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<v Speaker 2>The Texas Longhorns beat the Arizona State while a sun

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<v Speaker 2>Devils and an OT thriller, a double OT thriller. The

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<v Speaker 2>number five Texas squad to the sixteen point lead in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter, miss two field goals in the final

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes of regulation, and still somehow managed to escape

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<v Speaker 2>with the thirty nine thirty one double overtime win over

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<v Speaker 2>the number four seat Arizona State. In the pepot, the

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<v Speaker 2>check a late po o jo Hey, I know, sorry

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<v Speaker 2>as I just texted him congratulations. Try to get him

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<v Speaker 2>on here one of these for the next couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe we can uh, we can we can get

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<v Speaker 2>him on there. He's like, they flying back now, so

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<v Speaker 2>or we would have had his ass over. He had

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<v Speaker 2>him on here tonight. But man, this was a game,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Jo, this is how it's supposed to be. Ain't

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<v Speaker 2>nobody trying to see no double digit? Everybody win him

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<v Speaker 2>by double.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought it was listening the way it

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<v Speaker 1>started out. I thought it was on the state was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get blown out.

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<v Speaker 2>Now a fourteen? What was the fourteen? What was the fourteen? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But the man, they jumped out on top of them

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<v Speaker 1>boy's head. I'm like, oh man, I'm fin the turn

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<v Speaker 1>of channel. I'm from the turn of the channel. And then

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<v Speaker 1>obviously things started to change, things started to move. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's wrong with college kickers. Hell, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers. You have

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<v Speaker 1>one job, You do one thing the entirey day of practice.

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<v Speaker 2>You kicked the ball. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Excess kicker almost cost them almost called Keith field goals

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<v Speaker 1>that could have seen the wind. Now they did win

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<v Speaker 1>the game, but ain't no telling what what could have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't I'm telling what could have happened that God damn

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<v Speaker 1>Cam He you say, young bull laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Ned to run scatter boat scat scatack? Is it scatterb

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<v Speaker 2>because they were they were saying scatable, that's a scapboat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know what, I'm gonnall him. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call him scat packed. I'm call him scam scam cam

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<v Speaker 1>scat pack.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's nice boy. He now he's a singer too.

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<v Speaker 1>He coming out huh scatib cam scattable, okay, cam scat cam,

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<v Speaker 1>scaped back, scatterbo.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're probably gonna see this. I know you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably watching the show. Listen. If you don't see it,

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<v Speaker 2>I know my son gonna let you know. For you

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<v Speaker 2>the real deal boy, you and me, he will see

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<v Speaker 2>huh yeah, I think he'll see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we have you know you belong you belong you.

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<v Speaker 1>He run the ball like he belonged to. He's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>play for the Ravens of the Browns.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's gonna be a rare. He's gonna be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the white running back. They don't cople but normally

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<v Speaker 2>would that couple.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know he he's gonna be like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I give you a good name right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me if you remember this Peyton Hillis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, little Peyton Hellis, don't keep up. Run hard if

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting the where he gets shakey a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>He got he got a little he got a little

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<v Speaker 1>little move to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well you remember Hillis was in that backfield with

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<v Speaker 2>Darren McFadden and the other kid that went to the

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<v Speaker 2>winter the Cowboys. What's the other guy named? I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they would they were doing it, you matter Fadden and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what's this? I can't think of the guy's name. What's

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<v Speaker 2>what's the guy's name? God, I know, y'all people talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Toby Gerhart. Uh the old cardinal Stanford Cardinal. What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>He was at Arkansas? Phelix Jones, Jones, Yeah, Derren McFadden,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes all they was in the backfield, yeah, yes, yes, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is where game is supposed to be. Quinn,

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<v Speaker 2>youres twenty of thirty three thirty three twenty two three

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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns one of the exceptions. Uh, they didn't run the

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<v Speaker 2>ball particularly well. Thirty carries fifty three yards, Golden had

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<v Speaker 2>a big catch, Uh saym for buck forty nine, Helm

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<v Speaker 2>had three for fifty six and uh m oh, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Arizona State's gonna be kicking himself. They kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I think they kind of let this one go.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't let that guy get over your head in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation, O Joe. That that that touch down, that

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<v Speaker 2>first touched down in ot Oh Jo, you can't, lady,

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<v Speaker 2>you mean that, you just that.

