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Speaker 1: as well. I mentioned the at the end of last hour.

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Speaker 1: The DraftKings just sent me the NBA title odds for

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Speaker 1: next season. The Oklahoma City Thunder are your favorite. It's

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Speaker 1: second on the list to win the title next year.

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Speaker 1: The Houston Rockets plus seven point fifty. Wow. They were

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Speaker 1: plus twelve hundred before the Kevin Turan Durant trade. Then

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Speaker 1: it's the Cavaliers and the Knicks are tied at plus

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Speaker 1: eight fifty. Then it drops down to Minnesota, the Nuggets,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers, and then the Celtics. The Pacers are plus

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Speaker 1: thirty five hundred to win the NBA title, and that

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Speaker 1: in large part because of the injury to Tyrese Haliburton.

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Speaker 1: Stat of the stat of the day, stat of the day,

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Speaker 1: I also have NBA MBP he odds for next season, Paul,

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Speaker 1: who do you think is the favorite? According to DraftKings

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Speaker 1: ah To, I'm going to go with SGA, begrudgingly, Todd

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson, Seatan Lebron, Marvin Joker, Joker, then SGA, and

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Speaker 1: then it dips to Jannie Luca and Anthony Edwards. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be hard for Shay Gilgis to win the MVP

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Speaker 1: again next year. It just is so he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: the same stats. He might average thirty three a game,

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Speaker 1: maybe increases his assist total. Maybe they have the best

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Speaker 1: record in basketball. But we've seen that. This is the

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Speaker 1: hard part in repeating because it's something different, what is unique,

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Speaker 1: Like Luca would be the guy that I would put

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Speaker 1: my money on. Now, Joker, this could be the comeback.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. I don't think it's a comeback, but hey,

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Speaker 1: you didn't win, but you had your best season. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's give a Testga, then we'll let you back in

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Speaker 1: the MVP picture next year. Jiannis, if he stays in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: if you get your team into the playoffs, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had an unbelievable year, but he's graduated to that

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Speaker 1: level where you go, yeah, I know, those are good numbers.

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Speaker 1: Joker has graduated to that. Yeah, Okay, that's fine. Those

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Speaker 1: are nice numbers. SGA just gave us those numbers. Now

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Speaker 1: he's got to try to outduel that, and that's going

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Speaker 1: to be hard to do. Luca. Luca would be my

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Speaker 1: But keep in mind those who vote. You know it's

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Speaker 1: consciously or subconsciously you like to have something new to

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Speaker 1: talk about. This could be Luca's Lakers, Luca in shape.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you're seeing what he can be,

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Speaker 1: and you just hope that the Lakers get a big

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Speaker 1: man and then you might see them being a dangerous team,

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Speaker 1: and they should have been. They fell short in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: but you know they did try to get a big man.

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Speaker 1: Lucas said, Hey, I need that I'd like to get

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Speaker 1: Maybe they find that guy. But it's a good team.

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Speaker 1: But you're in the West and now Durant has relocated

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Speaker 1: and Houston is a young, hungry team with a closer,

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Speaker 1: this in mind with Oka. See, they had a closer,

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Speaker 1: no matter what else happened, they had a closer. And

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Speaker 1: most great teams have that guy. You know. Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: still score. But those are just some of the odds

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Speaker 1: for next season, with Joker being the favorite, slight favorite

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Speaker 1: over SGA to be the MVP, and the Thunder are

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to phone calls coming up, Seaton,

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Speaker 1: would you recap the poll question from the first hour?

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Speaker 3: Yep, sure, Ken, Let's see what this NBA Finals is

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Speaker 3: going to be most remembered for. Right now, it's the

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Speaker 3: Halliburton injury as about fifty five percent of that vote,

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Speaker 3: followed by okc's first title. SGA becoming a star in

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Speaker 3: the Durant trade are pretty far down there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna remember, I think ten years from now,

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Speaker 1: tyrees Haliburton, just with everything that happened, you know, the

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Speaker 1: He started out really well in Game seven, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden when he went down. It almost

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Speaker 1: just stops everything. You know, you have all this momentum,

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Speaker 1: win a title, and all of a sudden that happens,

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Speaker 1: and you hate seeing that. Obviously, he goes down and

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Speaker 1: I mean you could just see him writhing in pain.

