1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Following here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Are you ready for 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us and bar Garcia 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of 8 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: the Break presented by Miller Lite, the only beer of 9 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Derek is not here with us today 10 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: in today's show, but we got Brian and Nick. How 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: are you guys? Doing great? Just got done with the 12 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: draft show. Mock draft should be a lot of fun. 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: I know it's probably gon to be hanging out in 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: the magazine here sing magazine coming out when those comer. Oh, 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: it comes out probably in about two weeks, two to 16 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: three weeks, probably right at the start of April, so 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: getting there could sell the cover. And it looks really good, 18 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: good looking good. Just got to get the right side 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: a month, well not inside a month, but close to 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: a month for this draft coming up too. Yeah, the 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: thing happens pretty fast around the corner, around the corner, well, today, 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna just kind of recap everything that has happened 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: since last week in free agency. To start off the show, 24 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: recent news was Tony Polar just signed his franchise tag. 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: There he ghost team, so he's guaranteed ten million dollars 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: no matter what happens, he gets ten million dollars from 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Scoutboys. Yeah. It's just kind of funny how sometimes 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: these players have not signed it right away. They view 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: the franchise tag as a as a bad thing. In 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: the running back situation. With Tony Pollard this year, obviously, 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: he does not feel it that way. I think this 32 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: is a good thing for the injury. I mean, I 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: don't think you would sign it. I would sign any 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: ten million dollars deals. It's guaranteed. Yeah, like we're talking about, 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: you know. It's what we're looking at though in free 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: agency is a lot of the running backs these teams 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: are going to in two weeks time, the Pro days 38 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: are going to stop, and teams are going to start 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: getting into their draft rooms and stuff and putting their 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: boards together. And what's going to happen is once they 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: do that, I think free agency really really slows down. 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: And you're also going to get these teams, says, they're 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: going to put up these running backs. There's going to 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: be about twelve to fifteen names, and they're going to say, 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: maybe we don't have to sign a guy, Maybe we 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: don't have to. That's why I was kind of thinking 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: something about Ezekiel Elliott, the quicker, that he could get 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: something signed up and get something firmed up to go 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: into the fall. I think would be better because once 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: these teams start to look at that board and build it, 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: they're going to go, we don't have a need for 52 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: a four million dollar running back. You know, maybe we 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: don't have a need for two million dollar running back. 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, That's that's the danger that you run into 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: when you start to get laid into free agency. Well, 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: let's get into these guys and by the end of 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the show, I want I want each one of you 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: to tell me how you would rate free agency this 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: year for the Cowboys so far in the job that 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: they've done this year. Since we're talking about running back, 61 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: let's jump into Ronald Jones that the Cowboys signed him. 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: You know, it was funny though, you know how how 63 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: much has happened in the week. They'll let you know 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: and I guess we did go one day later than 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: normal for the week, but the last show we had, 66 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Zekiel Elliott was still on the team. You know. So 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: that's just funny how we're expecting it too. We're expecting 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: it to happen, but it's just like that seems so 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: long ago. Now we've moved so much. Okay, Ronald Jones 70 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: band aid to me insurance policy type guy going into 71 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the draft. You don't have to reach for a running 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: back if you don't want to, because you feel like 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: you have the running backs that can that can you know, 74 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: get through a game. But I don't think Ronald Jones 75 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: is going to stop you from taking the running back 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: that you want if he's there. Yeah. I think with 77 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones is when he came out of college out 78 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: of USC, it was very similar style with what we 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: see with Zeke. A very physical runner. You know, hit 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the hole, get through the whole, you know, run through 81 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: tacklers and stuff. You know, not a whole lot of 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: wiggle to his game, but he was a guy that 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: always when you handed him to football, he was going forward. 84 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: He was going to make positive yards. You know, band 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: aid bridge whatever you want to it never you know, 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are really big in protecting themselves and that's 87 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: something that Will has always done. Here is to like 88 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: next point, you don't have to take a guy because 89 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: we got a guy, or does it prohibit you from 90 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: taking a guy? You know, it's not one of those things. Now, 91 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what the situation when we did 92 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: our mock draft on the Draft show today, when you 93 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: start to talk about the trades they made for the 94 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: corner and then for the wide receiver, well maybe that 95 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: makes you think a little bit differently about those positions 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: because those are players that you absolutely are going to 97 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: count on to play. So maybe you don't take the 98 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver or maybe you don't take the cornerback. When 99 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: you're looking at that, you know, maybe it takes instead 100 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: of having to be a priority, you've now kind of 101 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: lowered it to like, okay, we could do it a 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: little bit later in the draft. So I don't think 103 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: the Ronald Jones signing keeps him from now from drafting 104 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: a running back here. And I'd say this about Ronald Jones. 