WEBVTT - Business Roundtable with Jonathan Stewart 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:13.039 Steve Smith Senior and and this is cut to it. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:17.279 Good do good do what they're getting down to? Do it? 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.360 Good do it. We asked the questions you always want 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.799 to know, but no one ever asked, let's cut to it. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.400 You ain't heard him about it? Then we're about to 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:41.280 let you know it's all that's great idea. So we 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.200 got Jonathan Stewart and in the Stewie what's up studio? 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.840 I don't want to say in the building because hey, 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.960 side side no a d D side note. I was 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:56.000 in Atlanta and there's this dude who is who is uh? 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.560 Just Carmel brother with uh. He was ballheaded and he 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.240 was like he had he had a Michael Jersey. You 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:08.040 call another brother Corble. When I tell you who it was, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.000 you see why I'm I'm I'm building up so right, 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:17.920 so I'm looking. I'm like, he's like, what up, smitty bro? 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:23.720 It was big Tigo. You could have just told us 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.120 it was a big you just didn't say the Caramel. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.600 I was on the field doing our thing and he 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.680 was like, yo, Smithy, you know what I want someone 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.400 look at me and be like, oh the butter Scott 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.080 to dude over there. It was the point of right, 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.440 did you ask him what was his favorite freestyle from 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.440 the basement? You did not take advantage of opportunity. I 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.080 took advantage of the opportunity in which this podcast will 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.480 benefit from later. All right. We text there and I 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.840 was like, well, I ask when he base Smith? Right, yo, Yo, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.560 it was just awesome. So I haven't come on the 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.560 show absolutely in Atlanta, like he was like, it was 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.600 so awesome. I don't know why I went there, but 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:13.720 it just made it triggered it. Yeah, but then we've 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.800 got something. You've got some special. We got something special. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.440 Oh yeah, because in the building blah blah, and just 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:25.040 talking about you've been retiring now how long three years 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.839 you play? You had a great professional career. You're also 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.399 now in business. You've realized and you've seen some businesses 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.679 they're still gentlemen worked in corporate America on their own 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:42.200 businesses as well. What do you think about corporate America? 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.000 I mean, that's such a broad question, and I love 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:49.520 asking a broad question because how you answer tells me 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:53.639 to taste that corporate America, Paul's has left in your mouth, right, 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.600 and and and some of it is good worked with you, 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:01.919 so I know, really good. Some of it you'd be like, straight, yeah, good. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.320 I mean I've I've been. And again it's it's such 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.200 a multifaceted question because I've been, to your point, I've 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.000 worked in corporate America. I've worked for Fortune five companies. 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:12.560 I worked for Lows, I work for Dick sport and 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.560 Goods and marketing. I worked in pro sports, so I 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.679 worked for the Hornets, worked in nonprofit you know, rand 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.120 your foundation, and and and now I'm mental entrepreneurship. And 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.760 so I've been able to look at in a broad 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.320 stroke business in a very wide lens. But then when 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.960 you say specifically corporate America, corporate America just makes me 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.720 go to the to the retail stuff that I did, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.640 And it is that's your perspective. So that's what I love. Yeah, 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.080 it is because everything everything isn't corporate America. Right. Pro 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:46.160 sports isn't necessarily corporate America. Their corporate America influences when 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.040 you talk about sponsorships and all of that. But specifically 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.520 when you think about corporate America, there's a lot of good, right, 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.560 there's a lot of being able to climb that corporate 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.440 ladder and deal with the office politics and be able 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.800 to have the nice come to bull four oh one 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.320 K plan and the pension plan and the benefits and 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.440 which which you absolutely need. Um. And but then there's 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.720 the the rat race, so to speak, to get there 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.360 and um. For me, one of the things that always 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.599 struggled with in in corporate America was seeing a path 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.880 to navigate in which to aspire to attain and and 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.279 even if I really want to do that, do I 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:30.000 want to be a CEO, A c CEO, uh, you know, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:34.000 whatever the title you put on that is that what 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.760 I want to do. And so that's always been one 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.400 of those things for me. So, I mean there's so 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.000 many different ways that I can do it. In a 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:44.799 broad perspective, Um, you know, you learn a lot, you 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.800 get a ton of experience. But then there are also 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.560 the struggles in in in which being um, you know, 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.560 being being a black man working in corporate America has 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.520 his own struggles. Um, being just you know, having so 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.839 many different h like I said before, like different avenues 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.880 in which I've worked. So