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Speaker 1: Da Around the NFL Podcast never refuses free under pains.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast, presented by Head and Shoulders. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hanzas, and I am joined by room filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes, so many heroes. Mark Sessler, Colleen Wolf, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up people? What's up? Gang? Hey, that's

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Speaker 1: actually not true. Off the top, we were given free

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Speaker 1: underpants uh months ago, and I wound up giving them

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Speaker 1: to the Paramore in a strange development for everyone. Slash

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Speaker 1: inappropriate on some level, feels inappropriate to me. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding, wearing me and these right now

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Speaker 1: there are. I am totally sold on the product, and

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Speaker 1: I you too long for them to return as a sponsor,

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Speaker 1: no longer with us. I could tell that you were

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Speaker 1: sold on them, really, just based on your reaction at

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Speaker 1: the media summit we had that night. From the start,

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Speaker 1: I thought Mark was sold on white wine at that

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Speaker 1: at that well, it's possible to be sold on both. Well,

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Speaker 1: it takes a lot to impress Mark because famously he

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Speaker 1: didn't wear underwear for that it changed my clothing, second,

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Speaker 1: went on for years, and then one day, all of

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Speaker 1: separating you from everything. I remember Mark being annoyed that

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Speaker 1: minute ago. Uh, any chance you go back to Commando?

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Speaker 1: It all depends. I mean, if I lived in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: exactly A lot to get to today, big show. Um

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Speaker 1: we have let's see what do we got coming up to?

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Speaker 1: Let's go through. We have Monday Night football the Lions

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Speaker 1: preview Thursday Night football that is a NFC West matchup

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Speaker 1: week but now is the time or midway through the season,

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Speaker 1: it's an around the NFL podcast tradition where we decide

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Speaker 1: which teams have literally no chance of making the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And it's not a happy it's not always a happy show.

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Speaker 1: Um and uh is speaking of which not always happy

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Speaker 1: news to report. Mark, we are a news podcast at

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Speaker 1: our heart and you have some very sad news from

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Speaker 1: cessler mannor don't you Yeah? I do. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: this came out of nowhere. Um. As you know, we

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Speaker 1: pouring in from the listeners hashtag a t N cat.

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Speaker 1: But yesterday we were preparing to take uh the little

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Speaker 1: work out. But Mark, you and the family, you did

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Speaker 1: I don't trust John for a variety of other reasons,

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Speaker 1: not pet ownership. All right, So John rend which writer

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Speaker 1: Pat's uh cats persona on grata Rest in peace, bullets.

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Speaker 1: team changes. You can call the team sport and it is.

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Speaker 1: But there's you remove Aaron Rodgers and the Packers are

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Speaker 1: it's just a contest of which quarterbacks, if they're protected well,

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Speaker 1: basis by rog with the ability to quote join the

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Speaker 1: Browns to attend team meetings, engage in conditioning work and

428
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Speaker 1: individual workouts. The earliest he could return, uh is week

429
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Speaker 1: thirteen against the against the Chargers. Mark, Uh, what do

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Speaker 1: you take out of this? I mean, we just if

431
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Speaker 1: you're watching the video version of this show, they just

432
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Speaker 1: showed a highlight of him catching deep strikes from Jason Campbell.

433
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Speaker 1: That's how long it's been since he's been really relevant

434
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And honestly that the story that came

435
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Speaker 1: out yesterday from g Q where he talked about the

436
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Speaker 1: fact that he's Yeah, I mean I I I'm really

437
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Speaker 1: kind of brooding for Josh Gordon, not from a Browns

438
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Speaker 1: angle at all, but he talked about the fact he

439
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Speaker 1: has a two year old daughter now and that before

440
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Speaker 1: all this that he played almost every game he can

441
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Speaker 1: never remember either you know, having been slightly drunk or

442
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: high or or a combination of for the games and

443
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Speaker 1: and he you know, and college. And he pointed out,

444
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Speaker 1: and I think he's ups right about this that he's

445
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Speaker 1: not alone, that there are other players. And I think that,

446
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Speaker 1: and I think that he probably feels like all along

447
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: that he's been singled out, but he's also you know,

448
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: and he acknowledges in the piece too. He made tons

449
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: of mistakes. He never really took I guess his sobriety

450
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Speaker 1: seriously on any level. And he is. He is the

451
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Speaker 1: guy that made the decision to go back into rehab

452
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Speaker 1: last October. And so the point is, you hope that

453
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Speaker 1: whole thing is progress in his life. The football version

454
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Speaker 1: of Josh Gordon, I think it's fair to say. I

455
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say anyone should rely on anything until we see it.

456
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Speaker 1: It's just simply it doesn't matter until it happens. Now. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: I thought from that g Q piece it was really

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Speaker 1: interesting about him talking about how he had something in

459
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Speaker 1: his system. For every single game, he would take shots.

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Speaker 1: Maybe before a game, he would drink like half a

461
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Speaker 1: glass of alcohol, Hall take a giant bomb rip rip,

462
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: like when people smell that on him, So they let

463
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Speaker 1: him out and seals there. Even if you're a home game,

464
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Speaker 1: you stay in a team hotel and then they release

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Speaker 1: you back to your residence for two or three hours

466
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and you come back and he would go

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Speaker 1: home and do it not at the hotel, and he'd

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Speaker 1: clean himself up, you know, smell wise, I guess before

469
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Speaker 1: he got back. But he he said that every time

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Speaker 1: he went to rehab. Before this, last time, he was

471
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Speaker 1: doing it for other people, or he was doing it

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Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons. He was doing it because, you know,

473
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Speaker 1: he wanted to play football againner he was doing it

474
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Speaker 1: for his coaches, or his teammates or you know, his family.