105 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean, when when you have the ball as an 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, you have the ball at your own two 107 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: to three yard line, your goal is to get the 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: ball to the five. You're trying to get breathing room. 109 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: You give the ball to a guy and he scores 110 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: a touchdown, that's a different type of back. And if 111 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: you have a ninety eight yard touchdown in his repertoire, 112 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: that's just a different type of player. I mean, like, 113 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: you have a guy that can be a power back, 114 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: like Brian says, but also has the speed to take 115 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: it to the house. I'm not saying he's gonna do 116 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: that all the time, but but anybody that can go 117 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: ninety eight yards, I think it's got something special to him. 118 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: So I think that's intriguing too. Well, we don't know 119 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the draft just yet. We 120 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: can talk about it and expect it. But looking at 121 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: it right now, looking at what you currently have Tony 122 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Poler and then this guy, how do you see the 123 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: combination of these two working together as opposed to what 124 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: you had before where we knew it was working in 125 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: a balance with Yeah, I think I think the biggest 126 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: question is because we had an idea when Kelln Moore 127 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: was calling plays, but it took him four years to 128 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: figure out how to use Tony Pollard. Yeah, so maybe 129 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: now with Mike McCarthy, Mike's come out and said, hey, 130 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm more interested in trying to run the football. I 131 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: think he's just kind of just telling you that. I 132 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: think Mike's still going to throw the football here. I 133 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: don't worry about him saying, you know, turning into a 134 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: three yards in cloud of dust offense. I feel like 135 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: he's going to He's going to incorporate. Yes, you the 136 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: ability with Jones, He's Nick's right though. The power of 137 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: the speed, you know that combination. You have the speed, 138 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: the quickness with Pollard, you know, coming off an injury, 139 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: you really don't know, you know. That mean, we've seen 140 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: what happens with guys coming off injuries around here. You know. 141 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: We saw it with a wide receiver, We've seen it 142 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: with a quarterback, We've seen it with others. I mean 143 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: that's the big unknown right now for the Cowboys is 144 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: how are Tony Pollard. You trust that Britt Brown and 145 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: Tony and those guys are gonna work extremely hard and 146 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: get ready to play. But you just really really don't know. 147 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: But the combination is you do have speed, you do 148 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: have quickness, and you do have power and they're draft 149 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: and you know you draft a running back because you 150 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at twenty twenty four. Yeah, what does that 151 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: look like? Because Paula is not guaranteed to be here, 152 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: then I wouldn't think Ronald Jones would be as well. 153 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Malik Davis will see how but but you're drafting a 154 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: running back. For I view if they drafted back, I'll 155 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: view it a lot like ten years ago or so 156 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: with DeMarco Murray. They had Felix Jones here. I think 157 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: they had to start chores. They had established guys here. 158 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: They drafted a guy. You don't have to be great 159 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: right away, but we expect you'd be pretty good here 160 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: before too long. And before we move position. You mentioned 161 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Rico Dowal. That's another guy that the guy that the 162 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys signed yesterday, he would disappeared last year because of 163 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: an injury, and then Malie Davis kind of took advantage 164 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: of that and did what he did. Right now, it 165 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: is expected for him just to be an ie, a 166 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: guy that's out in depth and like, yeah, let's compete 167 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: in Let's remember he was a restricted free agent. They 168 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: could have tendered him. They chose not to tender him, 169 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: which automatically makes you an unrestricted free agent. So you 170 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: know they didn't do that with Terrence deal and all that. 171 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: We get it. I mean he they wanted him back, 172 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: but at the right price, and I think they got 173 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: it all right. Let's move on to another guy that 174 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys acquire via a trade they drafted. They did 175 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: a trade with the Houston Texans gave up two draft 176 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: picks for wide receiver Brandon Cooks. He's a guy that, 177 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: again has he experienced. He's a guy that you get 178 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: ready and bringing here before you head into the draft 179 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: having a bigger need prior to head in there. What 180 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: are you seeing a guy like him as far as 181 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: what kind of experience he brings to the team and 182 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: how he would fit in. This is very patient of 183 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, a very patient thing that they did because 184 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: they were interested in Cooks last year during the trade 185 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: deadline and offered a third round pick for the opportunity 186 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: to draft him. Houston tried to hold him up for 187 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: a two. Dallas basically said, no, we're not interested in 188 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: doing that. So now you give the five and the six. 189 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: You know the fifth. I believe it's a compensatory pick. 190 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have done a great job of taking these 191 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: compensatory picks and now turning them into players instead of 192 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: using the draft players, They've turned them into legitimate players 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: that can help them this year. So I think it's 194 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: a brilliant move on their part. Like say, the patients 195 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: was there, they got Houston to eat part of the 196 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: contract Adam Pacifica the cap guy, and them negotiated an 197 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: extra a year and with a lower salary and stuff 198 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: like that. Great job on their part to do that. So, yeah, 199 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: you have a guy that wants to be here. I 200 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: think a couple of the moves that they made with 201 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: these trades have been really positive because you got no 202 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: new money, you got one money, You got money taken 203 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: away from a guy and who wants to be here. 204 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: And then the corner, you know, you know Gilmore, he 205 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: wants to be here, and no added extra money there. 206 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: So you know, that's a really nice job by them 207 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: of taking using the compensatories and then not having to 208 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: add any more new money to any of these deals. 