Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to another edition of All the Smoke Day
Speaker 2: two in La. Anyway, man, we got a special guest today,
Speaker 2: three times Super Bowl champ just all around good dude,
Speaker 2: Julian Edelman.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: My god, the world needs to know that. Man, you
Speaker 4: had a long night out together.
Speaker 2: We'll get there, get there, We'll get there, We'll get
Speaker 2: you recently played the April Fool's joke and said you
Speaker 2: were coming back to play with Tom again. Obviously a joke,
Speaker 2: but any doubt in your mind that you still want
Speaker 2: to play football.
Speaker 5: No, I mean it was a joke, April Fool's joke
Speaker 5: target market, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know they say they say they say jokes,
Speaker 2: hold hold a little bit of truth.
Speaker 3: Nah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you definitely have competitive juices that are
Speaker 5: always flowing in your in your body as an athlete,
Speaker 5: especially if you think you could still do it. Last year,
Speaker 5: it was tough because it was still very familiar in
Speaker 5: my mind, like the agony of being an older player
Speaker 5: in the league having to do so much more to
Speaker 5: take care of your body. Now it's you know, I've
Speaker 5: had that year to like get over that, and you know,
Speaker 5: now I'm in the mindset where like, all right, my
Speaker 5: body feels kind of good. You know, Hey, yeah, it's
Speaker 5: not hurting like it did in certain ways. I know,
Speaker 5: I'm not putting the same amount of loadage on it.
Speaker 5: I'm thirty five, turn thirty six.
Speaker 3: It's still old. It's it's not to us, I mean
Speaker 3: football football years is I mean what they take. You
Speaker 3: can't you can't.
Speaker 5: You can't even you can't put Brady in the conversation.
Speaker 5: That's like an oxymoron, right, it's how old he's.
Speaker 3: It's different, Yeah, especially to you.
Speaker 5: You're you're out there running routes and and and and
Speaker 5: catch the balls and taking big hits. Yeah, it's I
Speaker 5: mean it's still hard. Blocking, that's very tough. I think
Speaker 5: it's more of the constant grind of like practice, you know,
Speaker 5: cutting and really working on your craft and redlining your
Speaker 5: body so much to get the best for Sunday and
Speaker 5: for the season and for like longevity and staying healthy.
Speaker 5: You have to redline so much that it breaks you down.
Speaker 5: So you know that, That's what I was dealing with.
Speaker 5: So how has retirement between you? It's been good, you know,
Speaker 5: I transitioned to inside the NFL, which streams on Paramount Plus.
Speaker 3: Of course you guys, you.
Speaker 5: Guys know that in Paramount Plus, uh in the family,
Speaker 5: in the family, in the family, which has been good,
Speaker 5: great group of guys, Ray Lewis, Brandon Marshall, Phil Simms, JB.
Speaker 5: You know, can't forget about Mike Irving and to get
Speaker 5: to sit down with legends of the game and talk
Speaker 5: ball and keep your mind in the game. That was
Speaker 5: a great transition for me. It was very new sitting
Speaker 5: in front of the camera and having to learn how
Speaker 5: to you know, perform. I didn't have any prior experience.
Speaker 5: You know, B marsh he was doing it while he
Speaker 5: was playing, Like then he transitioned into it. You know,
Speaker 5: the other guys have been doing TV for ten plus years,
Speaker 5: so you know, there was an intimidation factor. But then
Speaker 5: it got me back to like that rookie year mode
Speaker 5: when you're trying to make a team.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a new craft.
Speaker 5: You got to like get back into that rookie mode
Speaker 5: where you just got to work hard, work on your
Speaker 5: shit and you know, go from there and try to.
Speaker 3: Put it together.
Speaker 2: What are some of the other business things you're in
Speaker 2: because you got your hands all over and I just
Speaker 2: love for fans to always hear you know how versatile
Speaker 2: we are in the business space.
Speaker 5: We're not stuck to any one thing. We're all over
Speaker 5: the place. So what's some stuff we got. I have
Speaker 5: a production company, Coast Productions. We're in development with two shows,
Speaker 5: a scripted UH comedy and then a DOCU series. I
Speaker 5: can't get too far into it. We're producing a podcast
Speaker 5: which I'm doing with Sam Morrel, which will be really fun.
Speaker 5: It's like a historical UH sports podcast, which it's gonna
Speaker 5: be a fun thing to do. We're developing that which
Speaker 5: you guys gotta come on for sure because of some
Speaker 5: basketball stuff. We gotta get your take, you guys. You
Speaker 5: know you guys know how to get the ratings. You
Speaker 5: know you tickets and you know I've been I walk
Speaker 5: into this place. I'm sitting here like, look at this.
Speaker 5: This is professional, this is so. This is d one
Speaker 5: not a kid. We used to say, ma, d one
Speaker 5: because you wanted to go D one school nuts. But
Speaker 5: now that I got that, you know, we got a
Speaker 5: merch company that we still do. We're very heavily involved
Speaker 5: with UH, you know, the Boston market. Still we still
Speaker 5: I still love and support everything Boston does. And then uh,
Speaker 5: you know put me in as a charity charity organization
Speaker 5: that I'm working with that I partnered with, which uh
Speaker 5: you know, we help kids that have incarcerated parents, you know,
Speaker 5: mentor them to get you know, sporting goods, mentoring, you know,
Speaker 5: trying to get these kids, you know, on that right schedule.
Speaker 5: So I love because the cars are dealt with, you know,
Speaker 5: you try to help them get theirs right.
Speaker 2: Love to hear that you touched on something that I
Speaker 2: want your perspective from, because I'm sure it's unique the
Speaker 2: sports fan in Boston and just the culture of sports.
Speaker 2: And I know you're someone that jumps to Celtics games
Speaker 2: and obviously you're run with the Pats and the rings,
Speaker 2: but what is that to people who I've never I'm
Speaker 2: a pro athlete, and I got a taste of it
Speaker 2: going in and out, like the people that will never
Speaker 2: experience what that sports town really means and what it's like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Boston is you know, it's there's no like regular
Speaker 5: seasons like summer, fall, winter, It's Bruins, Celtics, Pats, and.
Speaker 3: You know that's how they go by the seasons, that's.
Speaker 5: How they go by seasons, you know, and Red Sox
Speaker 5: forget the Red Sox, I know, I know, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: I grew up in the Bay Area, so I was
Speaker 5: very accustomed to a pro sport team city area. You know,
Speaker 5: we didn't have big college football. We liked the Niners,
Speaker 5: the Giants, and the Warriors. You know, the Sharks were
Speaker 5: expansion team. So I kind of got that in back
Speaker 5: in like those early nineties, late eighties with some of
Speaker 5: those really good baseball teams, the Niners or the Niners,
Speaker 5: you know. So I got that, and then I moved
Speaker 5: over to Boston and it was like a whole different
Speaker 5: level level. I mean, just the history that each and
Speaker 5: every one of these pro teams have, like they're from
Speaker 5: the start, you know, and then being in a dynasty
Speaker 5: team as with the Patriots, and developing their history right
Speaker 5: and their their footprint and being a part of that,
Speaker 5: like you know, it's been an unbelievable experience.
Speaker 3: These people love their sports. They expect winning.
Speaker 5: I mean, you got like twenty year olds that have
Speaker 5: seen championships and every every single sport, which is ridiculous,
Speaker 5: you know, and now you know it's spoiled, it's reshaken,
Speaker 5: and you know how it goes in sport, but it's
Speaker 5: been an unbelievable place to play. People love it. Blue collar,
Speaker 5: finger in the nails. You know, it's it's been crazy.
Speaker 5: You can run from Ayrea out there if you wanted.
Speaker 5: Muddy Male Walsh, No No, no mayor here.
Speaker 3: Redwood Citywood Area are upbringing, like upbringing.
Speaker 5: Had an older brother seven years older than me, so
Speaker 5: he was always whooped my ass. So I was like
Speaker 5: a real small kid, never took ship from anyone because
Speaker 5: of you know, I had an older brother, wasn't scared
Speaker 5: of no one, and you know that kind of created a.
Speaker 3: Chip on my shoulder.
Speaker 5: Played baseball, basketball and football until high school.
Speaker 3: Was a late bloomer, had to go junior college.
Speaker 5: Went to Juco College of San Mateo to get re
Speaker 5: recruited quarterback. Falled out there, ended up going to Kent
Speaker 5: State after that, played three years there and ended up
Speaker 5: getting into the league.
Speaker 3: You know, I was always the.
Speaker 5: Tough white kid that was more athletic than anyone thought
Speaker 5: that that he was. I was always the only only
Speaker 5: guy there, only white guy there.
Speaker 3: Hanging out with all the fellas.
Speaker 5: You know, So like I grew up around That's what
Speaker 5: I know you know, and then dipping into you know,
Speaker 5: getting in the league and you know, being in that
Speaker 5: kind of locker room and having to reinvent myself and
Speaker 5: become you know, a receiver that was like a whole different,
Speaker 5: you know category. So that's that's what my upbringing was
Speaker 5: that helped me get to where I'm at right now
Speaker 5: because everything that I had to go through as a
Speaker 5: young kid, being a guy that was overlooked, wasn't big enough,
Speaker 5: wasn't fast enough, wasn't strong enough, but was always the best,
Speaker 5: you know what he.
Speaker 3: I was always there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So so having to deal with that, it helped me
Speaker 5: in my future to deal with getting in the league
Speaker 5: and hearing.
Speaker 3: Those same types of things.
Speaker 5: So, you know, I think everything happens for a reason,
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, everything is laid that foundation to
Speaker 5: get me to where I'm at right now.
