1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to twelve 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: by searching app Pascal. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: It was a piece of history last night, and we 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: expanded to all sports on a hump Day on The 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show. Find Carrie on x he at Carrie 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: on Fox by the way Carry. You can also find 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: me on Blue Sky. Oh Man, Yes, at Dan Byer. 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: If you would like to chime in, are you on 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: Blue Sky? Carrie? Not yet? Nineteen months in running? Carrie 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: has what do you know? I've got one notification? 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: All right? What are they saying? Dan? 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: It was actually from yesterday's show. I forgot to check in. 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: But if you want to follow me on Blue Sky 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: you can as well. Jason Stewart is here, as is 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Iowa Sam. Chris Purfettes at the news desk. We're gonna 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: get everyone involved in the midway in just a second. 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: But the midway kind of is set up by what 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: happened last night in San Francisco. And when we say 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: it was history, we don't mean that it was the 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: first time in history. But it had been a while 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: since something like this happened in a Major League Baseball game. 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: Last night in San Francisco, the Giants were trailing the 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: Phillies in the bottom of the ninth inning by a 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: score of three to one, and then this happened. 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: Patrick hits a. 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: High drive deep right center field. This one is off 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: the top of the wall and. 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: It recohetes and it's rolling on the lorning track. 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 6: Two runs around Bailey coming around third, Patrick Bailey. 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: Storess mids and inside. 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 6: The park walk off home run. 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: Now we've seen everything. 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Canby are in the Giants radio network. I know it 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: hurts Jason Stewart with the survivor pool. We were having 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: a rough week in our Major League Baseball survivor polls. Yes, 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: teams like the Phillies and the Reds and the Astros 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: just aren't coming through. But last night the Giants come 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: through get a four to three win as Patrick Bailey 44 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: had that inside the park home run. I mentioned Carrie 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: that it's not the first time that we have seen 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: this in Major League Baseball. It's the first walk off 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: inside the park home run since twenty sixteen. It's the 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: first for the Giants's they had one previously on Helbegan 49 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: had won in twenty thirteen, but Patrick Bailey became the 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: third catcher to accomplish the feat. This is where I 51 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: think it's history. Jeff Passing tweeted this last night, but 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: he was the first catcher to do so since Benny 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: Tait did so on August eleventh of nineteen twenty six 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: and prior to that, Pat Morana the Chicago Cubs, as 55 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: their catcher, had an inside the park home run August fourth, 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: nineteen oh seven. So we're talking almost one hundred and 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: twenty years of Major League baseball and this was the 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: third time that we had seen that sort of play, 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: a walk off inside the park home run accomplished by 60 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: a catcher, and it happened last night in San Francisco. 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, for a catcher to do it, it's obviously rare. 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 6: Catchers aren't known for their speed number one, so that's 63 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 6: probably thrown in the equation. But also, I mean, there's 64 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 6: really nothing better than an inside the park home run. 65 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 6: It takes you back to your childhood, right, like you're 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 6: playing in the field with your friends and you just 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 6: hit the ball far enough where nobody else can catch 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 6: it and throw you out, and you run around all 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 6: the bases and you get to throw it in their 70 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 6: faces a little bit that they couldn't get to the ball. 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 6: Like it brings back that energy for me. But as 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 6: a professional team, it almost looks like Keystone Cops. Like 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 6: the ball hits off the back of the off the wall, 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 6: and Karen's to the left and the guys running to 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 6: the right and everybody chasing the ball. 76 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: It's kind of funny. It's kind of cool to. 77 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: See on that aspect. I love it. And that's what 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: I texted Jason Stewart last night. This is why, this 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: is why Major League baseball is great, because you have 80 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: funky walls, like I love that the Astros had a 81 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: hill in center field and the flag pole they took 82 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: it out. Neither are no longer there, but the flag 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: pole was in play and there was a slight incline 84 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: in dead center field. I like the angle of what 85 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: they have in San Francisco because you get a ricochet 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: like that, and what it does is it brings into 87 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: play my thoughts of what does every player do in 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball? And Jason, I don't know if you're 89 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: alongside this, but I thought to myself, what is the 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: left fielder doing? Because in all these plays like you 91 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: have backups and this and that, so you have because 92 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: the ball was hit to the gap and right center 93 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: and so the right fielder's unable to get it. The 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: center fielder overplayed it because it hit the wall and 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: ram past him. What are you doing as a left fielder? 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: Are you doing your job? And it allowed Patrick Bailey 97 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: to have that inside the park home run? But I 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: think that's what made major league baseball unique. And I'm like, Jesus, 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: they're a lo fielder there to back him up, and 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: apparently there wasn't. 101 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: I think the I think the fundamental is that the 102 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: left fielders should be cruising over he's got literally nothing 103 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 5: else to do. Yeah, right, that's the fundamental, and he 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 5: didn't last night. 