Speaker 1: Because two is officially better than one. Welcome to your
Speaker 1: second date classes. I see what you did there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Brigg and Jeffrey in the morning. We're putting two
Speaker 1: classics back to back for you so you can get
Speaker 1: whatever you need to get done done today and just
Speaker 1: have a little dose of second day on your Saturday
Speaker 1: or the opposite. Don't do anything and just sit and
Speaker 1: listen productive you know. Yeah, we don't judge you, all right,
Speaker 1: just enjoy it starts right now.
Speaker 2: I know. Whenever I'm traveling to spend time with my
Speaker 2: parents over the holidays, I always have one thing on
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: How can I get out of spending time with my
Speaker 2: parents over the holidays?
Speaker 1: We're already thinking about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of our listeners I think, had a
Speaker 2: pretty good idea, invite a guy over to your family's
Speaker 2: house to take you away from them for a whole night.
Speaker 2: No okay, But unfortunately for her, that idea backfired spectacularly.
Speaker 2: Oh and we're all going to find out what happened
Speaker 2: when we do your second date update. Next second date
Speaker 2: up date. You're going back home for the holidays can
Speaker 2: be really fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm so exciting.
Speaker 2: It can be great to reconnect with your siblings again,
Speaker 2: your grandparents, relatives you haven't seen in a while. And
Speaker 2: if you're really lucky, you might even see someone from
Speaker 2: your past and have a little holiday Hookupsaily not your
Speaker 2: family and.
Speaker 1: When everybody goes out yet, didn't.
Speaker 2: Your old pe coach reconnect and get the second base
Speaker 2: or something?
Speaker 1: No, he married, I think one of my other friends.
Speaker 2: Oh too bad for you, Brooke, mister Chance. But one
Speaker 2: of our listeners, Simone, reconnected with someone recently. Not a
Speaker 2: next boyfriend. It was just a guy from her high school.
Speaker 2: And I'm curious about how it went down because she's
Speaker 2: on the phone right now, Simone. So was this a
Speaker 2: fellow student or a faculty member?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was not a faculty member.
Speaker 1: Okay, Honestly, I hooked up with more guys from my
Speaker 1: high school way post high school than I did in
Speaker 1: high school. I was too dorky in high school. Nobody
Speaker 1: wanted to all I try. It's not that I didn't try.
Speaker 2: Some are late and some skankers.
Speaker 1: What we call it bloomers.
Speaker 2: All right, as long as you get it done. So
Speaker 2: someone who is this guy that you met up with?
Speaker 3: So his name is Jack, and we reconnected over Facebook
Speaker 3: because I had posted that I was coming home and
Speaker 3: I was really excited to spend time with my family
Speaker 3: and friends like the holidays, and I was trying to
Speaker 3: kind of give everybody a heads up that I went
Speaker 3: to school with so we could try to plan something
Speaker 3: and all catch up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like like a mini informal reunion almost. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And did you know that you wanted to hook
Speaker 2: up with him immediately or did you want to wait
Speaker 2: and see how it went?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: So that's the thing is that like it. This is
Speaker 3: a guy that we've never dated. We were always kind
Speaker 3: of floating around in like neighboring circles, but we were
Speaker 3: never super close.
Speaker 1: Okay, and got it.
Speaker 3: He was one of the first people to comment on
Speaker 3: this post. Oh, I was like, Oh, this would be great,
Speaker 3: would love to catch up. And I was like catch up, Like,
Speaker 3: what do we have to talk about? Look like we
Speaker 3: didn't you know, you.
Speaker 1: Know some people who stay in the hometown that you're from. Yes,
Speaker 1: maybe need some outside influence everyone to watch.
Speaker 5: Yes, what she's saying.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I will not miss an opportunity
Speaker 3: to show off my glow up.
Speaker 1: So Okay, I got that good.
Speaker 2: So what did you and Jack do when you met up?
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing. So we were texting for
Speaker 3: a while until I got back and trying to make plans,
Speaker 3: and I was staying with my family, so I was like,
Speaker 3: why don't we just make it easy. You can come
Speaker 3: pick me up from my family's place and we'll go
Speaker 3: wherever you want to go.
Speaker 1: Oh, so this feels more like a date than a
Speaker 1: hangout if it's just you.
Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, I guess so I think maybe I don't
Speaker 3: know if that was the intention, but things kind of
Speaker 3: ended up taking slave turn and it wasn't really anybody's fault.
Speaker 3: But he came to pick me up when I was fit.
