WEBVTT - Ep 342: Defining Your Own Ambition

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, Hey, Yes, we're bad. We're Black Mountain Ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>Ambition is Ambition Studio. Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I feel so happy to actually have a regular

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<v Speaker 2>voice again. I'm sure. I'm sure y'all are y'all are

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<v Speaker 2>sick and tired of listening to me be sick and tired.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's so good to see you again. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to write solo last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's all. Yeah, I honestly, I was still in Kenya.

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<v Speaker 2>Witch.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something, Mandy, let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Kenya and the girls were going up

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<v Speaker 3>for Brown Ambition. The Kenyan girls in Kenya. They were like, Tam, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm terrible with access. I love her. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, yes, can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tour?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>When I tell you, I couldn't believe, not one not

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<v Speaker 1>to that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I couldn't believe how many women were like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I love you, Budjanista. I listened to

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<v Speaker 3>brand ambishon all the time. I'm like, and I'm thinking, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're here on the trip with us. You live in

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<v Speaker 3>the US, but you just have to be Kenyan. They're like, no, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I live in Kenya. I'm like, wait, you listened to

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<v Speaker 3>Brown and Mission here on the Motherland at Kenya.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, yes, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't, honestly, I said, wait till I tell Mandy.

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<v Speaker 3>So shout out to you Kenyan women.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Kenya is popping, like a lot of people are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Nairobi and she's like having this whole renaissance and

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<v Speaker 2>like such a great prid to live. Is that where

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<v Speaker 2>you were?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was in Nairobi and also to oh I

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<v Speaker 3>flew to we flew to the coach. So I went

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<v Speaker 3>on this trip called the Safe Journey Retreat that's done

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<v Speaker 3>by Ijoma Kola.

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<v Speaker 1>She is Nigerian.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually grew up together and her husband is Kenyan

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<v Speaker 3>and so she she moved to Kenya, Kenya after marrying

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<v Speaker 3>him and they now is back in the States. But

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<v Speaker 3>she went loved it was like the girls have to

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<v Speaker 3>come out here. So she has this black woman retreat.

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<v Speaker 3>This was their first one and she asked me to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>It was maybe like four or five other speakers. But

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<v Speaker 3>when I tell you, the sisterhood, it was the perfect

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<v Speaker 3>way to start the new year because I was there

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<v Speaker 3>from the first to the ten, so ten days and

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<v Speaker 3>to be surrounded by amazing, kind, loving, funny, multifaceted Black women.

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<v Speaker 3>So each a herself is a PhD. So she also

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<v Speaker 3>has this Black woman PhD community group that she started,

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<v Speaker 3>so so many of the women there were also PhD.

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<v Speaker 3>So these brilliant but then you know, black women brilliant,

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<v Speaker 3>but also like, girl, let me change something. It was

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<v Speaker 3>it was when I tell you everything. And then Kenya

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<v Speaker 3>itself was most places I go and I'm like that

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<v Speaker 3>was great, but I'm gonna go someplace else because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, time is money. But Kenya I would go

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<v Speaker 3>back again so much, so I would go back again

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<v Speaker 3>this year because to Nairobi was amazing. All the hotels

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<v Speaker 3>dy and were amazing. You know, we got to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the museum, we did it so far, which was

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<v Speaker 3>out of this world. And then we flew into Kenya

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<v Speaker 3>to the coast. I think it started with the ann Milani.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm staying it wrong, but that hotel it looked.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a I don't even know, like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Moroccan castle and it was right on the beach. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just every turn was so beautiful. I just honestly

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<v Speaker 3>not even a ten out of ten a twenty out

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<v Speaker 3>of ten. It restored, it rejuvenated, It just did all

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<v Speaker 3>the things that I needed and more because it was

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<v Speaker 3>the holiday season, if I'm being honest, was really really

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<v Speaker 3>hard for me this holiday season. It really hit me

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<v Speaker 3>that Jirell wasn't here, and it took me out. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I was like dark room, laying in the bed, could

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<v Speaker 3>barely get up, didn't want to shower, I didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to brush my teeth, and I didn't even want to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Kenya honestly, Like I didn't pack until like

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<v Speaker 3>the day before, you know, and I dragged myself to

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<v Speaker 3>the airport, and it poured back into me everything I

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<v Speaker 3>needed and more. And so like if she ever has

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<v Speaker 3>that retreat again, I recommended had times a thousand, not

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<v Speaker 3>just for the women, but also have the planned Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, like I don't know what I

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<v Speaker 3>would have done honestly, because it was it really took

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<v Speaker 3>me out. So yeah, I'm just so grateful, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so happy to be back. And yes, the Kenyan women

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<v Speaker 3>go up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my brother's hope is that we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>my little brother. He's like you me, Dad, were going

