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Speaker 1: who's this you know it's anonymous? Anonymous? Get it off

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Speaker 1: sound a little stupid this morning. Michael. Hey, how's been doing? Brother?

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Speaker 1: Good morning? Everybody? Good good boyd game you know if

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Charlotte Man? Good morning? How are you sir?

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Speaker 1: This morning? Man? I was at I was at usp

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Speaker 1: I remember you. Man? Is that a jail? I'm okay, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: you don't write a rap album? I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: on paper. Were you still? It was something he said

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Speaker 1: we've been in breakfast club for ten years. So what

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Speaker 1: right now? Man, I'm gonna be your hunters with you?

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Speaker 1: You went off from was it crazy bones? Hold up? Man?

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Speaker 1: It was hey, it was That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: seventeen years ago. Bro, you gotta let it go. That

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Speaker 1: and all these all the things. Man's been cloud chasing

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Speaker 1: Why do you keep seeing? You gonna be honest? What

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Speaker 1: Gotta fill him in, Charlomagne, it says twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he gots baggy jeans and the beat, but stills,

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Speaker 1: you just gotta help him out that Twitter thing, that

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right, get it off your chest

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Speaker 1: eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If

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Speaker 1: you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's

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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club coming. Did your time to get it

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Speaker 1: you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this Angel? Angel?

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Speaker 1: Will suck getting off your chest? Hey, I just want

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Speaker 1: to say that, Hey, Seanan is right. I think guards

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Speaker 1: the vindicant and I'm I'm gonna keep you proof. Why

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Speaker 1: when when YG was there and he was giving those

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Speaker 1: of it, all the Spanish words before Angel. Think. I think, Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: it might be Angel. That wasn't me. That was drama?

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Speaker 1: Was the board out that that? That is not true?

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Speaker 1: Why don't you stop claim you that wasn't me, that

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Speaker 1: was Angel? That you Dominican? No, okay, I thought you

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Speaker 1: wanted to claim envy, all right, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: you don't want him to be Salvadorian. Maybe he's Savadurian instead.

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Speaker 1: Oh maybe he thank'd be Just just just just own it.

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Speaker 1: Just teach me a sentence, man, say something, I'll repeat it.

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Speaker 1: Uh who saw? And you know? See, okay, I got that.

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Speaker 1: What do you say? He said? I like breakfast? Hello?

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Speaker 1: Who's this we comedian? Say? And get you off your chests.

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank God for this stage, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know. Look, I'm thank God for this day,

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Speaker 1: You're not just blessed in Holly Favorite, you're blessed black

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Speaker 1: God for it. Thank you. Hello. Who's this? What's up?

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Speaker 1: you started your business this weekend? Man, I started me

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Speaker 1: of my business this weekend as a hot dog cart

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Speaker 1: I just gotta take some time to like but he

416
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: just I got my next ten fifteen year playing But

417
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: I just want to really see I want to execute

418
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 1: that because I look at people like Magic Johnson. I

419
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: love Magic like that's my mentor, Like you know what

420
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just love the fact that he's solid,

421
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: he lives his life, he got balanced around him. He

422
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: takes care of his friends in the way he's giving

423
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 1: them experiences, and he's traveling. He see in the world.

424
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 1: But if you look at other athletes that came up

425
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: with him, they're not set up like that. So that

426
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: just tells me that I gotta move in that way

427
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: if that's what I want to be in ten, fifteen,

428
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: twenty years, because that's what I respect. You know what

429
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I love um, you know, Allen iverson

430
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: to different people. And I know that Kevin Real was

431
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 1: hanging out in the strip clothes and me and all that.

432
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: But then I have to look at somebody like Magic Johnson.

433
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: After he was, you know, a great basketball player, Now

434
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: he's a great husband. Now he's a great father, and

435
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: now he's a great you know, mentor now he's he's

436
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: a great businessman. And I watched this move because I

437
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: remember when he had the NAA, we're gonna do that

438
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: the Magic Johnson theaters. Ye find its like we didn't

439
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: see the move then, you know, we were just going on.

440
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: But he was already making his moves. And you really

441
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: think about Atlanta, all the history that had happened in

442
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: Visits nightclub, right, so all the all the history that

443
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: happened there, he told all that down and build you know, uh,

444
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: hot rises. So he was powerful enough to come take

445
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: our whole night life away and build high rises on

446
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: that street and give them to his son, you know

447
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I look at things like that

448
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: and I go, man like, to me, that's that's the

449
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: American dream. Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I,

450
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty cold at what I do. I

451
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: think I'm in Charlotte Maine's Top five. I know, so

452
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: you got you gotta be hard to be there. But

453
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: it's just like, is that the only contribution I want

454
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: to make to the world. I don't think so well.

455
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: The album is out tomorrow, TM one on four TM

456
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: one on four. We appreciate you for joining us. Hey man,

457
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all for having man shout side the figures

458
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Speaker 1: Wiless South Side of defines fuel South Side of New

459
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Speaker 1: York City, UM South SOUTHDAYC ninety nine shouts out to

460
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. All right, well it's the Breakfast Club.

461
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: Is sir j Envy Angela Yee Charlomagne the guy? We

462
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: are to Breakfast Club? Now if you just joined us.

463
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: We were talking about Little Wayne's daughter, Yes, little an

464
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: Antoya Rice daughter, and she went to this cucumber pool

465
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: party and she previously had been really not excited about

466
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: these women doing this cucumber challenge. So people were getting

467
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: at her for being at the party, but she said, Okay, guys,

468
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: I want to say this. I went to the party

469
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: to spy on a wife and Lucci females, don't act

470
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: like you never did it. But when I heard about

471
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: the cucumber activities, I left. To be honest, I made

472
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: myself look like a fool for this man, and I

473
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: apologize for allowing you guys to see it. I'm young

474
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: and still learning. Now, have you ever a spot on

475
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: your man? Before you have? I ever did a pop up? Yeah?

476
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: You know, I've done a pop up. I don't trying

477
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: to think if I've ever gone to a party, but

478
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: I've definitely popped up at his house. I did that

479
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: a couple of times. One time I actually climbed through

480
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: the window. That's a real pop up. And that's because

481
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: I knew something was going on. And sometimes even though

482
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: we know things, we want to see it with our

483
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: own eyes. I don't know why, but I guess that

484
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: was really the end of it for me, to be

485
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: able to see somebody doing something with my own eyes. Yeah,

486
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: I've done it once to twice. Charlemagne always, I grew

487
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: up a very insecure young man, too, and when you're

488
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: the type of person like me who was cheating on

489
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: my woman and made me feel guilty, so that on

490
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: top of my insecurity, I thought she was doing dirt

491
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: when she wasn't. So yes, I popped up at jobs.

492
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: I've popped up at dorms, iopped up class apartments. I

493
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: popped up the class. Will my motorcycle right to a class. Well,

494
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: well you think she was doing in class? I don't know,

495
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. You just want to see maybe she

496
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: passing a note, maybe she holding her hands like as

497
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: a guy a guy when a guy is already doing dirt,

498
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: like you automatically think your woman is just like you know,

499
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: sucking everywhere. You know what I'm saying. Like even if

500
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: she's not like any you can go down anytime, any place.

501
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: So yes, I definitely had guys pop up on me.

502
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: That was at parties. And listen, I'll leave a party

503
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: if somebody tried to pop up on me, I slide

504
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: out and like this is ridiculous. All you pop up

505
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: like you know, like I say, like say, like you know,

506
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: my wife was in college. They used to be partying

507
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: at this place called five points five pence puts all

508
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: the college kids used to go on Thursday night. I mean,

509
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: anybody could go hang out there, but that wasn't really

510
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: my scene. But you just pop up at a random place,

511
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: like what are you doing here? Like, you know, you

512
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: just just be in Charlotte Ruce while she in there,

513
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: like why are you in Charlotte's Ruce? He's doing a

514
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: little shot rusself. But you know, you just you just

515
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: pop up in random places. You ain't got no business being.

516
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: Why are you at my old b g y n oh?

517
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just say nothing, Hello, who's this? Hello?