Speaker 3: You said other sports it wasn't nice, and hope now
Speaker 3: I wasn't nice. I was athletic. I was a football player.
Speaker 3: Can dumb basketball? Huh? Stick dun't No, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 5: I'm Billy Hoyle out here, bro come on, No, you know,
Speaker 5: I played a bunch of aau when I was real
Speaker 5: young because I was just rat athletic h and then
Speaker 5: you know, I was a football player.
Speaker 3: I couldn't play basketball, didn't have the vision.
Speaker 5: I didn't know basketball like I knew football or you know, baseball.
Speaker 5: Baseball had too much add four was too slow. Probably
Speaker 5: should have played. That would have been a lot richer
Speaker 5: and a lot less pain, but lost.
Speaker 4: Lesser, you know. But forty nine is growing up a
Speaker 4: fort Nana fan. You got any forty nine mem because
Speaker 4: I'm sure he wants to hear them.
Speaker 3: The one that sticks out like real hard to me.
Speaker 5: I remember watching, you know, the Niners versus the Packers
Speaker 5: in the division round or the wild card.
Speaker 3: Every year they will beat us. Every year they beat us.
Speaker 5: And then that one year where Steve Young trips in
Speaker 5: his drop hits uh owens over in the middle and
Speaker 5: middle read splits, the safety puts it in there, catches
Speaker 5: it and he was dropping balls off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Game, that's what people don't really crying on the side.
Speaker 5: That's one that you know, I remember that was a
Speaker 5: big win. I don't know, man, I remember a lot
Speaker 5: of like the Jeff Garcia days.
Speaker 3: Where it wasn't very pretty.
Speaker 5: I remember, I remember remember Jerry Rice day, he had
Speaker 5: like twenty three catches.
Speaker 2: We both said the same, you know, we just become
Speaker 2: best friends.
Speaker 5: We did some karate, let's do some.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I remember I was so hurt. It was
Speaker 3: Jerry's day.
Speaker 5: It was Jerry's day. Went off, and then Jerry went
Speaker 5: to the Raiders. And then I love Key became a
Speaker 5: Raiders fan because everyone loved Jerry. And he went for
Speaker 5: a thousand in his forties, he went for a thousand.
Speaker 5: He went to the super Bowl, right, Yeah, they went
Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl rich and they lost to the
Speaker 5: Buccaneers because the center center.
Speaker 3: But that's when Gruden left the Raiders.
Speaker 5: When they went to the championship, lost the Buck or
Speaker 5: the Pats in the tuck game. Then he flipped sides,
Speaker 5: went to Tampa Bay and won it with Tampa Bay
Speaker 5: and beat the Raiders.
Speaker 4: The next year, the good old days. Enough of great segment,
Speaker 4: Enough of this segment. I was just in Jerry's world.
Speaker 4: I don't want to come from Jerry's world.
Speaker 3: To hear this. Forty nine Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 3: hear this. Who are you any role models? Growing up?
Speaker 3: Role models?
Speaker 5: I got to say, my pops, my pops, you know,
Speaker 5: looking back on it. You know, he came grew up,
Speaker 5: you know, in the trailer park without a dad, and.
Speaker 3: He was always the example for me.
Speaker 5: You know, a five to five guy, get home from work,
Speaker 5: take me to go practice baseball, go practice basketball, go
Speaker 5: practice football, didn't matter. We were practicing everything. But he
Speaker 5: was also like a Dudley do right, you know, a
Speaker 5: guy that you know, had his own little business, came
Speaker 5: up from nothing. Uh always just always was a good example.
Speaker 5: You know, he had his fireside back in the day,
Speaker 5: you know, but like to overcome that and do what
Speaker 5: he's done to give me my opportunity and allow me
Speaker 5: to you know, leap frog our family.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: There's always like that, that parent that has to do
Speaker 5: that grind that gives.
Speaker 3: His kid the better opportunity.
Speaker 5: So then you that kid hopefully takes opportunity and makes
Speaker 5: his family even higher. You know what I mean in that,
Speaker 5: in that whatever an opportunity. So, you know, he's been
Speaker 5: a huge influence on me, you know, especially after having
Speaker 5: a kid. You know, I got a five year old
Speaker 5: girl and all those things you heard your dad say
Speaker 5: that You're like shrugging off, Fuck is this guy?
Speaker 3: Know you know, you're young dumb a little kid.
Speaker 5: You know, you're starting to see those when you're interacting
Speaker 5: with your kid and you're like, man, he was actually
Speaker 5: doing the right thing, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 5: to have that, which I don't know where he learned that,
Speaker 5: because he didn't have a pot, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: So like learn on the fly, learn on a fly
Speaker 5: self make guy that that's always been, you know something
Speaker 5: I respect. So you touched on fatherhood obviously now being retired,
Speaker 5: you have more time and you have a daughter.
Speaker 3: What's that like? It's awesome, JACKI you got what four daughters?
Speaker 5: Five? Yeah, the little little girls baby moms. But that's
Speaker 5: another story. Hey, we're all the statistic. Nah, it's been
Speaker 5: awesome because you can actually get in her environment and
Speaker 5: and do the things in her environment. You know as
Speaker 5: a parent that I lived in Boston for twelve years,
Speaker 5: you know, first three four years of her life, and
Speaker 5: I was in New York for the last six months
Speaker 5: doing inside the NFL. She comes out for a week
Speaker 5: a month out here. Yeah, she's out here in LA
Speaker 5: So she come out for a week a month. It's
Speaker 5: not really the same. You know, it's tough, and you
Speaker 5: don't see your kid for three weeks and then you know,
Speaker 5: to have the time where even if you don't have her,
Speaker 5: you could pick her up from school, take her home
Speaker 5: and be in her environment, be around her friends. Like
Speaker 5: that's been like a huge eye opener and an awesome
Speaker 5: experience for me to get to see that, you know,
Speaker 5: taking her to soccer, practice piano, getting her to tennis,
Speaker 5: and you know.
Speaker 3: The whole you know, parent life. It's it's fun.
Speaker 5: And to see the progression from each week when like
Speaker 5: gymnastics or you see here that she struggled on the beam,
Speaker 5: and then the next week like she gets it, you know,
Speaker 5: or like soccer, you know, like scoring goals and stuff
Speaker 5: that stuff like that's pretty fun.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's one of the reason why I
Speaker 2: left early, you know what I mean. I signed a
Speaker 2: three year deal the year I ended up retiring. It
Speaker 2: was for those reasons. I was missing school stuff. I
Speaker 2: was messing sporting activities, birthdays, holidays. It's just like damn,
Speaker 2: like those are the days you can't get back.
Speaker 3: You can't, you know, and it's just crazy.
Speaker 5: You know, I grew up from I grew up in
Speaker 5: like my fam my parents were married. I'm not married,
Speaker 5: you know, with my daughter's mom and like to have
Speaker 5: that that whole. It's it's a it's a hard life,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You got a burden of you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: I please don't take me back. Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 5: So and it's a learning experience, you know, it's a
Speaker 5: learning experience and and it you know, if if you're
Speaker 5: willing to learn, and when you're green and you're growing,
Speaker 5: you know, that's that's always the best, you know, And
Speaker 5: that's what I've been learning as this has been going on.
Speaker 5: So it's been an awesome experience. Yes, there's ups and downs,
Speaker 5: but you know, as long as we're going up.
Speaker 4: True, I think the best thing about us is we
Speaker 4: don't get credit for our hearts and the people we are.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people don't see what we really
Speaker 4: go through, you know, being a father that's not really there, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, it takes a toll on you.
Speaker 4: I think that probably the most I've ever cried and
Speaker 4: my life has been over my kids and not being there.
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, and that distance and
Speaker 4: the friction that it may cause or they may cause
Speaker 4: it's not even really there. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: So that that dealing with that alone and be able
Speaker 4: to still be a father, a provider, protect and all
Speaker 4: that it takes a lot.
Speaker 3: And we don't get credit for that. Hey, you know it.
Speaker 5: It's very tough. Even when you don't like for when
Speaker 5: you don't have your kid, you're you're thinking about your kid,
Speaker 5: you know constantly. You know, whether it's something that you see,
Speaker 5: something comes on the TV.
Speaker 3: There's always something that minds here your kid.
Speaker 5: And so that's you know, and then you have to
Speaker 5: you're being a provider. You got to go out and
Speaker 5: perform and do what you have to do. But then
Speaker 5: you got like a natural guilt or you know, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of things. There's emotions, and that's I guess
Speaker 5: that's parenting, that's life. We're trying to just bottle these
Speaker 5: things up and.
Speaker 3: Figured it out and learn, right. I remember my mama
Speaker 3: used to tell me all the time when I was
Speaker 3: a kid.
Speaker 5: That's when you know your finders, that's when you know.
Speaker 5: That's what he just like didn't even realized the rise off. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that didn't realize that the conversation going.
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember my mama told me. She used
Speaker 4: to tell me all the time. And I used to
Speaker 4: stay out the house for like weeks and don't come home.
Speaker 4: She'll be like, one day, you're gonna have your own kids,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna see while I'm sitting in this room stressing.
Speaker 3: I used to stay going for weeks. Why you're not,
Speaker 3: why you ain't, why you ain't call it check in?
Speaker 3: Nothing like that. She's just stress and missing work and
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, I'm all right, I'm a
Speaker 4: grown man now being away from my kids and know
Speaker 4: how things happen, know my kids traveling and playing sports
Speaker 4: and all this stuff, and I know how dangerous things are.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So now I'm in the world man crazy nowadays, world.