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Speaker 1: And what happens when guys blow out their achilles, They

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Speaker 1: always look behind them, and you saw that. Tyreus Aliburton

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Speaker 1: Marino when he blew out his achilles. They it's like

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Speaker 1: somebody kicked you. But all it is is you blow

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Speaker 1: out your achilles. And we found out that you do

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Speaker 4: Yes, Paul I went back and looked at the the

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Speaker 4: statue of Achilles and he did not have a zero

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Speaker 1: Did he blow out his achilles?

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Speaker 2: Checking?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I'm not sure how did they come

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Speaker 1: the Achilles.

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Speaker 4: He was a Greek hero of the Trojan War. The

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Speaker 4: death of Achilles is in the Iliad, Dan, I know

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Speaker 4: you read that. I read the Odyssey, pretend to read that.

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Speaker 4: I read the Odissey.

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Speaker 4: According to the myths myth, when his mother Theetsas dipped

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Speaker 1: My bad I Fritzi dis corrected me. Jason Tatum zero,

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Speaker 1: not Kevin Durant. So the three that we've seen with Halliburton,

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Speaker 1: Dame and Tatum all were zero.

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Speaker 3: See, And later on in that story, Achilles is shot

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Speaker 1: Heel alters gets checking on that that's the Achilles.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the Achilles heel and it made like a

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Speaker 1: popping sound. Thank you well, subject to an MRI of course,

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at that it was BC. They didn't have

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Speaker 1: Or is he the only guy? I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: just dawned on me that there's a guy named Achilles

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Speaker 1: I don't know when they were naming. But who named

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Speaker 1: mean Adam gave it to you. You're shifting the blame. Yes,

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Speaker 3: The Charles testicle is feeling pretty proud of himself. He

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Speaker 3: I thought of those named after me. Yeah, Charlie Testes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Charle's testicle one of the great ones.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Do you have a pole question? Do I have

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Speaker 1: a pole question for hour two?

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Speaker 4: Well, the backstory on Adam's Apple, because we got to

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Speaker 4: learn a little Back in the sixteen hundreds, doctors used

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Speaker 1: Back to you, Okay, well, who do you put the

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Speaker 1: he was drinking scotch. See what's pole question for hour two?

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Speaker 1: We got one here?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: Is that one of the answers in this is I

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Speaker 3: If you owned an NBA team and can add one

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Speaker 3: Giannis from the Bucks, Sam Presty from the Thunder or

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Speaker 3: Eric Spolster from the Heat? Is Eric Spolster currently the

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Speaker 3: best head coach in the NBA?

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Speaker 1: If Rick Carlisle had won the title, then it'd be

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Speaker 1: Rick Carlole. He could put Joe Mizzula probably up there.

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Speaker 3: He's got to be top three best coaches, right. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's considered top three great coaches. You don't

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Speaker 1: I think I think the experts are you know, those

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Speaker 1: how great a coach Joe is great roster. I think

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Speaker 1: they're probably still okay, you know, yeah, polm.

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Speaker 4: I think if a Adoka from Houston was a free agent,

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Speaker 4: he'd be scalding hot right now. Yeah, the past has

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Speaker 4: been somewhat cleaned up, and all he does is raise

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Speaker 4: up teams and.

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Speaker 1: We still don't know about that past. One of the

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Speaker 1: great mysteries there.

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Speaker 2: Guy's got to put me in the top five. Give it.

