WEBVTT - Second Date Update Classics: High School Holiday Hangout + Trial By Separation 

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<v Speaker 1>Because two is officially better than one. Welcome to your

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<v Speaker 1>second date classes. I see what you did there. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Brigg and Jeffrey in the morning. We're putting two

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<v Speaker 1>classics back to back for you so you can get

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you need to get done done today and just

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<v Speaker 1>have a little dose of second day on your Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>or the opposite. Don't do anything and just sit and

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<v Speaker 1>listen productive you know. Yeah, we don't judge you, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>just enjoy it starts right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Whenever I'm traveling to spend time with my

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<v Speaker 2>parents over the holidays, I always have one thing on

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<v Speaker 2>my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>How can I get out of spending time with my

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<v Speaker 2>parents over the holidays?

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<v Speaker 1>We're already thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and one of our listeners I think, had a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good idea, invite a guy over to your family's

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<v Speaker 2>house to take you away from them for a whole night.

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<v Speaker 2>No okay, But unfortunately for her, that idea backfired spectacularly.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and we're all going to find out what happened

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<v Speaker 2>when we do your second date update. Next second date

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<v Speaker 2>up date. You're going back home for the holidays can

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<v Speaker 2>be really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm so exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be great to reconnect with your siblings again,

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<v Speaker 2>your grandparents, relatives you haven't seen in a while. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're really lucky, you might even see someone from

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<v Speaker 2>your past and have a little holiday Hookupsaily not your

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<v Speaker 2>family and.

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<v Speaker 1>When everybody goes out yet, didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Your old pe coach reconnect and get the second base

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<v Speaker 2>or something?

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<v Speaker 1>No, he married, I think one of my other friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh too bad for you, Brooke, mister Chance. But one

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners, Simone, reconnected with someone recently. Not a

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<v Speaker 2>next boyfriend. It was just a guy from her high school.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm curious about how it went down because she's

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone right now, Simone. So was this a

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<v Speaker 2>fellow student or a faculty member?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it was not a faculty member.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Honestly, I hooked up with more guys from my

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<v Speaker 1>high school way post high school than I did in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. I was too dorky in high school. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to all I try. It's not that I didn't try.

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<v Speaker 2>Some are late and some skankers.

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<v Speaker 1>What we call it bloomers.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, as long as you get it done. So

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<v Speaker 2>someone who is this guy that you met up with?

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<v Speaker 3>So his name is Jack, and we reconnected over Facebook

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<v Speaker 3>because I had posted that I was coming home and

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<v Speaker 3>I was really excited to spend time with my family

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<v Speaker 3>and friends like the holidays, and I was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of give everybody a heads up that I went

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<v Speaker 3>to school with so we could try to plan something

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<v Speaker 3>and all catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like like a mini informal reunion almost. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And did you know that you wanted to hook

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<v Speaker 2>up with him immediately or did you want to wait

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<v Speaker 2>and see how it went?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the thing is that like it. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that we've never dated. We were always kind

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<v Speaker 3>of floating around in like neighboring circles, but we were

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<v Speaker 3>never super close.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and got it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was one of the first people to comment on

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<v Speaker 3>this post. Oh, I was like, Oh, this would be great,

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<v Speaker 3>would love to catch up. And I was like catch up, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do we have to talk about? Look like we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't you know, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know some people who stay in the hometown that you're from. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe need some outside influence everyone to watch.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, what she's saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you, I will not miss an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to show off my glow up.

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<v Speaker 1>So Okay, I got that good.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did you and Jack do when you met up?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is the thing. So we were texting for

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<v Speaker 3>a while until I got back and trying to make plans,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was staying with my family, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't we just make it easy. You can come

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<v Speaker 3>pick me up from my family's place and we'll go

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<v Speaker 3>wherever you want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so this feels more like a date than a

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<v Speaker 1>hangout if it's just you.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, Yeah, I guess so I think maybe I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if that was the intention, but things kind of

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<v Speaker 3>ended up taking slave turn and it wasn't really anybody's fault.

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<v Speaker 3>But he came to pick me up when I was fit.

