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Speaker 2: The Texas Longhorns beat the Arizona State while a sun
Speaker 2: Devils and an OT thriller, a double OT thriller. The
Speaker 2: number five Texas squad to the sixteen point lead in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, miss two field goals in the final
Speaker 2: two minutes of regulation, and still somehow managed to escape
Speaker 2: with the thirty nine thirty one double overtime win over
Speaker 2: the number four seat Arizona State. In the pepot, the
Speaker 2: check a late po o jo Hey, I know, sorry
Speaker 2: as I just texted him congratulations. Try to get him
Speaker 2: on here one of these for the next couple of days,
Speaker 2: so maybe we can uh, we can we can get
Speaker 2: him on there. He's like, they flying back now, so
Speaker 2: or we would have had his ass over. He had
Speaker 2: him on here tonight. But man, this was a game,
Speaker 2: Oh Jo, this is how it's supposed to be. Ain't
Speaker 2: nobody trying to see no double digit? Everybody win him
Speaker 2: by double.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was listening the way it
Speaker 1: started out. I thought it was on the state was
Speaker 1: gonna get blown out.
Speaker 2: Now a fourteen? What was the fourteen? What was the fourteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But the man, they jumped out on top of them
Speaker 1: boy's head. I'm like, oh man, I'm fin the turn
Speaker 1: of channel. I'm from the turn of the channel. And then
Speaker 1: obviously things started to change, things started to move. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with college kickers. Hell, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers. You have
Speaker 1: one job, You do one thing the entirey day of practice.
Speaker 2: You kicked the ball. That's it.
Speaker 1: Excess kicker almost cost them almost called Keith field goals
Speaker 1: that could have seen the wind. Now they did win
Speaker 1: the game, but ain't no telling what what could have happened.
Speaker 1: Ain't I'm telling what could have happened that God damn
Speaker 1: Cam He you say, young bull laugh.
Speaker 2: Ned to run scatter boat scat scatack? Is it scatterb
Speaker 2: because they were they were saying scatable, that's a scapboat.
Speaker 2: I'm confused.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, I'm gonnall him. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call him scat packed. I'm call him scam scam cam
Speaker 1: scat pack.
Speaker 2: And he's nice boy. He now he's a singer too.
Speaker 1: He coming out huh scatib cam scattable, okay, cam scat cam,
Speaker 1: scaped back, scatterbo.
Speaker 2: I know you're probably gonna see this. I know you're
Speaker 2: probably watching the show. Listen. If you don't see it,
Speaker 2: I know my son gonna let you know. For you
Speaker 2: the real deal boy, you and me, he will see
Speaker 2: huh yeah, I think he'll see you.
Speaker 1: Well we have you know you belong you belong you.
Speaker 1: He run the ball like he belonged to. He's supposed
Speaker 1: play for the Ravens of the Browns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be a rare. He's gonna be one
Speaker 2: of the white running back. They don't cople but normally
Speaker 2: would that couple.
Speaker 1: You know, you know he he's gonna be like I mean,
Speaker 1: I give you a good name right here.
Speaker 2: Tell me if you remember this Peyton Hillis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, little Peyton Hellis, don't keep up. Run hard if
Speaker 1: you're getting the where he gets shakey a little bit.
Speaker 1: He got he got a little he got a little
Speaker 1: little move to him.
Speaker 2: Now, well you remember Hillis was in that backfield with
Speaker 2: Darren McFadden and the other kid that went to the
Speaker 2: winter the Cowboys. What's the other guy named? I mean
Speaker 2: they would they were doing it, you matter Fadden and uh,
Speaker 2: what's this? I can't think of the guy's name. What's
Speaker 2: what's the guy's name? God, I know, y'all people talking
Speaker 2: about Toby Gerhart. Uh the old cardinal Stanford Cardinal. What's up?
Speaker 2: He was at Arkansas? Phelix Jones, Jones, Yeah, Derren McFadden,
Speaker 2: Yes all they was in the backfield, yeah, yes, yes, Uh,
Speaker 2: but this is where game is supposed to be. Quinn,
Speaker 2: youres twenty of thirty three thirty three twenty two three
Speaker 2: touchdowns one of the exceptions. Uh, they didn't run the
Speaker 2: ball particularly well. Thirty carries fifty three yards, Golden had
Speaker 2: a big catch, Uh saym for buck forty nine, Helm
Speaker 2: had three for fifty six and uh m oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: I think Arizona State's gonna be kicking himself. They kind
Speaker 2: of I think they kind of let this one go.