209 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: These guys want to be here, they want to play, 210 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: they're excited about it, and they're both really good players. Yeah, 211 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: and they traded next year's pick one of the next 212 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: year's picks for Cooks. But you know, you gotta look 213 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: at it. They're definitely gonna get two compensatory takes back 214 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: with Schultz and mcgovernan. We'll see about Noah Brown. I'd 215 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: probably not, but we'll see. But but what I love 216 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: about Brandon Cooks is I'm not I'm not concerned about 217 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: the guy that gets a thousand yards from Tom Brady 218 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees. I like the guy that got a 219 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: thousand yards from Davis Mills. That to me shows that 220 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: he is scheme friendly. He can go into different situations. 221 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: I love his attitude. He's not worried about a guy 222 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: being traded disgruntled. He looks at it from a positive 223 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: standpoint on somebody wants me. Somebody wanted me bad enough 224 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: to wait before I got cut. He's he's you know, 225 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: he says Iron, Sharpern's Iron. He's him and Gilmore have 226 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: played together New England, good friends. Yeah, he loves going 227 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: up against treyvon Digs in practice every day. I think 228 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: it's a great move. Like Brian said, very patient. Could 229 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: have done in this last year. Probably needed him last year. 230 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: But that's okay. I mean, you got him now, different 231 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: type of receiver too. He's he was shorter than I 232 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: thought he would be. Yeah, I didn't consider him a short, 233 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: short receiver. He is. But if you pli his numbers, 234 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: if you're one of those folks that believe in metrics, 235 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: all the numbers that talk about routes and how they 236 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: run routes and stuff like that, he's very comfortable running 237 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: the routes that potentially Mike McCarthy could ask him to do. 238 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: The inside breaking routes, the slants, the flats, the things, 239 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: like the only thing that he can he can help. 240 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: It's not just throw him a screen and let him run. 241 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: This guy makes plays down the field, the vertical routes 242 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: they call a nine route. He's really comfortable doing that 243 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: because he's got the speed, he's got the ability to 244 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: track the ball. But now you see him as a 245 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: guy who would have a clear role. Absolutely, Yes, see, 246 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. We've got to figure out. We've 247 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: got to figure out what Brian Schottenheimer's offense really really is. Yeah, 248 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: that's what we got to figure out, because let's be honest, 249 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is going to call the plays, but Brian 250 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer is going to be a very big influence on 251 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: what they do. Brian Schottenheimer, it's going to be the 252 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: guy primarily, it's gonna be coaching, presenting the offense. Mike 253 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: McCarthy's going to have the playsheet and have that ability 254 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: to call the offense. So we really don't know. We 255 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: can go back and look at where Brian Schottenheimer has 256 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: been before, Jacksonville, Seattle, places like that and trying, but 257 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: until we get out here and start seeing him play games, 258 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, we really don't. You know, it is it? 259 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: You know, we ever likes to use the word on 260 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: West Coast and this that there's versions, there's different versions 261 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: of these offenses, and you know, we don't know. I mean, 262 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I think there's things that they want 263 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: to keep for DAK, but I don't know if they 264 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: completely want to keep everything. The big point of disconnect 265 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: seem to be the option routes, you know, and that's 266 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: something that Dak's like, no, no, keep those in. Mike's like, 267 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: I've never really worked with the option. Kellen Moore's like, well, yeah, 268 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: you have to have the option run. You know. That's 269 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of like what was 270 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: going on a little bit of disconnect there between the 271 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: two on what they wanted to do. So until we 272 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: physically see them start playing games, it's really kind of 273 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: an unknown. But Brian Schottenheimer, I think, is going to 274 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: have his thumb print on this offense. Do you feel 275 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Nick that this is after getting him and knowing that 276 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: you still have Jalen Toilbor that's still developing. He hasn't 277 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: done anything yet, but we're hoping that he can take 278 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: that next step this year. How do you see the 279 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver position heading into the track? Yeah, I mean 280 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: they also extended Gallup a little bit longer, so that 281 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: that means that his contracts probably he's not They could 282 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: have got out of it last year. I think if 283 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: they didn't extend it and they extended, he's gonna be 284 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: here CD. I would imagine they're gonna get on a 285 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: deal with him. So I think if they just have options, 286 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Cooks should be here for a 287 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: little bit. We'll see about Jayleen Tilbur. But but if 288 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: there's a receiver that they like, even as high as 289 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: the first round, I'd be surprised about the first round. 290 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: But even if there's somebody that they like, I think 291 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: I think that they've done enough where they're not married 292 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: to anything can still get it. But they could wait 293 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: till day three of the draft and get a receiver 294 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: if they wanted to. 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There we Go. 349 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: Brian just man I talked about this old line so 350 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: the guy. Let me know what you figured out. I 351 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: keep wanting to say, the guys, the Cowboys and the 352 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: Cowboys they sign Chuma at Dolga. How you say his 353 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: name m Right now, they're not necessarily listing him as 354 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: anything specific. He seems to have very good position flex. Yeah, 355 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: but what do you think of a guy like him? Well, 356 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: women in here, yeah, we can do clearly what you know. 357 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: This is where again I look with Will and Steven 358 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: are trying to do, and you have a veteran guy 359 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: here who you mentioned has some position flex. You'll get 360 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: into camp, you'll play some games. You might have depending 361 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: on you want to evaluate your quarterback, depending on if 362 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: you want to evaluate your running backs, depending on if 363 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: you want to evaluate your wide receivers. Veteran offensive linemen 364 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: that could play in preseason games, that could practice and 365 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: maybe be swing guys, or maybe they fit in, maybe 366 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: they make the team and help you with those backup roles. 