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<v Speaker 1>Should have been the number one rule from the coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep everything in front of you, everything, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Number rule, O Joe, the number one rule late in

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<v Speaker 2>the ball game. Nothing cheap, nothing deep, keeping it front

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<v Speaker 2>of eight. Nothing cheap, nothing deep. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 2>he catch it. I don't care if he catches fifty

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<v Speaker 2>yard right in front of me. It's when you try

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<v Speaker 2>to be the hero and get you a cheap yep

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<v Speaker 2>that gets you in trouble. Ain't no way safety you

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<v Speaker 2>the last line of defense. If he's even with you,

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<v Speaker 2>you're wrong, mister rap he Oh Joe, it was thawed

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<v Speaker 2>down with the thirteen. Oh Joe, you cannot give that up.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. Oh, oh Joe, my heels on the gold line.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm figuring about figure. I think they throw the hairburry,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, I throw the gold line by heels on

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<v Speaker 2>the gold line, knock get down knock get down. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not get maaed r I you cheap job. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I don't even want to blame

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches. I don't want to blame coaching. As a

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<v Speaker 1>player in that situation, you got to have some type

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<v Speaker 1>of awareness, some type of weardeness and understanding, understand the

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<v Speaker 1>situation that you're in and know you just you can't

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<v Speaker 1>be you can't get beat, not in that situation at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And if if I am, let him make a great play,

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<v Speaker 1>but let me be in position, you don't make the play.

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<v Speaker 1>At least let me be in position and he have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a great play in or to catch that.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I was like, oh my goodness, oh fourth and thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>you give up that? Uh. But I think Arizona State

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<v Speaker 2>showed that they belong to Everybody was like, well, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't belong that weak conference and they didn't do this,

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<v Speaker 2>and this team didn't do that. They played, they gave

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<v Speaker 2>Texas all they could definitely belong they and or oh Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>when you watch Quinn yours what you think you know?

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, if you have enough, if you have enough,

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<v Speaker 1>talent around you. Enough players at this kind of level,

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<v Speaker 1>any quarterback can look good. Uh so what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is Huars Is this type of quarterback to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the NFL and elevate the talent around him? Where

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<v Speaker 1>is the kind of quarterback where he needs a talent

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<v Speaker 1>around him that to be able to elevate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't see him elevating anybody. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>lets you know, come back where if you wanna come

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<v Speaker 2>back to Texas he gonna train.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see him going to nothing to see the

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<v Speaker 1>field before with ars Man arch Yeah, oh no, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he probably if he gonna come back, he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come back somewhere else. But I doubt it's Texas

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<v Speaker 1>because he's not gonna be arch manning out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've been reading I don't know if these

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<v Speaker 2>reports are true, O Joe, but I've been reading that

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<v Speaker 2>there's some some some team, some some college team got

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<v Speaker 2>six million dollars in n IL money for Okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's I just when I just watched him, I'm like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>that ball that he threw that got picked. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out the lof the love that he loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the hospital ball, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't know where he was storing it because

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<v Speaker 2>the backside safety and the front like who was there?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just trying to figure out saying, okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>who what did you see? What did you what did you?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, what did happen on that play right there?

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<v Speaker 1>They ran it in practice multiple times, and in practice

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<v Speaker 1>it was open.