Speaker 2: You can't let that guy get over your head in
Speaker 2: that situation, O Joe. That that that touch down, that
Speaker 2: first touched down in ot Oh Jo, you can't, lady,
Speaker 2: you mean that, you just that.
Speaker 1: Should have been the number one rule from the coach.
Speaker 1: Keep everything in front of you, everything, the.
Speaker 2: Number rule, O Joe, the number one rule late in
Speaker 2: the ball game. Nothing cheap, nothing deep, keeping it front
Speaker 2: of eight. Nothing cheap, nothing deep. I don't care if
Speaker 2: he catch it. I don't care if he catches fifty
Speaker 2: yard right in front of me. It's when you try
Speaker 2: to be the hero and get you a cheap yep
Speaker 2: that gets you in trouble. Ain't no way safety you
Speaker 2: the last line of defense. If he's even with you,
Speaker 2: you're wrong, mister rap he Oh Joe, it was thawed
Speaker 2: down with the thirteen. Oh Joe, you cannot give that up.
Speaker 2: You can't. Oh, oh Joe, my heels on the gold line.
Speaker 2: I'm figuring about figure. I think they throw the hairburry,
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I throw the gold line by heels on
Speaker 2: the gold line, knock get down knock get down. You're
Speaker 2: not get maaed r I you cheap job. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't even want to blame
Speaker 1: the coaches. I don't want to blame coaching. As a
Speaker 1: player in that situation, you got to have some type
Speaker 1: of awareness, some type of weardeness and understanding, understand the
Speaker 1: situation that you're in and know you just you can't
Speaker 1: be you can't get beat, not in that situation at all.
Speaker 1: And if if I am, let him make a great play,
Speaker 1: but let me be in position, you don't make the play.
Speaker 1: At least let me be in position and he have
Speaker 1: to make a great play in or to catch that.
Speaker 2: Man. I was like, oh my goodness, oh fourth and thirteen,
Speaker 2: you give up that? Uh. But I think Arizona State
Speaker 2: showed that they belong to Everybody was like, well, they
Speaker 2: didn't belong that weak conference and they didn't do this,
Speaker 2: and this team didn't do that. They played, they gave
Speaker 2: Texas all they could definitely belong they and or oh Joe,
Speaker 2: when you watch Quinn yours what you think you know?
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level. Obviously,
Speaker 1: to me, if you have enough, if you have enough,
Speaker 1: talent around you. Enough players at this kind of level,
Speaker 1: any quarterback can look good. Uh so what kind of
Speaker 1: quarterback is Huars Is this type of quarterback to go
Speaker 1: to the NFL and elevate the talent around him? Where
Speaker 1: is the kind of quarterback where he needs a talent
Speaker 1: around him that to be able to elevate.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't see him elevating anybody. I really don't.
Speaker 2: And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back,
Speaker 2: lets you know, come back where if you wanna come
Speaker 2: back to Texas he gonna train.
Speaker 1: I don't see him going to nothing to see the
Speaker 1: field before with ars Man arch Yeah, oh no, I
Speaker 1: mean he probably if he gonna come back, he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna come back somewhere else. But I doubt it's Texas
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be arch manning out.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been reading I don't know if these
Speaker 2: reports are true, O Joe, but I've been reading that
Speaker 2: there's some some some team, some some college team got
Speaker 2: six million dollars in n IL money for Okay. I
Speaker 2: mean that's I just when I just watched him, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: that ball that he threw that got picked. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out the lof the love that he loved it.
Speaker 1: Yes, the hospital ball, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I still don't know where he was storing it because
Speaker 2: the backside safety and the front like who was there?
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out saying, okay, well
Speaker 2: who what did you see? What did you what did you?
Speaker 2: I know, what did happen on that play right there?
Speaker 1: They ran it in practice multiple times, and in practice
Speaker 1: it was open.
Speaker 2: In practice, you know why it was open. You know
Speaker 2: why it was open to tell the people at home
Speaker 2: what they say. They tell the something the safety to do,
Speaker 2: what jump the underneath so we could throw the ball
Speaker 2: over your down.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he did anyway, instead of understanding of
Speaker 1: REDIA coverage, you know, and you're just letting the ball
Speaker 1: go and it's not open.
Speaker 2: Because that's the that's what happens. What happens is we hey,
Speaker 2: you go draw the thing up and then the guy circle, Okay,
Speaker 2: we want to throw the ball. Now the guy's running
Speaker 2: the scout team say a safety, you dropped the crossing
Speaker 2: route and we're gonna throw the post over your head. Boom. Well,
Speaker 2: come game time, hey, can you drop this over? Can
Speaker 2: you drunk this over round so we can throw the
Speaker 2: post behind your head. He gonna read it, right, dun,
Speaker 2: you should read it. But you see what happens, don't Joe.
