1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you should Know from house Stuff 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry Rowland, 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: which makes this stuff you should know. It's right. I 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: got on my top hat and cane your monocle monic 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: to see a monocle. I thought it was not this' 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Mr Peanut. Oh yeah, not Mr Monopoly. And I think 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Mr Pringle has a monocle too, don't you know, he 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: says an anostatic. Mr Monopoly doesn't have a monocle. Huh, 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Huh. You'd think we'd know. We 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: do not, But I do know this Mr Monopoly is 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: a nickname for that man. That's right. His born name 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: is given name by his parents is rich Uncle Pennybags. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Three names, so uncle would be his middle name. Yeah. 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Well he even has a regular name too. Oh not 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: that I saw. Yeah, it is Um Millburn Pennybags. No. Yeah, 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: there was a book Um published and this is one 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: of those after the fact deals called the Monopoly Companion, 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: and they named all the character characters on the board 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Milbourne Penny Bags. And then the jail guy is Jake. 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: The jailbird and the police officer and go to jail 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: is I'll bet a tyrus, isn't it? Well, Officer Edgar Mallory, 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: I really do you just gets that? Yeah, that's pretty funny. 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about Monopoly, by the way. Oh yeah, this 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: is not about anything else but Monopoly. No. And I 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: was just remarking to you, sir, how I've never seen 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: one of our This had more supplemental information than most 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: shows that we research. Yeah. I can explain why because 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: this was written. There was a whole suite of UM 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: game articles written like um just how to play certain games. 31 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: So it kind of came out in this mentality and 32 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: of this is the game, and here's how we explain 33 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: how to play it, and this article is done. Whereas Monopoly, 34 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: it's like this is more like McDonald's or Twinkies or 35 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: something like that. It's like a cultural cog. Yeah. I 36 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: mean there's so much extra junk history. And I mean 37 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: you talk about the different versions, it's ridiculous Milburn Penny pennybags. Yeah. 38 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: And like I said, that was a post that he 39 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: wasn't originally called that. This is I think Monopoly probably 40 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: wanted to sell a little a Little Book or two. 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure they did. Because if one thing we've learned 42 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: about Parker Brothers and now has Bro is they love 43 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: selling different versions of this game. Yeah, they do. They 44 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: like licensing it off a lot of money. They like 45 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: making some changes. Here they're releasing a brand new game, 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: but it's all still the same game and all of it, 47 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Um came from a left wing Quaker intellectual at the 48 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: turn of the last century. Yeah it was. I'm saying that, right, Yeah, sure, okay, 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: let it sounds right. Uh. And it's interesting to me 50 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: that the game of Monopoly, which is all about capitalism, 51 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: bankrupting or neighbor was stolen. The game was stolen from 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: a leftist intellectual Quaker. In the original version of the game, 53 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: it was to teach against the monopolies and how they 54 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: were bad. Right, So let's talk about this monopoly. Actually, 55 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: if you trace it back to about the like the 56 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: literal beginning of the twentieth century, Um, it's what's considered 57 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: a folk game. There were a lot of people playing 58 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: versions like this and cities all over the country. But again, 59 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: they all shared some pretty common viewpoints. Uh. I guess 60 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: you today you would kind of call them socialists, um, 61 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: but for the most part they were um followers of 62 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: a guy named Henry George. Yeah, he came up with 63 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: this thing called Georgism, which was based on some other philosophies. 64 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: But the idea of it is is that if you 65 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: produce something through the through your own labor, your own work, 66 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: you own that that should not be taxed. What should 67 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: be taxes things that everybody owns. If somebody's taking something 68 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: that belongs to everybody, say a parcel of land, technically 69 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: the land belongs everybody. Well, that was his notion was 70 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't even be a landowner. Whole concept of 71 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: owning land to him was ridiculous. And that's based on 72 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: this idea the law of the Commons, which is around 73 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: for centuries, if not millennia, and then um, once people 74 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: started taking land, He's like, okay, well, if you're gonna 75 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: own land, it belongs to everybody, so that should be 76 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: taxed and then that tax will be given back to 77 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: the community for the greater good. So that's Georgeism, and 78 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: that was kind of the philosophy that formed the basis 79 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: of monopoly what was originally called the Landlord's Game, which 80 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: is created by a lady named Lizzie Maggie m A 81 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: G y m A g I e almost Magpie without 82 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: the pe right, uh. And she basically was on her 83 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: card and she uh, she came up with this, like 84 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: you said, to kind of teach um, so you could 85 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: go and be a rich landowner and bankrupt other people 86 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: and exploit the poor who need your help, um, who 87 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: need a decent place to stay, and you could see 88 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: yourself like the evils of capitalism. But she actually came 89 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: up with two sets of rules for the same game. 90 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: One was where you got as rich as you could 91 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: at the expense of everybody else. The other was a 92 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: basically the community benefited. And you can kind of see 93 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: that today and like these weird things like community chest, 94 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: like why would I want to you know, pay into 95 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: this pot. I don't care about the commune in the 96 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: like now it's a bad thing. In her original version, 97 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: it was a good thing, like the community one, and 98 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: that was the basis of the whole thing. Yeah, which 99 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: is really ironic, it is uh. Yeah, like you said, 100 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: she created two versions, and she said, Um. One of 101 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: the quotes from her is it is a practical demonstration 102 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: of the present system of land grabbing with all its 103 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: usual outcomes and consequences. So you know, it's kind of 104 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: to teach people lessons. H and she had it stolen 105 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: from her. Luckily, Lizzie, Maggie was smart enough to patent 106 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: this game. Uh. It became just kind of a trendy thing. Again, 107 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: like if you were uh into socialism at the time 108 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: and you were on the East Coast, you probably hung 109 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: out at a friend's house and and um played this 110 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: game at some point in some incarnation or another. Yeah, 111 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: it was really popular, like you said, like people made 112 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: up some of their own rules, but it was if 113 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the original Landlords game board, 114 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: it looks a lot like the or Monopoly, I mean 115 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: similar at least. Yeah, and apparently a lot of the 116 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: the rules that make the game a lot more enjoyable 117 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: today came from uh Lizzie's quicker friends. Like, for example, um, 118 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: the original plots of land we're up for auction for 119 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: for bide. Quakers prefer silence, so they just put a 120 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: fixed price on the piece of land so there wouldn't 121 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: be a loud, obnoxious bidding war. Um. They also um 122 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: instituted tokens fun tokens before they were just boring ponds. Yeah, 123 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: like household objects, which you know, that's why the fimble 124 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: is in there, and originally the iron. We'll get to 125 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: those in a minute, but um, it's pretty exciting. Uh. 126 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: And then so this thing is being played and Lizzie 127 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Maggie holds the patent, but she's not exactly like um 128 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: cracking down on any kind of infringement. Really. Well, she 129 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: pitched at the Parker Brothers and they said no, Yeah, 130 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: so she just kind of went on doing her own thing. 131 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: So there's another lady actually that figures into this um. 132 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: The lady named Ruth Hoskins, and she was one of 133 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: the ones who caught on in the like Philadelphia, Atlantic 134 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: City area with her Quaker friends, uh, two of them 135 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: in particular, Jessie and Eugene Rayford. Uh. And they are 136 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: the ones who changed some of the rules to make 137 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: it look more like the monopoly we know. They taught 138 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: it to a friend, uh named Todd, and Todd taught 139 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: it to his friend named Charles Darrow. And that's where 140 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: the story takes a kind of a ceed turn. Well 141 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: actually that's where the Parker Brothers official version begins. Ironically 142 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: turned CD Brothers is like, hey, this is where our 143 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: story begins. Yeah. The inventor of Monopoly, Charles Darrow A right, 144 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: so he was like a radiator salesman during the depression. 