518
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: My name is jazz Man. How are you going? Jazzmine

519
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: Queen of the pop up Jasmine is way too loud

520
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: to be popping up on somebody. No, definitely pop up

521
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: on that. But let me tell y'all, let me tell y'all,

522
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: I'm really the pop up queen though. Let me I

523
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: had a tractor on my on my baby Daddy cars

524
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: for like three years and he never knew it. Wow,

525
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: he like damn't like thinking that his friends on them

526
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: and everything like that. But really he had no idea

527
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: that I was just like chucking at as though all

528
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: day every day. I don't know how he couldn't figure

529
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: that out when you were just showing up place to

530
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: put a track on somebody's call. Clearly they do, Jasmine,

531
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: you're crazy, crazy, he'll don't play with me, And you

532
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: did that for three years. He never knew though, right,

533
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: he never knew so little thing. Like one time he

534
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: went out to eat with this girl, Like I said

535
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: in the parking Jobs, I let him eat it. Everything

536
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: that went back to his apartment, you know what I'm saying,

537
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: Like I'm just just following him. He's like, okay, so

538
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: this inky. So I just you know, I just walk

539
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: up to the apartment, knocked on the door. They turned

540
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: off the lights and stuff trying to hide and stuff,

541
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: and the texting the girl's phone, like like he got

542
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: five minutes to come outside on coming in that bag

543
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: thing and like they scattered up that up as crazy

544
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: that for three years he wasn't scared enough to stop

545
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: doing the stuff he was doing. Sharing. Yeah, you ever

546
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: popped upon an ex or man or your man? You

547
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: know what? No, because of something that's going on. I

548
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: don't want to know about it. You're getting when you

549
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: go looking for trouble. But here's my story. So I

550
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: found out that my suons the ex husband, Uh put

551
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: his cell phone in my car. So one day on

552
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: part and all of a sudden, I just hear this

553
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: music out of the blue, and I'm like, what is that?

554
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: So I looked at my fat feet and he shoved

555
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: his cell phone in between my back seat so he

556
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: could track me. So he didn't have his cell phone

557
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: on him, he just left it him. Yeah, exactly. He

558
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: said he had a second form. Dang, wow, he had

559
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: to charge that every day. That's that smart. Why did

560
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: he not trust you? Was there a reason or he

561
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: just hit insecurities? M M all right, thank you exactly. DeAngelo. Yo,

562
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: you propped upon your wife's man. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

563
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: good morning. By the way, good morning. He's liked good

564
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: morning Christa mom. I'm not crazy, but uh well yeah,

565
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: I responded to what she did. She wouldn't and I

566
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: didn't want her to go out, So I got my

567
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: daughter in the up, put my dog yell the truck

568
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: and pulled up at the club on called her in line.

569
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: But at the day it was I knew that I

570
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: brought my dog with him because I felt like, I

571
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: don't have to go into the club. But I didn't

572
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: have to go in the club. Thank god. But I

573
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: got out cause a little thing in the line got

574
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: her in the truck and then we pulled off. You

575
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: brought your dog, can't get out the car and your

576
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: daughter and me while I'm yelling that huff. So you

577
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: was gonna bring your dog and daughter in the club

578
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: to final Now I was gonna be the dog and

579
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: the daughter in the car while I was in the club.

580
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: How old is your daughter? Oh? She was a baby? Baby?

581
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: Then baby, So you're about to go to jail. You're

582
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: about to go to jail because of your own in charity.

583
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: Nice one of those nights, man, you should the dog

584
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: in the club and he rasdalized it. But you know what,

585
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: my dog go watched my daughter while I go to

586
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: the club for a second. I have the best guard

587
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: dog anyword I wanted to did it? Had my dog

588
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: been been been like he want and his mother water?

589
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: But you know, all right, man, I'm sorry, that's too much.

590
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: I have a god, I ain't gonna front. That ain't

591
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: a bad idea. I leave, I lead the dog in

592
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: the car with the kids. I'm terrible like this. Shut up?

593
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: What's the mall of the story, the all of the stories?

594
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: Get your insecurities together. Bro Okay, trust me, I've been there.

595
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for Reginator. But she young though, you

596
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, So I get it. You know

597
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: you're just happening for her. Yeah, you do stuff like

598
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: that when you're young, when you have those insecurities and

599
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: you know you just want to make sure somebody doing

600
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: it right by you. I get it, I get it,

601
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: all right. We got more coming up next with a

602
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: breakfast club wanting everybody is DJ Envy and Angela ye

603
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: Cholamine the guy. We all the breakfast club. We got

604
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: some special guests in the building. Yes, sir, you have

605
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: Michael Eric Dyson, who has a book that's coming out,

606
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: jay Z Made in America. Yes, sir, and it's of

607
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: course on jay Z as well. That's true too. Couldn't

608
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: be better. I mean, from your mouth to God's ears.

609
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: What is this book about? Well, you know, as uh,

610
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: sister Angela was saying, I've been teaching a course on

611
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: jay for like the last decade and nearly the last decade,

612
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: i should say, And so I wanted to take what

613
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: I've been doing in that class and put in the

614
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: book because it appeared to me as it should to

615
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: anybody when you're pouring over these lyrics. This dude is

616
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: a rhetorical genius, his verbal invention, He's got all kinds

617
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: of skills, and the irony is as great as people

618
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: think Jay is. He's underrated. He's underrated because they don't

619
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: understand the mechanics behind what he's doing, the kind of

620
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: poetic rules and inventions, the use of metaphor similarly, how

621
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: sophisticated it is. And then when you're adding there the

622
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: fact he don't even write it down. This book kind

623
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: of is the finishing of the trilogy of figures who

624
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: have been incredibly important and influential in the world of

625
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: hip hop. It's interesting, you've been teaching this course at

626
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Georgetown for ten years and so much has happened in

627
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: jay Z's life in the course of that ten years.

628
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: So how do you adjust to that as you come

629
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: up with your syllabus every year. Yeah, that's a great point. Well,

630
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: you got to involve, you know, And and Hope is

631
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: putting out so much work and putting in so much

632
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: work and doing so many things because it's not just

633
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: the music he's doing, it's what he's doing beyond the

634
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: culture um of hip hop itself, or it's especially beyond rap,

635
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: so his business ventures, his engagement in the world, his

636
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial um, you know, exploits, his criminal justice reform stuff,

637
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and then just the music itself,

638
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: just the words themselves, the density of his poetic inventiveness.

639
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: It's something that I'm preoccupied with. So every time out,

640
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, we focus on a different aspect or a

641
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: different level of his creativity and look at new stuff

642
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: he's done. Well do you guys communicate with each other? Um,

643
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, pretty pretty routinely. Um. You know. The best

644
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: best thing he did for me on this book. People say, well,

645
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: it's just an interview now, because I got my ideas.

646
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't need to interview. Hope, I've been I've been

647
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: thinking about him for a decade. The most amazing thing

648
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: he did for me was to allow me to quote

649
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: from these lyrics so that I could stretch out and

650
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: interpret him. Because you know, and most most publishers are

651
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: very skittish, only do half a sentence. You got to

652
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: pay for it copyright, We might get sued, And so

653
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: I would reach out to my safe I say, man,

654
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: I I can you help, can you get God forgive

655
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: me for my BRANDT delivery. But I remember vividly what

656
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: the did to me. Imagine me allowing you to nitpick

657
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: and me portray me like a pickan me. So you know,

658
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: and I had asked it him, could he could he

659
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: give me permission? And he when he signed off, it

660
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: blew my publisher's mind. But that's why even on the

661
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: cover you see the lyrics to the old JA song

662
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: emboss there. That's pretty dope cover. I must say I didn't.

663
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't do it, but it's a pretty

664
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: nice cover. And we wanted to do something that was

665
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: worthy of hoping on the inside you and see that

666
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: boskiot influenced kind of artwork on the inside there, So

667
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: you know he gave permission to do that, and that

668
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: that makes a big difference. Why is the book dedicated

669
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: to Michael Rubin and Robert Frederick Smith? Yeah, well you

670
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: know both of them are interestingly enough, are connected to

671
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Jay on his criminal justice reform, you know, reform alliance.

672
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: And you know Michael Rubin was instrumental in helping Meek

673
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: Mill get out of jail. So for that alone, I

674
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: gotta give you some love. Yeah, But then understanding that

675
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: you got to leverage that to a larger issue that

676
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Jay is concerned about. Cash bales are jacked up, the

677
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: kind of dysfunction of the criminal justice system that saw

678
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Meek Mill go in and out of prison for parole

679
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: violations for a decade for some nonsense when he was

680
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: a child or a young team or a teenager. And

681
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: then you know, to address that as he used to

682
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: call him owners but partners of the Philadelphia seventy six ers,

683
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: is worthy of that in Robert Frederick Smith, when you

684
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: go to the Moorhouse and drop forty mile on him

685
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: and say, look, I will take care of your bills

686
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: and your future is vouchsafed and it's secure as a

687
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: result of what this gesture is about, I gotta show

688
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: love and respect. So both of them are connected to

689
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: that reform alliance, but both of them have done significant

690
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: things to advance the ball in terms of advocating for

691
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: the future of young black men in America and young

692
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: black people. What what what? What is Jay Z gotten

693
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: right in this whole NFL situation and what have you

694
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: gotten wrong? Well, look, I think that you know, people say, oh,

695
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: he's sold out, he just messed up. He first of all,

696
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: he's rocking the Colin Kaepernick jersey, and then he turns

697
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: around and he's and he's telling other artists not to

698
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: be involved in the Super Bowl. And then he turns

699
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: around and he's advising them, and he's cutting a deal.

