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Speaker 1: Ah that All Star fever is starting to spread and

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Speaker 1: that's not a good thing, Manzi. Usually it's great. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: I've got spring fever. All Star fever is something that

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Speaker 1: is so so different all in itself. We're talking All

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Speaker 1: Star fever here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we do have summer fever. It's just All Star

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Speaker 5: fever is not as hot. It's a little cool.

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Speaker 1: All Star fever is, you know what. I'm not feeling

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Speaker 1: too well, and it's usually because of.

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Speaker 5: Snubs snubs, but do we really care?

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Speaker 1: There's a dirty little secret behind all of that. Welcome in.

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Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Radio in for Covino and Rich,

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Speaker 1: who're in for Dan Patrick earlier today. Isaac low and Crown,

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Speaker 1: Jason Stewart and Ryan Smith are here for us. The

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Speaker 1: All Star Reserves. We knew the starters were announced, but

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Speaker 1: the All Star Reserves the rosters were filled out yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and something that is as old as time occurred yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and that is making a list of All Star snubs. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is where the fever is a bad thing. I

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Speaker 1: find it funny on how year after year there are

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Speaker 1: always snubs. There are players on your team that you

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Speaker 1: think should be on the All Star squad but that

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Speaker 1: didn't make the squad, and you're ticked off because that

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Speaker 1: player was good for your team. And then you start

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Speaker 1: being that person and saying, well, how did this guy

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Speaker 1: make it? Why did this guy make it? Why does

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Speaker 1: every team have to be an All Star? It happens

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Speaker 1: every single year, and we drive down that same road.

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Speaker 1: You know what else happens every single year months h

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Speaker 1: I'm going to lean on the shoulders of Jason Stewart,

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Speaker 1: our executive producer. That makes the point, and Jason, I

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Speaker 1: will let you verbalize it, because these rosters aren't necessarily

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Speaker 1: set in stone, are they? So what else happens every

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Speaker 1: single year when it comes to All Star rosters and

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Speaker 1: it comes to All Star snubs?

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Speaker 6: So this is kind of the day that radio producers

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Speaker 6: and TV debate show producers could be really lazy, Like

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Speaker 6: they could go into their calendar in December and be

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Speaker 6: like on July the seventh, we could have a segment

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Speaker 6: and talk about the snubs. And by the way, the

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Speaker 6: word snub is not a great word to hear. It's

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Speaker 6: like a it's like a smegma. Is that the word

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Speaker 6: that everyone hates? And then there's a word that women,

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Speaker 6: all women hate that ends in an st that I

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Speaker 6: won't say those words, but snub is such a bad word.

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Speaker 6: And like every single year, we could have a segment

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Speaker 6: where we're like, all right, well, we're the biggest snubs.

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Speaker 6: I want to hear your calls, Colin be really upset

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Speaker 6: about who doesn't make the team, and then throughout the week,

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Speaker 6: as injuries occur, those same snubs that everyone was screaming

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Speaker 6: about just make the team and that's it. So basically,

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Speaker 6: is just a huge waste of air for a radio.

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Speaker 1: People outrage for the sake of outrage when it doesn't

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Speaker 1: even matter and you heard Manti say it off the top.

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Speaker 1: This has meant no disrespect to the broadcast that is

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Speaker 1: put together by Fox, as the All Star Game will

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Speaker 1: be on Fox. I feel that it is rage for

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Speaker 1: the sake of rage, or something to be upset about.

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Speaker 1: Because it hurt your feelings. But how many people will

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Speaker 1: actually boycott the All Star Game because their player wasn't

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Speaker 1: care as it's going on because their player isn't in

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Speaker 1: the game. Like, if you think that Juan Soto should

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Speaker 1: be in the game, and let's say, to Jason's point,

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Speaker 1: he gets into the game as an injury replacement, you

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Speaker 1: darn well sure you'd better be watching in the fifth

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Speaker 1: inning when he comes in as an injury replacement because

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Speaker 1: you complained the whole week about how Juan Soto should

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Speaker 1: have been an All Star, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 1: think there's a very good argument on why Wan Soda

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Speaker 1: a bit. But it's never paid off. It's a reason

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Speaker 1: hanging fruit, but it's also never paid off. Manzi, where

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Speaker 1: I don't think people are sitting there tuning into the

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Speaker 1: completely double talking.