Speaker 3: I just finished dinner with my family, and my family
Speaker 3: was like, oh, you know, why don't you come in
Speaker 3: for a second, which I kind of gave him the
Speaker 3: look of like you don't have to do this, But
Speaker 3: he was very cool and came in and be all
Speaker 3: we're just hanging It was really sweet, like we were
Speaker 3: all hanging out for a while, and like because like.
Speaker 1: It's not like he knew your family in high school.
Speaker 1: You guys weren't even.
Speaker 5: Really pressure situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, if that happened to me, I would
Speaker 2: absolutely not want to go inside there. I do not
Speaker 2: want to spend my precious free time during the holidays
Speaker 2: meeting some other person's family.
Speaker 5: Meeting families, yeah.
Speaker 1: But not people meeting mine and parents always love me
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: Okay, we get it, Brook, You're amazing everybody person in
Speaker 2: the world, and everyone wants to go. Their kids don't
Speaker 2: like me, but they like Okay, Well, so what happened
Speaker 2: with Jack?
Speaker 3: Well, so we're all talking and we ended up like
Speaker 3: playing some games and everybody was played a.
Speaker 1: Good time, so they full on like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't mean for that to happen.
Speaker 3: It just kind of did.
Speaker 5: Playing the piano, singing carols together.
Speaker 1: He was into it though, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: And I will say this, my dad was a little tipsy,
Speaker 3: which around the holidays is not a surprise. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he was kind of ribbing them a little bit, like,
Speaker 3: what are your intentions with my daughter?
Speaker 2: I know, I know, let me go to the laundry
Speaker 2: room and then I'll show you. Is that not how
Speaker 2: your guys' family holidays?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I never had to take take my dad into the
Speaker 1: laundry room.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just the teacher I know, how did Jack handle the ribbing?
Speaker 3: He just kind of laughed it off, and finally I
Speaker 3: kind of pulled him aside and I was like, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: we can get out of here whenever you need to,
Speaker 3: like we already were here a lot longer than I thought.
Speaker 3: And he was like, oh, I just got a text
Speaker 3: from where my friends and they really need me, so
Speaker 3: I actually I have to get going ye And he's like, well, well,
Speaker 3: we'll catch up in a few days. And of course,
Speaker 3: in my head, I'm like, did he really get a
Speaker 3: text from his friend or I think that maybe he didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like maybe he thought you guys were
Speaker 1: just going out as friends, and then your dad is
Speaker 1: assuming that you're a couple. Like it just it feels
Speaker 1: like a lot of weirdness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. And the way we left it was
Speaker 3: we'll make more plans, we'll text and we'll figure it out,
Speaker 3: and then just never heard back from him.
Speaker 5: A complete ghost. It's not like he's stalling.
Speaker 3: No, no, Like I just he just went radio silent,
Speaker 3: and so I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: Are you crushing on him? Still? Like you still like him?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean especially too, like seeing how cool. He was
Speaker 3: with paying out with my family for a little bit.
Speaker 5: That's impressing.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: I did have a weird thought though, like, while he
Speaker 2: was bonding with your family, do you have any single
Speaker 2: siblings or or single hot aunt don that maybe like
Speaker 2: could have swooped in.
Speaker 3: No, I'm the only girl. I have two brothers.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's an option for him though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a chance that someone could have
Speaker 2: taken him from you, right from under your nose.
Speaker 1: Probably some messed up family dynamics. If that's the case, it's.
Speaker 2: Called the holidays broke.
Speaker 4: Things happen.
Speaker 2: But let's find out what really happened when we play
Speaker 2: a song. Come back, call him and try and get
Speaker 2: your second date update.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you?
Speaker 2: All right, hold on second date update. One of the
Speaker 2: main rules of dating, and I think everybody knows this
Speaker 2: is if you really like someone, you do not introduce
Speaker 2: them to your family for at least three to four
Speaker 2: years until you're one hundred percent sure they won't be
Speaker 2: scared off.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I would say probably even pop out a few kids
Speaker 2: with them before they meet the family, just to be safe.
Speaker 2: Or you could end up like Simone who was so
Speaker 2: supposed to go out with an old high school friend
Speaker 2: named Jack till her family invited him inside during the holidays,
Speaker 2: and look what happened. I mean, he ran away. Hasn't
Speaker 2: been heard from since that night.
Speaker 5: They should have heard your advice first show.
Speaker 1: Are we blaming the drunk dad? Is that where we're blaming?
Speaker 2: Or no, we don't know who to blame.
Speaker 5: That's where I'm leaning.
Speaker 8: I think even though it's a joke, it's still very
Speaker 8: intimidating to know your dad is even thinking that.
Speaker 1: It's such an old cliche joke.