700
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: I think what people misunderstand is that you got to

701
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: have a three point shooter, and you got to have baseline.

702
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: You got to have Steph Curry, and you got to

703
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: have Lebron going in and jamming the ball, and you

704
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: got to have people occupying both spaces inside outside, Martin

705
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: Viking Junior standing outside, I have a dream criticizing the

706
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: social injustices that prevail. But then Martin Viking Junior going

707
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: inside with Lyndon Baines Johnson the President and saying, how

708
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: do we craft the Civil Rights Bill of nineteen sixty four?

709
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: How do we craft legislation for the Voting Rights Act? Now,

710
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act is brought into existence not because

711
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: of the good graces of the presidency or the desire

712
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: even though LBJ wanted to do that, but he wanted

713
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: to have a social condition that prevailed a political pressure

714
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: brought to bear to make it sensible to do so.

715
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: That's how things work. And so when jay Z is

716
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: out putting pressure on the NFL, people don't give him

717
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: credit for this. That the fact that he said, don't

718
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: go do the Super bowls and halftime show. And look

719
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: we in stadiums too, m we in stadiums too, that

720
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: puts pressure. They didn't just do it because of the

721
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: goodness of their hearts. They saw this man will significant

722
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: economic influence and cultural power, and as a result of that,

723
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: the pushback was genuine and palpable. So now they invite

724
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: him in to have a conversation. What's these uses to go? No,

725
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: I want you to do right. Oh, but I'm not

726
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what I think is right. Well, if

727
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: I tell you what you're doing is wrong, and then

728
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: you invite me into the conversation to say what's right,

729
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: I gotta sit down and tell you. So for me,

730
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: jay Z going inside is really responding to the pressure

731
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: he brought to bear on the outside and sitting down

732
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: talking about either the acts that are going on in

733
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: halftime all right, but the social justice agenda. And do

734
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: we really doubt that Colin Kaepernick, whatever you think of that,

735
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, a bold, amazing, iconic social justice figure, would

736
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: never have had an opportunity to even have what is

737
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: now a botched you know, out in audition for the

738
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: NFL without jay Z bringing pressure to bear. Now the

739
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: people who were critical Jay said, well, damn you think

740
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: at Leasy could have done. It's got my man a job.

741
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: First of all, that any high work. Are you not

742
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: understanding of how it works? Roger Goodell, who is the commissioner,

743
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: can't even go to a team and make them do it.

744
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: But can they leverage authority? Yeah? Can they say wink

745
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: wink not and not come home? Bro, Let's do something

746
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: for this guy. Jay Z is putting enormous pressure. You know,

747
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, if he wanted to do that, he would

748
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: have done so before jay Z came on the scene.

749
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: So we know jay Z's presence was significant there. So

750
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: for me, it's the inside versus outside dichotomy that we've

751
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: got to reckon with and we got to stop the hate.

752
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: If you disagree with me, then I'm a comb then

753
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm a sellout. I'm not saying that they are not

754
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: people who have done dastardly things in the name of

755
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: racial duty and who deserved to be called out or

756
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: at least called to account, but the ready, ready resort

757
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: to trying to beat people up. And you a cone

758
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: and you you know what, you coon and somebody today,

759
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be coon the next day. You canceling

760
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: somebody today, You're gonna get canceled yourself the next day.

761
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: We got more with Michael Eric Dison where we come back,

762
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: don't move. It's the Breakfast Club back, It's the Breakfast Club.

763
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: DJ n v angel Ye Charlomagne the guy. We have

764
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: Michael Eric Diyson in the building. What do you think

765
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: about Stephen A. Smith's take on Colin Kaepernick not actually

766
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: conforming with too what the NFL wanted him to do. Well,

767
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, I was on Look, Stephen A. Smith is

768
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: a friend of mine. I'm friendly with Colin Kaepernick. I

769
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: love and adore him, and I think, look, what Stephen A.

770
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: Smith was trying to suggest is that in the context

771
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: of what the NFL is, first of all, we know

772
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: they messed up. We know they jacked up. We know

773
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: they took a job from you that you shouldn't have

774
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: had taken from you. You know this right. Anyway, that's

775
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: not a mystery. The fact that Colin Kaepernick even as

776
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: to be in this position is fundamentally unjust the fact

777
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: that he is to be begging for something, not begging

778
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: asking for something, an opportunity to show that he is

779
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: capable of performing in an NFL when he didn't because

780
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: of his own merit old to do that when because

781
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't his arm wasn't good, it wasn't that he

782
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: not true enough, He had some troubles when he was starting,

783
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: and he was benched in favor of somebody else and

784
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: so on. That's all true. But the man still wills

785
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: tremendous talent, and it is better than half the people

786
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: starting right now, and certainly the people they go on

787
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: the street and find and bring into the NFL, because

788
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: their desk before a quarterback. So there's no question that

789
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: the white supremacists outlooking mindset in worldview and feltonshonging in

790
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: every other word you can generate of these owners that

791
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: prevents them from understanding that their own bigotry and bias

792
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: will keep Colin Kaepernick on the sidelines. Is a serious

793
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: issue that cannot be dismissed. And this is the tradition.

794
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: If I can say that that some black people, including

795
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, come from, here's the position black people

796
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: always against the eyes. It ain't never fair, Right, Martin

797
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: LUs King Jr. Could forget a waiver on a contract

798
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: forgetting that. I'm not saying that that's not important, right,

799
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: because if the waiver being signed was to suggest that

800
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: somehow you would you would surrender your right to be

801
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: able to sue in the future or to accuse people

802
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: of further collusion. Right, That's that's idiotic, and nobody trying

803
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: to do that. But the broader issue is this pharaoh

804
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: will never provide you a scholarship for freedom. Right. The

805
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: people who are your enemies and your opponents will never

806
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: grant you even the fair conditions for you to compete.

807
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: But the best of our people have competed against the odds.

808
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: Was it fair for Jackie Robinson to have to live

809
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: the way he did? No? Was it right? No? Did

810
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: he do it? Yes? Should we have to know? Should

811
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick have to exist by a kind of segregated

812
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: Jim Crow law in the modern era in twenty nineteen,

813
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: when we've had, you know, voting rights for black people

814
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: in the South since nineteen sixty five. No? No, but

815
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: his white supremacy is still real? Yes? Does it amplify

816
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: within the cauldrons of you know, the NFL and American

817
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: institutional culture and corporate cult. Absolutely. So the thing is

818
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: knowing that going in the door, you don't never expect

819
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: them to be fair. You demand, you request, but you

820
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: go out there and show, you know what, even what

821
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: your funky, foul, nefarious tricksterism, I'm gonna show you. I

822
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: can toss this rock, I can chuck this pill, I

823
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: can throw this pig skin, and I can do what's

824
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: necessarily do. Put the burden back on them. And then

825
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: if they don't hire you, even though we know now

826
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: he still can play, they already know that if they

827
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: don't hire you, that's on them. That's up to them.

828
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: So I think there's a tradition of black response, and

829
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: I know a lot of black people, Oh my god,

830
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: this is the politics of respectability, and you're trying to

831
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: prove that you're twice as good just to compete. I'm sorry,

832
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm sixty one years old. That's the generation I'm from, right,

833
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: So my point is is that yes, there is a

834
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 1: thing such as loving Colin Kaepernick, supporting Colin Kaepernick, wanting

835
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: him to do the best in the right thing, and

836
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: suggesting this, you could tighten up some of you some

837
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: of your strategy too. You could there's a way in

838
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: what you might approach this that might be different. This

839
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: is not to put the burden on him like you

840
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: do the right thing and then the NFL was let

841
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: off the hook. No, but we know we're living in

842
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: a white supremacist society where the patent unfairness and hypocrisy

843
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: is pervasive. So knowing that going in the door, be

844
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: armed to be able to compete and to deal with this.

845
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: This is why, by the way, when Martin Luther King

846
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: Junior and other figures in his brand to the movement

847
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: were involved, they were rigorously trained. They were taught principles,

848
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: they were talked about, They were taught about social injustice,

849
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: how to deal with potential scenarios that would prevail, that

850
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: allowed them to be able to do their best on

851
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: the battlefield. I would tell you something, man, I agreewed

852
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: a lot of what you said, most of it. And

853
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: if I was capp and I would have thought that

854
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: waiver what he was trying to get me to sign

855
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: over my rights to, you know, not be able to

856
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: sue the future. And if they would have gave me

857
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: an ultimatum that said, hey, I don't know if this

858
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: is true. I need to get ultimatum that I said,

859
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: take it to leave it. You got two hours, right,

860
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: I have said them. Of course, who wouldn't do that?

