WEBVTT - Draft Show: College Season Wrap; Top WR Prospects

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>on the your war Room for in Center, news and

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<v Speaker 1>draft analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star in for School, Dallas Cowboys Select Ezikiel Elliott,

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<v Speaker 1>and now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian

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<v Speaker 1>brought us Welcome to another edition of the Draft Show

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<v Speaker 1>from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. It's your faithful Scouts.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian brought us Dane Burglar, David Hellman here with you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Kick Garrison executive producing this thing. We're gonna put a

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<v Speaker 1>bow on this national championship thing tonight this afternoon, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, tonight. But what a game? Yeah, what a game?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to put a bow on this. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you guys though about if these guys, if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody elevated their game is did anybody change your mind

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to their draft stock? Do we have

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<v Speaker 1>them too high? Too low? Do we need to consider

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<v Speaker 1>some other guys? Well? I think that brings up another

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<v Speaker 1>point about how much do you value a performance on

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<v Speaker 1>a stage like that? Because you don't want to overvalue

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<v Speaker 1>one game. But I think there is something to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of an emphasis towards the games

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<v Speaker 1>where they mattered that much against top competition. And so

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<v Speaker 1>durn Payne, for example, Yeah, played the best two games

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<v Speaker 1>of his life the last two weeks in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>when it really mattered. On one hand, you're impressed. On

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, why didn't we see this more often?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's something that interesting, you know, dynamic for

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<v Speaker 1>each one of these players, and I Meank I fitz Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't hear a lot about in the title game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just because they didn't test him. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a very good game. Calvin Ridley same thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard from a lot of fans saying, do we

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<v Speaker 1>really want Calvin Ridley? I'm not seeing it. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>take his brother I'm under exactly. Yeah, maybe maybe which Ridley?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we supposed to take the Georgia Ridley or the

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama Ridley? But when you when you want? If? I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching the College Coaches version of the Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that used the All twenty two and Calvin really

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<v Speaker 1>is getting open at will. I saw your tweet and Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get to you about this too, But I

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<v Speaker 1>saw your tweet about that really is open again? He's

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<v Speaker 1>open again, wide open. Yeah, you had no problem beating

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<v Speaker 1>the cover, especially in the first half when Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 1>is that quarterback he couldn't find him in time. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it got a little better with Tua in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half to a tum not even going to try

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<v Speaker 1>and pronounce that last name. Now, I don't have too

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<v Speaker 1>for two more exactly. That's that's the kind of mindset

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<v Speaker 1>I have. And so yeah, I heard a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Ridley and I don't see a first round player

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<v Speaker 1>and this and that he was getting open at will.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, that's why I love Calvin Riley as a player.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'd love to see him as a Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>cowboy because of his ability to get open and give

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<v Speaker 1>his quarterback a clean target. Just because the Alabama quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get it to him doesn't mean that he underwhelmed

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday Night. Yeah, I mean, I thought every guy

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<v Speaker 1>that we talk about as the primary targets from that

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<v Speaker 1>game pain pains a good one because he played so well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean that bother you, guys. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you mentioned it, but does that bother you if

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking about a guy that on the national stage

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<v Speaker 1>two times played great, was a dominant player in those

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<v Speaker 1>two games, and then you watch him in Alabama during

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<v Speaker 1>the season. I'm watching to play Florida State, Texas A

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<v Speaker 1>and M, and I'm kind of thinking, Okay, get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of this guy a little quicker, you know, Okay, You're

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<v Speaker 1>better than this, you know. Is there something to be said?

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<v Speaker 1>I get what you're saying. Yeah, okay, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>want a guy that has the same intensity and the

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<v Speaker 1>same effort and the same performance weekend and week out.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's something to be said, like if he can

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<v Speaker 1>tap into that talents too critical here, the NFL is

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a place to do it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all right, great, he doesn't want to play

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<v Speaker 1>great against Mercer, and that doesn't mean he's not worth taking. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about against Florida State, Texas A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fair, I mean, because he did it. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not play as well the whole season that we saw,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, he knew his college crew is coming to

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<v Speaker 1>an end. He was playing a little extra motivated. So

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<v Speaker 1>it does worry you a little bit. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, I thought he was a first round player

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<v Speaker 1>before the playoff, and then what he did the last

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<v Speaker 1>two games only cements that for me. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>something that is in the back of your mind. First

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<v Speaker 1>round player I thought he was because again the traits

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that are six four, two hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>pounds aren't supposed to move like that. That gets that

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<v Speaker 1>gets into like the right kind of guy debate, like

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<v Speaker 1>like you would prefer the guy who plays, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>with the same motor all the time, snap in, snap out.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he's that talented, and assuming I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>his whole story, like assuming there's no like legitimate off

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<v Speaker 1>field baggage, Like if the only thing that worries me

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<v Speaker 1>is his consistency, I'll take that talent every time. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that once I get him in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have the same intensity is Don mckinsue, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of similar traits there that might

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<v Speaker 1>not be the worst thing in the world, though Don

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<v Speaker 1>mckinsue could stand to take it down a notch or

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<v Speaker 1>three probably, so, I mean, you know, Don mcnsue was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best college players I've ever seen one

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<v Speaker 1>of that if you want to ask me, he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>top five for me. Yeah, but he's not Sue, is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But there are a lot of there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Sue in him. When you're that size,

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<v Speaker 1>you have that type of hip action, the quickness, the

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<v Speaker 1>power with your upper body, and we saw it the

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<v Speaker 1>last two games. I didn't mean to take I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to take a deep dive on pain right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was gonna say, is all those guys either

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<v Speaker 1>played about where how I thought they would, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe even better. Yeah, they all looked like the

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<v Speaker 1>guys they're supposed to be. Ridley played a good game,

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<v Speaker 1>which okay, maybe he didn't have like, he didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>over the game. He had a touchdown, did he have two?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he just had the one, just one one where

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<v Speaker 1>he one where it? Yeah he basically yeah, an offensive interception.

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<v Speaker 1>All those guys that were supposed to show up showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought Smith was there, Ridley was there.

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<v Speaker 1>And did Smith play himself out of any position for Dallas?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he did that before he played that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think were we hoping for hope. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anything changed, should be honest with you, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he the last four games of the season were outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech, the SEC title game Oklahoma. He had some

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<v Speaker 1>bumps in the road in the first half against Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still a great game. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>in the National title game. I still think it comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to some teams will ding him because of the size.

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<v Speaker 1>He won't be for everybody, So there, you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>might only be in the top eighteen picks. There might

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<v Speaker 1>only be five teams that seriously consider him because of

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<v Speaker 1>the size and so crazy. There is a chance I

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<v Speaker 1>think he could get you know, followed in nineteen. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a likely chance, but there's a chance. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anything happened Monday night change that, because again he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>grow two inches in that game. Will he be the

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<v Speaker 1>It's just hard to say because you don't know the direction.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he's there at nineteen, is that a no brainer?

