1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. 2 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another edition of All the Smoke Day 3 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: two in La. Anyway, man, we got a special guest today, 4 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: three times Super Bowl champ just all around good dude, 5 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Julian Edelman. 6 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 4: My god, the world needs to know that. Man, you 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: had a long night out together. 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: We'll get there, get there, We'll get there, We'll get 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: you recently played the April Fool's joke and said you 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: were coming back to play with Tom again. Obviously a joke, 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: but any doubt in your mind that you still want 13 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: to play football. 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 5: No, I mean it was a joke, April Fool's joke 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 5: target market, you know. 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know they say they say they say jokes, 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: hold hold a little bit of truth. 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: Nah. 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you definitely have competitive juices that are 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 5: always flowing in your in your body as an athlete, 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 5: especially if you think you could still do it. Last year, 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 5: it was tough because it was still very familiar in 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 5: my mind, like the agony of being an older player 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 5: in the league having to do so much more to 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 5: take care of your body. Now it's you know, I've 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 5: had that year to like get over that, and you know, 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: now I'm in the mindset where like, all right, my 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 5: body feels kind of good. You know, Hey, yeah, it's 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 5: not hurting like it did in certain ways. I know, 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: I'm not putting the same amount of loadage on it. 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 5: I'm thirty five, turn thirty six. 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: It's still old. It's it's not to us, I mean 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: football football years is I mean what they take. You 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: can't you can't. 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 5: You can't even you can't put Brady in the conversation. 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 5: That's like an oxymoron, right, it's how old he's. 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: It's different, Yeah, especially to you. 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 5: You're you're out there running routes and and and and 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 5: catch the balls and taking big hits. Yeah, it's I 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 5: mean it's still hard. Blocking, that's very tough. I think 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 5: it's more of the constant grind of like practice, you know, 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: cutting and really working on your craft and redlining your 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 5: body so much to get the best for Sunday and 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 5: for the season and for like longevity and staying healthy. 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 5: You have to redline so much that it breaks you down. 46 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 5: So you know that, That's what I was dealing with. 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 5: So how has retirement between you? It's been good, you know, 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 5: I transitioned to inside the NFL, which streams on Paramount Plus. 49 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: Of course you guys, you. 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: Guys know that in Paramount Plus, uh in the family, 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 5: in the family, in the family, which has been good, 52 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: great group of guys, Ray Lewis, Brandon Marshall, Phil Simms, JB. 53 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 5: You know, can't forget about Mike Irving and to get 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: to sit down with legends of the game and talk 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 5: ball and keep your mind in the game. That was 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 5: a great transition for me. It was very new sitting 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 5: in front of the camera and having to learn how 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 5: to you know, perform. I didn't have any prior experience. 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 5: You know, B marsh he was doing it while he 60 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 5: was playing, Like then he transitioned into it. You know, 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: the other guys have been doing TV for ten plus years, 62 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 5: so you know, there was an intimidation factor. But then 63 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 5: it got me back to like that rookie year mode 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: when you're trying to make a team. 65 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: You know, it's a new craft. 66 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 5: You got to like get back into that rookie mode 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 5: where you just got to work hard, work on your 68 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: shit and you know, go from there and try to. 69 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: Put it together. 70 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: What are some of the other business things you're in 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: because you got your hands all over and I just 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: love for fans to always hear you know how versatile 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: we are in the business space. 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: We're not stuck to any one thing. We're all over 75 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 5: the place. So what's some stuff we got. I have 76 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: a production company, Coast Productions. We're in development with two shows, 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: a scripted UH comedy and then a DOCU series. I 78 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 5: can't get too far into it. We're producing a podcast 79 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: which I'm doing with Sam Morrel, which will be really fun. 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: It's like a historical UH sports podcast, which it's gonna 81 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 5: be a fun thing to do. We're developing that which 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: you guys gotta come on for sure because of some 83 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: basketball stuff. We gotta get your take, you guys. You 84 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 5: know you guys know how to get the ratings. You 85 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 5: know you tickets and you know I've been I walk 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 5: into this place. I'm sitting here like, look at this. 87 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 5: This is professional, this is so. This is d one 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: not a kid. We used to say, ma, d one 89 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: because you wanted to go D one school nuts. But 90 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 5: now that I got that, you know, we got a 91 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 5: merch company that we still do. We're very heavily involved 92 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 5: with UH, you know, the Boston market. Still we still 93 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 5: I still love and support everything Boston does. And then uh, 94 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 5: you know put me in as a charity charity organization 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: that I'm working with that I partnered with, which uh 96 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 5: you know, we help kids that have incarcerated parents, you know, 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 5: mentor them to get you know, sporting goods, mentoring, you know, 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: trying to get these kids, you know, on that right schedule. 99 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 5: So I love because the cars are dealt with, you know, 100 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 5: you try to help them get theirs right. 101 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: Love to hear that you touched on something that I 102 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: want your perspective from, because I'm sure it's unique the 103 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: sports fan in Boston and just the culture of sports. 104 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: And I know you're someone that jumps to Celtics games 105 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 2: and obviously you're run with the Pats and the rings, 106 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: but what is that to people who I've never I'm 107 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: a pro athlete, and I got a taste of it 108 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: going in and out, like the people that will never 109 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: experience what that sports town really means and what it's like. 110 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, Boston is you know, it's there's no like regular 111 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: seasons like summer, fall, winter, It's Bruins, Celtics, Pats, and. 112 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: You know that's how they go by the seasons, that's. 113 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: How they go by seasons, you know, and Red Sox 114 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: forget the Red Sox, I know, I know, uh, you know, 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: I grew up in the Bay Area, so I was 116 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 5: very accustomed to a pro sport team city area. You know, 117 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 5: we didn't have big college football. We liked the Niners, 118 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 5: the Giants, and the Warriors. You know, the Sharks were 119 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 5: expansion team. So I kind of got that in back 120 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 5: in like those early nineties, late eighties with some of 121 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: those really good baseball teams, the Niners or the Niners, 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 5: you know. So I got that, and then I moved 123 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: over to Boston and it was like a whole different 124 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 5: level level. I mean, just the history that each and 125 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 5: every one of these pro teams have, like they're from 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 5: the start, you know, and then being in a dynasty 127 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: team as with the Patriots, and developing their history right 128 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: and their their footprint and being a part of that, 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 5: like you know, it's been an unbelievable experience. 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: These people love their sports. They expect winning. 131 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: I mean, you got like twenty year olds that have 132 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 5: seen championships and every every single sport, which is ridiculous, 133 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 5: you know, and now you know it's spoiled, it's reshaken, 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: and you know how it goes in sport, but it's 135 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 5: been an unbelievable place to play. People love it. Blue collar, 136 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 5: finger in the nails. You know, it's it's been crazy. 137 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: You can run from Ayrea out there if you wanted. 138 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 5: Muddy Male Walsh, No No, no mayor here. 139 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: Redwood Citywood Area are upbringing, like upbringing. 140 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: Had an older brother seven years older than me, so 141 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 5: he was always whooped my ass. So I was like 142 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: a real small kid, never took ship from anyone because 143 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: of you know, I had an older brother, wasn't scared 144 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 5: of no one, and you know that kind of created a. 145 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: Chip on my shoulder. 146 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 5: Played baseball, basketball and football until high school. 147 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: Was a late bloomer, had to go junior college. 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 5: Went to Juco College of San Mateo to get re 149 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 5: recruited quarterback. Falled out there, ended up going to Kent 150 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 5: State after that, played three years there and ended up 151 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 5: getting into the league. 152 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: You know, I was always the. 153 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 5: Tough white kid that was more athletic than anyone thought 154 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 5: that that he was. I was always the only only 155 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 5: guy there, only white guy there. 156 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: Hanging out with all the fellas. 157 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: You know, So like I grew up around That's what 158 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 5: I know you know, and then dipping into you know, 159 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: getting in the league and you know, being in that 160 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: kind of locker room and having to reinvent myself and 161 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: become you know, a receiver that was like a whole different, 162 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 5: you know category. So that's that's what my upbringing was 163 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 5: that helped me get to where I'm at right now 164 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 5: because everything that I had to go through as a 165 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: young kid, being a guy that was overlooked, wasn't big enough, 166 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: wasn't fast enough, wasn't strong enough, but was always the best, 167 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 5: you know what he. 168 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: I was always there, you know what I mean. 169 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 5: So so having to deal with that, it helped me 170 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: in my future to deal with getting in the league 171 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: and hearing. 172 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: Those same types of things. 173 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: So, you know, I think everything happens for a reason, 174 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: and uh, you know, everything is laid that foundation to 175 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 5: get me to where I'm at right now. 176 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: You said other sports it wasn't nice, and hope now 177 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: I wasn't nice. I was athletic. I was a football player. 178 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: Can dumb basketball? Huh? Stick dun't No, absolutely not, absolutely not. 179 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: I'm Billy Hoyle out here, bro come on, No, you know, 180 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 5: I played a bunch of aau when I was real 181 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: young because I was just rat athletic h and then 182 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 5: you know, I was a football player. 