Speaker 2: Really, my gun, Yeah, Simon, do you wish that you
Speaker 2: hadn't let him come inside that house that night?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we know it's absolutely true the answer,
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I mean, or do you wish that your dad was funnier?
Speaker 3: I mean he thinks he's funny, which is way worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we're going to try and get
Speaker 2: you a second chance.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna call Jack and find out which member of
Speaker 2: your family is the one to blame. Or maybe it
Speaker 2: was something that was totally unrelated.
Speaker 7: I love.
Speaker 5: We think it has to be the fame.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like the holiday edition of Clue.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is it the mom in the kitchen with
Speaker 1: the butcher knife or Colonel Father.
Speaker 2: Let's get to the bottom of this. I'm gonna Dilla's
Speaker 2: number right now here we go. Hello, I nose brush
Speaker 2: the microphone. Hey is this Jack?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yes, this is he.
Speaker 1: You are all taking ready? I like Jack?
Speaker 2: I know you see Jack. You're you're on the radio
Speaker 2: right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I seem alert because I answer business calls.
Speaker 1: Uh this is kind of a business call. It's about
Speaker 1: your business.
Speaker 2: Ye, your personal business with an old friend of yours
Speaker 2: name Simone.
Speaker 6: Wait, what is this about? What's going on?
Speaker 2: This is about a segment we do on our show
Speaker 2: called a second Date Update, and our listeners will reach
Speaker 2: out to us sometimes and ask us to help them
Speaker 2: reconnect with an old fling or an old date that
Speaker 2: they went out with that they haven't heard from in
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 6: Okay, but I'm not old.
Speaker 4: I'm not an old person.
Speaker 1: Old people.
Speaker 2: You answered a phone number that you didn't recognize that
Speaker 2: is older.
Speaker 1: So bald. Oh, Jack, I bet you're regretting it right now.
Speaker 4: I was just, you know, I thought maybe something was
Speaker 4: wrong with my car's extended warranty.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, we all make mistakes, and your mistake was
Speaker 2: answering this call. But we do want to get some
Speaker 2: answers because Simone told us that you guys hung out
Speaker 2: the other night, and you.
Speaker 4: Know, I'm sorry to I'm sorry to interrupt you, but
Speaker 4: I just now I don't think I want to do this, Okay.
Speaker 1: Is it because it wasn't supposed to be a date
Speaker 1: with Simone? Is I supposed to just be more like
Speaker 1: of a friend hang out.
Speaker 4: Like no, no, no, no, no no no. I'm definitely
Speaker 4: interested in Simone.
Speaker 6: Well I was.
Speaker 2: Interested was I mean, look, I know you're hesitant on
Speaker 2: talking about it, and I understand that, but can you
Speaker 2: put yourself in Simon's shoes here? Because she was really
Speaker 2: looking forward to spending time with you and reconnecting. And
Speaker 2: I mean she had no intention of the night going
Speaker 2: the way that it did, where you were invited into
Speaker 2: her family's house.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean she thought you. I mean, maybe she
Speaker 1: read it wrong. The only reason you guys stayed there
Speaker 1: was because she thought you were having a good time
Speaker 1: hanging out with her family and playing board games.
Speaker 4: WHOA, you guys know a lot about what happened.
Speaker 1: Like date detectives.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: We talked to some run She told us about what
Speaker 2: happened that night, and we were wondering if something happened
Speaker 2: while you're in the house with her family that made you.
Speaker 4: No, No, it was just well it wasn't.
Speaker 6: It was just an uncomfortable situation.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, she feels bad for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well no, but just no, not not going in
Speaker 4: and talking to her family.
Speaker 6: Her family was great, nice and.
Speaker 2: So great that maybe you hooked up with one of them.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was a theory that I had. I'm glad
Speaker 2: that we can squash it right now, but yeah, so
Speaker 2: he can. Definitely, was the text that you got the
Speaker 2: emergency text? Was that real or was that fake?
Speaker 4: No? No, it was not real. I did not I
Speaker 4: did not see the emergency.
Speaker 1: But she knew that. So don't feel bad admitting that. Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was pretty obvious. What made you run
Speaker 1: from the house.
Speaker 4: So what made what made me need to leave is
Speaker 4: I was having a nice chat with her mom and
Speaker 4: as as we're talking, I look over and I see
Speaker 4: some Christmas cards and I see one from Simone with
Speaker 4: another guy and they're both like up together and it
Speaker 4: was like a it looked like a you know, a
Speaker 4: couple had sent a card and it was Simone and
Speaker 4: this dude.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, she didn't mention anything about an ex boyfriend,
Speaker 1: but obviously the card could have been sent out long before.