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Speaker 2: Come on, help me out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: No, thank you, docs. Let's see what I want to have,

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Speaker 1: Sam Presty or Eric Spolstra. I think I'd rather have

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Speaker 1: Sam Presty because I want somebody who will get the players,

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Speaker 1: get the environment to then give it to the coach

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Speaker 1: because you know, the San Antonio Spurs were great, but

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Speaker 6: Thanks for taking my call, perfect segue into shifting the blame.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to get your thoughts on Tracy McGrady was

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Speaker 8: Yes, Mark, I think the biggest difference is when we

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Speaker 1: start with ten years from now, we'll remember these NBA

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Speaker 1: finals for what.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing, nothing. No, let's just be honest.

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Speaker 2: It's not they didn't have none of those moments.

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Speaker 7: I think he'd be more remembered for the Eastern Conference

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't be surprised that this happened.

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Speaker 7: I don't remember ever when calf strains turned into achille

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Speaker 7: So you know, any kind of exposure that has to

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Speaker 7: games are not mature. Sangoon still thinks he's Jokic. When

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00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 7: you're Sandune, you guys have different games. You have to

434
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 7: understand what you're good at, stop trying to be you know, Yoki.

435
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 7: So he's still having trying to figure out what his

436
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 7: game is.

437
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: Same thing with Amen. Amen's trying to figure out what is.

438
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 7: He we know your freak of nature. We know you

439
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 7: are a two way player, but you really have to

440
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 7: carve out your identity. So with so many pieces trying

441
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 7: to figure out who they are, I don't know if

442
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 7: they're going to be a real contender. But they do

443
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 7: have Camra Durant and you have a great coach.

444
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: Everybody else has roles that they they accept, so it

445
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: could work.

446
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns are a mess, yeah, a mess.

447
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

448
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 7: I mean it starts from the head right when you're

449
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 7: talking about not Kevin Durant, we're talking about the owner, right,

450
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 7: even though he has a basketball background went to Michigan State.

451
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 7: Do you know what it takes to put a winning

452
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 7: team together? That goes from personalities, that goes from basketball style,

453
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 7: that goes from coaching, that goes from gms.

454
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: What are they looking at? What's their eye? Right? You

455
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: have to have an eye for talent and how it

456
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: works together.

457
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 7: Like just playing in the game and looking at those

458
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 7: three I'm saying, oh, you need to be in a

459
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 7: triangle or you need to be in the Printon offense,

460
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 7: because the offense is not made for your superstar. It's

461
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 7: made for the team. So the team can move around

462
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 7: and get little buckets here and there to keep them excited,

463
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 7: to keep the defense honest.

464
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: But when you have a stationary offense where.

465
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 7: Your three main guys have the ball to everyone since

466
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Speaker 7: in the corner, I don't have to guard the corner guys,

467
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 7: So that means I'm.

468
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: Just gonna guard.

469
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 7: Kevin, Duran and Beal and we're just gonna load up.

470
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 7: And that's what the triangle was made for. Yeah, we

471
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 7: got Jordan, Kobe and Shack, but we're gonna make you

472
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 7: guard bj Armstrong Steve Kerr because we're.

473
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: Gonna move them off screens and if.

474
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 7: You don't play it correctly, here's gonna be a layup,

475
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 7: here's gonna be a jump shot.

476
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: And that's what they didn't do in sons.

477
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: What was your thoughts or thoughts on Lebron where he said,

478
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: you know that we're obsessed with chasing rings. The media

479
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: is obsessed with players chasing rings.

480
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 7: He's right right, It was the same thing Michael Jordan said.

481
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: You know, he said the same exact thing. He said.

482
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 7: You know, Bill Russell got eleven, but does that make

483
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 7: him better than me?

484
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: Right? I got six? Does that make me better than him?

485
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 7: Because obviously there's more to just a ring and talent.

486
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 7: You can be talented and not win a ring. You

487
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 7: can be horrible and win a ring because you got

488
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 7: a great cast around you.

489
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: So what they're saying is correct.