183 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: I couldn't play basketball, didn't have the vision. 184 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: I didn't know basketball like I knew football or you know, baseball. 185 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 5: Baseball had too much add four was too slow. Probably 186 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 5: should have played. That would have been a lot richer 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 5: and a lot less pain, but lost. 188 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 4: Lesser, you know. But forty nine is growing up a 189 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: fort Nana fan. You got any forty nine mem because 190 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: I'm sure he wants to hear them. 191 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: The one that sticks out like real hard to me. 192 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 5: I remember watching, you know, the Niners versus the Packers 193 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 5: in the division round or the wild card. 194 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: Every year they will beat us. Every year they beat us. 195 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 5: And then that one year where Steve Young trips in 196 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 5: his drop hits uh owens over in the middle and 197 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 5: middle read splits, the safety puts it in there, catches 198 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 5: it and he was dropping balls off. 199 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 200 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: Game, that's what people don't really crying on the side. 201 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 5: That's one that you know, I remember that was a 202 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 5: big win. I don't know, man, I remember a lot 203 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 5: of like the Jeff Garcia days. 204 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: Where it wasn't very pretty. 205 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 5: I remember, I remember remember Jerry Rice day, he had 206 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 5: like twenty three catches. 207 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: We both said the same, you know, we just become 208 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: best friends. 209 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 5: We did some karate, let's do some. 210 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I remember I was so hurt. It was 211 00:10:59,200 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: Jerry's day. 212 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 5: It was Jerry's day. Went off, and then Jerry went 213 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: to the Raiders. And then I love Key became a 214 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: Raiders fan because everyone loved Jerry. And he went for 215 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: a thousand in his forties, he went for a thousand. 216 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 5: He went to the super Bowl, right, Yeah, they went 217 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl rich and they lost to the 218 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 5: Buccaneers because the center center. 219 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: But that's when Gruden left the Raiders. 220 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 5: When they went to the championship, lost the Buck or 221 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 5: the Pats in the tuck game. Then he flipped sides, 222 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 5: went to Tampa Bay and won it with Tampa Bay 223 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 5: and beat the Raiders. 224 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: The next year, the good old days. Enough of great segment, 225 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: Enough of this segment. I was just in Jerry's world. 226 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: I don't want to come from Jerry's world. 227 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: To hear this. Forty nine Yeah, I don't want to 228 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: hear this. Who are you any role models? Growing up? 229 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: Role models? 230 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 5: I got to say, my pops, my pops, you know, 231 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: looking back on it. You know, he came grew up, 232 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: you know, in the trailer park without a dad, and. 233 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: He was always the example for me. 234 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 5: You know, a five to five guy, get home from work, 235 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 5: take me to go practice baseball, go practice basketball, go 236 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 5: practice football, didn't matter. We were practicing everything. But he 237 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 5: was also like a Dudley do right, you know, a 238 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 5: guy that you know, had his own little business, came 239 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: up from nothing. Uh always just always was a good example. 240 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 5: You know, he had his fireside back in the day, 241 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 5: you know, but like to overcome that and do what 242 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 5: he's done to give me my opportunity and allow me 243 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 5: to you know, leap frog our family. 244 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 245 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 5: There's always like that, that parent that has to do 246 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 5: that grind that gives. 247 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: His kid the better opportunity. 248 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 5: So then you that kid hopefully takes opportunity and makes 249 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: his family even higher. You know what I mean in that, 250 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 5: in that whatever an opportunity. So, you know, he's been 251 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: a huge influence on me, you know, especially after having 252 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 5: a kid. You know, I got a five year old 253 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 5: girl and all those things you heard your dad say 254 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 5: that You're like shrugging off, Fuck is this guy? 255 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: Know you know, you're young dumb a little kid. 256 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 5: You know, you're starting to see those when you're interacting 257 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 5: with your kid and you're like, man, he was actually 258 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 5: doing the right thing, you know what I mean. So 259 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: to have that, which I don't know where he learned that, 260 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 5: because he didn't have a pot, you know what I mean? 261 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 5: So like learn on the fly, learn on a fly 262 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 5: self make guy that that's always been, you know something 263 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 5: I respect. So you touched on fatherhood obviously now being retired, 264 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: you have more time and you have a daughter. 265 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: What's that like? It's awesome, JACKI you got what four daughters? 266 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 5: Five? Yeah, the little little girls baby moms. But that's 267 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: another story. Hey, we're all the statistic. Nah, it's been 268 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 5: awesome because you can actually get in her environment and 269 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 5: and do the things in her environment. You know as 270 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 5: a parent that I lived in Boston for twelve years, 271 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 5: you know, first three four years of her life, and 272 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 5: I was in New York for the last six months 273 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 5: doing inside the NFL. She comes out for a week 274 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: a month out here. Yeah, she's out here in LA 275 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 5: So she come out for a week a month. It's 276 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 5: not really the same. You know, it's tough, and you 277 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 5: don't see your kid for three weeks and then you know, 278 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: to have the time where even if you don't have her, 279 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 5: you could pick her up from school, take her home 280 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: and be in her environment, be around her friends. Like 281 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: that's been like a huge eye opener and an awesome 282 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: experience for me to get to see that, you know, 283 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 5: taking her to soccer, practice piano, getting her to tennis, 284 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: and you know. 285 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: The whole you know, parent life. It's it's fun. 286 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 5: And to see the progression from each week when like 287 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 5: gymnastics or you see here that she struggled on the beam, 288 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 5: and then the next week like she gets it, you know, 289 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: or like soccer, you know, like scoring goals and stuff 290 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 5: that stuff like that's pretty fun. 291 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 292 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's one of the reason why I 293 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: left early, you know what I mean. I signed a 294 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: three year deal the year I ended up retiring. It 295 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: was for those reasons. I was missing school stuff. I 296 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: was messing sporting activities, birthdays, holidays. It's just like damn, 297 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: like those are the days you can't get back. 298 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: You can't, you know, and it's just crazy. 299 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 5: You know, I grew up from I grew up in 300 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: like my fam my parents were married. I'm not married, 301 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 5: you know, with my daughter's mom and like to have 302 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: that that whole. It's it's a it's a hard life, 303 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 304 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: You got a burden of you know what I mean, 305 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: I please don't take me back. Yeah, it's hard. 306 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 5: So and it's a learning experience, you know, it's a 307 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 5: learning experience and and it you know, if if you're 308 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 5: willing to learn, and when you're green and you're growing, 309 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 5: you know, that's that's always the best, you know, And 310 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: that's what I've been learning as this has been going on. 311 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 5: So it's been an awesome experience. Yes, there's ups and downs, 312 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: but you know, as long as we're going up. 313 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: True, I think the best thing about us is we 314 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: don't get credit for our hearts and the people we are. 315 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: Like a lot of people don't see what we really 316 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: go through, you know, being a father that's not really there, you. 317 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: Know what I mean, it takes a toll on you. 318 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: I think that probably the most I've ever cried and 319 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: my life has been over my kids and not being there. 320 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, and that distance and 321 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: the friction that it may cause or they may cause 322 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: it's not even really there. Yeah, you know what I mean, 323 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: So that that dealing with that alone and be able 324 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: to still be a father, a provider, protect and all 325 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: that it takes a lot. 326 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: And we don't get credit for that. Hey, you know it. 327 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: It's very tough. Even when you don't like for when 328 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 5: you don't have your kid, you're you're thinking about your kid, 329 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: you know constantly. You know, whether it's something that you see, 330 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 5: something comes on the TV. 331 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: There's always something that minds here your kid. 332 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 5: And so that's you know, and then you have to 333 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: you're being a provider. You got to go out and 334 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 5: perform and do what you have to do. But then 335 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 5: you got like a natural guilt or you know, there's 336 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 5: a lot of things. There's emotions, and that's I guess 337 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: that's parenting, that's life. We're trying to just bottle these 338 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 5: things up and. 339 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: Figured it out and learn, right. I remember my mama 340 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: used to tell me all the time when I was 341 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: a kid. 342 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: That's when you know your finders, that's when you know. 343 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 5: That's what he just like didn't even realized the rise off. Yeah, 344 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 5: that didn't realize that the conversation going. 345 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: I remember, I remember my mama told me. She used 346 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: to tell me all the time. And I used to 347 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: stay out the house for like weeks and don't come home. 348 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: She'll be like, one day, you're gonna have your own kids, 349 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: and you're gonna see while I'm sitting in this room stressing. 350 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: I used to stay going for weeks. Why you're not, 351 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: why you ain't, why you ain't call it check in? 352 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: Nothing like that. She's just stress and missing work and 353 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: all that. 354 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, I'm all right, I'm a 355 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: grown man now being away from my kids and know 356 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: how things happen, know my kids traveling and playing sports 357 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: and all this stuff, and I know how dangerous things are. 358 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 359 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: So now I'm in the world man crazy nowadays, world. 360 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: Transitioning. You said you were a late bloomer. How tall 361 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: and how much would you weigh going into high school? 