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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: According to police, a creepy teen stalker poaches girls for

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Speaker 2: months before mowing down the two little girl victims, who

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Speaker 2: are riding their e bike on a quiet neighborhood street.

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Speaker 1: Mowed them down dead.

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Speaker 2: I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. I want to

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Two teen girls from New Jersey were best friends who

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Speaker 3: shared countless school days and weekend adventures, found their latest

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Speaker 3: journey ending in unimaginable tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh, my stars.

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Speaker 2: How many times has my son or daughter gone for

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Speaker 2: a walk or gone to ride their bike?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'd be a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit worried, but it would be hard to imagine

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Speaker 2: that someone was waiting around the corner, revving the motor

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Speaker 2: of their jeep, waiting to see them go by so

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Speaker 2: they could floor it and mow them down.

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Speaker 1: Not really even an accident.

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Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time making sense of what I

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Speaker 2: am learning about these two little girls.

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Speaker 1: Now dead, and for what a creepy teens stalker? They're dead?

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Speaker 1: How are the parents making any sense? Look at her?

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Speaker 1: Look at her cute little makeup and her cute little eyelashes.

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Speaker 1: How hard did she? How long did it take her

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Speaker 1: to do that, just trying to look cute, trying to look.

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Speaker 2: Like some magazine. Oh look at the other little girl. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I am telling you. These facts are

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Speaker 2: like nothing else I've seen. And just think of it

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Speaker 2: and their own little neighborhood. Mom and dad see them

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Speaker 2: go out the door and think, oh, they're going for

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Speaker 2: a bike ride. Good, listen to this here.

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Speaker 4: Mom just screamed, I heard it outside my window, and

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Speaker 4: she was just I she heard a loud scream and

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Speaker 4: I ran out my door and she's just crying.

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Speaker 3: Maria and Isabella are best friends, attached at the hip.

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Speaker 3: Maria grows up in Cranford, New Jersey. She loves makeup.

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Speaker 3: Isabella loves to sing and act, a choir and drama

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Speaker 3: club member at Cranford High, her church, and the community theater.

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Speaker 3: As usual, the girls head to Maria's house after school

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Speaker 3: Monday and go for a bike ride at Golden Hour.

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Speaker 2: Some of that that first sentance from our friends that

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Speaker 2: picks eleven the so called Golden Air straight out to

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Speaker 2: Melissa McCarty joining US investigative reporter, hosts of The Killer

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Speaker 2: Jean's podcast, and author of the Making of a Crime

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Speaker 2: reporter Melissa McCarty, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Now, I got to take this from A to Z.

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the story really stars months before when the

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Speaker 2: stalking occurred, and I would like to report that the

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Speaker 2: parents tried to handle it then and nothing was done,

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Speaker 2: and now their daughter is dead. Their daughter and a

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Speaker 2: little bestie are dead. Melissa, I don't want to start

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Speaker 2: with the three months before when the stalking allegedly started.

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Speaker 2: I want to start with the day of the murders.

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Speaker 2: And yes, I'm saying murders, Melissa, don't start with me

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Speaker 2: about a crash or an accident. Don't say accident. Don't

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Speaker 2: say it, Okay, do not When there's a vehicular homicide

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Speaker 2: and the person intends it, that is not an accident.

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Speaker 1: So let's just go with crash for right now.

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Speaker 2: Start at the beginning, when they walk out to go

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is definitely intentional. Now, so these two team

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Speaker 5: best friends, both seventeen years old. They're out riding these

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Speaker 5: electric bikes like any other day. Was in front of

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Speaker 5: the family, Maria's family block. This is really important to mention.

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Speaker 5: It was a quiet residential street. They felt safe the

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Speaker 5: speed was twenty five miles per hour. They were riding

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Speaker 5: at seventy miles per hour. Definitely intention stuff from there.

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Speaker 2: Who witnessed the seventy seven zero MP and this tree

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Speaker 2: lined quiet neighborhood, guys, this is on Burnside Avenue, Cranford,

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Speaker 2: New Jersey, just outside Maria's grandma's home. Some of her

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Speaker 2: family actually witnessed the crash, not realizing Maria was involved.