105 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 106 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 5: Did they say that the last catcher to do so 107 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 5: was Benny Tate, Yes, good old Benny Tate. What was 108 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 5: that nineteen twenty six. 109 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: Nineteen twenty six. 110 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder if he knows old Obi won Tait. 111 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: Star Wars again. Maybe maybe is Sam is this Star Wars? 112 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 7: Is this where we're get Yes, it's the old ben 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 7: kenobi obi wan hey uh. 114 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: Carrie says, it's the most exciting play that you have 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: in baseball? 116 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 8: Is it? 117 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: Is it the most exciting play that we have in 118 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: sports that brings us our midway? He's not getting. 119 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: Middle with you. 120 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: It's time for. 121 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: The midway. 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: Let's open those doors talking about exciting plays that have 123 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: in sports. Inside the park home run. I will also 124 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: say this when you have one in little league, it's 125 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: usually because there were three errors committed, right, Like, it 126 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: goes through the second baseman's legs, goes all the way 127 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: to the gap. Then the right fielder chucks it misses 128 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: the cutoff man. They try to throw at the third 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: and then it goes over the third basement's head and 130 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: the kid runs home and he tells all of his friends. 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: Yet and then seither park home run it was? It 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: was never home run. It was an E five and 133 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: E nine and e you know, or like that's that's 134 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: what it ended up being. But most exciting place you 135 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: think it's the most exciting play in baseball inside the 136 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: park home run? 137 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the most exciting. 138 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 6: I think that the next big the next closest to 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 6: that would be if you if you rob a guy 140 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 6: of a home run, you make a crazy catch at 141 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 6: the wall. 142 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: I think that's right up there with it. 143 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: Interesting. I had never thought that. 144 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: Climb that wall. You gotta climb the wall. Remember Mike. 145 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 9: That was like Mike Trout's first big moment on center 146 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 9: stage where we all knew Mic Trout's name. He went 147 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 9: flying up to rob a home run. In twenty twelve. 148 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Denzel Clark has been doing it for the A's this season. 149 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 8: Yep. 150 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: You know what I like in baseball, the triple play. 151 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: You like the triple play. 152 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: I like the triple play because everything has to go right, 153 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: or everything has to go wrong for the for the 154 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: team that gets caught in the triple play. You know, 155 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: runners down first and second, ground balled down the third baseline, 156 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: boom boom boom, and it's like, wow, triple play to 157 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: in the inning or you run into it and you 158 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: know from bad base running. Last night's was crazy like 159 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: and there isn't a normal inside the park home run. 160 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 10: No. 161 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: I would put triple play up there, at least to 162 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: the sport of baseball. I don't know if it tops 163 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: the inside of the park home run. 164 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: I think the the actual like if you if you 165 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 5: took the this whole topic or the inside of the 166 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 5: park are out of it for the past like forty 167 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 5: years or whatever. I think my answer to this question 168 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 5: has always been a triple in baseball is the most 169 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: exciting play in sports. And I'm not talking about just 170 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 5: like a triple by anybody. I'm in a triple by 171 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 5: like those like high class speedsters, like remember Dion Sanders 172 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 5: back in the day when he came in. Andrew McCutcheon 173 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 5: was like a sprinter when he came in, seeing them 174 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: hit that ball in the gap and get to third 175 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 5: and like record time. I think Elie de la Cruz 176 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 5: is the fastest runner in baseball right now. So my 177 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 5: specific exciting play in baseball it has to be a triple, 178 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 5: a pure triple into the gap by one of the 179 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 5: fastest runners in the game. I don't think he gets 180 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: any better than that, especially if you see it in person. 181 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: It's hayt. So don't get Ricky Henderson now do He's amazing. 182 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: I'm out there, He's amazing. 183 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: I would say this as well, with a triple, you're 184 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: not You're not slow out of the box. Oh you're 185 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: right there, You're gone, you know, like because like otherwise 186 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: you're not gonna get it. Like to Jason's point, like 187 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: you have to go. So it's right from the get go, 188 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: and you know that there's an opportunity and that then 189 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: puts pressure on the outfielders. 190 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, those guys who Jason is speaking and speaking of 191 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 6: right now, they know if they make contact and it 192 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 6: goes in the gap, they're sprinting out anyway. They're trying 193 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 6: and to push. There's never a single in their mind. 194 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 6: They're at least pushing for two. So I get it. 195 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 6: I'm curious that there are other baseball scenarios. I think 196 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 6: triple's great. I think the robbing of the home run. 197 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 6: This may not fit our category, but I just want 198 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 6: to bring it up. When someone is just shy of 199 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 6: whatever hit for the cycle and there's an opportunity for it. 200 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 6: Usually if it's usually triple is the one that's the 201 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 6: toughest to get. But if you need a double, triple 202 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 6: or home run and you're watching and there's an opportunity 203 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 6: for it, for that brief moment, it's pretty exciting because 204 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 6: you're like, wow, it could actually happen. Like the easiest 205 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 6: way to do it would be to have the double 206 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 6: triple at home run. Then you get up, you just 207 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 6: slap a single in the right field and have your cycle. 208 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 6: But that's not normally how it is. There is some 209 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 6: drama in trying to complete the cycle when you have 210 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 6: to get that extra base hit. Well, think about it. 211 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 6: You said the hardest thing to achieve would be the triple. 