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<v Speaker 2>In practice, you know why it was open. You know

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<v Speaker 2>why it was open to tell the people at home

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<v Speaker 2>what they say. They tell the something the safety to do,

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<v Speaker 2>what jump the underneath so we could throw the ball

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<v Speaker 2>over your down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what he did anyway, instead of understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>REDIA coverage, you know, and you're just letting the ball

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<v Speaker 1>go and it's not open.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's the that's what happens. What happens is we hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you go draw the thing up and then the guy circle, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to throw the ball. Now the guy's running

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<v Speaker 2>the scout team say a safety, you dropped the crossing

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<v Speaker 2>route and we're gonna throw the post over your head. Boom. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>come game time, hey, can you drop this over? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you drunk this over round so we can throw the

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<v Speaker 2>post behind your head. He gonna read it, right, dun,

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<v Speaker 2>you should read it. But you see what happens, don't Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>When you make your mind up pre snap that you're

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<v Speaker 2>throwing the ball, that's what happens. Yeah, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>He had his mind made it. I'm throwing this post

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what. Bro Ain't no way you hell. You

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<v Speaker 2>read that and said, you know what, I'm throwing this

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<v Speaker 2>and then he throws it in like a pot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gotta be on the line. But even if it

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<v Speaker 2>was on the line. First of all, that was targeted too,

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<v Speaker 2>because the backside guy left his feet and hit the

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<v Speaker 2>guy in the chest. But then ay, they didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to like, nah, we can't call that target and blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah because they return the favor because by the

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<v Speaker 2>letter of the law, the Texas got targeted, but they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to impact the game in that way. That says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>no targeting. But that was absolute targeting. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they would he would help in the helvet and the

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<v Speaker 2>other guy left his feet, he launched. They say, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck

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<v Speaker 2>of the shoulder area. He launched, and they say you

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<v Speaker 2>can't use your health, your held of the crowd, of

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<v Speaker 2>the helvet to make a tackle. He went to help

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<v Speaker 2>to heaven with the guy. But it's like, man, we

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<v Speaker 2>can't impa we can't impact this game like this. Here

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<v Speaker 2>they pick and choose, They pick and choose the call

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<v Speaker 2>of that absolutely right. They got to find some level

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<v Speaker 2>of consistency when you're making these calls. Texas had three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy five total yards. Arizona State had five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten total rush yard. Texas had fifty three

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona State had two fourteen quinn Ewers was twenty of

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three thirty two, three touchdowns, one an aception, sam

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<v Speaker 2>Levitt twenty four forty six to twenty two, no touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>one an eception. But that last interception, Muhammad made a

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<v Speaker 2>great play. Give him credit. I mean, sometimes, oh Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>we keep blaming, we keep blaming the quarterback back, you

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<v Speaker 2>threw that blah blah blah. But you know the defensive guy.

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<v Speaker 2>They studied them too. He made a hell of a

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<v Speaker 2>play very and he didn't set up with just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to break it up. He caught the ball, he caught

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<v Speaker 2>it and it's okay. You know, I'm you know, hey

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four, you got to make that play. Hey, coach,

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<v Speaker 2>you get paid to you think you think Bronco players

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<v Speaker 2>the only way to make money? No, no, And they

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<v Speaker 2>studied film and they got coaches to oh okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so hey, I understand I'm supposed to make the play.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know it's it's the NFL. Everybody can make

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<v Speaker 2>a play. I'm gonna want men win more than I lose.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, that guy made a hell of a play

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<v Speaker 2>on that interception that to seal this victory on Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't get beat on four th and thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohoe over the top? Char two. You cannot. You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah too, you can't. Nah. I was like, bro, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>are you? I said, are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>That that should have been a conversation had with that

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<v Speaker 1>not just the head coach, the defense, the coordinator, the

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<v Speaker 1>DV coach, the secondary coach, that the man up upstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>In the booth. Don't get bit beat deep, you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't nothing, cheat nothing, deep. I am not you. You

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<v Speaker 2>will not complete this ball over my head. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>because oh you're at worst case scenario I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>you line it up and again and try to run

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<v Speaker 2>another series of downs in order to get the ball

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<v Speaker 2>in the end zone. Now, the only thing, the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing you can hope is that once that guy gets

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<v Speaker 2>over your head, either Quinn, you were underthrosh or the

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<v Speaker 2>guy dropped the football. But you Hey, now it's out

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<v Speaker 2>of your hands. See, I want I want to play