475
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Speaker 1: But this time he was doing it for himself because

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Speaker 1: he actually thought that he was going to end up

477
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Speaker 1: killing himself. And so you know, you just hope that

478
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Speaker 1: he can really get himself back on track this time. Addiction. Man,

479
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: it's no joke. Um, all right, finally in the news, Hey,

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00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: good news for a wide receiver. Another wide receiver of

481
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Speaker 1: the Steelers, Juju Smiths use there, got his driver's license.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to ride his bike. I'll need the

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Speaker 1: bike no more. Although I think he should stick with

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Speaker 1: the bike because he's getting a lot of juice off

485
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Speaker 1: the bike. Um, if he goes to car now, he

486
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: won't nearly have this. You're just a normal civilian. That

487
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. And I feel like if we

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Speaker 1: were covering high school football, like a player getting their

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Speaker 1: driver's license would be a big news update. I don't

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Speaker 1: it's a little strange to be discussing this for an

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Speaker 1: NFL player. But you told a good story in our

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Speaker 1: pre prod meeting, which not to be confused with our

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Speaker 1: coffee and Danish meeting ahead of the fork segments. Your

494
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Speaker 1: first experience, UH with a license did not go to well, no, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean famously a terrible driver, Mark, I'm a terrible driver.

496
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Speaker 1: I don't even really drive at this point to begin with.

497
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Speaker 1: But I this was like ages ago, and it was

498
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Speaker 1: a snowy morning when I had to take the written

499
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Speaker 1: and drive it driven version of my driver's test. Retise

500
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Speaker 1: petrified because you had to get twelve at least twelve

501
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: out of sixteen right to advance the onto the driving side.

502
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: I got twelve right on the nose at some computerized program,

503
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Speaker 1: and then I did drive around the Danbury, Connecticut, which

504
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Speaker 1: I had never driven in my life. Basically it was

505
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: like busy streets and crazy ambulances with this guy probably

506
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: barely passed that version of it, barely passed that. And

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00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: then on the way home, my dad was he was

508
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: like very proud, he said, you know, a great job.

509
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Speaker 1: He's like, why don't you drive home from here? And

510
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: I thought okay, And it was again it was like slick,

511
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: snowy streets about ten minutes into this like into this wind. Well,

512
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: now he was you know, it's like, you're you're a guy.

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Speaker 1: Now you have a driver's license, why would dad drive

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Speaker 1: you home. I totally get the point of view. I

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Speaker 1: got into a a splender bender in the middle of

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Speaker 1: nowhere with this car that had been parked for like

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Speaker 1: twenty yards. Somehow I hit it, and then my dad

518
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Speaker 1: drove home the rest of the way, and I thought

519
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Speaker 1: this wasn't and I really I didn't really drive again

520
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: for I didn't want to tell my friends that I

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Speaker 1: had the license because I was a little older than

522
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Speaker 1: a lot of people in my grade, so I had

523
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Speaker 1: one of the first people to get a car. But

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Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not going to play car pool guy

525
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Speaker 1: every weekend. Downside of you got I didn't either, but

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Speaker 1: I had a friend who got his license earlier, and

527
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Speaker 1: we just they're always getting banks, although it's less of

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00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: a deal for that guy because he's not just hitting

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00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: park cars all over the place, like like here, here's

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite Mark Sessler car related fun facts. Mark,

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Speaker 1: We've known each other for over seven years. Now, you've

532
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: worked together for seven years. I have been in a

533
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: car fewer times with you driving than the number of

534
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Speaker 1: accidents you've been in that time two to one. I listen,

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Speaker 1: I've taken myself off the road. I'm just not a

536
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: good driver, and I'm okay with that. I think I

537
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: drove you four blocks to a car repair shop to

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Speaker 1: get your car. That's it? Yeah? No, was that it? Yeah?

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00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: It task correctly issues that one. Um, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening. So congratulations juju Uh, that's what's happening in

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Speaker 1: the news. All right, it's time, Oh, hop on those shoulders,

542
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: because we're gonna find out who's got the shoulders of

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00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: greatness presented by Head and Shoulders are Thursday night preview

544
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: and yes, uh, this is a NFC West matchup between

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals and Seattle Seahawks in Glendale, Arizona the

546
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: Glendale Yeah correct, um uh your thoughts on this game,

547
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: gre Well, this is the game where we can maybe

548
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: put the Cardinals to rest and they'll they'll be talked

549
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: about in a little bit one of many four and

550
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: four teams in the NFL which you just don't take seriously,

551
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: which is how I view them Withdrew Stanton. Now, they

552
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: do have Adrian Peterson running pretty well. It's like depends

553
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: on the week whether you believe in him or not.

554
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I have a hard time seeing

555
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: them putting the ball in the end zone against the Seahawks.

556
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little bit of a trap

557
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: gaming scenario for Seattle because it's in Arizona, and I

558
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 1: could see these games are always strange. Uh, this has

559
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: been a great good rivalry the last five years. It has,

560
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: and it's the two best teams in November since two

561
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Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, and that includes some bad Cardinals teams that

562
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: you know kind of rose up during that month. So

563
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the thing is the key

564
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: is stopping Russell Wilson. No no quarterback in the league

565
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: is being leaned on harder through the air. It's like,

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Speaker 1: really the only type of offense they have right now.

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00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: Or him on the ground got the running game going

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00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: a little late in that game, most of it was him,

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Speaker 1: I would I would say, I think they may be

570
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: found a little something late in that game. Pete Carroll

571
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: could feel good about with Thomas Rawles that maybe Eddie

572
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Lacy getting hurt, Uh, you know proves that Michael that

573
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi phrasees, sometimes you're one injury away from getting better,

574
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: and I think that could be it. And and we

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00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: were just watching on the video show all the highlights

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00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: from Adrian Peterson, who he had thirty seven carries in

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00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: this game. That's a career high for him. So I'm

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00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: wondering if he I mean, yeah, like the recovery standpoint

579
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: there on a short week with all of that volume.

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Speaker 1: But also the Cardinals front seven played a really good

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00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: game last week, and you're going up against a bad

582
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: offensive line again with Seattle, so like Carlos Dansby with

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Speaker 1: him in this game. Yeah, so that's gonna be a

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00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: tough one for Russell Wilson. They're they're talented enough unlike

585
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: the Packer Like I've been waiting for this Cardinals defense

586
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: to be a little better this year. Like they're more

587
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: talented than the Packers in terms of maybe the defense

588
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: could carry a poor quarterback. Redskins held the Seahawks without

589
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: points on the first drive ten drives last game. Uh,

590
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: then the then the floodgates open. But I do think

591
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: that you can game plan and stop this offense, and

592
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: we've seen it multiple weeks for quarters at a time.