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<v Speaker 1>As to if say Ridley was there as well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Ridley would make it a tough conversation if you're picking

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<v Speaker 1>outside the top ten. I don't think there's such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as no brainer, Like how often do you really wind

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<v Speaker 1>up in a situation where there's just no doubt. I

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised that Washington ended up with Jonathan Allen last year. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked. Okay, I'm not and I'm surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts end up. Yeah, I mean, these are guys

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<v Speaker 1>that we talked about, is top five players in this draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden it's seventeen. Not everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>used these things the same way? Do they? No? They don't. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you who would have the bigger impact

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<v Speaker 1>on this team. Roquan Smith or Calvin Ridley. Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's some folks right now that right now are

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<v Speaker 1>just they're they're they're having the same issues we are

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<v Speaker 1>right now. With that that I think, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking us. You're taking a current starter off the field

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<v Speaker 1>to get them on the field. Either way, I would say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that is tough. Probably probably Ridley, But I'm not. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel good about it. I'm just like you could

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<v Speaker 1>revisit that in a week you might have a different answer. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you worried more about the defense of the

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<v Speaker 1>offense for the Cowboys. I'm more worried you're worried about

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<v Speaker 1>dak Us Scott in his development? Here's that is that now?

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<v Speaker 1>Paramount is that like the one. Yeah, it should be

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<v Speaker 1>priority number one. I'm more worried about the personnel on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, to be totally honest with you, but you

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<v Speaker 1>lost games without Sean Lee for the million But for

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<v Speaker 1>the millionth time, I say this all the time. The

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<v Speaker 1>offense is what's going to get you where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go. This isn't this isn't twenty thirteen Seattle, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just strap whatever you can to that defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>would would have the bigger impact because we have seen

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<v Speaker 1>some receivers not have impact right first year. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>happens all the time. But would Smith have such an

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<v Speaker 1>impact with your defense? We've seen with some young kids

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<v Speaker 1>when you draft young kids like they did in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think one what makes really different though, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at some of the receivers that I've struggled, like

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Coleman, Laquon Treadwell, guys that had questions by their

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<v Speaker 1>route running uh and just a technical savvy of the position.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the case with Ridley and that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I expect him to have a instant success, immediate

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<v Speaker 1>impact in some way. And that's the thing we have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about too, is the depth of the position. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big believer, and you take the best player

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe that's Ridley or Smith. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>have them similar rated and you just you're torn on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Wide receiver is a much deeper position this year in

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<v Speaker 1>the linebacker I went on, I went on, and artist,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you. That makes sense. It's well, it's you

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<v Speaker 1>took the line right out of Stephen Jones's mouth, BPA

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<v Speaker 1>with oh last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do BP

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<v Speaker 1>a w R best player available within reason. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a similar type of thing where you need to

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<v Speaker 1>take the best player, but you know, not out of

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<v Speaker 1>the realm of you know what helps your team. So

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<v Speaker 1>you look at linebacker. To me, there are two first

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<v Speaker 1>round linebackers. Now we didn't answer this question yet, did we. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we haven't really answered the question. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>the further in this whole rabbit hole we go it

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<v Speaker 1>just it off shoots the other. But you'll try. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fair question that he asked. It's a fair question.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder who on the stack will have a

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<v Speaker 1>higher grade. I wonder on the stack, who will have

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<v Speaker 1>a higher grade. Will the production of Smith trump the

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<v Speaker 1>production of Ridley? They're both a little undersized. But again, now, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the Stephen Jones thought, and you were gonna circle back.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're gonna do. You look at the

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<v Speaker 1>approach of Okay, how many first rounds or how many

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<v Speaker 1>in the first two rounds of names? How many first

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<v Speaker 1>or how many how many graded players you have in

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<v Speaker 1>the first two rounds at wide receiver? I've got sevens

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<v Speaker 1>quite a log gym and in the first how many rounds?

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<v Speaker 1>Two rounds? Nine? There you go, I'm more. You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually give me your linebackers. Yeah, four? See, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you, just you. You made it really easy

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<v Speaker 1>because for the millionth year in a row, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we say this every year. I feel great about

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<v Speaker 1>the wide receivers that you can probably find between thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two and eighty. I don't, but I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's that good for line. Did they give a set

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<v Speaker 1>reason last year why they drafted Taco? That's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent why they did what they did. Hey, did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that the defensive ends could stretch and they

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the dbs could? Why did they draft Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago to help the quarterback? Help Tony Romo. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to help Dak Prescott. That's fair. But don't

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<v Speaker 1>get what I'm saying though. I mean, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you can find a guy who can help Dak at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty or eighty one? Possibly? Yeah, it's if you feel

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<v Speaker 1>that great about Ridley, then obviously you want the best

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<v Speaker 1>possible option. I have no problem with Ridley, I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Then let's make it clear. If you're choosing between real

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<v Speaker 1>Quan Smith and Kelvin Ridley, you've already done very well

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round, and that's probably a pipe dream

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<v Speaker 1>that both of them. Yeah, somebody's at home right now,

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<v Speaker 1>just like neither one of them is gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut out. No, but that's but. But Dane made a point.

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<v Speaker 1>The physical makeup of both of these players is not prototypical.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not and scouts and they trust me. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to a guy again who's taken the tall receipt. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>all those tall receivers for me are all in the

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<v Speaker 1>same round. All those tall guys, sudden, I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>hate to even men. All those guys are all in

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<v Speaker 1>the same round. To me. I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>make this comparison because I don't think they're super similar players,

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<v Speaker 1>but just in terms of the impact, don't you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't you just see Roquan doing what like Deon Jones

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<v Speaker 1>is doing for Atlanta in terms of sure, you could

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<v Speaker 1>like a linebacker that you're never worried about having on

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<v Speaker 1>the field whatever, down in distance. I like, if Deon

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<v Speaker 1>Jones was taking nineteenth overall in that draft, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he'd be living up the potential based on and

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<v Speaker 1>based on if you were if you redrafted, that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>he would go up there. I mean what he was

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifties, I think her forties, fifties and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>MITI he would be a first round pick if you

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<v Speaker 1>redid it. I agree, probably top twenty. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>like the sound of that a lot. That guy has

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<v Speaker 1>done wonders for that Atlanta defense. I mean they used

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<v Speaker 1>to be and their corners people going back to what

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<v Speaker 1>Dangers said, we're a quarterback out today, that's yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not the orderback? I know. Is that the most important

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<v Speaker 1>position here for the Cowboys? Now, that's never changed part

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<v Speaker 1>of me that every team. Okay, but now after what

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen in year two, is it the most important?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the one position. Now oh wait, wait, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we went into last year. I guarantee you thinking the

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<v Speaker 1>only way that Dak Prescott regresses is the talent around him.