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<v Speaker 2>in my hands, don't yo, I want to play in

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<v Speaker 2>my hands. I get him on the ground. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I got to do. Get him on the ground. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you get him on the ground in the end zone,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still a touchdown. You don't get no tackle for that.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to tackle him in the field of play

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<v Speaker 2>or push your ass out of minds in order for

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<v Speaker 2>you to get a tackle once he in the end zone. God,

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<v Speaker 2>it knew me what ojo? Can guys do me a

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<v Speaker 2>favorite college kid? If a guy get a first down,

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<v Speaker 2>can y'all stop celebrating? What did you do? Hey? Come on, hunk,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute and night, come on that you get

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<v Speaker 2>that first ooe, the guy got the first to burst down.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get that first down, you gotta no I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the DF defense. Oh okay, Wow, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a big hit on somebody. He got a first down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought I thought you meant a receiver. Okay, okay, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, I'm like, what baby, I miss something?

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<v Speaker 2>I said. Let me rewire this because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see what you did. It's still a first down. Now. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>look the college kids, they gonna celebrate that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mind him celebrating. And plus, o Joe, if you make

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<v Speaker 2>a tackle, I'm as a dependent. What's your job make

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<v Speaker 2>a tackle? You can't celebrate every tackle. I mean if

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<v Speaker 2>you could, if you could have sacked, yeah, tackle for

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<v Speaker 2>a loss. You get a sack, oh Joe, a big

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<v Speaker 2>key third down. You know you want to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I get all that, bro, the guy get three four yards,

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<v Speaker 2>then you jump up celebrating. Come on now, now we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing way too much with this. They're having a

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<v Speaker 2>good time out there. Man. She scatter boo scatter thirty

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<v Speaker 2>carries one hundred and forty three yards, two rushing tones down,

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<v Speaker 2>eight catches a ninety nine yards. Had that guy and

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled his face. Man, he's gonna drag his you

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<v Speaker 2>know what into the end zone. O Joe, scatter Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>was so outstanding. He was named Peach Bowl Offensive Player

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<v Speaker 2>to Game. You don't see that very often. His name

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<v Speaker 2>is Skatpack. Gotta bo cat Pack, Gotta boo scat pack.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Pack did something that you don't see very often,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy winning defensive winning offensive Player of the game

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<v Speaker 2>from a losing team. Yeah, it's only happened, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry West. Jerry West. The first year they gave out

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<v Speaker 2>Finals MVP in nineteen sixty nine, Jerry West won the

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<v Speaker 2>award on a losing squad. They lost the championships four

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<v Speaker 2>to three in the final game. They lost on their

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<v Speaker 2>home court. Again. Now you got to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the ind of football. Chuck Howley. He won Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>MVP on a losing squad. They lost sixteen thirteen to

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<v Speaker 2>the Coast. Chuck Howley was the MVP. That's the only

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<v Speaker 2>time that I can remember somebody from the losing squad

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<v Speaker 2>winning an award. Now, I'm not saying that, maybe it's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. If in baseball and somebody's wonder a

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<v Speaker 2>World Series MVP from the losing squad, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>have to go way back, but I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember it. That's what I don't think it's happened and

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<v Speaker 2>in the last twenty five thirty years. But it just

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<v Speaker 2>goes to show you just how outstanding that this gentleman

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<v Speaker 2>was from the Sun Devils running and catching the footballs

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<v Speaker 2>he was, he'd be he belongs.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're able to perform like that against a team

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<v Speaker 1>like that, it lets you know you belonged, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>the conference you play in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but you can you can tell guy that

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<v Speaker 2>the talent shine the bull. You can tell I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he okay, that's an SEC defense. And he wouldn't got

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<v Speaker 2>a book thirty he wouldn't have got a book forty

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<v Speaker 2>three on them. And he almost had one hundred yards receiving,

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<v Speaker 2>So he had what two hundred and what's that two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty two yards of total offibps hey man

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<v Speaker 2>in two touchdowns against an SEC defense. Look good when

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<v Speaker 2>you when you go, when you go play and if

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<v Speaker 2>you at a small school, O joe, if you play

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<v Speaker 2>an upper level, say you go to Division two and

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<v Speaker 2>you play FCS or you FCS you play D one,

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<v Speaker 2>the talent is shine through Darius Leonard when he played Clemson,

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<v Speaker 2>he was at South Carolina State. Yeah, twenty nine tackles oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he could play. I played Georgia Southern. They were the

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<v Speaker 2>one double A national championship. The year we played them,

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<v Speaker 2>I dropped two oh two on them. Oh he could play?