Speaker 2: When you make your mind up pre snap that you're
Speaker 2: throwing the ball, that's what happens. Yeah, that's what happens.
Speaker 2: He had his mind made it. I'm throwing this post
Speaker 2: no matter what. Bro Ain't no way you hell. You
Speaker 2: read that and said, you know what, I'm throwing this
Speaker 2: and then he throws it in like a pot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's gotta be on the line. But even if it
Speaker 2: was on the line. First of all, that was targeted too,
Speaker 2: because the backside guy left his feet and hit the
Speaker 2: guy in the chest. But then ay, they didn't want
Speaker 2: to like, nah, we can't call that target and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah because they return the favor because by the
Speaker 2: letter of the law, the Texas got targeted, but they
Speaker 2: didn't want to impact the game in that way. That says, oh,
Speaker 2: no targeting. But that was absolute targeting. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: they would he would help in the helvet and the
Speaker 2: other guy left his feet, he launched. They say, you
Speaker 2: can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck
Speaker 2: of the shoulder area. He launched, and they say you
Speaker 2: can't use your health, your held of the crowd, of
Speaker 2: the helvet to make a tackle. He went to help
Speaker 2: to heaven with the guy. But it's like, man, we
Speaker 2: can't impa we can't impact this game like this. Here
Speaker 2: they pick and choose, They pick and choose the call
Speaker 2: of that absolutely right. They got to find some level
Speaker 2: of consistency when you're making these calls. Texas had three
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five total yards. Arizona State had five
Speaker 2: hundred and ten total rush yard. Texas had fifty three
Speaker 2: Arizona State had two fourteen quinn Ewers was twenty of
Speaker 2: thirty three thirty two, three touchdowns, one an aception, sam
Speaker 2: Levitt twenty four forty six to twenty two, no touchdown,
Speaker 2: one an eception. But that last interception, Muhammad made a
Speaker 2: great play. Give him credit. I mean, sometimes, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: we keep blaming, we keep blaming the quarterback back, you
Speaker 2: threw that blah blah blah. But you know the defensive guy.
Speaker 2: They studied them too. He made a hell of a
Speaker 2: play very and he didn't set up with just trying
Speaker 2: to break it up. He caught the ball, he caught
Speaker 2: it and it's okay. You know, I'm you know, hey
Speaker 2: eighty four, you got to make that play. Hey, coach,
Speaker 2: you get paid to you think you think Bronco players
Speaker 2: the only way to make money? No, no, And they
Speaker 2: studied film and they got coaches to oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so hey, I understand I'm supposed to make the play.
Speaker 2: But you know it's it's the NFL. Everybody can make
Speaker 2: a play. I'm gonna want men win more than I lose.
Speaker 2: But hey, that guy made a hell of a play
Speaker 2: on that interception that to seal this victory on Joe.
Speaker 2: But you can't get beat on four th and thirteen,
Speaker 2: Ohoe over the top? Char two. You cannot. You can't.
Speaker 2: Ah too, you can't. Nah. I was like, bro, I said,
Speaker 2: are you? I said, are you serious?
Speaker 1: That that should have been a conversation had with that
Speaker 1: not just the head coach, the defense, the coordinator, the
Speaker 1: DV coach, the secondary coach, that the man up upstairs.
Speaker 2: In the booth. Don't get bit beat deep, you can't,
Speaker 2: you can't nothing, cheat nothing, deep. I am not you. You
Speaker 2: will not complete this ball over my head. You're not
Speaker 2: because oh you're at worst case scenario I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: you line it up and again and try to run
Speaker 2: another series of downs in order to get the ball
Speaker 2: in the end zone. Now, the only thing, the only
Speaker 2: thing you can hope is that once that guy gets
Speaker 2: over your head, either Quinn, you were underthrosh or the
Speaker 2: guy dropped the football. But you Hey, now it's out
Speaker 2: of your hands. See, I want I want to play
Speaker 2: in my hands, don't yo, I want to play in
Speaker 2: my hands. I get him on the ground. That's all
Speaker 2: I got to do. Get him on the ground. Well,
Speaker 2: you get him on the ground in the end zone,
Speaker 2: it's still a touchdown. You don't get no tackle for that.