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00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: With Seattle. Drew Stanton was okay um in the start

594
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: last week, and uh, he'll probably have to be a

595
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: little better than okay to beat the Seahawks. But Earl

596
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: Thomas is still a question mark. You missed that game,

597
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: we saw how vulnerable the secondary is there. Uh, their

598
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: inability to get a stop at the end of the

599
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: game against the Redskins. So that will make a major difference.

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Speaker 1: And you would think on a short week and the

601
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: last thing the Seahawks want to do is have Earl

602
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Thomas reaggravate a hamstring injury that maybe they gave him

603
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: another week. We'll see, but that would be a big

604
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: difference in this game too. Dwayne Brown really helped the Seahawks.

605
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the rest of the line struggled, but he

606
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: played well. Now he's going up against Chandler Jones, Like

607
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make a difference for this They got.

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Speaker 1: It's got some great shoulders, Dwayne. They had four I

609
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: think in that Redskins game. They have got to They

610
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: cannot do that every week, right they have They have

611
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: a guy on their team, Jermaine Effetti I believe has

612
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: four more penalties than any other offensive lineman in the

613
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: league at some point. I don't know. You gotta do something,

614
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: you gotta take him out or do you do something.

615
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: Blair Walsh is also he will be the kicker for

616
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Connie Foxer said he had bad shoulders. Seemed

617
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a cheap shot, but uh no,

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00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: he is field goals. I thought that'd be all over

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Speaker 1: your radar. No, no, it is. It's all over my radar.

620
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: But he needs to have a good game or they're

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Speaker 1: going to get well. This is the rematch of one

622
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: of the most famous games of last year, which had

623
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Speaker 1: some key wild field goals. Again. Um, all right, there

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Speaker 1: is your Thursday night football preview. The shoulders, Yes, shoulders,

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Speaker 1: that's more than head and shoulders was expecting. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: they say in life there are no guarantees. They say

627
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Speaker 1: there's no short thing. Well, I'm here to tell you

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Speaker 1: there might just be one action. It's Husky Home Depot

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Speaker 1: Husky Tools in Husky started making things for people who

630
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Speaker 1: make things, and they did it with common sense. That

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Speaker 1: meant adding function, never frills, and making tools that stood

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Speaker 1: the tests of time. Ninety three years later, Husky is

633
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Speaker 1: still making quality, crafted, durable tools and Husky stands by

634
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Speaker 1: their hand tools for life, so they gave them a

635
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Speaker 1: lifetime warranty. Wow. Like the Husky ratchet with position ratcheting

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Speaker 1: design and longer handle that standard ratchets to do what

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Speaker 1: other ratchets. Can't you into that ratchet? Huh? Or the

638
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Speaker 1: virtually unbreakable Husky flashlight with the ability to withstand a

639
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Speaker 1: thirty ft drop and work and up to one meter

640
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Speaker 1: of water submersion. If they if we're talking water, uh damage,

641
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Speaker 1: do they go to the meter system? I'm confused? That's

642
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Speaker 1: that's a good question. With the ad copy Fulton, Well,

643
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Speaker 1: don't use meter in this country? Why are we not

644
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Speaker 1: using feet? I don't know. I didn't make it. Just

645
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: like you always say every time someone criticizes you about

646
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: the copy, I just read what's told. I just print

647
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Speaker 1: with scent. This is um. My question for you is

648
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: we need to get in touch with the Husky people

649
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: to see if they have abandoned the measurement that we

650
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: use in this country. Husky is gonna care at all.

651
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: They're so they're so self confident in their product and

652
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: in their delivery that they're not going to change a thing.

653
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's on our complain. Maybe they are China,

654
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Speaker 1: be the change that you want in the world, because

655
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Speaker 1: our our systems terrible. I gotta get rid of it.

656
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Speaker 1: Whoa hot take? Save it for the metric podcast Great

657
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Speaker 1: Learn more at www dot Husky tools dot com. Husky

658
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Speaker 1: common Sense Tools since nine with hand tools guaranteed for

659
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Speaker 1: a lifetime, found only at the Home Depot. Alright, we'll

660
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: say it. One week ago, Greg tried to take all

661
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: the mails down and Colleen with them in this room

662
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: about the fact that none of us have the brawn

663
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: or the wherewithal to use any sort of a hand tool,

664
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: that we need to hire another minute for that sign

665
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: to be put up in the well, and but Dan

666
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: that still stood on Dan's radar. To the fact that

667
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: we've had multiple discussions and it's gotten a little testy

668
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: at times about this, I will say Dan read that

669
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: copy better than the other three podcasts that I've heard

670
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: over the last few weeks that had the same copy.

671
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: So I really liked there was, Yes, there was. It

672
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: came out that Gregg doesn't own a toolbox. Uh so

673
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: maybe we have some tools. I don't think there's a

674
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: whole box. I'll leave it there all right here, we go.

675
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Let's move on. It is time, ladies and gentlemen. Um,

676
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: you know what was she get in touch with your

677
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: lovely wife? Maybe you should use a tool a toolbox.

678
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: A man should have a toolbox. Yeah, you can borrow mine.

679
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: She you know, we rent first of all, and then

680
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: second of all, she still need tools. If your rent.

681
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: You know she's saying rents a house. I say, you

682
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: rent tools. That seems overly composed, but they're still upkeep

683
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: for us house. That's where that's where I get some

684
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: hang stuff on the wall or like like fixed things.

685
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: You're not going to get anywhere with us. She mostly

686
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: takes care of that sort of thinking. But I appreciate

687
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: your confidence in in your manhood. It's okay if the

688
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: wife handles it. You're just I don't need to do

689
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: what you're saying. That's good, she's better at it. Let's

690
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: move on. It is time. Yes, finally, at long last,

691
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: let's stick a fork in some teams so stupid. Um.