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<v Speaker 2>He along with the NIA national championship the year before,

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<v Speaker 2>I dropped two twenty one on them. Oh damn he

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<v Speaker 2>did that. And you know what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another conversation that I always like to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Where were young players coming out of high school. They're

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<v Speaker 1>always so focused on all their offers.

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<v Speaker 2>And where they're going.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say it again, if you really like that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're really like that, and you and you feel

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<v Speaker 1>you're as good as you think you are, but these

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<v Speaker 1>don't matter where you go. You can put up performances

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<v Speaker 1>like that, what you were able to do against better team,

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<v Speaker 1>what you were able to do, or being like scat

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<v Speaker 1>packed and coming out there and performing very well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they oo. I think a lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>when you cut on the TV and you see that

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<v Speaker 2>that horseshoe path, or you see one hundred and eight

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<v Speaker 2>thousand at Texas A and M. You see one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand at Georgia, you see ninety three thousand at Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>you see one hundred and five thousand at Tennessee. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>kids like I want to play in front of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I mean, you know, that's what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I want to see because that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>saw on television. I didn't see no HBC. But see,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But then now we go into the issue of Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to these big schools where they

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<v Speaker 1>have players that have been there before me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I get there and they tell me, oh, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to wait my turn, or I might not trust to

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<v Speaker 1>feel as much because we have so and so and

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<v Speaker 1>he has sen you already over you, not about know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm coming in here to compete for the job.

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<v Speaker 1>But you mean to tell me he asked you are

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<v Speaker 1>over me, so he's probably gonna play before me instead

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<v Speaker 1>of let me have an opportunity to beat him out

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what what what is grade level is juniors.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter? Oh they had to play me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you think Jeremiah Smith was gonna go to Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State and have to sit behind somebody that's a senior

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<v Speaker 1>or GENI because they've been there for a two, for three,

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<v Speaker 1>three or four years and man, please, hey, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Better get a little out of it there because he

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<v Speaker 2>you know who's coming. Hey, hey, they had to play

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<v Speaker 2>me on yo. Yeah, oh what you thought? Oh mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of the future freshmen that travel. I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't just traveling. Oh you could travel this week, man,

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<v Speaker 2>travel to do what stand on the sideline of my

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell god? And and and and In the first game,

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<v Speaker 2>the first game we played on you, our first whole game, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so embarrassed with you. I called a gold

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<v Speaker 2>ball fifty six yards, got tackled on the war Huh,

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<v Speaker 2>you got it? My first catch in college. Ho, hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your embarrassed for? Man? That for me a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>self yard touchdown, not a fifty six yard camps way east.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta stiffy, man, you gotta catch that thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get that get that stiff on back behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>O choe. It felt like, I mean, it felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I was running. It felt to me like I was

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<v Speaker 2>running the slow booster. I was like, damn, is somebody

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<v Speaker 2>pulling the gains on away from me?