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Speaker 2: Modown by a black jeep compass with tinted windows, and

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Speaker 2: Melissa mccartiy, I'll be right back with you. Straight out

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Speaker 2: to Lisa Herrick, board certified attorney specializing in juvenile crimes,

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Speaker 2: which is a whole another animal.

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Speaker 1: I hated JUV.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in our office had to do a long stint

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Speaker 2: in indictments and in a long stant in JUV, GV jail,

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Speaker 2: the judge just sit around the circular table so nobody would.

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Speaker 1: Be at the head and cause any hurt feelings, sit.

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Speaker 2: Around a circular table and say to the defendant it

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Speaker 2: could be somebody charged with murder or ray Perchamolins station

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Speaker 2: or side of me on a child adope dealer, not

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Speaker 2: a dope addict adope dealer. You know how the drug

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Speaker 2: lords you love to use juveniles because when they get caught,

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Speaker 2: they can only get you know, eighteen months. When the dealer,

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Speaker 2: the real dealer or the drug lord gets.

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Speaker 1: Caught, they get life.

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Speaker 2: So they hand the drugs to the juvenile so they'll

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Speaker 2: get a lighter cent. So the judge will be sitting

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Speaker 2: on the table and look at the defendant, go, how

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Speaker 2: are you feeling this morning?

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Speaker 1: My teeth?

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Speaker 2: I just want to gnaw through the file because in

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Speaker 2: my mind I'm thinking about what happened to the crime victim. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: my point to you, Lisa Harritt, you're a veteran trial lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Seventy miles an hour, seven zero.

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Speaker 1: That's no accident, absolutely, Nancy.

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Speaker 6: And so what you're talking about is that even the

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Speaker 6: most serious offenses, when it involves a juvenile suspect or

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Speaker 6: a juvenile respondent, defendant, whatever the jurisdiction word for that

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Speaker 6: person is, even the most serious offenses do start in

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Speaker 6: the juvenile court. The court is designed to be able

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Speaker 6: to handle any.

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Speaker 1: Type of offense.

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Speaker 6: There are some exceptional circumstances sometimes where the court may

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Speaker 6: transfer that case to an adult court, depending on exactly

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Speaker 6: what it is that happens in whether or not the

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Speaker 7: The appropriate course of action.

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Speaker 2: We need, say certain circumstances. In certain circumstances, a juvenile

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Speaker 2: case will be transferred or bound over to an adult

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Speaker 2: court felony superior court, and they are typically across the country.

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Speaker 2: Some variation the seven deadlies, including when the gmnile is

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Speaker 2: charged with murder, rape, aggravated assaults such as a shooting

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Speaker 2: the other one be, maybe aggravated rape or aggravated child sodomy.

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Speaker 2: All cases that deserve to be tried in adult court

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Speaker 2: bowed over from juvenile to adult court.

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Speaker 1: But of course it's not automatic.

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Speaker 2: There is a hearing, a bind over hearing to determine

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Speaker 2: will they really get an adult sentence?

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Speaker 1: But I don't see any way out of that in

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Speaker 2: If it had really been an accident, why would he

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Speaker 2: be flooring it seventy mph in a neighborhood. I could

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Speaker 2: just see it right now, right outside Grandma's house. Melissa McCarty,

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Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt, but I just wanted to clarify that

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Speaker 2: seventy mph is no accident.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: What happened then, right, So the impact was so intense, Nancy,

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Speaker 5: that one of the girls electric bikes wedged itself into

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Speaker 5: his suv, the driver's suv, and stuck there while he

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Speaker 5: tried to flee the scene. And this is the most

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Speaker 5: traumatic and chill part. Her family witnessed it. Maria had

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Speaker 5: a twin brother who also witnessed this, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 5: They rushed out to help and found it was their

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Speaker 1: Melissa McCarty, You're absolutely right. Listen.

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Speaker 8: At five point thirty Monday, Maria and Isabella ride their

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Speaker 8: bikes in front of Maria's home with a speed limit

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Speaker 8: of just twenty five. The girls feel comfortable riding in

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Speaker 8: the street with no warning. A black Jeep Compass barrels

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Speaker 8: down Burnside Avenue at nearly three times the speed limit

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Speaker 8: never breaks, running Maria and Isabella down, then speeding off.