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<v Speaker 3>I just finished dinner with my family, and my family

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, you know, why don't you come in

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<v Speaker 3>for a second, which I kind of gave him the

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<v Speaker 3>look of like you don't have to do this, But

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<v Speaker 3>he was very cool and came in and be all

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<v Speaker 3>we're just hanging It was really sweet, like we were

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<v Speaker 3>all hanging out for a while, and like because like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like he knew your family in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys weren't even.

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<v Speaker 5>Really pressure situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, if that happened to me, I would

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely not want to go inside there. I do not

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<v Speaker 2>want to spend my precious free time during the holidays

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<v Speaker 2>meeting some other person's family.

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<v Speaker 5>Meeting families, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But not people meeting mine and parents always love me

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we get it, Brook, You're amazing everybody person in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, and everyone wants to go. Their kids don't

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<v Speaker 2>like me, but they like Okay, Well, so what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with Jack?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so we're all talking and we ended up like

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<v Speaker 3>playing some games and everybody was played a.

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<v Speaker 1>Good time, so they full on like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't mean for that to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It just kind of did.

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<v Speaker 5>Playing the piano, singing carols together.

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<v Speaker 1>He was into it though, Yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will say this, my dad was a little tipsy,

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<v Speaker 3>which around the holidays is not a surprise. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was kind of ribbing them a little bit, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are your intentions with my daughter?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, let me go to the laundry

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<v Speaker 2>room and then I'll show you. Is that not how

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<v Speaker 2>your guys' family holidays?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I never had to take take my dad into the

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<v Speaker 1>laundry room.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the teacher I know, how did Jack handle the ribbing?

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<v Speaker 3>He just kind of laughed it off, and finally I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of pulled him aside and I was like, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we can get out of here whenever you need to,

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<v Speaker 3>like we already were here a lot longer than I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like, oh, I just got a text

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<v Speaker 3>from where my friends and they really need me, so

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<v Speaker 3>I actually I have to get going ye And he's like, well, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll catch up in a few days. And of course,

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<v Speaker 3>in my head, I'm like, did he really get a

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<v Speaker 3>text from his friend or I think that maybe he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like maybe he thought you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>just going out as friends, and then your dad is

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that you're a couple. Like it just it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of weirdness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree. And the way we left it was

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<v Speaker 3>we'll make more plans, we'll text and we'll figure it out,

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<v Speaker 3>and then just never heard back from him.

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<v Speaker 5>A complete ghost. It's not like he's stalling.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, Like I just he just went radio silent,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I don't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you crushing on him? Still? Like you still like him?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean especially too, like seeing how cool. He was

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<v Speaker 3>with paying out with my family for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>That's impressing.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I did have a weird thought though, like, while he

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<v Speaker 2>was bonding with your family, do you have any single

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<v Speaker 2>siblings or or single hot aunt don that maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>could have swooped in.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm the only girl. I have two brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's an option for him though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's a chance that someone could have

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<v Speaker 2>taken him from you, right from under your nose.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably some messed up family dynamics. If that's the case, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Called the holidays broke.

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<v Speaker 4>Things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's find out what really happened when we play

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<v Speaker 2>a song. Come back, call him and try and get

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<v Speaker 2>your second date update.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, hold on second date update. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>main rules of dating, and I think everybody knows this

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<v Speaker 2>is if you really like someone, you do not introduce

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<v Speaker 2>them to your family for at least three to four

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<v Speaker 2>years until you're one hundred percent sure they won't be

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<v Speaker 2>scared off.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say probably even pop out a few kids

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<v Speaker 2>with them before they meet the family, just to be safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you could end up like Simone who was so

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to go out with an old high school friend

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<v Speaker 2>named Jack till her family invited him inside during the holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>and look what happened. I mean, he ran away. Hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been heard from since that night.

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<v Speaker 5>They should have heard your advice first show.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we blaming the drunk dad? Is that where we're blaming?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no, we don't know who to blame.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where I'm leaning.

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<v Speaker 8>I think even though it's a joke, it's still very

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<v Speaker 8>intimidating to know your dad is even thinking that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such an old cliche joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, my gun, Yeah, Simon, do you wish that you

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't let him come inside that house that night?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, we know it's absolutely true the answer,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, or do you wish that your dad was funnier?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he thinks he's funny, which is way worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we're going to try and get

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<v Speaker 2>you a second chance.