367 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 1: The one thing that he will do is the when 368 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: you play preseason games, he'll be able to play in 369 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarters of games. You don't want 370 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: to put a bunch of guys out there. Nothing against 371 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: lacon Or I know that he's making a position switch. 372 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: But you know, you got guys out there that you 373 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: know are just fighting just to kind of hang on, 374 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: and you really can't evaluate your team that way. I 375 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: see this as a guy they're going to try and 376 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: see if he has enough to be a swing guy. 377 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: But the big picture thought of a guy like that 378 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: to me is when you get in these preseason games 379 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: and you want to evaluate other players. He's not going 380 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: to make huge mistakes. He's going to play in the game. 381 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: He's going to be steady. He's played games before, and 382 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: so you're able to evaluate your team not putting five 383 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: guys out there that make their quarterback running for your life, 384 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: or the running backs can't get evaluated or they can't 385 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: even get the ball out to the wide receivers. So 386 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: veteran guy like that, try and make the team through 387 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: preseason and then see if you could be a swing 388 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: guy come to be on the fifty three for the 389 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: regular season. Yeah. I mean, anytime you got a guy 390 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: that can play guard and tackle, I mean you take 391 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: him to the game. That's like, it's just like having 392 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: two backups there that you can you can bring to 393 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: the game. He did start at guard and against what 394 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: the Falcons his last season and got hurt. But you know, 395 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: so he's been mostly a tackle and he's a teammate 396 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: of Ronald Jones from college at usc UM, so you 397 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: know he's played at usc He was a tackle, but 398 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: mostly a tackle. But then now I think they're kind 399 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: of working tomc guard. You know, at six three three 400 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: oh eight. If you look at the tackles this team 401 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: has had with with you know, Tyler Smith, Terrence Steele, 402 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: I mean going all the way back to you know, 403 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Doug free flows Ll. I mean, they like their guys 404 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: to be able to rebound and play basketball down in 405 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: the you know, in the paint. At six three, three 406 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: oh eight, that looks like a guard to me. Yeah, 407 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: so I kind of think that's how they view them. 408 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: And one of those guys that are like, you know, 409 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: we'd like to draft a guard, and this guy's not 410 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: going to prevent us from drafting a guard. But if 411 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't, we don't get to it. We're okay, I 412 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: don't know who their left guard is if they had 413 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: to play tomorrow. Yeah, that's the thing, Tyler Smith. Yeah, 414 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: I think that's to me, if somebody could tell me 415 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with Tyrn Smith. And that's that's 416 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: kind of where I'm thinking that starting to hear the 417 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: whispers that maybe you're looking at Tyrn Smith is what 418 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: the role of Jason Peters was last year. Yeah, you know, 419 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: and they don't want to move Tyler Smith from left now. 420 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: It's going to be vastly different if they draft a 421 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: guard in the first round. The two names that people 422 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: have kind of tagged them to his kid, Torrents from Florida. 423 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: He's well over three hundred and thirty pounds. A Villa 424 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: from TCU is well at three hundred pounds, three hundred 425 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: and thirty pounds as well. It will be a different 426 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: guy if they if that twenty six they pick either 427 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: one of those guards, it will be a different looking 428 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: body than what they've usually had there at left at 429 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: at left, at left going out for it too, because 430 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've say it all the time. You get 431 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: into the red zone and they've they've relied on Zeke 432 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: to be the guy to kind of push the pile. 433 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Tony Poler is going to be moving 434 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: the pile himself. I mean, he can get to it 435 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: quicker than anybody else, but sometimes you just have to 436 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: be able to you know, move the pile. And I 437 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: think you know, they've had McGovern, they've had Beadist. If 438 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: you can get a guy like three to thirty power power, 439 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, strong blocker like that, I'm all four because 440 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: they really haven't had that since Ron Leary, I think 441 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: at that position. Well, let's move on to a guy 442 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: they signed yesterday, Trent Trent. Yeah, here's here's what Here's 443 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: what happened there at Snapper. I mean, I think they 444 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: wanted Jake McQuaid back, but but but at a price, 445 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: not not to you know, and mcquaids from the northeast 446 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: or from Ohio, I believe, and you know, wanted to 447 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: go up there to Detroit Um. Sometimes it's just kind 448 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: of a carousel type thing. At Deep Snapper, McQuaid was 449 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: here because Fossil liked him and with the Rams. So 450 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: what happened with Siege. Siege was with the Raiders for 451 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: five years, no bad snaps, no blocks, nothing, did everything 452 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do, played every game. The Raiders hired 453 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: a new coach I think I think his name is 454 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: McMahon from Inver, and Denver had a guy that was 455 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: a free as at forget his name, it's a long 456 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: name of Boken Camp or something like Boken Biber. I 457 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: don't know. He played from Denver. The guy wanted his 458 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: own guy. Yeah, so seeks out and now that much 459 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: like McQuaid and Bones exactly ten years together and stuff 460 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: like that. So this is a guy. He's not on 461 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: the street because he sucked. He's on the street because 462 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't the preference of the new coach. And you know, 463 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: the new coach comes in and doesn't see that happen. 464 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: See it happened all the time. So so this is 465 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: a guy that that's good. They like him and you know, 466 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. Yeah, the thing with the snappers, 467 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: but we saw last year though, you know, without McQuaid 468 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: there were a couple of games where there were some issues. 