Speaker 1: And then they broke up, Like, really do you send
Speaker 1: Christmas card? Who brings a guy over to your house
Speaker 1: with your family if you're dating someone else to a
Speaker 1: point where you're sending Christmas cards together? Like, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you just ask Simone? Then? Why wouldn't you ask her?
Speaker 4: Because I just felt like, in order to not just
Speaker 4: escalate things, I wanted to I just you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, well you just wanted to jump to conclusions.
Speaker 8: I know you just took pictures recently.
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to have that awkward conversation
Speaker 2: with her, but I kind of do right now because
Speaker 2: she's on the other line listening and wants to be
Speaker 2: asked an awkward, escalating question.
Speaker 6: What I'm hi, you've been listen in this whole time.
Speaker 6: This is like, this is so awkward.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of cool that you went to
Speaker 4: these lengths to try to get a hold of me.
Speaker 4: But I just, you know, I just this is just
Speaker 4: really bizarre. So who is the guy? Come on, tell me?
Speaker 6: Are you seeing nobody? Are you in a relationship?
Speaker 2: Because like, okay, hold on, Jack, you're asking like five
Speaker 2: different questions. Let's just let's do one question at a time.
Speaker 1: Who's the guy?
Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna start what kind of sweater are
Speaker 2: you wearing right now? Because that I might ease his
Speaker 2: tension a little bit. The guy.
Speaker 3: First of all, I can't believe you even saw that card.
Speaker 3: I I'm so mad at my mom right now.
Speaker 2: Why are you dating that guy?
Speaker 3: Not technically.
Speaker 1: What your parents are wing wing Manny your side piece.
Speaker 3: No, so listen, Okay, I'll be honest. That guy's is
Speaker 3: a guy that I dated for a while, and we
Speaker 3: always did these stupid Christmas cards and we're not exclusive.
Speaker 3: We are not together. We hook up every once in
Speaker 3: a while, but we're.
Speaker 1: Not there's a gay, okay, but you promise you're not
Speaker 1: exclusive with him? Oh, you're not exclusive and you send
Speaker 1: Christmas cards out together? That seems yeah. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: More of a joke because we would do it every year,
Speaker 3: so we kind of just kept up with the tradition.
Speaker 3: Because we both didn't want our families hassling us at
Speaker 3: the holidays for being single. So we were like, we
Speaker 3: should just do a Christmas card anyway, and that backfired
Speaker 3: so funny.
Speaker 4: So I just I'm actually, I mean, Simon, I really
Speaker 4: want to be with somebody that's emotionally available and not
Speaker 4: you know, still, even if it's not like you know,
Speaker 4: you're not exclusive, you're still seeing him. I just I'm
Speaker 4: just not comfortable being with somebody who's seeing other people.
Speaker 3: So I just, well, that's the thing, is like I
Speaker 3: had a great time hanging out with you, and I
Speaker 3: really want to get to know you better. And I
Speaker 3: am not invested in this guy. Like I said, it's
Speaker 3: somebody that I dated, and it was just I didn't
Speaker 3: have anybody else I was interested in, and it was just,
Speaker 3: you know, I'll call him later today and tell him
Speaker 3: that we can't see each other anymore.
Speaker 2: Really, Jack, is that something that you'd be into, because
Speaker 2: if you're willing to see her again, then we'll pay
Speaker 2: for that date.
Speaker 4: I have one question. Did you hook up with him
Speaker 4: over the holidays?
Speaker 2: Be honest here, Simon, did it happen? And what sweater
Speaker 2: were you wearing at the time.
Speaker 3: It didn't happen over the holidays, but it has happened recently.
Speaker 2: All Jack, I need an answer from you. What do
Speaker 2: you think one more date with Simone? We'll pay for it?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Here's why.
Speaker 1: It's a healthier why.
Speaker 4: I feel like you could have told me that you
Speaker 4: were getting out of a relationship.
Speaker 3: And I just I can't we get here.
Speaker 2: It's the holidays. Everybody's sad, we understand, Thank you freaking Jeffrey.
Speaker 2: In the morning, I was thinking, does that ever work
Speaker 2: on our show? After the person says no, I'm not interested,
Speaker 2: and they throw out one last ditch plea like hey
Speaker 2: what if I break up with the other guy, will
Speaker 2: you go out with me?
Speaker 1: Then it's like hail Mary?
Speaker 2: Or what if I get a butt lift?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or hey what if I put my dog down because
Speaker 2: you're allergic? My god, it's always n.
Speaker 1: You made the boyfriend sound like the best option.
Speaker 2: I just can't think of the time where that strategy
Speaker 2: has ever worked, and she definitely gave it a try.