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<v Speaker 6>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna call Jack and find out which member of

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<v Speaker 2>your family is the one to blame. Or maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was something that was totally unrelated.

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<v Speaker 7>I love.

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<v Speaker 5>We think it has to be the fame.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the holiday edition of Clue.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, is it the mom in the kitchen with

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<v Speaker 1>the butcher knife or Colonel Father.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to the bottom of this. I'm gonna Dilla's

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<v Speaker 2>number right now here we go. Hello, I nose brush

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<v Speaker 2>the microphone. Hey is this Jack?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, this is he.

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<v Speaker 1>You are all taking ready? I like Jack?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you see Jack. You're you're on the radio

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<v Speaker 2>right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I seem alert because I answer business calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh this is kind of a business call. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>your business.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye, your personal business with an old friend of yours

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<v Speaker 2>name Simone.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait, what is this about? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>This is about a segment we do on our show

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<v Speaker 2>called a second Date Update, and our listeners will reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to us sometimes and ask us to help them

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<v Speaker 2>reconnect with an old fling or an old date that

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<v Speaker 2>they went out with that they haven't heard from in

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<v Speaker 2>a while.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, but I'm not old.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not an old person.

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<v Speaker 1>Old people.

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<v Speaker 2>You answered a phone number that you didn't recognize that

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<v Speaker 2>is older.

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<v Speaker 1>So bald. Oh, Jack, I bet you're regretting it right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just, you know, I thought maybe something was

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<v Speaker 4>wrong with my car's extended warranty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Look, we all make mistakes, and your mistake was

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<v Speaker 2>answering this call. But we do want to get some

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<v Speaker 2>answers because Simone told us that you guys hung out

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<v Speaker 2>the other night, and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I'm sorry to I'm sorry to interrupt you, but

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<v Speaker 4>I just now I don't think I want to do this, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it because it wasn't supposed to be a date

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<v Speaker 1>with Simone? Is I supposed to just be more like

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<v Speaker 1>of a friend hang out.

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<v Speaker 4>Like no, no, no, no, no no no. I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 4>interested in Simone.

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<v Speaker 6>Well I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Interested was I mean, look, I know you're hesitant on

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it, and I understand that, but can you

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<v Speaker 2>put yourself in Simon's shoes here? Because she was really

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to spending time with you and reconnecting. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she had no intention of the night going

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<v Speaker 2>the way that it did, where you were invited into

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<v Speaker 2>her family's house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean she thought you. I mean, maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>read it wrong. The only reason you guys stayed there

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<v Speaker 1>was because she thought you were having a good time

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with her family and playing board games.

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<v Speaker 4>WHOA, you guys know a lot about what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Like date detectives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked to some run She told us about what

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<v Speaker 2>happened that night, and we were wondering if something happened

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<v Speaker 2>while you're in the house with her family that made you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, it was just well it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>It was just an uncomfortable situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, she feels bad for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well no, but just no, not not going in

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<v Speaker 4>and talking to her family.

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<v Speaker 6>Her family was great, nice and.

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<v Speaker 2>So great that maybe you hooked up with one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>What.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that was a theory that I had. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>that we can squash it right now, but yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>he can. Definitely, was the text that you got the

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<v Speaker 2>emergency text? Was that real or was that fake?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, it was not real. I did not I

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<v Speaker 4>did not see the emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>But she knew that. So don't feel bad admitting that. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was pretty obvious. What made you run

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<v Speaker 1>from the house.

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<v Speaker 4>So what made what made me need to leave is

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<v Speaker 4>I was having a nice chat with her mom and

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<v Speaker 4>as as we're talking, I look over and I see

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<v Speaker 4>some Christmas cards and I see one from Simone with

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<v Speaker 4>another guy and they're both like up together and it

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<v Speaker 4>was like a it looked like a you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>couple had sent a card and it was Simone and

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<v Speaker 4>this dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, she didn't mention anything about an ex boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously the card could have been sent out long before.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they broke up, Like, really do you send

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas card? Who brings a guy over to your house

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<v Speaker 1>with your family if you're dating someone else to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where you're sending Christmas cards together? Like, why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you just ask Simone? Then? Why wouldn't you ask her?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I just felt like, in order to not just

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<v Speaker 4>escalate things, I wanted to I just you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well you just wanted to jump to conclusions.