Speaker 2: You got to tackle him in the field of play
Speaker 2: or push your ass out of minds in order for
Speaker 2: you to get a tackle once he in the end zone. God,
Speaker 2: it knew me what ojo? Can guys do me a
Speaker 2: favorite college kid? If a guy get a first down,
Speaker 2: can y'all stop celebrating? What did you do? Hey? Come on, hunk,
Speaker 2: wait a minute and night, come on that you get
Speaker 2: that first ooe, the guy got the first to burst down.
Speaker 2: When you get that first down, you gotta no I'm
Speaker 2: talking about the DF defense. Oh okay, Wow, you got
Speaker 2: a big hit on somebody. He got a first down.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought I thought you meant a receiver. Okay, okay, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I'm like, what baby, I miss something?
Speaker 2: I said. Let me rewire this because I want to
Speaker 2: see what you did. It's still a first down. Now. Look,
Speaker 2: look the college kids, they gonna celebrate that. I don't
Speaker 2: mind him celebrating. And plus, o Joe, if you make
Speaker 2: a tackle, I'm as a dependent. What's your job make
Speaker 2: a tackle? You can't celebrate every tackle. I mean if
Speaker 2: you could, if you could have sacked, yeah, tackle for
Speaker 2: a loss. You get a sack, oh Joe, a big
Speaker 2: key third down. You know you want to do this.
Speaker 2: I get all that, bro, the guy get three four yards,
Speaker 2: then you jump up celebrating. Come on now, now we
Speaker 2: were doing way too much with this. They're having a
Speaker 2: good time out there. Man. She scatter boo scatter thirty
Speaker 2: carries one hundred and forty three yards, two rushing tones down,
Speaker 2: eight catches a ninety nine yards. Had that guy and
Speaker 2: I pulled his face. Man, he's gonna drag his you
Speaker 2: know what into the end zone. O Joe, scatter Bowl
Speaker 2: was so outstanding. He was named Peach Bowl Offensive Player
Speaker 2: to Game. You don't see that very often. His name
Speaker 2: is Skatpack. Gotta bo cat Pack, Gotta boo scat pack.
Speaker 2: Was Pack did something that you don't see very often,
Speaker 2: a guy winning defensive winning offensive Player of the game
Speaker 2: from a losing team. Yeah, it's only happened, you know.
Speaker 2: Jerry West. Jerry West. The first year they gave out
Speaker 2: Finals MVP in nineteen sixty nine, Jerry West won the
Speaker 2: award on a losing squad. They lost the championships four
Speaker 2: to three in the final game. They lost on their
Speaker 2: home court. Again. Now you got to go back to
Speaker 2: the ind of football. Chuck Howley. He won Super Bowl
Speaker 2: MVP on a losing squad. They lost sixteen thirteen to
Speaker 2: the Coast. Chuck Howley was the MVP. That's the only
Speaker 2: time that I can remember somebody from the losing squad
Speaker 2: winning an award. Now, I'm not saying that, maybe it's happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If in baseball and somebody's wonder a
Speaker 2: World Series MVP from the losing squad, I don't. I
Speaker 2: have to go way back, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: remember it. That's what I don't think it's happened and
Speaker 2: in the last twenty five thirty years. But it just
Speaker 2: goes to show you just how outstanding that this gentleman
Speaker 2: was from the Sun Devils running and catching the footballs
Speaker 2: he was, he'd be he belongs.
Speaker 1: When you're able to perform like that against a team
Speaker 1: like that, it lets you know you belonged, regardless of
Speaker 1: the conference you play in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you can you can tell guy that
Speaker 2: the talent shine the bull. You can tell I mean,
Speaker 2: he okay, that's an SEC defense. And he wouldn't got
Speaker 2: a book thirty he wouldn't have got a book forty
Speaker 2: three on them. And he almost had one hundred yards receiving,
Speaker 2: So he had what two hundred and what's that two
Speaker 2: hundred and forty two yards of total offibps hey man
Speaker 2: in two touchdowns against an SEC defense. Look good when
Speaker 2: you when you go, when you go play and if
Speaker 2: you at a small school, O joe, if you play
Speaker 2: an upper level, say you go to Division two and
Speaker 2: you play FCS or you FCS you play D one,
Speaker 2: the talent is shine through Darius Leonard when he played Clemson,
Speaker 2: he was at South Carolina State. Yeah, twenty nine tackles oh,
Speaker 2: he could play. I played Georgia Southern. They were the
Speaker 2: one double A national championship. The year we played them,
Speaker 2: I dropped two oh two on them. Oh he could play?