145 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: This is the thirties, right, Yeah, I mean it was 146 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: ironically again during the depression, this game really caught hold. Well, 147 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: I supposedly that's what caught the Parker brothers attention was 148 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: that this guy came to came to him, came to 149 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: them to sell him this game which he had stolen. Yeah. 150 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Apparently he didn't innovate it at all. He kind of 151 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: just copied it and packaged it right, and said, hey, 152 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: what do you think of this? And the Parker Brothers said, 153 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: we don't think too much of it, Like how does 154 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: the game end? We don't know what's going on here, 155 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: so let's just, um, you just go your own way. 156 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: So Charles Darrow went off and started selling it at 157 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: this Wannamaker's department store in Philadelphia without pattenting it, right, 158 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: and um, the Parker Brothers said, you know what, it's 159 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: the depression, can you believe it. We're not going to 160 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: have any kind of economic woes like this for another 161 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: seventy eighty years. And this guy is selling these things 162 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: like hotcakes. You know what, sir, we will buy your 163 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: idea from you. And Charles Darrow apparently said, well, that's great. 164 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: Give me the money first and then I'll tell you 165 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: the second part of the story. And they gave him 166 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: a bag of money with a dollar sign on it, 167 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: much like the ones that um rich uncle Penny bags likes, 168 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: and he said, okay, um, we also need to buy 169 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: the patent off from this lady named Lizzie Maggie. Yeah, 170 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: which they did. Um, the game was still stolen, I say, 171 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: even though that they eventually did pay her money. But 172 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: part of the deal was they said, um, they they 173 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: agreed to buy her pattent and said, you know what 174 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna we'll sell a few of your other game 175 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: ideas too. None of those ever went anywhere, and she 176 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: was sort of lost to history except for people who 177 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: do a little bit of digging. Yeah, and we actually 178 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: have a guy named Ralph to thank for doing that 179 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: digging initially. We'll talk about him later. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, 180 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: because he's the one who came up with the unofficial 181 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: history and like really tracked it down. Boy, there's a 182 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: lot of teasers in this one so far so Um, 183 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: the Parker brothers now in the game, and uh, it 184 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: becomes a huge hit virtually off the bat. In the 185 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: thirties is when they bought it and started really printing it. Yeah, 186 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: and the game is based on Atlantic City. Uh, those 187 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: are the properties, and that's because that was the area 188 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: where it became popular. But um, this excellent New York 189 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Times article you sent, uh, what's the name of it? 190 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: Monopoly Goes Corporate. Yeah, it was written by what's the 191 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: what's the lady's name, Mary Pillin. She is a monopoly expert. 192 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of those out there, I've learned. She well, 193 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: she wrote a lot of the articles you'll find. Oh really, yeah, 194 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: she's well. She pointed out that it's interesting that it 195 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: mirrored sort of the the cartography of the day in 196 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: Atlantic City, like Boardwalk was clearly like a rich area 197 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: the Baltic and Mediterranean. The cheapest properties were in African 198 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: American neighborhoods. There was a reading railroad that transferred people 199 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: between Philly and Atlantic City. And little known fact for 200 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: our friends in the gay community, New York Avenue was 201 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: one of the earliest gay scenes in the country. Yeah, oh, 202 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: buy that one up and support support the lb GT 203 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: community that you're playing monopoly. Yeah, that's what I would do. 204 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: And maybe just you know, don't charge anybody when they land, 205 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: just be like this is the party place exactly. And 206 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Marvin Gardens apparently is misspelled yeah, E instead of an 207 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: eye or eye instead of an E. Yeah, on the 208 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: board it's an eye. It's supposed to be an E. Yeah. 209 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Monopoly facts dropping all around us 210 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: right now. I know it's raining thimbles. Before we go 211 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: any further, though, you want to do a message break, Yes, okay, 212 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: we'll be right packed what you want, all right, So 213 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: we were just talking about Atlantic City. Um, I guess 214 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: it's we can go ahead and point out now that 215 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: there are hundreds of versions of Monopoly out there, now, 216 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: one for your hometown, probably one for your favorite sports team. 217 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I have personally my version as a Star Wars Monopoly, 218 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: which is pretty fun. Um. Yeah, I guess hes pro 219 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: is like you've got some money, sure you can license this, 220 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: make your Monopoly game. Go ahead. There's a Simpsons Monopoly. 221 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: I haven't played it though, and not in addition to 222 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: the um licensed versions that you can find like everywhere 223 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: They also have like official versions to like there's a 224 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: U S version, there's a UK version, there's um a, 225 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: there's a new version that's called monopoly here and now 226 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: what does that even mean? Super corporate? Is this the 227 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: corporate one? Yeah? Okay, it's uh, it's like everything is 228 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: multiplied by I think a thousand, so the dollar amounts 229 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: are way higher. Is this one where they replaced the uh, 230 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: the railroads are replaced by airports? Is this one where 231 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: they replaced corporations for all the property? So? Yes, like McDonald's, 232 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: sony and god, who would want to play that? Some people? Do? 233 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? H um. I mean I'm not a 234 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: purist because I had the Star Wars version, but just 235 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: it's no fun to me to play as paramount pictures 236 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: and to buy the McDonald's property. Yeah, it's just me. Um. 237 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: So there are a bunch of different versions, but the 238 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: one we're going to talk about, we'll just talk about 239 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: the the normal version with the two thousand eight rules. Yeah, 240 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: and there's actually coming soon um later this year. There 241 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: you can go online at my Monopoly and you can 242 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: design your own board, is that right? And do like 243 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: your own neighborhood and then they will make it for you, 244 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: and I think it's like fifty bucks or something. Wow, 245 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: money bags, you can I'm not gonna do it. You 246 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: gonna do the East Lake. But I was. I was 247 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: talking to whoever went and got Yeah, rich uncle, rich 248 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: penny bags. That's what you should have said, rich uncle, 249 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: penny bag, penny bags. This sounds not not that wealthy. Well, 250 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: actually I have a bag of pennies on me right now. 251 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: He Forbes has their silly fictional fifteen list of fictional 252 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: characters wealth and he um in two thousand thirteen was 253 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: number is Uh stars declined to m huh, guess who 254 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: the first? The richest fictional character is the Incredible Hulk. No, 255 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: he was not rich Scrooge McDuck. Oh yeah, well dude, 256 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: he had that gold vault apparently sixty five billion. Uh. 257 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: Number two was smiling, which I thought it was kind 258 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: of silly smile from like the rings. It's the dragon. 