WEBVTT - A GECK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.400 Hi, is this Katie? 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:01.920 Oh? 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:02.320 My god? 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.800 Is this low it is? How are you? Katie? 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.719 I'm about to ship my pants because so it's not it. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.080 Oh, I'm excited to talk to you too. What's going 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:15.760 on with you? Man? 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:22.800 I was actually just eating some ramen and watching your stream. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.200 You were eating some ramen and watching my stream? That 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.800 sounds nice. I haven't eaten ramen in a while. I 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.920 know it's high in salt contents, but I'm not going 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.240 to sit here and pretend like I give any half 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.400 of a shit about what I put into my body. Uh, Katie, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.279 how can I get you today? 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.199 My father in law thinks that the family runs a 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.320 prostitution ring, which is not true at all. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.040 Your father in law believes that your family runs a 0:00:58.080 --> 0:00:59.200 prostitution ring. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.840 Uh yeah. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:04.800 Why does he think that? 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.920 Well, he has been well. I don't know if he's 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.800 currently on drugs, but he's been on drugs since my 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:19.920 husband was an infant, and I think mentally he's not 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:20.720 very well. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.600 So you think that he is there any sort of 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.720 maybe a misunderstanding of things that he's observing within your 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.440 family that is causing him to believe this. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.000 I don't think so. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.040 Because he thinks that we have millions of dollars, but currently, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:52.639 like I live in a trailer, so there's no way 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.560 that we're consuming that much money. 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:01.640 So what is your relationship like with your father in law? 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:06.960 Otherwise we don't talk to him. I haven't talked to 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.480 him since we got married. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.440 Actually, really, what was it like when you were talking 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:13.120 about Yeah. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:22.600 That was very interesting. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.800 He is just very hard to talk to. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:32.280 He likes to make up stories in his mind about 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.600 things that aren't true at all, And I honestly believe 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.800 he's a narcissist because he doesn't take any other person 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:41.600 to concern. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.800 So this whole thing about your family running a prostitution 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.799 ring is not the only thing that he has made 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:53.960 up in his mind. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.760 No, definitely not. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:04.320 Other stories and whatnot has he fabricated. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:14.880 Well, he said that my husband's friends when my husband 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:20.000 was a teenager, so he was sixteen, seventeen years old, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:29.000 his friends were sleeping with his own mother, and which 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.960 wasn't true at all, and his little brother, who was 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:37.400 fourteen at the time, was actively watching them sleep with 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.520 his mother, and. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.200 That that's what began the prostitution ring. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.880 So your father in law believes that about himself that 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.960 when he was younger, his friends used to sleep with 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:51.400 his mother. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.160 No, no, no, no no. My father in law believes 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:03.040 that his own son's friends were sleep being with my 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:04.200 current husband. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:09.800 Yes, okay, you're okay, guys, I'm getting the family tree down. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:14.040 So your father in law believes that your husband, his son, 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:20.200 that his friends slept with his mother, your father in 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.400 law's wife. 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:23.120 Yes. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:29.000 Interesting, And he believes that this was happening a while ago, 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:30.400 or that this is happening currently. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.040 This happened a while ago, but now he thinks that 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.359 it has progressed to a whole prostitution ring across two 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.599 different states because we live right on the North Carolina 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.279 and Tennessee state line. He's actually went to the state 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.640 Bureau of States and they told him that he needed 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.480 to get off drugs and there was no proof whatsoever. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:00.719 He's actually taken laptops, uh, cell phones and other things 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.880 to the police stations and they've investigated and found no 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.560 proof whatsoever and just told him that he needed to 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:08.360 seek help. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.359 What kinds of things is he presenting his evidence on 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:17.599 these laptops? Like, what is he saying is evidence that 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:18.480 really is nothing? 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.560 He says that they have been hacked, which I believe 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:30.960 he's just locked himself out of the account and can't 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.480 get back in, so he thinks that. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.680 He's hacked, but I don't actually know. He's just not 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.280 mentally well at all. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:43.520 Well, okay, so these accounts like, so your father in 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.880 law goes to the police station, shows them that he 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.640 can't log into his Facebook and goes this is evidence 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.000 of a prostitution ring. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:56.200 Exactly. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.800 I would also respond with, sir, you need to lay 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:07.640 off the drugs. That's how I would respond, exactly. What Okay, 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.400 what is it? What about the mother in law? What's 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.880 going on with her? 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.960 Well, she's currently trying to get a divorce from him. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.040 I'm not really sure because he has been back currently 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:26.360 and tried to steal things from our previous property that 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.719 we were renting from. We don't live there currently, but 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.600 he tried to steal things from the people that live 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:33.320 there currently. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.520 Divorce your father in law? Okay, I'm sorry, I interrupted. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:40.520 She tries to defend. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:45.279 Him, She is trying to divorce him, but she also 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:46.920 defends him at the same time. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:50.680 What does she say in her defense of. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:56.440 Him that he's not mentally well and that he doesn't 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:57.640 mean any harm? 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.159 Mm and uh, what about your mother? And I she 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.840 sort of mentally okay. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.320 I think she's just been abused a little bit by him. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.040 I think she's okay, she just needs some time. 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:22.520 Oh you think that she's been abused by him. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.080 Not physically but mentally. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:29.040 Yeah, okay, And she's okay. She doesn't feed into or 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.440 or agree with any of these sort of wild things 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.040 that your father in law is putting out there. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.120 Oh no, definitely not. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.480 So tell me about your husband. What's his whole relationship 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.720 like with his family, because it sounds like there's a 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.000 lot of drama going on there. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:55.480 Oh, there is plenty of drama. He he loves. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.840 His mom but tries not to get too involved, and 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.880 he has no content with his dad whatsoever. But I 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.440 actually I can get him to talk to you. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.400 If you want sure. Is he cool with that? 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.760 Let me make sure real fast. But I think he 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:14.240 should be. 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:16.000 Is he in the room with you? 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:19.120 He is? 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.160 Do you want to talk to him? 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.920 Yeah? I'd love to talk to him. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.040 Okay, here he is. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.160 There's no way. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.120 This is the third right now? 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:30.280 Who what's up? 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:30.440 Man? 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:36.400 What's your name? My name is Chris, Chris. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:37.160 How you doing. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.600 Chris, I'm doing good man, Chris, I'm sorry, I forgot 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.440 you guys. Relationship right, is she your fiance or your wife? 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:46.880 Shoes my wife? 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.679 Your wife? Okay, right, I guess I guess if it's 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.560 an in law, you guys are made well your wife. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.120 You picked a great person to be your wife because 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.920 she's clearly very invested in you and in your family 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.280 and cares a lot. I'll say that off the bat. 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.360 She was telling me that your father and that your 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.120 father has been sort of losing it. 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:17.640 Oh yeah, definitely. 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.839 I am one lucky guy to have her in my life. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.600 But then and again. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.520 Yeah, my dad's taking a toll. I don't I don't 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.400 know exactly what got doing, but I think it's something 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.000 he's had and it's got worse because of drug abuse. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.880 But yeah, he's a he's a showcase, that's for sure. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:35.840 And I mean, how do you feel about all this 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.800 because you haven't talked to him in a while, but 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:43.120 you know, you're clearly, like I guess, connected with him 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.280 enough or you're thinking about him enough for you guys 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:48.240 to bring him up to me. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.280 Yeah, definitely. We thought it just be a really good story, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.880 I mean for me, it's not really like an emotional 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.160 thing because it's been going on since I mean, like 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.920 I was I mean basically born, I guess, And I 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.880 mean I can remember little kid being involved in some 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:12.640 stuff and just it being absolutely wild. I mean, he 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.439 has a couple of different personalities and that's sure. 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:20.679 Do you ever think that that affected you at all 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:21.600 when you were growing up? 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.640 Oh yeah, definitely without a doubt, Like being you know, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.120 five six years old and knowing what crack was and 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:36.760 knowing what all these different I guess, different kinds of people, 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.520 that's for sure. I mean, you know, bouncing around trailer 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:43.040 parts and whatnot, you come across some interesting characters. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.240 What about your mom, Do you still keep in contact 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:51.480 with her? 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:53.800 Oh yeah, definitely. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:54.600 My mom. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:56.439 She was a lot different when she. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:57.600 Was with my dad. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:02.960 My mom, she's kind of like she had been with 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.800 him so long that she didn't know anything different. But 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.400 once she got away from him, actually she got a 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.800 lot better. The last time she talked to him, and 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.840 it was actually the last day I talked to him 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.079 as well, and it was on my wedding day. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.040 Of all things. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:20.320 Oh. 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.960 Actually, no, my mom has had to keep up a 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.600 little bit with him. Here and there because she's told 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.440 us some stuff that recently he's been been doing, and 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.480 it's anything like it was when we were younger, because 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.280 I mean, you know, Mom could hide it pretty well, 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.960 but me and mom saying really good contact. I mean, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.679 I try to help her when I can, but you know, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.720 getting my life started and then being able to be 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.200 with her a lot, it's changed, that's for sure. But 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.440 she definitely is a lot more in my life than my. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.600 Dad and has your relationship. So your relationship with your 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.120 mom has gotten better, it sounds once she got away 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:57.760 from your dad. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.640 Yeah, definitely, because she opened up and I knew that 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.719 side of my mom because you know, like when dad 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.600 would be away or we would go do things without him, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.040 which was basically I mean all the time he was there, 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.480 not really in family events because he would start drama, 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.679 and she was a completely different person even when we 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.720 were younger when he wasn't around. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.240 You said she was opening up to you. What kinds 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:26.720 of things would she open up to you about? 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:34.680 Uh, just kind of like I guess her relationships and 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.400 what she does day to day now instead of being 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.000 you know, kind of just like I'm with your dad 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.600 type situation or whatever they were doing at the time. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.720 She's definitely showed more of her personality simply being away 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:48.120 from him. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.240 Yeah, she's forming a bit more of her own identity 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.040 in her own life. 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.920 Yeah, because they got married, well, they actually was in 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:04.800 a they both had kids with. I have two sets 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.760 of stepbrothers, one from my mom's side and one from 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.760 my dad's side. But I mean that was you know, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.040 they were probably nineteen twenty when they had their first kid, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.720 and then they got together after that. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.320 Do you are you in good touch with the brothers 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.439 and the sisters. 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.240 Oh, yeah, definitely. I have an older brother. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.000 I actually have two older brothers, and they are both 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:36.120 the stepbrothers obviously, and I have a full blood young brother. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:42.559 And we adopted she's technically my first cousin, but her 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:48.439 third cousin. Excuse me, but we adopted her because her parents, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.640 I mean, you know, we're pretty close to the same 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.719 as ours. I mean, you know, they didn't have a 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.840 stable support system, so we took her in basically right 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.160 around the time she was born. 0:13:58.960 --> 0:13:59.720 Into high school. 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.000 So it sounds like a lot like you and your 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.000 step siblings. It sounds like a lot of you guys 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.480 didn't have like super stable support systems. Is that accurate? 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.880 Yeah, Like, you know, I remember being twelve thirteen years 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.880 old and dad going out basically on crack binges or 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.440 drug binges, and you know, us kind of fending for ourselves. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:29.040 But luckily the community we moved to after we bounced 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.680 around North Carolina a lot and moved into Tennessee, the 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.000 town and the community was kind of helped us a lot. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.000 You know, me gaining friends and things like that helped 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.640 us a lot. But I mean, we spend for ourselves, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.000 but mom, for us, tried to be there no matter what. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.040 And but a lot of the times it came down 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.880 to you know, her dads even and my dad going 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.720 and doing you know, back to North Carolina and doing 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.440 partying and then would come back, you know to three 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.760 weeks maybe even a month at a time. 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.360 So it was a support system tour. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.360 So when did you When did you meet your wife? 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.360 Well, I actually where the community we. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:17.720 Live in at a. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:23.560 Smaller town, and I actually knew were probably when I 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.200 was around like fifth sixth grade. I knew of her 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.040 and her family and knew her most of my life 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.600 and we actually started talking whenever I got out of 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:36.360 technical school or right around the end of it, so 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:41.080 that would have been I was I was about twenty 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:42.920 years old and I'm twenty four. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:43.520 Now, so. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.720 You know, this is this is I'm very impressed with 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.600 both of you guys because both of you guys, who 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.800 are are you know, seemed to me to be very smart, 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.120 stable people, even coming out of what sounds like a 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.880 pretty crazy environments. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.920 Oh definitely, And we appreciate you saying that. I mean, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.360 we try our best, but I mean we are you know, 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:16.840 small town living cup or married couple, and you know, 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.240 we're simple, but we try to do our best on 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.760 you know, anything we can because we came from nothing 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.240 and you know, when me and her Matt, it was 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.280 it was a pretty close connection and we helped each other, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:29.880 so it was good. 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.640 So you two continue to be the greatest source of 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.480 support in each other's lives. How do you two support 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.680 each other these days? 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.880 Well, I mean we, you know, we do the basics. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.640 We try to talk every day, make sure that you know, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.840 we know what's going on in each other's lives, and 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.440 being there for each other, you know, no matter what circumstance, 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.800 and kind of just living off of that that motto, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.080 you know, be there for each other, and that's kind 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:00.520 of what we oh by. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.200 What is in the future for you too? Are we 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:05.440 are we having a kid? 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.359 We've definitely talked about it, and it's something you know 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.320 that I'm not gonna deny, and you know, if it happens, 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.840 it happens, I would not mind having children, and she 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.040 wouldn't either. You know, she gets baby fever sometimes and 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.160 we you know, we not said no to it, so 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.280 eventually there's definitely a good chance. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.919 Well, guys, thank you very much for sharing your story 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.840 with us. Is there anything else that either you or 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.679 Katie would like to say to the people at the 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:37.760 computer before we go? 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.639 Not necessarily the people of the computer, but thank you 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:43.960 so much for taking my call. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:45.840 It may not not, Oh my god. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.199 Of course, of course. Thank you guys very much for 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:49.640 sharing with us. You guys have a good name. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.000 You too, you too, see it? 0:17:53.720 --> 0:18:01.680 See you guys? Ah oh. I love to those guys. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.400 They were so nice. They were so nice, and they 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:10.040 really were describing like crazy shit. It's very interesting to me. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.879 I feel like I'm losing track of all the calls 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.560 that we've taken on this show, but I feel like 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.080 this has been a common theme of like people going 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:23.800 into a retrospective about some crazy family situation they were 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:28.200 in or whatever, and like, you know, they were doing 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.679 it with a like a smile on their face and 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.920 a very positive attitude. And I'm glad to hear that 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.480 they were talking about how the community was supportive of 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.560 them even when their dad was going on crazy crack 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:47.640 binges and shit. And yeah, just a nice group of folks. 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.760 It's always a pleasure to have a phone call with 0:18:51.160 --> 0:19:02.200 a couple of nice folks from a small town in Tennessee. Hello. Hello, 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:04.119 is this David? 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:07.560 Is this the Gecko? 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:10.800 This is the Gecko? What's going on with you? David? 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:13.960 Hey man? How's it going? 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:14.280 Little? 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.640 No, not much, man, I'm just going pretty good. How 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:19.919 are you? 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.280 You know, I can't complain. I'll find a way, but 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.800 I can't. You know, I'm just chilling man, enjoying the stream. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.320 Well, David, how can I get you this evening? 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:42.320 You know that's a good question. So right now I'm 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.639 on campus doing a three D sculpt of a friend 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.840 who gave me her three D head scan And it's 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.399 at that point in the I'm a digital sculpture, by 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.800 the way, is at that point in the sculpt where, well, 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.879 she's naked and I'm trying to find a good way 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:02.680 to poser so I can put clothes on her. And uh, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:08.560 this is a bit awkward, you know, just trying to 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.960 pose a friend, you know. 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.840 Okay, you are three D sculpting your friend. Uh, well, 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:19.399 it says here, I'm gonna say what says here. It 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:23.720 says here that you're making a sculpture of your friend. 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:25.320 And this is nothing, this is physical. This is all 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.879 on the computer. Yeah, okay, so your friend gave you 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.520 her head, and so you have her head a digital 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.000 naked body. And it says here that you are falling 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.760 in love with this three D model that you have 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:40.680 your friend's head. 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:47.879 I don't know if that's accurate. I think your your guide, 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.840 Tim might have been a little bit over exaggerating. 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.440 But is he ever exaggerating. 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:58.560 It's difficult. No, I think he's over exaggering a little bit. 0:20:59.160 --> 0:20:59.440 Okay. 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:00.960 I don't think I'm calling alone with the three D 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:05.080 model for sure, But it is kind of weird just 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:10.880 constantly staring at this this girl's face. I don't think 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:16.120 I'm growing feelings. I mean, well, she's attractive first off, 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:20.119 and I don't know, man, it's just it's just weird. 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.320 I'm staring at her, her naked body of digital equivalent 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.119 and figure out what. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:31.760 The post has David, are you? Are you? This is 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:36.080 your your friend? Are you? Do you like her? Do 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:37.159 you like like her? 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:40.639 While? 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:45.679 I mean she has a boyfriend, and I don't want 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.720 to be I see, I have a habit. I'm going 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:49.800 to get off topic for a second while I have 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:54.480 a habit of falling for girls who are emotionally unavailable. 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.600 So you are attractive to this. 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:02.840 Person, yeah, but I think it's better off as friends 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:03.920 because she has a boyfriend. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:12.080 Okay, so why are we having trouble with this three 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:12.920 D model thing? 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.040 Well, I don't know, man, it's getting weird. Like I'm 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.280 finding pictures of her to try to get like a 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.679 decent reference, and I'm just staring at pictures of her 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.000 like hours at a time, trying to sculpt it, and 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.680 it part of it feels weird And I don't know 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:34.440 if I'm setting myself up for another failure of I 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:39.280 don't know how to put it, like just getting attached 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.480 to someone who I know is not emotionally available again, 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:43.520 if that makes. 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:48.000 Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And Here's what I would 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:53.359 say to you. I'm David. You have your life and 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:59.440 you have your work, your three D sculptor. You're professional 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:05.000 three D sculptor. You work? What do you work in? Blender? 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:07.440 What's the part? What's the program? 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:07.800 Uh? 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:09.320 Z brush? 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:10.400 You work in Z brush? 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:13.560 Dame, I did not know you were in the program. 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.439 I don't I know Blender and now I know Z Brush. 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:20.480 Okay, man, that's two. 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.239 Okay, you're working in Blender. So listen, David. If you're 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:28.639 a professional sculptor and you also have your own personal life, 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:32.159 separate those two things. So if you're gonna make up 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:36.399 three D model friends, make a three D model of 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:41.320 your friends. And if you're going to this whole thing, 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.600 it doesn't need to be as complicated as you're making 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.159