Speaker 2: He along with the NIA national championship the year before,
Speaker 2: I dropped two twenty one on them. Oh damn he
Speaker 2: did that. And you know what this is.
Speaker 1: This is another conversation that I always like to have.
Speaker 1: Where were young players coming out of high school. They're
Speaker 1: always so focused on all their offers.
Speaker 2: And where they're going.
Speaker 1: And I say it again, if you really like that,
Speaker 1: if you're really like that, and you and you feel
Speaker 1: you're as good as you think you are, but these
Speaker 1: don't matter where you go. You can put up performances
Speaker 1: like that, what you were able to do against better team,
Speaker 1: what you were able to do, or being like scat
Speaker 1: packed and coming out there and performing very well.
Speaker 2: You know they oo. I think a lot of times
Speaker 2: when you cut on the TV and you see that
Speaker 2: that horseshoe path, or you see one hundred and eight
Speaker 2: thousand at Texas A and M. You see one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand at Georgia, you see ninety three thousand at Alabama,
Speaker 2: you see one hundred and five thousand at Tennessee. Hey,
Speaker 2: kids like I want to play in front of that.
Speaker 2: That's all I mean, you know, that's what I want.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to see because that's what I
Speaker 2: saw on television. I didn't see no HBC. But see,
Speaker 2: I understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: But then now we go into the issue of Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to go to these big schools where they
Speaker 1: have players that have been there before me, and then
Speaker 1: I get there and they tell me, oh, I got
Speaker 1: to wait my turn, or I might not trust to
Speaker 1: feel as much because we have so and so and
Speaker 1: he has sen you already over you, not about know
Speaker 1: what I'm coming in here to compete for the job.
Speaker 1: But you mean to tell me he asked you are
Speaker 1: over me, so he's probably gonna play before me instead
Speaker 1: of let me have an opportunity to beat him out
Speaker 1: regardless of what what what is grade level is juniors.
Speaker 2: Matter? Oh they had to play me?
Speaker 1: Oh you think Jeremiah Smith was gonna go to Ohio
Speaker 1: State and have to sit behind somebody that's a senior
Speaker 1: or GENI because they've been there for a two, for three,
Speaker 1: three or four years and man, please, hey, you.
Speaker 2: Better get a little out of it there because he
Speaker 2: you know who's coming. Hey, hey, they had to play
Speaker 2: me on yo. Yeah, oh what you thought? Oh mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I was one of the future freshmen that travel. I
Speaker 2: ain't just traveling. Oh you could travel this week, man,
Speaker 2: travel to do what stand on the sideline of my
Speaker 2: Oh hell god? And and and and In the first game,
Speaker 2: the first game we played on you, our first whole game, man,
Speaker 2: I was so embarrassed with you. I called a gold
Speaker 2: ball fifty six yards, got tackled on the war Huh,
Speaker 2: you got it? My first catch in college. Ho, hold on,
Speaker 2: what's your embarrassed for? Man? That for me a fifty
Speaker 2: self yard touchdown, not a fifty six yard camps way east.
Speaker 1: You gotta stiffy, man, you gotta catch that thing, and
Speaker 1: you know, get that get that stiff on back behind him.
Speaker 2: O choe. It felt like, I mean, it felt like
Speaker 2: I was running. It felt to me like I was
Speaker 2: running the slow booster. I was like, damn, is somebody
Speaker 2: pulling the gains on away from me?
Speaker 1: Damn?
Speaker 2: Oh, show the game that you just watched. The Ohio
Speaker 2: State buck guys took apart the number one team in
Speaker 2: the country, the Oregon Ducks forty one one in the
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl Oregon. Excuse me, Ohio State gets their revenge.
Speaker 2: It was one of their two losses on the season.
Speaker 2: They lost earlier in the year to Oregon in Oregon,
Speaker 2: but tonight there were really no match. Jeremiah Smith set
Speaker 2: the stage early. He had seven catches, a buck eighty
Speaker 2: seven and two touchdowns, but this was really a mismatch
Speaker 2: from the word jump. And I think this is what's
Speaker 2: so frustrating about Ohio State because you see what they
Speaker 2: can be. Now. This is the team that took away,
Speaker 2: took apart the number one team in the country by
Speaker 2: twenty by three touchdown, and lost on their own home
Speaker 2: field by a team that they were favored by three touchdowns.
Speaker 2: That's what's frustrating about them. And I think that's what
Speaker 2: but Ryan, they give him credit. We've been very critical him,
Speaker 2: not critical, we were critical of the game that he's lost,
Speaker 2: losing to Ohio and losing to Michigan year in and
Speaker 2: year out. Having that level of talent that you had.