692
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: All right, So now, if you're new to the show,

693
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: news to the show, we need to give a little background.

694
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: What the stick of fork in series is? Um, this

695
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: is listen, it's respectful, but it's also we keep it real.

696
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: We keep it real. Is I know it's only week nine,

697
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: uh going into week ten now, but the hard truth

698
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: is only greg twelve teams make the playoffs, and that

699
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: means twenty teams. Yes, twenty teams will be outside in

700
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: the cold. And let's be honest, at least half those

701
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: teams they already dead in the water before we get

702
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: to the second half of the season. That's what we're

703
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: going to talk about today. We've been doing it for

704
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: a few years now, and um, last year, how do

705
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: we do last year? Do you remember who do we decided?

706
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 1: Right around this time last season we sent about eight

707
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: to ten teams I think, uh to the meat grinder.

708
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: Uh did we get burned last year? Yeah? The Texans

709
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: I believe definitely burned us. I would say, if you're

710
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: a fan of any of the teams that we fork you,

711
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: if you choose to not lose total hope. There are

712
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: facts to back that up, because every single year we

713
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: have a team or two that we get wrong. I

714
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: think there was one year where where we played it

715
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: two years ago I think fairly safe, and you guys

716
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: were very angry about that because you need you need

717
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: to go out on a limb at some point you wait,

718
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: can't wait till Christmas Eve to to decide that a

719
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: team that's has four wins isn't making the playoffs. It

720
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: must to be the official end of their season. And

721
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: we're wrong every year. Yeah, no one, no one from

722
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: these teams or their fan base should be concerned at

723
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: all about our ruling today. You should be concerned because

724
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: that means you're not having a great season. But it

725
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: doesn't mean to give up hope. You know what I mean.

726
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just you don't want to be brought

727
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: up in this conversation. But don't be so sensitive. Yeah,

728
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: calm down, um. And one last note, um, if we

729
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: do get a team wrong, we will make a charitable

730
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: donation we promise to the city where that team plays.

731
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Speaker 1: And I thought, just because Colleen has over three shows

732
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Speaker 1: and then, although we haven't had these discussion, probably makes

733
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Speaker 1: more money than us. Colleen. I don't sorry the sad

734
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: truth as well, but we're still gonna go with you, Colleen.

735
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: Colleen will make a charitable donation. Uh this year. I'm

736
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: just me on topic to being a sad, sad truth

737
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: that she's female. I didn't quite track that coming other

738
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Speaker 1: but less money. Well know, Colleen, Colleen is pain making

739
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: more than probably the three of us combined. So that's

740
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: that's fantastic, good for her. Um, So thank you Colleen

741
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: for all this. Now, how do we decide it's okay? Colleen,

742
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: no one ever actually follows through with this empty promise.

743
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: We have Mark. Now, this is when we discuss how

744
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: we get to this. We decide we have to get

745
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: together and how we meet. The first thing in the morning,

746
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking five am. We beat the roosters to this

747
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: conference room at a local holiday and there's Danish coffee.

748
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: Um holiday, a Jewish delicacy, Greg famous one. I'm locking

749
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: on it. Locks. We get some locks, maybe a little

750
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: little Kanish, you know, and we get together. They say coffee,

751
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: he said, you did little orange juice. And where we

752
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: go and we decide which teams get forked and what

753
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: we did today in the in the in the service

754
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: of saving some time. There are seven teams that we

755
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: all decided over Danish Gregg that we're don't even get

756
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: the You don't even get the the enjoyment of hearing

757
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: us talk about your team. That's the problem. Yeah, No,

758
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: you're not. Yeah, it's just it's we all unanimously agree.

759
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's that we're not breaking any news

760
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: here that the forty right, It's it's self evident that

761
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: some of these teams don't need a lot of cheddar

762
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: here are. We call this the Damned seven, the Cleveland Browns,

763
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty and Ironers, the New York Giants,

764
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Houston Texas

765
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. So it's like kind of a brogue that

766
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: you have, but not really happening there, kind of who

767
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: would have thought that the Texans and Bucks don't even

768
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: merit a discussion? But I was sorry I read it.

769
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: I was surprised, but that we all two and six.

770
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: They're starting quarterbacks after a few weeks. I mean, it's

771
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: been a bad year. There's no hope for the Bucks

772
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: and the Texans. You you were potentially a super Bowl

773
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: contender if J. J. Watton, Deshaun Watson we're still playing,

774
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: but they're not. Tom Savage is not saving your season.

775
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: Although that's what we said about broadcast Wiler at this

776
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: point last year, We got them absolutely incorrect. Last year,

777
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: Tom Savage maybe real but the playoff chances for his

778
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: team not really vastly less Bears fans. Bears fans could

779
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: make a case that we're short circuiting them a little.

780
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: They're feisty, they've got a defense. Crazier things have happened,

781
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: but in their hearts, when you're three and five, you

782
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: basically gotta go six or seven of eight down the stretch.

783
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bears are doing that. Now, part

784
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: two of this exercise, we're gonna each nominate two teams.

785
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Uh for a discussion, general discussion Again, to be forked,

786
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: it has to be unanimous forking. Uh to fork this right? Uh?

787
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: So Mark, get us going nominated team? Alright, I'm gonna

788
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: nominate a team that should have been I think in

789
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: the damned eight if we had not had damn seven.

790
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: And that is the Cincinnati have the same ring, you know,

791
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same ring neither this This team does

792
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: not have a playoff ring. They don't have anything in

793
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: their books and that I enjoy it all. They're hard

794
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: to watch. The offense of the Bengals is putrid. The

795
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: defense has a little bit going on, but that what

796
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: does that mean when your team is getting When Andy

797
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: Dalton Is getting taken to the turf fourteen times a game,

798
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: didn't have anything going on. I'm telling you this team

799
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: could have been forked three weeks ago. They're on my

800
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: radar all season long, and they're out of my They're

801
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: out of my life now. It should have happened a

802
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: week ago, two weeks ago, three weeks ago. I didn't

803
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: believe in them before the season. You're gone, Bengals. You're out,

804
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: well not out, you're nominating them to be. I will

805
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: lose trust for anyone that that fights for this team.

