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Speaker 2: The Texas Longhorns beat the Arizona State while a sun

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Speaker 2: Devils and an OT thriller, a double OT thriller. The

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Speaker 2: number five Texas squad to the sixteen point lead in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, miss two field goals in the final

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Speaker 2: two minutes of regulation, and still somehow managed to escape

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Speaker 2: with the thirty nine thirty one double overtime win over

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Speaker 2: the number four seat Arizona State. In the pepot, the

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Speaker 2: check a late po o jo Hey, I know, sorry

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Speaker 2: as I just texted him congratulations. Try to get him

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Speaker 2: on here one of these for the next couple of days,

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Speaker 2: so maybe we can uh, we can we can get

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Speaker 2: him on there. He's like, they flying back now, so

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Speaker 2: or we would have had his ass over. He had

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Speaker 2: him on here tonight. But man, this was a game,

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Speaker 2: Oh Jo, this is how it's supposed to be. Ain't

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Speaker 2: nobody trying to see no double digit? Everybody win him

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Speaker 2: by double.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was listening the way it

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Speaker 1: started out. I thought it was on the state was

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Speaker 1: gonna get blown out.

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Speaker 2: Now a fourteen? What was the fourteen? What was the fourteen? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But the man, they jumped out on top of them

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Speaker 1: boy's head. I'm like, oh man, I'm fin the turn

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Speaker 1: of channel. I'm from the turn of the channel. And then

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Speaker 1: obviously things started to change, things started to move. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with college kickers. Hell, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers. You have

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Speaker 1: one job, You do one thing the entirey day of practice.

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Speaker 2: You kicked the ball. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Excess kicker almost cost them almost called Keith field goals

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Speaker 1: that could have seen the wind. Now they did win

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Speaker 1: the game, but ain't no telling what what could have happened.

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Speaker 1: Ain't I'm telling what could have happened that God damn

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Speaker 1: Cam He you say, young bull laugh.

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Speaker 2: Ned to run scatter boat scat scatack? Is it scatterb

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Speaker 2: because they were they were saying scatable, that's a scapboat.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, I'm gonnall him. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: call him scat packed. I'm call him scam scam cam

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Speaker 2: And he's nice boy. He now he's a singer too.

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Speaker 1: He coming out huh scatib cam scattable, okay, cam scat cam,

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Speaker 1: scaped back, scatterbo.

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Speaker 2: I know you're probably gonna see this. I know you're

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Speaker 2: probably watching the show. Listen. If you don't see it,

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Speaker 2: I know my son gonna let you know. For you

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Speaker 2: the real deal boy, you and me, he will see

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Speaker 2: huh yeah, I think he'll see you.

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Speaker 1: Well we have you know you belong you belong you.

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Speaker 1: He run the ball like he belonged to. He's supposed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be a rare. He's gonna be one

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Speaker 1: You know, you know he he's gonna be like I mean,

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Speaker 1: I give you a good name right here.

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Speaker 2: Tell me if you remember this Peyton Hillis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, little Peyton Hellis, don't keep up. Run hard if

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Speaker 2: Now, well you remember Hillis was in that backfield with

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Speaker 2: they would they were doing it, you matter Fadden and uh,

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Speaker 2: what's the guy's name? God, I know, y'all people talking

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Speaker 2: about Toby Gerhart. Uh the old cardinal Stanford Cardinal. What's up?

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Speaker 2: He was at Arkansas? Phelix Jones, Jones, Yeah, Derren McFadden,

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Speaker 2: Yes all they was in the backfield, yeah, yes, yes, Uh,

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Speaker 2: but this is where game is supposed to be. Quinn,

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Speaker 2: a big catch, Uh saym for buck forty nine, Helm

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Speaker 2: I think Arizona State's gonna be kicking himself. They kind

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Speaker 2: of I think they kind of let this one go.

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Speaker 2: You can't let that guy get over your head in

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Speaker 2: that situation, O Joe. That that that touch down, that

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Speaker 2: first touched down in ot Oh Jo, you can't, lady,

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Speaker 2: you mean that, you just that.

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Speaker 1: Should have been the number one rule from the coach.

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Speaker 1: Keep everything in front of you, everything, the.