212 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 6: I would say the hardest thing in the league to 213 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 6: get is an inside the park home run. So I 214 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 6: think they're like in the same in the same breath, 215 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 6: because it takes skill to do both. But also there's 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: a little bit of luck and excitement with that extra 217 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 6: hitting off the wall and carry him to the left 218 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 6: and the team and the guy at scores, you. 219 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Know, and that's what would put it over the top 220 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: for me. I mean, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, let's 221 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: we can even expand this outside of baseball. I don't 222 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: know if you guys love it or not. I don't 223 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: know if it's the most exciting, but any end of 224 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: a quarter in the NBA game, or any end of 225 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: the half, I always watch to see the last the 226 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: keep from sixty five feet out, and it's every cameraman's 227 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: duty to get that last second shot. If it's just 228 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: a throw in to try to see if somebody makes 229 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: it from seventy eight feet, I do it. If it's 230 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: the end of the quarter, I will watch it, will 231 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: not turn away. I want to see if somebody makes 232 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: that half court shot or that three quarters court shot. 233 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: I love that in basketball. I don't know how many 234 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: great amazing plays there are in basketball, the most exciting 235 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: plays in basketball, but I love the last second shots 236 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: at the end of quarters and a halves. 237 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 5: Did you see earlier in the week the news that 238 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 5: they're not going to count those last second heaves as 239 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 5: individual misses. 240 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: On your feuderal No, don't say that. Let it just 241 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 2: changed the rule. 242 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: I was about to bring it up. 243 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 5: I was thinking, those those those very well known field 244 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 5: goal percentage champions of the past, are they gonna like, 245 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: are they gonna put asterisks on the new guys? Yeah, 246 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: but they didn't count. They counted the heaves for when 247 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 5: I played. 248 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: Exactly. 249 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: Barkley and Shaq will be complaining about it at their 250 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: new home ESPNR. That's it's terrible. I here's the other 251 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: aspect of it. It's just as good when it hits 252 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: the shot clock as it is going in, Like when 253 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: it's so far off, like not even close. That's even 254 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: just funny to me to think, like, really, that's how 255 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: far you felt that you needed to throw it, So 256 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: what hits the thing that's twenty five feet above the 257 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: actual hoop itself? I like that in basket. 258 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: You like that in basketball? What about your guys? Nobody 259 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: likes the hail mary at all. 260 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 9: I was gonna say, I've been sitting here racking my 261 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 9: brain on the best play, the best play, what it 262 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 9: would be. 263 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: In football? 264 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 9: The hail mary is great, don't get me wrong, But 265 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 9: I think the most exciting plays, and it's funny because 266 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 9: I keep seeing people wanting to kill these off. They 267 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 9: all happen on special teams because either it's a punt 268 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 9: for it's either a kickoff return for a touchdown. I 269 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 9: think one of my favorite plays all time was like 270 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 9: the kick six, which is a you know, a missed 271 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 9: field goal getting returned for a touchdown. But I think 272 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 9: I've found one, and I have a specific one in mind, 273 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 9: and it is a blocked punt where the ball is 274 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 9: returned for a touchdown in case we have all forgotten 275 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 9: thanks to ESPN. 276 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: WHOA he has trouble with a. 277 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 9: Strap and the ball is free hits picked up by 278 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 9: Michigan stakes Una. 279 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 7: I know you want Sean McDonough love it. 280 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 9: His voice cracking, But that's fun you get when because 281 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 9: usually it is. It's such a hard thing, right to 282 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 9: set up for a field goal, to set up for 283 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 9: a punt. You're under so much pressure just to do 284 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 9: this one thing, this one thing, and it takes one 285 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 9: guy jumping off the sleds to blow who can blow 286 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 9: it up? Not just blow it up, but then he 287 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 9: takes it the other way for six points. That is 288 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 9: I'm out of my chit. I love about the blocked punt. 289 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 9: You know, it's not necessarily the touchdown portion of it, 290 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 9: but it's the pomp of the block that you hear 291 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 9: from theob Oh. Yeah, you are taking a heavy hit 292 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 9: with that can I uh So. 293 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 7: It was an Iowa at Penn State two thousand and 294 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 7: nine and they had one of those aerial cameras over 295 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 7: a routine special teams play and Iowa's giant defensive end 296 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 7: Adrian Claiborne. They like follow him as a bird's eye view, 297 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 7: he blocks it himself, gets it on the bounce and 298 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 7: takes it. 299 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: For a blocked punt for us. 300 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the other thing. 301 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 9: A lot of these guys who are out there, who 302 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 9: are out there to block a punt or to block 303 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 9: a field goal, they are famously not usually they're just 304 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 9: big guys too. They're not being put out there to 305 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 9: be hyper athletic. They're out there to block something with 306 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 9: the mass their body. And if they grab that and 307 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 9: take it the other way, yeah, watch out. 308 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: If you have a blocked field goal. There's also the 309 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: possibility of the lateral to the faster guy. Yes, yeah, 310 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: you know, that adds something to it, but I think 311 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: like the punt is way more, you know, way more rare, hey, Dan, 312 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: than that. 313 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 7: Yes, we were, me and Jason were talking about this 314 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 7: and we actually found a very old clip in the system. 