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Speaker 1: in Palm Beach, Florida with my annual visit with Steve

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Speaker 1: one zero seven one one seven. You have a great

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Speaker 1: read on the draft. You were in mobile with your

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Speaker 1: buddy Jim Miller. Um, but every year I like to

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Speaker 1: talk to you at the league meetings because you have

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Speaker 1: a good pulse of what's happened at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. Five years ago, that heralded draft

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Speaker 1: class coming out, he said, watch out for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I know there's no Josh Allen in this class, but

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Speaker 1: are there gonna be quarterbacks taken on the first round? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Two or three. Um, there's a need. It's a need position.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have on, gotta keep taking chances. That's

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Speaker 1: what Pete Carol did in Seattle. He just kept taking

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Speaker 1: until he got to Russell, and he didn't mind who

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Speaker 1: he paid. If they weren't going to be better than Russell,

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Speaker 1: he moved him out of there. So you can't stop trying.

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Speaker 1: So that's the first piece. So I interviewed a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys off the record, GM's former GM former coach.

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Speaker 1: Just enough guys, and they all know the quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: this draft. And so Pickett came out number one by everyone.

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Speaker 1: Number two was the young man from Cincinnati. He got

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Speaker 1: he Ritter got more votes, uh and and he lined

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Speaker 1: up second when I tallied the whole thing up, and

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Speaker 1: then Malik Willis was third. So I found it interesting

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Speaker 1: that Ritter land up in the two spot. And so

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Speaker 1: I I've gone back to a couple of guys. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I didn't tell you the results because they were they

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Speaker 1: were answer my stuff at different times. He said, Ritter

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Speaker 1: came out second best in your eyes. So let's go

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Speaker 1: back and talk about Ritter. Athletic, big hands, good arm,

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Speaker 1: lots of game experience. He almost played fifty games. So

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Speaker 1: those are the things that strike and people that are

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Speaker 1: interviewing him. One one guy said to me, he was

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Speaker 1: I went in to watch him, thinking I maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: take him in the second round. He because I left

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Speaker 1: going up, I get a shot and take him in

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Speaker 1: the first round. So he's to me the curve bowls.

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Speaker 1: Surprise guy. Maybe he's my Josh Allen. Oh, come on

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Speaker 1: the guy. He didn't mention it. There was Pickett. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone had him one because in this league, we both

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Speaker 1: know if you take when in the first round, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna put him on the field before that year is over.

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Speaker 1: Everyone says they don't want to. Everyone says they're gonna

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Speaker 1: prep them and take most of the time. You put

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Speaker 1: him on the field. You put your guy on the field,

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Speaker 1: and you set it up so no one else could

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Speaker 1: go on the field. He didn't really have a backup.

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Speaker 1: That was the old, right, you know, the old veteran

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Speaker 1: that could go out there for a year and let

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Speaker 1: the kid learn. And I get that, but if you

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Speaker 1: realize that that's how this works. The most ready to

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Speaker 1: play pro football is pick it. So someone's gonna have Picket.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not in your division. Is anybody calling the Jets

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Speaker 1: neither four and ten? You know, because whether they're targeting

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Speaker 1: in a quarterback or somebody else, well calling you guys, um,

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Speaker 1: you've got two picks. I don't think anyone's gonna take

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Speaker 1: a quarterback up there there. It appears to me that

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Speaker 1: they're positioning themselves to maybe the quarterbacks start at nine

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Speaker 1: or ten in there, so you could be done with

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Speaker 1: your players by then. I don't think anyone feels they

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Speaker 1: have to go up to the top six seven picks

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Speaker 1: to take quarterback. But the Jets with that second pick

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Speaker 1: a ton overall, well that might be a hot spot

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback, right, Yeah, and there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: teams that need one. Now what do you think they

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Speaker 1: have to get done in the first round of Jets.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Robert Salo about this yesterday, said, not

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Speaker 1: the good thing that you have a lot of needs,

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Speaker 1: but we have a lot of areas we can address,

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Speaker 1: so you really can't go wrong. You can't go wrong,

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Speaker 1: and you just need to get foundational players not to

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Speaker 1: repeat myself, that can start opening day and be at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season you're confident we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to a second contract with this guy, barring injury. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that being said, I love the pass rush group in

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Speaker 1: the draft, and I don't think you ever have enough

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Speaker 1: pass rushers. The problem is you have to take him

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Speaker 1: with your first pick, because this is gonna be it

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Speaker 1: could come out the first three picks or pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, it could be the Michigan kid, then Walker,

