WEBVTT - Patriots Draft Prospect Review: Running Backs 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.880 This is the Draft Prospect Review podcast on Patriots dot 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:04.600 Com Radio. 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:06.280 Welcome to an NFL draft. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.440 The Draft Prospect Review podcast is your source for all 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.319 the latest news and information on the NFL Draft. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.520 The New England Patriots like now. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.440 Here to preview the running backs the writers of Patriots 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:19.000 dot Com. 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.480 Back here at Jillett Stadium front of the Draft Podcast Review. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.680 We're going to talk about running backs today, a little 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.600 bit more of a glamour position, although not first round 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.240 glamour if you want to go by the recent NFL 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.040 draft history. But there are some guys in this draft, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.360 one in particular, that's getting a lot of buzz around 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.840 New England, and running back is always one of those 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:46.400 polarizing positions. Don't say that too fast, you pop your 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.680 p's and sound silly, but b Jon Robinson out of 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.960 Texas is a guy that a lot of people really 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.720 I haven't really heard anybody who's not very high in 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:03.760 this prospect. The the debate comes with if you take him, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.880 how early do you take him and how much of 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.800 an impact does he have on your team? And some people, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:13.160 some of the higher profile draft knicks, have mocked him 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.959 to the Patriots at fourteen, so I want to talk 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.399 about Jon Robinson. First, I'll let you guys go at it, 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:23.399 and then I want to talk about realistic everybody else expectations. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.120 For the Patriots. So let's talk about Jon Robinson. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.640 Well, I think a lot of us were just, you know, 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.520 surprised to see people mocking him to the Patriots. I 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.679 mean it's a mocker, Yeah, it's a mockery. But he's 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.039 you know, he's an outstanding player. So when you say, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.039 just generally, what does the Patriots offense need? I think 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.880 they need playmakers, They need guys who can do special things. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:40.520 I don't think they have, you know, any of those 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.319 guys really right now. So in that regard, I guess 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:44.920 I understand it. But I think you're just going to 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:46.520 get to the point in the draft where someone will 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.800 take him mid first round, late first round, somewhere and there, 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.800 and everyone will be like, well, they got to steal, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.800 They got to steal because they were willing to get. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.880 You know, what will actually look like on the field, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.120 How reliant on that player will they become? Will they 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.600 become you know the Giants with Saiquan Will they become 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.480 the Derrick Henry Kunt of dependent Titans? We'll see, but 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.440 I think he'll he'll make a really great addition to 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.800 some team and he'll have an impact, He'll change the 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.480 dynamic of an offense somewhere along that line. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.200 I mean, he's a beast, but do you really need him, Like, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.080 you don't end up in a situation where you have 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.519 the fifth year option and you're stuck with this great player, 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.959 but you know he kind of hampered your future with him. 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.280 But I mean, as Mike said, he'd be great anywhere 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:22.640 he goes. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.519 So yeah, I just don't think the Patriots are in 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.000 a position to make a pick like this. If this 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.520 was the Dynasty era of Patriots and Tom Brady was 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.480 still here and they still had the roster all figured 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.760 out and everything, and they wanted to add Bejon Robinson 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.799 as the cherry on top to everything else, then that's fantastic. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.160 I would be all for it. It's similar to how 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.200 the Niners traded for Christian McCaffrey. Right, they have everything else, 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.280 but they just needed that one more thing to kind 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.120 of get them over the top, so they went out 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.640 and got McCaffrey. The Patriots have too many immediate holes 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.560 at other positions on this roster that we've talked about 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.360 at nauseum for six months. It feels like now that 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.600 it just doesn't make make much sense from a positional 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.040 value standpoint to take Bejon. I would also have mentioned 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.320 you mentioned Derrick Henry's Titans. I think that's the model 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.120 of what you maybe hope to become if you're gonna 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.480 center it all around and running back, and is that 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.440 really is that really the direction that we all want 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.639 them to take the team in, and all want them 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.119 to take the offense in where you're so heavily reliant 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:26.200 on the running back being dominant and running for two 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.960 thousand yards and then making your play action passing game ridiculous, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.000 and all these types of things that went into those 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:32.760 Titans teams. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.120 I just I just can't help but imagine, like what 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:36.560 he would do with the Bills. You know, a team 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.680 that hasn't really looked interested in running the ball, hasn't 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.000 been all of a sudden, they've got a running game 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.200 that's gonna that would totally change their dynamic. So in 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:44.960 a team like that, he's a great fit and I 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.200 and it makes total sense to him. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.360 See I look at him as the way Evan said 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.560 with McCaffrey you know that team that has one missing 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.760 piece and whether that's a if that's a running back, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.480 then then find and I can. This is one of 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.960 those where like I often sort of clap back against 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.680 the uh, well, he wouldn't have been he wouldn't have 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.000 worked for the Patriots. But this is one that I 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.600 think is accurate in that regard. I think he'd be 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.320 a really good player no matter where he goes. We 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.320 all just you know, I agree with everything you guys 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.120 just said. But for the Patriots, they need more than 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.120 just another you know, running back. They need a lot 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.760 of stuff to get more dynamic on offense. And another 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.960 team might get him and it might put him over 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:30.960 the top, whether it's Buffalo. I mean, I think they 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.640 kind of want to turn it over to James Cook 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.440 and have Damian Harris be there a little short yardage 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.680 guy and maybe be more productive in the red zone. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.279 But you know, if he goes to like a Kansas City, 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.320 it gives him a different dimension. And I could see 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.760 it now I can hear like my boys on my shows, 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.640 you know, the Patriots couldn't used a guy like that 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.559 or whatever. It's not the same. It's not the same. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.680 I think a really good offense that's looking for one piece. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:04.760 Corey Dillon in right, you know, like it works, but 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.080 I don't think it's necessarily gonna have the same impact. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.400 I think you'd be a great player for the Patriots 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.200 with vermondre Stevenson. Don't think it would have the same impact. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.280 I'd rather see if they're gonna go for a back 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.920 Jamiir Gibbs, I think a little bit later, you know, now, 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.400 maybe he doesn't go that much later. Maybe he's a 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:21.920 first round pick too and you. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:22.520 Can't get him. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.960 But I think if you're going to get a running back, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:26.720 you know me, you know my feelings on running backs 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.120 in general, do that on your own. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.440 I love Gibbs. I think he's such a player. You 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.520 have to keep in mind. You know, we talk so 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:33.120 much about. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.679 Say Flowers and you know, slot guys just match up pieces, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.400 and you know, he's a running back. Yeah, but I 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.120 also think with Bill O'Brien, knowing what he can do, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.840 he's a matchup piece too, and maybe, you know, maybe 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.000 more versatile than like a James White could be, but 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.480 could be not that they want a three down running back, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.400 but could be you know, that kind of player that 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.359 could impact the game in so many different ways that 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.440 he could play with So with Gibbs, for me, that's 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:54.560 what's most intriguing of all. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.680 Right, Hey, we didn't get one of the top slot receivers. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.359 You know, if you can't get Save Flowers, is it 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.280 really do you really go down to like the Josh 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.480 Downs of the world, or do you consider somebody like Gibbs. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:03.560 I think that's a conversation. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.040 So let me just set you guys up. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.520 Wont to set the table for you guys and let 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.640 it rip for you know, the next five minutes or so. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.080 That's the high end running backs that are available. I 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:16.120 think we all agree, really good players, probably not the 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:20.960 smartest picks for the Patriots at fourteen. So we remindri 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.240 Stevenson year three, he's the guy. They clearly need some 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.560 help for him. Last year we saw him wear down 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.600 toward the end when Damien Harris wasn't available. They need 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.920 to replace Damien Harris. They have James Robinson, some sketchy 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.520 injury history there, so not necessarily a guy that you 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.480 rely on. They have two young guys and Kevin Harris 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:44.760 and Pierre Strong. Okay, running back is probably a secondary need. 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.880 Can we all agree on that. Yep, yes, okay, So 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.039 how early are you guys willing to take a running 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.800 back and then give me some examples of guys that 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.080 maybe catch your eye. I have one guy who I 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.680 absolutely love. I'll save him if you guys don't mention hum. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.800 So, I think I've had one rule about running back 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.479 sinceays Bijon stuff came out, and that is it just 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.400 can't be the first pick in the draft. I can't 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.440 stomach that. If they take a running back with the 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.440 first pick in the draft, I'm out. Now. If they 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.840 take Jamiir Gibbs with their second pick in the draft, 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.200 then I'm okay with that. But I actually think that 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:21.320 there's a slight chance. I'm not saying it's a high chance. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.360 I think there's a slight chance that Jamiir Gibbs the 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.560 first running back off the board because his ability in 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.360 the passing game and his speed. He's just a different 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.320 kind of back than Bijon Robinson. Robinson's the type of guy. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.720 He's a Derrick Henry. He's gonna have to carry the 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.400 ball three hundred times a year to really maximize his impact, 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.840 whereas a guy like Jamiir Gibbs is kind of like 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.520 what Mike was talking about is just a matchup weapon 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.520 that you find space for him, and he's gonna make 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.680 big plays happen. A little bit more of a twenty 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.640 twenty three running back than Bijon is And I think 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.320 there's a chance at a team that is very, very 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:01.240 pass heavy, like a Kansas City or like Cincinnati, or 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.920 like a Buffalo that doesn't necessarily look at their roster 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.440 and say we're going to run it fifty to fifty, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.880 We're going to try to throw it still. I could 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.240 see Gibbs being that type of guy. He's got one 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.640 of the best. You know, he he goes zero to 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.280 sixty faster than anybody I've seen in a long time. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.080 You know, he's got that ability to just put his 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.080 foot in the ground and go. Now, if you want 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.640 to talk about the other running backs, I think there's 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:28.720 a couple that that stand out in that middle round area, 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.960 you know, maybe the third to the fifth let's call 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.520 it uh Taji Spears from Tulane's a fun player. I 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.080 think he's just I think he's a little bit Deon 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.920 Lewis e maybe a little bit bigger. I love him, Yeah, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.280 absolutely love him. He was great at the Senior Bowl. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.079 He's got that jump cut ability to just make guys 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.840 missing the hole and just there's just evidence of him 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.520 just making guys flat out with. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.240 You know, watching him in the Senior Bowl. He had 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:54.920 one where it was like a ninety degree cut. It 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.640 was like he just stopped and then he was going 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:57.480 right Like. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:58.600 Believe it or not. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.840 I watched him play for two lane, and the guy 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.600 is incredible. It's not the most Uh, it's not the 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.679 most talented team. And I watched them play against teams 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.640 that I thought were more skilled. Central Florida a little bit. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.640 It I think Houston, maybe Cincinnati, I'm not sure if 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.640 I saw saw that one, but Central Florida definitely. And 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.640 he just carries. He carries the offense. He's a small guy, 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.600 but he can catch passes. Uh. He'd be the guy 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.360 that I would look for, you know, in the middle, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.920 somewhere in the middle of the draft. If you could 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.840 get him in the fourth round, might be, might be. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.800 A little so last year, that was when the running 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.360 on running backs happened, was in the fourth rounds when 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.600 the Patriots drafted Pierre Strong and Damon Pierce in Houston. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.160 Like that's when that whole run started, and I think 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.439 a guy like Spears is probably gonna be the first 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.839 one in that that run. I think Roshawan Johnson from 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.160 Texas to is Beijon's backup, has a lot of the 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.800 same running qualities as Bijeon. He just doesn't bring it 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.760 in the passing game like Bejon does, so he's somebody 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.720 that if they wanted to truly replace Damien Harris's skill 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.120 set in the offense. I think Johnson has also a 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.880 chance to be a better pro because he's gonna get 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.480 more opportunities as a bro. And then there's a couple 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.440 of other guys later, But those are the two guys 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.920 that I would say in those in the fourth round 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.920 when there's that run at running backs like there seems 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.719 to be every draft now, Spears, Roshan Johnson, I think 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.160 those guys are are guys that stand out. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.520 I really. I think fourth round, fifth round is a 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.000 sweet spot just you know, get good value there. Eric 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.600 Gray and Kenny McIntosh McIntosh McIntosh the really stick out 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.800 to me. Yeah. McIntosh. The thing with him is he 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.800 was stuck behind a lot of stars at Georgia, so 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.120 I think there's a lot of untapped potential there and 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.120 Eric Gray Boomer sooner, you know, just very clean out 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:47.920 of the backfield. Icy can catch the ball, and I 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.559 really think that's what the Patriots need back there. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:50.959 I think that's what I look at at look at 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.199 is you know, guys who have some receiving ability. Is 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.520 as much as you know, Tome Montgomery coming back seem like, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.920 you know, maybe was penciled into that role for last year, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.719 played one game, got hurt, you know, never really saw 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.840 it out of Pierre Strong. Seemed almost more you know, 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.720 like Pierre Strong's more of a runner than that. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.120 That pass catcher we thought he might be. 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.920 But I gotta throw Duce induce Vaughan. Right, Yeah, but 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.880 similar thing, you know, an undersize, kind of explosive, dynamic 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:14.880 little toy to play with. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.800 I don't know if they're willing to invest in that. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.480 At what point you've had JJ Taylor here for a while, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:21.679 he hasn't really been able to so. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.760 At least shows to me that like they're not totally 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.120 averse to looking at a little guy like that. But 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.319 I also wonder is this just kind of a roster 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.200 presence to prepare them for certain backs things like that? 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:32.600 Does that does that kind of play really have a 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.920 role within the offense. I don't know, but at least 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.120 I know it's kind of on their radar. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.320 Kind of with Evan, either you get Gibbs or you 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:39.280 just wait to the late round. 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the two guys I want you guys 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.280 just mentioned Gray and Duce, so were the next two guys. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.000 I think kind of that next tier. Eric Gray is 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:53.120 a really fun player, really quick, really agile. He's got 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.160 that ability to just jump cut out of things, but 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.320 also has I think at the top of the route 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.640 is going to be a devastating guy at the top 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.120 to stay with for linebackers in middle of the field 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:07.280 players and then Deuce darren Sprolls right like that's basically 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:12.720 who he And apparently I said that in our friend 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.640 video guy Bradley, I laughed in my face because I 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.560 didn't realize that darren Sprolls went to Kansas State. So 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.400 he was like, yeah, Evan, no kidding, he's darren Sprolls 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.840 two point zero, Like that's literally that's exactly what he is. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.640 I know, I can hit a yeah, that's why I like, yeah, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.320 and uh, and he was I guess, you know, Duce 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.080 fawn I I I talked to him a little bit 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.480 at the combine and I mentioned what about the Patriots, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.880 and his face just lit up because he was like, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.480 that's a place that I know would know exactly how 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:46.959 to use me, like James White, Dion Lewis, Danny Woodhead, Kevin. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.560 Falk, like go right on down the line. And he 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.160 felt like that would just be a perfect fit for him. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.800 So that one's almost too obvious that maybe it won't happen. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.960 But duce Vaughn with a Day three pick feels like 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.840 a slam dunk fear of the pate. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:05.000 Yeah, I would agree with the past catching ability that 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.480 that's what would stand out to me. Deuce Vaughan absolutely 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.800 has it. Electric player, really small like five to five, 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.720 like really really small guy. I'll give you two other 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:19.559 Day three kind of guys TCU Kendre Miller and Minnesota's 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.280 Mohammed Ibrahim. He you know, Ibrahim is a guy who 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.360 was really productive in the Big Ten for a while. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.920 I had some injury problems. Kind of worry sometimes I 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.800 don't have the exact numbers in front of me, But 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.960 sometimes the guys that have a lot of carries in 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:38.200 college don't always translate. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.680 But we're talking day three picks, not anybody that you're 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.800 like looking at. Oh, if we can get out of 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.400 this draft and get Kendre Miller like you, No, no, no, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:48.560 we're talking about later on. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.400 I like Travis Daye out of USC is a late, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.440 late round guy, you know, downhill runner. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.560 Another receiver had a bad injury ankle injury last year 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.920 in the fall season, and he was at the Shrine 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.600 with the Patriots, Travis Dye, and I was looking forward 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:07.160 to seeing him practice, and unfortunately the ankle is really 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.800 bad ankle injury, like one of those like Gordon Hayward 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:15.000 type injuries. So hopefully he's gonna be okay and we'll 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.720 be back to his normal self because he's a perfect 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.800 pass catching third down. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.440 Back for the Patriot. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:21.880 Yeah. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.760 I just out there too. I know you lak him. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.320 Evan Hol's got a little bit of James White in them. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.880 He's got He's not necessarily the fastest guy. I don't 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.800 think he's gonna necessarily blow anybody away with his just 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.800 overall athleticism, but he's got that little quickness at the 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.400 top of the route to get open. He's got some 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.080 good feel of the passing game, so a. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.120 Lot of different kinds of running backs. I think that 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.320 the group here is more focused on some of the 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.600 more versatile guys that can catch catch passes and maybe 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.040 work in the passing game. I think that was an 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.000 element that was lacking a little bit, even though Stevenson 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.040 caught so many passes last year. I think that maybe 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.760 they might might have wanted that going in that three 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.640 down back, that they didn't have to dictate based on 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.440 personnel what they were going to do. But then I 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.400 think when you see it in practice, you see the workload. 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.080 I felt like that really caught up with Ramondre Stevenson 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.480 down the end. I think he ended up with almost 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.280 seventy catches, So it's not like he wasn't productive. He 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.520 was really really good. But I think if you had 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.280 to do it over again, I think Bill Belichick would 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.160 look and say, maybe the way we have been doing 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.880 it is the more more preferred route. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:27.240 Yeah. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:28.440 I think you could just get a sense of how 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.680 they feel about some of these unproven guys too. You know, 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.720 if I not to say, I think you take somebody 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.360 like Gibbs, look, he's that'd be different player. But as 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.360 we get into like you know, or are they third round, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.120 fourth round? Are they getting a guy that you might 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.840 expect to come in and play immediately? 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.640 It might, you know, reflect a little bit on how 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:44.800 I would strong hair. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.520 It'll make a good conversation come this Saturday or the 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.640 draft when when Paul's out of gasps and you know, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.400 I'm hoping it's running backs because it's a position that 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.000 I can at least speak intelligently on and not necessarily the. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:00.680 String guard. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.480 I hope they draft Uce. I really do. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.920 Oh, I would love that obviously. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:11.320 Yeah, right now he gets college hockey player drafted in 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:11.640 the end. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.240 How many times joke to him and he's looked at 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:15.400 me like I had ten heads. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:16.400 I'm sorry, what do you mean? 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.320 And he's like what. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.280 Because I started talking, Like what's he talking about? That's 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.080 the first time I played into it. So we're getting 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:22.360 it down. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.360 If they draft a guy like us von though, I 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.000 think it's exciting, even if it's later on in the draft. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.800 It's somebody that you go watch him against Alabama and 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.200 he houses that seventy five yard touchdown in the Sugar 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:33.800 Bowl and you're like, okay, cool, Like this is a 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.240 fun player, and I think that that's going to be 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.520 something that people will will be excited about. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.680 I do all right, So running backs not always my 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.120 favorite position, but definitely one of my preferred spots to 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.200 talk about come draft time because of exactly what even't 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.280 talked about, the electricity that comes with uh some of 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.120 these guys in the big playability that they might bring 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.640 to the table. So that's going to put an end 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:01.560 to the offensive portion of our podcast. And now, just 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.440 to give everybody a little bit of a heads up, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.720 I know everybody's always listening to our draft podcasts, right, 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.280 we will have one more just ahead of the draft 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.000 where we'll sort of wrap it all up. We'll tie 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.160 things together and I'll put the guys on the spot 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.240 and have them come up with some first round picks 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.159 for the Patriots and the positions of need and all that. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.280 So we'll tie that all together. Thanks for listening to 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.760 all of our position podcasts though, and we'll see you 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.400 for that wrap up next week. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.359 Thank you for downloading this podcast. 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