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Speaker 8: Witnesses called nine to one one and rushed to the girls.

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Speaker 8: Maria's family inconsolable. One of the girls is declared dead

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Speaker 8: on the scene. While the other passes away. Minutes later

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Speaker 8: at a hospital, her.

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Speaker 4: Brother saw her get hit and they like, they said

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Speaker 4: it was on purpose, and they just they were just

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Speaker 1: Where fans at picks eleven.

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Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace to John Pizarro joining US.

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Speaker 2: Former New Jersey This jurisdiction State Police investigator twenty five

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Speaker 2: years in LA multiple departments, including homicide, organized crime, Not

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Speaker 2: Easy in Jersey, Commander of Internet Crimes against Children Task

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Speaker 2: Force for the New Jersey State Police, currently CEO of

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Speaker 2: Raven Eliminating Child Exploitation and Trafficking.

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Speaker 1: John, thank you for being with us. I want to

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Speaker 2: You about the fact that the e bike was hit

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Speaker 2: with such force that it wedged into the front grille

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Speaker 2: of the jeep. Tell me what you're seeing the jeep

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Speaker 2: right now there? It is that How would I like

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Speaker 2: to see that bearing down on you at seventy mph.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I've seen a lot of different accidents and fatalities, Nancy,

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Speaker 9: but the premeditation there is what really drives me. I mean,

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Speaker 9: the anger to create that kind of damage at that

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Speaker 9: speed is utterly insane.

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Speaker 2: You know, it would have to be an immense, immense

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Speaker 1: Just think about it.

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Speaker 2: To doctor Preyer, Benergy joining US Board certified forensic pathologist

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Speaker 2: and atomic pathologist and anchor Forensic Pathology, Doctor Preyer, thank

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Speaker 2: you for being with us. My point, the reason I'm

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Speaker 2: it basically he mailed it to the front grille. What

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Speaker 2: do you think that by impact the collision impact did

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Speaker 2: to the two little girls. One was thrown yards and

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Speaker 2: of people might think, is when she hits that that

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Speaker 2: is what kills her. Of course, she could hit her

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Speaker 2: hand on the curve, which would kill her, but it's

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Speaker 2: the impact that's what killed her.

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Speaker 10: This hits very close to home as the mother of

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Speaker 10: a young girl who's out in the neighborhood. The impact

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Speaker 10: is a huge transfer of force energy and that's going

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Speaker 10: to basically crush them.

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Speaker 1: It is I'm hoping instantaneous.

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Speaker 10: Death with massive trauma such as head trauma or chest trauma.

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Speaker 10: I'm hoping that makes them suffer less. As a consolation

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Speaker 10: to the family. But this is beyond comprehension.

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Speaker 11: Put her up.

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Speaker 2: It was that supposed to make us feel better, doctor Preya,

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Speaker 2: that she died instantly. Now, well, I have to hand

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Speaker 2: it to you. It actually does make me feel a

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Speaker 2: little bit better because to this day, I'm talking years later,

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Speaker 2: I will wake up at night. It will hit me

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the day like a sack of bricks.

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Speaker 2: Did my fiance know what had happened to him when

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Speaker 2: he was shot five times?

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Speaker 1: What did he feel? Did he know he was dying?

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Speaker 1: What were his thoughts? Did he try to speak? I

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Speaker 2: So the fact that they died may have died instantly,

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Speaker 2: it was very cold comfort, But comfort it is. But

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Speaker 2: isn't it true, Melissa McCarty that one of the girls

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Speaker 2: made it to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: And then died. So one of them did not die instantly, right,

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Speaker 5: We don't know which one at this point, but they

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Speaker 5: were airlifted to the hospital in efforts to try and

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Speaker 2: You know, to doctor Janey Lacy, joining US, licensed psychotherapist,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Janey. You know, sometimes I post pictures of my twins. Recently,

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Speaker 1: One rejected him. That's what this is all about.