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Speaker 2: Number rule, O Joe, the number one rule late in

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Speaker 2: the ball game. Nothing cheap, nothing deep, keeping it front

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Speaker 2: of eight. Nothing cheap, nothing deep. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: he catch it. I don't care if he catches fifty

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Speaker 2: that gets you in trouble. Ain't no way safety you

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Speaker 2: the last line of defense. If he's even with you,

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Speaker 2: you're wrong, mister rap he Oh Joe, it was thawed

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Speaker 2: down with the thirteen. Oh Joe, you cannot give that up.

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Speaker 2: You can't. Oh, oh Joe, my heels on the gold line.

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Speaker 2: I'm figuring about figure. I think they throw the hairburry,

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I throw the gold line by heels on

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Speaker 2: the gold line, knock get down knock get down. You're

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Speaker 2: not get maaed r I you cheap job. Man.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't even want to blame

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Speaker 1: player in that situation, you got to have some type

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Speaker 1: be you can't get beat, not in that situation at all.

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Speaker 1: And if if I am, let him make a great play,

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Speaker 1: but let me be in position, you don't make the play.

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Speaker 1: At least let me be in position and he have

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Speaker 1: to make a great play in or to catch that.

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Speaker 2: Man. I was like, oh my goodness, oh fourth and thirteen,

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Speaker 2: you give up that? Uh. But I think Arizona State

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Speaker 2: showed that they belong to Everybody was like, well, they

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Speaker 2: didn't belong that weak conference and they didn't do this,

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Speaker 2: and this team didn't do that. They played, they gave

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Speaker 2: Texas all they could definitely belong they and or oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: when you watch Quinn yours what you think you know?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: to me, if you have enough, if you have enough,

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Speaker 1: talent around you. Enough players at this kind of level,

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Speaker 1: any quarterback can look good. Uh so what kind of

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Speaker 1: quarterback is Huars Is this type of quarterback to go

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Speaker 1: to the NFL and elevate the talent around him? Where

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Speaker 1: is the kind of quarterback where he needs a talent

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Speaker 1: around him that to be able to elevate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't see him elevating anybody. I really don't.

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Speaker 2: And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back,

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Speaker 2: lets you know, come back where if you wanna come

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Speaker 2: back to Texas he gonna train.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him going to nothing to see the

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Speaker 1: field before with ars Man arch Yeah, oh no, I

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Speaker 1: mean he probably if he gonna come back, he's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna come back somewhere else. But I doubt it's Texas

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Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be arch manning out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've been reading I don't know if these

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Speaker 2: reports are true, O Joe, but I've been reading that

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Speaker 2: there's some some some team, some some college team got

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Speaker 2: six million dollars in n IL money for Okay. I

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Speaker 2: mean that's I just when I just watched him, I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 2: that ball that he threw that got picked. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out the lof the love that he loved it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the hospital ball, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know where he was storing it because

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Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out saying, okay, well

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Speaker 2: who what did you see? What did you what did you?

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Speaker 2: I know, what did happen on that play right there?

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Speaker 1: They ran it in practice multiple times, and in practice

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Speaker 1: it was open.

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Speaker 2: In practice, you know why it was open. You know

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Speaker 2: what they say. They tell the something the safety to do,

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Speaker 2: what jump the underneath so we could throw the ball

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what he did anyway, instead of understanding of

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Speaker 2: Because that's the that's what happens. What happens is we hey,

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Speaker 2: we want to throw the ball. Now the guy's running

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Speaker 2: the scout team say a safety, you dropped the crossing

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Speaker 2: come game time, hey, can you drop this over? Can

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Speaker 2: post behind your head. He gonna read it, right, dun,

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Speaker 2: you should read it. But you see what happens, don't Joe.

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Speaker 2: When you make your mind up pre snap that you're

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Speaker 2: throwing the ball, that's what happens. Yeah, that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: He had his mind made it. I'm throwing this post

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Speaker 2: no matter what. Bro Ain't no way you hell. You

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Speaker 2: read that and said, you know what, I'm throwing this

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Speaker 2: and then he throws it in like a pot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's gotta be on the line. But even if it

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Speaker 2: letter of the law, the Texas got targeted, but they

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Speaker 2: no targeting. But that was absolute targeting. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: other guy left his feet, he launched. They say, you

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Speaker 2: good time out there. Man. She scatter boo scatter thirty

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you can you can tell guy that

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Speaker 2: he could play. I played Georgia Southern. They were the

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Speaker 1: This is another conversation that I always like to have.