861
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have held the other tryout. And if

862
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I did hold the other tribe, I would have only

863
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: held it for attention. So when I got in front

864
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: of them cameras, I put them on blast with that waiver.

865
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: Well see that's the thing. See, here's the part of

866
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: the problem. You know, the NFL is saying one thing

867
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: about the waivers. They're swearing up and down. That's not

868
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: what it is, right, it's being misrepresentative, of course, and

869
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: cap side is saying something else. So we don't really

870
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: know what they showed them. I saw an article yesterday

871
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: where they showed the standard waiver and waver cap got.

872
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: It was definitely more language than caps would well, no doubt.

873
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: And in the bottom line is beyond the waiver, the

874
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: man has been mistreated. Ain't nobody else getting subject to

875
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: what he's being subjected. So it's criminal at that level,

876
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: there's no question about that. But that's different from us

877
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: than trying to figure out what is the strategic response?

878
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: And we don't have to be sellouts because we say hey,

879
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: there's a way in what you can do it is

880
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: it is it wrong to say, hey, Cap, it might

881
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: be good that when people trying to get at you

882
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: who know stuff about this, you could respond to them.

883
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: Right now. Let me give you an example. I love

884
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. I was at the Tyler Perry event, you know,

885
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: and when Beyonce thanked me for you know, showing love

886
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: to them all the time. After that, I don't know

887
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: really what happened. I'm just not sure if the time

888
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: stopped moving, if the float of eternity had descended with uh,

889
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: you know, powerful and poetic intensity, stop Hayden. So the

890
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: thing is is that Kaepernick came up to me said, look, man,

891
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm have to straighten you out about what's going on.

892
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: I said, cool, I'm available, right, I said, but Cap,

893
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: I'll be texting you. You give me a text when

894
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: you want me to be your pr guy to tell

895
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: what's going on in the world, But when I'm trying

896
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: to get at you, to interview you. I've defended Kaepernick

897
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: in my last three books and tears. We cannot stop

898
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: a sermon of White America and what truth sounds like?

899
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: Uh J Robert F. Kennedy, James Baldwin in the Conversation

900
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: Unfinished Conversation on Race in America, and now in this

901
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: book on jay Z, I love and adore him. I

902
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: admire him, but I think that there's a way in

903
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: which we could talk honestly behind the scenes about things. Now.

904
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: Ain't gotta be me and miss Nessa, a lovely, brilliant,

905
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: wonderful woman's partner, you know, said Hey, I want to

906
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: talk to you. I call both of them. Ain't got

907
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: no response. Now, I'm not trying to put them on blast.

908
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: That ain't my point, because you ain't gonna call Mikeelreg Dyson.

909
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, talk to people, and I hope you

910
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: are in your community. But is it wrong to say

911
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: we can talk off stage, off the phone, behind the scenes,

912
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: so I could offer whatever I do. I kind of

913
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: do this for a living. I've written twenty one books.

914
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: I've been teaching for thirty years. I'm out here in

915
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: these screets. I'm doing what I do. I'm saying I

916
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: do have something, and people usually pay me a bunch

917
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: of money for that. I'm trying to offer it to

918
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: you for free. You ain't gonna take my advice. But

919
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying engage, but don't be upset. Then in the

920
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: public sphere and square when I have to then talk

921
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: about there could be alternatives to strategic intervention. Can't do it.

922
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: It's hard for Colin. And that's where the trust people

923
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: at this moment, I can understand what I get it,

924
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: they get it. They get a lot of death threads,

925
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: and especially I think this whole situation with jay Z,

926
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: it just it divided the culture in a way that

927
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: it shouldn't It shouldn't have it shouldn't have done too.

928
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: At the same time, if you're telling, if you're challenging

929
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: me about you want to straighten me out, and I

930
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: call you to get straightened out, and you don't straighten

931
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: me out, dog get in on me and listen here,

932
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean therefore because I didn't hear from you,

933
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to do. I'm gonna be principled in my

934
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: response regardless. Yeah, it's going to speak on what you

935
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: know from what you I'm gonna speak for what I believe,

936
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: what I know, what I think, how I reflect the

937
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: understanding of how this stuff is operated in the past,

938
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: the ways in which leaders have clashed and disagreed. This

939
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: ain't the first time. Cancer culture didn't invent it. It

940
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: just amplifies it more. It makes it more immediate. We

941
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: got more with Michael Eric Dison where we come back,

942
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: don't move. It's to breakfast club the morning. You know,

943
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask you about but to well, Honestly,

944
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: I wish Cap would just say the NFL, that's number one.

945
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Honest I wish you would just be like, but I

946
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: don't want to play no more. I know, but look

947
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: at you. If somebody did that to you and they say,

948
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: I just wish Charlotte Magne would just say radio that's

949
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: what he that's his life. I was. I wouldn't beg

950
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: keep you starting the podcast is different than the whole league. Yeah,

951
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: come on, I'm just saying, man, it comes a point

952
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: in time where you have to have some integrity about yourself.

953
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: He has and stop and stop kind of like knocking

954
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: on these white people, dough when you know they don't

955
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: want to let you in. Well, all of us a

956
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: knocking on the white man's door. Oh you had to do?

957
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Is this a black on radio session? No, But I'm

958
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: not knocking. No, but if then you ain't gonna knock.

959
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: But if you but look how he said, Okay, they're

960
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: coming to get you. You ain't gonna knock, but I'm

961
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: gonna get you. All I'm simply saying is they was.

962
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: If they kicked me out right for three years, that's theory.

963
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: They kicked me out for three years, had no money,

964
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: support your family, your wife, looking at you. He got money,

965
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: though he got money. But I'm saying what he's passionate about.

966
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: He grew up and this is his life. Like football.

967
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: He wants to play in the NFL. Dude, he got skilled.

968
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: He was doing the vicep but he is Kaepernick. He

969
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: was one throw from winning the Super Bowl. This is

970
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: what he's born to do. If somebody tells me, Dison,

971
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: you can't speak, you can't teach, I'm gonna go teach

972
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: on the side road somewhere that's cold. But why deny

973
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: me a legitimate, legitimate opportunity to speak in a classroom

974
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: that I've earned a degree for And the only reason

975
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: I can't do it, to apply my wares and to

976
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: practice my craft is because of some arbitrary, racist refusal

977
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: to acknowledge me that that would go down real tough.

978
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing right now is the suffering

979
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: that comes from arguing with reality. Because I think Colin

980
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: Kaefernick is bigger than football. I think he's I think

981
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: he made. I think he stands for more than what

982
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: football is, and it might be as great as a gift.

983
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you gotta pay attention to

984
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: how God has pushed you in another direction, and especially

985
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: after last week and they gave him that wave of

986
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: that clearly shows they're still trying to collude against him

987
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: by t how would have gave him the middle finger

988
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: and been like, if y'all, if y'all Negro still watching

989
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: the NFL, y'all really awesome? Sell up. Well, here's the thing.

990
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: In the dark, the divine in the demonic feel the same.

991
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: How you do this right? Right? Remember Jacob was wrestling

992
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: with the angel and it said Jacob wrestled all night

993
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: long until the morning. Why did he wrestle until the morning,

994
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: Because sometimes in the dark, the devil and God feel

995
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: the same. They do the same stuff. They push you,

996
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: they irritate you, they make you mad. You don't know.

997
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: So what you think is God could be evil, and

998
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: what you think is evil could be God. Remember Joseph,

999
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: with the Code of Many Colors, said you meant it

1000
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: for evil, but God meant it for good. But at

1001
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: the moment that you're the recipient of and the object

1002
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: of derision and scorn, that stuff is awful tough to take.

1003
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: It might be God's speaking, but it sounds like the

1004
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: devil's voice you here. So all of us have to

1005
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: struggle with what God's intent is for our lives. We

1006
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: don't know until later on. Maybe now he will understand,

1007
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: but that's not for me to say. So you've got

1008
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: to understand what your gift is, what your time is,

1009
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: what your opportunity is, and that's not for us to say.

1010
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: And so again I would hesitate to say to Colin Kaepernick,

1011
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: clearly your destiny is X, Y and Z, because the

1012
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: attempt and effort that he's making and being rejected in

1013
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: public is an object lesson for somebody to look. So

1014
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: maybe God's purpose is for us to see the public

1015
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: exposure of the shenanigans, the hypocrisy, and in the incredible

1016
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: manipulations that are going on, which are just as effective

1017
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: as him occupying a slot on an NFL team and

1018
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: doing what he's gonna do. We don't know, but we can't.

1019
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: We can't impose that. All we can do is derive

1020
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: meaning and benefit and advantage from what we see going on.