315 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: Maybe you'd like to hear it. 316 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 8: Well, Hire's date. Well, they have Brian Hartline and racemall 317 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 8: back to way Jake Kilroy's punt. He is a softbour 318 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 8: from Millersburg, Ohio on the game and he's averaging thirty 319 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 8: eight point two on the season. Gets this punt off 320 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 8: from his thirty seven hangs a nice high one. That 321 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 8: heartline will make a catch at the tenable higher state, 322 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 8: moving backwards to a sixth now turns it right side 323 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 8: to the ten fifteen heartland of the twenty twenty five 324 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 8: thirty thirty five herd line down the right sideline, middle 325 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 8: of meal fifty forty thirty prime heart line behind another blocker, 326 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 8: fifteen ten five touchdown, Bryan heart line. 327 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 10: That hot cut heart It's just it so beautiful punt return. 328 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 10: This is this is what I like about football things 329 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 10: all the time. It's the countdown forty fifty, forty thirty ten. 330 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: My buddy once said, to the forty to the fifty 331 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: fifty five, you could. 332 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: Fifty. 333 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: He told me that because you wouldn't believe what I 334 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: did tonight he's on the eighty five. 335 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 5: Oh hey, Kerry, have you ever returned a punt for 336 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 5: a kick at any level? 337 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? A punt for a touchdown. 338 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be exhilarating. 339 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. And when I was nine, Oh that didn't count? 340 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: Did it? Did it count? 341 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 5: Sure? 342 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 6: Levels that I also bought a punt against Army with 343 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 6: my head, which wasn't was fun at all. I got 344 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 6: there so fast that I extended my hands out and 345 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 6: missed the ball and he kicked my head. 346 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm not even joking, Like I was out like a light. 347 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 6: You got the The ball didn't go far, so I 348 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 6: was good, but I was out the rest of that 349 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 6: game for sure. 350 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to YouTube Carrier Roads kicked in the head, 351 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: watched arm Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Football, You're right, 352 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: I think Christy, it's a good point. I would say 353 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: that the non special teams, there is something about a safety. 354 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: It's a little different. It's not more exciting than an 355 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: inside the park home run or a triple or that. 356 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: But I do like there is the safety because there 357 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: is anticipation. You're backed up, there's something you know, there's 358 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: pressure going on. You get the quarterback, there is a 359 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: built up anticipation. You're submitting your opponent too. Yeah, sort 360 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: of like pushing them. 361 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 7: It's like a wrestling move, like you're pushing them out 362 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 7: of the ring or you're getting them into a pin 363 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 7: and then they're stuck in the end zone. Then they 364 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 7: have to give you two points or you get two 365 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 7: points out of it, and it's give you the ball 366 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 7: back like a hole in one. 367 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: Like if you have a hole in one when you're 368 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: playing at the Waste Management Open in Phoenix on the 369 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: sixteenth hole, like it's it's absolutely berserk. 370 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very specific. 371 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: Well, just because you have the crowd around you, which 372 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: leads up to the point is I've never had a 373 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: hole in one in golf in my life. I saw 374 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 2: one a couple of years ago there was a USGA 375 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: Girls event at bel Air Country Club and it was 376 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: the first time I'd ever seen it. I'd never been 377 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: in a group when someone had made a hole in 378 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: one in our group, and it was it was a 379 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: bit of like shock. But when there were only like 380 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: fifteen people around and the person that did it was 381 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty yards away that they don't necessarily know, 382 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: it was really really cool. It was really really neat 383 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: to see. But it didn't happen to me, and there 384 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: wasn't like that again, there wasn't like there weren't like 385 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: five thousand fans around to go crazy. It was I 386 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 2: don't want to say it didn't live up to the excitement, 387 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: because it was still very cool to see. Anytime that 388 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: a ball goes in, you're like, WHOA, RhoA, But it 389 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: was it was a different feat and. 390 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 6: It was only fifteen people there, so who's to say 391 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: you didn't do it. I'm just saying I was watching. 392 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 6: I was watching. I was there as a as a 393 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 6: media member. 394 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: The funny thing was is I was just taking video 395 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: of like the course and the pictures and stuff. I 396 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: recorded the shot before that just for my own like 397 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: records to and I didn't record the next person who 398 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: went up and had a hole in one. It was 399 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: still really really cool, but it was just a different 400 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: feeling than what I thought. I was saying, did you 401 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: guys growing up? 402 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 7: Like in our local newspaper, there would be little blurbs 403 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 7: of like, yes, John Anderson was that brown Deer golf 404 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 7: course and he witnessed Elliott to Yes, you know Elliott 405 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 7: Smith or I don't know, some get a hole in 406 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 7: one and you had to have like a witness, And 407 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 7: then it was in the paper. 408 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: Yes I do. And you do have to have a witness. 409 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: You have to have somebody playing with you. Now just 410 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: being on your phone and being like I'm playing up 411 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: by myself. I think I got a hole in one, 412 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: just doesn't doesn't necessarily got it. You need that witness. 