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<v Speaker 2>to make a trip to he wants to do Kenya

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<v Speaker 2>or South Africa in I was like twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got the baby's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, the baby is coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just heard his little heartbeat this morning. He's in

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<v Speaker 2>there kicking on my bladder. Let me know he's there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited. Yeah I am, I'm almost. I have

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<v Speaker 2>had lunch with a friend. Remember we talked about before

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<v Speaker 2>the for like our New Year's episode. We were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about our intentions for the New year, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>one of the themes that really resonated was the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of making time to reconnect. So like you and me,

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<v Speaker 2>we need some time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I saw one of my oldest girlfriends who

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't seen since August, which is a damn shame.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to like you know, when you work together

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<v Speaker 2>in your twenties. We were just like a cubicle away

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<v Speaker 2>and we were in each other's business. You know. All

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<v Speaker 2>I knew everything I knew is she ate for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew how she was feeling about the weather, like everything,

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<v Speaker 2>And now I just found out she had shingles, She

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<v Speaker 2>had a whole illness. Yeah, well, you know we were

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<v Speaker 2>catching up, but like she had COVID and then shingles,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, yeah, I have flu and bronchitis and

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff was happening, new jobs and stuff, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was so lovely and I got to go to city

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<v Speaker 2>and felt it felt really good to start reconnecting with

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<v Speaker 2>just new friends and not new friends old friends. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, and I'm trying to get it all done,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, before May, because I got this ticking, this

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<v Speaker 2>ticking clock, and we planned speaking up. We're planning like

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<v Speaker 2>a little baby moon, which will be our first time

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<v Speaker 2>traveling anywhere since twenty nineteen. Like it's pretty sad, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to Costa Rica.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh excited. I love It's very beautiful and lush.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want nature and quiet. And I feel kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like I feel I need twinge of guilt that

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<v Speaker 2>Rio is gonna miss out, but like it'll be okay,

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be fine. He'll see the slots another time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus he's still really because how old is Rio?

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<v Speaker 2>He's three?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's like the kind of vacation that he

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<v Speaker 3>might remember, like a general thing, but not the specific

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<v Speaker 3>things anyway. So it's like I'll give you one more

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<v Speaker 3>year before You're like, I remember, I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Hardly take two hours on a plane to Atlanta. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how I would do five and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But I saw some like I wanted to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we used to do Buzzworthy back.

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<v Speaker 1>In the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I wondered if we can bring back brown Ambition buzz.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, the ba buzz. Let's call it the

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<v Speaker 2>ba buzz. There's a lot that's been going on, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>first do we need to we have to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen? And and Happy MLK Day everybody? That

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<v Speaker 2>was we're recording on Tuesday. It was yesterday. But have

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<v Speaker 2>you seen the statue in Boston the new Cure?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I saw the picture was based off of

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<v Speaker 3>but I was like, what is giving?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate myself because it's like I want I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>of those people who I want to appreciate artists, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their work and all the time and all that. But

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<v Speaker 2>my husband, I didn't really know there was a new

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<v Speaker 2>statue I was going to be unveiled, but all like

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<v Speaker 2>my husband just like puts his phone in front of

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<v Speaker 2>my face and he's like, what do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 2>And we're we were potty training Rio this weekend, and

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<v Speaker 2>all I can think of is is that a like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is that gold turd?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I looking at here? It was so and

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<v Speaker 2>then I felt so horrible when I learned what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that thing, it's causing a lot of controversy

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<v Speaker 2>because it looks like a sexual act. Yes, I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful because I'm just like, how many people did that

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<v Speaker 3>have to go through for it to be made?

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<v Speaker 2>And no one said, that's exactly what our producer Emani said.

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<v Speaker 2>No one said pick somebody else the sketches. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>had to make like a little mini mirror of means

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<v Speaker 2>of course they did. Yeah, I mean, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>do now? You can't there's no overturn.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I'm like, this massive, it's just phallic symbol. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe need to see it in person, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>the right angle. But uh, why just the arms in

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<v Speaker 2>the hands? Why know torsos or there were heads? I

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<v Speaker 2>just do. It's gotta be really awkward to be at

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<v Speaker 2>MLK descendant.