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<v Speaker 1>If you happen this year, if you tell me that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting sixteen games from Zeke and Tyrn Smith, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel good enough that I'll wait and give me Dj

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<v Speaker 1>Moore at fifty instead of Calvin Ridley at nineteen. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's okay. Yeah, And that's the argument because

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<v Speaker 1>that's if you draft Calvin Ridley, then the argument against

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<v Speaker 1>it is, well, then why do we spend such a

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<v Speaker 1>high draft pick on Zeke? You know, if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to feature the run game, why do we need to

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<v Speaker 1>take a wide receiver in the first round. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, you still you need d have to

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<v Speaker 1>develop because there's going to be a time, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, whether it's a game that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to win to into the playoffs, where Dak's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a big time throw and you just it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to beat to Zeke. It's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>be down the field third and twelve, and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on the arm of the quarterback. So you still

0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.599
<v Speaker 1>need to develop him. Even if you rely on the

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<v Speaker 1>run game to get you, you know, for most of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, for sixty percent of the game, you're still

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to use that armor the quarterback. Please call

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<v Speaker 1>me a disgusting homer if you think it's warranted. But

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<v Speaker 1>part of me wonders if all the hand ringing about

0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the offense is a little knee jerky, because wasn't it

0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.680
<v Speaker 1>They got to replace every court, every coach on staff

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<v Speaker 1>on the offense this year another interesting wrinkle to the

0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.760
<v Speaker 1>whole damn near all of them. Think about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think about how good the offense looked right before

0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Zeke got suspended. Sure, so, like we've seen him do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not just talking about Dax's rookie year, like

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<v Speaker 1>he'd played pretty damn well for the entire first half

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, with a few exceptions Denver. The Denver

0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.720
<v Speaker 1>game really sticks out to mittin that was baffling on

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<v Speaker 1>across all fronts. I'm not trying to say he was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to say there's nothing they need to

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<v Speaker 1>work on. But I think the pieces are in place

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<v Speaker 1>for this offense to function. Like I don't. I'm not great.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. I'm this is something we will debate,

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<v Speaker 1>probably up until the draft days though. And let's go on.

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to the National title game. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>think of the Georgia running backs? See, that's what I Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get into that too. Yeah, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>different thought. And here I am with my bold prediction

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<v Speaker 1>about carry on Johnson. You know. And then after watching

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<v Speaker 1>Jones from USC play last night, Jamal Charles, what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck was I thinking? And then and then I look

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<v Speaker 1>at Yeah, Ron Jones USC running back And then I

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<v Speaker 1>look at and then I look at what you say?

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<v Speaker 1>What were what were you thinking? Oh? I wasn't thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to him. He needs to be he needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>up the board where you have him I had in

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<v Speaker 1>the second round. Oh that's not terrible. But I got

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<v Speaker 1>I will, I will, I'll tell you what. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know Taylor Stern is gonna join us at the at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the end of show with the Taste takes.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got some really interesting questions and and I think

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<v Speaker 1>what him has to do with the running backs? But

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<v Speaker 1>I the thing with Michelle, I was very impressed with him,

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<v Speaker 1>very impressed every time they handed him the ball, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet he did. It was attack, and yet he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a carry in the fourth quarter. You know, coaches

0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.120
<v Speaker 1>take two stupid pills and a cup of gay orade

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<v Speaker 1>and here we go. It seems like it happens way

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<v Speaker 1>too oft. It happens way too often. All that, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Why they gave it to Nick Chubb as

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<v Speaker 1>much as they did. Chubb is building swift, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the freshman. Yeah, Chubb is. He's two hundred and thirty

0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.320
<v Speaker 1>pounds that lower body to balance the power. I mean,

0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.040
<v Speaker 1>he's more built for a fourth quarterback, you know, to

0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.640
<v Speaker 1>wear down the defense. But yeah, where if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting first downs, it's not gonna matter. So I get it.

0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I wish we would have seen more Sonny Michelle in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter. Uh you know, it's it's funny. I've

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<v Speaker 1>loved Michelle all year, been propping him up, and now

0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it's almost I got so many message is always a

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<v Speaker 1>first rump. Now he's getting overrated, yeah, because of how

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<v Speaker 1>what he's done the last two weeks and people are

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<v Speaker 1>actually starting to watch him. But he's a very good player.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in that second round mix along with some other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So which Georgia running back. Do you like better, Michelle, Michell,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a prospect. Yeah, clearly, clearly. Not a debate, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not a debate. I think I actually have Stanford's love

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<v Speaker 1>in between the two. Okay, I'm still waiting on him

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<v Speaker 1>to declare, but yeah, well yeah, the way I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at him, I was got until next week one day. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the Clemson defensive line lineman. Farrell bryant Um, Christian

0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:42.399
<v Speaker 1>wilkins Um, Bryce Love waiting on him step Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the other guys were Clemson defensive lineman. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, but satisfied with how that game was well played. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that. All the guys that we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>played pretty damn well. I mean, I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that is really in the mix at the top of

0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the draft really laid an egg in that game. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>the riser, the riser? Could it be Michelle? Could the

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<v Speaker 1>riser be Michelle? Or could it or about your boy? Pain?

0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Pain in my mock draft. My first mock draft that

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<v Speaker 1>I've done was before Thanksgiving, and I had Pain going

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<v Speaker 1>twenty overall, So I'm probably gonna go sixteen seventeen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think he's yeah, somewhere in that mid

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<v Speaker 1>first round range. You know, Vida Veya is right there too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Vita Vea earlier. Just again the traits I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you who you could take between Pain defensive

0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:38.400
<v Speaker 1>tackle Alabama Vita Vea defensive tackle Washington. Sure is fun

0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.920
<v Speaker 1>just watching Veya just throw guards around and Stamford tackle

0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.760
<v Speaker 1>running backs using the center to do so, and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you probably go via Veya Pain if we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about just the nose tackles, the one technique. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Veya than Pain. Yeah, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>into the show, Kick Garrison will handle that for us.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now we'll get into a little twitter on

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<v Speaker 1>the Twitter, it's all yours. Thanks, ed Ka Hill. Since

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:15.600
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the National Title game, El Guapo wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know Ronnie Harrison. Yeah, guy, we've all looked at

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<v Speaker 1>he is he a strong safety as a free safety?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about him? Where do you got him?

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely a strong I think that because I would

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<v Speaker 1>all agree on that, and he actually declared this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, um, so he's officially in this draft. When

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<v Speaker 1>he was left alone in coverage, yeah, thoughts, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>too excited about that. I think that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he has any catchup speed myself. Yeah, I worry a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about that. I think he has to play

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<v Speaker 1>down I think I saw a good blitzer, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see a guy with range. When you start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about coverage bothered me a little bit about him. He

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<v Speaker 1>will knock you out as a downhill player, he will

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<v Speaker 1>knock you out. He's a linebacker, yeah, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>a he's a physical player and box yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see. Like I said, Ian, if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>obviously with the Cowboys though, if you're looking at it there,

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the way they do things, you know, the safeties, you know,

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.159
<v Speaker 1>you have to be able to have some coverage with

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<v Speaker 1>with Byron Jones has been able to doing Xavier Woods,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that's I think that's what the I

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.400
<v Speaker 1>don't need another box safety. I'm the Cowboys. He needs

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody has a little bit more free to them, which

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<v Speaker 1>well and that's a good segue for Wes, who he

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<v Speaker 1>says are safeties you would take at nineteen. And I'm

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>early on. I haven't watched eighty guys or four hundred