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Speaker 2: Does this come because maybe we're holding on to baseball

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Speaker 2: being the last real All Star Game? And so we

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Speaker 2: I will put on the All Star Game right have

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Speaker 2: regular season, and then I'm moving on. But are we

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Speaker 2: because we think it's the last real All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very interesting point, and I think

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Speaker 1: the only thing going on right now as a sports

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Speaker 1: fan of teams that you care about. So football is

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Speaker 1: about to start, the NBA has ended, so you're passionate

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people passionate. If you've seen

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Speaker 1: the numbers from this past weekend, major League Baseball put

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Speaker 1: them out magnificent fourth of July weekend for baseball. So

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Speaker 1: it's healthy. But I think that there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: to distract people right now. It's summertime. Guess what, let's

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Speaker 1: find something to bother me. But I think that what

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Speaker 1: you said is what you said is real. I also

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Speaker 1: think that the openness of the roster is real. So

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Speaker 1: in an NBA All Star game, you have twelve spots.

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Speaker 1: I think for Team I think you should have fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I think that that would be good for the game.

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Speaker 1: There are veterans that don't necessarily want to play. I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to fix. It's not a fix in the

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Speaker 1: All Star conversation, but I think that it should be

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Speaker 5: Yes it is, and and.

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Speaker 1: So to that aspect, I think that there is there

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Speaker 1: is some weight to being an All Star, but it's

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Speaker 1: also the only thing that's going on right now.

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Speaker 5: You hardly get to see these All Star pitchers.

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Speaker 2: We want to see more than one inning of Paul Skeins,

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Speaker 2: but that's probably what you're gonna get. Yes, So it's

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Speaker 2: like you're you're angry, but you're right. What else are

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Speaker 2: you gonna be angry about the way a mascot looks?

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Speaker 5: No, you gotta be angry.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking at a list of snubs. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take this from si dot com. Okay, a list of

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Speaker 1: what snubs?

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Speaker 3: Snubs?

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Speaker 1: Okay, snubs, yes, snubs, snubs. Can you believe JP Crawford

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Speaker 1: didn't make the All Star Game. Short stuff for the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners. Like this is I know it sounds absurd.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're doing here, That's what we're doing. So

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Speaker 1: if you're arguing about that it's ridiculous, well, JP stands

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Speaker 1: were just pathetic. Jasony slashing two eighty five, three eighty

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Speaker 5: An All Star. These are part of the list of

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Speaker 5: the not an All Star.

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Speaker 1: So the Nationals had an All Star snub. They are atrocious.

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Speaker 1: They won like eight games this year. It's more than that.

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Speaker 1: But I get it, so CJ. Abrams. The point is,

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Speaker 1: this is what it's come down to, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to disrespect any of those players and what they

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Speaker 1: have done this season. In fact, it would be a

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Speaker 1: great honor, I'm sure for those players to be named

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Speaker 1: an All Star. And that's a bit of the rub

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Speaker 1: with all of this, but it's it's fake outrage and

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Speaker 1: it's not real. The last name on the list is

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Speaker 1: Wan Soto of the New York Mets. And I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry for a game that's made for TV. Wan Soto

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Speaker 1: deserves to be at the All Star Game for the

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Speaker 1: same reason that Clayton Kershaw is at the All Star Game,

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Speaker 1: because we want to see Clayton Kershaw there, likely for

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Speaker 1: the last time. They did this with with Miguel Cabrera

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Speaker 1: and putting him as a veteran to the All Star team.

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Speaker 1: This is expanding the All Star roster. This is a

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Speaker 1: way of doing it. But when you talk about the

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Speaker 1: stories that have happened in Major League Baseball so far

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Speaker 1: in the first half of the season, sorry, Wan Soto

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Speaker 1: you want to see Juan Soto. He's on a new team,

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Speaker 1: he's back to being in the National League. All of

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Speaker 1: that factors in. Like, I do think that that is

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Speaker 1: a snub for the reason that you want to make

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Speaker 1: disrespect to someone like JP Crawford, there's none of that

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Speaker 1: CJ Abrams, no disrespect meant towards those players, but Sodo

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Speaker 1: moves the needle in a way that those players don't.