490
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Speaker 7: And it goes by the top seventy five list, right,

491
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 7: the top seventy five lists that was put in, voted in,

492
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 7: and then they voted in order.

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00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: That lets your note.

494
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 7: Rings doesn't necessarily matter because you have Scottie Pippen with

495
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 7: six rings, six All NBA or seven All NBAS, seven

496
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 7: All Stars, ten Defensive Awards, but he's sitting at thirty

497
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 7: two thirty one. It's allan iverson no rings. So you're

498
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 7: telling me six rings is getting beat out by what

499
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 7: four scoring titles in MVP. Then you got Chris Paul

500
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 7: sitting at twenty nine. Then you got Karl Malone, John Stocked,

501
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 7: and Charles Barklay not none of them got rings, but

502
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 7: they're all in front of Scottie Pippen. Then at seventy

503
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 7: five you have Dame Litard right, six all Stars at

504
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 7: the time, six All NBAS. Klay Thompson doesn't.

505
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: Make it in.

506
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 7: He has three All three Championships, two five All Stars,

507
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 7: two All NBAS. His resume is not better with the rings.

508
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 7: So it's showing you that rings don't matter. Your individual

509
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 7: talent matters first. Then the rings kind of help you

510
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 7: over the top. But the media has pushed rings as

511
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 7: the cake instead of just a cherry on top.

512
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Scottie Pippens's career or Alan Iverson's history?

513
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 7: Says Alan Iverson. He's gonna be remembered more because his

514
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 7: background says he was a top player in the NBA.

515
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 2: He was an MVP. Remember all MVPs.

516
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 7: One, you're the best player if you're a scoring champ,

517
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 7: says your top five. I don't know how many scoring

518
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 7: champs in the NBA went to second team All NBA,

519
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 7: usually their first team All NBA.

520
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: So it kind of says who he was.

521
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 7: In the NBA, right, you know, the average fan is

522
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 7: gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna take the six rings, I'm

523
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 7: gonna be a champ. But we're looking at Scotty Pippen

524
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 7: and we've seen how Scottie Pippen.

525
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: Has been treated with six rings. He's not treated like

526
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: Michael Right, So when you.

527
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 7: Say my legacy, the legacy for you personally, yeah, six rings,

528
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 7: but the legacy for everyone when you walk in public?

529
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: Are you respected?

530
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 7: If you say Scottie Pippen and Alan Iverson, everybody runs

531
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 7: to Allen Iverson because they remember he was iconic at

532
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 7: what he did. I mean, as a basketball player, we're

533
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 7: taught we want to be a champion. We get reality

534
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 7: once our career is done. And we're sitting there six

535
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 7: rings trying to get you know, these business deals done,

536
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 7: and everybody's like, yeah, you're not Michael Jordan, and you're

537
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 7: like hmmm, and you know that's it's the sad truth.

538
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 7: I just do the research and then say what I found.

539
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 7: You know, they can they can disagree, and then I

540
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 7: can say, well, here's all the facts. Do you do

541
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 7: you not like the facts. There's a reason Kobe's at

542
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 7: tim There's a reason Kobe with three rings push shack

543
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 7: away because when he had the three rings and we're saying,

544
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 7: he's saying, hey, I'm Michael Jordan, and they're like, yeah,

545
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 7: well Shaq is carrying you. And he's like wait what no, wait,

546
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 7: wait hold on the lim You told me that I'm

547
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 7: the next thing to Michael Jordan. Why are you not

548
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 7: treating me like that? So now as well I need

549
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 7: to get rid of him. To show who I am whining.

550
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 7: That's why his fourth and fifth ring to him is

551
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 7: the most special one.

552
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: They're the sweetest ones. You see, the reality of it is.

553
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 7: We're we're we're finding out in real time.

554
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: We're told championships is everything.

555
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 7: When we're getting them and we're not being recognized for him,

556
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 7: that's when reality kicks in.

557
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: But do you think that Kobe is the one who

558
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: initiated this? I mean there was friction with him in Shaq.