469 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: There was some issues with the snaps, you know, whether 470 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: it was I think it was in the Commander's game 471 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: that ended up being a block or a tip or 472 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: something like that. It was you know, yeah, Overton had 473 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: and then it had a low snap. I mean it 474 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: had a smother situation you know, uh, you know with 475 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: with the holder and trying to get the ball up 476 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: and it's no good and you're kind of wondering. Was 477 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: that the point when all of a sudden, you know, 478 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: your your your kicker started going south mentally because you know, 479 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: was there some uncertainty there. That's a position that and 480 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: I always say, listen, you'd never know who the snapper is. 481 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: And you don't want to ever know who the snapper is, 482 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: you know, you just don't. You don't. Well that was 483 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: a bad snap, Well who was the snapper? And then 484 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: now you start to and it's all about the operation. 485 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: It it starts with that snap. And if you don't 486 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: have a guy that's super reliable and they've had they've 487 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: had snappers here that they've played, you know, fifteen years, 488 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: they've done this job and you know, and had absolutely 489 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: no problems. But then when you start to have some 490 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: poor snaps and the operations get affected, and then you 491 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: start to blame the kicker and you're like, well, wait 492 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: a minute, watch the guy. You know, the balls on 493 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: the ground, you know, the holder has to like smother 494 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: it on the ground and then get it up, you know, 495 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: to try and get it in the air. So I 496 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: we'll see. This is the first time since I think 497 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: like twoy ten, so like thirteen is the first time 498 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: that they've had a deep snapper in his twenties. Yeah, 499 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: because you know, LP did it for so long and 500 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: you can this is the position that you can do it. Dale, Hell, 501 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: Astray did it forever before that, well before that. But 502 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: where that does come into play is you do snap 503 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: the ball and run down the field and and you 504 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: can you can make a play or you can make 505 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: a tackle and all that sea. You can get down 506 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: there and you know, be be athletic, be an athlete. 507 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: So you know, they you know, McQuaid was mcquaid's in 508 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: his thirties. Overton who they signed last year, also in 509 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: the thirties, so you know they're getting a young guy, 510 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: which also is important too. This guy does it, does 511 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: his job and does well, maybe he could be here 512 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: for a long time. You know. Yeah, they've had they've 513 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: had you know, like I said, Jeff Robinson or Jeff 514 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: Robinson back in the day. Yeah, to catches two touchdowns. Yeah, 515 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: that's right, but his his role was snap napper, snapper. 516 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: Well definitely a solid guy. Yeah, who can do the job. 517 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: So we'll see, Yeah you combine everything, Yeah, exactly. Another 518 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: guy we're just gonna brush through him. But just to 519 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: mention him. We already talked about him a lot last week. 520 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Step on Gilmore, Yeah, him coming in the team. Everybody 521 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: loves Brian. Wasn't wasn't on our show last week? Were 522 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: you no? What? Yeah? Just curious what's your thoughts on 523 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: you were? Wait? What I was? I know I've been here, 524 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: you were It wasn't, Derek d because I did ask 525 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: you because about it, because I build you for it. 526 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: So I think I was here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because 527 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: I remember thinking when we when we did the Colts game, 528 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I thought he was a guy that 529 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: was like he's not what he used to be or whatever. 530 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not, but he's still He got an interception 531 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: and then in five targets and only two receptions on 532 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: him on that day, So yeah, he's the thing about 533 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: it is, I talked to my guys and gals around 534 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: the league that watched tape full time, you know, through 535 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: these teams and both moves at Dallas made everybody was 536 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: on board. I didn't hear anybody like I don't know 537 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: about that one. You're not gonna get anything. Everything was 538 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: very very positive about Gilmore. Everything was very positive about Cooks. 539 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: I think the thing with Gilmore and I mentioned this earlier, 540 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: and you know, like you said, Amber, we can get 541 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: through this. No new money, no new money. There. He 542 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: didn't come in here and say, listen, for me to 543 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: make this trade, we've got to rework my contract, We've 544 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: got to do this. There weren't a lot of demands. 545 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: He was very interested in. You know, he was very 546 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: positive about If you listen to his press conference, he's 547 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: talking about his family, the Cowboy fans and his family. 548 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: He's very excited about being here and the fact you 549 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: got him, and he's you know, he's not interested in saying, well, 550 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: you got to give me an extra five million dollars 551 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: and you got to add years, you got to do that. No, 552 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: it was he was clearly ready to play. He was 553 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: happy about it, and he could still play at a 554 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: high level. Yeah, and I want to know when the 555 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: last time he's gone to a place where he is 556 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's he's the number two cornerback 557 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: because I don't I don't know. I mean, I don't know. 558 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: Got some good athletes coming in here. It looks like 559 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: we need to draft one of these guys. And we 560 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: got a tour coming through here. Um, but I think 561 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: that you know, who knows who's better between Gilmour and Diggs. 