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>guys like you two, but I have my doubts that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a safety I feel good about in the first round,

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 1>which I which bombs me out because I consider that

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<v Speaker 1>a huge need. I know, y'all are gonna tell me

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Minca Fitzpatrick, maybe you could play safety. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>off the board way before the Cowboys pick. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>am I wrong? Is there a safety you feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about drafting at nineteen? James? Yeah, there you go, that's

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the name. Yeah, and Derwin James. Here we go. Here's

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a guy that does cover, he does play in the slot,

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>he does blitz, he does cause turnovers. He's a pretty

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 1>physical tackler. Yeah. He's the one guy that I kind

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of thought would maybe be a little bit overrated. But

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not. I thought, I heard you say you didn't

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>know what to make of him. I didn't know what

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to make and go back. I went back and just

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>hammered games and hammered games and hammered games on him,

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and the results. He's a better player than I thought

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>he was initially. He really really is. Did you watch

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>old taper just this year? Nope, just this year. I

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<v Speaker 1>went back. I mean we had some early games in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the box that you know I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to do and I didn't feel I felt like a

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>player that guy that floated too much, kind of like okay,

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>go get in there. And then you watch him play,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like late in the year they played Florida, and

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.159
<v Speaker 1>it's like he took it personally that closing. Yeah, and

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he's got a burst and maybe he's a guy at

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen if you're looking at a safety. I don't now

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 1>is he Is he a free You see him Moore

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>as a free he has let us is them to

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>be a free But I don't think. I don't think

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that's just he's a better athlete than football player right now,

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about that. And that he's a red shirt sophomore.

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>He was outstanding as a freshman, missed almost all of

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 1>last year with an injury, and in this past season

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>as a red shirt sophomore, you saw Russ after missing

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>all of us Yeah, and that's probably why the early

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>tape on him is not good. NC State. Yeah, didn't

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>look good. Now, if you want to study this guy,

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go late. And they had a bad season

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>by their standards. Yeah, yeah, terrible season by their standards. Absolutely.

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's a guy though that I think that

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>if you if you want to look at if if

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a guy there at nineteen and he could be

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, am I speaking out of turns saying he

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<v Speaker 1>could be there at nineteen? No, I think it's possible.

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna put up some impressive numbers at

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the combine and you know, we'll see how that fluctuates

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 1>the stock. But this is a guy who I remember

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>he received a scholarship offer at Florida State when he

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>was a freshman in high school. Yeah. Like he's just

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>always been a freak. That's just kind of who he is,

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I think that'll continue at the next level.

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Is just the technical skill I feel like I talked

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:05.479
<v Speaker 1>about it every week. Is that going to catch up?

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>That development? It's something that if he was a cowboy,

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>fans should not expect him to be an All pros

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>first year. But he's gonna make some splash plays and

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>then you just hope that it all. You know, the

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>light bulb comes on and it all comes to well,

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he creates some turnovers. Now, great segue for a question

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>from Miguel I like this. He wants to know of

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<v Speaker 1>the top you know, of the top fifteen twenty guys,

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like the elite prospects, which one would you have the

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>hardest time pulling the trigger on, like the guy that

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, I don't know. Um, Well, let's take

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>quarterback out of the conversation. Yeah, that's okay that it's

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of cheating. You can say all the quarterback fair.

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a problem with Connor Williams. Well, yeah,

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's a good conversation because Texas offensive. Sorry

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>about that, folks. Yeah, you watch the what I'm here

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 1>for twenty six sixteen tape. As a sophomore, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick. Uh, then you watch and seven team.

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>He played awful in the opener against Maryland, and then

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>he got hurt and he missed most of the year,

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 1>came back, played well for two games that he was back,

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>And so if you're drafting him in the first round,

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>it's based on a two hus and sixteen stuff. I

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>still want to know what happened in that Maryland game.

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>It was just it was awful. It was bad. And

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>so do you give day two? Yeah? Yeah, it was

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>season opener. Do you give him a pass for that

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and focus just on his sophomore tape because if you do,

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna take him in the first round, and

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I think a team will do that. But I do

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>think that is a worthy name for this question, because

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 1>in the back of your mind, you're always going to

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>think about that two or ten and seventeen season. You know,

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>what the heck happened about arden Key? Oh yeah? And

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that's the reason I didn't immediately say him is because

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>does he even count as a top twenty player in

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>this class? Because of you think somebody will? Do you

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>think somebody will turn a blind eye to all the

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>off field stuff? David? I mean, you know those LSU

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>players just as good as me. You know, I would.

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm tempted. How are they gonna sell arden Key when

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>they go in and talk to coach oh and everybody

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>there at LSU. How they're gonna sell arden Key to

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>these scouts? That's I think that's the million dollar question,

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's a loaded bag saying this, so I

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>don't say it lightly. But he's gonna get compared to

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory. Yes, just is because he's the same type

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of player. He's a he's a freakish athlete, looks like

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a three four rangey guy. I mean, he jumps off

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>any tape that you watch. Even this year when he

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>was hurt, I thought he wasn't as good as last

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>year when he had like sixteen sacks or whatever it was.

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>But he still jumps off the tape. But injuries, off

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>field stuff, I just based on what I've seen of him,

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine it's still enough to draft him in

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the top twenty. But Randy Gregory fell all the way

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to sixty. Yeah, And like I mean, you know, Randy

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Gregory failed a drug test at the combine. Like there's

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of digging to still be done on arden Key. So,

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it's it's probably premature and not fair

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to drop that label on him, but I think his

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>off field and everything that comes with him is going

0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>to be highly scrutinized. I think people are fearful of

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the LSU defensive end in these drafts just overall. I

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>mean the last the one that went high was what mingo.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I mean, it hasn't happened that often.

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not like LSU doesn't stay out these monstrous the

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.959
<v Speaker 1>ends they put, they put guys, these defensive linemen. I mean,

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Brockers has been pretty good. Rockers has had a really

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>nice career, Benny Logan has had a really nice career. Um,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>but Mingo Mingo is one of the worst busts of

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the last decade or so. So I mean that's fair,

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that it's enough. I think, I think, yeah,

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I think like David says, I think that you look

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>at talk about top twenty. He's got top twenty talent,

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>but is he really a top twenty player when you

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>when you put in all the things, the same thing

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>was said, you said it Randy Gregory. Everybody talked about

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory as a top ten player, top five Nebraska,

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh Gregory, Gregory, greg That's all I ever heard. And

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett got talked into drafting him. Here. I don't

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>see that happened in this year. No. I would imagine

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys will steer way clear of him, but that

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean somebody else won't. And like I said, months

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to go, I mean, right, there's a lot of a

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of homework we have to do. And I'm gonna

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>give you three more names about players that give me

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of pause in the top potential Top

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty picks. Christian Wilkins, the three technical Clemson. Yeah, terrific

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>athlete and the highlights look great. Just consistent season issue. Um.