413 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: Then you also have to buy drinks for someone and 414 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: there are a lot of other sports different you know, 415 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: things that that can happen in an instance, and I 416 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: bring up the hole in one with the specifics of 417 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: what that is, but you could have the inside the 418 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: park home run at any ballpark. Yeah, that there is 419 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: any more that we're leaving on the table. 420 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 5: I thought of something, so I don't think we could 421 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 5: have done this one even ten years ago. This is 422 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 5: it seems like I could say modern day phenomenon. I 423 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: think with analytics and everything, but like the pull up 424 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: on a fast break logo three in basketball, that does 425 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 5: something for me, Like I like, I don't know what 426 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 5: that is, especially if it's Kaitlyn Clark or in a 427 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 5: big moment, like it's just I guess because you grow up. 428 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 5: You know, I'm fifty two years old. You grew up. 429 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 5: You're like, oh, that's a horrible shot. Yeah yeah, but 430 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 5: now it's more than acceptable. And then when it goes in, 431 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: you're like, heck, yeah, that's awesome. 432 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that there absolutely is a rush to that. 433 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 7: I'm also a fast break of the I'm also a 434 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 7: fan of the fast break alleue. I think that can 435 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 7: just get the crowd. Someone mentioned that already I'm sorry, 436 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 7: but that can get really get the crowd going, just 437 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 7: like heaving it down there, and Caitlyn Clark does that too, 438 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 7: and then someone just breakaway. 439 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: In hockey like a penalty shot in hockey. I think 440 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: that you know, the anticipation, that build up of it, 441 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: and what you have is, you know, breakaway in soccer 442 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: the same deal. 443 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: It's crazy, nocker. 444 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 6: Has some no one said the game when shot like, 445 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 6: it's the shot clocks winding down and you take the 446 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 6: last shot and win it at the buzzer. 447 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 3: That doesn't what's the old what's the old tweet? How's 448 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: the house? 449 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 8: It go? 450 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: Like? 451 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 9: Why watch overtime playoff hockey when you could just simply 452 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 9: snort cocaine and ride a motorcycle out of an out 453 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 9: of a helicopter exactly? 454 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: Well, one of those guys was off for a goalf 455 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: for like Game seven. 456 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: It's like, wow, is every single possession it sounds like 457 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: a rush, Yes, sounds like a rush. Yes. I still 458 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: like the seventy five footer. You know, you like the heat, 459 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: you know, launch it even if it doesn't count. I 460 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: don't care. 461 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 6: It went in man like it is babies and old 462 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 6: women getting hurt by those things that those gonna be 463 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 6: some grenades coming. 464 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: Over there over the uh there. It is good midway 465 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: today here in Fox's Radio. 466 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 4: Good job, so midwad. Fox Sports Radio has the best 467 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 468 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 4: shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 469 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: Search FSR to listen live. 470 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: Doug gollib Show at Fox Sports Radio. 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Chris Purfett will give us an update from 479 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: the news desk in about eight minutes or so of 480 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: what's happening in day baseball and what happened at Wimbledon. 481 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: Earlier today, we were just talking about the Giants in 482 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: a good way, considering what they did last night to 483 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: the Phillies and having the walkoff inside the park home run. 484 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: There's another side of what the Giants are dealing with. 485 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: They were in the news earlier this season after acquiring 486 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: a disgruntled Rafael Devers from the Boston Red Sox and 487 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: hoping that everything a change of scenery, everything was going 488 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: to be AOKA. That wasn't necessarily the case, as we 489 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: are now coming to find out in San Francisco. Even 490 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: though Rafael Devers when he was introduced, said through his 491 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: interpreter that he's willing to do whatever he wants or 492 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: can do to help the Giants play whatever position. Kind 493 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: of came to a shock to Red Sox fans. Red 494 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: Sox fans probably weren't shocked when they heard Will Clark 495 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: explain the most recent situation with Rafael Devers on the 496 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: Deuces Wild podcast that he hosts with Eric Burns. Here's 497 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: Will Clark talking about what was supposed to happen as 498 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: let's you say, Rafael Devers was supposed to get some 499 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: tips from Will Clark Friday. 500 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 11: Saturday Sunday. He did not come out early at all, period, 501 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 11: not at all. Matter of fact, he didn't even hit 502 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 11: on the field. But Rafael Devers. The next time I'm 503 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 11: in San Francisco, you're asked, will be on the field 504 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 11: at first base, Just letting you know that, even if 505 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 11: I got to go grab you but back of the 506 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 11: neck and drag your ass out there, you will. 507 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: Be at first base. So Red Sons fans hear that 508 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: and go, yes, thank you. This is the Raphael Devors 509 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: that we know as a former athlete, how do you 510 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: take that of Devers not wanting to learn the first 511 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: base craft from one of the greats of the game 512 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: in Will Clark? 