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<v Speaker 8>I know you just took pictures recently.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you don't want to have that awkward conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with her, but I kind of do right now because

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<v Speaker 2>she's on the other line listening and wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>asked an awkward, escalating question.

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<v Speaker 6>What I'm hi, you've been listen in this whole time.

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<v Speaker 6>This is like, this is so awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's kind of cool that you went to

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<v Speaker 4>these lengths to try to get a hold of me.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just, you know, I just this is just

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<v Speaker 4>really bizarre. So who is the guy? Come on, tell me?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you seeing nobody? Are you in a relationship?

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<v Speaker 2>Because like, okay, hold on, Jack, you're asking like five

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<v Speaker 2>different questions. Let's just let's do one question at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was gonna start what kind of sweater are

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<v Speaker 2>you wearing right now? Because that I might ease his

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<v Speaker 2>tension a little bit. The guy.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I can't believe you even saw that card.

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm so mad at my mom right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you dating that guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Not technically.

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<v Speaker 1>What your parents are wing wing Manny your side piece.

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<v Speaker 3>No, so listen, Okay, I'll be honest. That guy's is

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that I dated for a while, and we

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<v Speaker 3>always did these stupid Christmas cards and we're not exclusive.

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<v Speaker 3>We are not together. We hook up every once in

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<v Speaker 3>a while, but we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Not there's a gay, okay, but you promise you're not

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive with him? Oh, you're not exclusive and you send

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas cards out together? That seems yeah. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>More of a joke because we would do it every year,

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<v Speaker 3>so we kind of just kept up with the tradition.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we both didn't want our families hassling us at

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<v Speaker 3>the holidays for being single. So we were like, we

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<v Speaker 3>should just do a Christmas card anyway, and that backfired

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<v Speaker 3>so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just I'm actually, I mean, Simon, I really

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<v Speaker 4>want to be with somebody that's emotionally available and not

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<v Speaker 4>you know, still, even if it's not like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not exclusive, you're still seeing him. I just I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just not comfortable being with somebody who's seeing other people.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just, well, that's the thing, is like I

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<v Speaker 3>had a great time hanging out with you, and I

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<v Speaker 3>really want to get to know you better. And I

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<v Speaker 3>am not invested in this guy. Like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that I dated, and it was just I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have anybody else I was interested in, and it was just,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'll call him later today and tell him

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<v Speaker 3>that we can't see each other anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Jack, is that something that you'd be into, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you're willing to see her again, then we'll pay

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<v Speaker 2>for that date.

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<v Speaker 4>I have one question. Did you hook up with him

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<v Speaker 4>over the holidays?

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<v Speaker 2>Be honest here, Simon, did it happen? And what sweater

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<v Speaker 2>were you wearing at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't happen over the holidays, but it has happened recently.

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<v Speaker 2>All Jack, I need an answer from you. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think one more date with Simone? We'll pay for it?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so. Here's why.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a healthier why.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like you could have told me that you

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<v Speaker 4>were getting out of a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just I can't we get here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the holidays. Everybody's sad, we understand, Thank you freaking Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>In the morning, I was thinking, does that ever work

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<v Speaker 2>on our show? After the person says no, I'm not interested,

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<v Speaker 2>and they throw out one last ditch plea like hey

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<v Speaker 2>what if I break up with the other guy, will

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<v Speaker 2>you go out with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's like hail Mary?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what if I get a butt lift?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Or hey what if I put my dog down because

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<v Speaker 2>you're allergic? My god, it's always n.

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<v Speaker 1>You made the boyfriend sound like the best option.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't think of the time where that strategy

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<v Speaker 2>has ever worked, and she definitely gave it a try.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I just have this feeling that the guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the cards sweater boy doesn't know that they're not exclusive.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because anyone else's always like that the other one

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<v Speaker 8>is always like, what, wait, I thought you.