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Speaker 2: you got Garrett Wilson. Look at those d linemen from

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Speaker 2: Chase Young, the Nick Bosa, look at those quarterbacks justin

429
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Speaker 2: fields and you had rested soul. What's the guy that

430
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Speaker 2: lost his life tragically, Dwayne Atkins? You had the other quarterback.

431
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Speaker 2: And so you can understand why people like hold On,

432
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: come on, coach Day, you got this level of talent.

433
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Speaker 2: They had a top what top six, top seven pig

434
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Speaker 2: last year the offensive tackle position. Like coach Day, you

435
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 2: got this level of talent and you losing the Michigan

436
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: and you ain't got no national championship. But all would

437
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: be forgiven if he takes this thing and and and

438
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: and finish it out. But the Ohio State looked good today,

439
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: O Joe. They ran the ball well, they threw the

440
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: ball well, they stopped miss I mean, the high powered

441
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: offensive Oregon. It looks very It looked very pedestrian, very mundane.

442
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Speaker 2: Did listen. I don't know.

443
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I could be wrong, but I think I

444
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Speaker 1: think the week the week off, I think it did

445
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: more harm than good for him to be as flat

446
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: as they look today, as well as organ Is played

447
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: all season long, being the number one team in the country,

448
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: and the way they showed up to day, that had

449
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of russ. And not only

450
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: was it a little bit of russ, but it was

451
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: too late and there was no room for the rust

452
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: when you're playing somebody like Ohio State, who had a

453
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Speaker 1: point to prove losing the first time they met earlier

454
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Speaker 1: in the season, and that's exactly what they got. Jeremiah Smith.

455
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: He said ahead of time that if you played one

456
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Speaker 1: on one, hey, if you played one on one, you're

457
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to come me. He went out

458
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Speaker 1: there and it did exactly what he was supposed to

459
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Speaker 1: do and handle his business. The funny thing about it,

460
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Speaker 1: people don't. People right now are talking about Jeremiah Smith

461
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: and how great he is and how good he is,

462
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: and he's probably right now, even as a freshman, probably

463
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman.

464
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 1: I've been watching young Bull at shamanad down there in Miami.

465
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Speaker 1: You know, for a few years, he'd been like that

466
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Speaker 1: in literal league. He was like that at Ohio.

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Speaker 2: He is like that.

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Speaker 1: When he get drafted into the NFL, he's still gonna

469
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Speaker 1: be like that. He'd been like that for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Outside of that man, Ohio State looked very very well again,

471
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Speaker 1: hoping coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand

472
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: and for all the great players that have come through Ohio,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State they can have, they can hoist that trophy

474
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh c J. Stroud was a quarterback. You have CJ.

476
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Speaker 2: Shrowd no national championship, Justin Fields no national championship. Dwayne

477
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: Haskins no national championship. That's three quarterbacks. Take it in

478
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Speaker 2: the first now, o'lave first round pick, Gary Wilson, first

479
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Speaker 2: round pick Jackson Smith and JIGBA first round pick, Marvin Harrison,

480
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Speaker 2: junior first round pick, Chase Young, the number two pick,

481
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Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, the number two pick, Jeff Okudah Denzel Ward.

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Speaker 2: Come on, now, o Joe, come on. I mean people,

483
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: they make it seem like we just making stuff up.

484
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: You got that level of talent year in and year

485
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Speaker 2: out and you ain't won no national championship and people like,

486
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Speaker 2: oh oh they're being too hard rough and you lose

487
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: it to Michigan. I don't think I personally don't think

488
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Speaker 2: that's a stretch. When you got that level of talent

489
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Speaker 2: that's coming out year in and year and you're underachieved,

490
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: there's no other there, there's no other way around. O

491
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: Joe coach day. You did a phenomenal job of having

492
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Speaker 2: this team prepared and from the word jump, I have

493
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Speaker 2: a question, huh do you still is it?

494
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Speaker 1: Is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all

495
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Speaker 1: these quality players year in and you're out, Is it's

496
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Speaker 1: still unachievement simply because you haven't won the national championship.

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Speaker 2: But the seasons happen. Yes, ooe. Think about it. You

498
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: got offensive player the year, offensive player to your offensive

499
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Speaker 2: player the year. Think about you got quarterbacks C J.