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<v Speaker 4>I know they're really like, okay, thank you, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 4>So we want to know y'all's thoughts on the new

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<v Speaker 4>MLK statue.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be the kind of person who can

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<v Speaker 2>find beauty and anything, and like, I just feel bad

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<v Speaker 2>for the artists because God, like, you know, he put

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<v Speaker 2>his whole life on hold for that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>art isn't the eye of the beholder or whatever they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Some good news though, so inflation is it's gotten so bad,

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<v Speaker 2>like the cost of groceries and especially eating out. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't even look at door Dash or Uber Eats without

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<v Speaker 2>spending seventy five dollars. It feels like I'm just a

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<v Speaker 2>regular meal. So I even took my butt to Costco

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, we're gonna be buying in bulk.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a new day, it's a new life. I'm feeling good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, good news is that apparently customers, like consumers,

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<v Speaker 2>we have been changing our shopping habits. Finally it's like

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<v Speaker 2>gotten too expensive, and businesses are finally like, okay, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna slow down the price hikes and in some cases

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<v Speaker 2>either going back on them. But it seems like most businesses,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the Wall Street Journal, are just ceasing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>additional price hikes. So hopefully a carton of eggs ain't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna cost girl you know, twelve dollars anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we can't eat eggs around here, that's what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>We ain't eating them eggs, but we're gonna have chicks

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<v Speaker 3>to the back, like girl produced, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>How much could it cost to have a chicken? I

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<v Speaker 2>felt so bad. We went to Enrique's my husband's moms

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<v Speaker 2>for I don't know, like lunch the other day, and

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<v Speaker 2>Rio loves making eggs. He's not always interested in eating them.

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<v Speaker 2>And she got the fancy you know, the cage free

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<v Speaker 2>or and he made her make four of them join up.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did not eat a single egg. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Myra, do you need twenty dollars like all

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<v Speaker 2>paint for these eggs? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Here, these fancy kids. He's like from gold dust on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Myra, get one of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the blue styrofoam eggs, girl, like, you know, the cheap ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, get some of them for him to

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<v Speaker 2>play with next time. Yeah, oh god. Oh. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I caught a little bit of the Golden Globes just

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<v Speaker 2>because randomly someone was like tweeting about it. But black

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<v Speaker 2>people this Award season in Hollywood were cleaning up cleaning up.

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<v Speaker 2>Have any speeches or any winds touched your heart?

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<v Speaker 3>What I didn't see? I mean, I'm so glad for Quinta.

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<v Speaker 3>Quinta is really like slang. I love that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>love because you know, I remember Quinta from Oh he

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<v Speaker 3>got money from her?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, like what I can get on my popcorn got

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<v Speaker 1>I remember her from that?

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<v Speaker 3>So she I just love to see this for he

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<v Speaker 3>of course, who does not love the incomparable Cherylie Rolf

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<v Speaker 3>because she's fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was sad she didn't win the Golden Globe

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<v Speaker 2>because we didn't get a shiry Lee Ralph's speech, but

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<v Speaker 2>then she won something else, like it was Critics Choice Award. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen that clip that's going viral.

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<v Speaker 1>With the one about that Kim Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 2>No, oh that one too, but no that was Golden Globes.

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<v Speaker 2>No this one. She's like giving the speech and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about you. We should

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<v Speaker 2>just play a clip because I'm not going to do

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<v Speaker 2>her justice at all. But basically, it's like, you better

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<v Speaker 2>love what you see in the mirror. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>when anyone else you know thinks about you. Is really moving.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, No, I love that, honestly, I just I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>really I just love to see that people are getting

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that people are getting appreciated while they're still here,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so I just love to see that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean because Charlie, she says she's been

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<v Speaker 3>an icon, I mean, from Dreamgirls to I think she

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<v Speaker 3>woned like miss Jamaica Toshau's mama.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd been out here. Yeah, so she ain't new to this,

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<v Speaker 1>She's true to this.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's nice for the bigger I mean, the black

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<v Speaker 3>girl we knew we were like girl, not not Ryl.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but you know, sorry miss Lee Ralph because you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're grown. But you know what I mean. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love when people kind of get a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>To cross over and become household names.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you're wanting, you know what I mean, Because

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<v Speaker 3>not everybody's wanting that, you know, but that's what you're wanting.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm loving that she's getting kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>this turn to be seen and appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that, and the girls are loving what's

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<v Speaker 2>his face? What's this? Tyler? James Williams the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>plays mister m As.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like Abbat?

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I don't watch TV, so wait, I know

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<v Speaker 3>you know what. You don't even shame me, but on

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<v Speaker 3>stream I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't read books.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just I've been doing a lot of walking.

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<v Speaker 3>I just because I got out of the habit of

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<v Speaker 3>watching TV when I started the Budgeonessa because who had time.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's hard for me to get back in

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<v Speaker 3>the happen because I get so bored so easily. So

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<v Speaker 3>I watch the little clips here and there, so like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't shame me, and I'm actually like act tonight, I

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<v Speaker 3>told myself, I'm taking myself out on a date, me,

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<v Speaker 3>myself and I, the three of us, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go see Black Panther.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it. Don't get nobody either.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I haven't because me like a pole babysitter

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<v Speaker 2>to see it, and then the times are always so

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<v Speaker 2>inconvenient for babysitter hours. Yeah, no, I'm I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for it to come on streaming. I gave up.