362 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: I was like four eleven a bus go five buck 363 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: five five? 364 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 5: Yeah that's little. I was little. I was a little kid. 365 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 5: So like, so how tall do you know? 366 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: How much you? Wait? Now I'm five ten? Probably? Like 367 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: what was your playing weight? Eight? Okay? Eight? 368 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 4: So you just just it's just a coincidence you're playing weight, 369 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: but I'm two pounds under. 370 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: I'm just saying. 371 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm saying, so it's just a coincidence you've been 372 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: having all this time off and you're still playing weight. 373 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: Got it here, something to it, something to stay in shape. 374 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, La, it's always sunny. Yeah. Facts. Facts. So, 375 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: especially as. 376 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 5: A retired guy, you know, I'm my body clocks all 377 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 5: fucked up. Word, you know, you're like right now, Coachilla 378 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 5: just happened so over like guys not in good did go? 379 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 5: That was always like all right, we have okay next right, 380 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 5: you know you got to be a month before that. 381 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 5: You know you're not working out as much, so you feel, 382 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 5: you know, it just feels weird. You're you know, because 383 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: you're so we're all creatures a habit, especially as athletes, right, 384 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: and the routine that we've gone through, and if you've 385 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: played you know, ten plus years or something. 386 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: I mean, especially from when you were a. 387 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: Kid, that it's essentially the same go to school, fucking practice. 388 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 5: Now school was just you know, go to like film 389 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: and installations, which is like a class of its own, 390 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 5: and then go to the practice. So you know, my 391 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 5: body's been all crazy. But I was a late bloomer. 392 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 5: I was full late bloomer. Can we do Coachail next year. 393 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: Come with us. I've never been. This would be awkward. 394 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: I've never been. 395 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: So we just had Taylor Parsons yesterday and he drove 396 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: back the morning of and he was I don't want 397 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: to round him. He had a tough time just getting 398 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: through the morning with us. He's just like bro, I 399 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: had to fucking pull over and the rest stop and 400 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: take a twenty minute power nap as he went hard. 401 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah you got you can't drive that. Come on 402 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: first time. 403 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: The next year, we're going to get a Showtime house 404 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: out there. Next year we're gonnat a Showtime house. 405 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 5: A Showtime jet, and a Showtime Health helicopter. Yeah, they're 406 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 5: gonna helicopters here from LA. Should we get the show 407 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 5: here in LA and then we'll go do the show 408 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: there for two or three days and then we'll go back. 409 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: Lucky the boss Man is here right now. So it's 410 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: just crazy. 411 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 412 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: Right behind the carra Yeah, target market. 413 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: Target market, target market. 414 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: Market, run the car. He said, we're in Hey. So 415 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: when did you feel like was it Sam mateo Kent 416 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: or was it finally when you made it? When you 417 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: feel like you were on the radar as far as 418 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: I know, I could really play this ship. I've always 419 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: known that, but now I have a chance to take 420 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: it to that next level. 421 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: My whole life, whenever I played football, I. 422 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 5: Felt like I was the best football player in the field, 423 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 5: and I always had to hear people say, no, there's this, 424 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 5: Like even until I got to the league, I felt like. 425 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm the best. 426 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 5: I was always the best football player. I didn't care 427 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 5: if he was faster this. I felt like I knew 428 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 5: the game. I knew the vision, you know, how to 429 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 5: set things up, how to run the open field. I 430 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 5: knew how to make guys miss and know how to 431 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 5: break tackles. I knew you know where they were going 432 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 5: to have to tackle. You splay dB two, TVD be 433 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 5: in the NFL for a little bit, for like a coffee, 434 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 5: a coffee, a coffee. 435 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll get into that. But you know, so. 436 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 5: I was never always the guy. So I was always 437 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: having to like prove myself and I was always a 438 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 5: guy that had to like worry about what was on 439 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 5: my plate at that time in my life. 440 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: And so. 441 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 5: It was like that until like five years into six years, 442 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 5: seven years into my career. 443 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: You know where you constantly have to prove yourself. 444 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: And I don't know if it's like that, or if 445 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 5: I just think like that, or if I'm just fucked 446 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 5: up in the head where like I had to like 447 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 5: train myself or like make myself think things. 448 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: But that's how I've always felt. 449 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 5: I never always thought like I always thought I could 450 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 5: play football. And of course you always got a little 451 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: nervous in certain situations, like your first college game or 452 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 5: your first pro game. But after the first player, after 453 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 5: you zone in and you've been prepared for the opportunity, 454 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 5: you know, once the ball hits your hands, you get 455 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: that first hit, you know, you're like, all right, it's football. 456 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 5: This is the same shit I've been playing my whole 457 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 5: life that I you know, I know this shit, you 458 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I've always felt that way. 459 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 5: And then like in my career, throughout my career, when 460 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 5: I like the question you say, when do you feel 461 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: like you were there or something like that, I remember 462 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: anytime I felt like that, I ended up getting hurt 463 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 5: or something. 464 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: When I remember, like in. 465 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: Twenty fifteen, we just won our first Super Bowl. In fourteen, 466 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 5: I was going into that year like I was bawling 467 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 5: out having career year, and I remember just sitting back like, man, 468 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 5: this is pretty easy. You know, you're not like easy, 469 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 5: but like like shit's good, Shit's good, you know. And 470 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: we were like ten and zero end up going breaking 471 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 5: a foot, you know. Then something happened. So then after that, 472 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 5: like I became like all right, I can't think like 473 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 5: that ever, you know. And and that's how I had 474 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 5: to think. And that's how I had to have my 475 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 5: mentality in my mindset in order for me to prepare 476 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 5: my best. 477 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 3: You know. 478 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 5: I wasn't always you know, I was an asshole, you know, 479 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: but I had to do that. I had to psych 480 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 5: myself in a certain mindset. You guys have all played 481 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: with someone like that, you know, And I'm like that, 482 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 483 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: Where I had to do that to keep my play. 484 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: Up right right, I'm not mad at that, I feel it. 485 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: You started your career early on as a quarterback. How 486 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: would you explain your quarterback and style? Kind of quarterback? 487 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: Were you terrible? I just do that, could run and 488 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: kind of throw. No, you know I was. 489 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: I was a decent college quarterback, duel threat guy. 490 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: You know. 491 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 5: I I look back on my throwing days and my 492 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 5: quarterback days after playing in the league and learning little 493 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: stupid things here and there, and what you if you 494 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 5: eliminated certain things, how much better you naturally could be. 495 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: And I just I was like, yeah, I. 496 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: Was such a dumb quarterback, Like all security was terrible 497 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: throwing picks. I'd have like four or five plays like, 498 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 5: oh my god, what's going Oh that's a bad motherfucker. 499 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 5: But then you have like ten plays where I'm throwing 500 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 5: the ball interceptions, all security putting the ball down like 501 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 5: I was running around with that thing toning like a 502 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: loaf of bread. So you know, I had some good plays, 503 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 5: but I wish I would. 504 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: Have took care of the football more more gratifying, like 505 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: a dope ass run or just a picture perfect pass 506 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: for both for touchdowns. 507 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: For me, it was a passay because everyone expected it 508 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: as the you know, I was that guy where I 509 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 5: could take off and run on guys. But if I 510 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 5: got like a good pass, that was that. 511 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: Was my thing. That was him for you, gotcha, you 512 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: always want what you know, you always want to do 513 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: that right. 514 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 5: The thing that you was you weakness, and that was 515 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: a weak thrower. So I couldn't be, you know, NFL quarterback. 516 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 5: But the British Columbia Lions did ask me to come 517 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 5: and play quarterback from. 518 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: See if the CFL after retired. 519 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: No, after my my last year of college. Okay, So 520 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 5: I was like debating that because I didn't I never 521 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 5: played receiver. 522 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, man, how'd that transition happened? 523 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: I was just talking to Pops, and. 524 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 5: You know, He's like, it was like a super incentive 525 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 5: based contract where it's like one hundred grand, you get 526 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 5: like another one hundred grand if you start, you lead 527 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: top five, and past you get like fifty grand. I'm 528 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: over here doing the math and I'm like, man, it's 529 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 5: like two hundred and fifty grand. It's two thousand and nine. 530 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 5: I'm you know, coming out of college. I'm like, that's 531 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 5: that's a good money six figures. And then, you know, 532 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: I thought to myself, like I didn't grow up dreaming. 533 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: I wanted to play in the CFL. I run in 534 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: the league. So that was it sounds simple enough. That 535 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: was it. 536 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: Seventh round draft pick thoughts going into the draft. 537 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 3: Uh, I just wanted to get drafted period. Period. 538 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: I was like a late round guy athlete. So when 539 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: you were in the combine, what did you I didn't 540 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: go to the combin. Okay, yeah, so I had to. 541 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: I had a Pro day. Okay, I wasn't good as 542 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: a receiver or as just whatever the fuck they needed. 543 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: So I can kick too. 544 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, I did receiver drills. The Steelers made me 545 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 5: do like dB drills, like safety drills. They made me 546 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 5: catch punts, kicks, whatever. They made me do a lot 547 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 5: of things. 