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Speaker 1: And that's why when you're talking about a made for

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Speaker 1: this does. Soda should have been an.

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Speaker 5: All Star absolutely. How much money is he making?

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Speaker 2: Seven hundred and sixty five million dollars, the biggest contract

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Speaker 2: he has to be in the All Star Game. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of silly that they didn't make that decision ahead

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Speaker 2: snub while everybody else, like you said, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of good talent out there, but like

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Speaker 2: Juan Soto, not being in the initial list is kind

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Speaker 2: of just like you drop the big ball here. You

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Speaker 2: have to have him out there, and his numbers are

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Speaker 2: in the ballpark. He started off slow, and that was

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Speaker 5: He should be there. He's he is the highest paid

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Speaker 5: player in baseball right now, get out there. Put him

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Speaker 2: Don't make this be a story when it's not, especially

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Speaker 2: because Jason said it. There's gonna be an injury or something,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna be the first one they put into replace.

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Speaker 1: There's always gonna be someone that's left out away, whether

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Speaker 1: you know the NCAA tournament, the team that's you know,

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Speaker 1: not number sixty nine or number seventy, they didn't make

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Speaker 1: the field of sixty eight. In this case, somebody's going

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Speaker 1: to be left out. I'm not saying Wan Soda should

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Speaker 1: replace someone. Just make sure that Wan SODA's on the team,

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Speaker 1: just like you made sure that Clayton Kershaw is on

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Speaker 1: being on the team a year or two ago. All

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Speaker 1: of that is completely understood and accepted and honestly welcomed.

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Speaker 1: And I think if you expanded it, I've been I've

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Speaker 1: thought Major League Baseball should do this. BONSI. Jason and

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Speaker 1: I have been together long enough that he's heard this

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Speaker 1: argument before. Last year, we were lucky enough that Paul

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Speaker 1: all wanted to watch Paul Skeins pitching that first inning.

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Speaker 1: The year prior, Elie de la Cruz was taking over

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Speaker 1: coming to a close. Again, hit Mancy up at Monzy Bolanos.

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Speaker 5: In the NBA.

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Speaker 4: ESPN has just reported that Paolo ben Caro over the

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Speaker 4: Orlando Magic has agreed to a five year maximum rookie

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Speaker 1: What is funny is when Shams tweets it and they

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Speaker 5: I didn't even I didn't need to know that information.

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Speaker 1: Brennan of the USA Today has a book coming out

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Speaker 1: about Caitlin Clark, and she released an excerpt of the

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Speaker 1: book explaining what actually happened last year when she wanted

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Speaker 1: to speak with members of the Connecticut Son specifically de

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Speaker 1: Jonte Carrington, about whether she purposely scratched Caitlin Clark in

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Speaker 1: the eye during a play in a previous game. And

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Speaker 1: what that did was that opened Pandora's box into what

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Speaker 1: could possibly happen in the WNBA when things don't go

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Speaker 1: the player's way. And Christine Brennan lays out how she

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Speaker 1: was confronted by one of Carrington's teammates saying that she

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Speaker 1: disrespected Carrington and asking her a simple question, did you

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Speaker 1: purposely scratch Caitlin Clark in the eye in that game?

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Speaker 1: So a player comes up confronts Christine Brennan. Then, in

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Speaker 1: another situation, when Brennan is speaking with other reporters who

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Speaker 1: cover the Indiana Fever and others in the WNBA in

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Speaker 1: an off the record conversation in the tunnel of an arena,

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Speaker 1: Carrington goes and overhears this conversation. The essence that I

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Speaker 1: got was that she was hiding behind.

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Speaker 5: A curtain, right, yes, absolutely, Like the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Happened and there was a curtain separating and so you

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Speaker 1: hear somebody talking, so you stop. They don't know that

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Speaker 1: you're listening, But they were just talking about a lineup

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Speaker 1: change that was made, which I believe was done to

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Speaker 1: Carrington's partner at the time, and so then Carrington starts

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Speaker 1: to yell, and then that player goes up and confronts

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Speaker 1: Christine Brennan about being disrespectful to her and talking ish

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Speaker 1: about her. All of this started because Christine Brennan, as

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Speaker 1: a reporter, asked the question, did you purposely scratch Kaitlyn

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Speaker 1: Clark in the eye?