806
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about I'm tempted to just for the value

807
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: of seeing what happens to Mark if if I mean

808
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: the point, I mean, I'll live. But that's also that's

809
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: also not treating the segment with any sort of dignity.

810
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Well Gregs used to do on that. Look, I created

811
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: this segment so I can make any rules I want

812
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: on it. And I'm saying that was on a different platform,

813
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: but I mean I did it here too. What else

814
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: all right? Here? The idea was you're saying the season

815
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: is totally over and could the Bengals rally? They do

816
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: have some talent, probably not, but well it's crazier things

817
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: have happened. So outside of the make it very clear

818
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: that you created the segment. What do you have to offer.

819
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, Yeah, I guess I'll keep them. Okay,

820
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: ends to it really wasn't going to. Okay, you don't know.

821
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: If you don't believe in it, don't don't give him. Yeah,

822
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: if you do, I just want you to actually believe it.

823
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Not pressure right now, great creative a game. No one

824
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: will affect him. I'm just saying my game, not saying Adam, Greg,

825
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: you're saying if anyone you're lucky. I'm letting you even

826
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: use the wording of this game I for on two platforms.

827
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead of what are you gonna for

828
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: him or not? No? Yeah, we're getting for him. Okay,

829
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: I think that might affect also a Greg Sandwich bet

830
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: if I recall I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Um.

831
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: I rewatching the Bengals game yesterday. They are so lifeless.

832
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: You pointed one great thing out they when they kneel

833
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: on the ball to end the game when you're losing.

834
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to think that you're still you

835
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: got some fighting? Great? They still can't get Joe Mixing owing.

836
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: It's like, I just I don't care. All right, I'm

837
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Dolphins in this one. You need

838
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: you have to nominate them. I'm nominating following protocol. Greg,

839
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: this this is up to standards. Okay, cool, I'm nominating

840
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and salty and everybody a little salty day.

841
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: I like it. They're coming off they're coming off their

842
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: best offensive performance of the year. But don't, I mean,

843
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: pay no mind to that at all. The offense is

844
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: still on pace to be the worst offense statistically in

845
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: team history, their last in so many different categories, points

846
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: per game, yards per play, big plays, offensive touchdowns. I mean,

847
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: this team just it stinks. There's nothing that makes me

848
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: optimistic when I'm watching them and they get rid of Jgi,

849
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: and I know that they're two backs. They did okay,

850
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: and they and they looked good. But I cannot get

851
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: behind this team. Last year, actially in that division. Last year,

852
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: I saved us from making a charitable donate to the

853
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: city of Miami, a real hero move by me, because

854
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are nominated at this time last year, and

855
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: I said, no, let's let's give it a few weeks

856
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: and I feel the same way about this Dolphins team.

857
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: Do I believe in j Cutler, No? But do I

858
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: believe in the a f C, especially the back end

859
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: of the FC? Not at all. So if the Dolphins

860
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: at four and four right now, they're the seventh seed

861
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: right now, if the season ended today, they wouldn't make

862
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: the plays. But they're right outside the playoffs. Um, this

863
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: is saying they have no hope. What's so can I

864
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: say that they have no chance? They I can't say that.

865
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: So I, well, we could just play it safe with

866
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: all the teams. How about we do that? Well? I

867
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: like that response, like that attitude. There's only four teams

868
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: I a f C that even have five plus wins, right.

869
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember one year where I think I tried

870
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: to kill the segment by saying, let's fork everyone, and

871
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: it worked. Three teams came back to get at us,

872
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: but I guess it didn't kill the second. Well, we

873
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: have three straight primetime games to watch the Dolphins, so

874
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: lucky us un otherwise. So yeah, they're in Carolina on

875
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Monday night. I'm blocking this fork? But am I alone?

876
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: Do you got Greg and Mark just because of the

877
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: a f C thing? I just I think one of

878
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: these weird, crappy teams is going to make some sort

879
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: of a run, and the Dolphins did it last year.

880
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: They were just as I would think that the Bengals,

881
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: to me, would be more likely to make a run

882
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: than the Dolphins. Evolved, I would go with the Bengals,

883
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: so I would fork him. I'm saying, by that logic,

884
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: Bengals are gone, but two out of four is not

885
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: going to get it done. I'm sorry, Colleen, do not

886
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: take it out on us personally. I think the thirty

887
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: first best team in the league according to football Outsiders

888
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: before last week, which they weren't too bad. That might

889
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: have been one of their better games. All right, I

890
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: will nominate the team now, and I'm gonna go big,

891
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: go home situation, Go big or go home. They say

892
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: I ain't going home, going big, So I'm gonna nominate

893
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: the defending NFC champion Atlanta Falcons. Now. They like the Dolphins,

894
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: are four and four. They are projected they are eighth

895
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: seed right now. Uh, one game out of the playoffs,

896
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: one game out of playoffs, all that checks out. So

897
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm basing this more on just what I've seen from

898
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: this team and this team to me doesn't have it.

899
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, I don't think this team has it.

900
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: I think they the offense is legitimately uh lost, and

901
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: I think there will be changes in the leadership after

902
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: the season. I don't think it's something that gets fixed. Um.

903
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that Falcons are going to the playoffs.

904
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: So I see them as a five hundred team that

905
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: they'll continue to scuffle and disappoint and put up twenty

906
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: point games, and I don't think they're gonna find it

907
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: in the second half. That's why I nominate them. And

908
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: I understand if it's gonna get blocked here, but I'm

909
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: just gonna put it out there now that I I

910
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: think I've seen enough of Atlanta to say this ain't

911
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: there year. You have my vote, because it's not just

912
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: that they don't seem to have it. So many other

913
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: teams in the NFC right now are starting to get

914
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: their sea legs under them. I I think the Falcons

915
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: get I can see him as an eight and eight

916
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: team that misses a party. And I know it's a

917
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: little bit edgy there. Four and four, but yes, you

918
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: have My schedule is a strong case against them because

919
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: they have the Cowboys, the Seahawks. They have the Saints twice,

920
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: They've had the easier part of their schedule already. They

921
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: have the Panthers coming up to again, and the Vikings.