it's there's a lot. So 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.680 for if you just asked me. On a broad spectrum, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.799 um very much a learning opportunity that I think for anyone, 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.560 but also think it comes with its fair share of 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.520 of challenges that I can see a lot of people 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.520 as you transition into whatever it is that you deem 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.919 your career that you gotta go through. You took a 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.640 long route. I'm gonna take this, I'm gonna hit this 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:33.240 Cadillac term corporate America is sometimes a mirage. And I 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:39.080 think also corporate America does they define corporate America your 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:43.520 what's your perspective of corporate America. I mean, I'm I've 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.200 never been in corporate America, so what do you But 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.120 what do you know that I've never been in corporate America. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.360 But when I say mirage, I mean in this regard 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.840 of when I look at what I've experienced in sports 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.920 and when I look at you know, now, business wise, 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.000 I see how they are, they're not even close to 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.440 being the same. Because here's why, and then that's where 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.560 we can take a hunter ago a hundred miles an hour. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:16.640 Here's why. In football you have halftime, you have time outs. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:22.120 In basketball, you have a full time out, a you know, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:27.839 twenty second time out. Now you got halftime. What I'm 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.239 saying is why I say corporate America, why I struggle 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:36.880 with it is sometimes corporate America lacks accountability. Sometimes corporate America. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:41.280 When you make adjustments in sports and football over a 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:49.720 time period, not as long as corporate America, but almost 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:54.320 unrealistic life. In sports, you you take a time out, 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:59.480 you make adjustment. Your supervisor. So if offensive alignment is 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:07.120 the district manager, the regional manager is the is the 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:11.880 players right and you're going there and they tell you, hey, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.960 they're blitzing, So this is how we're gonna block it. Hey, 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.400 you're you're losing because you keep taking your right foot 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:22.080 over here. We're gonna make adjustment with our with with 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.679 our information. We're gonna do it. And at some point, 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:30.640 either throughout that game, throughout that quarter, throughout that practice, 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:36.680 or throughout that seventeen week season, you know immediately is 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.640 the game plan we have prepared for good enough? And 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.560 if it's not, let's make some adjustments. But you know 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.640 that you have an answer. You have immediate answer. It 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.320 may not be the answer that you like. It may say, yes, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.400 good job on this, but improve this, this, this, don't 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.720 change that or hell, no, none of that works. Let's 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:04.520 do him else and either through, especially in the game, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.440 you'll figure it out, and then if you keep it 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.200 up in the next game, you'll figure out, well, the 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.160 last two games, we've done this and that doesn't work. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.080 Un less change it up, and then you're getting this 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.240 forking road near the end of the season. You go, 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:20.679 it just isn't working. Our general manager, our CFO, our CEO, 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:26.600 our district manager, our regional manager. Somewhere there's a miss now. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:32.160 In business or corporate America, you sometimes make these adjustments 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:37.560 and you see no benefit, You see no answer, good 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:44.120 or bad, for sometimes three months or three years. First 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.679 you're gonna have a meeting about what you're gonna do, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.960 and then you're gonna have a meeting about that meeting 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.160 about the meeting. You just have none of those meet 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.800 Those meetings are gonna follow through, But at the end 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.199 of the day, everybody's gonna go on about their own 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.439 business anyway. UM. Corporate or mayor America is a monster 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.240 ship to turn. It takes a long time because of 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:11.040 from HR to all the different levels of management to 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.040 senior leadership. Everything has to flow to the same tune 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.440 and at the end of the day, Corporate America, like 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.960 it or not, really cares about one thing, and one 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.520 thing only what those shareholders get at the end of 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.800 the year and what their stock looks like. There's no 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.880 minor wins, there's no it's how much money did you 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:38.520 make me? And where is our company going from here? Um. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.920 I worked in corporate Anca for a long time. My 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.280 personal experience with it is they took care of my 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.440 family for many, many years. Um. You know, I was 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.760 set up nicely, and they've taught me the things that 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.240 I've taken into my own personal business. But I'll even 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.640 back up a step before that. Um. We always say 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.280 on this podcast, I can meet an individual man or 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.640 woman and know if they played sports. I can know 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:06.440 within five minutes how you act adversity, UM, how you 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.920 work under pressure, how you work with others and being 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.640 results driven. Um. So corporate America, someone is always gonna 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.240 wear the issue. It's there. You know, it trickles down. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.000 It gets to a level where we get to these 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.840 linemen or you get to the supervisor and you say, oh, hey, 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.360 Zoe and so has gotta wear this. You get let 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.040 go and then they move another person in. I think 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.640 that's a little bit in a correlation to sports, because 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.320 you are a number. In sports, there's a number on 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.120 your back and there's a team on your front. In 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.600 corporate America, it's so security number, right that that's really 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.280 what you are to them. You're not really Gerard or 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.320 Jonathan or Steve or Joe. You're a number, um. And 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.320 I've been the luxury of being in those meetings and 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.360 seeing those charts and analytics and sports. Well, in corporate America, 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.280 you have these boxes, and every individual in a company 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.800 has to fit in a box. And that box correlates 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.800 to Jonathan is gonna be in this position for ten years. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.319 He's not gonna go any higher, and they want to 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.320 get rid of them, and they put you in that box. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:13.000 And so I'm glad you said that no matter how 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:17.880 well Jonathan performs, he will never get out of that box. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.640 If if the people that make the decisions in corporate 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.679 America believe Jonathan is that he will never get out 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.760 of that box, right or wrong, he will never get 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.720 out of that box. And that's why sports is such 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:37.840 a different animal compared to corporate America business. A lot 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.720 of people in business say, it's not what you know 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.720 is who you know. I think it's what you know, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:47.199 who you know, what people know you as, and what 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.439 people know you to be. It's all of those and 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.880 and it reinforces what Joe says to where if at 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.600 the C suite, you know, the corporated, the senior level, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.600 if they determine that you are that, then you'll never 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.800 make it up. It's almost like they it's what they 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.920 believe you to be, though not necessarily what they know, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:14.160 because don't matter if and it doesn't matter how much 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.240 work you put in, no matter how many numbers you tossing, 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:22.040 no matter how much how many successful reviews you've had, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.920 right and and but that's what bugs me about corporate 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:32.920 America because we limit people. We limit people and justify 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.679 it by saying, well, I I know how that person, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.600 I know their capability, and they can never change and 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.080 I'm not going to give them an opportunity to And 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.080 then even when they do, they look for the next 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.200 opportunity for you, not to you to perform average, to 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.959 go see That's what I'm talking about. So what I struggle, 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.320 what what I really struggle with, is there is no 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:03.200 accountability in business like it is in sports. Is it 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.760 fair to say to some degree earlier in your career, 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.960 no matter how smart you are, no matter how well 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.720 dress you are, no matter how well you did your job, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.240 even when you outperformed it, they didn't undermine you, but 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:22.640 they didn't treat you and congratulate you the way you 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.640 would if you scored a touchdown against press coverage and 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.719 you weren't supposed to in your underside. Yeah, yeah, that's 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.199 a that's a that's a great that's a great analogy. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.400 Oftentimes you'll see some people get promoted because sometimes the 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.960 accountability out here exactly what you're saying, But sometimes that 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.840 accountability is arbitrary. Sometimes it is dependent on That's why 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.200 I go back to who you know, because oftentimes, yeah, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.719 I can outperform someone to the to the cowstom home, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.440 but am I going to be up for that promotion 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.720 as opposed to person X over here? And it's not 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.520 always the same thing. Because if it was up to 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:55.959 XS and oh it's just like it was on the 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.839 box score, then by absolutely then not then I should 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.320 get a promotion. But some times that it doesn't happen 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.280 because of well, maybe this person over here has a 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.040 relationship with the hiring manager. And so that takes into 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.760 play or or or the head hunter, you know, grab 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.920 that person from another company, and they're being that person 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:19.560 to be successful. Even though you should have got I'm 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:24.760 just using you and you should have got they should 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.840 have hired you and put you in that position because 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.880 you were underlink for the person that they've replaced. So 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.760 that's why I want, I say as arbitruary and two 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.760 I would say if I had to give like a 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.880 couple of points. This ain't a sermon, stee, but if 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:39.040 I had to give a point, one of the points 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.640 would be, like I think, one of the most important 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.360 things you can do as you've entered into business, corporate America, 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.800 entrepreneurship is find a mentor health find a few mentors, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.280 because that mentor can one sit you down and give 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.400 you constructive criticism where you want to hear it or not. 