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Speaker 2: According to police, that one of the girls didn't want

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Speaker 7: This case just represents a catastrophic system failure, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: So this is just a tragedy. It's a preventable murder,

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Speaker 7: Be there when it's reached for So Maria reached and

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Speaker 3: Police find the black twenty twenty one Jeep Compass just

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Speaker 12: Families release a statement claiming their daughter's deaths were not

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Speaker 12: Cranford High who wants pursued Maria romantically, has been harassing, stalking,

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Speaker 1: What in the hey, I got to tell you something?

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Speaker 13: You know?

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Speaker 2: Lisa Herrick joining us saw a veteran try a lawyer

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Speaker 2: partner at Varghee Somerset, Lisa, have you ever had to

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Speaker 6: Not one like this, Yeah, not one like this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you something you don't want to

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Speaker 2: divorce related crime, those people are they will shoot the prosecutor,

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Speaker 2: no question, or the divorce lawyer. The divorce lawyer because

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Speaker 2: the emotions are so high. And I've had stalkers come

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Speaker 1: It was palpable. It's like hanging in the air.

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Speaker 2: Like a Harry Potter horcrux. You can just feel feel it.

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Speaker 2: And in this case, did you hear this, Melissa McCartney,

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Speaker 2: did they just say? Friends and family stated a classmate

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Speaker 1: Three months has been going.

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Speaker 5: On at least stalking, not only physically parking outside of

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Speaker 2: Well online at school, parking in her neighborhood staring at

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Speaker 8: A friend of Maria's shows the media text he received

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Speaker 8: create and distribute AI generated nude photos of Maria. He

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Speaker 8: The conversation ended with the teen writing keep running your

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Speaker 13: Up front of her house's line online and schollowing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 13: The school was notified, The police were notified, like for three.

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Speaker 1: Months now, and nothing happened. No, he was never stopped. No.

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Speaker 2: Dave Matt with US Crime Stories investigative report. The school

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Speaker 14: Nancy. I think the school did take action.

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Speaker 11: We're dealing with a because of.

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Speaker 14: The age of everybody involved, you know, they're pretty cagy

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Speaker 2: Dave, I'm so glad you told me that. I'm so

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Speaker 2: You know what that means, Dave, Matt the family, his

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Speaker 1: Did he get back in Dave mac.

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Speaker 14: Well, okay, the charges that were coming about apparently were

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Speaker 2: Oh for the little suspension. Okay, you're absolutely right. Let's

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Speaker 11: I think, may I think we're going to center a PISA. Sure, so.

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Speaker 13: You'll know I have a vengeancey against the stall Ford

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Speaker 11: Fula or my dad wants to call you fluva. Don't

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Speaker 13: You should not have accused me of sending form and

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Speaker 2: Report that from at Vinny about one point eighteen on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: By the way, we're all innocent.

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Speaker 2: We have the presumption of innocence unless and until the

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Speaker 2: I just heard, Melissa McCarney. He says, I think Marie

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to send her a pizza.

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Speaker 2: So y'all know quote, I have a vengeance against this

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Speaker 10: You do?

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Speaker 5: And it just as a sample of how vindictive and

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Speaker 5: He was live streaming this to his fans on some

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't end there, Melissa McCarty, listen.

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Speaker 15: Can I get two large pepperoni pieces? That's it, no dregs,

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Speaker 15: He'll be cast.

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Speaker 14: In the door.

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Speaker 16: Okay, thank you very much. Hey, then I have the

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Speaker 1: Do you hear them laughing?

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Speaker 2: about I think Marie is hungry and ordering a pizza

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Speaker 2: that she would have to pay for when it got

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Speaker 2: there my daughter or said, well, my daughter would not

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Speaker 2: be able to find thirty dollars to save her nick

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Speaker 2: if she had to on a delivery that would not happen,

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Speaker 2: and then she'd be all upset, like, what am I

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Speaker 2: going to do?

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Speaker 1: I should text me and call me mom.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy that wants thirty dollars. What am I

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Speaker 2: supposed to do? I don't have thirty dollars? So that's

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Speaker 2: what he's laughing about. Oh and there's more. Listen, Should

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Speaker 2: I do it? Here's the thing though?