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<v Speaker 1>Damn?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, show the game that you just watched. The Ohio

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.600
<v Speaker 2>State buck guys took apart the number one team in

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<v Speaker 2>the country, the Oregon Ducks forty one one in the

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Rose Bowl Oregon. Excuse me, Ohio State gets their revenge.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of their two losses on the season.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost earlier in the year to Oregon in Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>but tonight there were really no match. Jeremiah Smith set

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<v Speaker 2>the stage early. He had seven catches, a buck eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven and two touchdowns, but this was really a mismatch

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<v Speaker 2>from the word jump. And I think this is what's

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<v Speaker 2>so frustrating about Ohio State because you see what they

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 2>can be. Now. This is the team that took away,

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<v Speaker 2>took apart the number one team in the country by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty by three touchdown, and lost on their own home

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<v Speaker 2>field by a team that they were favored by three touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's frustrating about them. And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>but Ryan, they give him credit. We've been very critical him,

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<v Speaker 2>not critical, we were critical of the game that he's lost,

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<v Speaker 2>losing to Ohio and losing to Michigan year in and

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<v Speaker 2>year out. Having that level of talent that you had.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about the quarterbacks that they're saying, think about the

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<v Speaker 2>wide receivers, thinking about the d lineman, think about the

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<v Speaker 2>dbs from the Denzel Wards, and the Jeff Okudas and

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<v Speaker 2>all those guys that's come out of there, and you

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<v Speaker 2>ain't got no national championship, no national championships. All those receivers,

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison, Junior, Jackson Smith and Jigba. You got Chris o'lavey,

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 2>you got Garrett Wilson. Look at those d linemen from

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<v Speaker 2>Chase Young, the Nick Bosa, look at those quarterbacks justin

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 2>fields and you had rested soul. What's the guy that

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 2>lost his life tragically, Dwayne Atkins? You had the other quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you can understand why people like hold On,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, coach Day, you got this level of talent.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a top what top six, top seven pig

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<v Speaker 2>last year the offensive tackle position. Like coach Day, you

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<v Speaker 2>got this level of talent and you losing the Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>and you ain't got no national championship. But all would

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<v Speaker 2>be forgiven if he takes this thing and and and

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<v Speaker 2>and finish it out. But the Ohio State looked good today,

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<v Speaker 2>O Joe. They ran the ball well, they threw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball well, they stopped miss I mean, the high powered

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<v Speaker 2>offensive Oregon. It looks very It looked very pedestrian, very mundane.

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<v Speaker 2>Did listen. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe I could be wrong, but I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think the week the week off, I think it did

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<v Speaker 1>more harm than good for him to be as flat

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<v Speaker 1>as they look today, as well as organ Is played

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<v Speaker 1>all season long, being the number one team in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way they showed up to day, that had

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit of russ. And not only

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<v Speaker 1>was it a little bit of russ, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>too late and there was no room for the rust

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<v Speaker 1>when you're playing somebody like Ohio State, who had a

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<v Speaker 1>point to prove losing the first time they met earlier

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in the season, and that's exactly what they got. Jeremiah Smith.

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>He said ahead of time that if you played one

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<v Speaker 1>on one, hey, if you played one on one, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to come me. He went out

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<v Speaker 1>there and it did exactly what he was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>do and handle his business. The funny thing about it,

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>people don't. People right now are talking about Jeremiah Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and how great he is and how good he is,

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's probably right now, even as a freshman, probably

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<v Speaker 1>number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman.

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I've been watching young Bull at shamanad down there in Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for a few years, he'd been like that

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>in literal league. He was like that at Ohio.

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 2>He is like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When he get drafted into the NFL, he's still gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like that. He'd been like that for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of that man, Ohio State looked very very well again,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand

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<v Speaker 1>and for all the great players that have come through Ohio,

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State they can have, they can hoist that trophy

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh c J. Stroud was a quarterback. You have CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Shrowd no national championship, Justin Fields no national championship. Dwayne

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Haskins no national championship. That's three quarterbacks. Take it in

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<v Speaker 2>the first now, o'lave first round pick, Gary Wilson, first

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 2>round pick Jackson Smith and JIGBA first round pick, Marvin Harrison,

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 2>junior first round pick, Chase Young, the number two pick,

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Nick Bosa, the number two pick, Jeff Okudah Denzel Ward.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, now, o Joe, come on. I mean people,

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 2>they make it seem like we just making stuff up.