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<v Speaker 3>I said I was gonna but I said, you know what, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 3>go outside, girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Glass slide. I said, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna actually gonna treat myself to one of the

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<v Speaker 3>dining theaters. Girl were gonna be fancy in the WHOA

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<v Speaker 3>love those girls. So have you seen me out on

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<v Speaker 3>about and You're like, ooh, she with other people? It's

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<v Speaker 3>myself and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, damn it. So I'm gonna have to cross off

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<v Speaker 2>below deck discussion from my list of buzzworthy because I've

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<v Speaker 2>been obsessed with below deck, y'all, it's so messy and delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Uh an employee and employment news. Well, one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I just wanted to like, I had a coaching session.

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<v Speaker 2>I sometimes this is off the record except for you

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<v Speaker 2>guys when women are let go from their jobs. And like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I've ever given you a coaching session, if you

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to me, I'm probably going to offer pro

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<v Speaker 2>bono coaching session if you've been let go. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I met this young woman earlier today and she had

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<v Speaker 2>been let go from a big tech company. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to put her business out there, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people were let go from this tech company

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<v Speaker 2>and she was so down. I mean, obviously it's it

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<v Speaker 2>sucks because these layups have been happening, you know, right

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<v Speaker 2>around the holidays, and it really broke my heart because

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<v Speaker 2>she's the second, no, the third woman who I've met

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<v Speaker 2>who was let go the same year that they made

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<v Speaker 2>the change to that new job. And the sense of like,

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<v Speaker 2>when it's hard enough to take a career risk, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and to move new to move new jobs and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, and sometimes we forget like there's this element

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<v Speaker 2>of shame to being let go and then let and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have this fear that if people you used

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<v Speaker 2>to work with find out that they're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>like they're going to be judgmental about it, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you were all, you know, cool because you got a

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<v Speaker 2>job at this big tech company. And to hear her,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she got she was getting emotional about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I was suggesting that she posts on

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<v Speaker 2>LinkedIn and announces that she's open to work and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, but there was this like she really didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do it, and she's just in the thick

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<v Speaker 2>of that job search. And so it just reminded me

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<v Speaker 2>that all these statistics about like layoffs and even though

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<v Speaker 2>the job market is still strong, there are people suffering

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<v Speaker 2>from like long term unemployment and long term job searching

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<v Speaker 2>out there, and so I just want to like acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>that and say, you know, if you're feeling shame about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope that you can be compassionate for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so not alone, and I feel like there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much I was trying to tell her. There's more to

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<v Speaker 2>be gained by telling that story and sharing it, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe than any potential downside of maybe someone passing a

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<v Speaker 2>judgmental you know, thought about you, Because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't share it or talk about it sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you then open yourself up to the help

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<v Speaker 2>and support of other people. So that was on my

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<v Speaker 2>spirit today.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I could just save in lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I saved your life in half

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<v Speaker 2>an hour, but I made her you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's just like sometimes you just need that person

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<v Speaker 3>to like, you know, pour into you, encourage you.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I love that you did.

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<v Speaker 2>That for her. Yeah. Please, I mean I'm coming from

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<v Speaker 2>the person who quit a job, didn't take a job,

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<v Speaker 2>came back six months later begging for the same job,

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<v Speaker 2>got the job, got a new job, and quit a

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<v Speaker 2>month later, and then got laid off from that job

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<v Speaker 2>that she quit for. That's my story.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, don't talk to like. I've been there, I've

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<v Speaker 2>taken their risks, I've fallen on my ass and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, you know, it's okay, all right. And our

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<v Speaker 2>last little news nugget is that if you heard you

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<v Speaker 2>know what non competes are, you probably do because you

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<v Speaker 2>probably have. Yeah, we so the fts Yeah, and like

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<v Speaker 2>non competes for employees, they can really stop you from

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<v Speaker 2>being able to work for other big places or like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, navigate your career strategically because your company may

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<v Speaker 2>have a non compete saying you can't work for any

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<v Speaker 2>other fer months like ours, and if you do, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really specific work that could limit your opportunities. So the

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<v Speaker 2>FTC good news. The FTC is like pushing to ban

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<v Speaker 2>non competes and employers are losing their damn minds.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here's my take.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I can see like not if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>working for me anymore, okay, but I don't want someone

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<v Speaker 3>who is simultaneously because sometimes people have side hustles, which

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<v Speaker 3>I encourage, but don't side hustle with. Like, although I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna say I have a competitor or whatever, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? So because that's not really but

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what I mean? Because there a definitely

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<v Speaker 3>some point where I'm just like, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>want someone working with me and then also working with