922
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: That's a lot of the top teams. Basically, all the

923
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: teams in front of them. You could look at it

924
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: like they're they're in trouble. Then again, they at least

925
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: can take out the teams in front of them. They

926
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: they've played too well for me to discount them. I

927
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: definitely keep them alive. I wouldn't lock them. I'm with

928
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: you on it. I would I would not I would

929
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: would you would? I would fork them. I'm with you

930
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: on this. I mean, we have zero predictive value in general.

931
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: But this was the team we thought maybe as the

932
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: best roster in the entire NFL going into the season.

933
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: We talked about on this podcast and there four and four.

934
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: Even their wins haven't been good though. I mean, you

935
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: look at the win over the Jets that wasn't convincing

936
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: and they barely beat the Bears, right, They've been bad

937
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: at home, They looked so choke against the Patriots. Disappointing. Greg.

938
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep them all live. Let's see save us

939
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: or if we're left smarting, I'll keep them alive. Luck

940
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: is the most important factor in a in a team schedule,

941
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: they get a little lucky, they can make a run. Alright, Greg,

942
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: nominate somebody. I will nominate and I know, uh, because

943
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: you're sitting to my left, Dan, this will be tough.

944
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: But in in Mark's idea of being a little bolder

945
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: and in predicting, I'm gonna nominate the New York Jets.

946
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: Eve been a nice story. But people making a case that, oh,

947
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: they've been playing pretty well. They've lost three out of four.

948
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: They unlike almost anyone that we're bringing up, has five losses.

949
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: So they essentially have to run the table saving one loss,

950
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: may maybe nine wins, and they probably have to go safe.

951
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying they gotta go six out of seven. They're

952
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: not a good team. They're a team that plays hard,

953
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 1: but they do nothing well. In particular. There's a reason

954
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: that they're buried on the Football Outsiders Efficiency, you know,

955
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: in the final seven or eight teams, because they're a

956
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: team that's mostly playing over their heads. And if they

957
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: play to their best ability, I think they can get

958
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: to eight wins. And so that's not enough. I don't

959
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: think they have any chance of winning six out of

960
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: seven games down the stretch. When you have what do

961
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: you have the Patriots schedules? You have the Patriots twice.

962
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: You have some possible wins, but you have the Patriots twice.

963
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: You have the cheer of the Patriots once they already bare.

964
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: They should have beaten the Patriots in that game. Weren't

965
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: for the officials, Wow, it could have been. I'm just saying,

966
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that they would have been a lock to win,

967
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: and if they closed the nuts, fine, But I'm saying

968
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: that they played the Patriots tougher than anyone have expected.

969
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: They played the Bucks this week, then get to five

970
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: and five, not a human being on the planet. The

971
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: Bucks game points proves my point I think, which is

972
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: that would anyone really be that surprised if the Jets

973
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: lost to the Bucks? Is any game a lot? I

974
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if almost any team outside of three

975
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: teams loses to anyone NFL. To me, they're best case

976
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: scenarios about eight and eight, so I'm not I would

977
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: feel totally confident. These are the teams that are ahead

978
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: of the Jets right now. The Raiders four and five

979
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: the Ravens four and five, the Dolphins four and four.

980
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: So it's like it's not like they're all out of

981
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You need to pass them and then get

982
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. All right, all right, well that's a

983
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: that's an obviously a good point. But okay, you have

984
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: the Titans, uh, their division leader. You have the Jaguars

985
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: at five and three. I'm not worried about the other teams,

986
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: worried about the Jets. I don't think the Jets are.

987
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: You couldn't have me to bring up the teams that

988
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: were in the right I have just saying there's they're

989
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: not gonna pass team because they're not gonna win enough games.

990
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: All right, that's fair. I'm obviously gonna block you, but

991
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: not because I'm a homer, and because more because I

992
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: don't believe in really of the teams in the league.

993
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: So anytime you look at the schedule, oh, it looks

994
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: like a tough schedule, it's like, we'll see, we'll see

995
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: what happens down the stretch. It's the same way that

996
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: that Mark was betting, not betting against the Bengals. To me,

997
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: they both have five losses. You just think they're not

998
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: a very good team. I think the Jets are a

999
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: better team than the Bengals. Let's start right there. And

1000
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: if the A s C could easily send an eight

1001
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: win team into the wild card round and and the Jets,

1002
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: and I know it's you can look at all the

1003
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: metrics and they're not wrong and all that stuff, but

1004
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: it's like everyone had them losing to the Bills on

1005
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Thursday night and they waxed the Bills, a team that

1006
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: we've been called beautifully coached and playing above their heads.

1007
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: If Jets take them out and they play like that

1008
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, they have a chance. That

1009
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: was the anomaly. That was by far their best game

1010
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: of the season, and we'll see if they build on

1011
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: Put it this way, I'm not with you, Greg, but

1012
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: if they do go to Tampa and lay an egg

1013
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: against Ryan Patrick, you four and then you're yeah, yeah,

1014
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: it's a team on paper that shouldn't be doing what

1015
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: it's doing right now, but it does it every week.

1016
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: It's surprising. And I think you tweeted about it, Dan,

1017
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: you said that they're a really good bad team. There

1018
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: they are, and that's so true when you watch the Bowl.

1019
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a weird year. Alright, one more time,

1020
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: we got to kind of move. Colleen has her meeting over.

1021
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: I have a meeting. I gotta go to go ahead, Mark,

1022
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: I will go Ravens and look at the Ravens. I

1023
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: will nominate the Baltimore Ravens. And it's not just that

1024
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to eliminate the entire a f C North,

1025
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: but the Ravens to me, have an unwatchable, unfixable offense. Uh.

1026
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: That one concern is in two thousand twelve, they looked

1027
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: about this bad at points and then suddenly became a

1028
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: super Bowl team. I just don't see that with this.

1029
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: I like their defense and you know, every other game basically,

1030
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: but the Ravens to me get left out of this party.