259 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: I think I had like a bunch of gold. Uh. 260 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Carlisle Cullen number three, Tony Stark four, Charles Foster Kane 261 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: number five? Who's number three? Carlisle Cullen from Twilight? Who's that? 262 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: He was the dad vampire Dad of the vampire family. Um, 263 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: and he's been alive forever, so I guess he just 264 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: keeps accumulating. Well, Bruce Wayne Ritchie Rich, Christian Gray Ritchie Rich. 265 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: I forgot about him. He's number seven. He had a 266 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: robot made and crazy like a weird scientists friend, didn't 267 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: he Sure like a Richie Rich robot of himself. I 268 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: think he had that too, But no, it's made. Was 269 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: a robot, wasn't it? That was the Jetsons. No, he 270 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: had a Uh. I thought Monty Burns at number ten 271 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: was pretty good. Oh yeah, that's good, although I would 272 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: guess Mr Monopoly would be wealthier than Monty Burns. But 273 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: and they put it out each year and it's duma. 274 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Can we just admit that I was thrilled by it. 275 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: We just spent three minutes on it. Yeah, well that's true. Okay, 276 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: So Chuckers, you want to talk about the the rules 277 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: of the game again? Two rules if you are a 278 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: Monopoly purist and like, I'm sorry, this is what we're 279 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: going with. Yeah, well, let's talk about the game board itself, 280 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: just so if you haven't played it, I'm surprised because 281 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: I think like a billion people to play the game. Um, 282 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: but if you haven't, when you get your Monopoly game, 283 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna open it up and you're gonna have a 284 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: board with all these different properties in a square. Uh, 285 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: you you have two dice twelve they call them tokens. 286 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: That's not the right amount either, is it. No, there's eight. Yeah. 287 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand where they got twelve from unless they're 288 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: counting ones that maybe were retired or something like that. 289 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: But when you open the box, there's only eight. There, 290 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: there's a can we go over, there's a wheelbarrow, Scottie dog, 291 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: top hat, a cat which replaced the iron in two 292 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen. There's a big, big to do because Parker 293 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Brothers has Bro was like, we haven't made a lot 294 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: of money off of this for a couple of months, 295 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: so let's just do something. Well, they let people vote 296 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: at least, which is kind of cool, right, but it 297 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: was also did you see the other ones that they 298 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: were voting for. It's like a robot like Ritchie Rich's 299 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: main a guitar. They didn't make the cut though, No, 300 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: they got voted out and the cat got voted in. Yeah, 301 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: the iron got booted. Yeah, it only got eight percent 302 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: of the vote. There's the classic shoe of course or boot, 303 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: which is modeled after the nineteen thirties working shoe, and 304 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: I think they've kept it the same. Yeah, that's one 305 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: of the original ones. The Scottie Dog was not one 306 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: of the origins that came in the fifties. Yeah, and 307 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: I think that was supposed to be the companion of 308 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: uh millburn money Denny bags should be cash bags, fat 309 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: stacks stacks bag. There was a cannon which has since 310 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: been retired. Yeah, and two militaries, well, the cannon and 311 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: the battleship. Yeah. They were from a failed game called Conflict, 312 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: and they were like, well, we got all these pieces, 313 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: so let's just throw them in Monopoly for now. It's 314 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: pretty smart. But they faced the cannon out because it's 315 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: just too overtly violent. Um, it just says with any 316 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: without any fanfare or vote or campaign. So probably, yeah, 317 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: be my guess. If it's hush hush, yeah, it's probably 318 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: kind of violence. There's a conspiracy of foot. There's the 319 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: race car. Yeah, every little kid's favorite, which apparently had 320 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: a number three on the side for a little while. Yeah. 321 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: I didn't know that they were in hard I guess so, 322 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: uh or purse has been retired. The rocking horse was retired, 323 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: the lantern was retired. Yeah, I'm doing my best Ben 324 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: Bowl impressing. Did you do did you get wheelbarrow in 325 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: there yet? I think I know, yes I did. It 326 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: was the first one I said, Did you say top hat? Yeah? 327 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: That was always my favorite. Actually, I don't remember what 328 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: my favorite was. It fit on my pinking and I 329 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: used to draw faces. Uh the horse and rider, which 330 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: is retired, which I didn't know. That's one of the 331 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: best pieces to me. What you didn't know is retired. 332 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: Now I'm just kind of sad. Yeah, and now there 333 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: and that stack of money was retired as well, the 334 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: sack of money and a purse. Those are a little similar. Yeah. 335 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: The cat come on, yeah, cat people, that's exactly right. 336 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: I guarantee that's why they got cat voted in. And 337 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: I am a cat person, you know, and even you 338 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: think it's stupid. So those are the tokens. Some of 339 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: those tokens that we mentioned you're going to find in 340 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight set, and that is your piece. 341 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: That is what represents you in the game. Again for 342 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: the three people who have never played Monopoly, right, yeah, 343 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: because supposedly, um, at least as far as Hasbro calculates, 344 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: over one billion people have played Monopoly, and frankly, I'm 345 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: surprised it's that low. It sounds like an old number. Yeah. Um, okay, 346 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: So you've got the box open, you get the board, 347 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: you got two dice, you got the tokens, thirty two 348 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: houses in, twelve hotels, uh, sixteen chance cards, sixteen community 349 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: chest cards. Yeah, a title D card for each property. 350 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: It's got the information on it, like how much it 351 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: cost to purchase, how much rent is depending on how 352 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: many houses or hotels you have on it? Yeah, what 353 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: the mortgage value is worth, that's right. Um. And then 354 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: you've got your your play money, your monopoly money. Yeah. Man, 355 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: I think that's where it grabs kids because and they 356 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: even pointed out in this article that's. Um, it's kind 357 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: of the first time a lot of kids have money 358 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: to play with. Yeah, especially the Bill wants. Oh man, 359 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: that gold Bill always thought was orange? Is it gold? Uh? Yeah, 360 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: one's definitely golden rod like yellow. What I remember? Yeah, 361 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: I guess gold is the way to go. Uh. See, 362 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: I was a cash hoarder, which is no way to 363 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: win a monopoly I thought it was can't save. No, 364 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: I just just figures for me though, Like you gotta 365 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: spend money to make money. Yeah, I was like, look 366 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: at all this cash that I will soon be paying 367 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: to everyone else. You just keep wandering off from the 368 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: table and try to buy stuff with it did not work. 369 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: So Chuck, you got the board laid out, and if 370 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: you count them, if you're that kind of person, yeah, 371 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna find that there's forty squares, that's right. I believe, 372 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: twenty two of which are um no, twenty eight of 373 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: which can be purchased. Yeah, twenty two or properties. You've 374 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: got your your electric company and water works. Yeah, sucker's bet. 375 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: And then you've got the four railroads. Four railroads, So 376 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: that's that's right. There are others that you can't buy. So, 377 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: for example, there's a luxury tax square. Yeah, you gotta 378 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: pay what a hundred dollars when you land on that, 379 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: I believe, so right out of just right out of 380 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: your pocket. If there's an income tax square, yeah, no good. 381 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: There's the go square, which is where you start and 382 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: then when you come back around you collect two hundred dollars, 383 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: which is in monopoly called your salary that's right. I 384 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: never knew that. I didn't either, And there's a lot 385 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: of rules in here. Uh. And then I guess it's 386 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: a good time to point out Monopoly is one of 387 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: those games where house rules are highly encouraged, uh and 388 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the of the game, and in fact, 389 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: to make more money, Monopoly this year had are incorporating 390 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: the top house rules as voted on by fans as 391 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: official rules for this one version in a seventy dollar 392 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: hardback book. I don't see why a lot of people 393 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: were in since they were like no one placed by 394 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: the real rules anyway, So why bother packaging it and 395 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: selling it? And they went, I think you just said 396 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: the words sell someone's they sell. There in lies the answer. 397 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: So you've got, oh, there's and so there's forty squares, 398 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: but there's actually forty one places you can go to 399 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: on the board because jail is divided into two squares. 