Speaker 1: God, I just have this feeling that the guy on
Speaker 1: the cards sweater boy doesn't know that they're not exclusive.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because anyone else's always like that the other one
Speaker 8: is always like, what, wait, I thought you.
Speaker 5: Were my girlfriend?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I sent out Christmas cards for.
Speaker 2: Ye Yeah, how does it get more intimate than that?
Speaker 2: But clearly we're not going to be doing any update
Speaker 2: with that couple anytime soon. But remember you can always
Speaker 2: listen to any one of our second dates on YouTube
Speaker 2: because we've got hundreds of them up right now, so
Speaker 2: a lot of people are actually choosing to listen to
Speaker 2: our show that way. And remember you can always reach
Speaker 2: out to us if you have a date that you
Speaker 2: want us to get a hold of.
Speaker 1: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 2: Did you know that forty seven percent of adults say
Speaker 2: dating is much harder today than it was just ten
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, that's a lot now.
Speaker 2: It explains how Brooke was able to trick somebody into
Speaker 2: marrying her. Meanwhile, our own Alexis is still very single.
Speaker 2: I'm very, very lonely.
Speaker 1: The odds that I'm going against Brook say that she's
Speaker 1: more marriage material than what do you say?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying I'm shocked at what's happening. One
Speaker 2: of our listeners has been off the market for about
Speaker 2: a decade now, and he's trying to wade back into
Speaker 2: the slime pool of love.
Speaker 1: Don't get slimy, and.
Speaker 2: Already the first person that he went out with is
Speaker 2: not responding. So we're going to hop into that slime
Speaker 2: pool with him and try to find out why when
Speaker 2: we do your second date update, next second date update.
Speaker 2: When you date online, some people connect over shared interests
Speaker 2: or hobbies. Other people connect because they're both freaking hot.
Speaker 2: But one of our listeners, Thomas, says he connected with
Speaker 2: a woman online over their joint sadness. Oh something like that. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's suck to Thomas Thomas. Did you meet her on
Speaker 2: tiarmatch dot com or was it the Kleenex club? Which
Speaker 2: one was?
Speaker 1: Oh that's cute. Well, that could go wrong.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not getting paid by any the services I use.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna give any free advertising. But we did
Speaker 6: meet online.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the sadness you speak of? My friend?
Speaker 6: Well, you know how you can put like whether you're
Speaker 6: single or divorced. There's an option where you can put separated,
Speaker 6: and so I thought I would be honest since the
Speaker 6: divorce isn't finalized or anything, so I listed my status
Speaker 6: as separated.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, why wouldn't you normally do that?
Speaker 6: Well, I would normally tell the truth, That's what I do.
Speaker 6: But I think sometimes people don't want to scare somebody off,
Speaker 6: you know, Yeah, it's I think it'd be a turnoff.
Speaker 1: Like people are in the middle of something really messy,
Speaker 1: like you just don't want to even swipe on them, like.
Speaker 8: On Facebook when they're single, and people sometimes put it's complicated.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a mess.
Speaker 5: You're obviously involved with somebody.
Speaker 2: But some people think that's a turn on. There like
Speaker 2: a disaster.
Speaker 1: People you usually want to date.
Speaker 2: Jeff well, I don't know. He says that he matched
Speaker 2: with somebody that was separated too.
Speaker 6: It sounds like, yes, her name is Celia and she
Speaker 6: also had separated on her profile O bab. Yeah, she
Speaker 6: had a very nice smile. She had big curly hair.
Speaker 6: I'm a sucker perfose, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Didn't think that was coming.
Speaker 2: But awesome, Okay, that's good. The hair is also a
Speaker 2: very good feature.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's a good start. Though I'm going
Speaker 1: to change the subjects real quick. It's a good start
Speaker 1: that you guys are going through. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how similar it is, but a similar life experience.
Speaker 1: So you're coming in with understanding and you probably don't
Speaker 1: feel like you have to explain a lot, right, Sure, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 6: That's kind of like prefaces into why I'm calling y'all.
Speaker 6: We went on a date and this was my first
Speaker 6: first date since the you know, well, my BBX wife. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and she's not a couple of guys like coffee or
Speaker 6: something super casual, and so we you know, we went,
Speaker 6: I got up by to eat.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, what were you feeling?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Slow down, because this is the first date out of
Speaker 1: your marriage.
Speaker 5: Let me guess. Hold on, I'm a psychic. You were nervous.
Speaker 1: No, he could have been feeling excited.
Speaker 8: Hold on, whatsychs is worth the money?