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Speaker 5: That's how it all started, right, And if you didn't,

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Speaker 5: can you just talk about that? Yes, that's how it

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Speaker 5: was worded too. She's like, and if you did it,

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Speaker 5: can't right? Can you just talk about that moment?

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Speaker 1: It's this is Doug Gottlieber said it. Doug Gottlieb's got

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Speaker 1: it on clips of this league not being serious. They've

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Speaker 1: Portanoi of Barstool tweeted the same thing. We know he's

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Speaker 1: a huge Caitlyn Clark fan. But this is the problem

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Speaker 1: that I have with the WNBA is the WBA wants everything.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the WNBA Players Association, the players.

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Speaker 1: They want everything. They want me, they want you, They

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Speaker 1: want us to cover the sport like they do the NBA.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they want to get paid like players in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Because look at all the attention that it's

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Speaker 1: being brought and brought to the league. So then Caitlyn

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Speaker 1: Clark comes in, brings the attention that they've been craving

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Speaker 1: and guess what, don't want it, don't need it, should

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Speaker 1: have been here a long time ago. Now you have

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Speaker 1: a reporter who's covering a story that maybe tied to

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark and asking a legitimate question, and to Monte's point,

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Speaker 1: gave her an actual out in the question. Journalists usually

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Speaker 1: won't do that. They will ask the question as the

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Speaker 1: question because it's up to you to take it however

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Speaker 1: you want to take it. And she gave her an out,

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Speaker 1: and they not only still didn't like it, they then

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Speaker 1: tried to bully Christine Brennan, who's been in the media

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Speaker 1: for decades, not to ager, but just the point of

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Speaker 1: the experience, like she's some Johnny KM lately to the

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Speaker 1: profession and the sports. And this is why it's frustrating

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Speaker 1: to me, is you want your league to grow, you

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Speaker 1: want all of these demands, and then something happens that

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Speaker 1: is like the other leagues, you say, h we don't

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Speaker 1: like that. That's not how we do things around here.

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Speaker 1: That's complete garbage.

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Speaker 2: It is the WNBA is reality TV and bad reality TV.

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Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily a bad thing overall, because I

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Speaker 2: love bad reality TV.

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Speaker 5: I watch a lot of it. That's what people are

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Speaker 5: doing here.

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Speaker 2: People are paying attention to the WNBA now for the

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Speaker 2: wrong reasons, because you keep dropping the ball and looking

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Speaker 2: like bad reality TV.

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Speaker 5: You know, I love The Bachelor. You know why because

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Speaker 5: you put all these women together, dating with one.

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Speaker 2: Guy, cat fights, drama, toxic environment, bachelorette.

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Speaker 5: You put all these guys together.

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Speaker 2: They're all bros by the end of the season, and

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Speaker 2: best friends, they're high fives.

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Speaker 5: So how do you how'd your day go?

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Speaker 6: All?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: Man? I love you. I hope she likes you just

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Speaker 5: as much as I love you. Not the same when

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Speaker 5: you put women together.

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Speaker 2: And this is what we keep witnessing time after time

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Speaker 2: with the WNBA girls.

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Speaker 5: Get it together, get it together. This is embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: It is I put it this way. I kind of

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Speaker 1: forge got about the story and then I saw it

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Speaker 1: pop up, and then I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that did happen. It did happen. And then they wanted

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Speaker 1: to revoke her. Imagine imagine revoking the USA Today's credentials

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Speaker 1: like it is. It's like I I can understand her.

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Speaker 1: Some Johnny cum Lately's are like, hey, I just want

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Speaker 1: free tickets to the games. Yeah, we're going to sign in.

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Speaker 1: But they came in because they didn't like the questions

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Speaker 1: that were being asked. By the way. It's also if

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Speaker 1: if you think that's disrespect my goodness and like it is,

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Speaker 1: I just they the Players Association and the players in

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Speaker 1: that league want it one way, and then when you

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Speaker 1: give it to them how they want it, they don't

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Speaker 1: like it.