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 2>You got that level of talent year in and year

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<v Speaker 2>out and you ain't won no national championship and people like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh oh they're being too hard rough and you lose

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<v Speaker 2>it to Michigan. I don't think I personally don't think

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a stretch. When you got that level of talent

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<v Speaker 2>that's coming out year in and year and you're underachieved,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 2>there's no other there, there's no other way around. O

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Joe coach day. You did a phenomenal job of having

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>this team prepared and from the word jump, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a question, huh do you still is it?

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all

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<v Speaker 1>these quality players year in and you're out, Is it's

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>still unachievement simply because you haven't won the national championship.

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 2>But the seasons happen. Yes, ooe. Think about it. You

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>got offensive player the year, offensive player to your offensive

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 2>player the year. Think about you got quarterbacks C J.

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Stroud justin fields and you had Dwayne Haskins insect session.

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 2>You think about you have Jaskins, Smith and Jake, but

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>you had Gary Well, you had a lobby. You had

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison Jr. In six session and a lot of

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>those guys played together. You had a Chase Young, you

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 2>had Nick bof A, jump O Cooter, Denzel Ward. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bro, that's ten, bro, that's ten first round picks

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<v Speaker 2>right there. Man. I said the same thing about Coach Saban.

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I asked Coach Saban this, if you had consistently lost

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 2>to Auburn and you got Julio and you got Calvin Ridley,

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 2>and you got Judy and you got Rugs, and you

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 2>got Waddle, and you got Devonte Smith, and you got

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>a Marik Cooper, and you got those quarterbacks, you got

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>to her, you got Young, you got what's the guy

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 2>that went to New England? Uh Jones? Mack John Matt Jones. Okay,

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 2>you got him. Now you got and plus you got

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 2>a what's the guy Derrick Henry? And you got n G. Harris,

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>you got Damien Harrick. Bro And I ain't even talking

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 2>about the defense. I ain't gonna talk about what they

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and you don't win on national championship direct even after

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years of coach and Alabama fans, y'all

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>know this. Even after a couple of years of not

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 2>winning the national championship after he had done one four

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 2>or five, they say coach Saban had lost his fastball.

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 2>That man had got four or five national championships, and

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>they saying that with the talent you got Cowinny Williams,

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and you got Allen and you got all those guys.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>SE made you better, A you better you paid when

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you have that level of talent, O children, I mean,

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>out every single year. Ohio State ain't far behind. The

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>only difference is Alabama has has one in the last

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years, has won six national championships, played for another three.

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the difference between them.

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I would love to hear espressing

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the chat and then probably people that are gonna watch

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this after the fact and hear us talk about this

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and saying that Ohio State is under achieved based on

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the level of talent that they've had in succession there

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>without winning the national championship. Us to hit rebuffles and

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>with the not excuses, but the reasons behind why they

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>having one will be and you know, always find a

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>way they come up with something. I don't want to

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>call them excuses, but there are valid reasons, depending on

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>what they may be. For whatever reason, I'm curious to

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>hear what they have to say.

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Quin Ewers has received a six million dollar offer to

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 2>enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Draft this spring. According to On three, multiple Power Forward

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>schools are working to get yours and the portal ahead

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>of the final of his final year of college eligibility.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Six million for one year, Ojo, you got to come back.

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>He has to come back and continue to work on

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>his game because when you watch court, when you watch yours,

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I need your play to pop out on the screen.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I needed to pop out when you watch it.

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow in college, you watch to see extrid in college,

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.239
<v Speaker 1>when you watch other quarterbacks like the cam Wards, they

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>pop out on screen.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>There's something special about those individuals. Special. So if he

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>needs to come back another year, no matter, no matter

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>where it is, and you know, pop out on I

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 2>agree with you. I agree with you, O Joe. I

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't see special. I don't see I don't see

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>man a muscle, a guy that say, like boy, they

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 2>get him. He gonna great, He's gonna he's gonna drastically

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>change their fortunes. I don't see that. Now, let's see,

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 2>let's see. I mean he might come back and get better,

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>because nobody saw that. If you the ask teams that

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>were gonna look at Joe Burrow before he came back

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 2>for seen year, Joe Burrow didn't see it seemed special.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>But he came back for that year. He was special.