Speaker 5: Tell us?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I went all out. You know, I got dressed
Speaker 6: in the nines like Jim Carrey and dumbit dummar a tuxpedo.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: Okay, that doesn't sound nervous, no, of course, of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know. You've been out of the dating
Speaker 1: game for a minute. Maybe you just didn't read the
Speaker 1: room right anymore.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I thought that was positive that, you know,
Speaker 6: I got a first date out of messaging someone over
Speaker 6: the Internet. So I mean that was you know, my
Speaker 6: uh start thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well how did it go when you showed up? Like,
Speaker 2: how was how was Celia?
Speaker 5: The vie?
Speaker 6: You know, aside from the usual kind of laughs and jokes,
Speaker 6: the crack the thing that we definitely bonded over. I
Speaker 6: would say like fifty percent of the date was our
Speaker 6: situation that led us to being separated on you know,
Speaker 6: both of us kind of talking about our personal life,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: But that's good.
Speaker 8: That's good because normally, if you're on a date with
Speaker 8: someone who's just single, they won't relate and you wouldn't
Speaker 8: dare bring it up or you know, because you don't
Speaker 8: want to hear about it. But if you're both going
Speaker 8: through it, it's like, no, please, I need someone.
Speaker 5: To talk to you about that.
Speaker 2: I guess that is key. You both have it in
Speaker 2: common so you can bond over it. Yeah, Is that
Speaker 2: is that how it went?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean there definitely wasn't a pity party for us.
Speaker 6: It was like bonding. Yeah.
Speaker 2: How many shots at tequila do you need in order
Speaker 2: to get through that conversation?
Speaker 6: But it's only like, I don't know, maybe one two.
Speaker 6: Margarita's maybe.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: So what I mean were you able to flirt too, though,
Speaker 1: because if you're talking a lot about you know, your
Speaker 1: exes and things, I.
Speaker 6: Mean we didn't. I mean, no one stayed the night
Speaker 6: at anybody's house or anything like that. But like I said,
Speaker 6: I cracked some folks. You know, I got some genuine laughs.
Speaker 6: So you know I count that out of flirting.
Speaker 1: Okay, why do you want to call her back? I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe this was just your practice date right before you
Speaker 1: you got a lot of I'm guessing time to make
Speaker 1: up for right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, why aren't you sleeping with everybody around town?
Speaker 1: Why are you sticking to one person? I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: why why herd? Like, it's your first day.
Speaker 6: Well, the first date I thought went well, so I'm
Speaker 6: figuring that, you know, I might as well before I
Speaker 6: go uh fishing to sea, as I might as well
Speaker 6: make sure.
Speaker 5: This one's off the book cut the line that was
Speaker 5: differences and it doesn't matter the size of your worm.
Speaker 5: By the way women love.
Speaker 1: We didn't go to that. It's not true.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, let's get back to the day. How did
Speaker 2: the night end?
Speaker 6: You know, like I said, no, we stay everybody's house.
Speaker 6: There was no making out or anything like that. Uh hug, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: there was a hug. But one thing that I think
Speaker 6: is kind of concern that I would say is she
Speaker 6: had mentioned that the reason of her separation was there
Speaker 6: was cheating involved, and I could see how she did
Speaker 6: not want you put out any kind of vulnerability, like,
Speaker 6: you know, to get herself for like like I'm trying
Speaker 6: to be a player, which I'm not, you know, like
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to be. My intention was to get
Speaker 6: over and go on a second date.
Speaker 1: And did you guys make any like future plans. I
Speaker 1: always think that's a good sign on a date.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well we didn't nail I mean we didn't nail
Speaker 6: down like hey, let's go miniature golfing, you know tomorrow.
Speaker 6: We didn't do anything like that. It was like a
Speaker 6: hug at the end of the night, and it was
Speaker 6: I was like, make sure you get home safe and
Speaker 6: then I'll see what you want to do. You know,
Speaker 6: I'll hit you.
Speaker 5: So how was the hug.
Speaker 8: Was it like a quick hug or was it like
Speaker 8: a sensual long she smelled your hair.
Speaker 2: Kind of like you don't have to answer that if
Speaker 2: you don't want to me.
Speaker 1: You just smelled people's hair on the first day ever.
Speaker 6: Just it was just a nice hug, right, it was
Speaker 6: just I think it's a the standard end of the night.
Speaker 8: You didn't like, rub your hands up and down.
Speaker 2: Details needed. I think you're just gonna play a song.
Speaker 2: We'll come back, We'll call Celia for you and try
Speaker 2: and get your second date update.
Speaker 6: All right, thank you?
Speaker 2: All right, hold on man, okay. Indeed, stepping back on
Speaker 2: the dating scene, if they're going through a failed marriage,
Speaker 2: I'm saying things are probably different than the first time around.
