools. You're bouncing around like you're not really 493 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: fully getting experienced, and the reality that no one really 494 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: talks about is for every kid that jumps the rankings, 495 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: it's probably five extra. 496 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 4: The kids will. 497 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: Disappear because they'll move, they'll sit, they'll transfer again, they'll 498 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: get burnt out. And now they're seventeen eighteen with you know, 499 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 3: like no network. Right we talk about I know, friends, friends, network, 500 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: Like how who you're going to rely on later in life? 501 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: Right, Like, now are seventeen with no. 502 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: Real home base, no real network to fall back on, 503 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: our you know community to to really connect to. 504 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 4: And that's the most important. 505 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: I mean, like me talked about it like I became 506 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: an ad very young. It was because of my network 507 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: and having the sense of community and being around you 508 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: know things. I got an opportunity. 509 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: I was very blessed. But you lose all that when. 510 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: You're when you're bouncing around, and for one kid that 511 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: is successful for it, there's probably twenty or thirty that 512 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: get lost in the shuffle. 513 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's healthy. I don't. I don't. 514 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: I don't see where I don't see what good it does. 515 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: Now the flip side is and let me let me 516 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: throw it. Because I did have this conversation with somebody else, 517 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: the hockey people, the hockey people when you're fourteen fifteen, 518 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 2: you're out playing juniors and you're living across the country. 519 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: Friends of mine from South Philly, all right, which is 520 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: a very tight neighborhood, you know, en clave hockey place, which. 521 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 4: You wouldn't expect, big hockey community. 522 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. In fact, their son was playing out in 523 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 2: uh in Nebraska. 524 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: Bechican Minnesota, you know, yeah, people you know, Midwest. And 525 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: then also you know obviously it was closer to Canada, Michigan, right, yeah, Boston, 526 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: but he lives with a host family. 527 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 528 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: Another one from South Philly lives in Tri Cities, Yeah, 529 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: and lives with a host family. And they're like fifteen 530 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: years old. And I know what the mother. The mother 531 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: is like this old school kind of woman who's like 532 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: freaking out, flying out there every other week and bringing 533 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: pots of sauce. So uh, you know, my baby, my baby, 534 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: I mean, so the flip side is that, like, but 535 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: that isn't that kind of part of the culture, the 536 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: whole family, as opposed to the basketball football thing where 537 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: you're just leaving an uprooting the school and you're not 538 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: going some network of people. 539 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: That's the hockey culture, and it's it's difficult to get 540 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: recruited out of these high schools because. 541 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: Hockey is more of it. 542 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: It's a niche sport in the United States. It's not 543 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: this you know where it is in different states or 544 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: you know, in Canada, So hockey to navigate it. You're 545 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: kind of pushed to do that to get a college 546 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: scholarship and if you play that level just because we 547 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: don't have the leagues to support it. Now, that's not 548 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: true for these bigger sports, right, Like hockey is very 549 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: you know, you know, it's very unique in that situation, 550 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: and I want to make it clear I don't I'm 551 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: not against moving, you know, like or I think it 552 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: works out sometimes, right, you know, I've been kind of 553 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: down on it, but you know, some moves absolutely make 554 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: sense and for some kids they need new environments and change. 555 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: But my thing is the system pushes this. It's like 556 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: a default solution now and that wasn't it, And that's 557 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: where it becomes dangerous. Before it wasn't this default you 558 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: have to do it, you know, it was you know, 559 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: if it's a fit or you know, there's a better 560 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: opportunity for you. My thing now is it's just becoming 561 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: a default situation. Or default solution. And that's where I 562 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: that's where my problem comes in with it. 563 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I just I don't like robbing kids. 564 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: Is their childhood? Right, Like, especially when I don't know 565 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: what it does for you. I mean I think we 566 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: all have stars in your eyes their money. 567 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: Like are we building kids, players, people or building assets? 568 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: Right? 569 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 4: That's the question, right, what are we doing right? 570 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: Commodity is at the stage man, It's it's it's really 571 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: it's distressing. 572 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: You move your family around and then like you might 573 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: get an nil deal for one hundred thousand hours. Great, 574 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: you have a huge head start, but you did all 575 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: that sacrifice and you moved and you kind of uprooted 576 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: your family, and I brought you your childhood. 577 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it's you're not Yeah, I. 578 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: Mean you make you're done. You make your lifelong friends 579 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: in you know, high school, Like, what are we talking? 580 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: I had another question for you. We gotta take quick 581 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: to you. But I've already seen this, like we're seeing professionalization. 582 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: How long does it the filter down the high school? 583 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: Will we see a national high school league? I'll explain 584 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: and ants Danny coming up next, This is Project nil 585 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: Danny d the A D. Penn Charter or the oldest 586 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: high schools in the country. I'll Manethondy gar Gantta fellas 587 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: are coming up next as that we hang out here 588 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome back. This is 589 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: Project Ni L Danny de Bernadine. That's the A D 590 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: Danny D D A D. I'm Anthony Gargana, year resident 591 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: sports Dad. Hey for the best pregame shows every weekend. 