559
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: First of all, Shack had his little brother. Then all

560
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, little brother is getting thirty and then

561
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden things change that Yes, we did win.

562
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: I had an equal hand in this. But then did

563
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: it get to the point where both their egos or

564
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: maybe Kobe's ego to say, I got to prove that

565
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: I can win without shock.

566
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 7: And that's and that's that's exactly what it is. You're winning.

567
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 7: He's getting all the credit, and he's like, well, I

568
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 7: am aged thirty two. I did my part. Why I'm

569
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 7: not getting the equal love? Right, So when we talk

570
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 7: about champions and you're giving option one all the love

571
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 7: while Option two is like I did just as much damage, Kyrie,

572
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 7: same thing, Hey, hold on, I hit the game winner.

573
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 7: I hit the game winner, didn't and Lebron is getting

574
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 7: all the credits, so he's like, well, I need to

575
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 7: I need to go and show people I can do

576
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 7: this by myself too. That's what ends up happening. That's

577
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 7: where the egos come from. The egos come from. I'm

578
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 7: watching the guy get all the love and I'm waiting

579
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 7: next and I'm hearing all the people and everybody's going

580
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 7: getting all all the graphs and they're like, hey, Robin,

581
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 7: you did great, and he's like, Robin, oh no, no, no no.

582
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 7: I'm like I'm like a batman too. I'm like a

583
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 7: little bit like I'm one B. I'm one B. Give

584
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 7: me the one beloved. And they don't get it. And

585
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 7: that's where the ego plays a part.

586
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: How many titles? If Shaq and Kobe stay together, do

587
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: you think they win?

588
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 7: I talked to players on the team because I'm a big,

589
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 7: big Kobe fan, even though people don't think, like every

590
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 7: my whole life revolves around in tattoos, La Kobe everything.

591
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: Wait, you got Kobe tattoos?

592
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 7: I got a number, I got a twenty four tattit

593
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 7: after he won his championship by himself.

594
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Right, I got it.

595
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 7: I got it right on my leg twenty four. Tat

596
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 7: it right because as a Kobe fan, when they say

597
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 7: you couldn't win one without Shaq.

598
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: It's like you proved everybody wrong. Yes, that's yes.

599
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait you're in the league with Kobe. Yeah,

600
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: and you got a tattoo of Kobe.

601
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: Yes.

602
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: What did he say when he said it?

603
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: He never knows, he's never seen it before.

604
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: Did he know you had it? Yes?

605
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Like people don't know. Like people don't know. Like I played.

606
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 7: I played in the Olympics or the two thousand and

607
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 7: six Triba games.

608
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: I wore number ten.

609
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 7: I wore number ten because I had the conversation with

610
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 7: Kobe if you ever played in the game, what number

611
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 7: would you wear? And he said, I'm wearing number ten

612
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 7: because there's one more than Jordan's nine. Okay, So when

613
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 7: I got the team, I wore ten. And then when

614
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 7: I didn't make the team and he played, he wore team.

615
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 7: But I did that for I did that for that,

616
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 7: So I'm Kobe always.

617
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of stalker ish here, you know for sure? No, no, no,

618
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: you have any other players on your body?

619
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 7: No, just just cobD No, no, oh no, no, Penny

620
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 7: Hardaway College. So those are my two favorite Peenny Hardaway.

621
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: Wait, when I went to Orlando. When I went to Orlando,

622
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: I wore number one.

623
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 7: I were number one also, so I have Penny twenty

624
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 7: five on my leg. So I wore twenty five in

625
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 7: high school because of Penny Memphis.

626
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: Do you have short son? Yes, show me the Kobe.

627
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 7: One said, I don't know if you can see so.

628
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: So whoa, okay, wow you gotta yeah, you got Kobe

629
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: close to your heart there.

630
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 7: Yea, So twenty fours right here, and it's blessed with skills.

631
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I know.