1021
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: And I would never presume to tell Colin Kaepernick what

1022
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: to do with his life. I support him with whatever

1023
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: he does. I just want us to be strategic in

1024
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: our assistance to him and our core operation with him

1025
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out the best route to redemption

1026
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: in this moment, and no simple conversation about oh, you know,

1027
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: you're a sellout because you said this, and you're a

1028
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: sellout because you agree with this, and you're a sellout

1029
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: because you think he should have an alternative strategy, or

1030
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: you're a sellout because you might have some constructive criticism

1031
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: about what be being done. And if your goal is X,

1032
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: Y and Z, let me help you achieve it. That's healthy,

1033
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: that's beautiful. Now a lot of black people say, well,

1034
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: why can't we do it in public? When the last

1035
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: time you've been invited to a black meeting? What the

1036
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: hell is it? Where the hell is the black meeting?

1037
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: Is that the NAACP all Negros ain't a members of

1038
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: that is that the Urban League ain't members of That

1039
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: isn't a crackhouse everybody can't get in. So my point

1040
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: is it's a secret one a couple of weeks ago

1041
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: unless you know that I'm Yo Negro and I did

1042
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: not get invited, and we need and we need to

1043
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: have more of them. Well you know what we doin

1044
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: there ain't no black meet that's the point. They're black meetings, right.

1045
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: So the point is the mythology of the necessity for

1046
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: uniformity and unity among black people undercuts the vibrant diversity

1047
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: and the rambunctious complexity of our existence. What I mean,

1048
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: all of us ain't got to be on the same

1049
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: page and believe the same thing in order for us

1050
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: to understand that, we got to be in the communities

1051
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: that love and appreciate us and move forward, don't hate

1052
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: on nobody else. Right in the Bible, Paul said, Paul,

1053
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: and Silas and all in Timothy, Look, we got a part.

1054
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: You're on your path, I'm on mine. You don't like

1055
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: TD Jakes. Listen to Freddie Haynes. You don't like Freddy Haynes, right,

1056
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: listen to Damon Glenn fi Hunt. Come on, listen to

1057
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: mister f you don't like far Cup my brother in

1058
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: the way in which right, And let me tell you

1059
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: about Minnister fare Count. Now, mister fair hunt inboded me

1060
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: to um to his house. Right. This was years and

1061
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: years ago. I was like, well, damn, what I do?

1062
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: What I do? What I do? I said, because I

1063
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: said the first thing I said, Minnister fair Count. I

1064
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: have been very critical of you. I've been critical to

1065
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: you about what I perceived to be anti Semitic rhetoric.

1066
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: And I've been critical to you about the homophobia that

1067
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: I think is in your rhetoric. Right, I ain't gonna

1068
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: lie to him. I'm at his crib. I'm hoping this

1069
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: ain't the last time I'm gonna be saint. And he said,

1070
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: my brother, how can we love and engage each other

1071
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: if we do not in love correct each other. So

1072
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: if you share with me your particular perspective and i

1073
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: you mine, then we have the possibility of overcoming four

1074
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: hours four hours. Right, I got real differences, I got

1075
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: real critiques, but the possibility of opening up at least

1076
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: to talk about what those might mean, his critiques of me,

1077
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: my critiques of him, and together we figure out this

1078
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: ain't my community. That ain't your tribe. All your skin

1079
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: folk ain't your kin folk to me, jay Z. The

1080
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: reason I wrote this book, the reason I celebrate his

1081
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, transition from hustler on the street to hustler

1082
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: in the corporate scene, The reason I celebrate his poetic genius,

1083
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: the reason I celebrate his politics. Jay Z didn't start

1084
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: in politics when he joined What What What What? Mama Right.

1085
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: He was talking on his records all the time, but

1086
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: he was combining. He knew on his first album. Oh,

1087
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: I gave him serious revelation and prophecy, and they ain't

1088
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: feeling it like that. The same way with nas right,

1089
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: So you gotta figure out. I gotta get my message

1090
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: through in a way when the rims in the system

1091
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: may not tell him. I got to quote Biggie, but

1092
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: then I got to get in Ben Lydden Ben happening

1093
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: in Manhattan right talking about the anthrax. He said, back then,

1094
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: back when the police was out, kind of the black man.

1095
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: He's snicking that, sneaking that in to some big pimping

1096
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: because he understands that you can't give medicine straight. You

1097
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: got to get the castor or with sugar. That's right right,

1098
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: you got to give the hard lesson with honey. So

1099
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: jay Z has brilliantly fused and merged the impost toward

1100
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: poetic genius and understanding the marketplace in an unparalleled fashion.

1101
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: And so this book celebrates that genius Hove is a

1102
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: great man. Not because his poetic conventiveness and rhetorical genius

1103
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: is so remarkable that it demands repeated listening. It does.

1104
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: He is a great man because he's been willing to

1105
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: grow and evolve and to tell the truth along the way.

1106
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: My man, Michael Leric Dyson, thank you so much for that.

1107
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: That's right, does it did have a copy of the

1108
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: book already, Yes, he does. It's out right now, make

1109
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: sure you go get it. Jay Z Made in America

1110
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: by Michael Eric Dyson. Appreciate you. My brother always kills you.

1111
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: It's a breakfast clum you get you are, don't I'm

1112
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna fatten all that around your eye. This man two

1113
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: dog and blowers. Many wait with Charlemagne to make a

1114
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: judgment who was going to be on the donkey of

1115
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: the day. They chose you for the breakfast donkey of

1116
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: the day to day donkey of today. Go to a

1117
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: young woman named Ties you to Russia. Ties. It is

1118
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, and she's the great State of

1119
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: New Jersey dropping a close bumps in New Jersey. Dammit, Now,

1120
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: before we talk about Todger, let me ask y'all a

1121
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: question out there. When the last time you got stood up?

1122
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: When it's the last time you told someone you wanted

1123
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: to take them out and didn't show up? Huh? When

1124
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: is the last time you told someone to come over

1125
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: and you fell asleep on their ass? I have homeboys

1126
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: now who are not married, not in a committed relationship,

1127
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: not part of this faithful black male community, and they

1128
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: tell me stories like this all the time, especially when

1129
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: we out of time. All right, women come to the

1130
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: hotel and be downstairs in the lobby for hours because

1131
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: said individual has fallen asleep on their ass. Every time

1132
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I hear stories like this, I feel for those women

1133
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: because to me, this is a different level of disrespect. Right.

1134
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: If a man calls you over and tells you that

1135
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: he fell asleep on you, he's an eight lying because

1136
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: he was going through his phone and decided to call

1137
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: a couple of different chicks, And whoever got there first

1138
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: is who he's with. Hinch why he is not answering

1139
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: for you or b you just don't excite him like that. Okay,

1140
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: you're not falling asleep on a woman you are really

1141
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: excited to see. In fact, that adrenaline rush you get

1142
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: from seeing a being around a woman you're into. It's

1143
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: gonna wake your ass up, all right, you got a

1144
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: woman coming over, you get excited. All right, you think

1145
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some ass, So you gonna hop your

1146
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: ass in the shower, and that shower gonna wake you up.

1147
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna lotion up, throw on some basketball shorts

1148
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: in the fresh T shirt, spray some cologne on, roll

1149
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: up something smoke, paul you a glass or something, and

1150
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: waiting for the young lady you called over to arrive. Okay,

1151
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: I fell asleep. You fell asleep. How boring was your

1152
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: box that the thought of you coming over puts a

1153
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: man to sleep? All right? So yes, ladies, you should

1154
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: feel extremely disrespected when you come to see a man

1155
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: and he tells you I fell asleep. That you wouldn'teel

1156
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: disrespected to eat that happened to you. Yeah, I'd be

1157
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: annoyed that I came out of my way. Then that's

1158
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: exactly what happened to Taja and Russell? Now? According to

1159
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: the New York Daily News, Taga was the side chick

1160
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: all right, that's the New York Daily News words, not mine,

1161
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: all right. Tiger was this young man she was visiting

1162
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: side chicken. The young man told authorities that he asked

1163
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: Russell to his house for sex, but he fell asleep

1164
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: before she arrived. Disrespectful. When Tiger got to the man's house,

1165
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: she called him eight times, eight times, but he didn't

1166
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: pick up. After eight phone calls, she allegedly text the man,

1167
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: I see you want to die, followed by you wasted

1168
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: my money to come out of hire. And then around

1169
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: four am, security camera saw Maga knocking on this young

1170
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: man's door and he still didn't answer. Ladies, when this

1171
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: is over, rewind and listen to what I said about

1172
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: a man disrespecting you. The level of disrespect this young

1173
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: woman TiSER received. It's four in the morning. You got

1174
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: there and called eight times, You're knocked on his door

1175
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: and he eggetting the hell out of you not to

1176
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: mention you already his side chick. What else is there

1177
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: to do, especially after you sent him that I see

1178
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: you want to die? Texts well, you gotta attempt to

1179
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: kill him. Let's go to News twelve New Jersey to

1180
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: see how tire and Russell hands in this situation. A

1181
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: woman accused of setting a man's home on fire after

1182
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: she was invited over for a late night rendezvous. Police

1183
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: say the small twenty nine year olds Hesia Russell, went

1184
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: to the home on Barbara Avenue, North Jersey. Dot Com

1185
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: reports the man fell asleep did not answer the door.