Speaker 2: Transitioning. You said you were a late bloomer. How tall
Speaker 2: and how much would you weigh going into high school?
Speaker 2: I was like four eleven a bus go five buck
Speaker 2: five five?
Speaker 5: Yeah that's little. I was little. I was a little kid.
Speaker 5: So like, so how tall do you know?
Speaker 3: How much you? Wait? Now I'm five ten? Probably? Like
Speaker 3: what was your playing weight? Eight? Okay? Eight?
Speaker 4: So you just just it's just a coincidence you're playing weight,
Speaker 4: but I'm two pounds under.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm saying, so it's just a coincidence you've been
Speaker 4: having all this time off and you're still playing weight.
Speaker 4: Got it here, something to it, something to stay in shape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, La, it's always sunny. Yeah. Facts. Facts. So,
Speaker 3: especially as.
Speaker 5: A retired guy, you know, I'm my body clocks all
Speaker 5: fucked up. Word, you know, you're like right now, Coachilla
Speaker 5: just happened so over like guys not in good did go?
Speaker 5: That was always like all right, we have okay next right,
Speaker 5: you know you got to be a month before that.
Speaker 5: You know you're not working out as much, so you feel,
Speaker 5: you know, it just feels weird. You're you know, because
Speaker 5: you're so we're all creatures a habit, especially as athletes, right,
Speaker 5: and the routine that we've gone through, and if you've
Speaker 5: played you know, ten plus years or something.
Speaker 3: I mean, especially from when you were a.
Speaker 5: Kid, that it's essentially the same go to school, fucking practice.
Speaker 5: Now school was just you know, go to like film
Speaker 5: and installations, which is like a class of its own,
Speaker 5: and then go to the practice. So you know, my
Speaker 5: body's been all crazy. But I was a late bloomer.
Speaker 5: I was full late bloomer. Can we do Coachail next year.
Speaker 3: Come with us. I've never been. This would be awkward.
Speaker 3: I've never been.
Speaker 2: So we just had Taylor Parsons yesterday and he drove
Speaker 2: back the morning of and he was I don't want
Speaker 2: to round him. He had a tough time just getting
Speaker 2: through the morning with us. He's just like bro, I
Speaker 2: had to fucking pull over and the rest stop and
Speaker 2: take a twenty minute power nap as he went hard.
Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah you got you can't drive that. Come on
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 2: The next year, we're going to get a Showtime house
Speaker 2: out there. Next year we're gonnat a Showtime house.
Speaker 5: A Showtime jet, and a Showtime Health helicopter. Yeah, they're
Speaker 5: gonna helicopters here from LA. Should we get the show
Speaker 5: here in LA and then we'll go do the show
Speaker 5: there for two or three days and then we'll go back.
Speaker 2: Lucky the boss Man is here right now. So it's
Speaker 2: just crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right behind the carra Yeah, target market.
Speaker 3: Target market, target market.
Speaker 2: Market, run the car. He said, we're in Hey. So
Speaker 2: when did you feel like was it Sam mateo Kent
Speaker 2: or was it finally when you made it? When you
Speaker 2: feel like you were on the radar as far as
Speaker 2: I know, I could really play this ship. I've always
Speaker 2: known that, but now I have a chance to take
Speaker 2: it to that next level.
Speaker 3: My whole life, whenever I played football, I.
Speaker 5: Felt like I was the best football player in the field,
Speaker 5: and I always had to hear people say, no, there's this,
Speaker 5: Like even until I got to the league, I felt like.
Speaker 3: I'm the best.
Speaker 5: I was always the best football player. I didn't care
Speaker 5: if he was faster this. I felt like I knew
Speaker 5: the game. I knew the vision, you know, how to
Speaker 5: set things up, how to run the open field. I
Speaker 5: knew how to make guys miss and know how to
Speaker 5: break tackles. I knew you know where they were going
Speaker 5: to have to tackle. You splay dB two, TVD be
Speaker 5: in the NFL for a little bit, for like a coffee,
Speaker 5: a coffee, a coffee.
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll get into that. But you know, so.
Speaker 5: I was never always the guy. So I was always
Speaker 5: having to like prove myself and I was always a
Speaker 5: guy that had to like worry about what was on
Speaker 5: my plate at that time in my life.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: It was like that until like five years into six years,
Speaker 5: seven years into my career.
Speaker 3: You know where you constantly have to prove yourself.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if it's like that, or if
Speaker 5: I just think like that, or if I'm just fucked
Speaker 5: up in the head where like I had to like
Speaker 5: train myself or like make myself think things.
Speaker 3: But that's how I've always felt.
Speaker 5: I never always thought like I always thought I could
Speaker 5: play football. And of course you always got a little
Speaker 5: nervous in certain situations, like your first college game or
Speaker 5: your first pro game. But after the first player, after
Speaker 5: you zone in and you've been prepared for the opportunity,
Speaker 5: you know, once the ball hits your hands, you get
Speaker 5: that first hit, you know, you're like, all right, it's football.
Speaker 5: This is the same shit I've been playing my whole
Speaker 5: life that I you know, I know this shit, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I've always felt that way.
Speaker 5: And then like in my career, throughout my career, when
Speaker 5: I like the question you say, when do you feel
Speaker 5: like you were there or something like that, I remember
Speaker 5: anytime I felt like that, I ended up getting hurt
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 3: When I remember, like in.
Speaker 5: Twenty fifteen, we just won our first Super Bowl. In fourteen,
Speaker 5: I was going into that year like I was bawling
Speaker 5: out having career year, and I remember just sitting back like, man,
Speaker 5: this is pretty easy. You know, you're not like easy,
Speaker 5: but like like shit's good, Shit's good, you know. And
Speaker 5: we were like ten and zero end up going breaking
Speaker 5: a foot, you know. Then something happened. So then after that,
Speaker 5: like I became like all right, I can't think like
Speaker 5: that ever, you know. And and that's how I had
Speaker 5: to think. And that's how I had to have my
Speaker 5: mentality in my mindset in order for me to prepare
Speaker 5: my best.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I wasn't always you know, I was an asshole, you know,
Speaker 5: but I had to do that. I had to psych
Speaker 5: myself in a certain mindset. You guys have all played
Speaker 5: with someone like that, you know, And I'm like that,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Where I had to do that to keep my play.
Speaker 2: Up right right, I'm not mad at that, I feel it.
Speaker 2: You started your career early on as a quarterback. How
Speaker 2: would you explain your quarterback and style? Kind of quarterback?
Speaker 3: Were you terrible? I just do that, could run and
Speaker 3: kind of throw. No, you know I was.
Speaker 5: I was a decent college quarterback, duel threat guy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I I look back on my throwing days and my
Speaker 5: quarterback days after playing in the league and learning little
Speaker 5: stupid things here and there, and what you if you
Speaker 5: eliminated certain things, how much better you naturally could be.
Speaker 3: And I just I was like, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Was such a dumb quarterback, Like all security was terrible
Speaker 5: throwing picks. I'd have like four or five plays like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, what's going Oh that's a bad motherfucker.
Speaker 5: But then you have like ten plays where I'm throwing
Speaker 5: the ball interceptions, all security putting the ball down like
Speaker 5: I was running around with that thing toning like a
Speaker 5: loaf of bread. So you know, I had some good plays,
Speaker 5: but I wish I would.
Speaker 2: Have took care of the football more more gratifying, like
Speaker 2: a dope ass run or just a picture perfect pass
Speaker 2: for both for touchdowns.
Speaker 5: For me, it was a passay because everyone expected it
Speaker 5: as the you know, I was that guy where I
Speaker 5: could take off and run on guys. But if I
Speaker 5: got like a good pass, that was that.
Speaker 3: Was my thing. That was him for you, gotcha, you
Speaker 3: always want what you know, you always want to do
Speaker 3: that right.
Speaker 5: The thing that you was you weakness, and that was
Speaker 5: a weak thrower. So I couldn't be, you know, NFL quarterback.
Speaker 5: But the British Columbia Lions did ask me to come
Speaker 5: and play quarterback from.
Speaker 3: See if the CFL after retired.
Speaker 5: No, after my my last year of college. Okay, So
Speaker 5: I was like debating that because I didn't I never
Speaker 5: played receiver.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, man, how'd that transition happened?
Speaker 3: I was just talking to Pops, and.
Speaker 5: You know, He's like, it was like a super incentive
Speaker 5: based contract where it's like one hundred grand, you get
Speaker 5: like another one hundred grand if you start, you lead
Speaker 5: top five, and past you get like fifty grand. I'm
Speaker 5: over here doing the math and I'm like, man, it's
Speaker 5: like two hundred and fifty grand. It's two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5: I'm you know, coming out of college. I'm like, that's
Speaker 5: that's a good money six figures. And then, you know,
Speaker 5: I thought to myself, like I didn't grow up dreaming.
Speaker 3: I wanted to play in the CFL. I run in
Speaker 3: the league. So that was it sounds simple enough. That
Speaker 3: was it.
Speaker 2: Seventh round draft pick thoughts going into the draft.
Speaker 3: Uh, I just wanted to get drafted period. Period.
Speaker 2: I was like a late round guy athlete. So when
Speaker 2: you were in the combine, what did you I didn't
Speaker 2: go to the combin. Okay, yeah, so I had to.
Speaker 2: I had a Pro day. Okay, I wasn't good as
Speaker 2: a receiver or as just whatever the fuck they needed.
Speaker 2: So I can kick too.
Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, I did receiver drills. The Steelers made me
Speaker 5: do like dB drills, like safety drills. They made me
Speaker 5: catch punts, kicks, whatever. They made me do a lot
Speaker 5: of things.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It was crazy that the Patriots worked me out like
Speaker 5: three times, because the draft process, you go, you do
Speaker 5: your combine, then you have the pro days, then they
Speaker 5: have private workouts, then they have visits, and then the draft.
Speaker 5: So like I started getting I ran some good times.
Speaker 5: So I started getting a lot of calls for like
Speaker 5: these workouts, you know. And then like the Patriots call
Speaker 5: and they sent out their running backs coach, and I've
Speaker 5: in Fears, funny ass guy, and he he put me
Speaker 5: through some drills running back stuff, and so like then
Speaker 5: I go out and work out for like Chicago, I
Speaker 5: work out for the Miami Dolphins, and then the Patriots
Speaker 5: sent over the receivers coach. And usually teams don't work
Speaker 5: you out two times, and so I do a bunch
Speaker 5: of receiver drills. They and then they leave and I
Speaker 5: go work out for another team, and the Patriots send
Speaker 5: their special teams coordinator Scotti O'Brien, and so he makes
Speaker 5: me catch punts, does all these drills. I'm dropping balls
Speaker 5: left and right because like catching a punt, there's an
Speaker 5: art to it, you know, like and I didn't know
Speaker 5: the technique. You know, if the ball turns over with
Speaker 5: the right footed punter, if you see, you know how
Speaker 5: they turn over, then it's gonna go to your left.
Speaker 3: So you played on your right titty.
Speaker 5: You know, if it doesn't turn over and it stays up,
Speaker 5: it's gonna die and go right the other one, you know,
Speaker 5: and then vice versa for left kickers. And I had
Speaker 5: no clue. I was just over here trying to judge
Speaker 5: punts and if you know that, it is different. So
Speaker 5: I dropped a bunch of punts. I'm sitting there like
Speaker 5: I'm not getting draft by the pay. I thought I
Speaker 5: was gonna be a dolphin and these these jokers can
Speaker 5: pick me up.
Speaker 2: So it was crazy. What was your first introduction to
Speaker 2: that team? I mean, you played. You said you had
Speaker 2: a couple of coffee as a dB. When did you
Speaker 2: because Welker was well before you was he still there?
Speaker 3: He was there. I played golf for four years.
Speaker 2: Okay, so when when when did you kind of find
Speaker 2: your spot?
Speaker 3: I had. I had to make myself versatile. Okay.
Speaker 5: My first year I had like thirty six balls or
Speaker 5: forty three balls with playoffs, and Wealker got hurt and
Speaker 5: I had some production, and so like I was thinking,
Speaker 5: the next year, I'm gonna ball out Welk's coming back
Speaker 5: from the ACL and that didn't happen. Welker played, Randy played,
Speaker 5: we traded for Dion Branch and I was kind of
Speaker 5: like trying to find my way. So I was doing
Speaker 5: special teams or turning punts, h covering kicks and doing that,
Speaker 5: making plays in the kicking game to earn myself opportunity
Speaker 5: to stay on the team because they kind of moved on.
Speaker 5: And you know that next year, I had like seven balls.
Speaker 5: Next year, I had like seven balls, and then like
Speaker 5: my fourth year, you know, I competed well in camp
Speaker 5: and I got a lot of time. At the beginning
Speaker 5: of the season, broke a foot, broke a hand, so
Speaker 5: didn't really get going and it wasn't until like the
Speaker 5: next contract. I signed a one year deal After that,
Speaker 5: Welker ended up leaving, going to Denver. I signed a
Speaker 5: one year deal. They wanted a two year. I wanted
Speaker 5: a one year league minimum. And in thirteen and had
Speaker 5: one hundred and five catches for you know, a thousand
Speaker 5: yards when Welker departed. So and then I got paid
Speaker 5: and signed like a four year deal with him again.
Speaker 5: So that's when you know, I kind of got my
Speaker 5: break and my opportunity on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 5: But for the first like three or four years, I
Speaker 5: had to grin and I was like playing DV. It's
Speaker 5: playing fucking special teams, and you know, I loved it.
Speaker 5: You know, I was a teamer and that that's like
Speaker 5: a different player. Like those guys are usually, you know,
Speaker 5: they have to back guys up, you know, for roster spots,
Speaker 5: but they have to be a badass motherfucker on the
Speaker 5: special teams in order to make yourself valuable enough to
Speaker 5: be on a team because there's only fifty three spots, right,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So you know that that
Speaker 5: was my career. I had to like grind and grind
Speaker 5: and battle through injury, you know, and then once you know,
Speaker 5: I got some more opportunity and earned more opportunity.
Speaker 3: That's when you know things went well. I got to
Speaker 3: show you how good was moss Man.
Speaker 2: I was about to motherfucking ask that question.
Speaker 3: He was good? How good was he? And what was
Speaker 3: he like?
Speaker 5: Because he just sounds kind I never got a chance
Speaker 5: to meet him. He just sounds so country. Randy's country.
Speaker 5: He's the best thing about like Randy, Like in practice,
Speaker 5: you'd see these crazy catches, you know, he was just
Speaker 5: like it was so easy to him and one on
Speaker 5: ones like and he had really good judgment skill.
Speaker 3: Was when the ball was in the air, he would
Speaker 3: run and.
Speaker 5: At the last second he would just go boop and
Speaker 5: go because the dbs are waiting for you to put
Speaker 5: your hands out to hit your hands and Randy would
Speaker 5: just he would it looked like he wasn't even going
Speaker 5: and he would just rainbowed in.
Speaker 3: And just keep it and keep moving. Or he would
Speaker 3: just moss dudes.
Speaker 5: But like you know, he had the one handers all
Speaker 5: the time on the sideline. He was always really good
Speaker 5: at that. But it was always the best when Randy.
Speaker 5: Randy would fucking come in on Saturdays, which is like
Speaker 5: walk through day, mental day.
Speaker 3: Day before game. You get you you start a little later.
Speaker 5: Everything's kind of like we're just mentally tuning up, got
Speaker 5: to travel or whatever.
Speaker 3: Meetings. Randy would roll.
Speaker 5: In and every week give us like a breakdown of
Speaker 5: what happened on sixty minutes the night before. He would
Speaker 5: It would be so bunny the way he would say
Speaker 5: shit because he's country as fuck, or he'd be like
Speaker 5: this bitch over here thought he could kill his way,
Speaker 5: like even just and we would sit in our whole
Speaker 5: receiver meeting and Randy would he would tell us like,
Speaker 5: we're supposed to be watching shit, but.
Speaker 3: When you're vet, you know, he runs the meeting.
Speaker 5: And he would sit there and he would tell us
Speaker 5: about it and he'd be it was just so funny,
Speaker 5: and we'd all be dying, our receiver coach. He was
Speaker 5: a rookie at the time. Chad o'sha, he's with the
Speaker 5: Browns defense. Now he's sitting there like, yeah, Randy, can we.
Speaker 3: Get our meetings started?
Speaker 5: But he was fun Like in pre pre practiced lines,
Speaker 5: Randy was always funny, like he would just we would
Speaker 5: line up in lines offense defense. Randy would be over
Speaker 5: on the defensive side making fun of Will Fork the
Speaker 5: whole time. Will Fork's over here making fun of him.
Speaker 5: Bill roll around wagging his damn fucking whistle talking ship
Speaker 5: to Randy, Randy talking shit the Bill like he was
Speaker 5: fun to be around, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean. That's that was Randy, and he
Speaker 3: was a bad dude.
Speaker 2: So you said your first obviously a few years you
Speaker 2: were on the grind. When did you feel like you
Speaker 2: started really developing a relationship with Tom.
Speaker 5: I started to open a relationship probably the second and
Speaker 5: third year. My second and third year, because I found
Speaker 5: out he trained out here in LA and we were
Speaker 5: represented by the same agents and doing sports, and I
Speaker 5: was like, yo, let me know when he's out there,
Speaker 5: so I'll fucking pack up. I'll move to LA and
Speaker 5: train out there until he needs me call me. The
Speaker 5: first year, like one time, packed up middle of anything,
Speaker 5: fucking left everything, went out and threw with them. Called
Speaker 5: me more of the second year, they started calling me,
Speaker 5: you know, regularly, and we started working out and that's
Speaker 5: how we learned each other, you know, because I as
Speaker 5: a receiver, you're so dependent on a position with the quarterback.
Speaker 3: So let's be.
Speaker 5: Honest, you can't you can't burn the hand that feeds you.
Speaker 5: Whatever he says, goes because he's the one who's gonna
Speaker 5: get you the rock. And the more I know what
Speaker 5: he wants me to do while we're doing routes on
Speaker 5: air and he's learning my body language, he's learning how
Speaker 5: I get breaking and out of cuts. The more you know,
Speaker 5: that's when you start learning, guys. And then I already know.
Speaker 5: You know, in the middle of a play, he would
Speaker 5: say middlefield clothes and we run to change my route
Speaker 5: in the middle of the you know, the play. You know,
Speaker 5: then I'm I'm it's training you you know, your your
Speaker 5: your mind, and then you're you're figuring each other out,
Speaker 5: and you know, that's when you know. We we developed
Speaker 5: a chemistry. Was always in the off season. It wasn't
Speaker 5: until I got my opportunity because he had that. He
Speaker 5: had that chemistry. Welker Welcoer was a fucking badass dude. Dude,
Speaker 5: Welk was really good and I learned a lot from
Speaker 5: him because similar you got similar sizes. He was a
Speaker 5: little smaller actually, he was like he was like five eight,
Speaker 5: about eighty three, but he had he had these releases
Speaker 5: and his fast twitch was so insane, where like he
Speaker 5: could do like three or four.