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Josh Jackson, Iowa. Yeah, there you go. I need my

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>corners to tackle. See. This is where I got in

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>some Twitter discussions and they were like, no, no, he tackles. Well,

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like what game. I was like, what are you

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about here? Don't do this tours the corners. They

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>don't need to be great tackles. Oh they had a

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>kid that tackled last year. Yeah, they did, Desmond King.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>But just look like he's just get him on the grounds.

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Look like you want to at least like get in

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>his way and wait for the slow him down so

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody else can make it. Yeah, exactly, so Jewel can

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>run over and tackle the guy. I need you. I

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>need you do it. Look at least look like you

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>want to do it, even if you're not that great

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>at it. What that guy left a bad taste in

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Josh Jackson Christian Wilkinson. The third one I was gonna

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>mention was Harold Landry, the past rusher from Boston College

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>who came into the senior year with high expectations and

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>he didn't live up to him and battled ankle injury.

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh and you know that kind of that played a

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>part in the whole conversation. But still there there's worry

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Harold Landry, a potential top twenty pick,

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>but there are some questions, a lot of questions about him.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>What happened to that player from last year? And that's

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying that the guy, I mean, he had

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>what sixteen sacks? Right right? Right? Yeah? Yeah, where's the

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>player this year? I was surprised he came back to school.

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, and maybe he should have came out early.

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>But I mean he's he wanted a shot out the

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>playoff Dane, Boston College, the Eagles, Yeah, cross hockey, Yeah exactly,

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna get a chieved to go to the Senior Bowl.

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what he could himself. Okay, while

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>people there maybe yeah, good week at the Senior Bowl.

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>The senior season will be forgotten, yeah, or close to it. Yeah,

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Jorge wants to know other than Calvin Ridley, big impact

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers. Whatever. Take that to me, whatever you want,

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>whether that's first round whatever, but receivers. I view that

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>as a receiver that's gonna help from day one. I

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>think we agree on the number two wide receiver in

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>this class, right, Christian Kirk Right, And I think we

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>expect him to. He made an instant impact at A

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and M as a true freshman, actually has sued best

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>season as a freshman. Um. I think he can make

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>an instant impact. Who's your third receiver? More from Washed

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>from Maryland's Jay, more of him? See now again, this

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>is Brian brought us stirring away from the sequoias. You're

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna poison everybody again. No, I'm not trying to poison anybody.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>But if anybody watches his football team, what was the problem.

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I'll use my line I used

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia and when I was thirty five years old

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that press conference team needs players. Team needs players, need

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>some guys who can run. You guys, watch this game.

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you know who we need? I say that I

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>encourage anyone who doesn't know what Brian's talking about to

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>go find the video. I'll post it later. Yeah, me

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>with hair talking about hey and like wait, wait two

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and five pounds and two Dave. This team needs receivers

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that can run routes and not goes. There we go, yeah,

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>there we go. That's not so hard. It's not so hard.

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>So Kirk can run routes, Kirk yea. DJ Moore can

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>run DJ Moore And you know what, DJ Moore could

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>probably catch the ball better than Kirk. I don't I

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>don't say this often, and I think the Steve Smith

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>comparisons get overused for those two are just more. DJ

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Moore gives off a Steve Smith vibe. Yeah, give me

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy with a chip on his shoulder. That's mean

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that we'll go get the ball anywhere and we'll get

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and cand separate. Give me that guy got so many

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks he went through at Maryland last three years, not one,

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>not two different quarterbacks. Like, so it's not like there

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there's not a built in excuse there. Uh, you

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>know he with some the other receivers. You point to

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback play up and down. Saint Brown from Notre Dame.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>His stats fell off without Kaiser Audum take the last

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>two years with two freshman quarterbacks. His stats not what

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you want from a top player. Then you have Dj Moore,

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>who became the third ever player at Maryland to go

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 1>over a thousand yards receiving in a year, set the

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Maryland record for catches this past season. I think I

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>can get him at fifty. I don't think so, but

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. Kind of short, maybe that

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>drops him down a little bit. As you say, if

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>he if he measures five ten, then he's gonna walk

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>out of that room feeling good because he's probably like

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 1>five nine and a half. I'll tell you what, he's

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a football player. He's fantastic. Like I said Steve Smith

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>vibe on that tape. Yeah, so yeah, I think if

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't, if you don't look at Calvin Riley in

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the first you're you have to figure out, Okay, where's

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the value for Christian Kirk, DJ Moore, Anthony Miller is

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in that conversation for me, Memphis right wide receiver from Memphis.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>And then so I think those are the top four.

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>And then that's maybe when you start talking about the

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>bigger guys Courtland Sutton. Yeah, guys like that there was

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>coming to play and James Washington is the one where

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>boys Scott from Jalil Scott from Mexico State. I watched him.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>If you haven't had a chance to watch Jalil Scott

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>play from New Mexico State, can go get it. If

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you can get the Arizona State game. Have fun nine

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>catches from one seventies. He is like his best games

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>were gets big time competition Arizona State, Arkansas. What's his backstory, Dane,

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Because he's a he's a junior co IOWA, junior college

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 1>guy from South Carolina, South Carolina. There's a little bit

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of baggage there. Um, I don't want to go into it,

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>like me the full story, but there there's some background

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff that teams are gonna have to work through and

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that could hurt him a little bit. But it's something

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. Yeah. On the field, that routes

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>are all over the place. You know, he's not a

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>very refined player, but in you can throw it, you know,

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>three feet over his head and he'll go get it.

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>He will get it along the sidelines. He'll do it

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>body control balanced. I mean, you see Jeff Kavanaugh from

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>one oh five three was watching tape. He said he

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>was Randy Moss without the speed. I hate comparing people

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to Randy Moss. It's just a lot. I'm a going

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to getting the football saying getting the football. Yeah, you know,

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a tall, lean guy. He's like the Kevin Durant in

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>terms of body types for prospects. You know, he's just

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he's tall, just very lean, skinny. Uh. You see that

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>over the middle. He's not the toughest guy over the

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 1>middle of the field. It's funny his routes. When he

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>runs across the middle, he goes back instead of going

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>down the line, he goes back towards the quarterbacks. He's

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun I think he can make you

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>put him in red zone situations. He can stretch the

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 1>field too. He's got a little bit of speed he does.

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>He's not a slow gan. Where does where does um

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>James Washington for two rank on all this Oklahoma's and

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that's we get a lot of questions about James Washington. Um.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I like James Washington. I think he's a solid like

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a second rounder. But the routes worry me. Uh. But

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>down the field vertically is great, strong hands, strong fingers,

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>strong wrists. The ball sticks to his hands, so very reliable.

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 1>But he's not a guy that's gonna just get open

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>at will yea routes. And he's not the biggest guy's

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>about six foot. I mean he's got a little It's okay,

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Golden Tate in terms of size, he's not the biggest

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>guy at six foot, but where we're all in love

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>with a guy who's five nine and a half. So

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it's true different. Yeah, it's fair. I'm I'm gonna get

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>it with Washington, though, I got I got a question

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>one more, Dave, who can you get your tailor in here?

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I really want you to answer this our tribe, Brian.

