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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on the your war Room for in Center, news and

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Speaker 1: draft analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters

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Speaker 1: at the Star in for School, Dallas Cowboys Select Ezikiel Elliott,

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Speaker 1: and now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us Welcome to another edition of the Draft Show

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Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. It's your faithful Scouts.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dane Burglar, David Hellman here with you today.

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Speaker 1: Kick Garrison executive producing this thing. We're gonna put a

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Speaker 1: bow on this national championship thing tonight this afternoon, guys,

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Speaker 1: I said, tonight. But what a game? Yeah, what a game?

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Speaker 1: I want to put a bow on this. I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you guys though about if these guys, if

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Speaker 1: anybody elevated their game is did anybody change your mind

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Speaker 1: when it comes to their draft stock? Do we have

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Speaker 1: them too high? Too low? Do we need to consider

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Speaker 1: some other guys? Well? I think that brings up another

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Speaker 1: point about how much do you value a performance on

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Speaker 1: a stage like that? Because you don't want to overvalue

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Speaker 1: one game. But I think there is something to maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of an emphasis towards the games

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Speaker 1: where they mattered that much against top competition. And so

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Speaker 1: durn Payne, for example, Yeah, played the best two games

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Speaker 1: of his life the last two weeks in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: when it really mattered. On one hand, you're impressed. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, why didn't we see this more often?

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Speaker 1: So it's it's something that interesting, you know, dynamic for

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Speaker 1: I think it's just because they didn't test him. He

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Speaker 1: had a very good game. Calvin Ridley same thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I heard from a lot of fans saying, do we

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Speaker 1: really want Calvin Ridley? I'm not seeing it. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: Are we supposed to take the Georgia Ridley or the

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Speaker 1: Alabama Ridley? But when you when you want? If? I was,

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Speaker 1: I was watching the College Coaches version of the Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: is getting open at will. I saw your tweet and Dave,

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Speaker 1: open again, wide open. Yeah, you had no problem beating

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Speaker 1: is that quarterback he couldn't find him in time. And

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Speaker 1: second half to a tum not even going to try

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Speaker 1: and pronounce that last name. Now, I don't have too

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Speaker 1: and this and that he was getting open at will.

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Speaker 1: And again, that's why I love Calvin Riley as a player.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'd love to see him as a Dallas

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Speaker 1: his quarterback a clean target. Just because the Alabama quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: couldn't get it to him doesn't mean that he underwhelmed

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Speaker 1: But I mean that bother you, guys. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: But there's something to be said, like if he can

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Speaker 1: a hell of a place to do it, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all right, great, he doesn't want to play

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Speaker 1: But if he's that talented, and assuming I don't know

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have the same intensity is Don mckinsue, but

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Speaker 1: think he could get you know, followed in nineteen. Not

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Speaker 1: But if he's there at nineteen, is that a no brainer?

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Speaker 1: used these things the same way? Do they? No? They don't. Well,

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Speaker 1: sure there's some folks right now that right now are

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Speaker 1: who are you worried more about the defense of the

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Speaker 1: some receivers not have impact right first year. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: happens all the time. But would Smith have such an

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Speaker 1: That's not the case with Ridley and that's why I

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Speaker 1: don't I expect him to have a instant success, immediate

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Speaker 1: I'm a big believer, and you take the best player

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Speaker 1: if you believe that's Ridley or Smith. But if you

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver is a much deeper position this year in

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Speaker 1: the linebacker I went on, I went on, and artist,

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Speaker 1: I heard you. That makes sense. It's well, it's you

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Speaker 1: took the line right out of Stephen Jones's mouth, BPA

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Speaker 1: round linebackers. Now we didn't answer this question yet, did we. No,

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Speaker 1: And I wonder who on the stack will have a

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Speaker 1: production of Ridley? They're both a little undersized. But again, now, okay,

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435
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Speaker 1: Cowboys not making the trip this year to London. We're

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Speaker 1: all disappointed by that. But I just want to do

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446
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Speaker 1: we're talking about the National Title game, El Guapo wants

447
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Speaker 1: to know Ronnie Harrison. Yeah, guy, we've all looked at

448
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Speaker 1: he is he a strong safety as a free safety?

449
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Speaker 1: How do you feel about him? Where do you got him?

450
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Speaker 1: He's definitely a strong I think that because I would

451
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Speaker 1: all agree on that, and he actually declared this morning.

452
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Speaker 1: I guess, um, so he's officially in this draft. When

453
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Speaker 1: he was left alone in coverage, yeah, thoughts, I wasn't

454
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Speaker 1: too excited about that. I think that I don't think

455
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Speaker 1: he has any catchup speed myself. Yeah, I worry a

456
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Speaker 1: little bit about that. I think he has to play

457
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Speaker 1: down I think I saw a good blitzer, but I

458
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Speaker 1: didn't see a guy with range. When you start talking

459
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Speaker 1: about coverage bothered me a little bit about him. He

460
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Speaker 1: will knock you out as a downhill player, he will

461
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Speaker 1: knock you out. He's a linebacker, yeah, I mean he's

462
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Speaker 1: a he's a physical player and box yeah, I just

463
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Speaker 1: don't see. Like I said, Ian, if you're in a

464
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Speaker 1: obviously with the Cowboys though, if you're looking at it there,

465
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Speaker 1: the way they do things, you know, the safeties, you know,

466
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Speaker 1: you have to be able to have some coverage with

467
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Speaker 1: with Byron Jones has been able to doing Xavier Woods,

468
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Speaker 1: So you know that's I think that's what the I

469
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Speaker 1: don't need another box safety. I'm the Cowboys. He needs

470
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Speaker 1: somebody has a little bit more free to them, which

471
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Speaker 1: well and that's a good segue for Wes, who he