Speaker 3: Little steps in front of like a dB that's.
Speaker 5: Pressed on him because he had such choppy feet, and
Speaker 5: the guy would commit and churned and his hip and
Speaker 5: he he could just go and get by. So his
Speaker 5: routes were really good and I got to learn a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff watching him, you know. So you know,
Speaker 5: but that chemistry that he had with Brady, I had
Speaker 5: to develop that in the offseason and that's when, you know,
Speaker 5: once I got a lot more opportunity. That's why it
Speaker 5: clicked and we were able to keep it going. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he should step right in. You said, the first year
Speaker 5: you got one hundred and five catches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would say, what's he like as a person.
Speaker 2: He's I think obviously starting to come out and talk
Speaker 2: a little a lot more. But the day to day
Speaker 2: time we only get to see that the game time.
Speaker 3: He's one of the boys.
Speaker 5: You know, he's a really cool dude. He's fun to
Speaker 5: be around. He got like dad jokes, you know, like
Speaker 5: he because he's like forty three, you know, so he'd
Speaker 5: be like throw a little joke out or something. You're like,
Speaker 5: all right, that was like funny and two thousand and three, bro,
Speaker 5: you know, so like there's banter always it's shit.
Speaker 3: Soccer.
Speaker 5: He talks, he talks, hell is shit. Yeah, Brady talks shit.
Speaker 5: Brady loves to compete in anything. Right, we go play
Speaker 5: knockout because Brady, you know, golf, Brady's competing ping pong.
Speaker 5: You know, He's gonna do everything he can to win.
Speaker 5: He's not letting up if he's playing this kid swatting him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, there's gonna be a time where Little Jack's
Speaker 5: gonna be able to beat him. It's it's not for
Speaker 5: Brady's breaking his heart, you know, but you know he's
Speaker 5: that's what he is.
Speaker 3: He's a competitive dude.
Speaker 5: And it was always funny because you'd see these young
Speaker 5: ass kids that get in the locker room. And I
Speaker 5: was a young kid when I got in the league.
Speaker 5: He was like thirty three, thirty four, and then he
Speaker 5: played like another twelve. He's still playing fourteen years. So
Speaker 5: like there's like guys that were like zero, not even born,
Speaker 5: playing with the guy that they saw their whole life
Speaker 5: as just a crazy, a freaking god. I mean, he's
Speaker 5: a Michael Jordan of the sport, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You see a kid who's twenty two, twenty three, he's
Speaker 5: been doing that for like the last ten six years
Speaker 5: dealing with these kids. Like so he goes in the
Speaker 5: locker room and he doesn't get to feel a lot
Speaker 5: of the you know with the older teams that you know,
Speaker 5: the we're.
Speaker 3: Boys type ship, you know, because guys.
Speaker 5: Are like this dude's famous, you know, like everyone's he's
Speaker 5: had an order about him. When you walk around him
Speaker 5: with the young guys, like they're like scared to talk
Speaker 5: to him, you know what I mean, but he'll try
Speaker 5: to joke, you know. So it's it's changed, and you've
Speaker 5: seen how it's changed, and he has you know, he'll
Speaker 5: link up with his guys or something, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. But you know, he's he's always very inviting
Speaker 5: to everyone. He's he's like awkwardly nice, but he's definitely
Speaker 5: an assassin when it comes to competing, like in anything.
Speaker 5: That was always the funnest when when like the best
Speaker 5: was always when he fucking ran for a first down.
Speaker 3: Like he would get up so fired up.
Speaker 5: It'd be a six second, three yard game, but it'd
Speaker 5: be like a third and three or something. He would
Speaker 5: get so fired up and he would get in guys faces.
Speaker 5: It's that's when that was fun and like or you
Speaker 5: play the Steelers and there was some shiit talking going on.
Speaker 5: He'll single out someone after he throw a touchdown him
Speaker 5: and go up to what do you say about that?
Speaker 3: Like his touchdown runs wasn't pretty though. No, absolutely, he's
Speaker 3: like a Clydesdale, you know, like Cadillac. The things got
Speaker 3: to get going.
Speaker 5: But it's crazy he's but that's he's a fun guy.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: What was one person I always wanted to know not
Speaker 2: to cut you off? What's Gronk?
Speaker 3: Like? He just looks like a animal.
Speaker 2: He's a big kid, and people forgot it was crazy
Speaker 2: I enough to cut you off. I saw something maybe
Speaker 2: like three weeks ago on early Gronk and how like
Speaker 2: he was a cold People forget how good he was
Speaker 2: when he first got a hot, athletic and strong and
Speaker 2: running over people.
Speaker 3: And dude, Gronk was insane. He looked I've said it
Speaker 3: so many times.
Speaker 5: He looked like an eighth grader playing against second graders
Speaker 5: in the league. Like there was a fire like a
Speaker 5: four year span where you couldn't tackle him, and that's
Speaker 5: why guys started going low at him, you know, and
Speaker 5: then he blew out his knee when they went you
Speaker 5: can't get him down. Guys will be hitting this guy
Speaker 5: and he bouncing off and he was so athletic and
Speaker 5: fast and can make catches like he I think he's
Speaker 5: the best tight end that I've seen, not just you know,
Speaker 5: in this era.
Speaker 3: But I think ever of the greatest.
Speaker 5: And what the what makes him so much different than
Speaker 5: other guys is he was a monster in the run game.
Speaker 3: Great blocker, great blocker, great.
Speaker 5: I mean he he like ended Vanderbosh's career, like he
Speaker 5: hit this guy like and that's not good.
Speaker 3: You don't ever want that.
Speaker 5: But like he was like a little ass kid like
Speaker 5: he was, and this was Vanderbosh.
Speaker 3: He was like one of the baddest dudes.
Speaker 5: I remember that in Detroit and that's when I was like, man,
Speaker 5: this guy's.
Speaker 3: A fucking beast.
Speaker 5: And then you saw him in like Washington where he's
Speaker 5: like dragging people like his early clips are insane. I
Speaker 5: mean he's still I mean, he's uncoverable still because he
Speaker 5: just he's got naturally great hands. He can judge football
Speaker 5: and he's never really covered because he's still big. But
Speaker 5: he's not you know, like those earlier gronk When you
Speaker 5: get older in football, you smart enough got to you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. There's like these little things that
Speaker 5: you would do when you're a young player, probably in
Speaker 5: basketball too, you're like, instead of like yamming on someone,
Speaker 5: you all right.
Speaker 3: We're good for my knees or you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: There's these little calculated things that when you're young you
Speaker 5: just go, and then when you get older, you're like, man,
Speaker 5: that's that's a four week injury.
Speaker 3: That's a four week sprained ankle or knee. If I
Speaker 3: make this. You know you're not thinking that, but you're
Speaker 3: you're like, that's gonna hurt. Definitely a possibility.
Speaker 4: You have the rare opportunity of playing for the same
Speaker 4: coach your whole career. Whole career legendary, the goch Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4: Was it any bad moments in that time?
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say there was bad moments. There was learning moments.
Speaker 5: I mean I learned on how to be great just
Speaker 5: through example of Bill Belichick, you know, and also Tom
Speaker 5: Brady's a lot of the players, but Bill, you know,
Speaker 5: with with his formula on what he thinks is best
Speaker 5: for his football team and how disciplined he stays to
Speaker 5: that formula, like year in and year out.
Speaker 3: It's it's amazing.
Speaker 5: I've never seen like, I haven't seen complacency kick in
Speaker 5: with him on on a lot of factors, you know.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's been it's been a crazy, crazy,
Speaker 5: crazy like moments to even think about. You got to
Speaker 5: play with probably one of the best coaches of all
Speaker 5: time in all sports, you know, I mean this, dude,
Speaker 5: it's nuts. I'm super interested to see how he's gonna
Speaker 5: do going forward in the new league, because this league's changed.
Speaker 5: It's it's it's completely different. It's more like basketball. This spacing,
Speaker 5: you know, and and the playmakers on the outside is
Speaker 5: just changing the game, you know what I mean, freedom.
Speaker 3: And that shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's gonna be it's I'm interested to see
Speaker 5: how uh you know he evolves.
Speaker 4: Do you do a good impersonation? I heard and he
Speaker 4: gives a list something.
Speaker 3: A little Belichick.
Speaker 5: He's like, just demoralize you through like the simplest way
Speaker 5: of saying things. It was with his tones and like
Speaker 5: his actions. He had builtube. It was like low lights
Speaker 5: after practice he would throw on the next day in
Speaker 5: the morning, or something a bunch of shitty fundamental plays
Speaker 5: or something that we would do in practice and like
Speaker 5: if you dropped the ball on the flat or something.
Speaker 5: He would sit there and he would rewind it. And
Speaker 5: this is in front of the whole team, whole team,
Speaker 5: fucking you know, sixty guys regular season with practice squad,
Speaker 5: all one hundred guys because you got coaches and all
Speaker 5: the people upper division there, and he was sitting He
Speaker 5: would rewind it like three or four times, right where
Speaker 5: the drop is, right where the drop is, right where
Speaker 5: the drop is. Then he would fucking he would look
Speaker 5: at like the crowd of the team because it's like
Speaker 5: a pavilion, and he'd be like, you mean to tell
Speaker 5: me you can't make a wide route catch in the
Speaker 5: National fucking Football League. We got kids in Foxborough High
Speaker 5: School that can make this play. And then he would
Speaker 5: have wind it like four more times and then he
Speaker 5: would chime in again he goes like me and fucking
Speaker 5: Ernie can make this play.