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<v Speaker 5>Were my girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I sent out Christmas cards for.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye Yeah, how does it get more intimate than that?

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<v Speaker 2>But clearly we're not going to be doing any update

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<v Speaker 2>with that couple anytime soon. But remember you can always

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<v Speaker 2>listen to any one of our second dates on YouTube

0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.640
<v Speaker 2>because we've got hundreds of them up right now, so

0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:28.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are actually choosing to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>our show that way. And remember you can always reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to us if you have a date that you

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<v Speaker 2>want us to get a hold of.

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<v Speaker 1>Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that forty seven percent of adults say

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<v Speaker 2>dating is much harder today than it was just ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Yeah, that's a lot now.

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<v Speaker 2>It explains how Brooke was able to trick somebody into

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<v Speaker 2>marrying her. Meanwhile, our own Alexis is still very single.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very, very lonely.

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<v Speaker 1>The odds that I'm going against Brook say that she's

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<v Speaker 1>more marriage material than what do you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just saying I'm shocked at what's happening. One

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners has been off the market for about

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<v Speaker 2>a decade now, and he's trying to wade back into

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<v Speaker 2>the slime pool of love.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get slimy, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Already the first person that he went out with is

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<v Speaker 2>not responding. So we're going to hop into that slime

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<v Speaker 2>pool with him and try to find out why when

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<v Speaker 2>we do your second date update, next second date update.

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<v Speaker 2>When you date online, some people connect over shared interests

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<v Speaker 2>or hobbies. Other people connect because they're both freaking hot.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of our listeners, Thomas, says he connected with

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<v Speaker 2>a woman online over their joint sadness. Oh something like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's suck to Thomas Thomas. Did you meet her on

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<v Speaker 2>tiarmatch dot com or was it the Kleenex club? Which

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<v Speaker 2>one was?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's cute. Well, that could go wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm not getting paid by any the services I use.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not gonna give any free advertising. But we did

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<v Speaker 6>meet online.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's the sadness you speak of? My friend?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know how you can put like whether you're

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<v Speaker 6>single or divorced. There's an option where you can put separated,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I thought I would be honest since the

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<v Speaker 6>divorce isn't finalized or anything, so I listed my status

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<v Speaker 6>as separated.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, why wouldn't you normally do that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I would normally tell the truth, That's what I do.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think sometimes people don't want to scare somebody off,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Yeah, it's I think it'd be a turnoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people are in the middle of something really messy,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just don't want to even swipe on them, like.

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<v Speaker 8>On Facebook when they're single, and people sometimes put it's complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's a mess.

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<v Speaker 5>You're obviously involved with somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>But some people think that's a turn on. There like

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<v Speaker 2>a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>People you usually want to date.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff well, I don't know. He says that he matched

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody that was separated too.

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<v Speaker 6>It sounds like, yes, her name is Celia and she

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<v Speaker 6>also had separated on her profile O bab. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 6>had a very nice smile. She had big curly hair.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a sucker perfose, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't think that was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>But awesome, Okay, that's good. The hair is also a

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<v Speaker 2>very good feature.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's it's a good start. Though I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to change the subjects real quick. It's a good start

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.200
<v Speaker 1>that you guys are going through. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how similar it is, but a similar life experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're coming in with understanding and you probably don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you have to explain a lot, right, Sure, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>That's kind of like prefaces into why I'm calling y'all.

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<v Speaker 6>We went on a date and this was my first

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<v Speaker 6>first date since the you know, well, my BBX wife. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and she's not a couple of guys like coffee or

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<v Speaker 6>something super casual, and so we you know, we went,

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<v Speaker 6>I got up by to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, what were you feeling?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Slow down, because this is the first date out of

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<v Speaker 1>your marriage.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me guess. Hold on, I'm a psychic. You were nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he could have been feeling excited.

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<v Speaker 8>Hold on, whatsychs is worth the money?

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<v Speaker 5>Tell us?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I went all out. You know, I got dressed

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<v Speaker 6>in the nines like Jim Carrey and dumbit dummar a tuxpedo.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, that doesn't sound nervous, no, of course, of course.