513 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 6: It's it just reeks of selfishment, I mean selfishness and entitledments, right, Like, 514 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 6: as a professional athlete, yes, you have your skill set, 515 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 6: you have your trade that you're probably called up to 516 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 6: the Big leagues or any professional sports league you know 517 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 6: to do. That's your job. We get it, You've done 518 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 6: it forever. But the other part of being a professional 519 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 6: is adaptability, being able to be ready to do whatever 520 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 6: is needed for your team to win. You think everybody 521 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 6: was everybody that's played professional has been happy with being 522 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 6: asked to move from from corner to safety, or from 523 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 6: quarterback to safety, or whatever the position change entails. No, 524 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 6: like everybody has an ego, and it's healthy to have that. 525 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 6: But if you're truly a team player and somebody that's 526 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 6: doing something for the greater good, out the greater good 527 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 6: of your team, outside of your own selfish thoughts, you 528 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 6: will be eager to do whatever it takes to win. 529 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 6: Plus you're not being taken off the field, you're being 530 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 6: moved to another position that still helps the team win. 531 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 6: So for me, it's just it just reeks up entitlement 532 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 6: and selfishness. And I hate it for players like this 533 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 6: because later on, when it's ten years down the line 534 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 6: or you're out of the sport and you're looking at 535 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 6: how you could have maximized yourself and maximize your potential 536 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 6: and even maximize your earnings. To put yourself in a 537 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 6: situation to go through something like this and hurt yourself 538 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 6: in the immediacy of right now. It sucks because as 539 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 6: a pro being removed from it and seeing like some 540 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 6: things that I made mistakes at right you would you 541 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 6: would wish that there was somebody in these guys' ears 542 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 6: giving them, giving them the right advice on how to 543 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 6: how to handle these moments right now, who took. 544 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 2: You under their wing when you were in the NFL 545 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: are coming into the NFL. 546 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Curtis Martin right away, like Curtis my favorite Martin 547 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 6: in New York. 548 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 10: Uh. 549 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 3: You know, I came in like I. 550 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 6: Said, it was it felt easy easy to me, and 551 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 6: like rookie camps and like the mini camps and stuff 552 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 6: like that, where I was like, oh, I can do 553 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 6: I can do this. I was meant to be a 554 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 6: pro blah blah blah. And you kind of walk in 555 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 6: with that type of energy and then you have the 556 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 6: real guys come in, the vets who have done it 557 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 6: for a long time, and you feel how it's different immediately, 558 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 6: and you find yourself wanting to Okay, all right, yes 559 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 6: I have the athletic ability, but now I want to 560 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 6: I want to really learn how it is to be 561 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 6: a pro and to be really good at the craft. 562 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 6: And then you find a guy like Curtis Martin, and 563 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 6: you know, there's nothing bad said about the guy from 564 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 6: anybody that I know. You want to be around guys 565 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 6: like that, and so for me it was it was 566 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 6: a Curtis Martin. So, Curtis Martin is your teammate in 567 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 6: New York. No, Will Clark isn't a teammate of Raphael Devers, 568 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 6: and I hated Will Clark when I was a kid. 569 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 6: I don't know unless you are a San Francisco Giant fan. 570 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: I listen, I was. I like the Astros and Brewers 571 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: when I was a kid. You know, Brewers home Down team. 572 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: Astros were at that time in a different well they 573 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: are right now in a different league. They both have 574 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: switched leagues. But I couldn't stand Will Clark. I can't 575 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: imagine what it was like being a Dodger fan and 576 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 2: watching Will Clark play. But that's where I'm offended with 577 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: all of you hated Will Clark to Jason Stewart, I 578 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: imagine quite the opposite. 579 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: It's a real It's a weird one for me. So 580 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 5: here's my personal story with Will Clark. I taught myself 581 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 5: how to switchheit, and my left handed swing emulates Will Clark. 582 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 5: I've watched hours and hours of tape of him. The 583 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: way he swings the bat maybe the most beautiful thing 584 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 5: in baseball ever. So yeah, no, I had to reconcile 585 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 5: that with him being a Giant, but him as an individual. 586 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 5: That's why this story, maybe it pisses me off a 587 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: little bit more that he stood up a guy that 588 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: I remember looking up to so much. 589 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: And that's where I was going to the place of 590 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: Will Clark's not his teammate, Like Rafael Devers is going 591 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: to be probably the guy in the clubhouse. He wasn't. 592 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: He's not just a rookie being called up right, so 593 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: he feels that he's the guy. But you go to 594 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: a new team and you disrespect a legend within that team. Now, 595 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: I may not be to the level of Willie Mays 596 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: and Barry Bonds and Willie McCovey, but he is a 597 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: darn good player and a name that was represented with, 598 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: you know, in line with the San Francisco Giants. The 599 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants when I was growing up were Will 600 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: Clark and Jeffrey Leonard. Like that's the Giants that I remember, 601 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: at least, you know, in the late eighties in them 602 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: coming up. And so to have him disrespect Will Clark 603 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 2: a member of the Giants family and do it on 604 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: three separate occasions Friday, I'm giving a huge benefit of 605 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: the doubt to be like, you know, it's different, blah 606 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: blah blah, this happening. You know, I'll be able to 607 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: your Saturday and Sunday but to not do it for 608 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: three straight games. Yeah, completely disrespectful, and and and Boston 609 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: right now seemingly having the last laugh. And now you 610 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: look back at all the conversations of how did the 611 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: how did the Red Sox deal Rafael Devers? And how 612 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: did nobody else know about this? And how why wasn't 613 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: there a bidding market from it? Like this may have 614 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: been another reflection why of the Red Sox just couldn't 615 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: wait to get him out of town because of stuff 616 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: like this? 617 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean just for that instance alone, with 618 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 6: the Will Clark situation, I mean, Raphael Devers doesn't have 619 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 6: to do that, so it's not also a something that's 620 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 6: mandatory that he has to do. Obviously, Will Clark wants to, 621 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 6: you know, give some assistance, help him out. You probably 622 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 6: give him some pointers and do the whole deal. And 623 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 6: you know, graciously you think that Devers would be on 624 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 6: board with that. 625 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: But this isn't something that he has to do. 626 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 6: So this individual story doesn't irk me as much as 627 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 6: me seeing it from the outside and as a player, 628 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 6: knowing that all these instances add up and people do 629 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 6: keep count. 