548 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 3: You know. 549 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 5: It was crazy that the Patriots worked me out like 550 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 5: three times, because the draft process, you go, you do 551 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 5: your combine, then you have the pro days, then they 552 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 5: have private workouts, then they have visits, and then the draft. 553 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: So like I started getting I ran some good times. 554 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 5: So I started getting a lot of calls for like 555 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 5: these workouts, you know. And then like the Patriots call 556 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 5: and they sent out their running backs coach, and I've 557 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 5: in Fears, funny ass guy, and he he put me 558 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 5: through some drills running back stuff, and so like then 559 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: I go out and work out for like Chicago, I 560 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 5: work out for the Miami Dolphins, and then the Patriots 561 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 5: sent over the receivers coach. And usually teams don't work 562 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 5: you out two times, and so I do a bunch 563 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: of receiver drills. They and then they leave and I 564 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 5: go work out for another team, and the Patriots send 565 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 5: their special teams coordinator Scotti O'Brien, and so he makes 566 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: me catch punts, does all these drills. I'm dropping balls 567 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 5: left and right because like catching a punt, there's an 568 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 5: art to it, you know, like and I didn't know 569 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 5: the technique. You know, if the ball turns over with 570 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 5: the right footed punter, if you see, you know how 571 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 5: they turn over, then it's gonna go to your left. 572 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 3: So you played on your right titty. 573 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 5: You know, if it doesn't turn over and it stays up, 574 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 5: it's gonna die and go right the other one, you know, 575 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 5: and then vice versa for left kickers. And I had 576 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 5: no clue. I was just over here trying to judge 577 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 5: punts and if you know that, it is different. So 578 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 5: I dropped a bunch of punts. I'm sitting there like 579 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 5: I'm not getting draft by the pay. I thought I 580 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 5: was gonna be a dolphin and these these jokers can 581 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 5: pick me up. 582 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: So it was crazy. What was your first introduction to 583 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: that team? I mean, you played. You said you had 584 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: a couple of coffee as a dB. When did you 585 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: because Welker was well before you was he still there? 586 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: He was there. I played golf for four years. 587 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so when when when did you kind of find 588 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: your spot? 589 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: I had. I had to make myself versatile. Okay. 590 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 5: My first year I had like thirty six balls or 591 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 5: forty three balls with playoffs, and Wealker got hurt and 592 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 5: I had some production, and so like I was thinking, 593 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 5: the next year, I'm gonna ball out Welk's coming back 594 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 5: from the ACL and that didn't happen. Welker played, Randy played, 595 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: we traded for Dion Branch and I was kind of 596 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 5: like trying to find my way. So I was doing 597 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 5: special teams or turning punts, h covering kicks and doing that, 598 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 5: making plays in the kicking game to earn myself opportunity 599 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 5: to stay on the team because they kind of moved on. 600 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 5: And you know that next year, I had like seven balls. 601 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 5: Next year, I had like seven balls, and then like 602 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 5: my fourth year, you know, I competed well in camp 603 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: and I got a lot of time. At the beginning 604 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: of the season, broke a foot, broke a hand, so 605 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 5: didn't really get going and it wasn't until like the 606 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 5: next contract. I signed a one year deal After that, 607 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 5: Welker ended up leaving, going to Denver. I signed a 608 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: one year deal. They wanted a two year. I wanted 609 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 5: a one year league minimum. And in thirteen and had 610 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 5: one hundred and five catches for you know, a thousand 611 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: yards when Welker departed. So and then I got paid 612 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 5: and signed like a four year deal with him again. 613 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 5: So that's when you know, I kind of got my 614 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 5: break and my opportunity on the offensive side of the ball. 615 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: But for the first like three or four years, I 616 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 5: had to grin and I was like playing DV. It's 617 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 5: playing fucking special teams, and you know, I loved it. 618 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 5: You know, I was a teamer and that that's like 619 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 5: a different player. Like those guys are usually, you know, 620 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: they have to back guys up, you know, for roster spots, 621 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 5: but they have to be a badass motherfucker on the 622 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 5: special teams in order to make yourself valuable enough to 623 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 5: be on a team because there's only fifty three spots, right, 624 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So you know that that 625 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 5: was my career. I had to like grind and grind 626 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: and battle through injury, you know, and then once you know, 627 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 5: I got some more opportunity and earned more opportunity. 628 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: That's when you know things went well. I got to 629 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: show you how good was moss Man. 630 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: I was about to motherfucking ask that question. 631 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: He was good? How good was he? And what was 632 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: he like? 633 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 5: Because he just sounds kind I never got a chance 634 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: to meet him. He just sounds so country. Randy's country. 635 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 5: He's the best thing about like Randy, Like in practice, 636 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 5: you'd see these crazy catches, you know, he was just 637 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 5: like it was so easy to him and one on 638 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 5: ones like and he had really good judgment skill. 639 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: Was when the ball was in the air, he would 640 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: run and. 641 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 5: At the last second he would just go boop and 642 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: go because the dbs are waiting for you to put 643 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: your hands out to hit your hands and Randy would 644 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 5: just he would it looked like he wasn't even going 645 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 5: and he would just rainbowed in. 646 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: And just keep it and keep moving. Or he would 647 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: just moss dudes. 648 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 5: But like you know, he had the one handers all 649 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: the time on the sideline. He was always really good 650 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: at that. But it was always the best when Randy. 651 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 5: Randy would fucking come in on Saturdays, which is like 652 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 5: walk through day, mental day. 653 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: Day before game. You get you you start a little later. 654 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 5: Everything's kind of like we're just mentally tuning up, got 655 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 5: to travel or whatever. 656 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: Meetings. Randy would roll. 657 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 5: In and every week give us like a breakdown of 658 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 5: what happened on sixty minutes the night before. He would 659 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: It would be so bunny the way he would say 660 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 5: shit because he's country as fuck, or he'd be like 661 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 5: this bitch over here thought he could kill his way, 662 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 5: like even just and we would sit in our whole 663 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 5: receiver meeting and Randy would he would tell us like, 664 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 5: we're supposed to be watching shit, but. 665 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: When you're vet, you know, he runs the meeting. 666 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 5: And he would sit there and he would tell us 667 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 5: about it and he'd be it was just so funny, 668 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 5: and we'd all be dying, our receiver coach. He was 669 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: a rookie at the time. Chad o'sha, he's with the 670 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 5: Browns defense. Now he's sitting there like, yeah, Randy, can we. 671 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: Get our meetings started? 672 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 5: But he was fun Like in pre pre practiced lines, 673 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 5: Randy was always funny, like he would just we would 674 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 5: line up in lines offense defense. Randy would be over 675 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 5: on the defensive side making fun of Will Fork the 676 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 5: whole time. Will Fork's over here making fun of him. 677 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 5: Bill roll around wagging his damn fucking whistle talking ship 678 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 5: to Randy, Randy talking shit the Bill like he was 679 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 5: fun to be around, you. 680 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. That's that was Randy, and he 681 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: was a bad dude. 682 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: So you said your first obviously a few years you 683 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: were on the grind. When did you feel like you 684 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: started really developing a relationship with Tom. 685 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 5: I started to open a relationship probably the second and 686 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 5: third year. My second and third year, because I found 687 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 5: out he trained out here in LA and we were 688 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 5: represented by the same agents and doing sports, and I 689 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 5: was like, yo, let me know when he's out there, 690 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 5: so I'll fucking pack up. I'll move to LA and 691 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 5: train out there until he needs me call me. The 692 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 5: first year, like one time, packed up middle of anything, 693 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 5: fucking left everything, went out and threw with them. Called 694 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 5: me more of the second year, they started calling me, 695 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 5: you know, regularly, and we started working out and that's 696 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 5: how we learned each other, you know, because I as 697 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 5: a receiver, you're so dependent on a position with the quarterback. 698 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: So let's be. 699 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 5: Honest, you can't you can't burn the hand that feeds you. 700 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 5: Whatever he says, goes because he's the one who's gonna 701 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 5: get you the rock. And the more I know what 702 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 5: he wants me to do while we're doing routes on 703 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 5: air and he's learning my body language, he's learning how 704 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 5: I get breaking and out of cuts. The more you know, 705 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 5: that's when you start learning, guys. And then I already know. 706 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 5: You know, in the middle of a play, he would 707 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 5: say middlefield clothes and we run to change my route 708 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 5: in the middle of the you know, the play. You know, 709 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 5: then I'm I'm it's training you you know, your your 710 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 5: your mind, and then you're you're figuring each other out, 711 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 5: and you know, that's when you know. We we developed 712 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 5: a chemistry. Was always in the off season. It wasn't 713 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 5: until I got my opportunity because he had that. He 714 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 5: had that chemistry. Welker Welcoer was a fucking badass dude. Dude, 715 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 5: Welk was really good and I learned a lot from 716 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 5: him because similar you got similar sizes. He was a 717 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 5: little smaller actually, he was like he was like five eight, 718 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 5: about eighty three, but he had he had these releases 719 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 5: and his fast twitch was so insane, where like he 720 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 5: could do like three or four. 721 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: Little steps in front of like a dB that's. 722 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 5: Pressed on him because he had such choppy feet, and 723 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 5: the guy would commit and churned and his hip and 724 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 5: he he could just go and get by. So his 725 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 5: routes were really good and I got to learn a 726 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 5: lot of stuff watching him, you know. So you know, 727 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 5: but that chemistry that he had with Brady, I had 728 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 5: to develop that in the offseason and that's when, you know, 729 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 5: once I got a lot more opportunity. That's why it 730 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 5: clicked and we were able to keep it going. Yeah, 731 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 5: he should step right in. You said, the first year 732 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 5: you got one hundred and five catches. 