562 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: But let's find out. I mean, let's let's let's see. 563 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe maybe this guy pushes a little bit, 564 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: maybe Diggs pushes him, you know, as far as like, 565 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, let's go who's got the number one guy? 566 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: We talked about it all the time. Well, his dig's 567 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: gonna cover him? What if Gilmore covers him? You know, 568 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows? This is a good problem to have. Well, 569 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: same as the wide receiver position. You meet personally, definitely 570 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: feel a lot better now than at this time last year, 571 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: right of how they had addressed us, Well, how did 572 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: you feel in December when they were trying to win 573 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: games and they kept we couldn't figure out who the 574 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: left corner was exactly? You know, Oh it's Kelvin Joseph, Oh, 575 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: it's it's Izzy, Oh it's I mean, how many guys 576 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: did they It was like going to a movie going 577 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: through the turnstyle, like they you know, oh, hey, yeah, 578 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: try this guy, try this guy. Yeah, try I mean 579 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: how many different guys did they try? Yeah? You know, 580 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: and so yeah that that again, and this is a 581 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: deep draft. By the way, for corners. This is you know, 582 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 1: if they want to go and grab one at some 583 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: point in time, you should probably get a pretty good one. Yeah, 584 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: that's great. I mean, and and if if the first round, 585 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: if the best guy on their board is a corner, 586 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: I would I would consider it. I mean if it 587 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't beat my preference, you know, if all things 588 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: being equal. Because but then again, I would imagine that 589 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: they're going to try to resign Diggs. I hope that's 590 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: not in the They've got to do it sooner and 591 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: later because you don't have that fifth year option. And 592 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: if you ask me which one would they try and 593 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: do first, I think Diggs is going to be the 594 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: more difficult. I just think it's gonna be tough. And 595 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: you don't have that extra year to work with, you know, 596 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: you just don't. Now you can use franchise tags and 597 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I don't think that the Diggs 598 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: contract is going to be anything easy. I mean, Adam Pacific, 599 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: those guys. I think they work really really hard with 600 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: these agents to try and lake groundwork and to see 601 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: what they have to do. But this one is not 602 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: going to be You have a very emotional player, you know, 603 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: and a player that likes to kind of put his 604 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: business out there a little bit in social media. So 605 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: we'll see how this place. Yeah, but I think I 606 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: think that they are trying to resign them. I think 607 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, you got Gilmore hearing drawn Bland looks like 608 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: a good young player. Um, you know, you drafted two 609 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: other guys that you know. I mean, let's be honest, 610 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: when when they drafted Kelvin Joseph in the second round 611 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: and Nashan right in the third round, I don't think 612 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: that they expected that the very next season they would 613 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: be having to find all these corners off the street 614 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: and then trade for whatever they have not hit the expectations. 615 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's easy. That's facts. Yea. And so 616 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: you know what their future looks like is up to 617 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: them really at this point. Oh yeah, let's take our 618 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: final break. 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I would think some people are, 665 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, let's talk about some of them. 666 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: Find some cool stuff. Shop there you go pro shop 667 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: to help you out. Yeah, whatever you need, it's there. 668 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: Dante Fowler Fowler, Um, he's a guy that signed a 669 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: one year deal with the Cowboys, a guy that clearly 670 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: dan Quinn really likes, and a guy that he's a 671 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: low key, very important guy in the defense. He's not 672 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: necessarily getting all the attention from the flashy place making there, 673 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: but he's a he was a very productive guy and 674 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: a key player. I in my eyes for them for 675 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: six sacks, six sacks is good? Is you know that's 676 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: a that's a good role player there. Yeah, I think 677 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: that to me that there was some questions like could 678 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: he still come in and give you something? And and 679 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: clear I'm I'm learning. You know, you're three of dan 680 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: Quinn and defensive coaching staff. Just bring them guys. They'll 681 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: coach these guys up, they'll figure out, they'll get the 682 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: best out of them. They'll they'll find find spots for 683 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: him to play. You don't have questions about defense. Here's 684 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: the questions we have about the offense. How's it gonna be, 685 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: how's it gonna look, who's gonna play where, who's gonna 686 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: line up where? You know? I mean, that's that's kind 687 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: of where I'm with. But the defense, if you you've 688 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: told me, hey, if they keep adding defensive players, I'm 689 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: just gonna like a Dan Quinn and the staff will 690 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: figure it out. This has been an A. UM. I 691 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: would grade this this this as an A minus to 692 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: an AH this whole offseason free agency for the Cowboys. 693 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: So okay, can I ask you a question? Well, yeah, 694 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna get it to an A plus. I 695 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: can get to an A plus. Can you get to 696 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: A plus? Okay? They love to draft, right, that's their 697 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: favorite thing to do. If you just if you took 698 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: out the trades, what would you give them grade wise? Um, 699 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: I think you give them a B minus. Yeah. See 700 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: that's absolutely because See we're so used to around here, 701 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: sign our own, develop our own, you know, bring I 702 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: think I think because the whole thing I thought the 703 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: first signing was honestly gonna be on the opening day 704 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: of free agency on that Monday or the tampering period, 705 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna run the Jake Jake McQuaid one 706 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: at me. You know, they're gonna run that one at me. 707 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: And everybody else is signing, you know, big time players, 708 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, they got the long snapper done. 709 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: But on day two they started doing things. You know, 710 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: when that Donovan Wilson won, I didn't think they could 711 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: get done, not from what I was hearing from the combine. Again, 712 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: give the front office a lot of credit for getting 713 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: that done, but to me, that's I would have I 714 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: would have just kind of like you. I would have said, 715 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: be be mine. It's kind of what they do, you know, 716 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: maybe even a C they just but but the fact 717 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: that they got guys back that I didn't think they 718 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: were gonna get vander esh. I didn't think they were 719 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna get Donovan Wilson done. But then these trains Aid's 720 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: kind of put it over the top for me. When 721 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: you start to talk about your AH and I'll let 722 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: you talk about the A plus. I just I just 723 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: think right now they've done everything they needed to do 724 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: so far, and you know, and they let Schultz go, 725 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: which is fine. I had no problems with that. I 726 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: don't think that was gonna be a good snare to 727 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: bring him back. The one that to me that can 728 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: bring it over the top, to me, is just Hankins. 