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<v Speaker 3>someone you know what, that's actually true. For example, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 3>my publicays, came to me and said, Hey, Tiffany, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got this potential client. She reached out to me, wants

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<v Speaker 3>to work with me. But she asked, would this compete

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<v Speaker 3>with your client the bunch of Nista, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>probably not because she's Tracy has worked with other financial

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<v Speaker 3>brands before. But then when she described a woman, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, actually that is what I do, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because for example, she's worked with people who only talk

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<v Speaker 3>about investing. No problem because I might cover it lightly,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's I'm not to invest Innista. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>more of a if I'm going to be on TV

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. As far as a poblicist is concerned, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a generalist. People have me come on a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of credit, a little bit of this, a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of that, you know, And so if someone is highly

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<v Speaker 3>specialized in the thing, then no, that's not a compete,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it's personal finance, you know, or like let's

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<v Speaker 3>just say, for example, she worked with Tanya from Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I forget what it was called before, but she has

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<v Speaker 3>like a kid's app, a kid's in money app. I

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<v Speaker 3>forget it was called something else before, but it has

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<v Speaker 3>a new name now. Anyway, Tanya Vancourt. She's got this

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<v Speaker 3>awesome app that helps kids like save money and put

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<v Speaker 3>money away whatever. So even though Tanya has financial education,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a specific she's specifically for kids and the

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<v Speaker 3>specific app no problem. But like I said, this other

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<v Speaker 3>person was really kind of like a generalist.

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<v Speaker 1>And after when she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was describing it, because I told her, I said, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to think to yourself, if you're going to pitch her,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you pitching her. Is it for a specific

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<v Speaker 3>thing or is it for she can do what Tiffany

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<v Speaker 3>does basically? And so we both talked about it and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm glad that that woman, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>had to Wherewithal was like, think about it before we

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<v Speaker 3>move forward, and I was just like, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah to her credit, like she also would want

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<v Speaker 2>a publicist, you can focus on her pitching her, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And Tracy, I mean not only is your publishers also

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<v Speaker 2>your sister. And I'm like, yes, she's gonna know that

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<v Speaker 2>it will be weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But try to say because I'm my pa says, people

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<v Speaker 1>just think that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know, girl, whatever, but you know because because

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<v Speaker 3>she's you're right, because because here's the thing. If I'm

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<v Speaker 3>being honest, if she's going to pitch, you know who

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<v Speaker 3>who is she pitching? You know, like, if they're pitching

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<v Speaker 3>the both of us, you know, not to flex. But

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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing it longer, so today Sho's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>like Tiffany, but he just had it a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago. Yeah, Tiffany, you know, to me, it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually be fair to her because if she's going to pitch,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so yeah, so I just thought that that

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<v Speaker 3>was really you know, like that, I like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not opposed to non compete. If it's like you

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<v Speaker 3>are currently working with me, I don't think that you

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<v Speaker 3>should be working with someone who does exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're not currently working with me, then you know, like, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>that's your business, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, right, But it's about that like trade secret. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how can you stop people from sharing what they learned

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<v Speaker 2>at a Facebook with a snapchat, you know, if they can't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's all that. So I just I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder, I wonder what because that's like the golden

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<v Speaker 2>handcuffs a little bit. That's why they give you like

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<v Speaker 2>sweet equity and stuff. And then they have the non compete,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like this like carrot and the stick a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. That's the stick, like if you leave us,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to come for you. And you have seen

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<v Speaker 2>people get sued, you know, and lost their jobs because

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<v Speaker 2>they got a new job. And then they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to go against that big corporation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a fine for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there should be some moderation with it because

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<v Speaker 3>I can understand as a company, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I had somebody on my team that was doing

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<v Speaker 3>that secretly working for like someone who did the exact

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<v Speaker 3>same thing and feeding them everything we were doing. What

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't know is sauce sold separately, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because honest see, the sauce is sold separately. So when

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<v Speaker 3>I found out, I let them go, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not cool. But when I saw how I was

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<v Speaker 3>looking on the new person. I was like, well, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>She gave you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, girl, it's not looking the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Sen it's because it's a different you know, it navigates

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<v Speaker 3>differently on other people. But I just didn't like that,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, kind of like secret back backyard dealing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because we're literally sometimes we're working through things,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're you're, you know, you're bringing it to someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like, oh no, girl, you can't stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I definitely have seen it both ways, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the sauce, just to be clear. So so all right,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's it for the brown buzz probably wait ba

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<v Speaker 2>buzz the ba buzz.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that?