592 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: I'm sure to tune into Fox Sports Radios Countdown the 593 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: Kickoff presented by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday morning, going 594 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: to count you down to all the biggest games for 595 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: three hours right up until kickoff, for all the best 596 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: plays and up to the second injury news tuned into 597 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: Countdown to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday 598 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: morning right here on Fox Sports Radio on the iHeartRadio app. 599 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: All right, Dan, I gotta run this by you so 600 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: a lot and you and I both did another show, 601 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: my local show, and we looked at two local Philadelphia 602 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: teams that won the state championship. We talked to their 603 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: coaches and both those teams play a national schedule. So 604 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: there's a handful of programs in every city region that 605 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: play a national schedule that will play the big schools 606 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: you know Florida, Texas, neighboring states. How soon until there 607 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: is like a national kind of league and they just 608 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: play a national a national schedule that then gets a 609 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: TV deal. 610 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of already happening, especially in basketball. 611 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: There's these national you know tournaments at the end of 612 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 3: this year with the Geico and you know Geico, you 613 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: know big basketball tournaments in New York where they invite 614 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: the sixteen top you know prep schools in the country 615 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 3: to come. There's national prep events. So like the teams 616 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 3: like the Mount Verbs, the IMGs, Sierra Canyon's prolific Prep 617 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 3: Link Academy, Oakhill. Right, there's these teams that recruit nationally, 618 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 3: they can board, they travel nationally, and they play only 619 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: national games. That's kind of already happening in that level. 620 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 3: It's a small group of teams, but they're basically a 621 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 3: national league without saying it's the power league. It's difficult 622 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 3: for teams to afford it consistently. So like the teams 623 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: we just talked about, they play two or three non 624 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: league games where they travel like that probably one hundred schools, 625 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 3: maybe one hundred and fifty schools high schools in the 626 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: country are able to do that. But it's a large investment. 627 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm at my previous stop at Saint Geoege Prep. 628 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: When we would play these national games. It's one hundred k. 629 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: You have to fly kids out. You know, you're flying 630 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 3: eighty to one hundred kids, You're putting them up in 631 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: a hotel for three four days, you're feeding them. It's 632 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 3: a large investment. Now that being said, are these people 633 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 3: gonna get behind it. There's gonna be money that's gonna 634 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 3: you know, continue to push it. 635 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I could draw it out for you, like, 636 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: you know, I can go grab one hundred the top. 637 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what's that called sixty. Let's start with 638 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 2: sixty of the biggest schools. Now there's predominantly It is 639 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: only interesting too because they're private schools. A lot of 640 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: them are Catholic schools. Right, So you have these schools 641 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: and then you go, you know, have an agreement, and 642 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: then you go to TV and you go, listen, we 643 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: want to create the first national This is an American entity, 644 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 2: the National High School Football League, And we're going to 645 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: go to you know, Fox one is going to televise 646 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 2: it and we're going to cover this stuff. Just thought 647 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: it I means no, but but I got news for you, 648 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: like I would watch it. 649 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I would watch it one hundred percent. Right, 650 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 4: the thing that the hurdles are. 651 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 2: Forbid, I just started thinking about the you know, then 652 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: I'll be sport the sports books on it like crazy, No, 653 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: you're right to travel. The travel is a big deal. 654 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: But like you you would have division like anything else. 655 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: So you know, let's stay East coast so you know, uh, Philadelphia, Meryl, 656 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: you know, Baltimore, Maryland, Delaware, Jersey, like you have those 657 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: regions and then then you have a national playoffs for sure. No, 658 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean your trips. 659 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 3: At one point, it was a crazy thought that would 660 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 3: it's it's you know, it seems like it's trending that 661 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 3: way because there's just so much money. And again we 662 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: talked about it just being this billion dollar industry U sports, 663 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 3: so just going to continue to trickle down. I'd be 664 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 3: curious to see how it all shakes out. But again, 665 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 3: like this weekend, just in and down in d C. 666 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 3: They're having one of the biggest high school showcases at 667 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: the Matho. 668 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: They have teams to Mathews Legendary Legendary school basketball. 669 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they host this event. 670 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 3: It's a showcase where IMG Prolific Prep Oak Hill was 671 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 3: the Tide from Utah. 672 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 4: They're all coming in for just a showcase. They're flying 673 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 4: in from all over the country and it's down d C. 674 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of local schools that play at Philly, 675 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 4: New York, you know, a lot of at Florida. 676 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: But then we're getting teach from Utah, California, you know, 677 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: like crazy that teams fly in for the showcase. 678 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 4: So just kind of touching on that. 679 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: Well, here you go. I mean the travel, we go 680 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: to the shoe companies. Yeah, I mean you're gonna get sponsorships. 681 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 2: It's like everything else. How does the college trump they're 682 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 2: big ten is in. It's from usc U c l 683 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: A to rud Curse, right, and they're playing in every sport. 684 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: So how does that happen? Right, it's the same model, 685 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: only of smaller one. But that's that's only Horizon Dan d. 686 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 3: I know, it's again we're witnessing history and we're going 687 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: through things that are just happening for the first time ever. 688 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 4: And you know we're here. We got a front row 689 00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 4: seat for it. 690 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 2: We too. 691 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: It is. 692 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: It's amazing to me, it's unbelievable. Uh, it's such a 693 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 2: fascinating world. 694 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 695 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 2: We'll continue to do with Danny. Do you have a 696 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: great week, my brother, They love you, guys. Stay tuned. 697 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: Me and Schwartzey come up next