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Speaker 13: I did that the last time, but the mother saw

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Speaker 13: me pull up in the car and I got tracked,

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Speaker 13: and the police, you know, did what they did.

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Speaker 11: Should I do?

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Speaker 2: I don't think I should do it again? From at

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Speaker 2: venniebat One eighteen YouTube. Did you hear that? Because he

459
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Speaker 2: is cackling and laughing John Pizarro, former New Jersey State

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Speaker 2: Police this jurisdiction. He's laughing about having a VPN virtual

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Speaker 2: private network where he can't be traced, according to him,

462
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Speaker 2: and ordering the pizza and stalking her own line through

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Speaker 2: a VPN. The little friend says, you should go to

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Speaker 2: the house and see it pull up the pizza. That

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Speaker 2: Laura says, should I? Here's the thing though, I did

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Speaker 2: that last time, but the mother saw me and I

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Speaker 2: got trot and the police, you know, did what they did.

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Speaker 1: So he is.

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Speaker 2: Overtly trying to avoid detection. This guy, this guy knows

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Speaker 2: what he's doing.

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Speaker 17: John, he should be tried as an adult. I mean,

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Speaker 17: obviously he knows. Look, there's not a lot of people

473
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Speaker 17: that know a lot about VPNs, but he's doing everything

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Speaker 17: he can do to conceal his identity while terrorizing these girls. Ultimately,

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Speaker 17: that's what he's doing.

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Speaker 11: Should I do it?

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Speaker 13: Here's the thing though, I did that the last time,

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Speaker 13: but the mother saw me pull up in the car

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Speaker 13: and I got tracked and the police, you know, did

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Speaker 13: what they did.

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Speaker 11: Should I do I don't think I should do it.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 3: Maria had been haunted by a boy from a neighboring

484
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Speaker 3: town who relentlessly stalked her and made unwanted advances for months.

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Speaker 3: His obsessive behavior forced Maria to file a restraining order

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Speaker 3: against him.

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Speaker 2: How does this guy have thirty nine excuse me now?

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Speaker 2: Forty thousand followers on TikTok listen.

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Speaker 3: Just hours after allegedly mowing down Maria and Isabella, battle

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Speaker 3: Loo goes live on YouTube for a round of video

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Speaker 3: games with a friend. Battle Loo has nearly forty thousand

492
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Speaker 3: followers on TikTok and several hundred tune into his gaming streams.

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Speaker 3: Over the last six months, battle Loo frequently discussed a

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Speaker 3: situation at school with Maria. In his stream, battle Loo

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Speaker 3: is inundated with messages condemning his actions and taunts his

496
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Speaker 3: audience that every comment just makes him more money. Battle

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Speaker 3: Loo eventually turns commenting off and addresses the.

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Speaker 1: Crash doctor Jane Lacy, you're the psychotherapist. I'm just a

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Speaker 1: trial lawyer. Could you explain what is an in sell?

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Speaker 2: Involuntary celibate that's usually for grown men, but this forty

501
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Speaker 2: thousand followers watching him play play.

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Speaker 1: Live stream video games.

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Speaker 2: They watch him play as he trashes the victim and

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Speaker 2: talks about what he's going to de fort revenge because

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Speaker 2: she rejected him.

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Speaker 1: What is an in sell? What is a baby in sell?

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Speaker 7: Well, when I'm looking at what we just heard, that

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Speaker 7: they have these ability to get these audiences, especially when

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Speaker 7: they become skilled at certain video games. So with the generations,

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Speaker 7: this is a common trend. I would say that a

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Speaker 7: lot of the gamers can make money off of people

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Speaker 7: watching them taking tips from them. But there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of commentary that particularly happens when when they're gaming, and

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Speaker 7: in these commentary we're also seeing that we're also getting

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Speaker 7: some evidence because you know, when I think about this

516
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Speaker 7: nancy that stalkers, they often operate with just this dangerous

517
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Speaker 7: solution as he was, you know, he's talking about the

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Speaker 7: situation at school to his followers. But they also believe

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Speaker 7: they have a right to their victims attention, hence sending

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Speaker 7: the pizza and the attention of time and their affection,

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Speaker 7: and when that's denied and they don't accept that, they

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Speaker 7: escalate to when we're looking at all these red flags

523
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Speaker 7: that we just heard, the surveillance, the digital harassment, of

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Speaker 7: the physical proximity threat, the mom seeing him, and the

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Speaker 7: persistence despite the rejection the restraining order which didn't didn't

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Speaker 7: stop him. But you know, the comment that would make

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Speaker 7: their nancy is the most dangerous time for stalking victim

528
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Speaker 7: is when they set a boundary like a restraining order.