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Speaker 5: But it's not even just.

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Speaker 2: The Players Association, right, it feels like, what is the

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Speaker 2: who's the president of the w NBA.

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Speaker 5: I can't think of her name? Kathy? Then she is

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Speaker 5: coddling them. She is not doing right by it.

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Speaker 2: She also needs to come out there and be like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're going to get this together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah well yeah, and what's the name? Keaththy Engelbert Elbert.

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Speaker 1: I would not in a million years, Yeah yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would go.

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Speaker 5: I was like Kathy's own.

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Speaker 1: But but to your point, somebody's got to put a

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Speaker 1: stop to it, somebody's got to change the direction of it.

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Speaker 1: The reason I say it's the Players Association, Manzi, and

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Speaker 1: not necessarily the league is because a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: especially with their current labor negotiations, they aren't on the

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Speaker 1: same side. And maybe you're right to that point, but

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Speaker 1: it feels like, and I say the players association as well,

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Speaker 1: because it just feels like it's a majority of the players.

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Speaker 1: It's not just the Connecticut son it's the other players

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Speaker 1: in the league that are doing this. And as as

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Speaker 1: someone in straightening up and trying to figure out a

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Speaker 1: way how to move this league forward, you have to

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Speaker 1: have everybody in your union or most everybody in your

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Speaker 1: union together and it and maybe ninety five percent of

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Speaker 1: them are, but at that point last year, it feels

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Speaker 1: like ninety five percent of them were against Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 1: So to your point, if you're the commissioner, yeah, you've

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Speaker 1: got it. You have to figure out a way to

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Speaker 1: protect it because obviously and protect not protect Caitlin Clark,

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Speaker 1: but but in a way, yes, you can't be doing

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Speaker 1: this stuff. You have to protect your media viability. Christine

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Speaker 1: Brennan is quoting media people, who, by the way, have

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Speaker 1: a lot more experience in dealing with this than any

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Speaker 1: of the players do, being like our players just don't understand,

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Speaker 1: like that's that was a quote, and I'm paraphrasing, but

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Speaker 1: the essence of a quote from one of the media

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Speaker 1: staffers that spoke with Christine Brennan Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I was just going to actually read that

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Speaker 6: quote from an official to Christine Brennan. I think this

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Speaker 6: is like the most indicting quote in this excerpt. Anyways, Unfortunately,

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Speaker 6: most of our players have zero idea what real media

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Speaker 6: exposure is. They don't know what real coverage is, as

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Speaker 6: they have been shielded in college. Then they come to

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Speaker 6: the WNBA not what the real questions are. Frankly, our

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Speaker 6: players just don't get it. So it's like it just

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Speaker 6: seems like there's this like oversensitivity that needs to be

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Speaker 6: retrained or untrained for this league to be taken seriously.

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Speaker 6: If you don't know how to be covered, then you

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Speaker 6: don't grasp the uh, the importance of publicity. That sounds

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Speaker 6: like something that needs to be like ground level trained.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and those questions will end up being okayed by

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Speaker 1: the teams of the spoke to the media people, the

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Speaker 1: media personnel by that team that there was nothing that

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Speaker 1: was off the record. It wasn't like Christine Brennan was

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Speaker 1: trying to hide it anything, and like a reporter, she goes,

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Speaker 1: I have the video here, do you want to watch it?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to see it? And they had no

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Speaker 1: interest in doing that. That's it's the you know, having

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Speaker 1: your cake and eating it too. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: that why that phrase is. I realized this within the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. A cake is beautiful, but once

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Speaker 1: you eat it, you ruin it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: They want it both ways. They want the be cake

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Speaker 1: and then they also want to be fed off of it,

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Speaker 1: which ruins the cake.

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Speaker 4: We actually had our cake and eight to two over

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Speaker 4: the holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, nice? What did you have on this, Isaac.