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.680 Um Two they can give you the ins and outs 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.560 and kind of the particulars about whatever um land you 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.080 want to get in or where you want to go. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.480 And then three they can advocate for you. And that's 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:11.320 one of the biggest things you need to in whatever 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.240 whether you were in whether you're working at a at 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.200 a at a beverage company, whether you're working in a 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.880 in a retail component, like having that mentor or that 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.120 advocate or that someone who can go when you're not 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.560 in that room, like Joe was talking about, that can 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:32.160 advocate on your behalf. The separation of In sports, if 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.400 you make a mistake, it's you, right, you you fumble 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.680 a ball and it gets recovered, is you? You know 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.520 you miss a blot? Is you? In the corporate world, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.280 just because of the sheer masses and the amount of people, 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.920 you can hide things that you may not be mask 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.840 mask Right, if you out there on the corner, you're 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.400 supposed to block that dude, you didn't. It's guess what 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.440 and guess when there's no game, film and corporate America, Right, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.680 we're not zero when you and we gotta tell ustrator. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.000 Unless you really messed up on an email. Yeah, that's 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:11.120 different if you hang yourself with that email. Right, there 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:18.600 are similarities in sports. In corporate you will get a 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.520 play by baiting play from the HR. Right, it's called 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:26.600 the I T department. Even when you go to Gerard 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.440 said the term C suite, that's the corporate level, right, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.960 So when you get up to certain levels inside organizations. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.080 There's a few outliers about what I'm about to say. 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:41.720 I ventured the guests plus percent of senior leaders and 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.600 organizations that we would dub successful are all finance people. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.280 And here's why shareholders believe if you're a good steward 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.760 of money, that means they equate that to being smart. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.160 They equate that to me you making me money on 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.280 my dividends. Check. Now, there's a whole lot of folks 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.480 that may but went to a smaller level school or 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.160 been a fifth or sixth round draft pick and was successful. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.960 In corporate America, there's very few people that make it 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.640 to the top without coming from what we'll call one 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.560 of those top names schools, or or having a finance 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.879 degree or having somebody so. So what you're telling me 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:27.000 is in corporate America to some degree, there is no 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.800 rookie free agents here. Here's the only rookie free agent 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:38.320 there is entry level employee. If if if the CEO's cousins, brothers, nephews, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.960 best friend needs a job, he's probably gonna get a 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.280 job just because he's there. Johnath could be the best 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.360 guy in the world, but guess what, just because he's 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.240 a friend with coach X. They ain't putting him on 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:52.000 the field. They're just not. You might get a try out, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.159 but then when you go out and get rolled up 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.560 in a trial like, yo, this dude is really gonna 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:01.760 ain't put him on. No, you're not, You're not doing 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.240 But you might be in the warehouse, right, you might 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.600 you you Now, there's some outliers. We all know are 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:11.320 the people that started the ground level, but that those 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.760 are the special folks. Those are the people who have 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.000 when they get to the top, most of the time 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.560 they try to change that narrative, but they're less between 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.840 and all those things have converged in order for that person. 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.960 There's always outliers. What do you what do you You've 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:34.760 been retired, you're doing real estate, You're working, you know, 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:39.320 working with the Panthers in corporate in their corporate office, 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.239 sponsors and all that stuff. What are you learning? And 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:49.399 how is football helped you and how has it hurt you? 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:55.040 For me, at times, I've learned even with g through 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.200 through the stuff we've done that he's told me, bro 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.000 it takes time. I was just about to say that's 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:07.560 the first thing where especially now in today's society, everything 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.760 is oh I want we need dippers tomorrow Boom, Amazon 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.520 day now, instant day, and you got that prime. I 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.399 ain't got pride, get the same day. I don't. I 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.800 don't have pride, but I know it's pride, but it's 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:33.640 it's it's instant gratification. Right playing sports, playing professionally, it's 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.200 either what it's what have you done for me lately? Literally, 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:42.359 like Sunday was the game Monday? What did you do yesterday? 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:47.080 Let's let's cut on the film. Let's see, Oh, dropped 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.440 the ball, you missed the block. Oh, you should have 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:56.040 cut back three strikes already. Better tighten up. I'm typing up. 