400 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: You got the jail with the jailbird. What's his name, Uh, 401 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: I can't remember, jailbird or something. Jake the jailbird, right, okay, 402 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: which is where Jake the jailbird is. And then you've 403 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: got the lower part of it. Um, it's just visiting. Yeah, 404 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: if you want to visit Jake, give him a bunt 405 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: cake with the nail filing would be very old school 406 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: or monopoly set with um maybe a map with an 407 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: escape route embedded in it. Hey, that sounds familiar. POWs 408 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: and World War Two were given such monopoly sets. True, 409 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: It's is strange to meybe, It's like where the Nazis 410 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: allowing monopoly sets to be delivered to POWs. Is that 411 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: what I'm seeing here? Maybe it's the Burmese. I mean, 412 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: you've seen the like the Great Escape on those those 413 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: the war prison camps in World War Two. It seemed 414 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: like a lot of them they let him like garden 415 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: and they were kind of chummy with him. He saw 416 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: Hoggan's heroes, saw Hogans heroes and put a lot of 417 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: stock into it. Yeah. But yeah, no, I just figured 418 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: to soccer. Maybe the Japanese or the Burmese or the 419 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: the Italians I could see like saying like, yeah, he 420 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: brings the monopoly and who cares. But the Nazis, I 421 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: would think, would I just don't see that. Yeah, I'm 422 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: not saying it was a walk in the park, but 423 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: I think from the depiction and uh, like like I said, 424 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: like the Great Escape. It's not like Vietnam Prison Camp. 425 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, like they weren't playing soccer or Monopoly. 426 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: They were playing Survive Another Day that game. Um, I'm 427 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: not making lie of that, by the way. Oh I 428 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: didn't think you were. And I'm basing everything on more movies, 429 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: so I'm probably wrong. And I've seen Uncommon Valor that 430 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: was a good movie that it doesn't age well though. 431 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: Really remember that menu with the gun silhouettes on it. 432 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and when you're twelves, you're like, oh my god. Yeah, 433 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: it's like I would buy that one in that one. Um. 434 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 1: All right, so where were we we were talking about? Um, 435 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: the board itself, yes, and the different squares. Yes, there 436 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: are the cards that you can draw as well, Community 437 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: chest and chance squares. You land on these you draw 438 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: a card from one of those two piles, and there 439 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: are various things in there, like you want to fashion 440 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: modeling contest you get ten dollars, and their dog show 441 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: one there too. I think there's probably a dog show 442 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: and there's also you know, you have street repairs or 443 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: um those are big time general repairs, and that's based 444 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: on your properties that you own. That's right. They can 445 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: they can can teach you pretty hard. Yeah, yeah, that's right, 446 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: you know. Um, and that's funny because the Monopoly what 447 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: was her name, Lizzie Maggie in an interview um, she 448 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: gave with some leftist magazine at the time. Um. She 449 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: said she basically called the thing the Game of Life. Yeah, 450 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: that was already taken out. I don't know, was it. Yeah, 451 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: that was that's around since the Like midd, I thought 452 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: she was being pressing it. Now she's being glib. She was. 453 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: She was making a pop culture reference for the time exactly. 454 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: But did you know apparently there used to be a 455 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: square on the Game of Life board for suicide. Really 456 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: it was the way that you could go. I never 457 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: really played that. I think I played it a couple 458 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: of times. I never did either. I always thought it 459 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: was kind of like you get the whole family in 460 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: the car and it's like whatever. Yeah, we we did, um. 461 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean we weren't the biggest game players as families, 462 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: but we did Monopoly some in Yatzi was a big 463 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: one that I still enjoyed today. I love Yatsu. Yeah. 464 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: We also played this game called Bull and it was 465 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: like a stock trading game with cards. And it's just 466 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: now occurring to me that all these games are just 467 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: teaching you about life. Yeah, it's like real monopolies, nothing 468 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: but real estate. Uh, the game of life is everything. 469 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: This game Bowl was about the stock market. Sorry, it 470 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: was about um sarcastic. Sorry because you had to say 471 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: it like a jerk. Candy Land, we know what that's 472 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: all about. Yeah, drugs, right, probably Shoots and ladders tell 473 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: you to stay away from snakes. Yeah, operation tell you 474 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: how to be the door. Oh yeah, that's right, that's right. 475 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: I got my m D. And then of course, uh, 476 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: Battleship taught you how to be a warmonger, to risk, 477 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: can take great pride. Risk taught you to be the Antichrist. Yeah, risk, 478 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: we should do what. There is an article on risk 479 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: I saw. I looked it over. It didn't seem as 480 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: as interesting as this one. Yeah. I don't know if 481 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: the history is as interesting. And I mean, isn't that 482 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: what what's interesting about any game, the history of it? Yeah? 483 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: I think so. So. Um, let's talk about the rules, dude. Okay, 484 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: let's start at the beginning. We'll start it. Go go. 485 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: It is where you start, and that's where you like 486 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: you said, you collect the two hundred every time you 487 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: land on it or pass it. Sometimes house rules, uh 488 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: you get four hundred for actually landing on it and 489 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: only two hundred for passing it. We never good. But 490 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: free parking is where we had house rules. Um, that 491 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: is a space on the corner of the board where 492 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: you supposedly for the official rules, don't do anything. Yeah, 493 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing. It's just a space. But what we did 494 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: was we donated all the collected taxes and fees and 495 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: put it under free parking. And if you land on that, 496 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: that was like a lottery win. Oh yeah, and a 497 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: lot of people play that way. I think I've heard 498 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: of that one before. I liked it because they allowed 499 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: you more money, which is my favorite thing. Catch it's 500 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: alto yeah exactly. Uh, we got ahead of ourselves. Let's 501 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: just start at the real beginning. So everybody sits down 502 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: at the table, maybe because somebody, yeah, somebody gets a drink. 503 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you have to wait because somebody has to go 504 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, So you're all sitting there quietly. And 505 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: then when everybody's finally at the table, you guys select 506 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: a banker, and the banker distributes the Monopoly money to 507 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: each player to five hundreds, to fifties, six twenties, and 508 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: five tens, five fives and five ones. That's hundred dollars. 509 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: And the goal of the game that we're getting to 510 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: here at thirty minutes in is to bankrupt all of 511 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: your family and friends. That's the whole point pretty much. Um. 512 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: Some people put a time limit because this game can 513 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: go on forever um, and other people say, no, it's 514 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: got a you gotta finish it by bankrupting everyone or 515 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: until the last person. That's like, I give jeez, I've 516 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: got eight dollars. I hate this game. Yeah. That's usually 517 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: me and Emily is usually has her foot on my throat. 518 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we played two person Monopoly, which is 519 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: just not fun. Yeah, because you know one of you 520 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: is gonna lose. No, that's not why. It's just it's 521 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: a game that's more fun with more people. I think, Yeah, 522 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: I got yeah. Um, so okay, so everybody's got fifteen bucks. 523 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: You roll the dice to see who goes first. Whoever 524 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: rules the highest goes first. Classic. Then you roll both 525 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: die and you start moving from the ghost square and 526 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: you go clockwise around the board. And when you land 527 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: on a property. This I didn't know, which is kind 528 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: of a basic rule, I guess, but I never played 529 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: it this way. When you land on a property, you 530 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: have the option to buy it. I knew that part. 531 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: But if you decline to buy it, then the then 532 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: the property goes up for ACKs. I've never not only 533 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: have I never played it the way, I've never heard 534 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: of anyone playing it. Okay, so it's not just me, 535 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: not just you, all right, So uh I guess. Uh, 536 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: the during an auction, not only the person, not only 537 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: everybody else, but the banker and the person who declined 538 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: to buy it can bid on it, which didn't make 539 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: sense unless you're trying to get for lower because can't 540 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: you start the bidding it wherever. Yes, you can start 541 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: the bidding anywhere you want, so you could consumably get 542 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: it for lower. And if you're playing against somebody who 543 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: declines to buy something and then starts bidding on a 544 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: lower price, keep an eye on that person that sharp 545 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: to win. Yeah. Uh yeah, I hate that rule because 546 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: to me, it's just like, what's the point and rolling 547 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: and landing on something? I guess right at first refusal, 548 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, I don't like it now. 549 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: And plus the Quakers were like, we specifically put a 550 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: price on these things so there wouldn't be a lot 551 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: of yelling. Yeah, we don't like yelling. Uh. They had 552 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: another game to follow called the quiet roof raising ceremony. 