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you never know. You've been out of the dating

0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 1>game for a minute. Maybe you just didn't read the

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<v Speaker 1>room right anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean I thought that was positive that, you know,

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 6>I got a first date out of messaging someone over

0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 6>the Internet. So I mean that was you know, my

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.400
<v Speaker 6>uh start thought that was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well how did it go when you showed up? Like,

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 2>how was how was Celia?

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 5>The vie?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, aside from the usual kind of laughs and jokes,

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.159
<v Speaker 6>the crack the thing that we definitely bonded over. I

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 6>would say like fifty percent of the date was our

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.320
<v Speaker 6>situation that led us to being separated on you know,

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 6>both of us kind of talking about our personal life,

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:01.879
<v Speaker 6>you know.

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 2>But that's good.

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 8>That's good because normally, if you're on a date with

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.679
<v Speaker 8>someone who's just single, they won't relate and you wouldn't

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 8>dare bring it up or you know, because you don't

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 8>want to hear about it. But if you're both going

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 8>through it, it's like, no, please, I need someone.

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:14.359
<v Speaker 5>To talk to you about that.

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess that is key. You both have it in

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 2>common so you can bond over it. Yeah, Is that

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:19.880
<v Speaker 2>is that how it went?

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 6>I mean there definitely wasn't a pity party for us.

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 6>It was like bonding. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How many shots at tequila do you need in order

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 2>to get through that conversation?

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 6>But it's only like, I don't know, maybe one two.

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 6>Margarita's maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, that's good.

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:36.640
<v Speaker 1>So what I mean were you able to flirt too, though,

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>because if you're talking a lot about you know, your

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>exes and things, I.

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 6>Mean we didn't. I mean, no one stayed the night

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 6>at anybody's house or anything like that. But like I said,

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 6>I cracked some folks. You know, I got some genuine laughs.

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 6>So you know I count that out of flirting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, why do you want to call her back? I mean,

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe this was just your practice date right before you

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of I'm guessing time to make

0:23:58.680 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 1>up for right now?

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, why aren't you sleeping with everybody around town?

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Why are you sticking to one person? I'm just saying, like,

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 1>why why herd? Like, it's your first day.

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 6>Well, the first date I thought went well, so I'm

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 6>figuring that, you know, I might as well before I

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 6>go uh fishing to sea, as I might as well

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 6>make sure.

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 5>This one's off the book cut the line that was

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 5>differences and it doesn't matter the size of your worm.

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 5>By the way women love.

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>We didn't go to that. It's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, let's get back to the day. How did

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the night end?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, like I said, no, we stay everybody's house.

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 6>There was no making out or anything like that. Uh hug, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 6>there was a hug. But one thing that I think

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 6>is kind of concern that I would say is she

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 6>had mentioned that the reason of her separation was there

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 6>was cheating involved, and I could see how she did

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 6>not want you put out any kind of vulnerability, like,

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, to get herself for like like I'm trying

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 6>to be a player, which I'm not, you know, like

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:08.959
<v Speaker 6>I'm not trying to be. My intention was to get

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 6>over and go on a second date.

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>And did you guys make any like future plans. I

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>always think that's a good sign on a date.

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well we didn't nail I mean we didn't nail

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 6>down like hey, let's go miniature golfing, you know tomorrow.

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 6>We didn't do anything like that. It was like a

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 6>hug at the end of the night, and it was

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 6>I was like, make sure you get home safe and

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 6>then I'll see what you want to do. You know,

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 6>I'll hit you.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 5>So how was the hug.

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 8>Was it like a quick hug or was it like

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 8>a sensual long she smelled your hair.

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Kind of like you don't have to answer that if

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to me.

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>You just smelled people's hair on the first day ever.

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 6>Just it was just a nice hug, right, it was

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 6>just I think it's a the standard end of the night.

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:46.719
<v Speaker 8>You didn't like, rub your hands up and down.

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Details needed. I think you're just gonna play a song.

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back, We'll call Celia for you and try

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 2>and get your second date update.

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 6>All right, thank you?

0:25:56.080 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 2>All right, hold on man, okay. Indeed, stepping back on

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the dating scene, if they're going through a failed marriage,

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying things are probably different than the first time around.