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Speaker 2: And doctor Jenny, I've got a question. Doesn't anybody have Bark?

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Speaker 2: And I am not I'm not an endorser. I'm saying

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Speaker 2: this because I have BARK. I don't understan and my

532
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Speaker 2: parents don't have Bark. It's an app and it pops

533
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Speaker 2: up whenever you one of your children, it's on their phone.

534
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Speaker 2: When there is violence, when violence pops up, self harm,

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Speaker 2: sexual deviancy, and okay, one time it popped up self

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Speaker 2: harm on my son.

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Speaker 1: I'm like what.

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Speaker 2: And it shows you the what they consider to be

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Speaker 2: self harm. It was John David plays on varsity soccer

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Speaker 2: and he had he dived through the net to stop

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Speaker 2: a goal and he stopped it, but he got a

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Speaker 2: big bruise on his arm. He's so proud, look what

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Speaker 2: I did. And he posted it to somebody. You know,

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Speaker 2: I saved the goal and that's what they picked. That's

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Speaker 2: how sensitive bark like a dog, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: And then the other day I never have seen this

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Speaker 2: pop up. It says sexual something. I'm like it finally happened.

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Speaker 2: He found how about sex? And look guess what it was?

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Speaker 2: The Nancy Gray show on a ddy case. So okay,

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Speaker 2: that's the kind like, okay, I guess he's got to

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Speaker 2: unfollow his mother.

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Speaker 1: But that said, I wonder where were the parents?

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Speaker 2: Did they not understand what was going on? They didn't,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Melissa McCartney, how could the parents? I know

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Speaker 2: he was suspended and yet he still had his jeep

556
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Speaker 2: that he was using to stalk her and still doing this,

557
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Speaker 2: laughing about it, ordering pizzas.

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Speaker 1: And so forth online to her home that she would

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Speaker 1: have to pay for. But where were they in this mix?

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Speaker 11: So this is interesting.

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Speaker 5: He talks about that on one of his live streams

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Speaker 5: on YouTube. He talks about what happened to him at

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Speaker 5: school with the police report and how it's affecting him

564
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Speaker 5: at home and causing him mental anguish. He addresses that,

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Speaker 5: and what I think is very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Did you just say he's having meant to anguish?

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Speaker 5: He talks about how it's affecting his mental state, exactly right,

568
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Speaker 5: But he talks about this and that he's having trouble

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Speaker 5: at home because of all of this.

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Speaker 1: So he's you.

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Speaker 5: Know, putting the evidence out there, and he's also admitting

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Speaker 5: to this harassment and these things that are getting him

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Speaker 5: in trouble on the live stream.

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Speaker 2: Well, he should have trouble at home, and actually at

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Speaker 2: least that means his parents were trying to do something.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 13: In a neighboring town, Unfortunately, two girls were killed in

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Speaker 13: a hit and run crash. Nah, there has been a

579
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Speaker 13: lot of misinformation going on over the internet, but I

580
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Speaker 13: will say this, I wish my sincereus condolences to those

581
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Speaker 13: two girls.

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Speaker 11: Lost in that tragic accident.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the goal of that from at Vinnie bat One

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Speaker 2: eighteen on YouTube, that is Vincent Battloro talking about the

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Speaker 2: misinformation on the internet about as I call them, the

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Speaker 2: two murders and giving sincere's condolence is like spit that

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Speaker 2: out of my mouth. It tastes like poison. And there's more.

588
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Speaker 2: The goal of going on and saying that.