472
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Speaker 1: says are safeties you would take at nineteen. And I'm

473
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Speaker 1: early on. I haven't watched eighty guys or four hundred

474
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Speaker 1: guys like you two, but I have my doubts that

475
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Speaker 1: there's a safety I feel good about in the first round,

476
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Speaker 1: which I which bombs me out because I consider that

477
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Speaker 1: a huge need. I know, y'all are gonna tell me

478
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Speaker 1: Minca Fitzpatrick, maybe you could play safety. I think he's

479
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Speaker 1: off the board way before the Cowboys pick. Yeah, So

480
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Speaker 1: am I wrong? Is there a safety you feel good

481
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Speaker 1: about drafting at nineteen? James? Yeah, there you go, that's

482
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: the name. Yeah, and Derwin James. Here we go. Here's

483
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: a guy that does cover, he does play in the slot,

484
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: he does blitz, he does cause turnovers. He's a pretty

485
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Speaker 1: physical tackler. Yeah. He's the one guy that I kind

486
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Speaker 1: of thought would maybe be a little bit overrated. But

487
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Speaker 1: he's not. I thought, I heard you say you didn't

488
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Speaker 1: know what to make of him. I didn't know what

489
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Speaker 1: to make and go back. I went back and just

490
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: hammered games and hammered games and hammered games on him,

491
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Speaker 1: and the results. He's a better player than I thought

492
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Speaker 1: he was initially. He really really is. Did you watch

493
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Speaker 1: old taper just this year? Nope, just this year. I

494
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Speaker 1: went back. I mean we had some early games in

495
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Speaker 1: the in the box that you know I was able

496
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Speaker 1: to do and I didn't feel I felt like a

497
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Speaker 1: player that guy that floated too much, kind of like okay,

498
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Speaker 1: go get in there. And then you watch him play,

499
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Speaker 1: especially like late in the year they played Florida, and

500
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Speaker 1: it's like he took it personally that closing. Yeah, and

501
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Speaker 1: he's got a burst and maybe he's a guy at

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Speaker 1: nineteen if you're looking at a safety. I don't now

503
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Speaker 1: is he Is he a free You see him Moore

504
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Speaker 1: as a free he has let us is them to

505
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Speaker 1: be a free But I don't think. I don't think

506
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Speaker 1: that's just he's a better athlete than football player right now,

507
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. And that he's a red shirt sophomore.

508
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Speaker 1: He was outstanding as a freshman, missed almost all of

509
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Speaker 1: last year with an injury, and in this past season

510
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Speaker 1: as a red shirt sophomore, you saw Russ after missing

511
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Speaker 1: all of us Yeah, and that's probably why the early

512
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: tape on him is not good. NC State. Yeah, didn't

513
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Speaker 1: look good. Now, if you want to study this guy,

514
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: you gotta go late. And they had a bad season

515
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Speaker 1: by their standards. Yeah, yeah, terrible season by their standards. Absolutely.

516
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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a guy though that I think that

517
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Speaker 1: if you if you want to look at if if

518
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Speaker 1: there's a guy there at nineteen and he could be

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Speaker 1: you know, am I speaking out of turns saying he

520
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Speaker 1: could be there at nineteen? No, I think it's possible.

521
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna put up some impressive numbers at

522
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Speaker 1: the combine and you know, we'll see how that fluctuates

523
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Speaker 1: the stock. But this is a guy who I remember

524
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Speaker 1: he received a scholarship offer at Florida State when he

525
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Speaker 1: was a freshman in high school. Yeah. Like he's just

526
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: always been a freak. That's just kind of who he is,

527
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Speaker 1: and so I think that'll continue at the next level.

528
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Speaker 1: Is just the technical skill I feel like I talked

529
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Speaker 1: about it every week. Is that going to catch up?

530
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Speaker 1: That development? It's something that if he was a cowboy,

531
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Speaker 1: fans should not expect him to be an All pros

532
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Speaker 1: first year. But he's gonna make some splash plays and

533
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Speaker 1: then you just hope that it all. You know, the

534
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: light bulb comes on and it all comes to well,

535
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Speaker 1: he creates some turnovers. Now, great segue for a question

536
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Speaker 1: from Miguel I like this. He wants to know of

537
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Speaker 1: the top you know, of the top fifteen twenty guys,

538
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Speaker 1: like the elite prospects, which one would you have the

539
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: hardest time pulling the trigger on, like the guy that

540
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Speaker 1: you're just like, I don't know. Um, Well, let's take

541
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Speaker 1: quarterback out of the conversation. Yeah, that's okay that it's

542
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: kind of cheating. You can say all the quarterback fair.

543
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Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with Connor Williams. Well, yeah,

544
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Speaker 1: and that's that's a good conversation because Texas offensive. Sorry

545
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: about that, folks. Yeah, you watch the what I'm here

546
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Speaker 1: for twenty six sixteen tape. As a sophomore, he's a

547
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Speaker 1: first round pick. Uh, then you watch and seven team.

548
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: He played awful in the opener against Maryland, and then

549
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: he got hurt and he missed most of the year,

550
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Speaker 1: came back, played well for two games that he was back,

551
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Speaker 1: And so if you're drafting him in the first round,

552
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Speaker 1: it's based on a two hus and sixteen stuff. I

553
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: still want to know what happened in that Maryland game.

554
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: It was just it was awful. It was bad. And

555
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: so do you give day two? Yeah? Yeah, it was

556
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: season opener. Do you give him a pass for that

557
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: and focus just on his sophomore tape because if you do,

558
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: then you're gonna take him in the first round, and

559
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: I think a team will do that. But I do

560
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: think that is a worthy name for this question, because

561
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, you're always going to

562
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: think about that two or ten and seventeen season. You know,

563
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: what the heck happened about arden Key? Oh yeah? And

564
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: that's the reason I didn't immediately say him is because

565
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: does he even count as a top twenty player in

566
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Speaker 1: this class? Because of you think somebody will? Do you

567
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: think somebody will turn a blind eye to all the

568
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: off field stuff? David? I mean, you know those LSU

569
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: players just as good as me. You know, I would.

