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Speaker 1: Stephen, thank you very much for giving us some time

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Speaker 1: on this Friday. How are you doing, sir, Hey, We're

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Speaker 1: doing pretty good. Just obviously a disappointing afternoon yesterday and

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Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, got to take

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Speaker 1: your hat off to the Raiders. They played better and

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Speaker 1: we've just got to continue to improve. Good news is

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Speaker 1: we've got some guys who are going to be working

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Speaker 1: back in again this week as well, in terms of

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Speaker 1: you know, feel good that we're going to continue to improve,

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Speaker 1: but right now we're not where we need to be.

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Speaker 1: A big talking point after that game, Stephen, not only

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Speaker 1: from from Jerry and Mike McCarthy and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the players, was indeed the officiating and in twenty eight

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Speaker 1: total penalties that were called in that game, pass interference

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Speaker 1: being a huge one. I know you're on the competition committee,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you see a game that has that

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Speaker 1: amount of penalties, is that something that you guys talk

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Speaker 1: about in the offseason. I'm sure as football fans they

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Speaker 1: probably don't enjoy seeing a game that's that impacted by

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Speaker 1: passioner feerence calls not have that much of an impact

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Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty or how do you assess that. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've gone over to ad nauseam on the competition committee.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you know it's not you know, you'd like to

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Speaker 1: think you're not going to have games where there's twenty

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Speaker 1: eight penalties. I know, obviously people are focused on our

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Speaker 1: other side as well, and totally understand the DPI. What

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Speaker 1: you really get into is these guys at the professional

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Speaker 1: the safeties, everybody include out there. They're so athletic that

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Speaker 1: we just feel like you would have a lot more

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, give up the forty or fifty

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Speaker 1: is this something that we go over extensively. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we'll continue to go over it. I don't think you know,

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Speaker 1: It is disrupted to the game. It's disrupted to the

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Speaker 1: that's the intent. And you know, obviously those guys, you

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Speaker 1: they're having conversations with those guys about it. But as

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Speaker 1: fourteen were called on the Raiders as well, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they felt some of those were a little over

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Speaker 1: we we've got to get our penalties in line, certainly. Uh.

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Speaker 1: something about it. They're obviously, you know, stressing some things

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Speaker 1: with us here in the nosebleed seats. Stephen, what went

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Speaker 1: rotating of the offensive linemen. Well, we've got seven really

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Speaker 1: and we'll continue to get our hands around what's the

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Speaker 1: best situation for us as we move forward. But Lyle's

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Speaker 1: of the head coach ultimately, but the process involved, how

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Speaker 1: in terms of the different decisions that a head coach

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Speaker 1: every head coach understands that. I've served on the Competition

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Speaker 1: confidence right now when it comes to Greg's earline. I

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Speaker 1: The extra point had become you know, anne play in

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Speaker 1: He seemed like he was really fighting through it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: don't see that as much when he's you know, he's

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Speaker 1: every time he plays the Cowboys, he has a great

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Speaker 1: maybe we should just sign that guy, no matter how

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Speaker 1: have to play against him. Well, he is a great

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Speaker 1: He's made a lot of big plays against him. Of course,

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Speaker 1: that would work whenever he's available. But boy, hats off

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Speaker 1: to him. He had a great game yesterday and he's

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Speaker 1: the years. Any update on Neville Gallimore You mentioned his

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Speaker 1: And Tristan Hill looked like he had a pretty good game.

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Speaker 1: There was an incident after the game on the field.

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Speaker 1: not I don't have any details on after the game

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Speaker 1: I mean, he plays plays really hard. As you see,

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Speaker 1: sideline the sideline. He's really brought some energy to that

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Speaker 1: defensive line group. And certainly as we get guys back,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be real interesting as we're able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, really roll these guys and see what kind

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Speaker 1: of plays they can make. Stephen, day after Thanksgiving, what

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Speaker 1: is your favorite Thanksgiving leftover food? I'd have to go

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Speaker 1: with the turkey sandwich, A good call. What do you

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Speaker 1: put on that? Bad boy? Little durkeys, a little mustard,

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Speaker 1: and pretty good stuff. It is some good stuff right there,

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Speaker 1: all right. And the most overrated Thanksgiving dishes what, Stephen?

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Speaker 1: I don't think I have one. I enjoyed most of them.

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Speaker 1: I've got to try a little bit of everything, so

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Speaker 1: there's not much that if someone puts it in front

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Speaker 1: of me, I won't enjoy it. Well, Stephen, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for giving us some time here the day

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Speaker 1: after what was certainly not a game that it didn't

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Speaker 1: go the way we wanted to. But let's get back

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Speaker 1: on that winning track on next week, next Thursday night

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Speaker 1: against the Saints. And we appreciate your time, sir. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys, and enjoy your family this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Hope everybody out there has a good holiday