632
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 7: But I think they would have won if Shaq. So

633
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 7: this is what was said. If Shaq was still the

634
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 7: leader and the head of the Snake on the two

635
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 7: thousand and two two thousand and three team, we would

636
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 7: have won that fourth championship. We would have won the fourth.

637
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 7: But that's where the argument where he got coined the Batman.

638
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 7: And then Shaq got hurt, missed the first twelve games

639
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 7: of that season, and Kobe put the crown on and

640
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 7: that's where the fighting started. Because Phil couldn't get it

641
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 7: from him, right. He was like I'm not taking a

642
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 7: back seat anymore, and so they would have won that

643
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 7: championship if Shaq was still the lead dog they think,

644
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 7: and then obviously the Karl alone them they could have

645
00:34:59,440 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 7: won that one.

646
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: But I think they would have probably had at that time.

647
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 7: All the way probably to two thousands six. Right that

648
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 7: two thousand and six season, they could have still managed,

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Speaker 7: just added a couple of pieces. Then Shaq would have

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Speaker 7: probably start declining right there, and then just you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they could have what do you say to

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Speaker 1: your wife or what does your wife say to you

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Speaker 1: when she realizes you have Kobe's tattoo on?

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Speaker 2: That's my mom, it's my fandom, because this is it's

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Speaker 2: my it's my fandom.

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Speaker 7: I'm a fan, like I'm one of those like if

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Speaker 7: I wasn't an NBA player, I would be a season

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Speaker 7: ticket holder with the paint on sitting here.

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Speaker 2: That that crazy.

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Speaker 7: Guy that's outside as the broaderground, that will be me

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Speaker 7: Like I was. I was a fan first, and I

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Speaker 7: used to say when I played, like I'm an NBA player,

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Speaker 7: but I'm a fan first. So I got That's why

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Speaker 7: I got all the If you look at my room, right,

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Speaker 7: I got the okc's on one side and then aiding

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Speaker 7: Anna's one on the other side. Right, I'm rooting for both, right,

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Speaker 7: But I'm a Laker. I'm a Laker at at at heart.

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Speaker 1: But I now know why you didn't show Kobe given

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Speaker 1: the location of that tattoo on inner thigh, you know. So, hey, Kobe,

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Speaker 1: come here, I want to show you something.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know it's it looks a little weird, is right,

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Speaker 7: you know, like, why would you put it down here

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Speaker 7: and say, well, I'm covering everywhere else?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you, as always, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's a Gilbert Arenas, host of Gil's Arena podcast and

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Speaker 1: uh Gil and Underdog's Hit Show, which streams Monday through

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Speaker 1: Thursday Gill's Arena. You can find it on YouTube, also Spotify, Apple,

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. Always fun, always, but I

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Speaker 1: love the enthusiasm that he does love the game and

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Speaker 1: he knows the game as well. We'll take a break

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Speaker 1: when we come back our best and worst of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until

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Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: And you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at

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Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Gilbert

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Speaker 1: Arenas is a lot of fun. I love the enthusiasm

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Speaker 1: that he has and you know that he loves the

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Speaker 1: game and he knows the game as well. It's not

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Speaker 1: just an opinion. It's an informed opinion. It's a hot take.

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Speaker 1: It's an opinion, but it's it's backed with research and

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I love too that This is the second guest

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Speaker 3: we've had on in a week or so who spoke

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Speaker 3: about while they were playing being huge fans of the

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Speaker 3: guys they were playing against. Jeff Tigue with this way,

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Speaker 3: I think we just had him on Schumpert talking to

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Speaker 3: him about how he was like, oh, no, like, I

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Speaker 3: love these guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of this guy.

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Speaker 3: That's why I would study him so much, because I'm

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Speaker 3: a massive fan of so and so, and then they

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Speaker 3: would play against each other. I love that at sort

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Speaker 3: of you know, being able to be compared additive while

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Speaker 3: also still just like in awe.