733 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would say, what's he like as a person. 734 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: He's I think obviously starting to come out and talk 735 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: a little a lot more. But the day to day 736 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: time we only get to see that the game time. 737 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 3: He's one of the boys. 738 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 5: You know, he's a really cool dude. He's fun to 739 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 5: be around. He got like dad jokes, you know, like 740 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: he because he's like forty three, you know, so he'd 741 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 5: be like throw a little joke out or something. You're like, 742 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 5: all right, that was like funny and two thousand and three, bro, 743 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 5: you know, so like there's banter always it's shit. 744 00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 3: Soccer. 745 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 5: He talks, he talks, hell is shit. Yeah, Brady talks shit. 746 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 5: Brady loves to compete in anything. Right, we go play 747 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 5: knockout because Brady, you know, golf, Brady's competing ping pong. 748 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 5: You know, He's gonna do everything he can to win. 749 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 5: He's not letting up if he's playing this kid swatting him. Yeah, 750 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 5: you know, there's gonna be a time where Little Jack's 751 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 5: gonna be able to beat him. It's it's not for 752 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 5: Brady's breaking his heart, you know, but you know he's 753 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 5: that's what he is. 754 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: He's a competitive dude. 755 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 5: And it was always funny because you'd see these young 756 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 5: ass kids that get in the locker room. And I 757 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 5: was a young kid when I got in the league. 758 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 5: He was like thirty three, thirty four, and then he 759 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 5: played like another twelve. He's still playing fourteen years. So 760 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 5: like there's like guys that were like zero, not even born, 761 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 5: playing with the guy that they saw their whole life 762 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 5: as just a crazy, a freaking god. I mean, he's 763 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 5: a Michael Jordan of the sport, you know what I mean. 764 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 5: You see a kid who's twenty two, twenty three, he's 765 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 5: been doing that for like the last ten six years 766 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 5: dealing with these kids. Like so he goes in the 767 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 5: locker room and he doesn't get to feel a lot 768 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 5: of the you know with the older teams that you know, 769 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 5: the we're. 770 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 3: Boys type ship, you know, because guys. 771 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 5: Are like this dude's famous, you know, like everyone's he's 772 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 5: had an order about him. When you walk around him 773 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 5: with the young guys, like they're like scared to talk 774 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 5: to him, you know what I mean, but he'll try 775 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 5: to joke, you know. So it's it's changed, and you've 776 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 5: seen how it's changed, and he has you know, he'll 777 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 5: link up with his guys or something, you know what 778 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 5: I mean. But you know, he's he's always very inviting 779 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 5: to everyone. He's he's like awkwardly nice, but he's definitely 780 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 5: an assassin when it comes to competing, like in anything. 781 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 5: That was always the funnest when when like the best 782 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 5: was always when he fucking ran for a first down. 783 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: Like he would get up so fired up. 784 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 5: It'd be a six second, three yard game, but it'd 785 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 5: be like a third and three or something. He would 786 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 5: get so fired up and he would get in guys faces. 787 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 5: It's that's when that was fun and like or you 788 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 5: play the Steelers and there was some shiit talking going on. 789 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 5: He'll single out someone after he throw a touchdown him 790 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 5: and go up to what do you say about that? 791 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: Like his touchdown runs wasn't pretty though. No, absolutely, he's 792 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 3: like a Clydesdale, you know, like Cadillac. The things got 793 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 3: to get going. 794 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 5: But it's crazy he's but that's he's a fun guy. 795 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 3: Man. 796 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: What was one person I always wanted to know not 797 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: to cut you off? What's Gronk? 798 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: Like? He just looks like a animal. 799 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 2: He's a big kid, and people forgot it was crazy 800 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: I enough to cut you off. I saw something maybe 801 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: like three weeks ago on early Gronk and how like 802 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: he was a cold People forget how good he was 803 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: when he first got a hot, athletic and strong and 804 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 2: running over people. 805 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 3: And dude, Gronk was insane. He looked I've said it 806 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: so many times. 807 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 5: He looked like an eighth grader playing against second graders 808 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 5: in the league. Like there was a fire like a 809 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 5: four year span where you couldn't tackle him, and that's 810 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 5: why guys started going low at him, you know, and 811 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 5: then he blew out his knee when they went you 812 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 5: can't get him down. Guys will be hitting this guy 813 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 5: and he bouncing off and he was so athletic and 814 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 5: fast and can make catches like he I think he's 815 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 5: the best tight end that I've seen, not just you know, 816 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 5: in this era. 817 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: But I think ever of the greatest. 818 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 5: And what the what makes him so much different than 819 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 5: other guys is he was a monster in the run game. 820 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 3: Great blocker, great blocker, great. 821 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 5: I mean he he like ended Vanderbosh's career, like he 822 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 5: hit this guy like and that's not good. 823 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: You don't ever want that. 824 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 5: But like he was like a little ass kid like 825 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 5: he was, and this was Vanderbosh. 826 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 3: He was like one of the baddest dudes. 827 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 5: I remember that in Detroit and that's when I was like, man, 828 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 5: this guy's. 829 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 3: A fucking beast. 830 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 5: And then you saw him in like Washington where he's 831 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 5: like dragging people like his early clips are insane. I 832 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 5: mean he's still I mean, he's uncoverable still because he 833 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 5: just he's got naturally great hands. He can judge football 834 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: and he's never really covered because he's still big. But 835 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 5: he's not you know, like those earlier gronk When you 836 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 5: get older in football, you smart enough got to you 837 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 5: know what I mean. There's like these little things that 838 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 5: you would do when you're a young player, probably in 839 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 5: basketball too, you're like, instead of like yamming on someone, 840 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 5: you all right. 841 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 3: We're good for my knees or you know what I mean. 842 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 5: There's these little calculated things that when you're young you 843 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 5: just go, and then when you get older, you're like, man, 844 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 5: that's that's a four week injury. 845 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 3: That's a four week sprained ankle or knee. If I 846 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 3: make this. You know you're not thinking that, but you're 847 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: you're like, that's gonna hurt. Definitely a possibility. 848 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: You have the rare opportunity of playing for the same 849 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 4: coach your whole career. Whole career legendary, the goch Bill Belichick. 850 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 4: Was it any bad moments in that time? 851 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say there was bad moments. There was learning moments. 852 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 5: I mean I learned on how to be great just 853 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 5: through example of Bill Belichick, you know, and also Tom 854 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 5: Brady's a lot of the players, but Bill, you know, 855 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 5: with with his formula on what he thinks is best 856 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 5: for his football team and how disciplined he stays to 857 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 5: that formula, like year in and year out. 858 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: It's it's amazing. 859 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 5: I've never seen like, I haven't seen complacency kick in 860 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 5: with him on on a lot of factors, you know. 861 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 5: And you know, it's been it's been a crazy, crazy, 862 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 5: crazy like moments to even think about. You got to 863 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 5: play with probably one of the best coaches of all 864 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 5: time in all sports, you know, I mean this, dude, 865 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 5: it's nuts. I'm super interested to see how he's gonna 866 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 5: do going forward in the new league, because this league's changed. 867 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 5: It's it's it's completely different. It's more like basketball. This spacing, 868 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 5: you know, and and the playmakers on the outside is 869 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 5: just changing the game, you know what I mean, freedom. 870 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 3: And that shit. 871 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's gonna be it's I'm interested to see 872 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 5: how uh you know he evolves. 873 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 4: Do you do a good impersonation? I heard and he 874 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 4: gives a list something. 875 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 3: A little Belichick. 876 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 5: He's like, just demoralize you through like the simplest way 877 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 5: of saying things. It was with his tones and like 878 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 5: his actions. He had builtube. It was like low lights 879 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 5: after practice he would throw on the next day in 880 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 5: the morning, or something a bunch of shitty fundamental plays 881 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 5: or something that we would do in practice and like 882 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 5: if you dropped the ball on the flat or something. 883 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 5: He would sit there and he would rewind it. And 884 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 5: this is in front of the whole team, whole team, 885 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 5: fucking you know, sixty guys regular season with practice squad, 886 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 5: all one hundred guys because you got coaches and all 887 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 5: the people upper division there, and he was sitting He 888 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 5: would rewind it like three or four times, right where 889 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 5: the drop is, right where the drop is, right where 890 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 5: the drop is. Then he would fucking he would look 891 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 5: at like the crowd of the team because it's like 892 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 5: a pavilion, and he'd be like, you mean to tell 893 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 5: me you can't make a wide route catch in the 894 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 5: National fucking Football League. We got kids in Foxborough High 895 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 5: School that can make this play. And then he would 896 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 5: have wind it like four more times and then he 897 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 5: would chime in again he goes like me and fucking 898 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 5: Ernie can make this play. 899 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 3: And then he rewind it. 900 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 5: And then you go back and you assholes can't make that, 901 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 5: Like that's and it wouldn't be very subtle. 