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Speaker 1: On a cold and rainy winter's day, I went to

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Speaker 3: What was your past?

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Speaker 1: Where did you decide you wanted to go into medicine

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Speaker 2: I was making like seventeen an hour for that summer.

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Speaker 2: So I just let you know how that got at works.

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Speaker 3: You ride your walk two blocks and it's this beautiful campus.

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Speaker 2: that three point nine GPA, no excuses, Go fight for

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Speaker 1: My name is Malcolm Gladwell. You're listening to Revisionist History,

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Speaker 1: my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood. This is the

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Speaker 1: about a young man who grew up in one of

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Speaker 2: Then we teaching the ABC is really simple. A means

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Speaker 2: probably never seen this unless you're planning your sister's drawer

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Speaker 2: or something. But we'll teach you how to use this

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Speaker 2: You know, MAXI pads and absorb the pads are going

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Speaker 2: to be at your fingertips. That's what you need. You

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Speaker 2: to feel confident enough to act. Do something. Call nine

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Speaker 2: nine won will actually walk you through these things. In

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Speaker 2: this past summer, we actually had a young lady, a

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Speaker 2: she came to me week two and she's like, doctor Pratt,

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Speaker 2: I need a new kid. Like heirl, you lost your

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Speaker 2: She's like, no, I didn't lose that promise. I promise

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Speaker 2: I had to use it? And I said, well, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean you had to use it. She was like,

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Speaker 2: oh man, they shot someone right in front of my house.

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Speaker 2: So I got it on video. She shows me the video.

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Speaker 2: She did everything right. She took the time to watch

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Speaker 2: be here, you need to move, and she's like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: there's a law that says that I can be here

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Speaker 2: and help, and I have the kid and I don't

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Speaker 2: want to see him die. And they're like, we will.

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Speaker 2: We'll compromise, we'll take the kid, we'll make sure we

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Speaker 2: You can stand off to the side. And literally she

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Speaker 2: that kid, to the Turner kids, the guds, the everything

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Speaker 2: strawing out us. And so of course she got her

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Speaker 2: another kid. And I was so proud of her being

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Speaker 2: this young lady was either sixteen or seventeen. She wasn't

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Speaker 2: even a senior yet, so this is like a sophomore,

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Speaker 2: junior or yeah.

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Speaker 1: In the streets of Chicago, an er doctor who has

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Speaker 1: lost fifteen close friends and his older brother to gun violence,

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Speaker 1: is going out to local elementary schools on his afternoon

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Speaker 1: off and teaching fourth graders how to stabilize a gunshot wound.

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Speaker 1: This is what it means to bother to care. Abdula

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Speaker 1: Prat doesn't turn his back on where he's from, or

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Speaker 1: hide behind a wall of indifference or change the subject.

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Speaker 1: He sees a river of blood and he says, maybe

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Speaker 1: there's something I can do right now to stem the tide.

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Speaker 1: Do I know what the equivalent act is for the

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Speaker 1: rest of us who don't live in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the crisis. I don't, But we can at least start

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Speaker 1: by acknowledging that Abdulla Prat, Chicago is also our Chicago,

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Speaker 1: our country, our flesh and blood. We live here too.

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Speaker 2: I just want to feel a youth to feel empowered.

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Speaker 2: Many times, I just want them to feel like they

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Speaker 2: have ownership of their own community and that they are

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Speaker 2: the best position to solve these problems. There is no one,

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Speaker 2: some big chariot, some messiah that's going to come through.

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Speaker 2: That's a politician. It's going to fix your problems. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be on you. That's what history shows us.

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Speaker 1: There is no one, no messiah, no politician who's going

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Speaker 1: to fix your problems. It's going to be on you.

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Speaker 1: No one should have to give that speech to a

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Speaker 1: room full of fourth graders. Sin is the failure to

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Speaker 1: bother to care. Our revisionist history. Gun series was produced

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Speaker 1: by Jacob Smith, Bend, daph Haffrey, Fiara Powell, Tally, Emmin

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Speaker 1: and Leaming Gistuck. We were edited by Peter Clowney and

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Speaker 1: Julia Barton, fact checking by Arthur Gomberts and Kashelle Williams,

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Speaker 1: mastering by Lawn Williams, Engineering by Nina Lawrence. I'm Malcolm Glappa.

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Speaker 1: The vocalists you heard at the end of this episode

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Speaker 1: were Gabrielle Cavasa, Grace Gibson, Sari Jordan, and Lewis Corter.

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Speaker 1: It was recorded at Artists Sound Production, produced by Keenan McRae.

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Speaker 1: Choral arrangements by Luis Gira, drums by Mike Longoria, all

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Speaker 1: other instruments played by Louis Gira. Music for this series written,

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Speaker 1: arranged and produced by Luis Gira. Special guests include Mike Longoria,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Messer, and camal Humphrey. Samples were cleared by L.

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Speaker 1: Chappelin Music, additional mixing and mastering at P and L Records.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks to John Meistis for connecting the New Orleans

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Speaker 1: based choir voices of Art a Sound with the team

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Speaker 1: at Revisionist History