Speaker 3: And then he rewind it.
Speaker 5: And then you go back and you assholes can't make that,
Speaker 5: Like that's and it wouldn't be very subtle.
Speaker 3: Right, but you would be just sitting there like if
Speaker 3: it was on you. Oh fuck Jesus, can we stop it?
Speaker 5: Just the embarrassment, like I've just seen three thousand fucking
Speaker 5: guys make this catch in this league, three thousand.
Speaker 3: Like it's just that's how he is. How's the fun Bill?
Speaker 2: I mean you said he was running around talking shit
Speaker 2: to Randy and lines like the shit talking fun side
Speaker 2: because we only get the short answer Bill.
Speaker 3: Bill's fun man. He's a competitor.
Speaker 5: The better you were, the more you could get away
Speaker 5: with them, you know, and especially with the defensive guys.
Speaker 3: He's defensive coach.
Speaker 5: So d guys are always talking shit in the happy
Speaker 5: mood because Bill would be backing them up and call
Speaker 5: it in practice. But like we would be talking shit,
Speaker 5: you know, and you'd be like fuck you in the
Speaker 5: middle of like stretching and stuff, because you kind of
Speaker 5: know we have like a third down period. It's Thursday,
Speaker 5: it's third down, and we've been emphasizing our third and short.
Speaker 5: Both team as a team are like ones versus their ones,
Speaker 5: like that whole you know, they used to call it
Speaker 5: competition period. You're not going against the scout teams, and
Speaker 5: so like we'd always just talk shit to each other,
Speaker 5: and you know, he his the way he makes fun
Speaker 5: of guys is like it's extremely funny, you know, I
Speaker 5: like in demoralizing because he can bring in like facts
Speaker 5: and players like you think you're fucking LT.
Speaker 3: I played with the best, I coached the best, fucking
Speaker 3: like he loved LT. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: There's certain guys he think like he just seen so
Speaker 5: much football where he could just demoralize you with like
Speaker 5: something he says along those lines.
Speaker 3: I love losing to the Giants. Unbelievable season, getting to
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. I wasn't playing that much then.
Speaker 5: That was like my third year in the league when
Speaker 5: we had both the tight ends and we kind of
Speaker 5: that's when the change of like re revolutionized offense when
Speaker 5: we brought in Gronk and Hernandez.
Speaker 3: Gronk was beat up, ended up losing that game. That
Speaker 3: was That was terrible.
Speaker 5: That was That was you know, going in in the
Speaker 5: offseason the next year after a loss, and then you
Speaker 5: know when you get to the super Bowl as a team,
Speaker 5: you lose a lot of guys after the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: because contracts, everyone gets paid. You know, you win it
Speaker 5: or you get to the ball, everyone's getting paid and leaving,
Speaker 5: you know. So then we were in another rebuilding stage
Speaker 5: going into thirteen, which was like a lot of turnover,
Speaker 5: and then fourteen came and then you know, we went
Speaker 5: and won it, and then you know, we kept it
Speaker 5: going for a while, like I went.
Speaker 3: To eight straight, like AFC championship games. It's crazy. We
Speaker 3: talked about it. Eight straight, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So you get your first ring of nine catches one
Speaker 2: O nine. I had another show before I did this,
Speaker 2: and I got the rare opportunity to sit down and
Speaker 2: talked to Marshawn Lynch on that you know, money two
Speaker 2: yards from the goal line to win the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and they decided to throw it, you guys. So he
Speaker 2: told me how he felt and how all the dudes
Speaker 2: in the huddle were stunned. Even Russell Wilson kind of
Speaker 2: hesitated for a second. What did you guys think watching that?
Speaker 2: Like you everyone in the world knew it was going
Speaker 2: to him, and when it didn't, what was your immediate
Speaker 2: thought before even before the interception?
Speaker 5: Put in contexts, we got smoked on that fucking play
Speaker 5: all week in practice, all week in practice because like
Speaker 5: Super Bowl practice week, everyone's like tense, everyone's flying. You know,
Speaker 5: you want to feel good, play good, and so like
Speaker 5: when the defenses out usually we'd be doing things we
Speaker 5: do our work, our side work, and then we get
Speaker 5: in and we want to see it. I want to
Speaker 5: see if the defenses have been studying, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. I want to see where they're at, if
Speaker 5: they're feeling confident. And Josh Boyce was running this little
Speaker 5: rub route like twenty times, smoking us on it, smoking
Speaker 5: us on it. And right when they went to that
Speaker 5: formation we had to like to play. I'm sitting there
Speaker 5: like they gonna fucking throw this thing, you know, and.
Speaker 3: Then it happened.
Speaker 5: I didn't know it was picked, like we couldn't see
Speaker 5: on the sideline, and then he picked it. I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, we just won fucking Super Bowl. What
Speaker 5: the hell they fucking threw it. I'm sitting there like
Speaker 5: money's gonna go in. I'm going through, like, my how
Speaker 5: much time we might potentially have. We might have thirty seconds,
Speaker 5: you know, twenty six seconds? What are our plays? We
Speaker 5: have timeouts? You're going situation football. You're thinking about it,
Speaker 5: and then it happened. You're like, oh my god, thank
Speaker 5: god they threw Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stop, yeah, not stopping in that moment, you ain't stopping.
Speaker 5: More Play of the game Dante high Tower, the play
Speaker 5: before he fucking got him down here. You gotta watch
Speaker 5: the replay, Like he got him down when he was
Speaker 5: down with like an arm and he got Marshawn Lynch
Speaker 5: down with that arm.
Speaker 3: That was a huge play.
Speaker 5: And then you know, obviously Malcolm made that and then
Speaker 5: he made the play. I mean, it was in it
Speaker 5: was in their head.
Speaker 3: I remember that you.
Speaker 5: Gotta beat up, you gotta jam the first guy, and
Speaker 5: you gotta break. And that was the coaching point that
Speaker 5: they were trying to get all week, all week, the
Speaker 5: one time it mattered the most.
Speaker 3: And then boom so got it. That was nuts.
Speaker 4: The flake Gate twenty fifteen NFL spends twenty two men
Speaker 4: to investigate, y'all and suspends Brady for four games in
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: But you look at her trying to get like just
Speaker 2: looking because like I said, I'm a huge football's first
Speaker 2: for me, like I was a football player playing basketball.
Speaker 2: So I love hearing the inside side of this shit
Speaker 2: because I'm a football player at heart.
Speaker 3: You think it was bullshit, yeah, duh, duh.
Speaker 5: I mean there's some bull Like if you look into
Speaker 5: the facts of this whole thing, like both teams balls
Speaker 5: were deflated, Well you know what I mean like there's
Speaker 5: a there's a whole I think it was.
Speaker 3: There was a there was a witch hunt, full witch hunt.
Speaker 3: I mean that was ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not to the point where they went like you
Speaker 5: know what I mean with all the facts and on
Speaker 5: both sides this that as much as everyone wants a
Speaker 5: bitch and a plane, and that pissed me off, honestly.
Speaker 5: Was it Baltimore or something said something to then Indy
Speaker 5: and then Indy you know, the next year we played them,
Speaker 5: I was so pumped up. I was so I was
Speaker 5: too fired up. It actually made me not play as good.
Speaker 5: I mean I balled out. I had some plays, but
Speaker 5: like it took me out of my game because I
Speaker 5: was so fucking med at in the uplist, like trying
Speaker 5: and rain up my guys, Pary.
Speaker 3: This was four, so this was a big super Bowl.
Speaker 5: This was like he just tied Joe, He just tied
Speaker 5: Terry Bradshaw, you know all the quarterbacks that had four,
Speaker 5: you know, and then like this and then he goes
Speaker 5: out the whole next year it's gone, we're good. And
Speaker 5: then we in sixteen, he fucking suspend him. Then we
Speaker 5: go out and win the Super Bowl. Like I don't
Speaker 5: know it was it was it was crazy, man, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what they were doing to receive us have a preference,
Speaker 3: uh no, more of the tack the attack of the ball.
Speaker 5: I like, because like they put those balls through like
Speaker 5: a huge Each one of those balls is like probably
Speaker 5: an hour of man work, like a game ball. With
Speaker 5: how they rub them. They put like the leather conditioners
Speaker 5: on them. They'll get like a bin of grass and
Speaker 5: they'll rub them in the grass. They'll put them in
Speaker 5: the dryer. They want they want to get that that
Speaker 5: like you want the beat up kind of broken in version.
Speaker 5: And that's what like a lot of those like that's
Speaker 5: what most of the quarterbacks do. They're all like very
Speaker 5: close to their guy. So you know, I don't really
Speaker 5: care the lot, but the tack and like the humidity
Speaker 5: outside or or you know that that's all huge, especially
Speaker 5: with what glove you're wearing and everything. I always like
Speaker 5: did a little humid with like a little tack on
Speaker 5: the ball. That was always that was money stickies, get
Speaker 5: the stickies out. Actually wants some money on that game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: y'all down in the locker room. Actually, I met one
Speaker 5: of my friend's house.
Speaker 4: Everybody I'm talking about is in Atlanta, everybody going for
Speaker 4: the Falcons halftime down twenty eight three. What ch'all was
Speaker 4: thinking in the locker room, I'm talking cash? Shit, Still
Speaker 4: this is Tom Brady. I'm still talking cash. In the
Speaker 4: back of my mind, I'm like, damn, I'd have lost
Speaker 4: my money, you know what I'm saying. But I'm talking shit,
Speaker 4: I'm still riding with y'all. What y'all think in the
Speaker 4: locker room.