902 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 3: Right, but you would be just sitting there like if 903 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 3: it was on you. Oh fuck Jesus, can we stop it? 904 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 5: Just the embarrassment, like I've just seen three thousand fucking 905 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 5: guys make this catch in this league, three thousand. 906 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 3: Like it's just that's how he is. How's the fun Bill? 907 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: I mean you said he was running around talking shit 908 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: to Randy and lines like the shit talking fun side 909 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: because we only get the short answer Bill. 910 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 3: Bill's fun man. He's a competitor. 911 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 5: The better you were, the more you could get away 912 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 5: with them, you know, and especially with the defensive guys. 913 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 3: He's defensive coach. 914 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 5: So d guys are always talking shit in the happy 915 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 5: mood because Bill would be backing them up and call 916 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 5: it in practice. But like we would be talking shit, 917 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 5: you know, and you'd be like fuck you in the 918 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 5: middle of like stretching and stuff, because you kind of 919 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 5: know we have like a third down period. It's Thursday, 920 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 5: it's third down, and we've been emphasizing our third and short. 921 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 5: Both team as a team are like ones versus their ones, 922 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 5: like that whole you know, they used to call it 923 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 5: competition period. You're not going against the scout teams, and 924 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 5: so like we'd always just talk shit to each other, 925 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 5: and you know, he his the way he makes fun 926 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 5: of guys is like it's extremely funny, you know, I 927 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 5: like in demoralizing because he can bring in like facts 928 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 5: and players like you think you're fucking LT. 929 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 3: I played with the best, I coached the best, fucking 930 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 3: like he loved LT. You know what I mean. 931 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 5: There's certain guys he think like he just seen so 932 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 5: much football where he could just demoralize you with like 933 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 5: something he says along those lines. 934 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: I love losing to the Giants. Unbelievable season, getting to 935 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 3: the super Bowl. I wasn't playing that much then. 936 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 5: That was like my third year in the league when 937 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 5: we had both the tight ends and we kind of 938 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 5: that's when the change of like re revolutionized offense when 939 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 5: we brought in Gronk and Hernandez. 940 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 3: Gronk was beat up, ended up losing that game. That 941 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 3: was That was terrible. 942 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 5: That was That was you know, going in in the 943 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 5: offseason the next year after a loss, and then you 944 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 5: know when you get to the super Bowl as a team, 945 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 5: you lose a lot of guys after the Super Bowl 946 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 5: because contracts, everyone gets paid. You know, you win it 947 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 5: or you get to the ball, everyone's getting paid and leaving, 948 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 5: you know. So then we were in another rebuilding stage 949 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 5: going into thirteen, which was like a lot of turnover, 950 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 5: and then fourteen came and then you know, we went 951 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 5: and won it, and then you know, we kept it 952 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 5: going for a while, like I went. 953 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 3: To eight straight, like AFC championship games. It's crazy. We 954 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 3: talked about it. Eight straight, that's crazy. 955 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 2: So you get your first ring of nine catches one 956 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 2: O nine. I had another show before I did this, 957 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 2: and I got the rare opportunity to sit down and 958 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 2: talked to Marshawn Lynch on that you know, money two 959 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 2: yards from the goal line to win the Super Bowl 960 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 2: and they decided to throw it, you guys. So he 961 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: told me how he felt and how all the dudes 962 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 2: in the huddle were stunned. Even Russell Wilson kind of 963 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: hesitated for a second. What did you guys think watching that? 964 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: Like you everyone in the world knew it was going 965 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 2: to him, and when it didn't, what was your immediate 966 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 2: thought before even before the interception? 967 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 5: Put in contexts, we got smoked on that fucking play 968 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 5: all week in practice, all week in practice because like 969 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 5: Super Bowl practice week, everyone's like tense, everyone's flying. You know, 970 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 5: you want to feel good, play good, and so like 971 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 5: when the defenses out usually we'd be doing things we 972 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 5: do our work, our side work, and then we get 973 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 5: in and we want to see it. I want to 974 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 5: see if the defenses have been studying, you know what 975 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 5: I mean. I want to see where they're at, if 976 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 5: they're feeling confident. And Josh Boyce was running this little 977 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 5: rub route like twenty times, smoking us on it, smoking 978 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 5: us on it. And right when they went to that 979 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 5: formation we had to like to play. I'm sitting there 980 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 5: like they gonna fucking throw this thing, you know, and. 981 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 3: Then it happened. 982 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 5: I didn't know it was picked, like we couldn't see 983 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 5: on the sideline, and then he picked it. I'm like, 984 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 5: oh my god, we just won fucking Super Bowl. What 985 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 5: the hell they fucking threw it. I'm sitting there like 986 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 5: money's gonna go in. I'm going through, like, my how 987 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 5: much time we might potentially have. We might have thirty seconds, 988 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 5: you know, twenty six seconds? What are our plays? We 989 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 5: have timeouts? You're going situation football. You're thinking about it, 990 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 5: and then it happened. You're like, oh my god, thank 991 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 5: god they threw Yeah. 992 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, stop, yeah, not stopping in that moment, you ain't stopping. 993 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 5: More Play of the game Dante high Tower, the play 994 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 5: before he fucking got him down here. You gotta watch 995 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,320 Speaker 5: the replay, Like he got him down when he was 996 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 5: down with like an arm and he got Marshawn Lynch 997 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 5: down with that arm. 998 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,479 Speaker 3: That was a huge play. 999 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 5: And then you know, obviously Malcolm made that and then 1000 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 5: he made the play. I mean, it was in it 1001 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 5: was in their head. 1002 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 3: I remember that you. 1003 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 5: Gotta beat up, you gotta jam the first guy, and 1004 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 5: you gotta break. And that was the coaching point that 1005 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 5: they were trying to get all week, all week, the 1006 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 5: one time it mattered the most. 1007 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 3: And then boom so got it. That was nuts. 1008 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 4: The flake Gate twenty fifteen NFL spends twenty two men 1009 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 4: to investigate, y'all and suspends Brady for four games in 1010 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. 1011 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: But you look at her trying to get like just 1012 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 2: looking because like I said, I'm a huge football's first 1013 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 2: for me, like I was a football player playing basketball. 1014 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 2: So I love hearing the inside side of this shit 1015 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 2: because I'm a football player at heart. 1016 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 3: You think it was bullshit, yeah, duh, duh. 1017 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 5: I mean there's some bull Like if you look into 1018 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 5: the facts of this whole thing, like both teams balls 1019 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 5: were deflated, Well you know what I mean like there's 1020 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 5: a there's a whole I think it was. 1021 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: There was a there was a witch hunt, full witch hunt. 1022 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 3: I mean that was ridiculous. 1023 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, not to the point where they went like you 1024 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 5: know what I mean with all the facts and on 1025 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 5: both sides this that as much as everyone wants a 1026 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 5: bitch and a plane, and that pissed me off, honestly. 1027 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 5: Was it Baltimore or something said something to then Indy 1028 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 5: and then Indy you know, the next year we played them, 1029 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 5: I was so pumped up. I was so I was 1030 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 5: too fired up. It actually made me not play as good. 1031 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 5: I mean I balled out. I had some plays, but 1032 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 5: like it took me out of my game because I 1033 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 5: was so fucking med at in the uplist, like trying 1034 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 5: and rain up my guys, Pary. 1035 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 3: This was four, so this was a big super Bowl. 1036 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 5: This was like he just tied Joe, He just tied 1037 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 5: Terry Bradshaw, you know all the quarterbacks that had four, 1038 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 5: you know, and then like this and then he goes 1039 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 5: out the whole next year it's gone, we're good. And 1040 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 5: then we in sixteen, he fucking suspend him. Then we 1041 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 5: go out and win the Super Bowl. Like I don't 1042 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,240 Speaker 5: know it was it was it was crazy, man, I don't. 1043 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 3: Know what they were doing to receive us have a preference, 1044 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 3: uh no, more of the tack the attack of the ball. 1045 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 5: I like, because like they put those balls through like 1046 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 5: a huge Each one of those balls is like probably 1047 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 5: an hour of man work, like a game ball. With 1048 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 5: how they rub them. They put like the leather conditioners 1049 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 5: on them. They'll get like a bin of grass and 1050 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 5: they'll rub them in the grass. They'll put them in 1051 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 5: the dryer. They want they want to get that that 1052 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 5: like you want the beat up kind of broken in version. 1053 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 5: And that's what like a lot of those like that's 1054 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 5: what most of the quarterbacks do. They're all like very 1055 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 5: close to their guy. So you know, I don't really 1056 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 5: care the lot, but the tack and like the humidity 1057 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 5: outside or or you know that that's all huge, especially 1058 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 5: with what glove you're wearing and everything. I always like 1059 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 5: did a little humid with like a little tack on 1060 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 5: the ball. That was always that was money stickies, get 1061 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 5: the stickies out. Actually wants some money on that game. Yeah, 1062 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 5: y'all down in the locker room. Actually, I met one 1063 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 5: of my friend's house. 1064 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 4: Everybody I'm talking about is in Atlanta, everybody going for 1065 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 4: the Falcons halftime down twenty eight three. What ch'all was 1066 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 4: thinking in the locker room, I'm talking cash? Shit, Still 1067 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 4: this is Tom Brady. I'm still talking cash. In the 1068 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 4: back of my mind, I'm like, damn, I'd have lost 1069 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 4: my money, you know what I'm saying. But I'm talking shit, 1070 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 4: I'm still riding with y'all. What y'all think in the 1071 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 4: locker room. 1072 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 3: I was like, fucking it. I was embarrassed, and I 1073 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 3: was like, man, we can't go out like this. It's ridiculous. 