570
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Speaker 1: I'm tempted. How are they gonna sell arden Key when

571
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: they go in and talk to coach oh and everybody

572
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: there at LSU. How they're gonna sell arden Key to

573
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: these scouts? That's I think that's the million dollar question,

574
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: And it's it's a loaded bag saying this, so I

575
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: don't say it lightly. But he's gonna get compared to

576
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. Yes, just is because he's the same type

577
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: of player. He's a he's a freakish athlete, looks like

578
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: a three four rangey guy. I mean, he jumps off

579
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: any tape that you watch. Even this year when he

580
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: was hurt, I thought he wasn't as good as last

581
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: year when he had like sixteen sacks or whatever it was.

582
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: But he still jumps off the tape. But injuries, off

583
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: field stuff, I just based on what I've seen of him,

584
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: I would imagine it's still enough to draft him in

585
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: the top twenty. But Randy Gregory fell all the way

586
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: to sixty. Yeah, And like I mean, you know, Randy

587
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Gregory failed a drug test at the combine. Like there's

588
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: a lot of digging to still be done on arden Key. So,

589
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: like I said, it's it's probably premature and not fair

590
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: to drop that label on him, but I think his

591
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: off field and everything that comes with him is going

592
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: to be highly scrutinized. I think people are fearful of

593
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: the LSU defensive end in these drafts just overall. I

594
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: mean the last the one that went high was what mingo.

595
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean, it hasn't happened that often.

596
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: It's not like LSU doesn't stay out these monstrous the

597
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: ends they put, they put guys, these defensive linemen. I mean,

598
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: Brockers has been pretty good. Rockers has had a really

599
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: nice career, Benny Logan has had a really nice career. Um,

600
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: but Mingo Mingo is one of the worst busts of

601
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: the last decade or so. So I mean that's fair,

602
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know that it's enough. I think, I think, yeah,

603
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: I think like David says, I think that you look

604
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: at talk about top twenty. He's got top twenty talent,

605
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: but is he really a top twenty player when you

606
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: when you put in all the things, the same thing

607
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: was said, you said it Randy Gregory. Everybody talked about

608
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory as a top ten player, top five Nebraska,

609
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh Gregory, Gregory, greg That's all I ever heard. And

610
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett got talked into drafting him. Here. I don't

611
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: see that happened in this year. No. I would imagine

612
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will steer way clear of him, but that

613
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: doesn't mean somebody else won't. And like I said, months

614
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: to go, I mean, right, there's a lot of a

615
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: lot of homework we have to do. And I'm gonna

616
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: give you three more names about players that give me

617
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of pause in the top potential Top

618
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: twenty picks. Christian Wilkins, the three technical Clemson. Yeah, terrific

619
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: athlete and the highlights look great. Just consistent season issue. Um.

620
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson, Iowa. Yeah, there you go. I need my

621
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Speaker 1: corners to tackle. See. This is where I got in

622
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: some Twitter discussions and they were like, no, no, he tackles. Well,

623
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Speaker 1: I'm like what game. I was like, what are you

624
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: talking about here? Don't do this tours the corners. They

625
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: don't need to be great tackles. Oh they had a

626
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: kid that tackled last year. Yeah, they did, Desmond King.

627
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: But just look like he's just get him on the grounds.

628
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: Look like you want to at least like get in

629
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Speaker 1: his way and wait for the slow him down so

630
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: somebody else can make it. Yeah, exactly, so Jewel can

631
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: run over and tackle the guy. I need you. I

632
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: need you do it. Look at least look like you

633
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: want to do it, even if you're not that great

634
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: at it. What that guy left a bad taste in

635
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Speaker 1: Josh Jackson Christian Wilkinson. The third one I was gonna

636
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: mention was Harold Landry, the past rusher from Boston College

637
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: who came into the senior year with high expectations and

638
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: he didn't live up to him and battled ankle injury.

639
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Uh and you know that kind of that played a

640
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: part in the whole conversation. But still there there's worry

641
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: a little bit about Harold Landry, a potential top twenty pick,

642
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: but there are some questions, a lot of questions about him.

643
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: What happened to that player from last year? And that's

644
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that the guy, I mean, he had

645
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: what sixteen sacks? Right right? Right? Yeah? Yeah, where's the

646
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: player this year? I was surprised he came back to school.

647
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: Uh you know, and maybe he should have came out early.

648
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: But I mean he's he wanted a shot out the

649
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: playoff Dane, Boston College, the Eagles, Yeah, cross hockey, Yeah exactly,

650
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna get a chieved to go to the Senior Bowl.

651
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what he could himself. Okay, while

652
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: people there maybe yeah, good week at the Senior Bowl.

653
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: The senior season will be forgotten, yeah, or close to it. Yeah,

654
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: Jorge wants to know other than Calvin Ridley, big impact

655
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Whatever. Take that to me, whatever you want,

656
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: whether that's first round whatever, but receivers. I view that

657
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: as a receiver that's gonna help from day one. I

658
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: think we agree on the number two wide receiver in

659
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: this class, right, Christian Kirk Right, And I think we

660
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: expect him to. He made an instant impact at A

661
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: and M as a true freshman, actually has sued best

662
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: season as a freshman. Um. I think he can make

663
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: an instant impact. Who's your third receiver? More from Washed

664
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: from Maryland's Jay, more of him? See now again, this

665
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: is Brian brought us stirring away from the sequoias. You're

666
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna poison everybody again. No, I'm not trying to poison anybody.