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Mac Jones. Hell, if Mac Jones don't come and get

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>that one year, Mac Jones, ain't no first ain't no

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>first round there Sometimes look, hey, I don't blame people like,

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 2>well look what yes, okay, now can't he make it happen?

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>You're throwing at Davonte. You got Naja, you got Wattle,

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, you got a you got a very very

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>talented team. It just goes to show you just how

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>good he was because he kept Bryce Young on the bitch.

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 2>If we see Bryce Young the next year won the Heisman. Hey,

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and also look at the talent this this would I

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>like about Bryce too.

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Now we saw him, We saw Bryce win the Heisman,

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.239
<v Speaker 1>but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he got got to Carolina. You thought something was.

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Wrong with him. Then he gets bench. He come back

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>out to getting benched. I don't know what the hell happened.

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what type of prayer he said. Now

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>he's back to playing great football. Looked like the Bryce

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Young we saw in college, even in losing. He's in

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>even in losing efforts at the team.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 2>And as a quarterback. He looks completely totally different than

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>he did when he first All right, he did, he does.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>They just need to give him from talent. If you

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 2>look at the quarterbacks that perform well, look at CJ. Stroud,

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Look at what he was throwing the tang Dale, the

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Nico Collins, look at what he was throwing to. Okay,

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>look at Kayler Williams. He got Roman, Dudes, they first

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>round pick. He got DJ Moore, who just signed a

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 2>contract extension. He got Keenan Allen. Look at look at

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>what uh Daniels? Yeah, Jaydon look at what he's throwing to. Damn.

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, y'all want the man to come back? Hey,

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. Even Peyton Peyton Manny had Marvin Harrison

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>when he got there. He had Marvin Harrison. He had

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Ken Dilger, I mean, and he had Marshall fall crazy yes,

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>as a rookie. He had two first batlet Hall of

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Famers as a rookie. That's a lucky Ken Dilga had

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 2>been to Pro Bowls. There's another I forget the guy named,

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness, the other tight end. As a matter

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 2>of fact, the Calls had two tight ends to make

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the Pro Bowl. Mark what's his name? Uh, go back

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>and look at ninety Teddy stop scratching the couch. Uh.

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't think of the other. The other brother, he

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>was a what's that dude's name? Because I traded I

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 2>traded helmets with Ken deal get the pro bo one year.

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think what year was that shell? I

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>don't even remember. Yeah, Uh, Pro Bowl tight end death no, no, no,

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>in like in the nineties. Yeah, Marcus Pollard, thank you

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>chat Marcus focus Pollard. I remember, I remember Marcus Pollard

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>and I ain't heard that name in a minute. Man.

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, y'all want these guys to come out

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 2>here and you spect tracing the thing, but go back

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>and look at your favorite quarterback and see what they

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 2>were throwing too. Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the start, y'all know who he throwing to. Right, he

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>had Tyreek, he had Sammy Watkins, he had Travis Kelsey.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Can I interest you in any of those guys. Two

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>of those guys are going to the Hall of Fame.

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Tyreek and Kelsey gonna go to the Hall of Fame.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what he was throwing to. Look at what Big

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Ben had to throw to. No, look what he's always

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 2>always had to throw to. Thank you.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Hey, The Pittsburgh Stealers are just like Cincinnati when it

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>comes to receivers. You know that, you have you noticed

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that they always have good receivers come through that channel,

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>no matter what. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh always.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had plaques, they had Hines. What's your guy

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>that won the Super Bowl? MVP? Santonio Holmes, Santonio Homes.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, bro, y'all think it seemed like that. I mean,

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, give give up Bryce Young those type

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 2>of weapons and let's see, let's see. You gotta get

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>a guy something to work with Marino. I think Marina

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 2>what uh? I think Duper and Clayton got there with

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Marino in eighty three. They might have came in eighty

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 2>It might have been eighty three. They might have got

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>there together, but you gotta get a guy something to

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>work with. Now, the volume