729 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: You see a big difference there with Hankins when he 730 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: wasn't there, and I think he's a different type of player. Um, 731 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: they want him, they want him back, but they're standing 732 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: their ground just like they did with Fowler. Give him, 733 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: give him credit for that. The deal is there. You 734 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: can shop it if you want to, But go shop 735 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: at Dante Fowler and see if you think that that 736 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: little extra money and not being with dan Quinn is 737 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: going to be better for you. Yeah, I think the 738 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's not. And I think that's 739 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: what Hankins is doing right now. Nick's absolutely right. I 740 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: talked to guys around the league. I say, what are 741 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: you hearing about Hankins, And they're like, he's just dragging 742 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: his feet. He's dragging his feet here. He's not interesting. Mean, 743 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: he's just kind of dragging and kind of figuring out 744 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: what he wants to do and stuff like that. And 745 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, you got people like you say the Cowboys 746 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: would love to deal with them. You know, but it's 747 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: just it's on the player too. I think the Cowboys 748 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: have done a really good job of systematically taking things 749 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: off their checklist. You know, obviously they had Donovan Wilson 750 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: on the top of that checklist, and then they got 751 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: that one done, and then they got vander Esh done. 752 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: Oh wait, we can have a child. Nobody saw the corner. 753 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: Nobody in the league saw them trading for for that 754 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: corner they're at Indianapolis. No. I mean people are asking 755 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: me like, man, did you know, No, no way, that 756 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: was one of those that might have been one of 757 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: those when they were at the and Steven Jones and 758 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard are good friends, you know, the Indianapolis GM, 759 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: and so you're you're kind of like maybe at the combine, 760 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: maybe they bumped into each other. Hey, you know, I've 761 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: got to Gilmore available you Yeah, what do you want? 762 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: And then you know, you circle back. Nobody saw that, 763 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: and then you know, they they they kind of been 764 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: picking off guys. They moved on. They clearly with Dalton Schultz, 765 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: they gave it a run with Dalton Schultz. I'm talking 766 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: to people around the league that are hearing, like with 767 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz that they that the Cowboys made a significant 768 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: offer to him, like a five year, twelve million dollars 769 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: a year kind of deal that he turned down. Yeah 770 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, so, I mean this is coming from guys 771 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: around the league. Hey, listen to last year. Yeah, last year, yeah, 772 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, Like, hey, I heard, I heard Dallas 773 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: did this. Yeah, you know, nobody had Dallas will admit that. Yeah. No, 774 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean no, these guys are gonna no, no, no, 775 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: we're not gonna tell you that. But you know, but 776 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: people around the league that I trust are like, yeah, 777 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: they Dallas did what they had to do to try 778 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: and get the guy done. And now you know, now 779 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: that we'll see, we'll see, he'll go on. But there's again, 780 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: this is a very very very deep draft with tight 781 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: ends and and and they have a you know, I 782 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: think you know, it's not so much Ferguson last year 783 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: for me that that that gives you that that comfort 784 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: to let him go. It's it's hender shot. It's looking 785 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: at what these two guys did. He's having them both there, 786 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: and look at what Charlts had to develop into his 787 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: first two years. He had only had twelve catches totally, 788 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: or maybe thirteen. These two guys have kind of already 789 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: done that. They looked like they've got a little bit 790 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: more um athleticism, and they also shined when Cooper Rush 791 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: was in or at least Ferguson did as well. So, um, 792 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: I think that they'll did. I see photos of the 793 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: Dak yard the other day. I thought both of them 794 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: are out there. At least Ferguson was for sure, which 795 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: is great that developed that thing because Dak wants to 796 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: throw the ball to the tight end. We know that 797 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: and so be available, get up the field, make plays. 798 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: I think it helps Schultz get his money. It'll help 799 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 1: these guys as well. Well. You know, you guys already 800 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: mentioned a lot of the names from the defensive side 801 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: of the ball to Art staying with the Cowboys and 802 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: nat Quinn, Donovan Wilson, Layton Manderesh. We got h Tack, McKinley, 803 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: we got CJ. Goodwin. Tack McKinley was just a one. 804 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: He played, not played. He was active for one game 805 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: right elevated, But they didn't see That's again, you know, 806 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: when we're talking about what a veteran player, you get 807 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: into preseason games, you're trying to kind of close games out. 808 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you're like a veteran guy in there that you know, 809 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: get a bunch of rookies or a bunch of you know, 810 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: free agents, and you know you have one guy in 811 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: there that can beat a bad tackle, you know, a 812 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: couple of times. That's that's McKinley. I mean, that's what 813 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: he is. We'll see if in fact that he can 814 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: elevate because if he's been with these guys, Dan Quinn, 815 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: this guy, you know eighty, they know this guy, they 816 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: know this player, so hopefully that they can, you know, 817 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: get something out of him a little bit more than 818 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: what I'm describing. And I don't know what the normal 819 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: number is around the league for teams, but I know this. 820 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: When the Cowboys, if they do draft at twenty six 821 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: this year, don't trade out of it. If they pick 822 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: a player, they'll have twelve first round picks on their team. 823 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 1: Twelve guys that were first round picks in their career. 