1074 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 5: That was like my initial to myself kind of moment, 1075 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 5: and then you know, you get into like, all right, 1076 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 5: this is Super Bowl. No one ever gets blown on 1077 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl Denver Broncos back. 1078 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 3: When Niners did, remember or the Chargers. That was the 1079 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 3: Charger score the Chargers, you know, so they're you know, 1080 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 3: as long as we. 1081 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 5: Kind of just play one play at a time, you 1082 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 5: never know, like, let's just kind of focus. The things 1083 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 5: that we did in the first half were like the 1084 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 5: three things that we said we couldn't do. We couldn't 1085 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 5: turn the fucking ball over. You got to score points 1086 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 5: in the red area. We threw a pick six in 1087 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 5: the red area and then you know, you have to 1088 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 5: score touchdowns in the red area. We got you know, 1089 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 5: we got stopped twice when we crossed their forty. So 1090 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 5: like little things like we were driving the ball. It 1091 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 5: wasn't like we weren't doing things. We were getting things done. 1092 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 5: It wasn't as clean as we wanted it, but that's 1093 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 5: how Super Bowls are. This is our second one at 1094 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 5: the time, you know, as this team was going on, 1095 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 5: so you kind of felt that, and you know, then 1096 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 5: one thing led to another. We were just making plays 1097 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 5: and just trying to stick into the game plan, you know, 1098 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 5: and tighten up the stupid mistakes. And once we did that, 1099 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 5: you know, that's when you know we started playing well. 1100 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 5: And I think a lot of that had to do 1101 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 5: is they were running us all week that week, like 1102 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 5: even up to the Super Bowl, we were still doing 1103 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 5: conditioning and Bill will be twirling his fucking his whistle 1104 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 5: and he just yells, put it into bank. While these 1105 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 5: while we're running up we have uphill runs. He's like, 1106 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 5: just put it in the fucking bank. You got to 1107 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 5: deposit the hard work, like you say, shit like that. 1108 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 5: When we were running and we played like one hundred 1109 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 5: and five plays on offense that game, which is a lot. 1110 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 5: That's a lot of plays, and like we tired them out, 1111 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 5: you know, and then we were able to execute when 1112 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 5: we were tired, and all those little things and playing 1113 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 5: one play at a time, and those all led to 1114 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 5: like the most unprobable comeback, which is still crazy if 1115 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 5: you watch it. If you watch it, like I'm sitting there, like, damn, 1116 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 5: we had to do everything right. 1117 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 2: I missed halftime in the third quarter. You guys are 1118 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 2: getting blown out. I took a nap and woke back 1119 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 2: up in in the fourth quarter. No bullshit, I have 1120 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 2: people at the house now, it's just too high. But 1121 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 2: walked back up in the fourth court, like what the 1122 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 2: fuck is going on here? You know, came back and 1123 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 2: went it crazy. Twenty seventeen ACL injury. You told us 1124 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 2: before interesting side. I asked, if you didn't my share 1125 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 2: and this you were trying to obviously come back from 1126 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,280 Speaker 2: that injury. 1127 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 3: Uh take it, take it from there. Yeah. 1128 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 5: I ended up getting popped for uh unknown substance of 1129 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 5: unknowned substance, you know, so you know went into that 1130 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 5: I had to got I got suspended for four games 1131 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 5: which in you know, in the grand like looking back 1132 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 5: on it after an ACL at thirty two, wasn't wasn't 1133 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 5: particularly bad to have four extra risks. 1134 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 3: You know, and have more under your belt. But uh, 1135 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,760 Speaker 3: you know that that was a shitty situation. 1136 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 5: But in order to keep my routine, I don't even 1137 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 5: know if I'm allowed to share this, but I got 1138 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 5: to go to the Celtics facility and and they took 1139 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 5: me in and let me rehab their use their facility, sitting, 1140 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 5: you know, like keep my routine like a professional athlete. 1141 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,959 Speaker 3: And that's when it was. They were in training camp. 1142 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 3: So like I was around there. 1143 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 5: Fellas who was on that team, Kyrie was there, Robert Williams, Tatum, 1144 00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 5: Jalen Brown, Tice, uh Mark, Mark Smart sut up, Marcus 1145 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 5: smartt defensive player of the Year. Congrass he's been balling, man, 1146 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 5: he works hard. Yeah, first guard to do it since 1147 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 5: Gary Payton. 1148 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 2: You were in the locker room too, right, I was 1149 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 2: in the locker room locker so yeah, so what's the 1150 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 2: difference because like in the basketball locker room, we're all 1151 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 2: in there talking shit. It's kind of a tighter circle obviously. 1152 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 2: And I asked you before, like your NFL locker rooms 1153 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 2: or defense, offense, special teams, kickers, what's the How did 1154 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 2: you like the basketball environment? 1155 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 5: It was awesome because they were all like they're on 1156 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 5: like their own little schedule, you know, like each guy 1157 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 5: had their shoot time. 1158 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 3: You know. 1159 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 5: It was a little more laid back. It was less intense. 1160 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie, but I think that's because they 1161 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 5: have more games and there's more you know what I mean. 1162 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 5: It's like baseball slow grind, slow grind, you know what 1163 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 5: I mean, Like ours, Like in our training camp, we 1164 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 5: have ninety guys on there, and you got guys trying 1165 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 5: to make the team, and guys are like walking on 1166 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 5: glass because you got the turk walking around cutting jokers 1167 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 5: left and right. 1168 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 3: You know. 1169 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 5: So like it was just it was it was different, 1170 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 5: but like it's also a different sport, Like it's more 1171 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 5: individualized where you guys are sitting working on your you know, 1172 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 5: your your craft twenty four to seven, just boom. Everyone 1173 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 5: had their own coach and you know, like it was 1174 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 5: a lot more player driven, Like you know what I mean, 1175 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 5: we're like cattle. 1176 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 3: Just get over here, get a bunch of mother, you 1177 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like get the big guys over there, 1178 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 3: get the little guys over there, you know what I mean. Right, So, 1179 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 3: like the I thought that having. 1180 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 5: More coaches for more like less guys, I thought that 1181 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 5: was probably an advantage, you know, as far as you got, 1182 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 5: you know, a receiver room. In the beginning of the year, 1183 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 5: we got fucking eighteen guys with one coach. So for 1184 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 5: the younger guys, you know, it's harder for them because 1185 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 5: they're really catering to. 1186 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 3: Like the guys that are going to play, the guys 1187 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 3: you're making. 1188 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 5: The team, right, So, like, those are the little things 1189 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 5: I thought about, you know, when it comes from basketball 1190 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 5: to football, you know, because we don't have like a 1191 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 5: minor league. 1192 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 2: We don't have a G league. So like it's get 1193 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 2: it or you don't. You get in or you're out 1194 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 2: right transitioning. We're almost finished here. You've been a big 1195 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 2: advocate fighting anti semitism. Jack was in an incident about 1196 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 2: a year year and a half ago, and then you 1197 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: guys have since talked hung out and actually talked about 1198 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 2: actually doing something in the space together. We definitely did. 1199 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 2: We got to get something going. Tell me, tell the 1200 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 2: world what is what's going on? I mean, we're right 1201 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 2: here at showtime. So I mean, there's no we got 1202 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 2: to make something. 1203 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 3: You know. 1204 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 4: It's basically, you know, we had we were both here 1205 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 4: for Super Bowl, you know, me and him and Esplanas, 1206 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 4: and we all went to dinner and after dinner, me 1207 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 4: and him and us one had a good night. 1208 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 5: Out shipping back on Grandpa's old cough medicine maybe yeah, 1209 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 5: the Devil's letters. 1210 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had. We had. We had a good time. Man. 1211 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 4: We got a chance to actually talk about a lot 1212 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 4: of stuff, uh, dealing with all that. 1213 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,919 Speaker 3: Man and want we came out. We started talking about 1214 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 3: when you do a show together. 1215 00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, do something just like you know, everyone's 1216 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 5: first instinct when something happens to their people their community is. 1217 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 3: To like put a guard up. 1218 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 5: Like instead of putting that guard up, let's put a handout, 1219 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 5: and let's like understand that to understand what's going on, 1220 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 5: you know, just have a conversation because like half the time, 1221 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 5: like when we look at these things, and I don't 1222 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 5: want to generalize or come off as wrong, but like 1223 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 5: both the people are usually like the same, right, you know, 1224 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 5: and there's like a miscommunication just a different color. And 1225 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 5: I think that's something or belief or you know what 1226 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 5: I mean. It's just something's different. But like when it 1227 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 5: comes to like personality trade similar fucking the. 1228 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 3: Same thing, you know what I mean. So like that's 1229 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 3: always been my thing. 1230 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 5: Like let's like try to educate each other on our 1231 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 5: communities because the more we know is that's when you 1232 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 5: start to grow. 1233 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 3: That's it right there. Everything is just a conversation. 1234 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 5: You know, when you're green, you grow when you wripe 1235 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 5: your rot, when you think you're done and you know everything, 1236 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 5: that's when bad shit happens when you when you're green 1237 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 5: and you want to grow on something, and that's when like. 1238 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 2: You learn, right, and when you learn, you grow absolutely 1239 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,439 Speaker 2: quick hitters coming down the final stretch. If you could 1240 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 2: pick one receiver that you never got a chance to 1241 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 2: play with. 1242 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 3: Uh, I already know what would that be? Terry Rice? 1243 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Terry right man? Can you imagine him drawing. 1244 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 5: Jerry Rice drawing the coverage and I get to work inside. 