630 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: Just show up. Yeah, you know, it's it's all you 631 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: had to do, Like maybe we could have heard stuff 632 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: like you know, Will Clark didn't like his attitude, or 633 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: Rafael Devers didn't necessarily care. It's a whole completely different 634 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: thing than to just blow him off like he did 635 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: for three straight days. 636 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: Jason Carry, You're right, Like the entitlement also comes with 637 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 5: this too, Right, Yeah, he's in the midst of a 638 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 5: three hundred and thirteen million dollar contract, right, giants are 639 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 5: on their hook for two hundred and fifty million, And 640 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 5: like it speaks to that whole thing of like you 641 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 5: got to know who you're giving money to. Yes, because 642 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 5: he's he's not He's taken that attitude and now he's 643 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 5: empowered with the contract. So he pulled that maneuver in 644 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 5: red with the Red Sox. It was totally selfish that 645 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 5: they traded him away, Right, And then he gets to 646 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 5: the he's in the honeymoon phase and he's pulling the 647 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 5: same thing. And it also speaks to he doesn't have 648 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 5: the self awareness to know his limitations, like the reason 649 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: why they said we don't want you to play third 650 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 5: base anymore because we have somebody better. Right, you know, 651 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 5: your limitations as a player, you need to be aware of, 652 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 5: especially with this contract. So there's so much to this 653 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: that I'm thinking the other twenty follower guys in that 654 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 5: in that clubhouse have got to be like, what the 655 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: hell does this guy's deal? 656 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: Exactly? 657 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: I had a buddy who shall rename nameless, very very 658 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 2: short marriage, like we're gonna say it didn't last two months. 659 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: And so like when he allows me that it's not working, 660 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, I was just at your wedding, 661 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: Like what are you talking about? You know these weeks later, 662 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: right all right? And when did you When did you realize? 663 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: And he goes he goes on the honeymoon like like 664 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: it's like it started like right there, like right after 665 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: the wedding, like he felt that she became a different person. 666 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: Whether he was at fault, she was at fault, one 667 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: of the case was. But he said his first first 668 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: like thing was at the honeymoon. And so I'm like, wow, 669 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: even at the honeymoon, that happened. So that honeymoon phase 670 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: is what you uh, yeah, wow, that happens. Life comes 671 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: at you fast. 672 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: It does, it does. 673 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 6: And then when you get and when you when you're 674 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 6: when you're out of that situation and you have you 675 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 6: don't have the roll with colored glasses on anymore, and 676 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 6: you get to look at some of the mistakes and 677 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 6: choices you made as a as a human, then yeah, 678 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 6: you'll you'll you'll look back and say, I probably wish 679 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 6: I would have done something different the Red Sox. 680 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: Do not trade her to my buddy. That could have also, 681 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: I thought that next you should have vetted her with 682 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: her previous exes. 683 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 684 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show week days at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 685 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: Doug gotlib Show a Fox Sports Radio. He's Carry Rhodes, 686 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Buyer, Jason Stewart Iowa Sam helping out today 687 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: as is Chris Prefett. Doug will be back tomorrow. Was 688 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: in for the Herd earlier Today. Let's go to the 689 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: news desk where Chris Prefett has the press, the price, 690 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: headlines of the day, and so much more. What's going on? 691 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 9: Chris Hey, Dan Hey, Carrie so Deon Sanders is back 692 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 9: at Big twelve media days after something of a health 693 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 9: scare that he recently went through. Naturally, being back in 694 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 9: the spotlight and being the big issues swirling around the 695 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 9: college ranks, it remains NIL and the possibility of guardrails 696 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 9: and regulations. He was clearly asked about it. Here's what 697 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 9: he had to say. 698 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 10: How do you believe NIL should be guardrailed now? 699 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: Especially with the revenue sharing era? 700 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 12: I wish it was a cat, you know, like the 701 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 12: top of the line player makes this, and if you're 702 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 12: not that type of guy, you know you're not gonna 703 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 12: make that. 704 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: That's what the NFL does. 705 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 12: So the problem is you got a guy that's not 706 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 12: that darn good, but he could go to another school 707 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 12: and they give him a half a million dollars and 708 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 12: you can you can't compete with that. 709 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: That don't make sense. 710 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 12: And you're talking about equality, not equality like equal I 711 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 12: think to equality. And all you have to do is 712 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 12: look at the playoffs and see what those teams spent. 713 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 12: And you understand during the white end the playoffs, it's 714 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 12: kind of hard to compete with somebody who's giving twenty 715 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 12: five thirty million dollars of during freshman class, right it is. 716 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 12: It's crazy. We're not complaining because all these coaches are here. 717 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 12: In a coach at butts often given the right opportunity 718 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 12: with the right players and play here and there you'll 719 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 12: be there, but it's what's going on right now don't 720 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 12: make sense. 