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Speaker 13: Listen, it is an absolute unfortunate situation and there's more

590
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Speaker 13: to the story that you're not getting. But when the

591
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Speaker 13: time comes, I will explain it in greater detail. I'm

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Speaker 13: not authorized to talk about the old thing. I'm not

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Speaker 13: going to give you any more information.

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Speaker 1: At Vinnie baut One eighteen YouTube making thrusts.

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Speaker 11: That's my family will not be tolerated.

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Speaker 13: My cousin has received hateful messages over social media about

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Speaker 13: this whole spiel, and he's had to unfollow me on

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Speaker 13: everything because of this whole drama.

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Speaker 11: Why are you guys getting him involved? It's one thing. Okay,

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Speaker 11: if you hate me, you hate me.

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Speaker 13: If you don't, you don't, you're opening up Pandora's Box,

602
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Speaker 13: getting family involved, and that just does not sit right

603
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Speaker 13: with me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, that's from venning Back one eighteen YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Is he actually threatening people?

606
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Speaker 2: Is he saying, you talk about my family and you're

607
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 2: opening Pandora's Box and that just does not sit right

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Speaker 2: with me?

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Speaker 13: What?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure Lisa Harritt is just withering right now

611
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Speaker 2: at the thought of having a client that takes to

612
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Speaker 2: the Internet. But there's more, Lisa, buckle your seat belt, listen,

613
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Speaker 2: and I want to.

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Speaker 13: Address something else, okay, because this is a very serious

615
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 13: incident that happens, and I really don't even know if

616
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 13: I should be streaming this right now. But I have

617
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Speaker 13: built a great following on ted Talk with thirty nine

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Speaker 13: thousand followers that I have grown since twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 13: I want to thank each.

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Speaker 11: And every single one of you. I love you all

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Speaker 11: to absolute death.

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Speaker 1: That's from at Vinnybatt one eighteen YouTube.

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Speaker 2: He is worried. Lisa Harriet, You're the veteran trial lawyer.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy right now, He's worried about his followers

625
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Speaker 2: on YouTube, his forty thousand followers.

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Speaker 1: He's threatening people that have spoken out against him. And

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Speaker 1: his family, and.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to add his dad and uncle are in

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Speaker 2: law enforcement. That's his response. He's lashing out and worried

630
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Speaker 2: about his YouTube followers, while the girls' families are imagining

631
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Speaker 2: their daughters getting inbalmed.

632
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Speaker 1: You know what getting in balm means.

633
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: They take all the fluids out of your body, all

634
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Speaker 2: the organs out of their body, and they shoot you

635
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Speaker 2: full of chemicals, chemicals, and then they paint your face

636
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Speaker 2: to make you look natural, not dead, and put you

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Speaker 2: in a box before you go under the ground forever.

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Speaker 2: And he is worried about his followers and making threats

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Speaker 2: online technical legal term.

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Speaker 1: You can go straight to H double L on a broomstick.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean writing it.

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Speaker 10: I mean.

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Speaker 1: You go ahead. I want to hear your response. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: As a defense attorney, you never want a client to

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Speaker 6: to the internet and share how they feel about an

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Speaker 6: incident they're accused of.

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Speaker 1: This is not a good look.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be a lot to overcome for his

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Speaker 6: attorneys when he does get defense attorneys. They certainly, as

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Speaker 6: he predicted, they would have advised him not to do that.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.

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Speaker 13: I took a hiatus from streaming and this has to

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Speaker 13: do with my personal life, and this involves school. I

654
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Speaker 13: got a bunch of allegations being handed to me of

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Speaker 13: crazy stuff I will deny for fifty years to the

656
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Speaker 13: end of my life. Ridiculous allegations that this girl is

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Speaker 13: making against me and over because I got into her

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Speaker 13: relationship business. And now the school and now I'm going.

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Speaker 11: To tell you all this.

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Speaker 13: Cops got involved, and the school got involved in this,

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Speaker 13: and somehow they're.

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Speaker 11: Believing this crap.

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Speaker 13: So they suspended me basically indefinitely until they figured it,

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Speaker 13: which makes again makes no sense because they should have

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Speaker 13: waited until they were if they're really believing this is

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Speaker 13: true criminal charges, by which there haven't been because this

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Speaker 13: is all bogus.