1245 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,479 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, when when we get a cowboy on here. 1246 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 5: Anybody like Mike Girl, all the cowboy questions, I love 1247 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 5: a I would play with Mike. 1248 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 3: I'll play, thank you. That's my guy. To excuse mom 1249 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 3: because I just don't know. Yesterday I had to hear 1250 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 3: U C l A Ship the whole day. Now I 1251 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 3: got to hear Party nine and Ship the whole day. 1252 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Like to rub it in, what would you want to 1253 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 2: play with if you did that, you had never got 1254 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 2: a chance to play with, like all time, all time Montagna, Joe. 1255 01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 3: Want get it? 1256 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,919 Speaker 5: I mean it would be pretty Uh, I think it'd 1257 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 5: be pretty fun to play with. Like Aaron Rodgers too, 1258 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 5: from the back, I mean from the Bay. He's from 1259 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 5: Butte Chico, Yeah, up north. 1260 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 3: I've been working out with him. Yeah, he's so cool. Really, Yeah, 1261 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 3: he's super cool, dude. 1262 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 5: There's some guys that just have it, you know, like 1263 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 5: that that wrist or whatever. This dude is Like it's 1264 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 5: crazy to see how he delivers the football like some 1265 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 5: nonchalantly and it just goes. 1266 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 3: Look at the wrist. What's the difference between him and Brady? 1267 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,919 Speaker 3: Ah that you see. 1268 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 5: Brady's the same guy always, I'm saying, like as far 1269 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 5: as quarterbacks, same guy always yea, no matter of the situation. Yeah, 1270 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 5: he's gonna get the best out of his players. That's 1271 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 5: all I really know, right, you know, So what I 1272 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 5: mean like and Brady's he's won seven Super Bowls. 1273 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to play your best, no question about that. 1274 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 5: But you got to play your best football in the playoffs. 1275 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 5: And we've seen over the last few years with Aaron Rodgers. 1276 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 5: You know, he hasn't been playing his best football. You 1277 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 5: could say how it's you know, the team or this. Hey, 1278 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 5: I'm not reading minds. I'm reading mannerisms, and the mannerisms 1279 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 5: are telling me. Yeah, in the last four years, these 1280 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 5: guys are number one seed or whatever. I don't have 1281 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 5: the actual statumun a crazy stack guy, but they've been 1282 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 5: up there where they should been representing. 1283 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 3: The NFC and they haven't. But who who he has? 1284 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 3: And I want I want to see the Packers do well. 1285 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 3: I want to see it. 1286 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 5: I thought they were going to take it last year 1287 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 5: pre season, last year, I took the Packers to winning, 1288 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 5: but then it just went down this road again and 1289 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 5: then they're now we're losing. 1290 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 3: We're losing. 1291 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 4: Adams Brady shows way more emotion to me running into 1292 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 4: the Niners. 1293 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 3: You guys have not stay that. That's not why I 1294 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 3: was getting with question. 1295 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 4: Next, Brady shows way more are emotion and passion during. 1296 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 3: The game, before the game and all that. You know, 1297 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 3: like just said Aaron Rogers. 1298 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 4: Real nonchalant. I'm gonna go through you know it's his wife. Yeah, 1299 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 4: that's his way. It's still great, still great. Top five 1300 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 4: dinner Guess Dead Alive? 1301 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 5: Top five five people you want to have a meal with. Man, 1302 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 5: this is like a tough one. I think Clint Eastwood 1303 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 5: would be pretty cool to have, you know what I mean? 1304 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 5: Clint east would would be really cool. 1305 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 3: I knew that, Huh. I like blues and ship Muddy Waters. 1306 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 3: I want to hear stories. What was that Cadillac Records? 1307 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 3: Is at the movie? You saw Cadillac Records? No? I 1308 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 3: just I have them on the Spotify. Have you seen 1309 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 3: Cadillac Records? H I have it? I got it playing 1310 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 3: well on the Muddy Waters. I mean I would. 1311 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 5: I would be pretty cool to like talk to Steve's jobs, 1312 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 5: you know, just kind of get his perspective. I heard 1313 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 5: he was like kind of big asshole. I want to 1314 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 5: see I want to see it. I don't want to 1315 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 5: see it, you know, because you know a lot a 1316 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 5: lot of like you know, big leaders are like that, 1317 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 5: you know what I. 1318 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 3: Mean a little different. You have to be some type 1319 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 3: of boys. So what am I? That's three yea. For 1320 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 3: Marilyn Monroe, the stories and the conspiracies that. 1321 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 2: I've heard, Yeah, I would want to feel her energy too, 1322 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 2: just like what she's like to be around. 1323 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 5: Like that's Kim Kardashian, that's modern day, that's modern day 1324 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 5: Marlyn Monroe, like if you think about it, like and 1325 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 5: also there's so. 1326 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I can't agree with that, but go ahead. 1327 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 2: How she's like the big the biggest thing really in 1328 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 2: Maryland Road. That's a greater comparison. I'm not mad at 1329 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 2: I never looked at that way. Would it makes sense? 1330 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 3: Glam girls? They're glam girls, I'm not saying, but like, 1331 01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 3: but get on, uh bout sex type. I mean by 1332 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 3: you know, Joe to my Joe. 1333 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 5: There's a bunch of like, like I said, I want 1334 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 5: to know. 1335 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 3: That's why I want to have the dinner. I don't know, 1336 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 3: but I want to. I want to know the conspiracy. Yeah, 1337 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 3: you know, so there's a lot of ships for that's 1338 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 3: for and then the last one this motherfucker said a 1339 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 3: sex tape. 1340 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 5: I think Denzel Washington's pretty cool man because I hear 1341 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 5: his perspective on social media and like like interpersonal communication 1342 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 5: skills and how we're so like different now, and like 1343 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 5: I think he I would learn a lot and like 1344 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,959 Speaker 5: be inspired and just like like a pregame speech to life. 1345 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 3: He's the guy, you know what I mean when it 1346 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 3: like comes down to it, like you. 1347 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 5: See a lot of his clips on social where he's 1348 01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 5: like like I'd rather enjoy a moment to take a 1349 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 5: picture and have that memory or something you. 1350 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 3: Know, Like I don't know, but like that. 1351 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 2: That's a different I like the group a lot of 1352 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 2: different types. First thing you do when you wake up 1353 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 2: in the last thing you do before you go to 1354 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 2: bed brush your teeth. Oh, fundamentally, you gotta wake up, 1355 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 2: brush your teeth, throw a chaw and get a coffee, 1356 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 2: you know, sit down, get the day going, Get. 1357 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 3: The day going. 1358 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask this question because we talked about it. 1359 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 4: I think we kind of talked about who hits you 1360 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 4: the hardest in your career? 1361 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 5: I got uh, I got smoked by ray Lewis coming 1362 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 5: off that. We talked about it, and we do the 1363 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 5: show together on Inside the NFL streaming on Paramount plus 1364 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 5: Shameless Plug. And I've told him like three or four 1365 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 5: times he hit me once where he like knocked me out. 1366 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 5: I think he was kind of he was kind of 1367 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 5: feeling it too, and like I walk over to the 1368 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 5: sideline and it was someone's I thought it was Hilodi 1369 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 5: Nada and he's like, hey, buddy, your sidelines that way. 1370 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 5: So I started walking another way and then he hit 1371 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 5: me so hard. Another time in the playoffs in two 1372 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 5: thousand and nine, I scored a touchdown and he like 1373 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 5: tackled me in the end zone and like need or 1374 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 5: elbowed my ass and I had like j low butt 1375 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 5: cheek full like ten times bigger than my left I 1376 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 5: had like a hematoma and they had to like go 1377 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 5: in there. 1378 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 3: I couldn't sit down for like a week. 1379 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 5: We got eliminated. I wouldn't have been able to play 1380 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 5: like it was so bad. I couldn't fly home for 1381 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 5: like a week and a half. So thank you Ray 1382 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 5: you you know, keep me in Boston more time. Landry, 1383 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,920 Speaker 5: he knocked me out of a game one time. Doct 1384 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 5: Ryan Dowkins. It was when he was on a he 1385 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 5: was on the Denver Broncos for a little bit and 1386 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 5: he knocked me out so hard once. I had a 1387 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 5: star for two weeks in the top right corner of 1388 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 5: my eye got he hit me on a crosser. 1389 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 3: Came down and he was so polite after he hit me, 1390 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,919 Speaker 3: and he's like, you right, young fellow. I'm like, yeah, 1391 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 3: am I still on earth? 1392 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 4: I asked question, who would you like to see on 1393 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 4: our show? But before you answer your question, you have 1394 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 4: to help us with your answer. 1395 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 6: Oh, it's kind of a lot of people too. Yes, 1396 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 6: he knows a lot of a lot of goats. We 1397 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 6: gotta get we gotta get Brady on here. You I'll 1398 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 6: take Brady your boss either. 1399 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm gonna try one or the other. I'm gonna 1400 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 5: try both both. 1401 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 3: Why not? Why not? Hey, Tom, get on to quit playing. 1402 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 3: We'll come to you. Tom will come to your house. 1403 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 2: Come to your house, man, anywhere you're at, anywhere you're at, 1404 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 2: We're there. 1405 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 3: Baker's bag. Brandy will pull up to he said, he'll 1406 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 3: pull up, will definitely come. 1407 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Yes, well man, we want to thank you man for 1408 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 2: your time today. We have a gift box for you. 1409 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 2: What is this just a little uh goodie box for 1410 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,640 Speaker 2: you with some merchant there Oh the smoke. Yeah, go 1411 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 2: ahead check it out real quick. 1412 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 3: And the Julian and Jack show coming soon. 1413 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 2: Jack, Julian got you a nice little sweats fire swet 1414 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 2: Jack has on. 1415 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 3: It's like shattern but with smoke. Basketball, So you're in 1416 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 3: you're in space. Is that the actual smoke? Yeah, that's 1417 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 3: pretty I picked that up. That's Jack. Where can they 1418 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 3: get that at all? The smoke that motherfucking store without 1419 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 3: the motherfucking you give me the white one because I'm 1420 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 3: white guy. Yes, that's tight. Yes, that was Jack's idea. 1421 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 3: I gotta get for this stuff, Miami. That's walking on 1422 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 3: the beach with your daughter. Yeah, you get her little one. 1423 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: Yes, a little little little smoke man. That's a wrap 1424 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,439 Speaker 2: with Julian Edeman. You can catch this episode on the 1425 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 2: DraftKings Network and all the Smoke Productions YouTube. 1426 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 3: We'll see you guys next week.