Speaker 3: I was like, fucking it. I was embarrassed, and I
Speaker 3: was like, man, we can't go out like this. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: That was like my initial to myself kind of moment,
Speaker 5: and then you know, you get into like, all right,
Speaker 5: this is Super Bowl. No one ever gets blown on
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl Denver Broncos back.
Speaker 3: When Niners did, remember or the Chargers. That was the
Speaker 3: Charger score the Chargers, you know, so they're you know,
Speaker 3: as long as we.
Speaker 5: Kind of just play one play at a time, you
Speaker 5: never know, like, let's just kind of focus. The things
Speaker 5: that we did in the first half were like the
Speaker 5: three things that we said we couldn't do. We couldn't
Speaker 5: turn the fucking ball over. You got to score points
Speaker 5: in the red area. We threw a pick six in
Speaker 5: the red area and then you know, you have to
Speaker 5: score touchdowns in the red area. We got you know,
Speaker 5: we got stopped twice when we crossed their forty. So
Speaker 5: like little things like we were driving the ball. It
Speaker 5: wasn't like we weren't doing things. We were getting things done.
Speaker 5: It wasn't as clean as we wanted it, but that's
Speaker 5: how Super Bowls are. This is our second one at
Speaker 5: the time, you know, as this team was going on,
Speaker 5: so you kind of felt that, and you know, then
Speaker 5: one thing led to another. We were just making plays
Speaker 5: and just trying to stick into the game plan, you know,
Speaker 5: and tighten up the stupid mistakes. And once we did that,
Speaker 5: you know, that's when you know we started playing well.
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of that had to do
Speaker 5: is they were running us all week that week, like
Speaker 5: even up to the Super Bowl, we were still doing
Speaker 5: conditioning and Bill will be twirling his fucking his whistle
Speaker 5: and he just yells, put it into bank. While these
Speaker 5: while we're running up we have uphill runs. He's like,
Speaker 5: just put it in the fucking bank. You got to
Speaker 5: deposit the hard work, like you say, shit like that.
Speaker 5: When we were running and we played like one hundred
Speaker 5: and five plays on offense that game, which is a lot.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of plays, and like we tired them out,
Speaker 5: you know, and then we were able to execute when
Speaker 5: we were tired, and all those little things and playing
Speaker 5: one play at a time, and those all led to
Speaker 5: like the most unprobable comeback, which is still crazy if
Speaker 5: you watch it. If you watch it, like I'm sitting there, like, damn,
Speaker 5: we had to do everything right.
Speaker 2: I missed halftime in the third quarter. You guys are
Speaker 2: getting blown out. I took a nap and woke back
Speaker 2: up in in the fourth quarter. No bullshit, I have
Speaker 2: people at the house now, it's just too high. But
Speaker 2: walked back up in the fourth court, like what the
Speaker 2: fuck is going on here? You know, came back and
Speaker 2: went it crazy. Twenty seventeen ACL injury. You told us
Speaker 2: before interesting side. I asked, if you didn't my share
Speaker 2: and this you were trying to obviously come back from
Speaker 2: that injury.
Speaker 3: Uh take it, take it from there. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I ended up getting popped for uh unknown substance of
Speaker 5: unknowned substance, you know, so you know went into that
Speaker 5: I had to got I got suspended for four games
Speaker 5: which in you know, in the grand like looking back
Speaker 5: on it after an ACL at thirty two, wasn't wasn't
Speaker 5: particularly bad to have four extra risks.
Speaker 3: You know, and have more under your belt. But uh,
Speaker 3: you know that that was a shitty situation.
Speaker 5: But in order to keep my routine, I don't even
Speaker 5: know if I'm allowed to share this, but I got
Speaker 5: to go to the Celtics facility and and they took
Speaker 5: me in and let me rehab their use their facility, sitting,
Speaker 5: you know, like keep my routine like a professional athlete.
Speaker 3: And that's when it was. They were in training camp.
Speaker 3: So like I was around there.
Speaker 5: Fellas who was on that team, Kyrie was there, Robert Williams, Tatum,
Speaker 5: Jalen Brown, Tice, uh Mark, Mark Smart sut up, Marcus
Speaker 5: smartt defensive player of the Year. Congrass he's been balling, man,
Speaker 5: he works hard. Yeah, first guard to do it since
Speaker 5: Gary Payton.
Speaker 2: You were in the locker room too, right, I was
Speaker 2: in the locker room locker so yeah, so what's the
Speaker 2: difference because like in the basketball locker room, we're all
Speaker 2: in there talking shit. It's kind of a tighter circle obviously.
Speaker 2: And I asked you before, like your NFL locker rooms
Speaker 2: or defense, offense, special teams, kickers, what's the How did
Speaker 2: you like the basketball environment?
Speaker 5: It was awesome because they were all like they're on
Speaker 5: like their own little schedule, you know, like each guy
Speaker 5: had their shoot time.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It was a little more laid back. It was less intense.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie, but I think that's because they
Speaker 5: have more games and there's more you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's like baseball slow grind, slow grind, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Like ours, Like in our training camp, we
Speaker 5: have ninety guys on there, and you got guys trying
Speaker 5: to make the team, and guys are like walking on
Speaker 5: glass because you got the turk walking around cutting jokers
Speaker 5: left and right.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: So like it was just it was it was different,
Speaker 5: but like it's also a different sport, Like it's more
Speaker 5: individualized where you guys are sitting working on your you know,
Speaker 5: your your craft twenty four to seven, just boom. Everyone
Speaker 5: had their own coach and you know, like it was
Speaker 5: a lot more player driven, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: we're like cattle.
Speaker 3: Just get over here, get a bunch of mother, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like get the big guys over there,
Speaker 3: get the little guys over there, you know what I mean. Right, So,
Speaker 3: like the I thought that having.
Speaker 5: More coaches for more like less guys, I thought that
Speaker 5: was probably an advantage, you know, as far as you got,
Speaker 5: you know, a receiver room. In the beginning of the year,
Speaker 5: we got fucking eighteen guys with one coach. So for
Speaker 5: the younger guys, you know, it's harder for them because
Speaker 5: they're really catering to.
Speaker 3: Like the guys that are going to play, the guys
Speaker 3: you're making.
Speaker 5: The team, right, So, like, those are the little things
Speaker 5: I thought about, you know, when it comes from basketball
Speaker 5: to football, you know, because we don't have like a
Speaker 5: minor league.
Speaker 2: We don't have a G league. So like it's get
Speaker 2: it or you don't. You get in or you're out
Speaker 2: right transitioning. We're almost finished here. You've been a big
Speaker 2: advocate fighting anti semitism. Jack was in an incident about
Speaker 2: a year year and a half ago, and then you
Speaker 2: guys have since talked hung out and actually talked about
Speaker 2: actually doing something in the space together. We definitely did.
Speaker 2: We got to get something going. Tell me, tell the
Speaker 2: world what is what's going on? I mean, we're right
Speaker 2: here at showtime. So I mean, there's no we got
Speaker 2: to make something.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It's basically, you know, we had we were both here
Speaker 4: for Super Bowl, you know, me and him and Esplanas,
Speaker 4: and we all went to dinner and after dinner, me
Speaker 4: and him and us one had a good night.
Speaker 5: Out shipping back on Grandpa's old cough medicine maybe yeah,
Speaker 5: the Devil's letters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had. We had. We had a good time. Man.
Speaker 4: We got a chance to actually talk about a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff, uh, dealing with all that.
Speaker 3: Man and want we came out. We started talking about
Speaker 3: when you do a show together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, do something just like you know, everyone's
Speaker 5: first instinct when something happens to their people their community is.
Speaker 3: To like put a guard up.
Speaker 5: Like instead of putting that guard up, let's put a handout,
Speaker 5: and let's like understand that to understand what's going on,
Speaker 5: you know, just have a conversation because like half the time,
Speaker 5: like when we look at these things, and I don't
Speaker 5: want to generalize or come off as wrong, but like
Speaker 5: both the people are usually like the same, right, you know,
Speaker 5: and there's like a miscommunication just a different color. And
Speaker 5: I think that's something or belief or you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. It's just something's different. But like when it
Speaker 5: comes to like personality trade similar fucking the.
Speaker 3: Same thing, you know what I mean. So like that's
Speaker 3: always been my thing.
Speaker 5: Like let's like try to educate each other on our
Speaker 5: communities because the more we know is that's when you
Speaker 5: start to grow.
Speaker 3: That's it right there. Everything is just a conversation.
Speaker 5: You know, when you're green, you grow when you wripe
Speaker 5: your rot, when you think you're done and you know everything,
Speaker 5: that's when bad shit happens when you when you're green
Speaker 5: and you want to grow on something, and that's when like.
Speaker 2: You learn, right, and when you learn, you grow absolutely
Speaker 2: quick hitters coming down the final stretch. If you could
Speaker 2: pick one receiver that you never got a chance to
Speaker 2: play with.
Speaker 3: Uh, I already know what would that be? Terry Rice?
Speaker 3: Terry right man? Can you imagine him drawing.
Speaker 5: Jerry Rice drawing the coverage and I get to work inside.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, when when we get a cowboy on here.
Speaker 5: Anybody like Mike Girl, all the cowboy questions, I love
Speaker 5: a I would play with Mike.
Speaker 3: I'll play, thank you. That's my guy. To excuse mom
Speaker 3: because I just don't know. Yesterday I had to hear
Speaker 3: U C l A Ship the whole day. Now I
Speaker 3: got to hear Party nine and Ship the whole day.