Speaker 2: Think about the quarterbacks that they're saying, think about the
Speaker 2: wide receivers, thinking about the d lineman, think about the
Speaker 2: dbs from the Denzel Wards, and the Jeff Okudas and
Speaker 2: all those guys that's come out of there, and you
Speaker 2: ain't got no national championship, no national championships. All those receivers,
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison, Junior, Jackson Smith and Jigba. You got Chris o'lavey,
Speaker 2: you got Garrett Wilson. Look at those d linemen from
Speaker 2: Chase Young, the Nick Bosa, look at those quarterbacks justin
Speaker 2: fields and you had rested soul. What's the guy that
Speaker 2: lost his life tragically, Dwayne Atkins? You had the other quarterback.
Speaker 2: And so you can understand why people like hold On,
Speaker 2: come on, coach Day, you got this level of talent.
Speaker 2: They had a top what top six, top seven pig
Speaker 2: last year the offensive tackle position. Like coach Day, you
Speaker 2: got this level of talent and you losing the Michigan
Speaker 2: and you ain't got no national championship. But all would
Speaker 2: be forgiven if he takes this thing and and and
Speaker 2: and finish it out. But the Ohio State looked good today,
Speaker 2: O Joe. They ran the ball well, they threw the
Speaker 2: ball well, they stopped miss I mean, the high powered
Speaker 2: offensive Oregon. It looks very It looked very pedestrian, very mundane.
Speaker 2: Did listen. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I could be wrong, but I think I
Speaker 1: think the week the week off, I think it did
Speaker 1: more harm than good for him to be as flat
Speaker 1: as they look today, as well as organ Is played
Speaker 1: all season long, being the number one team in the country,
Speaker 1: and the way they showed up to day, that had
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of russ. And not only
Speaker 1: was it a little bit of russ, but it was
Speaker 1: too late and there was no room for the rust
Speaker 1: when you're playing somebody like Ohio State, who had a
Speaker 1: point to prove losing the first time they met earlier
Speaker 1: in the season, and that's exactly what they got. Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 1: He said ahead of time that if you played one
Speaker 1: on one, hey, if you played one on one, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to come me. He went out
Speaker 1: there and it did exactly what he was supposed to
Speaker 1: do and handle his business. The funny thing about it,
Speaker 1: people don't. People right now are talking about Jeremiah Smith
Speaker 1: and how great he is and how good he is,
Speaker 1: and he's probably right now, even as a freshman, probably
Speaker 1: number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman.
Speaker 1: I've been watching young Bull at shamanad down there in Miami.
Speaker 1: You know, for a few years, he'd been like that
Speaker 1: in literal league. He was like that at Ohio.
Speaker 2: He is like that.
Speaker 1: When he get drafted into the NFL, he's still gonna
Speaker 1: be like that. He'd been like that for a long time.
Speaker 1: Outside of that man, Ohio State looked very very well again,
Speaker 1: hoping coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand
Speaker 1: and for all the great players that have come through Ohio,
Speaker 1: Ohio State they can have, they can hoist that trophy
Speaker 1: at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh c J. Stroud was a quarterback. You have CJ.
Speaker 2: Shrowd no national championship, Justin Fields no national championship. Dwayne
Speaker 2: Haskins no national championship. That's three quarterbacks. Take it in
Speaker 2: the first now, o'lave first round pick, Gary Wilson, first
Speaker 2: round pick Jackson Smith and JIGBA first round pick, Marvin Harrison,
Speaker 2: junior first round pick, Chase Young, the number two pick,
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, the number two pick, Jeff Okudah Denzel Ward.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, o Joe, come on. I mean people,
Speaker 2: they make it seem like we just making stuff up.
Speaker 2: You got that level of talent year in and year
Speaker 2: out and you ain't won no national championship and people like,
Speaker 2: oh oh they're being too hard rough and you lose
Speaker 2: it to Michigan. I don't think I personally don't think
Speaker 2: that's a stretch. When you got that level of talent
Speaker 2: that's coming out year in and year and you're underachieved,
Speaker 2: there's no other there, there's no other way around. O
Speaker 2: Joe coach day. You did a phenomenal job of having
Speaker 2: this team prepared and from the word jump, I have
Speaker 2: a question, huh do you still is it?
Speaker 1: Is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all
Speaker 1: these quality players year in and you're out, Is it's
Speaker 1: still unachievement simply because you haven't won the national championship.