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<v Speaker 2>Really getting back to my uh set, my twelve year

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<v Speaker 2>old run the school paper roots here. Oh god, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's take a quick break and come back with Brown

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<v Speaker 2>Boosts Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>Break and We're Bad and We're Black fun for Boost

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<v Speaker 3>to Break, the Boost to Break.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Oh I forgot, Oh I forgot the song already.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were bringing us into a new year

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<v Speaker 3>with a new beat. Girl, I forgot the song the

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<v Speaker 3>are we gonna boost? I was talking about are we

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<v Speaker 3>gonna break? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at me? My bootstop, break up, boost stop break

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to boost? Are we going to break?

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<v Speaker 2>Which?

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<v Speaker 1>Which are you gonna take? I don't remember anyway, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we boosting, we break in. You want to go first? Second? Manager?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to go first? But I got my boost?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have a boost too.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the things we did in Kenya that

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<v Speaker 3>was so transformative for me, because the whole trip was

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<v Speaker 3>amazing is that we did a service project at this

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<v Speaker 3>place called Wings, Wings for Hope.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what it's called, Yes, Wings for Hope,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a.

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<v Speaker 3>A shelter of some sort, but like a compound, because

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<v Speaker 3>like a series of buildings for young teen moms.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the girls were as young as twelve years

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<v Speaker 1>old and pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, all of them obviously had been taken care of,

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<v Speaker 3>taken advantage of, because you know, you can't be twelve

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<v Speaker 3>and consenting to whom, you know, But honestly, most of

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<v Speaker 3>them had been oh well, all of them had been

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<v Speaker 3>kind of disowned or thrown away by their family as

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<v Speaker 3>a result of the pregnancy. And some of them were

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<v Speaker 3>even you know, taking advantage of. And this is just

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you might want to fast forward if

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be triggering. I should have had

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<v Speaker 3>a trigger warning, but had been taking advantage of by

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<v Speaker 3>their own fathers and were carrying their father's babies.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really heavy, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, I mean, you know, eleven, twelve, thirty,

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<v Speaker 3>I just and so.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was there, I mean, we were.

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<v Speaker 3>All fighting tears because it just was so heavy. And

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<v Speaker 3>the angels that run It's a husband and wife they

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<v Speaker 3>met while kind of doing the work. The wife was

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<v Speaker 3>a nurse, and she said that baby would come into

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital that had been found thrown away in trash bags,

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<v Speaker 3>hidden in bushes. Yeah, and she was like, where are yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Mandy, yes, and she just was like, where's okay?

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.479
<v Speaker 3>But where are these babies coming from? And so as

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<v Speaker 3>they started to like the husband was volunteering at the hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>It was at the time it was just a guy,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like volunteer at the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>And she.

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<v Speaker 3>After doing more research, she found out that it was

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<v Speaker 3>these t young teen girls that were doing this, that

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<v Speaker 3>the large variority of these babies that were coming to

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital were as a result of these young young

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<v Speaker 3>girls who were like I don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twelve, so.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, which I think is so beautiful. How do

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<v Speaker 3>we solve the issue. It's not just like taking care

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<v Speaker 3>of the baby that when it gets here, can we

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<v Speaker 3>take care of that girl? And so they created this

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful place for the girls, Wings for Hope, where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when they find out a girl's been kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>thrown out of her family as a result, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as much as they can, they take them in here

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<v Speaker 3>and then look after them, give them food, shelter, they

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<v Speaker 3>get therapy, they get you know, education, they pay for school,

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 3>they do all these things and based upon all like

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<v Speaker 3>donations and things. And so one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>I said Kenya was restorative is because before I left,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, I was drowning in the grief. And

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<v Speaker 3>this going here like reminded me a lesson that doctor Green,

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<v Speaker 3>my amazing black therapist, told me a few months after

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<v Speaker 3>Drill passed away. And because I kept saying, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the worst thing that could have ever happened, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the worst thing that could have ever happened, And then

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<v Speaker 3>one day she said, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Tiffany and I wanted to jump through the zoom and

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<v Speaker 3>rock and sock with her, cause I was like, what

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 3>are you talking about? Of course it is, you know,

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, and so because what she was saying, your

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<v Speaker 3>parents are still here, your sisters in Roman and Amelia

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 3>and Lily, and but at the time I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>and am I trying to hear all that it is

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<v Speaker 3>the worst thing?

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<v Speaker 4>And so.

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<v Speaker 3>But this sitting in this compound, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 3>girls and this amazing husband and wife team, It's like

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<v Speaker 3>there was a huge prospective shift and it wasn't trauma

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 3>comparison that instead it opened up for me to see

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<v Speaker 3>that like is it the worst thing that could have

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 3>happened to you, Tiffany, Meaning like is it just grief

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<v Speaker 3>that you're experiencing in your life or is there so

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<v Speaker 3>many things to be grateful for?