553 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Those are not Quakers, that was the Amist. They're different. 554 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: Oh don't you think Quakers raise some roofs? Yeah, they ain't. 555 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: No party like a Quaker party. All right. So let's 556 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: say you buy all of the properties that you know 557 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: they're they're divided into different colors, Like there's three green 558 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: around you know, green ones, orange ones, blue ones, light blue. Um. 559 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: If you buy all of the properties that are tied 560 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: together by a single color, then you have what's called 561 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: a monopoly, and that means you can then charge double rent, 562 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: although we never do that. We just keep it single rent. 563 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: And you now have the option to buy houses. And 564 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: then once you have enough houses I think three, you 565 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: can then buy a hotel and let's call improvements. You're 566 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: improving your land. And once you start to do improvements, um, 567 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: things change a little bit. Not only can you start 568 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: making more money, but it's actually harder to mortgage your 569 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: properties if you are if you find yourself in debt, right, 570 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: because this is this is how crazy complicated it is. 571 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't think I was ever paying that much 572 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: attention to monopoly that I ever mortgaged a piece of land. 573 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: I think it's like started to get into debt or whatever. 574 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: I was just like I'm done. Um, But apparently so 575 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: if you find yourself indebted, and let's say you have 576 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: a monopoly and um, you want to mortgage, you can 577 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: mortgage just one of the spots, right, But to do so, 578 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: let's say you have a hotel um on the that 579 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: piece of land that you're mortgaging, you first have to 580 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: sell the hotel back to the bank at half price, 581 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: and then you can mortgage the land. You're still I think, 582 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: are you collecting rent on that land? Or doesn't go 583 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: right to the bank. Now that's where um, you just 584 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: turn the card over and it's just you still technically 585 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: own it, but you can't collect any rents on it. 586 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: But you can't collect rent and everything on the other 587 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: two pieces of property or the other one, depending on 588 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: which one you own. I don't know, really you can't. 589 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: I looked it up. So that doesn't bust up the monopoly, No, 590 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: it doesn't Okay, so you still own the monopoly. It's 591 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: just that that one is mortgaged, and then to get 592 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: it back you have to pay the bank the mortgage 593 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: plus ten percent. Right. And this is where you can 594 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: get silly with your house rules if you want. Yeah, 595 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: you know, like as far as mortgaging and stuff like that, 596 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: because supposedly it's a rule to where you can't um. 597 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: The only thing that is not allowed as a personal loan. 598 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: And I did all kinds of personal loaning because I 599 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: was Mr Cash. What were your your interest rates? I 600 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: don't remember. Did you break any usury laws? No? That 601 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: was a kid, so it was it was probably just 602 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: like just pay me back whenever or something. I'm not 603 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: the right I'm not enough of a you're not the 604 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: start capitale. Now you're not the one who like declines 605 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: to buy something so you can bid on at a 606 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: lower price. I'm playing candy Land. I loved candy Land. 607 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: Actually I never played that. It was a great game, 608 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: was it because of the art? Crazy? It was beautiful 609 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: off and then nowa daisy look at the candy landpoint 610 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, poor kids, Yeah, they don't know what 611 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: they're missing. I just got a Ticket to Ride game 612 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: that I haven't played yet. Have you heard of that one? 613 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: It was a German game that's like one game of 614 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: the year. It's a train train game, like you established 615 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: train routes between cities. Um, but it's supposedly like it 616 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: sounds like really that's fun, but it's supposedly great. I 617 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: just bled it t here. Did you at the thought 618 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: of it? Yeah, it does sound pretty bad, but no, 619 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's one game in the year. Why those 620 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: Germans and watch people Ticket to Ride enthusiasts will be like, dude, 621 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: it's the best ever I've heard. Like, German game night 622 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: is like a thing. Now, Yeah, I think they're a 623 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: little more heavy. Is that what it is? I think? 624 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: So this seems like I've read over the rules the 625 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: other night just so I would know what to do. 626 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: And because you've got to like the purchase over the 627 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: game has to be the game explainer as well. You 628 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: have to listen to craftword while you play. Yeah, well 629 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to, but it helps house rules. Yeah, 630 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: so oh um, I guess we oh and we said 631 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: you you can do anything but give personal loans, right, 632 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: that's what the official rules state. So, like you can 633 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: I can buy from you on the side or something 634 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: like that, or you can hold something up for auction, 635 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: whatever anybody's doing. Yeah, and we always played where you 636 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: had to do that when it was your turn, and 637 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: that that would take your turn as well. Yeah. Um, 638 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: but again, the whole point is is to be the 639 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: person who owns the most stuff so that you can 640 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: bankrupt all of your family and friends. And I mean, 641 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: those are the rules, but there's actually strategy to it, 642 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: and people pay a lot of attention to this. You know, 643 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: there's a Monopoly World Championship ropeally every four years, although 644 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: it's been the last one in two thousand nine, so 645 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: we're due an American lawyer one, right, and no, I 646 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: think it was a Swede or maybe he was the 647 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: North American. That's what he was, the North American champion 648 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: and he represented the US and the world. Chan it shifts. 649 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: It sounds so silly. Yeah, well he uh he used 650 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: the iron. Yeah, I think the American used the thimble. 651 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: That's a that's the fact that people need. Well, we're 652 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: trying to really appeal to the purists here too, which 653 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: at everybody to be engaged. Okay, chucker, So again, the 654 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: point bankrupt. Everybody bankrupt. But there's like techniques that you 655 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: can use to more efficiently bankrupt people, like the the 656 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: overall the best strategy. The basic strategy is to buy 657 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: everything every chance you have. Yeah, I mean I've looked up. 658 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different people's uh strategies and opinions online. Um. 659 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: I did find this one from a guy and that 660 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: was his strategy is by everything, it doesn't matter what 661 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: it is, even the suckers bet the electric company and 662 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: the water works, Yeah, which I don't pay off. Really, 663 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: he said, buy it all and and never have more 664 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: than a hundred dollars in cash is his rule. He 665 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: says the number one people must mistake people make is 666 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: hoarding cash like I did. Yeah, you're making the number 667 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: one mistake, that's right. Uh. And he says that, um, 668 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: buy everything and do whatever it takes to get a monopoly, 669 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: even a bad one, like he will trade to get 670 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: a bad monopoly and give someone a good monopoly, even 671 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: as long as he gets the monopoly. And he says 672 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: it's fine because then you know, you two will probably 673 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: take out everyone else. Uh. The point is just to 674 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: get a monopoly and improve it as fast as you 675 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: can so supposedly though, Um, a general rule of film 676 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: among like hardcore monopoly players is that while you're improving 677 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: your monopoly your properties by adding houses or whatever, you 678 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: want to stop at three houses because the jump from 679 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: the third house to the hotel is financially it doesn't 680 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: pay off. Usually it's over improvement. Yeah, just like in 681 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: your home, like, don't build that eighty thousand dollar kitchen 682 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: because you're not gonna get your money back on that, right, 683 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: So three three houses. This guy doesn't subscribe to that. 684 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: He buys everything and puts hotels on it. Yeah, he says, 685 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: as first as he get as soon as he gets 686 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: his first monopoly, he mortgages everything else to get cash 687 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: back and then uses that cash to improve, which I 688 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: thought was a little risky. Yeah, a couple of bad roles. 