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Speaker 11: So that's happened. I'm waiting to see.

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Speaker 13: You know, when I get this appointment for my They

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Speaker 13: want to test me for a SAVORY assessment and sexual

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Speaker 13: which I don't even understand it.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about a SAVORY test, a structured assessment of

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Speaker 2: violence risk in youth. Structured assessment of violent risk in youth.

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Speaker 2: SAVORY is the acronym. Well, if you don't understand it,

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Speaker 2: what it is is an assessment of your degree, your

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Speaker 2: level of violence and if you have sexual deviancy, because

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Speaker 2: you won't leave this girl alone, according to her family,

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Speaker 2: and now she's dead.

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Speaker 1: Now she's dead. Listen.

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Speaker 13: We've tried to appeal the decision, and apparently that decision

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Speaker 13: can't be which may which doesn't make sense because oh,

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Speaker 13: we can appeal the school expulsion, but we can't appeal

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Speaker 13: a savory assessment that I don't find to be making

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Speaker 13: any sense.

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Speaker 11: Oh, we hold the car. No, you don't.

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Speaker 13: You can authorize a decision making on whether I do

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Speaker 13: this year or not, so.

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Speaker 11: They will not.

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Speaker 13: Although my expulsion has been rescinded, I'm still not basically

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Speaker 13: welcome back until I do it. That is why I

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Speaker 13: haven't been streaming. It's taken a deep effect on my

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Speaker 13: mental health. But because of the support of my mom

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Speaker 13: and dad, who are both defending these bogus allegations, which

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Speaker 13: I think is sick twisted out at our landish, they're

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Speaker 13: defending me.

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Speaker 11: They wanted to search my phone. The school wanted to

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Speaker 11: search my.

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Speaker 13: Phone, but my dad told him that my dad refused

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Speaker 13: get a warrant and then we could talk from there.

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Speaker 2: At vinnybat One eighteen YouTube, the Union County prosecutors keep

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Speaker 2: the driver's identity.

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Speaker 3: Private traffic summons records reveal his name, Vincent P. Bataloro,

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Speaker 3: his father, an officer with Chatham Peede, and his uncle,

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Speaker 3: chief of Westfield PD. The team was also under investigation

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Speaker 3: for harassment and stalking his classmate Maria and Ciotis.

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Speaker 12: Battlauo's uncle, Christopher Battaluo, chief of police in neighboring Westfield,

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Speaker 12: confirming with the suspect is related but not a member

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Speaker 12: of his immediate family. Chief battle Laua writes that he

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Speaker 12: in no way condone, defend, or excuse his nephew's actions.

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Speaker 12: Battlauo says he was required to remain silent but unequivocally

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Speaker 12: condemns the teen's actions and demands. He faced consequences determined

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Speaker 12: by a court of law. Chief Battlelauo expresses his condolences

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Speaker 12: to Maria and Isabella's families, saying his family is grieving

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Speaker 12: alongside their neighbors, and that.

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Speaker 2: Is why the parents said, now you can't look at

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Speaker 2: his phone without a search warrant because they know the system,

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Speaker 2: the dad and the uncle, heavy law enforcement. Where does

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Speaker 2: it stand right now? Straight out to Melissa McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: Right now, he is facing two counts of first degree murder.

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Speaker 5: Right now, it could be he's charged as a minor,

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Speaker 5: but that could change. We have to wait and see

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Speaker 5: what the DA decides.

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Speaker 2: So right now he's still in juvecourt looking at a

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Speaker 2: mix of about five years behind bars.

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Speaker 1: That's where it stands.

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Speaker 2: This as the girls' family, Maria and Isabella's family en

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Speaker 2: dear their funerals, We wait as justice unfolds. If you

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Speaker 2: know or think you know anything about this case, whether

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Speaker 2: you think it's inconsequential or not, please dial Cranford PD.

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Speaker 2: Nine zero eight seven zero nine seventy two hundred repeat

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Speaker 2: nine zero eight seven zero nine seventy two hundred.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing up. Good night friend,