721 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: Dianne Sanders. I understand that portion of it, and I 722 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: think there has to be a cap somewhere, but I don't. 723 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: I don't know how. 724 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: The way he explained it was like a tiering of players, 725 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 2: and I just don't. I'd almost rather have somebody overpay 726 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 2: for a kid that isn't as good. You know that 727 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: was in my conference. 728 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 6: Now, that's the point I was going to Dan, So, 729 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 6: I mean, yes, the guardrails need to be there, they 730 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 6: need to figure that out. But if he's not that good, 731 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. So why you're worry about who pays him? 732 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 733 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: The other portion of this is what Dion says is 734 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 2: something that Doug says a lot here is just when 735 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna see the Final four and you're gonna see 736 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: college football playoffs, it's whoever spends the most that you're 737 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: going to see. That's what Dion shares the opinion of. 738 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: I do there needs to be some sort of cap 739 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: at some point, And I think Brett you or Mark 740 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: yesterday and talking about the model he's saying right now, 741 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: it doesn't look like this model is good for us. 742 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: But if we went with the five plus eleven, it 743 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: would be good later on. I think he's expecting bigger 744 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: nil proceeds going to their schools and their conference, maybe 745 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 2: even the Texas school schools. We see Texas Tech stepping 746 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: up in a lot of ways. Maybe they're on the 747 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: rise as a potential program. But I think he's just 748 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: worried about the Ohio States and the Alabamas and the others, 749 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: you know, completely getting out of hand, all. 750 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: Right, guys. 751 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 9: Major League Baseball announced today that they will be using 752 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 9: the Automated Balls and Strike System in the All Star 753 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 9: Game here in Atlanta. They had tried it out in 754 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 9: spring training and seventy two percent of fans that they 755 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 9: had pulled said it was improvement. But I know from 756 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 9: reading that players are a little more mixed, so some 757 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 9: of them like having the human umpire elements to that game, 758 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 9: the idea of framing a pitch. So but either way, 759 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 9: it seems like we are an expertly heading towards this 760 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 9: ABS system. And I'll just say this, once that's out 761 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 9: of the camp, once that's out of the bottle, it 762 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 9: stays out of the bottle. 763 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: It's kind of hard to put it back. 764 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, I think college football perfect segue 765 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: to baseball. College football wants humans to decide the polls 766 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: and the rankings, and then they don't like it, so 767 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: they're like, let's go to computers. Then the computers spit 768 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: on a number. They don't like it, Like, let's just 769 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: get people who watch football, Let's get people who know football. 770 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: I think if you went to an ABS system, I 771 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 2: think at some point there would inevitably be the fallback 772 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: to let's just get real people. There is too this 773 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: is too borderline. It's that's what I think would ultimately 774 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: happen with this. What I do like about this is 775 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, let's just crap on the umpires during 776 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: the All Star Game. Let's show how bad they are. 777 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: It's a showcase of the players, but it's also a 778 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: showcase to show how bad our umpiring has been, especially 779 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: behind the plate this season. 780 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, the human sub activity to it all is I 781 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 6: think the endearing part of sports in general, right, Like, 782 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 6: humans mess up, Like if you have this thing that's 783 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 6: supposed to be one hundred percent correct, then it's just 784 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 6: it kind of dulls it out for me. So I 785 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 6: would miss the human part of it. 786 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 9: As a soccer fan the var side of things. Uh again, 787 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 9: once you once you, once the geniees out of the bottle, 788 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 9: there's no going back, and you'll find yourself stimmied by 789 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 9: stuff that's just on the line. 790 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: I want to give Jason Stewart, Jason, do you want 791 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 2: to I know you're always vocal about ABS the All 792 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: Star Game, for it, against it. 793 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 5: No, I'm definitely for ABS, and they should have done 794 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 5: it like two years ago. Okay, they've had this slow, 795 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 5: weird rollout where they did it in spring training and 796 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 5: now they're going to do it in an exhibition game. 797 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 5: So you're telling me that your brightest stars are going 798 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 5: to look like a holes if they challenge a ball 799 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 5: striking an exhibition game to make your umpire look bad? 800 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 5: Like who wins in this decision? Like why why put 801 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 5: it out in an All Star Game? 802 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: Imagine imagine getting them not I will get the honor 803 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 2: of being the homeplate umpire at the All Star Game 804 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 2: for the world to see, and they can see how 805 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: bad I am at my job and see I mean, 806 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: I think Nico Horner's taunting that he got tossed for 807 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: when he tapped the top of his helmet, which would 808 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 2: instigate a review earlier this year. One of the greatest 809 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: taunts that we had seen in Major League basic. 810 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 6: You know how scard I am. And when you said Nico, 811 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 6: I thought Nico Harrison too. The Meraficks, I thought he 812 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 6: did well. 813 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: Man Suppress, great job, Chris Perfepress and Iowa Sham. 814 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:32,959 Speaker 3: Carrie. 815 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: It's been fun and we're gonna sell you that next 816 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: week as well. Here on Fox Sports Radio. It's the 817 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.