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>It's good. It's a good question from Joe, and it's

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>not about players. But what do you think the Cowboys

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>would do if Will McClay ever did leave? Like is

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>there an understudy here? You know what? That's that's a

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 1>very good question, because to be honest with you, I

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think they have a guy that like Will McClay

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like in the building. No, I don't think. I don't

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>think they have a guy that knows how we talked

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 1>about the triangle the other day. The Jones is, the scouts,

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.720
<v Speaker 1>the coaches. I think Will McClay is outstanding at bringing

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>all those together and making sure that they're all on

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the same page. I don't know if they nestionarily have

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy like that. The problem is, and this is

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>where I was having this conversation about general managers that

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you would hire and this is no shot at college scouts. Okay,

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>but I would hire a general manager that has a

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>background in pro personnel. I've got to know who's playing

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>in the league. I've got to know who's playing in

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>my division. Brian Guducus is a good scout for the

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers who was just named general manager. Brian

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Kutigas can't tell you who the backup tight end is

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>with Chicago Bears. He can't tell you who their nickel

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>rushiers in Minnesota, and he can't tell you who the

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>left tackle is for the Detroit Lions. You have got

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>to know your teams in your division in order to

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>build your team to defeat teams in your division, to

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>win the division, to get in the playoffs. So in

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a world I'm not saying excuse, I'm not saying every

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>scout that's a college scout can't be a great general manager.

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, though, give me a guy that understands

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the league, and give me some scouts underneath them that

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>could help me with the college side, and I will

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and I would imagine, I mean, and they're heavy the

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>other way here. Not to trivialize it, I mean, it's

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 1>it's hard work and it's important work. But I mean,

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you know the league. I mean, you can watch tape

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and identify college players, especially if you have people helping

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you do it. College guys tend to work on a

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.839
<v Speaker 1>draft and then forget the draft. Yeah, they go year

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>to year. Yeah, that's a problem. You got to know

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 1>who's playing in this league in order to have some success.

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>So in a world where Will does one day leave

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, I would have to imagine they would have

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to go out, go outside the building. They would Yeah,

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and again the guys overascinating guys over there's some good scouts,

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think they have another Will McClay in

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>this building. I really really don't. Okay, we're gonna take

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.520
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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy dot Com Draft you We're back here. The SWBC

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<v Speaker 1>Mortgage Studios Brian brought us Dane Brugler, David Hellman, joined

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<v Speaker 1>now by Taylor Stern. Hello everyone, Hello Taylor, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the program. I want to get Taylor involved because check

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>lady right here knows her college football. She's learned a

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>lot about pro football. I appreciate some of the conversations

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 1>that I have with her about all this and the

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>draft stuff. So she's come up with some questions. Yeah,

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that that that's going to challenge us

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to do that. So I just want to bring her

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 1>in and see make this a weekly thing with you.

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Take hot take Tay. Yes, what do you got for

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>us today? On it? It is? It is serious business

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>here and Dane, you know, I questioned Dane. Everyone knows

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that Dane is grinding away three sixty five fifty two

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>weeks of the year. What do you get bummdy didn't

0:42:54.800 --> 0:43:00.479
<v Speaker 1>bring donuts today, but but I'll ask questions nonetheless. All right, guys,

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 1>running backs, You guys know that I was a big

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>proponent for a zy Gullets were going up there high

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>at four over all, four of the Cowboys. Now in

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two thousand and eight, there were four

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.320
<v Speaker 1>running backs drafted in the first round. Does that happen

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>again this year? Could both of them be coming from Georgia?

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Could it be the Penn State? Great? Yeah, so over

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.479
<v Speaker 1>under four running backs in the first round. I've taken

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the under. I know you are, you're a hater. Yes,

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take the under two. But I think it's

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna it's gonna be close though, because I see close,

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I see three. Okay, I think the first round thirty

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>two picks. I think, I mean Barkley is a lock.

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a lock. It's gonna be the fourth one. If

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it is, it's Barkley, Johnson, probably Jones. Okay, you guys

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>love carry On Johnson. Yeah, you like him more than

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Jones. I have Barkley, guys, Jones, Johnson, Jones, those

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 1>are the yeah, your adults son, my large adult son,

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Darius guys. I think he's a first round lock. Like

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>if all four of those players went the round, I

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I'd have no problem with it. I think Ronald

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Jones is seriously impressive. Man, He's very impressive. Hes

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Jamal Charles, he never loses his balance in the Bond

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Guy in the Gift, Oh he's not And like Linky Night.

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Think he's not powerful, but like he just shakes off everything.

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>He runs so hard that his momentum creates power. But

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>you're right, he's like a two hundred, two hundred and

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>three pound back. I absolutely love him, and I think so.

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Kenny Native shout out North Texas true. I

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 1>think Barkley guys and Jones all go in the first.

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about care. I think this is a shot.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna say yes because I'm gonna think

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna fall in love with with love late in

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the draft. Sony Michelle did nothing for you, Dave. I

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like Sony Michelle. I think Dane's probably right though, like

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's recency bias, like you've seen him play in

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>these big games, like he's probably a second or third

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>round pick. I don't think I draft him in the first.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I gave over the summer a game of second round grade.

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that should change. I think he's a

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>solid second round player, and that's that's not a bad.

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Thick Chubb who's been in college football for about twenty

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>years now, he's done nothing for you. Yeah, I want

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Sony Michelle hanging around because I'd love to add him

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to this team if he's still there. You get a

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of these teams are gonna look at it and say, well,

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>we could take a carry on Johnson, here are Darius

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>guys here in late first round, or we just wait

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to the second round and get a Chubb, get a

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of these second round backs. So I

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 1>think that's that type of mindset. With the running backs

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and receivers. We could only see maybe one or two

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>receivers in the first only two or three running backs

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>in the first. So I would go the under. All right, Well,

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you guys are talking about surplus, and I have another question.

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>If my team needs a blank, my team is in

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>luck the obvious ones. I say, running back and receiver

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 1>who we just talked about. Yeah, based two receiver for sure, Yeah,

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>two positions where you feel good about feel good about

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 1>these any corners? I think corners A great corner is

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.919
<v Speaker 1>a great position this year. Uh. We know teams every

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>team needs more corner hill. Uh. And I think in

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.879
<v Speaker 1>the first round, secon round, a third round, there's plenty

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>of depth in each round. How many first round corners

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>do you have on your board right now? I haven't

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>done them all, but uh, I've done them before. I've

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 1>got I've got two Warden Fitzpatrick. Okay, I didn't put

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Jackson in there. Say even Jackson, Alexander and Davis from Auburn.

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Jackson's a first round pick even if he think, even

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't like to tackle, Yeah, I still like

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>he's an accept I just got him in a spot

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that I know he's there, but I'm a little nervous

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:35.479
<v Speaker 1>about that. I like my guys to tackle a little

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>bit on the edge. Yeah, yeah, you see what these

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>two corners did here. Don't you like? Don't you like

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks who can cover receivers and get interception. I do

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 1>like Marcus Peters doesn't like to tackle. No, I don't care.

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>He's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, Corners Alexander, And that's what I'm saying, Alexander. Yeah,

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean even a guy like Tarvarus McFadden from Florida

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>State and get him in the second or third round.