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And it was literally like a line in the sand

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 3>of the before Tiffany and the after Tiffany. And I

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 3>said to myself like I was talking to doctor Green

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<v Speaker 3>about it, like, you know, and she was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it was a transformation for you because you

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<v Speaker 3>got to feel simultaneously or your grief but also acknowledge

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 3>the other grief of the people in that room alongside

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 3>of you. Without detracting or adding to the grief that

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<v Speaker 3>you're holding. And then on the third part, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what can we do to help? And so one of

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 3>the best ways for anyone to kind of get out

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 3>of the situation is always education. And so we were

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 3>asking them, like, you know, how much does it cost

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<v Speaker 3>for like a year to like, you know, there's about

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<v Speaker 3>maybe twenty twenty five girls there, because in Africa in

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<v Speaker 3>many places, although school is free, you have to pay

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>a school fee to go to the next level. So

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 3>you take your exams in order to get those exam grades,

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 3>you have to pay a fee. And for all the girls,

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty twenty five girls, it's you know, there's a fee,

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 3>and so it's maybe like fifteen thousand dollars for the year.

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 3>And I said, okay, that I'm going to pay that,

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 3>and you know, maybe the year after and the year

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 3>after and in the year after. And so it was

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 3>like doctor Green was like, I don't think you realized

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 3>what you've unlocked in yourself, Tiffany. And then you can

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 3>acknowledge your grief, you can acknowledge that it's part of

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 3>a larger like grief that is in that room, and

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 3>then you can even from a place of your own sadness,

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 3>say I want to help with somebody else.

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>She was like, that's a huge transition. I hope you

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>recognize that.

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 3>And so it was just when I say so transformat

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 3>in it just felt like such a joy to be

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 3>able to do that. And so I just yeah, like,

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping that Wings for Hope will like start like

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 3>a because they're a nonprofit in Kenya. They're not based

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 3>in the United States, and hope they'll have like an

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, like some sort of arm here so.

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>People can donate and give.

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Because so I exchanged emails with the oldest girl there

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 3>him as say, she's in school in college New Alsara

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 3>is twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a seven year old.

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, and you know, but to see I could

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 3>see the joy in her, and she was sharing how

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 3>she tries to come back from school as much as

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 3>possible to help the younger ones because some of the

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 3>younger ones are having such a hard time, you know,

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 3>they have to stop them from harming their babies sometimes

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 3>because they don't know what's going on. And so she

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 3>but I could see the joy in her, I could

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 3>see how happy her son was. And I asked her,

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 3>because you know, sometimes you have these facilities and you're like,

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 3>is it really good, because sometimes it's more it's worse

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 3>than where they came from. And she was like, they

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 3>love us so well here, Tiffany, they love us so well.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I would have done. And so yeah,

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm just committed to like that type of service. You know.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I certainly I've lived my life in service and teaching

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 3>and even the BUNCHONISA does an active service and every

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 3>but this is more concrete for me, and so just

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 3>looking for opportunities to do this. It just yeah, So

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 3>that is I mean, I know, I hopefully it's not

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 3>a Debbie Dowter for y'all, but it just it up

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 3>did me so much to know that like I can

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 3>participate in like helping making these like because they look

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 3>like me, these they are us, these little black girls.

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 3>That's just me, just a different circumstance or situation. And

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 3>so so yeah, that is my brown boost wings for Hope.

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for the amazing really just amazing

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 3>miracle work that you do with these beautiful girls. And

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, in the ways I can help and I

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 3>find more ways that I'm sure you guys are like

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 3>I want to help. When I find more ways, I

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 3>will share them with you because I just think that, like, yeah,

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 3>because they want to have they want to be at capacity,

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 3>they want to be at sixty girls, but they can't

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 3>currently afford it. They don't even have enough beds. And

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 3>so we're all like kind of working together and figure

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 3>out what does that look like? How do we help

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 3>so more girls are not left in the dangerous situation.

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>They have a safe place to be.

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's also a beautiful message of when you travel,

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>just leaving a place better, like even a little bit better,

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, than the way you found it. And even

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>that impulse for me is to cringe and to look

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>away from a story like that, but it doesn't stop

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>the story from being true and those girls needing help.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 2>So I love hearing stories like that and the spin

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>is okay, it's a tragedy, but then what good can

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>come of it? And what can you do? That is beautiful? Yeah,

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I got to put Kenny on the list for sure,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the huge list of where I need to go. All right, well,

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll do a quick little I'll take my bigger boosts

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<v Speaker 2>and do my quick little one, my little backup boost

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to. I read this article in Fortune just

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<v Speaker 2>today and I thought it was so powerful. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic killed my Ambition and here's how I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>it back. And I thought it was such a I

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<v Speaker 2>won't read the whole I'm gonna read the whole article,