Speaker 2: But the seasons happen. Yes, ooe. Think about it. You
Speaker 2: got offensive player the year, offensive player to your offensive
Speaker 2: player the year. Think about you got quarterbacks C J.
Speaker 2: Stroud justin fields and you had Dwayne Haskins insect session.
Speaker 2: You think about you have Jaskins, Smith and Jake, but
Speaker 2: you had Gary Well, you had a lobby. You had
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Jr. In six session and a lot of
Speaker 2: those guys played together. You had a Chase Young, you
Speaker 2: had Nick bof A, jump O Cooter, Denzel Ward. Come on,
Speaker 2: I'm bro, that's ten, bro, that's ten first round picks
Speaker 2: right there. Man. I said the same thing about Coach Saban.
Speaker 2: Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic.
Speaker 2: I asked Coach Saban this, if you had consistently lost
Speaker 2: to Auburn and you got Julio and you got Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 2: and you got Judy and you got Rugs, and you
Speaker 2: got Waddle, and you got Devonte Smith, and you got
Speaker 2: a Marik Cooper, and you got those quarterbacks, you got
Speaker 2: to her, you got Young, you got what's the guy
Speaker 2: that went to New England? Uh Jones? Mack John Matt Jones. Okay,
Speaker 2: you got him. Now you got and plus you got
Speaker 2: a what's the guy Derrick Henry? And you got n G. Harris,
Speaker 2: you got Damien Harrick. Bro And I ain't even talking
Speaker 2: about the defense. I ain't gonna talk about what they
Speaker 2: and you don't win on national championship direct even after
Speaker 2: a couple of years of coach and Alabama fans, y'all
Speaker 2: know this. Even after a couple of years of not
Speaker 2: winning the national championship after he had done one four
Speaker 2: or five, they say coach Saban had lost his fastball.
Speaker 2: That man had got four or five national championships, and
Speaker 2: they saying that with the talent you got Cowinny Williams,
Speaker 2: and you got Allen and you got all those guys.
Speaker 2: SE made you better, A you better you paid when
Speaker 2: you have that level of talent, O children, I mean,
Speaker 2: think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put
Speaker 2: out every single year. Ohio State ain't far behind. The
Speaker 2: only difference is Alabama has has one in the last
Speaker 2: fifteen years, has won six national championships, played for another three.
Speaker 2: That's the difference between them.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I would love to hear espressing
Speaker 1: the chat and then probably people that are gonna watch
Speaker 1: this after the fact and hear us talk about this
Speaker 1: and saying that Ohio State is under achieved based on
Speaker 1: the level of talent that they've had in succession there
Speaker 1: without winning the national championship. Us to hit rebuffles and
Speaker 1: with the not excuses, but the reasons behind why they
Speaker 1: having one will be and you know, always find a
Speaker 1: way they come up with something. I don't want to
Speaker 1: call them excuses, but there are valid reasons, depending on
Speaker 1: what they may be. For whatever reason, I'm curious to
Speaker 1: hear what they have to say.
Speaker 2: Quin Ewers has received a six million dollar offer to
Speaker 2: enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL
Speaker 2: Draft this spring. According to On three, multiple Power Forward
Speaker 2: schools are working to get yours and the portal ahead
Speaker 2: of the final of his final year of college eligibility.
Speaker 2: Six million for one year, Ojo, you got to come back.
Speaker 1: He has to come back and continue to work on
Speaker 1: his game because when you watch court, when you watch yours,
Speaker 1: I need your play to pop out on the screen.
Speaker 2: I needed to pop out when you watch it.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in college, you watch to see extrid in college,
Speaker 1: when you watch other quarterbacks like the cam Wards, they
Speaker 1: pop out on screen.
Speaker 2: There's something special about those individuals. Special. So if he
Speaker 2: needs to come back another year, no matter, no matter
Speaker 2: where it is, and you know, pop out on I
Speaker 2: agree with you. I agree with you, O Joe. I
Speaker 2: don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but
Speaker 2: I don't see special. I don't see I don't see
Speaker 2: man a muscle, a guy that say, like boy, they
Speaker 2: get him. He gonna great, He's gonna he's gonna drastically
Speaker 2: change their fortunes. I don't see that. Now, let's see,
Speaker 2: let's see. I mean he might come back and get better,
Speaker 2: because nobody saw that. If you the ask teams that
Speaker 2: were gonna look at Joe Burrow before he came back
Speaker 2: for seen year, Joe Burrow didn't see it seemed special.
Speaker 2: But he came back for that year. He was special.