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a position that has a lot of depth

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>with these underclassmen. I'm looking at my ranking right now.

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I have one four twelve underclassmen in my top fifteen corners.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So this underclassmen group has helped the corners a lot.

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>How many players have you watched so far? I couldn't

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>give you a number. God, I'm sorry, give him a break.

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna watch some more after we get done with this.

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Media scouts are too high on this guy. Usually it

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>is receivers. Look at the Kuan Treadwell. Who with the

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 1>media guys too high on. I mean, initially I thought

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>it was James. Usually I thought it was it was him.

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I got some quarterbacks, some of these saderbacks. I think

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>they're a little overrated. Oh, I got one for you.

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Quarter I mean quarterback, because you can pick these quarterbacks

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 1>apart for a variety of it. I can't that I'm

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>terrible at the position, but like you can watch their

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>tape and find plenty to be wrong about him too,

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>But you can find plenty to be critical of. Sure,

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:53.919
<v Speaker 1>I got one for you, Dane Bradley Chubb. You think

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>just another Chub just in terms not that he not

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that he's not a good player. I'm not trying to

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>say that, but I've watched him. You didn't. He's the

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>guy like you do. You do a way too soon

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.839
<v Speaker 1>mock the day after every draft, right, he was if

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I had to guess he was probably in like your

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>top five or no, he was. Actually that's because you're

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>great at what you do. But he was in a

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of people's top five. Had been he's been. He's

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>been the guy that we've been hyping as one of

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the best prospects in this draft for multiple years, like since,

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he's been like a softmore that Nelson. I just I've

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>heard a lot about Bradley Chubb, and when I watched him,

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, he's good, but he doesn't like he's

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>not Miles Garrett like he does, I don't think. But

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>but what I'm like, he gets talked about like he is,

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>at least in my opinion. I gave him a second

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 1>round grade over the summer boom based on his junior tape,

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>but then this year as a senior, he amped it up.

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 1>He did amped it up. Dave Taylor's just here as

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>usual to just make life. I know, But I think

0:48:57.080 --> 0:49:00.439
<v Speaker 1>that's fair because he's not a Miles Garrett. Not saying

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 1>he's not a good player. I'm not even saying he's

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>not a first round pick. He's just not that transcendent

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:08.839
<v Speaker 1>top five guy. A problem with that is this draft

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have five of those guys. That's fair. Yeah, you know,

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like this draft doesn't have ten top ten picks. You know,

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't take him over. You certainly wouldn't take him

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>over Garrett and I don't think you'd take him over

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Solomon Thomas either. Right about Josh Allen at the beginning

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of this year, Yeah, Josh Allen, Yeah, he's if we're

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about guys that are people a little bit overrated? Yeah, yeah.

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>It always happens that media guys catch up after the

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>combine to really what's going on in the scouting world.

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.319
<v Speaker 1>That's the media scouts, with the exception of my colleagues here,

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 1>um who do grind on the tape. I think Malik

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson's another one. I think a lot of people, yeahs

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>bands and a lot of people in the media. I

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 1>think he's a first round pick. I just don't see it.

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>A lot of angry Longhorns, I know, and hey, no,

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>but some of them admitted, some of mid Mitt that

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 1>he didn't play well. I love Puna Ford, So it's

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>not all Texas players, all right. I a second round

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman in this draft. Who's my guy? You fell

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>in love with one yesterday, didn't he Oh gosh, Hernandez

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 1>or Quisenberry Hernandez. Yeah, U tap guys Hernandez Right, Hernandez,

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>He's he's got bear claws for hands. He's so strong.

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>This guy is square, he's tough, he's a finisher, and

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>for three hundred and thirty something pounds, he can move.

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I would plug him in right now at left guard

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 1>here and go. I really would. And I like the

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and I like the Quisenberry kid from UCLA the center.

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know he's athletic enough to maybe play guard. Yeah,

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:41.799
<v Speaker 1>but her Nandez is a guy that I again, U tap,

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>poor team didn't win a game this year, But you

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>watch the tape of this guy play, he will get

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 1>your attention. I want a guard named Quisenberry. Now I

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 1>can't Jersey Well, you said no, you're right on with

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Will Hernandez. I think he's right up there. Uh. This

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.320
<v Speaker 1>is a guy who had bad grades in high school,

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and so the bigger school is backed off. Utube was

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the only school that stayed on him. Is mean, and

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.520
<v Speaker 1>he rewards he well, he remembers that he plays with

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a chip and he can move. You're right, yeah, if

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he's left, you know, one on one battles. He's gonna

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 1>win those, you know, every time. So I think Braden

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Smith from Auburn's another guard. Ever, I had problems with

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Braden sith I did. I like him. I think he's

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.280
<v Speaker 1>in the second mix. And then Isaiah Win from Georgia.

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 1>There we left tackle, who I think is going to

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>be a starter at guard. I think he's also in

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:28.439
<v Speaker 1>that early day two conversation. I like it. Christian Kirk,

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.479
<v Speaker 1>somebody that everyone knows in this region. Is he really

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>just a slot receiver? He was at A and M

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's what I think. I've talked to some Scots

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.720
<v Speaker 1>about this. He had a first round slot receiver. They're

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>they're torn on this because they want to see it.

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>You think he can do it. I think he could

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>play outside. I think he can too. I just don't

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:52.799
<v Speaker 1>know if he'll be as effective. What's his current hype? Ah?

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:58.839
<v Speaker 1>He is five six, I believes, right, yeah, six right

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>right at five to eleven five one zero six, that's him.

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he can play pounds though side. If he

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>can't play outside, that's scary. I don't don't tell me again.

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just that he's never he was a slot only

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 1>receiver at and I tell you what, we need to

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>go down to A and M the pro day and

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>see what receivers. Yeah. Yeah, if you're more welcome to

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>anybody wants to come on. But is that Are you

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>really going to learn anything from that? Yeah, but let's

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 1>see who's working him out and see if they're working

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 1>him out outside, if they're making him do stuff outside stuff. Yeah,

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 1>because a big part of it's going to be he's

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a first round player for me, he's a second receiver

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I have on the board. Can he separate versus press?

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Can you know when he doesn't have when he has

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a sideline to his right and he really you know,

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>there's only so many things he can do with his release.

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.800
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have the open field like in the slot.

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Will he be as effective instan separation. I'm not trying

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to spend pick nineteen on a guy who can't play outside,

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 1>So let's figure that out A good questions. I don't

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's that he can't. It's just that we

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:53.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure that he can, And it's just

0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a projection to say that he

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:58.359
<v Speaker 1>will because we haven't seen him do it. Scary. Well,

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna run every bit of fourth though, get ready

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:04.280
<v Speaker 1>for Yeah, he's four he's a really really good speed

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>that as a punt returner, he's gonna make a big

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:10.360
<v Speaker 1>impact too. So the Cowboys are already said at return,

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So we're good. All right. Another guy I want to

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>know about what position? Do you think that train? Maine Edmonds,

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the linebacker from Virginia Tech. Can he play in the league?