Speaker 2: Like to rub it in, what would you want to
Speaker 2: play with if you did that, you had never got
Speaker 2: a chance to play with, like all time, all time Montagna, Joe.
Speaker 3: Want get it?
Speaker 5: I mean it would be pretty Uh, I think it'd
Speaker 5: be pretty fun to play with. Like Aaron Rodgers too,
Speaker 5: from the back, I mean from the Bay. He's from
Speaker 5: Butte Chico, Yeah, up north.
Speaker 3: I've been working out with him. Yeah, he's so cool. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's super cool, dude.
Speaker 5: There's some guys that just have it, you know, like
Speaker 5: that that wrist or whatever. This dude is Like it's
Speaker 5: crazy to see how he delivers the football like some
Speaker 5: nonchalantly and it just goes.
Speaker 3: Look at the wrist. What's the difference between him and Brady?
Speaker 3: Ah that you see.
Speaker 5: Brady's the same guy always, I'm saying, like as far
Speaker 5: as quarterbacks, same guy always yea, no matter of the situation. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's gonna get the best out of his players. That's
Speaker 5: all I really know, right, you know, So what I
Speaker 5: mean like and Brady's he's won seven Super Bowls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to play your best, no question about that.
Speaker 5: But you got to play your best football in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And we've seen over the last few years with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: You know, he hasn't been playing his best football. You
Speaker 5: could say how it's you know, the team or this. Hey,
Speaker 5: I'm not reading minds. I'm reading mannerisms, and the mannerisms
Speaker 5: are telling me. Yeah, in the last four years, these
Speaker 5: guys are number one seed or whatever. I don't have
Speaker 5: the actual statumun a crazy stack guy, but they've been
Speaker 5: up there where they should been representing.
Speaker 3: The NFC and they haven't. But who who he has?
Speaker 3: And I want I want to see the Packers do well.
Speaker 3: I want to see it.
Speaker 5: I thought they were going to take it last year
Speaker 5: pre season, last year, I took the Packers to winning,
Speaker 5: but then it just went down this road again and
Speaker 5: then they're now we're losing.
Speaker 3: We're losing.
Speaker 4: Adams Brady shows way more emotion to me running into
Speaker 4: the Niners.
Speaker 3: You guys have not stay that. That's not why I
Speaker 3: was getting with question.
Speaker 4: Next, Brady shows way more are emotion and passion during.
Speaker 3: The game, before the game and all that. You know,
Speaker 3: like just said Aaron Rogers.
Speaker 4: Real nonchalant. I'm gonna go through you know it's his wife. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's his way. It's still great, still great. Top five
Speaker 4: dinner Guess Dead Alive?
Speaker 5: Top five five people you want to have a meal with. Man,
Speaker 5: this is like a tough one. I think Clint Eastwood
Speaker 5: would be pretty cool to have, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Clint east would would be really cool.
Speaker 3: I knew that, Huh. I like blues and ship Muddy Waters.
Speaker 3: I want to hear stories. What was that Cadillac Records?
Speaker 3: Is at the movie? You saw Cadillac Records? No? I
Speaker 3: just I have them on the Spotify. Have you seen
Speaker 3: Cadillac Records? H I have it? I got it playing
Speaker 3: well on the Muddy Waters. I mean I would.
Speaker 5: I would be pretty cool to like talk to Steve's jobs,
Speaker 5: you know, just kind of get his perspective. I heard
Speaker 5: he was like kind of big asshole. I want to
Speaker 5: see I want to see it. I don't want to
Speaker 5: see it, you know, because you know a lot a
Speaker 5: lot of like you know, big leaders are like that,
Speaker 5: you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean a little different. You have to be some type
Speaker 3: of boys. So what am I? That's three yea. For
Speaker 3: Marilyn Monroe, the stories and the conspiracies that.
Speaker 2: I've heard, Yeah, I would want to feel her energy too,
Speaker 2: just like what she's like to be around.
Speaker 5: Like that's Kim Kardashian, that's modern day, that's modern day
Speaker 5: Marlyn Monroe, like if you think about it, like and
Speaker 5: also there's so.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I can't agree with that, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: How she's like the big the biggest thing really in
Speaker 2: Maryland Road. That's a greater comparison. I'm not mad at
Speaker 2: I never looked at that way. Would it makes sense?
Speaker 3: Glam girls? They're glam girls, I'm not saying, but like,
Speaker 3: but get on, uh bout sex type. I mean by
Speaker 3: you know, Joe to my Joe.
Speaker 5: There's a bunch of like, like I said, I want
Speaker 5: to know.
Speaker 3: That's why I want to have the dinner. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I want to. I want to know the conspiracy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, so there's a lot of ships for that's
Speaker 3: for and then the last one this motherfucker said a
Speaker 3: sex tape.
Speaker 5: I think Denzel Washington's pretty cool man because I hear
Speaker 5: his perspective on social media and like like interpersonal communication
Speaker 5: skills and how we're so like different now, and like
Speaker 5: I think he I would learn a lot and like
Speaker 5: be inspired and just like like a pregame speech to life.
Speaker 3: He's the guy, you know what I mean when it
Speaker 3: like comes down to it, like you.
Speaker 5: See a lot of his clips on social where he's
Speaker 5: like like I'd rather enjoy a moment to take a
Speaker 5: picture and have that memory or something you.
Speaker 3: Know, Like I don't know, but like that.
Speaker 2: That's a different I like the group a lot of
Speaker 2: different types. First thing you do when you wake up
Speaker 2: in the last thing you do before you go to
Speaker 2: bed brush your teeth. Oh, fundamentally, you gotta wake up,
Speaker 2: brush your teeth, throw a chaw and get a coffee,
Speaker 2: you know, sit down, get the day going, Get.
Speaker 3: The day going.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask this question because we talked about it.
Speaker 4: I think we kind of talked about who hits you
Speaker 4: the hardest in your career?
Speaker 5: I got uh, I got smoked by ray Lewis coming
Speaker 5: off that. We talked about it, and we do the
Speaker 5: show together on Inside the NFL streaming on Paramount plus
Speaker 5: Shameless Plug. And I've told him like three or four
Speaker 5: times he hit me once where he like knocked me out.
Speaker 5: I think he was kind of he was kind of
Speaker 5: feeling it too, and like I walk over to the
Speaker 5: sideline and it was someone's I thought it was Hilodi
Speaker 5: Nada and he's like, hey, buddy, your sidelines that way.
Speaker 5: So I started walking another way and then he hit
Speaker 5: me so hard. Another time in the playoffs in two
Speaker 5: thousand and nine, I scored a touchdown and he like
Speaker 5: tackled me in the end zone and like need or
Speaker 5: elbowed my ass and I had like j low butt
Speaker 5: cheek full like ten times bigger than my left I
Speaker 5: had like a hematoma and they had to like go
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 3: I couldn't sit down for like a week.
Speaker 5: We got eliminated. I wouldn't have been able to play
Speaker 5: like it was so bad. I couldn't fly home for
Speaker 5: like a week and a half. So thank you Ray
Speaker 5: you you know, keep me in Boston more time. Landry,
Speaker 5: he knocked me out of a game one time. Doct
Speaker 5: Ryan Dowkins. It was when he was on a he
Speaker 5: was on the Denver Broncos for a little bit and
Speaker 5: he knocked me out so hard once. I had a
Speaker 5: star for two weeks in the top right corner of
Speaker 5: my eye got he hit me on a crosser.
Speaker 3: Came down and he was so polite after he hit me,
Speaker 3: and he's like, you right, young fellow. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: am I still on earth?
Speaker 4: I asked question, who would you like to see on
Speaker 4: our show? But before you answer your question, you have
Speaker 4: to help us with your answer.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's kind of a lot of people too. Yes,
Speaker 6: he knows a lot of a lot of goats. We
Speaker 6: gotta get we gotta get Brady on here. You I'll
Speaker 6: take Brady your boss either.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm gonna try one or the other. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: try both both.
Speaker 3: Why not? Why not? Hey, Tom, get on to quit playing.
Speaker 3: We'll come to you. Tom will come to your house.
Speaker 2: Come to your house, man, anywhere you're at, anywhere you're at,
Speaker 2: We're there.
Speaker 3: Baker's bag. Brandy will pull up to he said, he'll
Speaker 3: pull up, will definitely come.
Speaker 2: Yes, well man, we want to thank you man for
Speaker 2: your time today. We have a gift box for you.
Speaker 2: What is this just a little uh goodie box for
Speaker 2: you with some merchant there Oh the smoke. Yeah, go
Speaker 2: ahead check it out real quick.
Speaker 3: And the Julian and Jack show coming soon.
Speaker 2: Jack, Julian got you a nice little sweats fire swet
Speaker 2: Jack has on.
Speaker 3: It's like shattern but with smoke. Basketball, So you're in
Speaker 3: you're in space. Is that the actual smoke? Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: pretty I picked that up. That's Jack. Where can they
Speaker 3: get that at all? The smoke that motherfucking store without
Speaker 3: the motherfucking you give me the white one because I'm
Speaker 3: white guy. Yes, that's tight. Yes, that was Jack's idea.
Speaker 3: I gotta get for this stuff, Miami. That's walking on
Speaker 3: the beach with your daughter. Yeah, you get her little one.
Speaker 2: Yes, a little little little smoke man. That's a wrap
Speaker 2: with Julian Edeman. You can catch this episode on the
Speaker 2: DraftKings Network and all the Smoke Productions YouTube.
Speaker 3: We'll see you guys next week.