667
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: But if anybody watches his football team, what was the problem.

668
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'll use my line I used

669
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and when I was thirty five years old

670
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: that press conference team needs players. Team needs players, need

671
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: some guys who can run. You guys, watch this game.

672
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Do you know who we need? I say that I

673
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: encourage anyone who doesn't know what Brian's talking about to

674
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: go find the video. I'll post it later. Yeah, me

675
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: with hair talking about hey and like wait, wait two

676
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: and five pounds and two Dave. This team needs receivers

677
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: that can run routes and not goes. There we go, yeah,

678
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: there we go. That's not so hard. It's not so hard.

679
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: So Kirk can run routes, Kirk yea. DJ Moore can

680
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: run DJ Moore And you know what, DJ Moore could

681
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: probably catch the ball better than Kirk. I don't I

682
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: don't say this often, and I think the Steve Smith

683
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: comparisons get overused for those two are just more. DJ

684
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: Moore gives off a Steve Smith vibe. Yeah, give me

685
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: a guy with a chip on his shoulder. That's mean

686
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: that we'll go get the ball anywhere and we'll get

687
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: and cand separate. Give me that guy got so many

688
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks he went through at Maryland last three years, not one,

689
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: not two different quarterbacks. Like, so it's not like there

690
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: wasn't there's not a built in excuse there. Uh, you

691
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: know he with some the other receivers. You point to

692
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: the quarterback play up and down. Saint Brown from Notre Dame.

693
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: His stats fell off without Kaiser Audum take the last

694
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: two years with two freshman quarterbacks. His stats not what

695
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: you want from a top player. Then you have Dj Moore,

696
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: who became the third ever player at Maryland to go

697
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards receiving in a year, set the

698
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Maryland record for catches this past season. I think I

699
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: can get him at fifty. I don't think so, but

700
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Kind of short, maybe that

701
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: drops him down a little bit. As you say, if

702
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: he if he measures five ten, then he's gonna walk

703
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: out of that room feeling good because he's probably like

704
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: five nine and a half. I'll tell you what, he's

705
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: a football player. He's fantastic. Like I said Steve Smith

706
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: vibe on that tape. Yeah, so yeah, I think if

707
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: we don't, if you don't look at Calvin Riley in

708
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: the first you're you have to figure out, Okay, where's

709
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: the value for Christian Kirk, DJ Moore, Anthony Miller is

710
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: in that conversation for me, Memphis right wide receiver from Memphis.

711
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: And then so I think those are the top four.

712
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: And then that's maybe when you start talking about the

713
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: bigger guys Courtland Sutton. Yeah, guys like that there was

714
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: coming to play and James Washington is the one where

715
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: boys Scott from Jalil Scott from Mexico State. I watched him.

716
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: If you haven't had a chance to watch Jalil Scott

717
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: play from New Mexico State, can go get it. If

718
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: you can get the Arizona State game. Have fun nine

719
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: catches from one seventies. He is like his best games

720
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: were gets big time competition Arizona State, Arkansas. What's his backstory, Dane,

721
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Because he's a he's a junior co IOWA, junior college

722
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: guy from South Carolina, South Carolina. There's a little bit

723
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: of baggage there. Um, I don't want to go into it,

724
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: like me the full story, but there there's some background

725
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: stuff that teams are gonna have to work through and

726
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: that could hurt him a little bit. But it's something

727
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: all over the place. Yeah. On the field, that routes

728
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: are all over the place. You know, he's not a

729
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: very refined player, but in you can throw it, you know,

730
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: three feet over his head and he'll go get it.

731
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: He will get it along the sidelines. He'll do it

732
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: body control balanced. I mean, you see Jeff Kavanaugh from

733
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: one oh five three was watching tape. He said he

734
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: was Randy Moss without the speed. I hate comparing people

735
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: to Randy Moss. It's just a lot. I'm a going

736
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: to getting the football saying getting the football. Yeah, you know,

737
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: a tall, lean guy. He's like the Kevin Durant in

738
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: terms of body types for prospects. You know, he's just

739
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: he's tall, just very lean, skinny. Uh. You see that

740
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: over the middle. He's not the toughest guy over the

741
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: middle of the field. It's funny his routes. When he

742
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: runs across the middle, he goes back instead of going

743
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: down the line, he goes back towards the quarterbacks. He's

744
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: a lot of fun I think he can make you

745
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: put him in red zone situations. He can stretch the

746
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: field too. He's got a little bit of speed he does.

747
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: He's not a slow gan. Where does where does um

748
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: James Washington for two rank on all this Oklahoma's and

749
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: that's we get a lot of questions about James Washington. Um.

750
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: I like James Washington. I think he's a solid like

751
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: a second rounder. But the routes worry me. Uh. But

752
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: down the field vertically is great, strong hands, strong fingers,

753
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: strong wrists. The ball sticks to his hands, so very reliable.

754
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: But he's not a guy that's gonna just get open

755
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: at will yea routes. And he's not the biggest guy's

756
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: about six foot. I mean he's got a little It's okay,

757
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: Golden Tate in terms of size, he's not the biggest

758
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: guy at six foot, but where we're all in love

759
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: with a guy who's five nine and a half. So

760
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: it's true different. Yeah, it's fair. I'm I'm gonna get

761
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: it with Washington, though, I got I got a question

762
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: one more, Dave, who can you get your tailor in here?

763
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: I really want you to answer this our tribe, Brian.