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Which one can't? He plays the baller, he can play

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>them all. I don't. I don't you want to take

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>him at nineteen? I have no problem taking him nineteen. Yeah,

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:30.840
<v Speaker 1>he can play strong, he could play. He put his

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 1>hand in the ground and rush off the edge. He's

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 1>six four two forty five. You talk about him helm

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>and you watched him last night. Well that's We actually

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 1>had a twitter on the twenty question that we didn't

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 1>get to and somebody said, you know, if Roquan Smith

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>isn't there is there another linebacker that is? And I

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 1>think that's your guy. Yeah, there's only two linebackers. I've

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.479
<v Speaker 1>given first round grades too. On Okay again, I'm gonna

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:54.439
<v Speaker 1>do that. I don't player comparison suck. But and he's

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:56.800
<v Speaker 1>not as athletic. He's definitely not as athletic. But like

0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought, I was thinking about Jalen Smith while I

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>was watching him, not just because of the dreads, but

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like they use him as a pass rusher. He's a

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>big dude. He's four two forty five, Like he's very large.

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you could use him in certain pass rush situations.

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>He's got the athleticism to play multiple linebacker spots, and

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:18.400
<v Speaker 1>he hits really hard, just like Jalen does. So it

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:20.920
<v Speaker 1>would be his best position. I think that's what she

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:26.320
<v Speaker 1>wants to know. Best position. Uh. In this scheme, I

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>would play him at Mike right, I would lean. I'd

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>play at Mike myself. I would lean Mike. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>this scheme, Uh, I would like to see him at

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.279
<v Speaker 1>a three to four. That'd be fun. Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if him and Jalen Smith were in the same linebacker corps,

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about like one of the biggest linebacker at

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>least for four. Yeah. Two guys are like almost two fifty.

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. I got two defensive ends playing

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Michael Hey, I'm all about it, especially if you you know,

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 1>people talk about the defensive tackle position as a problem here, Like,

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have beef upfront, you might as well

0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>have two check. Can't you remember Ferrell Edmunds his dad? Yeah,

0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 1>tight End, Yeah, he's this guy grew up with the NFL.

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:06.839
<v Speaker 1>He knows what it's like to be a professional. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good player on that Virginia check tape or a

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>And for a guy that big, he doesn't look uncomfortable

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and coverage, No, he does. He's carrying guys up the field,

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you tight Ends. He can cover running backs, he can

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:20.479
<v Speaker 1>move up the field and doesn't look like he's lost

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>laboring at all. Yeah, the motor is stuck in turbo.

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:25.879
<v Speaker 1>He's got the character you want to so I think

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:29.920
<v Speaker 1>he's I like when he hits people, they stop. Jayleen's

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:33.720
<v Speaker 1>got that trade him will stop. Yeah, yeah, it's bump stop.

0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I'd argue they don't. They don't stop, they go backwards. Yeah,

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's He's that type of player, No doubt.

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>It's even better surefire number one prospect in this draft?

0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Who is it? Is there one? Did you find one

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<v Speaker 1>yet that you feel comfortable saying is the number one

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>player in this draft? Leave? I love the Nelson? Ye say,

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 1>we're worth gonna say the guard arm. Yeah, the Notre

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Dame guard Quentin Nelson to me, if you if you said, okay,

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:58.279
<v Speaker 1>what's the player? And that's why we brought up the

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:01.839
<v Speaker 1>thing about with Gettelman and the giant at the second pick,

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 1>who is the guy that you're gonna plug in and

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play for ten twelve years. So I asked,

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna worry about I asked the question, like,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that gives you the most pause at picking

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 1>this this is that you're just like, there's no doubt

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:16.840
<v Speaker 1>he's a pro bowler. There's just no doubt, Quentin Nelson,

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Guard Notre Dame. Every year we're gonna be talking about

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the matchups on the line, you know. I actually I asked,

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I asked Zach Martin about him back before the guy's

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>left for the year, and you know he outing I know, right,

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 1>he was like, uh, I mean, he was very complimentary.

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:32.239
<v Speaker 1>But I thought it was funny because Travis Frederick was

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.720
<v Speaker 1>standing there and he's like, yeah, he's just the latest

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 1>product product to come out of the new O line.

0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>You can take in a shot at Travis, which I

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 1>thought it was pretty funny. This guy is a little

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.759
<v Speaker 1>anecdote for those guys. Hey, I think as far as

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.879
<v Speaker 1>is sure fire guys, that would be the one guy

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:49.919
<v Speaker 1>that I would think, I'd agree. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>pause about Berkeley? I do. I like Berkeley all. I

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.360
<v Speaker 1>think he's a special player. But um, there are some

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 1>things that worry me about him. He stops his feet

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 1>way too much in the backfield. That worries me. H

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Washing Ohio State tape, you saw a lot of that. Now,

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line he played with didn't do him a

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of favors, but that does give me a little

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 1>bit of pause when evaluating him. You put him in

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:16.040
<v Speaker 1>space and look out. Just talking about the physical traits,

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 1>he's off the charts. But it's also why I had

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a higher grade on Zeke, because because I thought he

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was better with the running back specific traits, his vision,

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 1>his patience, his tempo, the overall decision making at the

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 1>running back position. I give Zeke the edge there, and

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>so I like Berkeley a lot. I'd take him somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten, but I would not one overall.

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:37.919
<v Speaker 1>I would not say he's the best player in this draft. Okay,

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're saying Nelson probably or one of the quarterbacks right,

0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I would say Nelson and Fitzpatrick's in that conversation. For me,

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I really like Darnold, but I would not say he's

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the top player in this draft. You got one more?

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Got one more? Is there a team in this top

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 1>five of the draft that is likely to bail? About

0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the Giants? And so we were talking about whatever show

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<v Speaker 1>that was I when we talked about earlier, how there's

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 1>not five top five players in this draft. You know

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>this isn't Bosa Ze Ramsey type of drafts. Who needs

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the most help on their team in the top five

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of all those groups? Can somebody remind me real Bolts?

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the Colts would be Colts? Got it?

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Colts would be the team I would say would bail

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:22.240
<v Speaker 1>at three? Who's at five? H Broncos? Yeah, I think

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos are gonna stand in their pick. They don't

0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 1>need I mean, Broncos trade up? How about that? Maybe

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Broncos make that deal to get up with

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the Giants. Like if the Giants can drop back just

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to five and pick up some stuff and they don't

0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Nelson and something I'll watch with with the Broncos, they'll

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:40.320
<v Speaker 1>be coaching the North team at the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, I'm totill be in the North team. Yeah,

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I refuse to believe. Close look at those quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 1>I refuse to believe one of those guys is a

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>top five pick. That would blow my mind. Yeah, you

0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 1>never know the first round guy's true. They're already they're

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:58.479
<v Speaker 1>already ready to move to be right in the face

0:58:58.600 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 1>with that one. Sorry, Brian, all right, I'll have them. Hey,

0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much, great, appreciate appreciate you coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>show your top five us. All right, that's what all

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<v Speaker 1>we will have time for today at the Draft show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks everybody out there that's kind of fallen along with us.

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