500
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Speaker 2: Stroud justin fields and you had Dwayne Haskins insect session.

501
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Speaker 2: You think about you have Jaskins, Smith and Jake, but

502
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Speaker 2: you had Gary Well, you had a lobby. You had

503
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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Jr. In six session and a lot of

504
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: those guys played together. You had a Chase Young, you

505
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Speaker 2: had Nick bof A, jump O Cooter, Denzel Ward. Come on,

506
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Speaker 2: I'm bro, that's ten, bro, that's ten first round picks

507
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: right there. Man. I said the same thing about Coach Saban.

508
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic.

509
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: I asked Coach Saban this, if you had consistently lost

510
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: to Auburn and you got Julio and you got Calvin Ridley,

511
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: and you got Judy and you got Rugs, and you

512
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: got Waddle, and you got Devonte Smith, and you got

513
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: a Marik Cooper, and you got those quarterbacks, you got

514
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: to her, you got Young, you got what's the guy

515
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: that went to New England? Uh Jones? Mack John Matt Jones. Okay,

516
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: you got him. Now you got and plus you got

517
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: a what's the guy Derrick Henry? And you got n G. Harris,

518
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: you got Damien Harrick. Bro And I ain't even talking

519
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: about the defense. I ain't gonna talk about what they

520
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: and you don't win on national championship direct even after

521
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: a couple of years of coach and Alabama fans, y'all

522
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: know this. Even after a couple of years of not

523
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Speaker 2: winning the national championship after he had done one four

524
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: or five, they say coach Saban had lost his fastball.

525
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: That man had got four or five national championships, and

526
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: they saying that with the talent you got Cowinny Williams,

527
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Speaker 2: and you got Allen and you got all those guys.

528
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Speaker 2: SE made you better, A you better you paid when

529
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Speaker 2: you have that level of talent, O children, I mean,

530
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Speaker 2: think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put

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Speaker 2: out every single year. Ohio State ain't far behind. The

532
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: only difference is Alabama has has one in the last

533
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: fifteen years, has won six national championships, played for another three.

534
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Speaker 2: That's the difference between them.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I would love to hear espressing

536
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Speaker 1: the chat and then probably people that are gonna watch

537
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: this after the fact and hear us talk about this

538
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: and saying that Ohio State is under achieved based on

539
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Speaker 1: the level of talent that they've had in succession there

540
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Speaker 1: without winning the national championship. Us to hit rebuffles and

541
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: with the not excuses, but the reasons behind why they

542
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: having one will be and you know, always find a

543
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: way they come up with something. I don't want to

544
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Speaker 1: call them excuses, but there are valid reasons, depending on

545
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: what they may be. For whatever reason, I'm curious to

546
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: hear what they have to say.

547
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: Quin Ewers has received a six million dollar offer to

548
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL

549
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: Draft this spring. According to On three, multiple Power Forward

550
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: schools are working to get yours and the portal ahead

551
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: of the final of his final year of college eligibility.

552
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Six million for one year, Ojo, you got to come back.

553
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: He has to come back and continue to work on

554
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: his game because when you watch court, when you watch yours,

555
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: I need your play to pop out on the screen.

556
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: I needed to pop out when you watch it.

557
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in college, you watch to see extrid in college,

558
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: when you watch other quarterbacks like the cam Wards, they

559
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: pop out on screen.

560
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: There's something special about those individuals. Special. So if he

561
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: needs to come back another year, no matter, no matter

562
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: where it is, and you know, pop out on I

563
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: agree with you. I agree with you, O Joe. I

564
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but

565
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: I don't see special. I don't see I don't see

566
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Speaker 2: man a muscle, a guy that say, like boy, they

567
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Speaker 2: get him. He gonna great, He's gonna he's gonna drastically

568
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: change their fortunes. I don't see that. Now, let's see,

569
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: let's see. I mean he might come back and get better,

570
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: because nobody saw that. If you the ask teams that

571
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: were gonna look at Joe Burrow before he came back

572
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: for seen year, Joe Burrow didn't see it seemed special.

573
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Speaker 2: But he came back for that year. He was special.

574
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: Mac Jones. Hell, if Mac Jones don't come and get

575
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Speaker 2: that one year, Mac Jones, ain't no first ain't no

576
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: first round there Sometimes look, hey, I don't blame people like,

577
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: well look what yes, okay, now can't he make it happen?