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Speaker 1: How about we go around the room best and worst

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Speaker 1: of the weekend, Todd, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 5: My best of the weekend, although twenty three year old

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Speaker 5: rookie Jacob Mizerowski if the Brewers lost his bid for

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Speaker 5: a perfect game in the seventh inning against the Twins

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Speaker 5: Friday Night, started his major league career with eleven hitless innings,

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Speaker 5: first started to do that since nineteen hundred more wins,

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Speaker 5: then hits aloud in his first two career starts, and

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Speaker 5: that supposedly has never happened, at least not since nineteen hundred.

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Speaker 5: Worst of the weekend They did win on Sunday, and

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Speaker 5: not to pile on, but the Rockies five to three

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Speaker 5: loss to the d back Saturday gave them loss number

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Speaker 5: sixty of the season, falling to seventeen and sixties seven

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Speaker 5: and twenty nine at home, twenty nine and a half

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Speaker 5: games back in your NL West.

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Speaker 1: See no Connor. My best of the weekend is Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 3: You can't come away from that loss like that in

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Speaker 3: the finals looking much better than I think the way

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Speaker 3: he does now. I think he hit everything sort of

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Speaker 3: on point throughout this series. My other best is the

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Speaker 3: Mets too hit seven solo home runs in one game.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of fun of investing.

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Speaker 8: Worst best at the weekend Rafael Devers hitting his first

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Speaker 8: home run as a Giant against the Red Sock.

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Speaker 2: That is correct. And then my worst of the weekend.

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Speaker 8: The paces in the third quarter getting I'll score by

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Speaker 8: fourteen with eight turnovers. That was the difference in the

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Speaker 8: game for me.

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Speaker 1: Paul beston worst show.

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Speaker 4: Heyo Tani pitching again and pitching well. There was a

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Speaker 4: point maybe a year ago, where I thought he may

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Speaker 4: never pitch again out of safety or injury. And it

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Speaker 4: looks like it's going in the right direction. Just a

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Speaker 4: special time to be around to see this unique player

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Speaker 4: that's once in a lifetime. The other is Cal Rawley,

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Speaker 4: the catcher for the Seattle Mariners. These guy's had a

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Speaker 4: nice career power hitter, not exactly a numbers guy batting average.

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Speaker 4: He is hitting two seventy six this year in seventy

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Speaker 4: five games, he's got thirty one home runs and he's

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Speaker 4: really entertaining good guy, good coverage out there.

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Speaker 1: He's the second catcher in baseball history to hit at

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Speaker 1: least thirty home runs in three or more consecutive seasons.

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Speaker 1: Mike Piazza did that eight consecutive seasons. Stanta the Jay Stand.

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Speaker 1: We love your.

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Speaker 3: Stana stat of the Jay Out of the Day brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Panini America and Pandora.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Pandora from Nevada joining us. Hi, Pandora,

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Hi.

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Speaker 2: Hey you guys. Great good.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys like my honey? Yes? I did. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for the gifts that you sent. Very sweet of you.

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Speaker 2: So I have a pull question for you guys.

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Speaker 5: Answer is yes or no?

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Speaker 1: Is Adam Silver the white appa ganger of Tony Dungee

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Speaker 1: or not. I'd have to I'd have to study that

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Speaker 1: a little more, Pandora. Uh, but I'll give that, give

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Speaker 1: that some thought there.

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Speaker 3: Yes see, I do kind of love the idea that

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Speaker 3: while Pandora's working on the honey and off on the ranch,

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Speaker 3: these are the things that are sort of keep buying,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of a white Tony Dungee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pandora, send us some gifts, Send us a picture

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Speaker 1: and sweatshirt, Got some honey, some salsa. We got it,

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Speaker 1: We got it all all going on. Thank you, Pandora.

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Speaker 1: Final Hour on the way. Chris Mannis will join us

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Speaker 1: from Oklahoma City. Get his thoughts on the finals and

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Speaker 1: what is up with Giannis staying in Milwaukee.