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<v Speaker 2>but I love it because this is the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>conversation I'm having all the time with my BANDI money Makers,

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<v Speaker 2>about like redefining ambition on our own terms, and where

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<v Speaker 2>does the ambition like where can we embrace our ambition

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<v Speaker 2>and our want to learn more and always be growing

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, developing and all that, and where does

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<v Speaker 2>that fall with also wanting a softer life and not

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to grind ourselves into the dust. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>happy to see an article like this, And we'll post

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<v Speaker 2>a link in the show notes because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this is it. It's really up to us how we

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<v Speaker 2>define ambition. And I mean, for a show called Brown Ambition,

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<v Speaker 2>what I hope is we can define it in such

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<v Speaker 2>a way that it gives you time to reflect on

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<v Speaker 2>what it is that you're striving for and not just what,

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<v Speaker 2>but why, like the why behind why you're ambitious about

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<v Speaker 2>a certain opportunity or a certain you know, moving up

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<v Speaker 2>in a certain way, and just taking time to reflect

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<v Speaker 2>and personally, like, when I approach twenty twenty three, I

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<v Speaker 2>have these I do have these big goals for Mandy money,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel this ticking clock of there's a baby

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<v Speaker 2>coming and I have to I got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>shit to do before I go on maternity leave and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. But these first few weeks of the new year,

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<v Speaker 2>I have found myself just like really slowing down and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to think thoughtfully before just rushing into things, and

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to be intentional about what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing instead of just going all in, burning myself out,

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<v Speaker 2>so that I can, like what skin across the finish

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<v Speaker 2>line into the labor and delivery room and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thank God to have a break, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a free a freeze, not a free day at a hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be like that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to I want to have some energy left, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for having two little ones at home. So I'll post

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<v Speaker 2>a link to that. But if you're struggling with that,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like women are. If you're struggling with the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of how can I be ambitious but still want

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<v Speaker 2>that softer life. I think this is a great article

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<v Speaker 2>to read and then start like redefining that for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I feel like that's the space I always say.

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<v Speaker 3>I was telling the girls that the and Kenya, like

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<v Speaker 3>the other Retreat members, I said, I'm in my shadd

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<v Speaker 3>era right about now, like I used to be in

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<v Speaker 3>my Beionce era.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't Beyonce like her. I'm talking to Icon.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it takes, the grind, the work, you know, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>we off that for me anyway. Yeah, So I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>my shad Day era.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you know anything about shad Day, she literally

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<v Speaker 3>comes out with an album every seven to fifteen years.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Like she literally would be like, oh, here's a little something,

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<v Speaker 3>go back to your business, and then she will go

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<v Speaker 3>back to wherever she's living her best life.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Shade is sixty but skin glowing.

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<v Speaker 3>She just looks beautiful. She looks well rested, like she

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<v Speaker 3>minds her business and drinks water, you know. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I that's the space that I'm in now that I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have the desire to be ambitious anymore in

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<v Speaker 3>the traditional sense, you know, because even though Shade is not,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, out there doing all the interviews or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I suspect she's still making music for music's sake, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning like I like, I'm so, I'm still I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>doing beautiful work, and you know, but I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>this necessity to be externally gratified by it anymore. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just tired and I don't have the desire to go

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<v Speaker 3>as hard as I used to go. There's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with the Beyonce era because there's this place. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>reason why I can buy that condo cash. It's because

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<v Speaker 3>of my Beyonce era. So certainly I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>turn my nose up in somebody who is in that

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<v Speaker 3>space right now. But even Beyonce, and it ain't even

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<v Speaker 3>have Beonce era, you know, are the visuals. Girl, If

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<v Speaker 3>y'all to leave me alone, She says, I have fifty

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 3>eleven kids. You heard her in a song, I got

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eleven kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So even Beyonce has taken down the Beyonce era. And

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<v Speaker 3>so because there are moments, you know, I think, then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>many of us make the mistake of staying one place

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<v Speaker 3>too long, and so like, yeah, so I love that. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to read that because I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to redefine what ambition looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we're going to keep that show called Brown Ambition,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're redefining it as we go. Okay, y'all, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>so good to be back with you, TIV, Happy New

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<v Speaker 2>Year everybody. Officially, yeah, we'll see y'all next week. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you Friday for BAQ and a bye bye hey

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<v Speaker 2>ba fam. We could not do this show without your

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<v Speaker 2>support or the support of our team behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brown Ambition podcast is produced by Cumulus Podcast Network.

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<v Speaker 2>It's edited by the wonderful Emani Crosby and produced by

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<v Speaker 2>Tanya Bustos. Dennis Taplinsky is our in house tech crew,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am Bandy Woindchard Santos your co host, and

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<v Speaker 2>I will see y'all next week.