578
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: You're throwing at Davonte. You got Naja, you got Wattle,

579
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: you know, you got a you got a very very

580
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: talented team. It just goes to show you just how

581
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: good he was because he kept Bryce Young on the bitch.

582
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: If we see Bryce Young the next year won the Heisman. Hey,

583
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: and also look at the talent this this would I

584
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: like about Bryce too.

585
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: Now we saw him, We saw Bryce win the Heisman,

586
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 1: but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him.

587
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, he got got to Carolina. You thought something was.

588
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: Wrong with him. Then he gets bench. He come back

589
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: out to getting benched. I don't know what the hell happened.

590
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what type of prayer he said. Now

591
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: he's back to playing great football. Looked like the Bryce

592
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Young we saw in college, even in losing. He's in

593
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Speaker 1: even in losing efforts at the team.

594
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: And as a quarterback. He looks completely totally different than

595
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: he did when he first All right, he did, he does.

596
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: They just need to give him from talent. If you

597
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: look at the quarterbacks that perform well, look at CJ. Stroud,

598
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: Look at what he was throwing the tang Dale, the

599
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Nico Collins, look at what he was throwing to. Okay,

600
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: look at Kayler Williams. He got Roman, Dudes, they first

601
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: round pick. He got DJ Moore, who just signed a

602
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: contract extension. He got Keenan Allen. Look at look at

603
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: what uh Daniels? Yeah, Jaydon look at what he's throwing to. Damn.

604
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, y'all want the man to come back? Hey,

605
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: I don't care. Even Peyton Peyton Manny had Marvin Harrison

606
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Speaker 2: when he got there. He had Marvin Harrison. He had

607
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: Ken Dilger, I mean, and he had Marshall fall crazy yes,

608
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Speaker 2: as a rookie. He had two first batlet Hall of

609
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Speaker 2: Famers as a rookie. That's a lucky Ken Dilga had

610
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Speaker 2: been to Pro Bowls. There's another I forget the guy named,

611
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, the other tight end. As a matter

612
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: of fact, the Calls had two tight ends to make

613
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Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. Mark what's his name? Uh, go back

614
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: and look at ninety Teddy stop scratching the couch. Uh.

615
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: I can't think of the other. The other brother, he

616
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: was a what's that dude's name? Because I traded I

617
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: traded helmets with Ken deal get the pro bo one year.

618
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what year was that shell? I

619
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Speaker 2: don't even remember. Yeah, Uh, Pro Bowl tight end death no, no, no,

620
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Speaker 2: in like in the nineties. Yeah, Marcus Pollard, thank you

621
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Speaker 2: chat Marcus focus Pollard. I remember, I remember Marcus Pollard

622
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Speaker 2: and I ain't heard that name in a minute. Man.

623
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

624
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, y'all want these guys to come out

625
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: here and you spect tracing the thing, but go back

626
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: and look at your favorite quarterback and see what they

627
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: were throwing too. Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became

628
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: the start, y'all know who he throwing to. Right, he

629
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: had Tyreek, he had Sammy Watkins, he had Travis Kelsey.

630
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Speaker 2: Can I interest you in any of those guys. Two

631
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: of those guys are going to the Hall of Fame.

632
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: Tyreek and Kelsey gonna go to the Hall of Fame.

633
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: That's what he was throwing to. Look at what Big

634
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Ben had to throw to. No, look what he's always

635
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: always had to throw to. Thank you.

636
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Speaker 1: Hey, The Pittsburgh Stealers are just like Cincinnati when it

637
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: comes to receivers. You know that, you have you noticed

638
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: that they always have good receivers come through that channel,

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Speaker 1: no matter what. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh always.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had plaques, they had Hines. What's your guy

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Speaker 2: that won the Super Bowl? MVP? Santonio Holmes, Santonio Homes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, bro, y'all think it seemed like that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, give give up Bryce Young those type

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Speaker 2: of weapons and let's see, let's see. You gotta get

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Speaker 2: a guy something to work with Marino. I think Marina

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Speaker 2: what uh? I think Duper and Clayton got there with

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Speaker 2: Marino in eighty three. They might have came in eighty

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Speaker 2: It might have been eighty three. They might have got

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Speaker 2: there together, but you gotta get a guy something to

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Speaker 2: work with. Now, the volume