1031
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: They their offense is going to sink them. I I

1032
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: like the I like what you're going for hair Mark,

1033
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Baltimore. You want all the teams, and they

1034
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: have seen North to be as forked as the Cleveland Browns.

1035
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: That's what this is about, is well, the Browns are

1036
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: forked by like Halloween every single year that I work here,

1037
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: So I could care less about Your point being is

1038
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: that it's a terrible division. It's it's an overrated division,

1039
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: and if you just started fresh with football this year,

1040
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: people would not think highly of the Ravens the way

1041
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: that they do because of what they've done in the past,

1042
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: which is fair. Let's go around and I can't stand

1043
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: the offense. It's so boring to watch. They can't get

1044
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: anything done. This team is not playing uh in the

1045
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: second week of January, it's not happening. I'm forcing him.

1046
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: I'll keep him alive. Really, yeah, the Ravens. They have

1047
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: a defense, they have something going for him. Why not?

1048
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: Is that another shot at Mark? No, I think they

1049
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: have a good defense too, but I just like not

1050
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: a playoff team in my book, Like, well, that's the

1051
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: point is we're always looking backwards. We have no clue

1052
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: what's going to happen forward and the exercise no, I know,

1053
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: but the Ravens. The Ravens are a team that has

1054
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: showed many times that they can improve throughout the season,

1055
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: that they have a good coach, that that they have

1056
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: a defense, they have something going for them. It's they

1057
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: would need to get lucky in a really bad a

1058
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: f C. It's the same reason why Dan is keeping

1059
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: the Jets alive. To me to say that that the Jets,

1060
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: that the Ravens would have no chance to make a

1061
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a run from four and five the

1062
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: same record as the Jets, seem Jets, here's the difference

1063
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: since you brought up the Jets. The Jets may not

1064
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: do anything extremely well, but they do a lot of

1065
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: things proficiently, and that's why they've been able to hang

1066
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: in all these games. Play defense, uh, score points. They've

1067
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: been a below average defense for the season. You know

1068
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is Greg's kind of the expert here.

1069
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying the Ravens, why do by yourself? You know,

1070
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying the Ravens have an iced defense. They have

1071
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: a topic. You're not letting me finish my point, right,

1072
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: The Ravens have one of the worst offenses in football,

1073
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: and to me, that's enough for me to say they're

1074
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: just not gonna win games because they're not going to

1075
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: score enough points. They have a dreadful offense and their

1076
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: quarterback and their lack of playmakers. To me, that's a

1077
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: death knell for them. The one to go. The one

1078
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: concern I'd have and I'm forking him. Still, their schedule

1079
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: is a little light, right, That's that's the only different

1080
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: other teams are looking at the Ravens and saying the

1081
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: same thing about the Ravens. That's the only difference between

1082
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: them and the Jets is I look at them and

1083
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: I see like, Wow, they got a chance every week,

1084
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: and it's the race. I'm going out and I'm I'm

1085
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: sticking with it, and it's not happening because Greg's doesn't didn't. Yes,

1086
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: that's that's what I was I was saying, if if

1087
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: if you look at these two teams and you look

1088
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: at the schedules, I give the Ravens a chance to

1089
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: get from a four and five. It's tough to get

1090
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: from four and five to the playoffs. You pretty much

1091
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: have to get lucky every week. Alright, who's up? Is

1092
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: it all right? I'm gonna nominate the Packers. I know

1093
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I feel like this is the first year

1094
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: that you would that they would be mentioned in this segment.

1095
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: But as we talked about at the top of the show,

1096
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: the offense, they can't score points. We saw Brett Hunley,

1097
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike McCarthy had two weeks to basically put

1098
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: a game plan together here, and the game plan was

1099
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: for Hunley to just throw all the passes basically at

1100
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: or behind the line of scrimmage, and and when he

1101
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: did go deep, it was like he just held onto

1102
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: the ball so long. Like Greg said, I mean, this team,

1103
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: I have no confidence that they're going to be able

1104
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: to gain any ground in the division because now the

1105
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 1: Lions are they have the tiebreaker, and so they're even

1106
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: with the Packers now in the division with the Vikings

1107
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: on top. They play the Bears this week. I just

1108
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: I lost any faith in Yeah, I just don't think

1109
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: Hunley is gonna be able to move the team. He

1110
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: doesn't look ready for that type of responsibility. So they

1111
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: don't really have anything to hang their hat on. They

1112
00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: don't have something that gives them hope for all right,

1113
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: I will nominate the Super Bowl fifty champions, the Denver Broncos.

1114
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: Now do they have something to hang a hat on? Yeah,

1115
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: their defense, it's a great defense, but even that UH

1116
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: unit has shown some signs of slippage. And maybe that's

1117
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: all tied into the how the offense is so badly underperformed.

1118
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeons on the bench, brock Oswiler comes in and

1119
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: now apparently they're running Brock out for another start, And

1120
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't imagine that's gonna go extremely Well,

1121
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: they're three, they're three and five with the Patriots up next.

1122
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: Uh and and to me that that spells three and six.

1123
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: And then you're getting into that situation. Even if it's

1124
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: a down year where nine wins gets you in or

1125
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: even a crazier with eight, you still have to almost

1126
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: play folowless football. I don't think this team has it

1127
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: in them. So I am nominating the Denver Broncos. I

1128
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: will I will stamp that. Yes, rubber stamp, rubber stamping that.

1129
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm into it as well. I mean, especially after last

1130
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: week against the Eagles. I thought that everybody was talking

1131
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: about the defense and how great it was, and then

1132
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles carved them up. Yeah, Crazier things have happened

1133
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: than the Broncos making a run, like I don't think like,

1134
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: but you gotta pick some teams, and I don't think

1135
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: they're going to be one of those teams you picked

1136
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: their out. I wouldn't want no, wait a second, I

1137
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: don't want any like that either. It's fine, Yeah, you're

1138
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: okay with it. I'm good, Broncos done. Yeah, sorry, You've

1139
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: had a lot of nice times, Greg Carson Palmer went

1140
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: down for the season. The Cardinals season was over. They

1141
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: played you know, Lotti da You went on in San Francisco.