764
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: It's good. It's a good question from Joe, and it's

765
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: not about players. But what do you think the Cowboys

766
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: would do if Will McClay ever did leave? Like is

767
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: there an understudy here? You know what? That's that's a

768
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: very good question, because to be honest with you, I

769
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: don't think they have a guy that like Will McClay

770
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: like in the building. No, I don't think. I don't

771
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: think they have a guy that knows how we talked

772
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: about the triangle the other day. The Jones is, the scouts,

773
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: the coaches. I think Will McClay is outstanding at bringing

774
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: all those together and making sure that they're all on

775
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: the same page. I don't know if they nestionarily have

776
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: a guy like that. The problem is, and this is

777
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: where I was having this conversation about general managers that

778
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: you would hire and this is no shot at college scouts. Okay,

779
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: but I would hire a general manager that has a

780
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: background in pro personnel. I've got to know who's playing

781
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: in the league. I've got to know who's playing in

782
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: my division. Brian Guducus is a good scout for the

783
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers who was just named general manager. Brian

784
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: Kutigas can't tell you who the backup tight end is

785
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: with Chicago Bears. He can't tell you who their nickel

786
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: rushiers in Minnesota, and he can't tell you who the

787
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: left tackle is for the Detroit Lions. You have got

788
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: to know your teams in your division in order to

789
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: build your team to defeat teams in your division, to

790
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: win the division, to get in the playoffs. So in

791
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: a world I'm not saying excuse, I'm not saying every

792
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: scout that's a college scout can't be a great general manager.

793
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, give me a guy that understands

794
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: the league, and give me some scouts underneath them that

795
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: could help me with the college side, and I will

796
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: and I would imagine, I mean, and they're heavy the

797
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: other way here. Not to trivialize it, I mean, it's

798
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: it's hard work and it's important work. But I mean,

799
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: you know the league. I mean, you can watch tape

800
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: and identify college players, especially if you have people helping

801
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: you do it. College guys tend to work on a

802
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: draft and then forget the draft. Yeah, they go year

803
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: to year. Yeah, that's a problem. You got to know

804
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: who's playing in this league in order to have some success.

805
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: So in a world where Will does one day leave

806
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I would have to imagine they would have

807
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,480
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808
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: and again the guys overascinating guys over there's some good scouts,

809
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: but I don't think they have another Will McClay in

810
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,440
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Speaker 1: the Boys no matter what. That's why when the game's

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Speaker 1: on the line, you're on your feet, whether you're at

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Speaker 1: home or in the stands. Actually, you're more than a fan.

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Speaker 1: You are a member of Cowboys Nation, and so is

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Speaker 1: Cowboy dot Com Draft you We're back here. The SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios Brian brought us Dane Brugler, David Hellman, joined

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Speaker 1: now by Taylor Stern. Hello everyone, Hello Taylor, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program. I want to get Taylor involved because check

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Speaker 1: lady right here knows her college football. She's learned a

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Speaker 1: lot about pro football. I appreciate some of the conversations

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Speaker 1: that I have with her about all this and the

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Speaker 1: draft stuff. So she's come up with some questions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that that that's going to challenge us

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Speaker 1: to do that. So I just want to bring her

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Speaker 1: in and see make this a weekly thing with you.

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Speaker 1: Take hot take Tay. Yes, what do you got for

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Speaker 1: us today? On it? It is? It is serious business

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Speaker 1: here and Dane, you know, I questioned Dane. Everyone knows

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Speaker 1: that Dane is grinding away three sixty five fifty two

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Speaker 1: weeks of the year. What do you get bummdy didn't

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Speaker 1: bring donuts today, but but I'll ask questions nonetheless. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: running backs, You guys know that I was a big

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Speaker 1: proponent for a zy Gullets were going up there high

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Speaker 1: at four over all, four of the Cowboys. Now in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand and eight, there were four

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Speaker 1: running backs drafted in the first round. Does that happen

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Speaker 1: again this year? Could both of them be coming from Georgia?

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Speaker 1: Could it be the Penn State? Great? Yeah, so over

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00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 1: under four running backs in the first round. I've taken

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Speaker 1: the under. I know you are, you're a hater. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under two. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be close though, because I see close,

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Speaker 1: I see three. Okay, I think the first round thirty

881
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: two picks. I think, I mean Barkley is a lock.

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Speaker 1: He's a lock. It's gonna be the fourth one. If

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Speaker 1: it is, it's Barkley, Johnson, probably Jones. Okay, you guys

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Speaker 1: love carry On Johnson. Yeah, you like him more than

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Speaker 1: Ronald Jones. I have Barkley, guys, Jones, Johnson, Jones, those

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Speaker 1: are the yeah, your adults son, my large adult son,

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Speaker 1: Darius guys. I think he's a first round lock. Like

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Speaker 1: if all four of those players went the round, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't I'd have no problem with it. I think Ronald

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00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones is seriously impressive. Man, He's very impressive. Hes

891
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles, he never loses his balance in the Bond

892
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: Guy in the Gift, Oh he's not And like Linky Night.

893
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: Think he's not powerful, but like he just shakes off everything.

894
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: He runs so hard that his momentum creates power. But

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Speaker 1: you're right, he's like a two hundred, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: three pound back. I absolutely love him, and I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think Kenny Native shout out North Texas true. I

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Speaker 1: think Barkley guys and Jones all go in the first.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about care. I think this is a shot.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say yes because I'm gonna think

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna fall in love with with love late in

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Speaker 1: the draft. Sony Michelle did nothing for you, Dave. I

903
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Speaker 1: like Sony Michelle. I think Dane's probably right though, like

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Speaker 1: it's it's recency bias, like you've seen him play in

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Speaker 1: these big games, like he's probably a second or third

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Speaker 1: round pick. I don't think I draft him in the first.

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Speaker 1: I gave over the summer a game of second round grade.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that should change. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: solid second round player, and that's that's not a bad.