Speaker 2: Mac Jones. Hell, if Mac Jones don't come and get
Speaker 2: that one year, Mac Jones, ain't no first ain't no
Speaker 2: first round there Sometimes look, hey, I don't blame people like,
Speaker 2: well look what yes, okay, now can't he make it happen?
Speaker 2: You're throwing at Davonte. You got Naja, you got Wattle,
Speaker 2: you know, you got a you got a very very
Speaker 2: talented team. It just goes to show you just how
Speaker 2: good he was because he kept Bryce Young on the bitch.
Speaker 2: If we see Bryce Young the next year won the Heisman. Hey,
Speaker 2: and also look at the talent this this would I
Speaker 2: like about Bryce too.
Speaker 1: Now we saw him, We saw Bryce win the Heisman,
Speaker 1: but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he got got to Carolina. You thought something was.
Speaker 1: Wrong with him. Then he gets bench. He come back
Speaker 1: out to getting benched. I don't know what the hell happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know what type of prayer he said. Now
Speaker 1: he's back to playing great football. Looked like the Bryce
Speaker 1: Young we saw in college, even in losing. He's in
Speaker 1: even in losing efforts at the team.
Speaker 2: And as a quarterback. He looks completely totally different than
Speaker 2: he did when he first All right, he did, he does.
Speaker 2: They just need to give him from talent. If you
Speaker 2: look at the quarterbacks that perform well, look at CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 2: Look at what he was throwing the tang Dale, the
Speaker 2: Nico Collins, look at what he was throwing to. Okay,
Speaker 2: look at Kayler Williams. He got Roman, Dudes, they first
Speaker 2: round pick. He got DJ Moore, who just signed a
Speaker 2: contract extension. He got Keenan Allen. Look at look at
Speaker 2: what uh Daniels? Yeah, Jaydon look at what he's throwing to. Damn.
Speaker 2: I mean, y'all want the man to come back? Hey,
Speaker 2: I don't care. Even Peyton Peyton Manny had Marvin Harrison
Speaker 2: when he got there. He had Marvin Harrison. He had
Speaker 2: Ken Dilger, I mean, and he had Marshall fall crazy yes,
Speaker 2: as a rookie. He had two first batlet Hall of
Speaker 2: Famers as a rookie. That's a lucky Ken Dilga had
Speaker 2: been to Pro Bowls. There's another I forget the guy named,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, the other tight end. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, the Calls had two tight ends to make
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. Mark what's his name? Uh, go back
Speaker 2: and look at ninety Teddy stop scratching the couch. Uh.
Speaker 2: I can't think of the other. The other brother, he
Speaker 2: was a what's that dude's name? Because I traded I
Speaker 2: traded helmets with Ken deal get the pro bo one year.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what year was that shell? I
Speaker 2: don't even remember. Yeah, Uh, Pro Bowl tight end death no, no, no,
Speaker 2: in like in the nineties. Yeah, Marcus Pollard, thank you
Speaker 2: chat Marcus focus Pollard. I remember, I remember Marcus Pollard
Speaker 2: and I ain't heard that name in a minute. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, y'all want these guys to come out
Speaker 2: here and you spect tracing the thing, but go back
Speaker 2: and look at your favorite quarterback and see what they
Speaker 2: were throwing too. Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became
Speaker 2: the start, y'all know who he throwing to. Right, he
Speaker 2: had Tyreek, he had Sammy Watkins, he had Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 2: Can I interest you in any of those guys. Two
Speaker 2: of those guys are going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Tyreek and Kelsey gonna go to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: That's what he was throwing to. Look at what Big
Speaker 2: Ben had to throw to. No, look what he's always
Speaker 2: always had to throw to. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Hey, The Pittsburgh Stealers are just like Cincinnati when it
Speaker 1: comes to receivers. You know that, you have you noticed
Speaker 1: that they always have good receivers come through that channel,
Speaker 1: no matter what. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh always.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had plaques, they had Hines. What's your guy
Speaker 2: that won the Super Bowl? MVP? Santonio Holmes, Santonio Homes.
Speaker 2: I mean, bro, y'all think it seemed like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, give give up Bryce Young those type
Speaker 2: of weapons and let's see, let's see. You gotta get
Speaker 2: a guy something to work with Marino. I think Marina
Speaker 2: what uh? I think Duper and Clayton got there with
Speaker 2: Marino in eighty three. They might have came in eighty
Speaker 2: It might have been eighty three. They might have got
Speaker 2: there together, but you gotta get a guy something to
Speaker 2: work with. Now, the volume