689 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a game of strategy, but the end 690 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: of the day, you're rolling dice, and so it is 691 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: very much a game of chance. I'll bet that guy 692 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: feels like he's on the back of a pegasus though 693 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: the whole game, Like he's just thrilled. He claims. He 694 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: claims to have won a game in twelve minutes one time, 695 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: which I thought was shooting his own horn a bit. 696 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah sure, Um, but real regular strategy. You're right, they 697 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: say three houses is the max you should go. Um, 698 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: and then there's also some that you should avoid. Even 699 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: though this seemed like very tempting, we already said the 700 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: electric company and the water company, the utilities. The the 701 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: most you can get for rent from landing on it 702 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: was ten times a roll of the dice, which is 703 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty bucks. It could be as low 704 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: as twenty dollars. So I mean, this guy would probably say, well, hey, 705 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: it was worth it, Like I still own them and 706 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm still making money if somebody lands on them. But 707 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 1: a lot of Again, the monopoly pierists say just stay 708 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: away from him. And you also may want to stay 709 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: away from the most expensive ones boardwalk in park Place. 710 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah they're they're only two of them, and um, they 711 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: just don't get landed on very much. Yeah, so think 712 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: about it right out of the gate when you're thinking 713 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: of probabilities. Um, the fact that there's two of these 714 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: properties rather than three means that you are that another 715 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: player is less likely to land on your monopoly because 716 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: there's three or two instead of three. So that's one problem. 717 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: The other problem is placement where they are. They're right 718 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: after um go right for right before. Yeah, so it's 719 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: at the end of the board essentially. No, I'm sorry, 720 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: they're right before jail. No, they're right before, they're right 721 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: before go. Okay. So that means that most most players 722 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: are going to well, they're going to pass them for 723 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: sure whenever they hit that um go directly to go 724 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: exactly yeah. Um. So that means that your your monopoly 725 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: is going to be passed over. The likelihood of making 726 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: your money back recouping it, especially if they're improved to 727 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: the hilt, like a really fancy hotel, means that a 728 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of money. Yeah, you you've probably sunk a lot 729 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: of money unwisely into those You want to go for 730 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: some other ones, Yeah, supposedly, and there are people that 731 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: have done Uh. There was this one guy. If you 732 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: really want to get into monopoly, this dude, I don't 733 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: even know his name, but just look up probabilities in 734 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: the game of Monopoly and Scientific American in the mid 735 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: nineties at the article that talked about probabilities of landing 736 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: on different spaces, but they excluded um community chest and 737 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: chance and being sent to jail. So this guy said, 738 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: I took all of that and included everything, and he 739 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: has a statistical charts long term probabilities for ending up 740 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: on each square, expected income per opponent role, average income 741 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: per role, expected number of opponent role, to recoup incremental 742 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: costs UH, to recoup mortgages. So it's the name of 743 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: his website. By the way, his monopoly was fun dot com. 744 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: It totally should be um, but um. If you just 745 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: want to do some basic probabilities, the orange properties are 746 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: landed on more than anyone else. Yes, and why chuck 747 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,479 Speaker 1: because they are after jail. Yeah, six eight and nine 748 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: spaces after jail. Yeah. So if you get sent to jail, 749 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: which is going to happen at some point and we 750 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: actually we didn't talk about jail, we'll talk about that, 751 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: then you, uh, yeah, chances are you're gonna hit one 752 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: of those orange squares on your way out of jail. Yeah, 753 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 1: because you're rolling with two dice, so you're much more 754 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: likely to roll like a six, s eight or a 755 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: nine then you are like a two or three or 756 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: a one. Yeah. It's not even possible to roll at one. 757 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: Try it. You can't. You can't unless you eat one 758 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: of the dice, and in which case, unless it's a 759 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: house rule, everybody's gonna yell at you and have to 760 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: wait around until you poop it out to keep playing. Actually, 761 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: our rule was you had to roll the child in 762 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: what the child you ate the dice? Oh yeah, all right, 763 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: So jail um is in the corner of the board, 764 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: and you can there are a few different ways you 765 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: can go there. You can draw a go to jail card. 766 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: You can throw three doubles in a row and go 767 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: to jail. Yeah, which I never understood because that's a 768 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: good thing, I guess, but it's also the sign of 769 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: the devil. So that's why you have to go to 770 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: jail for a little while to be cleansed. Or there 771 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: is a square march to go to jail, and you 772 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: can land on that and go to jail. You can 773 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: also get out in three ways. You can have that 774 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: get out of Jail free card. If you draw that, 775 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: you can hold onto it. We could sell it, although 776 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: I think that's a house rule. You can sell it 777 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: to a friend or enemy, uh, whoever, whoever had the 778 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: most cast right exactly. Uh. And then you basically the 779 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: other ways to roll to either pay your way out 780 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,959 Speaker 1: for with fifty bucks or to roll your way out. 781 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: The way we played it was each turn you had 782 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: one chance to roll your way out of jail. So 783 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: you rolling doubles right, um, and then if you under 784 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: official rules, if you don't roll doubles for three consecutive turns, 785 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: like you get three consecutive chances to roll doubles, and 786 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: if you don't on any of those turns, then you 787 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: have to pay fifty bucks to get out of jail. 788 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: We just played where you just got out and you 789 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: didn't have to pay. Well, then you guys weren't following 790 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: the rules. I told you the house rules us. So 791 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: there's actually a strategy to jail. Um, if you go 792 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: to jail early on in the game, you want to 793 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: pay your fifty bucks to get out immediately, just pay 794 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: the fifty bucks because then you can keep going around 795 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: the board and there's more stuff lable to buy. But 796 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: later in the game you want to just kind of 797 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: hang out in jail. Yeah, Like Josh has bought all 798 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: the orange spaces and you've got hotels on each one, 799 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking that might be good to sit in 800 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: jail for a few rounds. Yeah, because you can still 801 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: collect rent on your properties, but the fact that you're 802 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: in jail keeps you off of my properties. Yeah, and 803 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: all another Bryant rule we played where when you were 804 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: in jail you could not collect any rents. Yeah, I 805 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: mean that makes sense, but according to official rules, you 806 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: just make as much money as you want there, and 807 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: apparently in jail you can officially you can also buy 808 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: and sell properties and improve your in collect rent, and 809 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: build hotels and houses, which I thought, I don't know, 810 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: if you're in jail, kind of lose that right. It 811 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: seems like in real jail that's the way it is. No, 812 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: it's not. You can own a house and be in jail. 813 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: I guess that's true, and technically you could probably charge 814 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: rent to someone. You could sub let it, like I'm 815 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna be gone for three to six. No, it's true. 816 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: But what happens when dis roster breaks trying to get 817 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: let out of jail to go fix it. They're not 818 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna let you do that. It's very funny, but it's 819 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: true too. Uh. Probability experts also say you get a 820 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: good return on buying all the railroads because they're pretty cheap. 