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:02.560 And so the difference for me right now with working 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:07.200 with the Panthers is how slow? What are you doing 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.240 with the Panthers? And so I am working in development, 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:16.000 So I'm essentially under Mark Hart and he's mentoring me 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.560 um in the development process as far as what the 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:23.240 Panthers are doing with rock Hill and quarters. Um. So 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:29.000 the commercial development of real estate is really my passion. Um. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.439 You know, through my later years of playing, uh you know, 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:37.240 started investing in real estate and started to really understand 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.480 and grasp you know what that meant. You know what 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.040 I'm saying, like you're talking to a guy that played 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.920 monopoly when he wasn't you know, a little jit going 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.240 through high school, through him going through college and get 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.840 married to his wife, and his wife explains monopoly is 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.919 real estate. Oh my god, I've never really put two 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.840 and two together, you know what I'm saying, But like 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.640 it would have. But but that's the that's how I 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.119 was raised, you know what I'm saying, with no one 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.880 with no one there just saying, hey, that's legit. Boardwalk 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.800 is a real place. Like you can own a boardwalk. 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:15.879 You can don't like it, but there's a way to 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.480 get there, you know what I'm saying. So in pass 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:24.920 and gold collect two is not efficient enough. Man, I'm 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.720 just saying, but like you spending two hundred dollars and 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.480 then all of a sudden you got eight hundred dollar bill. 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:32.640 You don't land on somebody with a house or two 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:40.000 on their property. But like the the time that it 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:44.080 takes to get things done, in the time that people 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:53.240 get to screw up is what I put it in 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:57.320 football terms. Football. You know, in football, I'm realizing as 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.600 we do we do the these interviews more and more 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.800 playing football is like being a dog. It's like it's 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.359 like twelve years in the league is like a fifty 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:12.439 six year old in terms of agents. In terms of 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.840 agent it's ridiculous. So you have someone that screws up 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.720 and you give them they've been screwing up something for 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:26.200 three months. In football, that's equivalent of like what a game, bro, 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.640 but like for real though, like depending on the like 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.080 what that screw up? What coach kip you? So always 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:39.080 say a minor air but a major funk up. Okay, 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.119 if you take off on that plane and you forget 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.960 to feel the plane, that's a minor air. Well you 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.960 that's believed that plane, if it takes off, it's the 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:57.840 only one way it's going down. Okay. And I don't 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:01.080 care what you did. You know you're a brain surgery. 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:05.360 You had three thousand successful brain surgeries. You got all 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.520 the accolades in the world. I don't care what you 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:13.800 did with them other surgeries. The most important surgery is 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.320 that next one. And if you if I die, that 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:21.160 is a major funk up. All that to say, the 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:27.840 timing of things are slower um and I feel like 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:32.919 the enforcing of things happening. I find myself trying to 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.840 figure out the problem immediately and then having to deal 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.320 with the time that passes while I feel like I 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.520 might have the answer, but waiting for people to just 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:45.360 kind of figure it out on their own too, right, 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.680 because I just I have I'm I'm I'm a newcomer, 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.560 you know what I'm saying. Fresh. Everybody isn't responsible for 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.200 every certain thing. So that person probably has x amount 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.280 of control. That person has x amountic You have to 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.840 talk to someone. So we're songing soup. Well, so and 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.159 SO is down here. Okay, how did I get on 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.120 song and so schedule? Well, you gotta go talk to something. 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:12.000 So what does the song so look like? And also 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.679 just kind of managing your own expectations because you've had 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:19.160 an expectation just that that it happens. So I'm gonna 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:23.320 say this and you'll be okay, I'll tell this story. 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:25.320 I remember telling Smithy one time. I was like, bro, 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:29.120 sometimes you will plant a tomato seat in the morning 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.640 and expect to eat a bot that afternoon. It don't 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.919 work like that. It don't work like that. And he 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.600 and he finally got it when I gave him that analogy, like, 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.720 it doesn't work like that. Like in the business work 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.480 and yeah, and in the business world don't work like that. 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.320 I love cut to It and I love it even 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.760 more when you download us and subscribe, and you can 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.280 follow us on social media too, Smithie, where where at? 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:03.200 That's at? Cut to It on Instagram? What about Twitter? At? 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:07.400 Cut to It Facebook? Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr? 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.880 What about online? And you can follow us at cut 0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.040