824 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: Um that seems like a lot, and and McKinley is 825 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: one of them. So that doesn't mean you're getting twelve 826 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: talent of first round picks right now, but you're getting 827 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: some guys that at least have somebody thought somebody thought 828 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: it at some point not too long ago, Tyren Smithson, 829 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: that group, you know, Milly Cooker, uh, you know, goes 830 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: on and on. I mean there's eleven right now. But 831 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: but you know that that's a pretty that's a pretty 832 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: big number. And and um and Gilmore is in there. 833 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: I believe Cooks is as well. Yeah, so I mean 834 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: that's that's just showing that that they're getting some talented player. 835 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: Let's see if they still got some in the tank. 836 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: It was the second round pick. Thank, he was like, 837 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: round pick high, second round pick, tank lords. Yeah yeah, 838 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: I just traded up. You didn't say tank. I just 839 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: said they have something in the tank and oh thank 840 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: yeah okay, yeah, yeah, thank Okay. My humor is not 841 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,959 Speaker 1: Derek would have checked me on that one. He would 842 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: have given you the no and yeah you've been like 843 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: yeah after the show, he would have said something terrible joke. 844 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: Good one they signed him good when they signed him 845 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: to a one year deal. Yeah. Well see, and they 846 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: were losing. They were losing core guys, Gifford, you know, 847 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: and they lost Noah Brown. I saw bones the other day, 848 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: John Fossil. He was just like, oh my god, I 849 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 1: was losing so many guys. You know, but he said, 850 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: I got a couple of players, got some wild cards 851 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: on the on the team, guys that didn't play a 852 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: lost of special teams, like I got some wild cards here. 853 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: And he didn't mention he was talking about offensive guys. 854 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: But I think Devin Harper, it's got to be time 855 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: for him to exactly really take that, exactly take that 856 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: next leg step I think to finalize our list is 857 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. I don't think his deal had happened when 858 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: we know that, I didn't. I tell you what that's it. 859 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: That's a that's a sneaky good one for you right there. 860 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: I guy's five and one. I'm gonna just say this 861 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,959 Speaker 1: story here, this is how the story I think went. 862 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: And the Cowboys if they if they're excited, you're excited 863 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: about getting Cooper Rush, I think you can. You can 864 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: put it on the weather because Cooper Rush from from 865 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: from my from my understanding, Cooper somewhere at the airport 866 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: at the gate was going to Vegas. It was gonna 867 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: go to the Raiders at least gonna go visit and 868 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: they have an offer on the table. But it was 869 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: that Thursday night where there a lot of a lot 870 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: of weather was bad. They actually canceled his flight, and 871 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: I think he looked at and said, this is a sign, 872 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: and I'm going back, going back to Dallas, and I'm 873 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: at least going back home for the night. Next morning 874 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: he signs with the Cowboys. So I mean that's it's 875 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: a good story. Yeah, I good story. I hope that's true. 876 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: I think it's true. And the weather was bad that night, 877 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: and you know when when you don't really want to leave, um, 878 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: you know you maybe sometimes you're looking for signs like that. 879 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: And I think this is a good move for him. 880 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Raiders would be a good 881 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: backup spot for him. Anyways, they got, they got Garoppolo, 882 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: they got They're gonna draft someone probably, We'll see what 883 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: happens there. This is a good spot. He's comfort comfortable 884 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: with Dak. He's still got to beat out Will Greer, 885 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: though Will Greer was was coming on strong last year, 886 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: so it'll it'll be interesting. And according to Jerry Jones, 887 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: Arnald's gonna be drafting a quarterback every year in the draft. 888 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: I believe it when I see it. I think they'll 889 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: pick a quarterback this year. Yeah, but I don't think 890 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: the year, I don't, but we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. 891 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: Like he's it's it's it's not a bad plan. I 892 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: grew up in that planning green Bay, and it's not 893 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: a bad plan. It really is. One year we had 894 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: a look at for that. What's that? What round are 895 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: you looking at for that? It'll be interesting to see 896 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,439 Speaker 1: if they take one at the third round, that would 897 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: be that would be very interesting. It might be very 898 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: telling if you take one that early. But there's there's 899 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: some good ones in this draft. There are actually some 900 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: really good cornerback. My favorite is a kid named Hendon 901 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: Hooker from Tennessee. And but you're probably they would have 902 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 1: to grab him. I think maybe late second, early third 903 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: what you would have to grab him. But yeah, we'll see, 904 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: there's there's aarreer. But doing that though. One year in 905 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay, like I say, we had Brett Farve, Mark Burnell, 906 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: Ty Detmer, and Kurt Warner or four quarterbacks, and we 907 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: went after Warner. He was a free agent, but we 908 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 1: went after him because we had him on the board. 909 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: So when you go and you just stockpile as many 910 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks him at Albertson's where you sign up. 911 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: He was Yeah, this is pre bag, this is pre bagger, 912 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: this is pre bag into then he went, he went, 913 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: He went from us to bagging to barnstorming and then 914 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP and Super Bowl. Usually the way it works, 915 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely, that's how the path of the Hall 916 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks that works. Yeah, you get cut, go bag, 917 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: go barnstorm go back leg. Yeah, I love it all right, 918 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 1: and that is all the time we have for today's show. 919 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, guys for Nicki Mint Brian brought us. 920 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm Amber Garcia. This has been the Break on Das 921 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of 922 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.