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>This is not what you tell your friends if they

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>ever call you.

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to paint the scene like the people are older,

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 2>the drinks hit you harder, and the hugs are standard,

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>nothing more, nothing less. No one's smelling anybody's hair. Well,

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>that's what happened with one of our listeners, Thomas, who's

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 2>currently going through a separation himself, and so was his

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>date Celia. So naturally they talked a lot about their

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>situations and they were very open and vulnerable with each other,

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 2>which Thomas took as a good sign. But now Celia

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 2>is not responding to him, which Thomas is taking as

0:26:54.640 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 2>a bad sign. Way changed in that sense something never Yeah,

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>but Thomas, how you feeling?

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 6>Man? You guys gave it quite the lead up, no pressure,

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 6>second guests of myself not No.

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 5>We can keep that music going the whole time. It helps.

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what we never asked you is have

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you tried to get a hold of her?

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 6>I reached out to her, Yes, but I did not

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 6>receive any communication back. And I mean, I'm calling up

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 6>you guys because I feel like it went well and

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 6>so I'm trying to figure out what I do wrong.

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Folks, just brace yourself here. Because you're new to dating,

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you may hear some things you don't want to hear.

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that you're not good at it.

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And as Brooke would say, there's a whole city

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 2>of people to sleep.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>With, and you should exactly actually exactly what I would condone.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>So let's give Celia callin. We'll see if she answers

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and what she has to say. Let's do this. Here

0:27:49.320 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 2>we go. Hello, is it Celia?

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 2>I was really excited there, Celia. I wasn't sure if

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 2>you're going to answer. Hey, we're Brook and Jeffrey in

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the morning from the radio.

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 6>Hey.

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 5>Cool, Now she's not answering.

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Who was second to process. This is probably a lot, right, Yeah.

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 6>I don't who is it.

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're so we're a morning radio show. We're called

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we're hoping that

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 2>you'll be a part of a segment with us here

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>called a second date update.

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 7>Oh no, thank you, that's okay, No, no.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>No, no, Celia, it's not a bad thing.

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>We're actually calling on behalf of one of our listeners

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>who you went out on a date with a very

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>hot date. Sounded like his name's Thomas.

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, okay.

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh that didn't sound Oh that didn't sound good. Thomas.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I think is clueless because that was not a good

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>response about Thomas.

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 7>I mean, like, we had a really nice dinner and

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 7>I was hopeful, but we kind of got into a

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 7>personal conversation about our situations, our separations, our marriages and

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 7>that sort of thing. It was a big red flag

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 7>for me that kind of popped up.

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>So are you saying just you guys discussing the marital

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>situations was a red flag or something specifically about the conversation.

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.959
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was more. It was more specific. It was

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 7>like I told him like, basically, my situation ended because

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 7>of cheating, and I was the cheater. I was unfaithful.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting, So he didn't share a lot of your

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:45.959
<v Speaker 1>your story at all. He just said that there was

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like that's why your marriage ended. He did, we just

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>assumed that it was your ex But okay, that's fine.

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>What was a red flag about that?

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 7>Well, for me, the red flag was like he acted

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 7>really weird, like it was just normal and he was

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 7>understanding and like trying to make excuses for me, and

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:11.479
<v Speaker 7>I'm thinking, and this guy is kind of weak.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>What what do you mean he was.

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 7>Making excuses for you, Like, oh, well, I guess he

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 7>wasn't paying you attention or you know, he wanted.

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Him to be mean to you and said, You're.

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 7>Like, it's more like I just laid what I had

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 7>out there on the table, and his reaction was just

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 7>a little too normal for me, Like I told him

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 7>the real like listen, I cheated and he was just like, oh,

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 7>that's okay, Okay.

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Well maybe he cheated in his relationship too, I mean,

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>or he's just awkward and doesn't know what to say

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>there because he doesn't want to insult his date.

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>He liked you, well, what did you want to hear

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 2>from him? What would have been a good response in

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 2>your mind?

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 7>I wanted him to be disgusted by it because I

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 7>think it's really horrible what I did it.

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, maybe he was.