1186
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: They say that's when Russell set the home on fire.

1187
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: The man was taken to the hospital with burns and

1188
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: smoking elation. Todger was determined to have a hot date.

1189
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: All right, Remember when I told you that if a

1190
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: man falls asleep on you before you get there, that

1191
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: means the thought of your poom poom makes them sleepy.

1192
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: You out there giving out that boring ass box. Well,

1193
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: I think Todger realized that in her mind, and she

1194
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: was not leaving that house that night without the word

1195
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: fire coming out of that man's mouth. She wanted that

1196
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: worry to be used to describe her vagina, but she

1197
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: didn't get that opportunity, so she decided to set his

1198
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: crib ablaze. Okay, I'm gonna be honest with you other

1199
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 1: than her having an arson charge and an attempted murder

1200
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: charge and being held without bail. I kind of feel him,

1201
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: all right. See, let's just be a lesson to you fools,

1202
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: all right. Stop standing women up like that after you

1203
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 1: didn't waste the their time, energy and money that comes

1204
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: see you. All right, it's disrespectful and just not right.

1205
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: But ladies, don't be like Taja. When a man doesn't

1206
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: value you, doesn't appreciate you, stands you up. Don't do

1207
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: what Tija did, even though it hurts not to react,

1208
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: all right, don't do what Taija did. Yeah, I know

1209
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: you really want to work this out, but I don't

1210
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: think this man is ever gonna change all right when

1211
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: you do, but they don't. I just think it's best

1212
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: you go your separate ways, all right. Sometimes you have

1213
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, why should I stay in this relationship

1214
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: when you're hurting, baby, you ain't happy baby. Let's there's

1215
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: just so many other things you gotta deal with, So

1216
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: I just think that you should let it burn, all right.

1217
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: Please let me remond. Give Tiger Russell the biggest he

1218
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: hall he ha he ha, he's stupid. Volume I might

1219
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: put something on our books. I might might just put

1220
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: bars eminems or something, some peanut eminems or something. My goodness,

1221
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: I feel our pain a little bit. All right, well,

1222
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: thank you for that donkey today now very literal and

1223
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: true to her words. What would get for having her hot?

1224
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: I thought at four in the morning. All right, we

1225
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: got more coming up next with a breakfast club, the

1226
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: breakfast club e j envy angela ye Charlemagne the god.

1227
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: We are the breakfast Club. We have a special guest

1228
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: in the belt, Miss Tina Lifford. Welcome, good morning, Welcome,

1229
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm blessed black and Holly favorite. How you know that's

1230
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: the truth. That's right me too. You got a book out,

1231
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: the Little Book of Lies, a little book of big lies?

1232
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: What was a big lie? Big lie is anything that

1233
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: has ever happened in your in your life that has

1234
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: left you feeling less than, not good enough or incapable.

1235
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh so, basically like the traumas that you've dealt with,

1236
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: traumas you know that teacher that said something true to you.

1237
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: Hold on to that experience of seeing something that traumatized

1238
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: you like my father did. Whatever it is that stold

1239
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: your power is a lie, that co work that talks

1240
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: about you all the time, A lies about you. Say

1241
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: it again. Now you heard me, I said that coworker

1242
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: lies about absolutely. Well, if in fact that lie actually

1243
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: steals your power, then it is a lie. If it

1244
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: doesn't steal your power, then it's just noise. Okay, Like

1245
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: people we were talking about the term by ugly when

1246
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: people say by ugly, and I've been getting that my

1247
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 1: whole life, but I didn't realize it was a bad

1248
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: term until this morning. And isn't that good? You know,

1249
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: because if you didn't internalize its power, then then it

1250
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: had no power over right. But when those events happen

1251
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: in our lives and they wind up being stuck in

1252
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: our emotional system and now they begin to shape how

1253
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: we see and experience ourselves and others, that's a lie.

1254
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: And it's a lie that we need to take our

1255
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: power back. So you've said in this book that emotional

1256
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: pain and frustration that we have that comes from these

1257
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: guys that we've been told a lot of times. When

1258
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: we have these chronic issues that we're dealing with, it's

1259
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: because something that somebody said to us has really stuck

1260
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: with us and we've internalized, we have internalized. Do you

1261
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: use that pain sometimes and you're acting. Oh my goodness, gracious, yes,

1262
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think that one of the best parts

1263
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: of being an actor is that the profession requires that

1264
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: you explore your internal experiences and be able to access them.

1265
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: And so being able to touch pain and old pain

1266
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: is what a lot of people call the method act

1267
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: method process. I don't do that. I so love the

1268
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: human condition. I so understand that we are all the

1269
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: same on the outside. We got a lot of different

1270
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: details going on, but on the inside, when it comes

1271
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: to the emotional part of us, were the exact same.

1272
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: If in fact, something hurts you, then that hurt becomes

1273
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: a part of our experience. It loops in our lives

1274
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: until we actively go in and address it. And so

1275
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: it's really easy for me to as an actress, tap

1276
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: into emotional pain because I know what it is right

1277
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: and I don't have to bring up, you know, something

1278
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: from my past. I just know if I'm living the

1279
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: life of the character in front of me, then that

1280
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: character is at an emotional place that I know. I've

1281
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: been there, We've all been there. Everybody could be an actor.

1282
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: If you can accept and relate to and own your

1283
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: emotional experience, Now you dedicated this book to your brother. YEA,

1284
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Ye what happened to your brother?

1285
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: So let's start with the fact that my brother started

1286
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: smoke can Read when he was maybe eleven years old.

1287
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: And I know this after the fact, right, But he

1288
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: died at fifty from a drug overdose, two weeks out

1289
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: of rehab. And the reason the book is dedicated to

1290
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: my brother is because he truly was one of the

1291
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: best people that I know, but he was sensitive in

1292
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: a way that wasn't good in this world, particularly when

1293
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: he also had the challenge of being of not being

1294
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: able to read. And at that time, they didn't know

1295
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: that it was dyslexic, that he was dyslexic, right, So

1296
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: you go from the early experiences of not being like

1297
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: the other kids, and then my father also could not

1298
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: read and that was not something that my father dealt

1299
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: with appropriately where my brother was concerned. So my brother

1300
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: had no rules, right, and my father was able to

1301
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: power through where my brother couldn't. And I think that

1302
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: my brother and my father, and I'll say this without

1303
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: any sense of protection, I think that my father was

1304
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: hard on my brother because he was making him ready

1305
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: for the world. But he was hard on a child

1306
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: that was more sensitive than he was, and so that

1307
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: child needed a different level of interaction and care. Oh

1308
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: that's powerful. The reason that's so powerful is because as men,

1309
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: we have issues with our father and the way they

1310
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: may have been tough on us, the way they may

1311
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: have discipline us, Because as you grow older, you realize

1312
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: it was kind of just doing the best they could.

1313
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: He was teaching based off the experiences that he'd been doing,

1314
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: what he had learned, and his limited knowledge of himself

1315
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: and his way of navigating the world right, which really,

1316
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you are projecting your way

1317
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: of navigating the world onto someone else and you're not

1318
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: taking time to actually know that person, you might very

1319
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: well be running over the very essence of another human beings. Yeah,

1320
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, trying to help them be like you, right,

1321
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: Because we always talk about kids and they'll say, oh, kids,

1322
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: they're too sensitive nowadays, But all kids have different levels

1323
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: our sensitivity. Absolutely, we all need to slow down and

1324
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: really connect with the person in front of us. And

1325
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: the reason we don't do that is that we are

1326
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 1: afraid that we don't want to challenge our own mindset

1327
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: and beliefs, and so we need everyone to agree that

1328
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: the way in which we see it is the way

1329
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: in which it is and is correct, and to challenge

1330
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: our beliefs is to put us in a place of discomfort,

1331
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: because if I don't know what I know, then how

1332
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: do I survive? How do you feel about marijuana now?

1333
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned marijuana and your brother started smoking at eleven,

1334
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: so many different states of legalizing it, but obviously for

1335
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: your brother could have been a gateway drug to something stronger.