Speaker 1: This is not what you tell your friends if they
Speaker 1: ever call you.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to paint the scene like the people are older,
Speaker 2: the drinks hit you harder, and the hugs are standard,
Speaker 2: nothing more, nothing less. No one's smelling anybody's hair. Well,
Speaker 2: that's what happened with one of our listeners, Thomas, who's
Speaker 2: currently going through a separation himself, and so was his
Speaker 2: date Celia. So naturally they talked a lot about their
Speaker 2: situations and they were very open and vulnerable with each other,
Speaker 2: which Thomas took as a good sign. But now Celia
Speaker 2: is not responding to him, which Thomas is taking as
Speaker 2: a bad sign. Way changed in that sense something never Yeah,
Speaker 2: but Thomas, how you feeling?
Speaker 6: Man? You guys gave it quite the lead up, no pressure,
Speaker 6: second guests of myself not No.
Speaker 5: We can keep that music going the whole time. It helps.
Speaker 1: Do you know what we never asked you is have
Speaker 1: you tried to get a hold of her?
Speaker 6: I reached out to her, Yes, but I did not
Speaker 6: receive any communication back. And I mean, I'm calling up
Speaker 6: you guys because I feel like it went well and
Speaker 6: so I'm trying to figure out what I do wrong.
Speaker 1: Folks, just brace yourself here. Because you're new to dating,
Speaker 1: you may hear some things you don't want to hear.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that you're not good at it.
Speaker 2: Okay, And as Brooke would say, there's a whole city
Speaker 2: of people to sleep.
Speaker 1: With, and you should exactly actually exactly what I would condone.
Speaker 2: So let's give Celia callin. We'll see if she answers
Speaker 2: and what she has to say. Let's do this. Here
Speaker 2: we go. Hello, is it Celia?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was really excited there, Celia. I wasn't sure if
Speaker 2: you're going to answer. Hey, we're Brook and Jeffrey in
Speaker 2: the morning from the radio.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 5: Cool, Now she's not answering.
Speaker 1: Who was second to process. This is probably a lot, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't who is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so we're a morning radio show. We're called
Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we're hoping that
Speaker 2: you'll be a part of a segment with us here
Speaker 2: called a second date update.
Speaker 7: Oh no, thank you, that's okay, No, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, Celia, it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 2: We're actually calling on behalf of one of our listeners
Speaker 2: who you went out on a date with a very
Speaker 2: hot date. Sounded like his name's Thomas.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Oh that didn't sound Oh that didn't sound good. Thomas.
Speaker 1: I think is clueless because that was not a good
Speaker 1: response about Thomas.
Speaker 7: I mean, like, we had a really nice dinner and
Speaker 7: I was hopeful, but we kind of got into a
Speaker 7: personal conversation about our situations, our separations, our marriages and
Speaker 7: that sort of thing. It was a big red flag
Speaker 7: for me that kind of popped up.
Speaker 2: So are you saying just you guys discussing the marital
Speaker 2: situations was a red flag or something specifically about the conversation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was more. It was more specific. It was
Speaker 7: like I told him like, basically, my situation ended because
Speaker 7: of cheating, and I was the cheater. I was unfaithful.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, So he didn't share a lot of your
Speaker 1: your story at all. He just said that there was
Speaker 1: like that's why your marriage ended. He did, we just
Speaker 1: assumed that it was your ex But okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2: What was a red flag about that?
Speaker 7: Well, for me, the red flag was like he acted
Speaker 7: really weird, like it was just normal and he was
Speaker 7: understanding and like trying to make excuses for me, and
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, and this guy is kind of weak.
Speaker 2: What what do you mean he was.
Speaker 7: Making excuses for you, Like, oh, well, I guess he
Speaker 7: wasn't paying you attention or you know, he wanted.
Speaker 1: Him to be mean to you and said, You're.
Speaker 7: Like, it's more like I just laid what I had
Speaker 7: out there on the table, and his reaction was just
Speaker 7: a little too normal for me, Like I told him
Speaker 7: the real like listen, I cheated and he was just like, oh,
Speaker 7: that's okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: Well maybe he cheated in his relationship too, I mean,
Speaker 1: or he's just awkward and doesn't know what to say
Speaker 1: there because he doesn't want to insult his date.
Speaker 2: He liked you, well, what did you want to hear
Speaker 2: from him? What would have been a good response in
Speaker 2: your mind?
Speaker 7: I wanted him to be disgusted by it because I
Speaker 7: think it's really horrible what I did it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe he was.
Speaker 2: Like inside, I sure he felt that way, but he
Speaker 2: didn't want to say to you on a first date
Speaker 2: in you disgust me.