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Like inside, I sure he felt that way, but he

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to say to you on a first date

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>in you disgust me.

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Relationships are like really complicated, and you know, sometimes it's

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't I'm just saying, maybe he's just being an understanding

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>person and trying to be empathetic to what you were

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>going through.

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 7>Sounds like maybe you should go out with him. You

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 7>guys are both understanding to understand.

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you're playing the statistics, chances are she already

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 2>has so cheated.

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is like this guy, like he doesn't

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>attack you for being really vulnerable and really honest, because

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that's probably a hard thing to share with people. I

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>would imagine you're.

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 7>Not listening to me.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 3>I deserved it. Like he didn't even anything.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see what you're saying, Like he's siding with

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>the person who cheated rather than siding with the person

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>who got cheated off.

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, not even questioning it, like got you.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he could yell at you now, yeah, because this

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 2>would be a great chance for him to lay into you,

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>because he's actually on the other line listening.

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, I think I've had enough.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>No, no, you understand he's already there listening right now

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and wants to talk to you.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 6>All right, So let me get this straight. You wanted

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 6>me to be like doctor Phil or Steve Harvey or something.

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 6>It just lace into you. How does that make sense

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 6>on a first date?

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 7>First of all, I didn't even know you were on

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 7>the line. Secondly, I goasted you for a reason and

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 7>I really don't even want to talk to you.

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh is this the vibe you got Thomas when you

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>guys were out?

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 6>Nothing like this. This is like Medusa head. I don't

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 6>know who this woman is.

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 7>I'm just being honest with you. I feel like you

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 7>could have at least questioned why I did it? Like

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 7>I need someone to hold me accountable for all.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 6>Right, you want some criticism? Are you go my nails?

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<v Speaker 6>My nails look good? Yeah? Your nails don't look goodils.

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<v Speaker 1>Do cost a lot? Don't suck?

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<v Speaker 7>You didn't go there? Did you like? My nails look amazing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? I think he's just trying to give you what

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<v Speaker 2>you want there, Celia.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not reading what she wants very well, though, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I will give her that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if I'm reading exactly what she wants.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you want to be punished next time.

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<v Speaker 5>Bring an iron fist to the date and put the

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<v Speaker 5>hammer down.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why he should have practiced dating more. Hunt

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<v Speaker 1>have called the first person. A lot of people out

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<v Speaker 1>till you find you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But he could sleep around with other people and cheat

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<v Speaker 2>on Celia and then we could send them out on

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<v Speaker 2>a second date.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think that's what she wants either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I could ask Celia, would you be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in that? Would you like to go out one

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<v Speaker 2>more time?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm good with him. I thought I made that clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you did, you did. You're very clear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just my job to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay. I don't know if Thomas is upset about

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<v Speaker 1>that though.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm said about how this went, especially considering she's

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<v Speaker 6>out of her mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're talking the way that she likes.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I really appreciate you guys having me on. But

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<v Speaker 6>if I learned anything from this, it don't date anyone

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<v Speaker 6>who says separated in a profile.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess broking Jeffrey in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. People have been saying forever that dating today is hard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's time after that call to start saying

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<v Speaker 2>dating is impossible because even if you're trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>understanding and see the other person's perspective, give them the

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<v Speaker 2>benefit of the doubt, that scene as a weakness and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't like you for it. And that's why this

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<v Speaker 2>ended with no date at the end.

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<v Speaker 8>Anybody out there who's single, including myself, let's just all

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<v Speaker 8>give up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a winning at.

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<v Speaker 4>Learn.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's so sad.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I just hate to die alone.

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<v Speaker 1>You will find your love. You don't have to base

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<v Speaker 1>it off this lady. This lady was a little out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think what it does say is that even

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<v Speaker 1>if you were the cheater, there are people who will

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<v Speaker 1>forgive you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy was really nice.

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<v Speaker 5>To forgiving and that was the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, you wouldn't date him either.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see why she hated you, though, Brook got.

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<v Speaker 6>Sappy.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, but you know.

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<v Speaker 6>It.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, Look, we do want to help connect you

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<v Speaker 2>if you still do believe in love out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you do, you can always email the show. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>call the person who wasn't calling you back