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Speaker 1: Thick Chubb who's been in college football for about twenty

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Speaker 1: years now, he's done nothing for you. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle hanging around because I'd love to add him

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Speaker 1: to this team if he's still there. You get a

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Speaker 1: lot of these teams are gonna look at it and say, well,

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Speaker 1: we could take a carry on Johnson, here are Darius

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Speaker 1: guys here in late first round, or we just wait

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Speaker 1: to the second round and get a Chubb, get a

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Speaker 1: you know, one of these second round backs. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's that type of mindset. With the running backs

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Speaker 1: and receivers. We could only see maybe one or two

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Speaker 1: receivers in the first only two or three running backs

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Speaker 1: in the first. So I would go the under. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: you guys are talking about surplus, and I have another question.

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Speaker 1: If my team needs a blank, my team is in

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Speaker 1: luck the obvious ones. I say, running back and receiver

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Speaker 1: who we just talked about. Yeah, based two receiver for sure, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two positions where you feel good about feel good about

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Speaker 1: these any corners? I think corners A great corner is

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Speaker 1: a great position this year. Uh. We know teams every

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Speaker 1: team needs more corner hill. Uh. And I think in

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Speaker 1: the first round, secon round, a third round, there's plenty

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Speaker 1: of depth in each round. How many first round corners

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Speaker 1: do you have on your board right now? I haven't

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Speaker 1: done them all, but uh, I've done them before. I've

935
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Speaker 1: got I've got two Warden Fitzpatrick. Okay, I didn't put

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Speaker 1: Jackson in there. Say even Jackson, Alexander and Davis from Auburn.

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Speaker 1: Jackson's a first round pick even if he think, even

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't like to tackle, Yeah, I still like

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Speaker 1: he's an accept I just got him in a spot

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Speaker 1: that I know he's there, but I'm a little nervous

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Speaker 1: about that. I like my guys to tackle a little

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Speaker 1: bit on the edge. Yeah, yeah, you see what these

943
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Speaker 1: two corners did here. Don't you like? Don't you like

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks who can cover receivers and get interception. I do

945
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Speaker 1: like Marcus Peters doesn't like to tackle. No, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: He's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, Corners Alexander, And that's what I'm saying, Alexander. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean even a guy like Tarvarus McFadden from Florida

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Speaker 1: State and get him in the second or third round.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a position that has a lot of depth

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Speaker 1: with these underclassmen. I'm looking at my ranking right now.

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00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: I have one four twelve underclassmen in my top fifteen corners.

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Speaker 1: So this underclassmen group has helped the corners a lot.

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Speaker 1: How many players have you watched so far? I couldn't

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Speaker 1: give you a number. God, I'm sorry, give him a break.

955
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Speaker 1: You're gonna watch some more after we get done with this.

956
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: Media scouts are too high on this guy. Usually it

957
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Speaker 1: is receivers. Look at the Kuan Treadwell. Who with the

958
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: media guys too high on. I mean, initially I thought

959
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Speaker 1: it was James. Usually I thought it was it was him.

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00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: I got some quarterbacks, some of these saderbacks. I think

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Speaker 1: they're a little overrated. Oh, I got one for you.

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Speaker 1: Quarter I mean quarterback, because you can pick these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: apart for a variety of it. I can't that I'm

964
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Speaker 1: terrible at the position, but like you can watch their

965
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: tape and find plenty to be wrong about him too,

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Speaker 1: But you can find plenty to be critical of. Sure,

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00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: I got one for you, Dane Bradley Chubb. You think

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00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: just another Chub just in terms not that he not

969
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: that he's not a good player. I'm not trying to

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00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: say that, but I've watched him. You didn't. He's the

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Speaker 1: guy like you do. You do a way too soon

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00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: mock the day after every draft, right, he was if

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Speaker 1: I had to guess he was probably in like your

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Speaker 1: top five or no, he was. Actually that's because you're

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00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: great at what you do. But he was in a

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Speaker 1: lot of people's top five. Had been he's been. He's

977
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Speaker 1: been the guy that we've been hyping as one of

978
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Speaker 1: the best prospects in this draft for multiple years, like since,

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00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: he's been like a softmore that Nelson. I just I've

980
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: heard a lot about Bradley Chubb, and when I watched him,

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Speaker 1: I was like, he's good, but he doesn't like he's

982
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: not Miles Garrett like he does, I don't think. But

983
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: but what I'm like, he gets talked about like he is,

984
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: at least in my opinion. I gave him a second

985
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: round grade over the summer boom based on his junior tape,

986
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: but then this year as a senior, he amped it up.

987
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: He did amped it up. Dave Taylor's just here as

988
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: usual to just make life. I know, But I think

989
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: that's fair because he's not a Miles Garrett. Not saying

990
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: he's not a good player. I'm not even saying he's

991
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: not a first round pick. He's just not that transcendent

992
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: top five guy. A problem with that is this draft

993
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: doesn't have five of those guys. That's fair. Yeah, you know,

994
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: like this draft doesn't have ten top ten picks. You know,

995
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: you wouldn't take him over. You certainly wouldn't take him

996
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: over Garrett and I don't think you'd take him over

997
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas either. Right about Josh Allen at the beginning

998
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: of this year, Yeah, Josh Allen, Yeah, he's if we're

999
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: gonna talk about guys that are people a little bit overrated? Yeah, yeah.

1000
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: It always happens that media guys catch up after the

1001
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: combine to really what's going on in the scouting world.

1002
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: That's the media scouts, with the exception of my colleagues here,

1003
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: um who do grind on the tape. I think Malik

1004
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: Jefferson's another one. I think a lot of people, yeahs

1005
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: bands and a lot of people in the media. I

1006
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: think he's a first round pick. I just don't see it.