1142
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: Not too excited about that. There's there's almost no way

1143
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: in a better conference to imagine Drew Stanton winning enough games.

1144
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: So I nominate the Cardinals. Easy for me. I agree.

1145
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: They were definitely setting the record of four king teams

1146
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: at five or within one of Dancing with the Devil.

1147
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: There's definitely no way that all of these teams don't

1148
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I would put a sandwich on that.

1149
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: Someone beats well, we're a cross pollinating the games. I

1150
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: like it, especially after Like, I don't know Adrian Peterson,

1151
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: he looked really good this past week. I can't really

1152
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: say that he hasn't gotten out of bad sense of

1153
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: the game. But I know, I know, I'm not gonna

1154
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: fork him yet. I'm not gonna fork him yet. I

1155
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: like that Colleen a blockade. Yeah I'm blocking it. That's

1156
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: not actually how the game works. Yeah, alright, Greg, alright,

1157
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: I like Colleen's radar scenario. I love this as legs

1158
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: um alright, So the Cardinals do not get blocked all

1159
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: right here. In addition to those seven teams from earlier Browns, Niners, Giants, Colts, Bucks, Texans,

1160
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: and Bears. We add to that list three more teams

1161
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: for ten. Ten out of thirty two are done. The

1162
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, the Green Bay Packers, and the Denver Broncos

1163
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: all forked by the Round the NFL podcast. Now again,

1164
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: we can be wrong, and if we are wrong, Colleen's

1165
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: taken out her purse, one of those big giant mom

1166
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: pocketbooks from the eighties, and she'll dig out her check

1167
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: book and she'll cut a big one. Yep, I'm basically

1168
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: new money. Now. Chargers and Raiders didn't even get mentioned. Yeah,

1169
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: Chargers and Raiders. We we kind of discussed. We ran

1170
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: out of time, kind of ran out of time, but uh,

1171
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: we all like them and the Raiders. Colleen's gotta go.

1172
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: And Christian Anderson behind the glass a very almost a

1173
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: strangely passionate endorsement in terms of let's get the Seahawks

1174
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: um forked in week nine, which is just a wild,

1175
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: wild thing going on. I would still they were my

1176
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl pick. I would still stick with that. Why not, Christian?

1177
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: Do you want to explain the mania behind that that push? Well,

1178
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: I know it's Greg's game. But I thought this was

1179
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: an instance where you're supposed to kind of go out

1180
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: on a limb and not just use Mars Brown. So

1181
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: I thought the team that perhaps down the stretch is

1182
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna have some trouble. A team that has to play

1183
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles at Jacksonville at Dallas against the Rams and

1184
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: the mess go down the field in thirty five seconds

1185
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: in four plays, the legion of Boom is no more. Oh,

1186
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I like that question. That's a

1187
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: playoff rount you just mentioned for the Seattle now Christian?

1188
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: Just one more thing though, yes, um, because I know

1189
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: you've already made your formal nomination. Yes, do you honestly

1190
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: believe the Seahawks have no chance of making the playoffs?

1191
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: I think they have a chance. I just think their

1192
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: chances there's not as great as some people make them.

1193
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: So it's more like an onion hanger. If they have

1194
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: a chance, then you don't for them. Although then we

1195
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: get really down the weeds, because do we really believe

1196
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: none of these teams have even the smallest and of

1197
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: course we I sincerely believe all these teams are dead.

1198
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: Maybe the Boom Dan, you know, I know you're a

1199
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: music guy. Maybe they should be sub pop out of

1200
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: Seattle because they've lost it. Yeah, they're not no longer

1201
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: a major label. Uh. It's like when Nirvana went to

1202
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: what was it again? In records? Yes, although some people

1203
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: would probably say Nirvana was better when they were subpop.

1204
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean bleach little bleach talk on the but like this,

1205
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: we've bled into an entirely different production. Alright, Christian, Uh

1206
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: that that was not accepted as a nomination to the

1207
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: Greater Group, But I think it was important that you're

1208
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: you got your voice there because we admired it. The

1209
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, the onions involved, that's all Christian Anderson mind

1210
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: the best, doesn't Anyone that wants to get up Seahawks Twitter,

1211
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, has my sympathy. You have a Twitter handle

1212
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks fans can't get at you on. You

1213
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: can find me a Chris Anderson sixty s e N

1214
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: like Hans christ bring it right, yeah, and with your

1215
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: little tweets and Seattle Northwest, I like the Seahawks. No, no,

1216
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: you can't comments by you. You're not. There's no saving

1217
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: you understood the A t N video show that Christian Anderson.

1218
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: So finally produces for us. Will go up live on

1219
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: our website tonight, Uh, Tuesday at you would think I

1220
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: would remember, this isn't nine. I believe it's sixty Western

1221
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: time or Pacific time in Western th old Western time,

1222
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: six thirty Pacific time, nine thirty Eastern time overseas. That's

1223
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: your problem, not at So let's good the way we

1224
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: arranged that they miss at least half the show. All right,

1225
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: So here we go started over. It is nine pm Eastern,

1226
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: six pm Pacific overseas. Still a major logistical problem for

1227
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: you half an hour before what you would have had

1228
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: to figure out initially, all right, and so check that

1229
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: out the A t N Video Show. It's our Tuesday

1230
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: show every week. It's uh, it's up on the website

1231
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: and we'll be back on Thursday. We will recap the

1232
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: game that we previewed today and then go into a

1233
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: breakdown of all the games in week. Ted Mark mark

1234
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: just about over the season. Now we're just you know,

1235
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: we're going into the final home stretch. I think now

1236
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: we are at the midpoint. Everyone is so in love

1237
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: with I think it's about now. It's maybe after this

1238
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: week is the midpoint or after next week? Okay, it's

1239
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: a little confusing, a lot of confusing things on today's show.

1240
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: Let's let's end it, Let's let's let's move forward. That's

1241
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: a great stand. Handsas signing off for Quiet Storm, The

1242
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: Tiny Box, Yo Boss, Christian Anderson behind the Glass and

1243
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: Lindsay fault On. It's out Thursday,