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Speaker 4: It's really interesting that you bring that specific thing up, Jason,

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Speaker 4: because the late great sports writer John Feinstein wrote a

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Speaker 4: very fine book about sort of the behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: story of this exact subject media access throughout his career,

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Speaker 4: all the way back in twenty eleven, and he said

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Speaker 4: that when he was covering college basketball in the eighties,

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Speaker 4: the publicist for these schools he would arrange an interview

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Speaker 4: with the star player. They would walk over to him, Okay,

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Speaker 4: here's the star player. They'd sit on a bench and

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Speaker 4: the pr person would walk away and he would leave.

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Speaker 4: John Finstein to do an interview one on one with

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Speaker 4: this star college player all by themselves. Now in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 4: he said that the PR people, because the culture had changed,

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Speaker 4: they would hover over you and they would limit their

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Speaker 4: access and they would be overly protective. And so we

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Speaker 4: were already headed down that road. And I also think

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Speaker 4: that the pandemic exacerbated that because now so much of

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Speaker 4: your access is done on zoom and you would never

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Speaker 4: these days, I think see a college athlete conduct an

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Speaker 4: interview with a media member without somebody from the school

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Speaker 4: or the athletic department being there.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say this, if a media member was

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Speaker 1: there hearing this exchange with Dejonte Carrington, they would be

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Speaker 1: able to back up what Christine Brennan was saying and

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Speaker 1: saying that the questions were fair. They okayed it after

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Speaker 1: the fact, but then you wouldn't have had another player

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Speaker 1: walk up trying to bully Christine Brennan saying that you're

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Speaker 1: being disrespectful. There's just there's no give and take to it.

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Speaker 1: And this is at the professional level. That's even at

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Speaker 1: the college level, Like you have to have some sort

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Speaker 1: of recognition because if you're sitting there complaining, nobody's watching

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Speaker 1: your games and nobody's paying attention. Guess what people are

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Speaker 1: now and maybe your actions, you know, should be the

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Speaker 1: ones that are called into question. That may be the

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Speaker 1: biggest problem.

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Speaker 2: No, No, people are paying attention, Dan, but for the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 5: They're not paying attention to watch them play basketball. They're

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00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 5: paying attention because of the drama, bad reality TV.

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Speaker 1: Nazi's feeling it here on Cavino and Rich and Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: I know it's a good jam.

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Speaker 1: She is Monte Bolanio. So I'm Dan Byr in for

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Speaker 1: Covino and Rich, who were in for Dan Patrick earlier today.

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Speaker 5: How great is that?

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Speaker 1: It's It's amazing. It's as great as the trade that's

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Speaker 1: happened earlier today at fitting Because we wrap up the

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Speaker 1: show with this NBA deal that, by the way, has

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Speaker 1: already been moved to the bottom of the headlines of

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Speaker 1: the EA ESPN front page. That's right, Yes, the headline

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Speaker 1: of Angel Reese blasting WNBA refs is now ahead of

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Speaker 1: the Norman Powell leaving the Clippers for the Heat trade

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Speaker 1: with John Collins going from Utah to LA. Noted Clippers fan,

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Speaker 1: but most importantly, sports talk radio host Manci bilanios his

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this three team deal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think this is really great pickup for

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Speaker 2: the Clippers. I am sad to see Norman Powell go.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he was a bucket for us last year,

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Speaker 2: a guaranteed bucket, especially with Kawhi Leonard out. He was

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Speaker 2: our number two, sometimes even our number one alongside James Harden.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the injury. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it was figuring out his footing once Kawhi

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Speaker 2: Leonard came back into the starting lineup and he had

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Speaker 2: to take a side role of the number three, even

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Speaker 2: possibly a number four because of Itata Zubats definitely had

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Speaker 2: those moments.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what it was, but Norman.

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Speaker 2: Powell did not have the second second, the great second

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Speaker 2: half to the season that I think most of us wanted.

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Speaker 2: Also in the playoffs, he just couldn't get his footing right,

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Speaker 2: and so I think this is a great move also

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Speaker 2: for the Miami Heat. They're gonna get somebody who can score,

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Speaker 2: when in reality the Clippers needed a power forward. John

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Speaker 2: Collins is gonna do that. He's more athletic. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: add defense, which Norman Powell, you know that was not

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Speaker 2: his strength. He was scoring for US Josh Collins. John

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Speaker 2: Collins isn't going to score as much. But the big

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Speaker 2: part is he's gonna alleviate on the defensive end for

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard. So I think this is a really good move,

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Speaker 2: and with a stacked West, I like that the Clippers

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Speaker 2: are staying aggressive because I thought the Clippers were already.