1007
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: A lot of angry Longhorns, I know, and hey, no,

1008
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: but some of them admitted, some of mid Mitt that

1009
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: he didn't play well. I love Puna Ford, So it's

1010
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: not all Texas players, all right. I a second round

1011
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in this draft. Who's my guy? You fell

1012
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: in love with one yesterday, didn't he Oh gosh, Hernandez

1013
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: or Quisenberry Hernandez. Yeah, U tap guys Hernandez Right, Hernandez,

1014
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: He's he's got bear claws for hands. He's so strong.

1015
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: This guy is square, he's tough, he's a finisher, and

1016
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: for three hundred and thirty something pounds, he can move.

1017
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: I would plug him in right now at left guard

1018
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: here and go. I really would. And I like the

1019
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: and I like the Quisenberry kid from UCLA the center.

1020
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't know he's athletic enough to maybe play guard. Yeah,

1021
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: but her Nandez is a guy that I again, U tap,

1022
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: poor team didn't win a game this year, But you

1023
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: watch the tape of this guy play, he will get

1024
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: your attention. I want a guard named Quisenberry. Now I

1025
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Speaker 1: can't Jersey Well, you said no, you're right on with

1026
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez. I think he's right up there. Uh. This

1027
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: is a guy who had bad grades in high school,

1028
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: and so the bigger school is backed off. Utube was

1029
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: the only school that stayed on him. Is mean, and

1030
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: he rewards he well, he remembers that he plays with

1031
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: a chip and he can move. You're right, yeah, if

1032
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: he's left, you know, one on one battles. He's gonna

1033
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: win those, you know, every time. So I think Braden

1034
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: Smith from Auburn's another guard. Ever, I had problems with

1035
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: Braden sith I did. I like him. I think he's

1036
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Speaker 1: in the second mix. And then Isaiah Win from Georgia.

1037
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: There we left tackle, who I think is going to

1038
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: be a starter at guard. I think he's also in

1039
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: that early day two conversation. I like it. Christian Kirk,

1040
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: somebody that everyone knows in this region. Is he really

1041
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: just a slot receiver? He was at A and M

1042
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: and that's what I think. I've talked to some Scots

1043
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 1: about this. He had a first round slot receiver. They're

1044
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: they're torn on this because they want to see it.

1045
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: You think he can do it. I think he could

1046
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: play outside. I think he can too. I just don't

1047
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: know if he'll be as effective. What's his current hype? Ah?

1048
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: He is five six, I believes, right, yeah, six right

1049
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: right at five to eleven five one zero six, that's him.

1050
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: I think he can play pounds though side. If he

1051
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: can't play outside, that's scary. I don't don't tell me again.

1052
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: It's just that he's never he was a slot only

1053
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: receiver at and I tell you what, we need to

1054
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: go down to A and M the pro day and

1055
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: see what receivers. Yeah. Yeah, if you're more welcome to

1056
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: anybody wants to come on. But is that Are you

1057
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: really going to learn anything from that? Yeah, but let's

1058
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: see who's working him out and see if they're working

1059
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: him out outside, if they're making him do stuff outside stuff. Yeah,

1060
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: because a big part of it's going to be he's

1061
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: a first round player for me, he's a second receiver

1062
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I have on the board. Can he separate versus press?

1063
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: Can you know when he doesn't have when he has

1064
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: a sideline to his right and he really you know,

1065
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: there's only so many things he can do with his release.

1066
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the open field like in the slot.

1067
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: Will he be as effective instan separation. I'm not trying

1068
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: to spend pick nineteen on a guy who can't play outside,

1069
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: So let's figure that out A good questions. I don't

1070
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: think it's it's that he can't. It's just that we

1071
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: don't know for sure that he can, And it's just

1072
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a projection to say that he

1073
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: will because we haven't seen him do it. Scary. Well,

1074
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: he's gonna run every bit of fourth though, get ready

1075
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: for Yeah, he's four he's a really really good speed

1076
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: that as a punt returner, he's gonna make a big

1077
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: impact too. So the Cowboys are already said at return,

1078
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: So we're good. All right. Another guy I want to

1079
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: know about what position? Do you think that train? Maine Edmonds,

1080
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Virginia Tech. Can he play in the league?

1081
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: Which one can't? He plays the baller, he can play

1082
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: them all. I don't. I don't you want to take

1083
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: him at nineteen? I have no problem taking him nineteen. Yeah,

1084
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: he can play strong, he could play. He put his

1085
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: hand in the ground and rush off the edge. He's

1086
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: six four two forty five. You talk about him helm

1087
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: and you watched him last night. Well that's We actually

1088
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: had a twitter on the twenty question that we didn't

1089
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: get to and somebody said, you know, if Roquan Smith

1090
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: isn't there is there another linebacker that is? And I

1091
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: think that's your guy. Yeah, there's only two linebackers. I've

1092
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: given first round grades too. On Okay again, I'm gonna

1093
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: do that. I don't player comparison suck. But and he's

1094
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: not as athletic. He's definitely not as athletic. But like

1095
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: I thought, I was thinking about Jalen Smith while I

1096
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: was watching him, not just because of the dreads, but

1097
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: like they use him as a pass rusher. He's a

1098
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: big dude. He's four two forty five, Like he's very large.

1099
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: I think you could use him in certain pass rush situations.

1100
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: He's got the athleticism to play multiple linebacker spots, and

1101
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: he hits really hard, just like Jalen does. So it

1102
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: would be his best position. I think that's what she

1103
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: wants to know. Best position. Uh. In this scheme, I

1104
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: would play him at Mike right, I would lean. I'd

1105
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: play at Mike myself. I would lean Mike. Yeah, in

1106
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: this scheme, Uh, I would like to see him at

1107
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: a three to four. That'd be fun. Yeah, if you

1108
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: if him and Jalen Smith were in the same linebacker corps,

1109
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: you're talking about like one of the biggest linebacker at

1110
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: least for four. Yeah. Two guys are like almost two fifty.