1336
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: How do you feel about marijuana use. Marijuana was not

1337
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: my brother's gateway. Payne was his gateway. Oh right. I

1338
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: think that the challenge with any drug use, even recreational

1339
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: drug use, is that if we don't know ourselves well enough,

1340
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: then it is very easy for a substance to step

1341
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: in and help calm the disease that is inside of us,

1342
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: when what we really should be doing is finding more

1343
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: effective ways to calm that disease. Take care of yourself,

1344
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: connect with yourself, be able to be with yourself. Then

1345
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: you won't need the substances to make it okay to

1346
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: just be here. We have more of our conversation with

1347
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: author and star of Queen Sugar, Tina Lifford coming up next,

1348
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: it's the Breakfast Club wanting everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee,

1349
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: Charlomagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club now if

1350
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: you just join us. We were talking about Little Wayne's daughter,

1351
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: Yestayne Antoya Rice daughter, and she went to this cucumber

1352
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: pool party and she previously had been really not excited

1353
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: about these women doing this cucumber challenge, so people were

1354
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: getting at her for being at the party, but she said, Okay, guys,

1355
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: I want to say this. I went to the party

1356
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: to spy on wife and Lucci females. Don't act like

1357
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: you never did it. But when I heard about the

1358
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: cucumber activities, I left. To be honest, I made myself

1359
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: look like a fool for this man, and I apologize

1360
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: for allowing you guys to see it. I'm young and

1361
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: still learning. Now, have you ever spot on your man before?

1362
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 1: You have? I ever did a pop up if you

1363
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: want to call it, Yeah, you know I've done a

1364
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: pop up. I don't trying to think if I've ever

1365
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: gone to a party, but I've definitely popped up at

1366
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: his house. I did that a couple of times. One

1367
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: time I actually climbed through the window that's a real

1368
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: pop up. And that's because I knew something was going on.

1369
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: And sometimes even though we know things, we want to

1370
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: see it with our own eyes. I don't know why,

1371
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: but I guess that was really the end of it

1372
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: for me, to be able to see somebody doing something

1373
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: with my own eyes. Yeah, I've done it once to twice,

1374
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: Charlemagne always. I grew up a very insecure young man too.

1375
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: And when you are the type of person like me

1376
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: who was cheating on my woman and made me feel guilty,

1377
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: so that on top of my insecurity, I thought she

1378
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: was doing dirt when she wasn't. So, yes, I popped

1379
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 1: up at jobs. I've popped up at dorms ipped the class,

1380
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: went to apartments. I popped u the class, well, my

1381
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: motorcycle right to a class. Well, well you think she

1382
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: was doing in class? I don't know. I don't know.

1383
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: You just want to see. Maybe she passed in a note,

1384
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: Maybe she holding her hands like as a guy. As

1385
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: a guy when a guy is already doing hurt, like

1386
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: you automatically think your woman is just like you know,

1387
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: sucking everywhere. You know what I'm saying, Like, even if

1388
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: she's not like any you can go down anytime any place.

1389
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: So yes, definitely had guys pop up on me. Was

1390
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: at parties and listen, I'll leave a party if somebody

1391
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: trying to pop up on me, I slide out and

1392
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: be like, this is ridiculous. Are you pop up? Like?

1393
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: You know, like I say, like say, like, you know,

1394
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: my wife was in college. They used to be party

1395
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: in at this place called five points five pence puts.

1396
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: All the college kids used to go on Thursday night.

1397
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean, anybody could go hang out there, but that

1398
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: wasn't really my scene. But you just pop up at

1399
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: a random place, like what are you doing here? Like,

1400
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, you just just be in Charlotte Ruce while

1401
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: she in there, like why are you in Charlotte Ruce?

1402
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: Just doing a little shot? It's a clothing herself. But

1403
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: you know, you just you just pop up in random places.

1404
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: You ain't got no business being. Why are you at

1405
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: my old b g y n Oh? I don't know.

1406
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: I just say nothing, Hello, who's this? Hello? My name

1407
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: is jazz Man. How are you going? Jazzmine? Queen of

1408
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: the pop up Jasmine is way too loud to be

1409
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: popping up on somebody. No, definitely popped up on that

1410
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: as but uh, let me tell y'all. Let me tell y'all,

1411
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm really gonn pop up queen. Though, let me say

1412
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: I had a tracker on my on my every daddy

1413
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: car for like three years and he never knew it. Wow,

1414
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: he was like, damgn't like thinking that his friends had

1415
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: thrown them and everything like that. But really he had

1416
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: no idea that I was just like tracking that ass

1417
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: so all day every day. I don't know how he

1418
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: couldn't figure that out when you were just showing up

1419
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: play put a track on somebody's call. Clearly they do

1420
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: jos when you're crazy, crazy as hell, don't play with me,

1421
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: And you did that for three years. He never knew though, right,

1422
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: he never knew so listening, Like one time he went

1423
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: out to eat with this girl, like I said in

1424
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: the parking Jobs, I got him eat it everything. They

1425
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: went back to his apartment, you know what I'm saying,

1426
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: Like I'm just just following him, and he was like, okay,

1427
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: so he kee, So I just you know, I just

1428
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: walked up to the apartment, knocked on the door. They

1429
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: turned off the lights and stuff, try to hide him

1430
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: stuff and the texting the girls phone, like like he

1431
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: got five minutes to come outside on coming in that

1432
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,560
Speaker 1: thing and like they scattered up. That as crazy that

1433
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: for three years he wasn't scared enough to stop doing

1434
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: the stuff he was doing. Sharing. Yes, you ever popped

1435
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: upon an ex or man or your man? You know what? No,

1436
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: because there's something that's going on. I don't want to

1437
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: know about it. You're get in trouble when you go

1438
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: looking for trouble. But here's my story. So I found

1439
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: out that my soon to be ex husband um put

1440
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 1: his cell phone in my car. So one day on

1441
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 1: part and all of a sudden, I just hear this

1442
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: music out of the blue, and I'm like, what is that?

1443
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: So I looked at my that feat and he shoved

1444
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: his cell phone in between my back seat so he

1445
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: could track me. So he didn't have his cell phone

1446
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: on him, he just left it him. Yeah exactly. He

1447
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 1: said he had a second form dang while he had

1448
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: to charge that every day. That's why did he not

1449
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: trust you? Was there a reason or he just h

1450
01:13:53,840 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: his insecurities? M M all right exactly. DeAngelo. Oh you

1451
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: propped upon your wife? Man? Oh yeah, oh yeah, good morning,

1452
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: by the way, good morning. He's like, good morning, Cristal all,

1453
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. What you do the uh angling? Well, yeah,

1454
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: I responded to what she did. She wasn't out, and

1455
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: I didn't want her to go out, so I got

1456
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: my daughter in the truck, put my dog yet the

1457
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: truck and pulled up at the club on called her

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Speaker 1: in line. But at the thing it was, I knew

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Speaker 1: that I brought my dog with him because I felt

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Speaker 1: like I was gonna have to go into the club.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't have to go in the club, thank god.

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Speaker 1: But I got out cause a little thing in the line.

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Speaker 1: Got her in the truck and then we pulled off.

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Speaker 1: You brought your dog, can't get out of the car

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Speaker 1: and your daughter and me while I'm yelling at huh.

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Speaker 1: So you was gonna bring your dog and daughter in

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Speaker 1: the club to final Now I was gonna be the

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Speaker 1: dog and the daughter in the car while I was

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Speaker 1: in the club. How old is your daughter? Oh? She

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Speaker 1: was a baby, baby? Then the baby. So you're about

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Speaker 1: to go to jail. You're about to go to jail

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Speaker 1: because of your own into charity. I'm nice all night.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, you should the dog in the club and

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: he raps it alized it like you know, what my

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: dog go watch my daughter while I go in the

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Speaker 1: club for a second. I have the best guard dog.

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Speaker 1: I want to did it had my dog been been been?

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01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: Like you want to end war? But you know, all right, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's too much good. I ain't gonna front

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: that in a bad idea. I leave. I lead the

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Speaker 1: dog in the car with the kids of terrible this

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Speaker 1: shut up? What's the mather of the story? The mall

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 1: of the stories. Get your insecurities together, bro okay, trust me,

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Speaker 1: I've been there. I feel sorry for Reginator, but she

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Speaker 1: young though, you know what I mean, So I get it.

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Speaker 1: You know you're just happening for her. Yeah, you do

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01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that when you're young, when you have those insecurities,

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01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 1: and you know you just want to make sure somebody

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01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: doing right by you. I get it, I get it,

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Speaker 1: all right. We got more coming up next with a

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Speaker 1: breakfast Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne

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Speaker 1: the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a

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Speaker 1: special guest in the building, yep, author David Back. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me. He's one of the most trusted

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Speaker 1: financial experts in the world. Correct, okay, and a best

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Speaker 1: selling financial author, and you have a new book called

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Speaker 1: The Latte Factor. I'm just super grateful to have it.

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Speaker 1: Beyond the showman, thank you. We'll talk to us about

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Speaker 1: the Latte Factor. What are the comparisons between finances and Latti? Yeah, well,

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01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: because here's the deal. The forty four to ten Americans

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 1: right now cannot get their hands on one hundred dollars

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01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: in case of emergency. Jesus take that four out of ten.