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Speaker 5: I mean, y'all heard me down the hallway during the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I'm going to the finals. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to the.

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Speaker 1: Finals, and then I didn't, yeh did uh huh.

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Speaker 2: So we were already a good squad and a good team.

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Speaker 2: I like the aggressiveness here. There are rumors that they

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Speaker 2: now are looking at Bradley Beal in a buy out

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Speaker 2: with the Suns, that they could add him and I

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Speaker 2: we don't need that, we don't need that. I like

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Speaker 2: this move, this was this was nice pick up for

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Speaker 2: the Clippers, and uh, we're going to the finals.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your passion for this trade because I'm the

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Speaker 1: exact opposite. But I will say this that they get younger.

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Speaker 1: According to the reports that Paula is not likely to

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Speaker 1: sound an extension with the Clippers anyway, and in a

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Speaker 1: way to show no disrespect but ultimately no doubt about it,

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Speaker 1: disrespect the player we're talking about Norman Powell there, and

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of teams have to realize

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Speaker 1: that there are there are pieces that are nice pieces.

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Speaker 1: To your point, they have reason to move it. Miami

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Speaker 1: finds value and can you like him? Yeah? Absolutely better

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Speaker 1: fit there. Ye, maybe he's a better fit for them

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Speaker 1: long term as well, so they get a year in

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Speaker 1: advance in scouting and determining what they want to do.

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Speaker 1: Collins is twenty seven years old, could find a long

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Speaker 1: term home as well because he's entering the final year

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Speaker 1: of his contract. The Jazz are a part of this deal.

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Speaker 1: That's how he comes over. They get second round picks.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Love is a part of this deal. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Kevin Love is gonna play one second of basketball

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Speaker 1: for the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 2: No, you probably go to a buyout and probably go

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Speaker 2: to the Lakers. That's why he was having dinner with

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Speaker 2: Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Michael Scott win win win, like a win win win

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Speaker 1: situation for this trade. But I just go to the

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Speaker 1: fact you had feelings for Norman Powell considering what he

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Speaker 1: provided to the Clippers. That sometimes can cloud your thinking.

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Speaker 1: You keep guys around too long or feel that this

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Speaker 1: is part of the quarterly Sometimes you got to separate

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Speaker 1: the faces and the names, and doing deals just to

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Speaker 1: get younger and stronger in the front court seems to

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Speaker 1: pay off.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely appreciative of what he did.

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Speaker 2: I mean he even you know, the third home game

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Speaker 2: for the playoffs got into it to him was a

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Speaker 2: Norman Powell shirt. Like the appreciation was shown early on,

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Speaker 2: and I thought he should have been an All Star

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. He was so great for us, so

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Speaker 2: so great. It didn't end OUs great. I think he

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Speaker 2: can thrive in Miami. Welcome Collins to the Clippers. He's

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Speaker 2: going to be a big pick up for us.

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Speaker 1: Now you made me feel bad from my All Star

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Speaker 1: take earlier today and saying it doesn't matter, guys are

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Speaker 1: All Stars. Now I'm thinking about it. I remember my guy,

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Speaker 1: Jim Jackson should have gone into the NBA All Star

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Speaker 1: Game one season he was like fourth in the league

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Speaker 1: in scoring, did not get in, injured his ankle, and

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Speaker 1: then never had the career that he had up to

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Speaker 1: that point. And so now I feel bad about saying

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Speaker 1: bring in more stars and young stars in the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game. Who cares about these snubs that we don't

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Speaker 1: care about, because that could have been Norman Powell's only

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Speaker 1: All Star chance and it was it.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Lebron for announcing last minute though you weren't gonna play.

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Speaker 1: And I'll correct myself, and I'll correct myself. The East stinks,

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Speaker 1: so you'll probably start in the All Stars.

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Speaker 5: That's right, he's going to be in next year.

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Speaker 1: She's want so. I'm Dan Spindcvino and Rich on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Bye Ie,