821 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: There's one on each side, and once you have each 822 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: once you own all of them. Um, they're two hundred 823 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: dollars in rent, so that's not too bad, not too shabby, 824 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: but to me, and monopoly is the reason monopolies are valuable. 825 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: But it is because they're in a row, whereas the 826 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 1: railroads are spaced out. And our friend, the strategist who 827 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: thinks he uh invented the game says, but what you 828 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: have to remember is none of these strategies matter because 829 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: you're playing. It's a game of people and personalities. So 830 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: he said, you gotta sit back and watch the different 831 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: personalities emerge and then you manipulate that like the cash 832 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: hoarder versus the shark. And uh, he's like, you really 833 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: playing against people. Man, that's interesting, I thought. So okay, 834 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: so let's talk about another friend, an economist friend. His 835 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: name is Ralph Ant Spock. Yes, and he back in 836 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: the seventies had a game called anti Monopoly. Yeah. He 837 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: was an econ professor at San Francisco States and um, 838 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: like made his own real game. Like he didn't just 839 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: like draw it up on paper, like, he started a 840 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: little small business and manufactured it. Apparently sold about two 841 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: thousand copies of it, like, right, out of the gate, 842 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: like it just hit a nerve. Again. It's called anti monopoly, 843 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: and the whole point of it was to break up 844 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: monopolies rather than build monopolies. Yeah. At the beginning of 845 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: the game is essentially the end of a regular game, 846 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: like everyone starts off with monopolies. Uh. And instead of 847 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: real estate and utilities, um and anti monopoly, they had 848 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: their individual busins. This is that had been brought under 849 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: a single ownership, and you take the role of federal 850 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: caseworker and bring indictments against monopolized businesses. In order to 851 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: turn return the board to a free market system. You 852 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: have to wear sensible shoes. It sounds awesome. Yeah. Well, 853 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: and he came up with this because he was trying 854 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: to apparently explain to his son what was wrong and 855 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 1: bad about monopolies and I suspect capitalism to a certain extent, 856 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,479 Speaker 1: and he came up with this game instead, Like I said, 857 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: sold a substantial amount two copies of the game, especially 858 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: back in the seventies, that was pretty good as a startup. Yeah, 859 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: you know, and it caught Parker brothers attention enough that 860 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: they sent him a cease and desist letter, took him 861 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: to court, got a court order for him to hand 862 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: over his like thirty seven thousand copies that he had 863 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: in his warehouse, and um they Parker Brothers went and 864 00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: unceremoniously buried him in a landfill in Minnesota. So, UM, 865 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: Ralph didn't cott into this very much. He didn't like that. 866 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't like to be pushed around. I get the impression. No, 867 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: I mean, a guy who makes anti monopoly is not 868 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 1: gonna cave in the courts initially, and he did so, 869 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: like very much, at his own financial detriment. He had 870 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: a very expensive team of lawyers at first, UM and 871 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: spent quite a bit of money fighting Parker Brothers for 872 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: the right to use anti Monopoly, and UM what, it 873 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: wasn't really going anywhere and he was losing a lot 874 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: of money. So he started to do legwork himself, found 875 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: a lawyer friend UM who worked on the cheap for him, 876 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: and that's when things started taking off. Yeah, I mean, 877 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: he basically uncovered the lie that it was invented by 878 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: Charles Darrow. He found out that the game was essentially 879 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: in the public domain, or should have been, and UM 880 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: went all the way to the Supreme Court. One. Yeah, 881 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: he won at the Supreme Court, this acount professor came 882 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: up with a game called Anti Monopoly. One in the 883 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court won the right to name his game anti Monopoly. Yeah, 884 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean he he deposed the the two Quakers that 885 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 1: were friends of Hoskins. They were old at that point. 886 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: They took the stand. Um. He deposed the CEO of 887 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: Parker Brothers, and he took the stand and it had 888 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: to admit under oath like, yeah, we did kind of 889 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: steal it nice the idea from that lady Um after all. 890 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: And so, as Ralph says, the the whole point to 891 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: him was for this true story, the true origins of 892 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: monopoly and how it came about, the whole point of 893 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,479 Speaker 1: it originally could still be told openly that what he said, 894 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 1: um couldn't be bought at any price in his opinion, 895 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: that's right, So way to go, Ralph. Yeah, he wrote 896 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: a book, uh awkwardly titled the Billion Dollar Monopoly in 897 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: swindle Colin during David and Goliath battle. Anti Monopoly uncovers 898 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: the secret history of Monopoly. That's a little clunky, little clunky, 899 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: but it's still around. Um In. There was a new 900 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: version called Anti Monopoly too, where you could actually be 901 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 1: a monopolist or a competitor. So you got to choose, 902 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting. And Uh, if you chose 903 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: the competitor, you charge lower rents and you can improve 904 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: property at anytime. But if you're a monopolist, you have 905 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 1: to own at least two properties before in a group, 906 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: before building houses, in charge a lot higher rents. So 907 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: I think you're like playing against the two systems within 908 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 1: the same game. That's really interesting. Yeah, I'm gonna I 909 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: might grab one of these and see what it's like. 910 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: Maybe tell everybody's German. Uh, you got anything else? I 911 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 1: got nothing else. I do the longest Monopoly game of 912 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: all time seventy days. I played a game of risk 913 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: that seemed like it lasted that long once. It may have. 914 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: It didn't last long, but lasted a weekend. Okay, um, 915 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: and Monopoly. I don't have the patience for that. I'll 916 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: just give up. I'll take my cafit cash and go 917 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: home your horde of it. Yeah, you're like, oh, that's 918 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: saved all this money. That's right, and I own the utilities. Uh. 919 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about Monopoly, including how 920 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: to play, if you don't like house rules, but you 921 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: also don't feel like looking at the official rule book, 922 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: you can just go on the how Stuff works and 923 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: check out the rules that is in this article to 924 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: site monopoly in the search bar at house to works 925 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: dot com. And since as I searched bar, it's time 926 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: for chuck Facebook questions. Uh so, people, this is what 927 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 1: we do sometimes when we don't have a listener mail prepared, 928 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: we will go on Facebook asked for questions, and then 929 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: over the course of a couple of episodes, we will 930 00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: read those out in rapid fire like fashion. We don't 931 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: do anything in rapid fire fast. I couldn't even explain 932 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: rapid fire fashion and rapid fire. All right, So I'm 933 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna start this off with Louise Benjamin says, with as 934 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: many shows as he recorded, how many would you like 935 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,760 Speaker 1: to go back and redo? Um, just a small handful. 936 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: I would say that. I was literally kind of like, 937 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm really disappointed with that. Yeah, you're a little harder 938 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: honest than I am. Though. What's weird is like any 939 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: time I do say like that was terrible, You're like, yeah, 940 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't bad, and I'll go back and listen to 941 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: I'll be like it was way better than I thought. 942 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: That's what Jerry says when you leave the room. She says, 943 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: they're always better than anything's. Oh really, I didn't realize 944 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 1: Jerry talked about me when I wasn't here or spoke 945 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: at all when I was in she was not allowed. Alright, 946 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 1: you got one, I do. Um. Let's see, do either 947 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: of us have a preference as to what type of 948 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 1: vacuum cleaner you use? That's from Taylor Jean Warner with 949 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: the most pedestrian question anyone's ever asked. Uh not if 950 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: you were into vacuuming, My friend, very important. I love vacuuming. 