Speaker 1: Relationships are like really complicated, and you know, sometimes it's
Speaker 1: doesn't I'm just saying, maybe he's just being an understanding
Speaker 1: person and trying to be empathetic to what you were
Speaker 1: going through.
Speaker 7: Sounds like maybe you should go out with him. You
Speaker 7: guys are both understanding to understand.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're playing the statistics, chances are she already
Speaker 2: has so cheated.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is like this guy, like he doesn't
Speaker 1: attack you for being really vulnerable and really honest, because
Speaker 1: that's probably a hard thing to share with people. I
Speaker 1: would imagine you're.
Speaker 7: Not listening to me.
Speaker 3: I deserved it. Like he didn't even anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, I see what you're saying, Like he's siding with
Speaker 2: the person who cheated rather than siding with the person
Speaker 2: who got cheated off.
Speaker 7: Yeah, not even questioning it, like got you.
Speaker 2: Maybe he could yell at you now, yeah, because this
Speaker 2: would be a great chance for him to lay into you,
Speaker 2: because he's actually on the other line listening.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I think I've had enough.
Speaker 2: No, no, you understand he's already there listening right now
Speaker 2: and wants to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: All right, So let me get this straight. You wanted
Speaker 6: me to be like doctor Phil or Steve Harvey or something.
Speaker 6: It just lace into you. How does that make sense
Speaker 6: on a first date?
Speaker 7: First of all, I didn't even know you were on
Speaker 7: the line. Secondly, I goasted you for a reason and
Speaker 7: I really don't even want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Oh is this the vibe you got Thomas when you
Speaker 1: guys were out?
Speaker 6: Nothing like this. This is like Medusa head. I don't
Speaker 6: know who this woman is.
Speaker 7: I'm just being honest with you. I feel like you
Speaker 7: could have at least questioned why I did it? Like
Speaker 7: I need someone to hold me accountable for all.
Speaker 6: Right, you want some criticism? Are you go my nails?
Speaker 6: My nails look good? Yeah? Your nails don't look goodils.
Speaker 1: Do cost a lot? Don't suck?
Speaker 7: You didn't go there? Did you like? My nails look amazing?
Speaker 2: Okay? I think he's just trying to give you what
Speaker 2: you want there, Celia.
Speaker 1: He's not reading what she wants very well, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: I will give her that.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm reading exactly what she wants.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you want to be punished next time.
Speaker 5: Bring an iron fist to the date and put the
Speaker 5: hammer down.
Speaker 1: This is why he should have practiced dating more. Hunt
Speaker 1: have called the first person. A lot of people out
Speaker 1: till you find you right now.
Speaker 2: But he could sleep around with other people and cheat
Speaker 2: on Celia and then we could send them out on
Speaker 2: a second date.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's what she wants either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could ask Celia, would you be
Speaker 2: interested in that? Would you like to go out one
Speaker 2: more time?
Speaker 7: I'm good with him. I thought I made that clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did, you did. You're very clear.
Speaker 2: It's just my job to ask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. I don't know if Thomas is upset about
Speaker 1: that though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm said about how this went, especially considering she's
Speaker 6: out of her mind.
Speaker 2: Now you're talking the way that she likes.
Speaker 6: Well, I really appreciate you guys having me on. But
Speaker 6: if I learned anything from this, it don't date anyone
Speaker 6: who says separated in a profile.
Speaker 1: I guess broking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 2: Man. People have been saying forever that dating today is hard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's time after that call to start saying
Speaker 2: dating is impossible because even if you're trying to be
Speaker 2: understanding and see the other person's perspective, give them the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt, that scene as a weakness and
Speaker 2: they don't like you for it. And that's why this
Speaker 2: ended with no date at the end.
Speaker 8: Anybody out there who's single, including myself, let's just all
Speaker 8: give up.
Speaker 2: That's a winning at.
Speaker 4: Learn.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's so sad.
Speaker 5: Okay, I just hate to die alone.
Speaker 1: You will find your love. You don't have to base
Speaker 1: it off this lady. This lady was a little out there,
Speaker 1: and I think what it does say is that even
Speaker 1: if you were the cheater, there are people who will
Speaker 1: forgive you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That guy was really nice.
Speaker 5: To forgiving and that was the problem.
Speaker 1: You see, you wouldn't date him either.
Speaker 2: I could see why she hated you, though, Brook got.
Speaker 6: Sappy.
Speaker 2: My god, but you know.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 2: But no, Look, we do want to help connect you
Speaker 2: if you still do believe in love out there, and
Speaker 2: if you do, you can always email the show. We'll
Speaker 2: call the person who wasn't calling you back