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Speaker 1: then Thibodeaux one to three, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you're going, wait a second, the guy we wants just left. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's just play scenarios here, let's play hypotheticals. If that happened,

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Speaker 1: you go off onto the line again. Where are you

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Speaker 1: with jer Raine Johnson who had a real good week,

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Speaker 1: he had a very good week. I'd be targeting now

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Speaker 1: because if there's the run that I think they're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: Obviously this is all fortune telling, but if it happens

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Speaker 1: that way, I do think that he'll be going a

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Speaker 1: little earlier than he should because no one's gonna want

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Speaker 1: to go past that fourth rusher, So he might be

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Speaker 1: going seven, eight or nine someone in there. But when

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Speaker 1: we get it come off the board, the offensive tackles

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Speaker 1: are gonna look damn good and everyone's gonna be looking

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Speaker 1: at those, and you don't go wrong with tackles. Everyone says, well,

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Speaker 1: you already got one, you got the big I know

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Speaker 1: what get another one. You know you can never have

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Speaker 1: enough for that, and you need to get a receiver

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Speaker 1: for your guy. But I think you can get a

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Speaker 1: receiver somewhere else. If you move down off ten for

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Speaker 1: someone who wants a quarterback, and you go down just

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Speaker 1: two or three spots, you'll get a nice receiver. What

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Speaker 1: do you like at the top? I know you you

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Speaker 1: said this is a good when we're talking about it

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Speaker 1: every year with the receivers. Well, it's it's a league

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Speaker 1: that fifteen years ago in the high school football went

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Speaker 1: to the spread. The basketball players said, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: a six ft four guy. I'm not getting a Division

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Speaker 1: one basketball scholarship. They're throwing the ball fifty times a

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Speaker 1: night on Friday nights in high school football. Let me

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Speaker 1: go and become a first round draft pick. I mean

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Speaker 1: Drake Lendon's that kid is a good example of in basketball.

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Speaker 1: What was he gonna be? Right in football? Is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a first round pick? I the too Ohouse Steak kids.

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Speaker 1: I love a Lava I do. I would love to

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Speaker 1: have him on my football team. Do you love him

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Speaker 1: more than Garrett Wilson? And I liked them a lot,

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Speaker 1: both of them. But everyone's always Wilson. Wilson, Wilson not

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Speaker 1: me interesting. I've interviewed both of them. I like both

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Speaker 1: of them. But you asked me which one i'd take first,

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Speaker 1: I'd be taking Chris and can fly and dynamic with

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Speaker 1: the ball, and he's also done other things that always

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Speaker 1: I'm always looking for a receiver who's not a diva,

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Speaker 1: and Wilson's not a diva. But the guy was the

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Speaker 1: damn gunner on punts. He likes special teams, he likes

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Speaker 1: tackling guys. He gets the team thing. He has more production.

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Speaker 1: I just when I got done with a love. This

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Speaker 1: happens to coaches all the time. When Olave got up

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Speaker 1: and walked away, I turned Jimmy mill and said, I

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Speaker 1: would love to coach that guy. So I've got him

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Speaker 1: pretty high. Okay, uh, Jets, you would think receiver at

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Speaker 1: some point. Whether we're gonna have to see how the

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Speaker 1: rest of free agency trading period plays out. But this draft,

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Speaker 1: he said, loaded with receivers. I want to end with this.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Robert Sala and Joe Douglass

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Speaker 1: in the connection and these guys didn't know each other

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Speaker 1: prior to last year. No, there's a learning curve for everybody,

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Speaker 1: and that's a good thing. It happens is learning curve

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Speaker 1: for owners as well, and sometimes it takes a while

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Speaker 1: for the owners to figure out life. But they looked

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Speaker 1: to me like they got it. Robert's easy got to

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Speaker 1: work with. He just wants to be a good coach,

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Speaker 1: and he's got an opinion about players. And if if

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Speaker 1: Joe's listening to that opinion, they'll land up in harmony

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Speaker 1: and they'll go get him. Everyone should learn from Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: because Buffalo that coach and that GM. And that's really

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Speaker 1: what I just got done talking to John Mara what

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Speaker 1: he said. We watched what happens when you have harmony,

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Speaker 1: and on the air he said, we didn't have a

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Speaker 1: real good line of communication GM and coach. He goes,

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Speaker 1: we want We wanted that, and now we have. I

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Speaker 1: think the Jets have it right now. Peck kerwin, you

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Speaker 1: gotta go take care of your others. This great scene

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Speaker 1: is always