951 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 1: I have an electro luck canister vacuum. Oh really, I 952 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 1: call it LuxI and Emily is not allowed to operate it. Yeah. 953 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 1: Uh you mean. And I have a Dyson one of 954 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: the little, not the big one. Yeah, one of the 955 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: smaller ones. Yeah, with the yellow ball. Uh just a 956 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: regular upright back. Yeah yeah. I got on the canister 957 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: thing years ago. I love him. I don't know why 958 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: this thing took Like you know, they they're like, you 959 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: never loses suction, it's very powerful or whatever. I accidentally 960 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: rolled over the cord to charge my phone. It sucked 961 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: the rubber off of the cord. Yeah, I had to 962 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: put electrical TakeBack on. It does suck. All right, that's 963 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: some buzz marketing. Joseph Campbell, what is your advice on 964 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: how to have a successful marriage? Joseph Campbell asked us 965 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: a question. Yeah, wow, you should know this question. Her answer, Uh, Mary, Mary, 966 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: your friend. It's my biggest piece of advice. That's a 967 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: good one because if you don't like your spouse, then 968 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: you can't love your spouse. Yeah. Mary, the person you 969 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: want hang out with the most, you should write a 970 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: self help book. The end, I have another one for you, 971 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: Chuck read. Yes. Bethany Jackson asks are you ever going 972 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 1: to get another pet Goat? No out, Well, never say never. Yeah, 973 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 1: one day I will when I retire, Like to the country, 974 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: I would love another goat? Is they're the best? That 975 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: answers that. Josh kry Obermac says, what is your favorite 976 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,439 Speaker 1: Simpsons episode? Oh, that's a tough one, but I'm gonna 977 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: have to go with the old standby of Mr Sparkle. 978 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Montaeel's or any of the Halloween 979 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: like one through ten or so those are just great. 980 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: Um Robert Browning Justice League or Avengers. I don't know 981 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 1: what that means. Really, Yeah, you do. As a kid, 982 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: I was Justice League. I was way more into that. 983 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 1: But here's an adult like that Avengers movie is great. 984 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm into that. Justice League is DC. Yeah, Superman definitely, Batman. Yeah, 985 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: although I like the the super Friends. That was all 986 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: Justice League, wasn't it. Uh? Yeah, okay, well I have 987 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: a coherent answer, then okay for live action animation, not 988 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: live action, but for animation, I prefer Justice League. For 989 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: comic books, I preferred um Avengers Marvel. Well in the 990 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: new movie. Uh, they're doing the Superman Batman movie and 991 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: then a full on Justice League movie is just leading 992 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: up to that. So we'll see jury's out. Yeah on 993 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: motion pictures, but yeah, it's gonna be hard. Took the 994 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: Avengers maybe not was not motion pictures cartoon only, no, no, no, 995 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the new movies that are coming out soon. 996 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: Billy Schultz says, were they're rejected titles for the podcast? 997 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: Before you landed on stuff you should know? Since you 998 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: named it, I think you should answer. I came up 999 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: with a bunch of um ideas. One of them was 1000 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: McNeil Lair News Hour, but that was already taken, but 1001 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: Stephie shows in the original list of ideas, what Terminator two? 1002 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: Judgment day? All right, get your next? Do you want 1003 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: me go next? Yeah? Um, let's see. Oh this is 1004 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: a good one. Christopher mark Ree says, which of the 1005 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: two are your favorite person for promoting science? Bill Nye 1006 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: or Neil Degrath Tyson? Good one, man, They're both so great, 1007 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: I say, and d T Yeah yeah, Cosmos is awesome. 1008 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: It is awesome. He also, um is totally comfortable like 1009 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: rocking a shirt un buttoned at the top. Two Like 1010 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: he's he's like the Billy d Williamson. Yeah, uh yeah. 1011 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 1: And he was on her TV shows, which is really nice. 1012 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: You kind of have to go with him, all right. Um, 1013 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: he's a good guy. Naomi Hartman garum. Oh. This is 1014 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: fromer Son Jackson age nine. What was your favorite book 1015 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: when you were kids? My favorite book when I was 1016 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: a kid was like around your age or younger, was 1017 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: The Great Christmas Kidnapping Caper. It's about a bunch of 1018 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: mice in New York that moved into Macy's during Christmas 1019 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: time and uh, Santa is kidnapped and they sold the cakes. Wow. 1020 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: It was a great great book. What was they called 1021 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: The Great Christmas Kidnapping Caper? And it wasn't like a 1022 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: little kid's book. I mean, that was my first novel. 1023 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,919 Speaker 1: It was long, long form. That was your favorite book 1024 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 1: when you're a kid. Yep. My favorite book when I 1025 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: was a little kid was a Christmas book. I think 1026 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: it was a golden book called something like a Visit 1027 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: to Santa's Workshop or something. Yeah, it was so cute. 1028 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: And then, uh, strangely, the first series of novels that 1029 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: I ever loved were Ramona Quimby books. Oh really, man, 1030 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: I used to eat those up and I would take 1031 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: flak too at school. I didn't I love those books? Yeah? 1032 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: I loved Encyclopedia Brown. Oh yeah, he was good. And 1033 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,919 Speaker 1: then you know, when I was younger, younger, you can't 1034 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: do better than Dr Susan Chel Silverstein, stuff like that. 1035 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: The classes. Um, I've got one, all right, go ahead, 1036 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: h if this is from Alejandro Sandy. So you could 1037 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: live in any era of history, which time would you 1038 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: live in? Why? That's always so hard. I'm going back 1039 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: to what I said before me you me Cuba nineteen twenties. Okay, 1040 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say New York and like, I 1041 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,439 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe the nineteen thirties that'd be pretty fun. 1042 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: That's a drinking and dancing. Yeah, well that's the Cuba 1043 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: in the twenties. Yeah, exactly, you just had the Latin flavor. Uh, 1044 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Kinzie, which pickled thing? Do you prefer most eggs, cucumbers, peppers, 1045 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,439 Speaker 1: or cauliflower or anything else? I don't need pickled things, 1046 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: So that's you. I love pickled everything. It's so good 1047 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: for you too. Oh really? Oh yeah, it helps you 1048 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: digest bats a lot are easily. Um. It's just really healthy, 1049 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: like eating pickled stuff. You don't like pickles, don't? Um? 1050 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: I have one more ala Aslin Bridel boy. There's some 1051 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 1: weird names on Facebook. How do I make a ten 1052 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 1: year old more responsible? You're getting all the heavy questions 1053 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: like secret to successful Marrits, How do you make your 1054 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: kid good? I think you know you gotta get put 1055 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: them to work, make them make or get them a pet. 1056 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 1: You make them responsible for something and that they're interested in. 1057 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: It would be my advice. I agree with both of 1058 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: your pieces of advice. Marry the person that you want 1059 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: to spend time with you and did your kid at Hamster. Yes, 1060 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: put them to work. Charge money. You got any more? Yeah? 1061 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: I got too many more? Pick one? Okay are you ready? Yes? 1062 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: The one that I pick is as follows uh from 1063 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Mike Reels, Arnie or Stallone. It depends on the year. 1064 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say I would go Schwarzenegger. Yeah, 1065 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: eighties Schwarzenegger nowadays who cares no. But if we're like 1066 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: taking the time work back to the eighties, I was 1067 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: Conan the Barbarian, the original Terminator, all deal, total recall. Yeah, 1068 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: that's all pretty great. Um. I'm a huge first Blood 1069 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: fan and Rocky fan. Yeah, this was tough not to 1070 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: go with Stallone, although he made some really bad movies, 1071 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: um like Tango Assassin, Tango in Cash and uh the 1072 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Dolly Parton one about when he's a country singer. Oh, 1073 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Stone, Ryan Stone, Um, Cobra Like wait, wait, wait, 1074 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: those are awful movies. What what you didn't like Cobra? 1075 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: How did you? Yes? Huh? Not for me? It must 1076 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: have been the age difference. Yeah, so I'm gonna go 1077 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Arnie too. Okay, how about that? There you go. Uh. 1078 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: If you want to ask Chuck or me questions, you 1079 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: can go onto Facebook. 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