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01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: That's better than herpes Herpey's only one in three. Jesus

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01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: take that in for a second. Wait, six out of

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01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 1: ten Americans can't get their hands on a thousand dollars

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01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: in case of emergency purposes. So seven out of ten

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: Americans living paycheck to paycheck. And what I've been teaching

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: out for almost total twenty six years is that we

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: got to break this. The way you break it, the

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01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: way you stop living paycheck to paycheck, is you realize

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Speaker 1: the small amounts of money can change your life. So

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01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: I created this concept called the Latte Factor, which is

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01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: the idea that if sad wasting five bucks a day

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01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: on a lot day, you took that five dollars a day,

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01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: you put it inside your retirement account. You paid yourself first,

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01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: you could become a millionaire. So so here's what you

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01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: needent bag. But we got this, We got this little story,

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Speaker 1: we got this metaphor in here, and got chart right,

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01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: and a little simple chart shows you that, by the way,

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Speaker 1: it takes a lifetime. Here, it takes you start in

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01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: your twenties five dollars a day. By the time forty

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Speaker 1: years later, at ten percent interests, it's worth nine hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty eight thousand dollars. Okay, now someone, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's starting in your twenties right now. There's a chart

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Speaker 1: on page one thirty four shows somebody saving more than

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Speaker 1: five dollars a day. Okay, three hundred bucks a month. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're twenty five, you saved three hundred bucks a month.

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Speaker 1: By the time you reach retirement, you got one million,

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. Now here's the problem, guys.

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: Most people do not start saving at twenty five. They

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01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 1: start saving, they start they start thinking about it at

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Speaker 1: thirty five. Do not wait to start saving money. My

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Speaker 1: grandmother helped me buy my first stock at age seven. Wow.

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Speaker 1: But you can only teach what you know. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of these parents. You can't teach finances because they

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01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: don't know finances. This though, you are absolutely right, and

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Speaker 1: I'm here to say to any parent listening right now,

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Speaker 1: this is my thirteenth book. This is the easiest book

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01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: I've ever written. And I'm out here watching the videos

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Speaker 1: of all the amazing, incredible artists who have come through here,

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01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: and a lot of them were wearing six figures in

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01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: jewelry around their neck. When you start seeing somebody wearing

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01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: six figures in jewelry on their neck and they don't

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01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: have a six figure net worth, someone's wrong. I agree.

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Speaker 1: The first thing you focus on if you're listening right

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: now and you don't have any savings is focus. I'm

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: getting a thousand dollars in savings. The take I caught

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Speaker 1: thee hundred day challenge, save ten dollars a day for

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01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: one hundred days. You're now wealthier than six out of

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: ten people in miracle. Now, what about what people that

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01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: would say? You know, that sounds great, but what else

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01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: can I do that's going to be more aggressive? I

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01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: gotta I'm gonna drop a truth on you right now.

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01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to go and try and get rich overnight?

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01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: You will stay poor forever. You do not get rich

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: in days, you get rich in decades. Yeah, but see,

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01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: a lottos are really just a tax on people that

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01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: are like praying and hoping, right Like, that's not a

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: real way to go and get rich. It's a tax

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Speaker 1: on your hope. It's a taxi optimism. I used to

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01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: say it's a tax on stupid people. But I want

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Speaker 1: everybody coming out with a gun on me. So so

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01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: here's the thing. A lot we have people putting more

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Speaker 1: money in the lottery tickets than retirement account. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: if you've got a job today, here's what I want

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01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: you to do. You have to pay yourself first. You

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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: have to get financially selfish. The formula to financial freedom

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Speaker 1: for life is saving one hour day of your income.

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Speaker 1: Whether you make minimum wager you make more the average

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Speaker 1: Americans making about twenty seven dollars an hour right now,

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Speaker 1: one hour a day of your income paid automatically into

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Speaker 1: a retirement account. You can be financially free for life.

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Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on a statement you're richer than you think.

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Speaker 1: You have to learn to think like an investor. There's

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Speaker 1: two things that make people in America wealthy. They are

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01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: real estate and stocks. If you don't own real estate

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01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 1: and you don't own stocks, you don't get into one

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01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: of these two games or both. You're not on the

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01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: escalator to building wealth. These are the things that make

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Speaker 1: people wealthier. When you own real estate, the tax laws

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01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: favor the rich. You can buy it. This is what

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: people don't realize. You can buy a home, living it

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01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: for two years, sell it, and if you're single, you

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01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: can keep a quarter of a million dollars in tax

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Speaker 1: free gains. Okay, quote a million dollar tax free. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's the only game in town where the government doesn't

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Speaker 1: tax you, no one of reasons, because the government wants

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01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: you to have homeowner wants you to own a home. Right. Now,

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Speaker 1: here's the truth. When you look at why is it

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01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,879
Speaker 1: that wealth goes from one generation to the next or doesn't.

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01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: It's real estate. So homeowners are forty six times wealthier

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Speaker 1: than renters. So some of the smartest investments for people

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: with new money to make our real estate and stop. Yeah,

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01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: and the simplest thing is to start with your four

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01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: one K plan or your IRA account and just start saving,

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01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: start investing and get yourself you know, you start some

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01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: of the simples and dex fund. You got a chapter

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Speaker 1: in your book called don't budget and make it automatic?

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Speaker 1: Can you expand on that police. Yeah, so we're all

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Speaker 1: taught to budget. Nobody really does it in the real world.

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Speaker 1: People hate it. So when I teach, is this the

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Speaker 1: way you build wealth for anything? Retirement, buying a car,

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01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: going on a dream, vocation, saving money for kids who

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01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,440
Speaker 1: are going to go to college. As you save automatically,

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01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: money's got to get moved automatically from your paycheck from

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01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: your income into these different savings accounts, or you won't

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01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: do it. If you want to know the true formula

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Speaker 1: to being able to retire in your fifties, it is

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Speaker 1: to save. I can give you the exact number right now.

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Speaker 1: It's fourteen percent of your gross income. Okay, but it's

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Speaker 1: fourteen percent of your gross syncome. How do I know

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Speaker 1: these numbers? Because Fidelity Investments run is the largest foreign

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01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 1: K planet and I think in the world. They have

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01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: sixteen million people in the US and their foreign K

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01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: plant represents twenty thousand companies. They track the amount of

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01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: people will become millionaires using their fourn K plan, and

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01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: they've saved fourteen percent of their income for thirty years

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01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: by the time they reached an average age of fifty nine,

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01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: they're a four one k million. So the only way

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01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: you're going to have money in this country is if

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01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: you take care of yourself. No one's coming to save us. Now,

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01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: you address one of the law shifts about money in

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Speaker 1: the law te fact, and it takes money to make money.

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Speaker 1: Why that's such a misconception because if you, first of all,

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Speaker 1: if you believe you've got to have a lot of

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01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: money to start investing, you'll never started defeated already. You're

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: defeated already. It is a poor mental mindset. And so

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to my grandmother. My grandmother was broke

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Speaker 1: at thirty and didn't have a college education, live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,

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01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,839
Speaker 1: and had a job in retail, a place called Gimbal's

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Speaker 1: Department store. She said, I was always getting my financial

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01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: advice from my friends, and they were all poor. She said,

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01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: don't get your financial advice from poor people. There you go.

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01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: So she went out and started taking classes at adult

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01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: schools on investing. She found somebody who was a millionaire.

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01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: Didn't know the person well, but knew the person enough

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01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: to say, I know you're well off. Funny actually, and

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01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn how to become wealthier? Would you

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01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: teach me? She actually asked for a mentor, and she

1640
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: learned over her lifetime what to do and you know,

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01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: and then pass the lessons on to our family. A

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01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 1: lot of times, what happens once you have money is

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01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: you don't actually care then if you look rich, because

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01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: you don't care what any else thinks. The weirdest thing

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01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: is that when we're not rich, we care what people think.

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01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: Once we are rich, we don't give it. You say,

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Speaker 1: big hat, no cat, big big hat, no cattle. Big

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Speaker 1: it's a Texas phrase because that's right, get the big hat.

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01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: But you got no cattle. You say, no big polk,

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01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: no scroke. So if you got a big camp, all right,

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Speaker 1: the state you for joining us, pick up his book

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01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: The lat say fact that now, and thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: sir guys, thank you for having me on your as.

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01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I don't know how we got the penises.

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01:23:54,760 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Got to

1656
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: hit the club like you hit them, hit them, get

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01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:11,839
Speaker 1: them mangles like everybody's dj N v Angela Yee, Charlomagne,

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Speaker 1: the guy we are the Breakfast Club charlomne Yes, sir

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Speaker 1: uh you got a positive note, yes, man. A positive

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01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: note is simply this man. It is always better to

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01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: ask questions than to make an assumption, because assumptions set

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Speaker 1: us up for suffering,