1111
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I got two defensive ends playing

1112
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: Michael Hey, I'm all about it, especially if you you know,

1113
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: people talk about the defensive tackle position as a problem here, Like,

1114
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: if you don't have beef upfront, you might as well

1115
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: have two check. Can't you remember Ferrell Edmunds his dad? Yeah,

1116
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: tight End, Yeah, he's this guy grew up with the NFL.

1117
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: He knows what it's like to be a professional. It's

1118
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: a good player on that Virginia check tape or a

1119
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: And for a guy that big, he doesn't look uncomfortable

1120
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: and coverage, No, he does. He's carrying guys up the field,

1121
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: you tight Ends. He can cover running backs, he can

1122
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 1: move up the field and doesn't look like he's lost

1123
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: laboring at all. Yeah, the motor is stuck in turbo.

1124
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: He's got the character you want to so I think

1125
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: he's I like when he hits people, they stop. Jayleen's

1126
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: got that trade him will stop. Yeah, yeah, it's bump stop.

1127
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: I'd argue they don't. They don't stop, they go backwards. Yeah,

1128
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: I mean he's He's that type of player, No doubt.

1129
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: It's even better surefire number one prospect in this draft?

1130
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: Who is it? Is there one? Did you find one

1131
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: yet that you feel comfortable saying is the number one

1132
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: player in this draft? Leave? I love the Nelson? Ye say,

1133
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: we're worth gonna say the guard arm. Yeah, the Notre

1134
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Dame guard Quentin Nelson to me, if you if you said, okay,

1135
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: what's the player? And that's why we brought up the

1136
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: thing about with Gettelman and the giant at the second pick,

1137
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: who is the guy that you're gonna plug in and

1138
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna play for ten twelve years. So I asked,

1139
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: you're not gonna worry about I asked the question, like,

1140
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: the guy that gives you the most pause at picking

1141
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: this this is that you're just like, there's no doubt

1142
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: he's a pro bowler. There's just no doubt, Quentin Nelson,

1143
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: Guard Notre Dame. Every year we're gonna be talking about

1144
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: the matchups on the line, you know. I actually I asked,

1145
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: I asked Zach Martin about him back before the guy's

1146
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: left for the year, and you know he outing I know, right,

1147
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: he was like, uh, I mean, he was very complimentary.

1148
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: But I thought it was funny because Travis Frederick was

1149
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: standing there and he's like, yeah, he's just the latest

1150
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: product product to come out of the new O line.

1151
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: You can take in a shot at Travis, which I

1152
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty funny. This guy is a little

1153
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: anecdote for those guys. Hey, I think as far as

1154
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: is sure fire guys, that would be the one guy

1155
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: that I would think, I'd agree. Do you have any

1156
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: pause about Berkeley? I do. I like Berkeley all. I

1157
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: think he's a special player. But um, there are some

1158
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: things that worry me about him. He stops his feet

1159
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: way too much in the backfield. That worries me. H

1160
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: Washing Ohio State tape, you saw a lot of that. Now,

1161
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line he played with didn't do him a

1162
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: lot of favors, but that does give me a little

1163
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: bit of pause when evaluating him. You put him in

1164
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: space and look out. Just talking about the physical traits,

1165
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: he's off the charts. But it's also why I had

1166
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: a higher grade on Zeke, because because I thought he

1167
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: was better with the running back specific traits, his vision,

1168
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: his patience, his tempo, the overall decision making at the

1169
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: running back position. I give Zeke the edge there, and

1170
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: so I like Berkeley a lot. I'd take him somewhere

1171
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: in the top ten, but I would not one overall.

1172
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: I would not say he's the best player in this draft. Okay,

1173
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: and you're saying Nelson probably or one of the quarterbacks right,

1174
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: I would say Nelson and Fitzpatrick's in that conversation. For me,

1175
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: I really like Darnold, but I would not say he's

1176
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: the top player in this draft. You got one more?

1177
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: Got one more? Is there a team in this top

1178
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: five of the draft that is likely to bail? About

1179
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: the Giants? And so we were talking about whatever show

1180
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: that was I when we talked about earlier, how there's

1181
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: not five top five players in this draft. You know

1182
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: this isn't Bosa Ze Ramsey type of drafts. Who needs

1183
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: the most help on their team in the top five

1184
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: of all those groups? Can somebody remind me real Bolts?

1185
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: Do you think the Colts would be Colts? Got it?

1186
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 1: Colts would be the team I would say would bail

1187
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: at three? Who's at five? H Broncos? Yeah, I think

1188
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos are gonna stand in their pick. They don't

1189
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: need I mean, Broncos trade up? How about that? Maybe

1190
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: maybe the Broncos make that deal to get up with

1191
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: the Giants. Like if the Giants can drop back just

1192
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: to five and pick up some stuff and they don't

1193
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: Nelson and something I'll watch with with the Broncos, they'll

1194
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: be coaching the North team at the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

1195
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, I'm totill be in the North team. Yeah,

1196
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: I refuse to believe. Close look at those quarterbacks that

1197
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: I refuse to believe one of those guys is a

1198
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: top five pick. That would blow my mind. Yeah, you

1199
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: never know the first round guy's true. They're already they're

1200
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 1: already ready to move to be right in the face

1201
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: with that one. Sorry, Brian, all right, I'll have them. Hey,

1202
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: thanks so much, great, appreciate appreciate you coming in and

1203
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: show your top five us. All right, that's what all

1204
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: we will have time for today at the Draft show.

1205
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody out there that's kind of fallen along with us.

1206
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