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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 2: Kellen is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's not getting a call back from

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Speaker 2: a date he went on with a girl named Jen

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Speaker 2: that he really likes. So we're going to see if

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Speaker 2: we can find out why she's ghosting Hi in a second,

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Speaker 2: but first let's hear about the date. Callen, what's up.

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Speaker 2: How long has it been since you heard from Jen.

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Speaker 3: It's been a couple of weeks, almost a month now.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so I texted her and just no respond back,

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Speaker 3: and I just I don't know, I thought we kind

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Speaker 4: So why don't we go backwards? Why don't you tell

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Speaker 4: us about, you know, how you guys met and what happened.

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Speaker 3: Well, we we kind of met on Christian Mingle, and uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, we chatted back and forth and whatnot, and

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Speaker 3: and I find out what church she went to, and

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Speaker 3: I showed up. I showed up to surprise her, and

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Speaker 3: and uh, I thought she thought it was cute. And

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Speaker 3: we went to coffee afterwards, and you know, we talked

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Speaker 3: and and just kind of I think we kind of

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Speaker 3: hit it off. And so we thought we planned another,

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Speaker 3: you know, date, because she had our church. There was

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Speaker 3: like a dance sort of event type of thing going

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Speaker 3: on for couples, and I made reservations at the sushi

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Speaker 3: place that was next door to the church, and and

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Speaker 3: so we did that. And yeah, I thought it was

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Speaker 3: a nice, cool little thing that we did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 4: It does seem nice. So were you So you guys

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Speaker 4: were really getting along. Was there any like touchiness or

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Speaker 4: any sparks flying?

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Speaker 3: I just really I really dig her, like she's so

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Speaker 3: dedicated to her church, in her community and her kindness.

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Speaker 3: She is beautiful. I don't know, she just like nobody

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Speaker 3: like I've ever dated before. You know, it's uh uh

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Speaker 3: she makes me want to be better.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think she's ghosting?

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess I hit a little jealous. And so

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Speaker 3: we were at the dance and uh it was one

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Speaker 3: of her friends, male friends, that asked her to dance

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Speaker 3: with her, and I agreed, But I just I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I I think I was. I think it was too

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Speaker 3: butt hurt about it. And if she saw that, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know why I do that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we won't be on to date, so it's like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know it just I guess it's just even

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're also you're on a date with her,

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Speaker 4: so you kind of would hope that your date would

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Speaker 4: dance with you.

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Speaker 2: But but you.

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Speaker 4: Know, friends danced together too. Were you like outwardly angry

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Speaker 4: or was it just.

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Speaker 3: I was? I don't know, I guess I was. I

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Speaker 3: guess I was poudy, you know, I was just.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you didn't try to fight the guy? All right, well, man,

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Speaker 2: we'll see if we can figure it out. Then we'll

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Speaker 2: play a song come back, and then call her and

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Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and

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Speaker 2: hopefully get you another date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, awesome, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, So plaus on, come back, get your

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Speaker 2: first day follow up. Next, it's the double show. Right

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Speaker 2: in the middle of our first day follow up. If

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Speaker 2: you're just joining us, and Kellen is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Jim that

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Speaker 2: he really likes. So we're about to call her and

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Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him. But first, Kellen,

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Speaker 2: why don't you catch everybody up on your situation.

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Speaker 3: Well, we met on Christian Mingle. I went to our church.

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Speaker 3: We we hit it off, and we went to a

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Speaker 3: dance social there at her church and she was dancing

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Speaker 3: with another guy, and that a little jealous, you know.

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Speaker 3: And then and then so I thought I'd text her again.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, see if we can't get a third date,

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Speaker 3: you know, And just no response. Two days later, no response.

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Speaker 3: I try it again again. Spots, I'm like, maybe I

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Speaker 2: You weren't angry jealous? Right, you're poudy jealous?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I was just yeah, a baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was crying.

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Speaker 5: Self awareness.

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Speaker 2: That's cool, all right, man, for you ready for us

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Speaker 2: to call her?

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Speaker 3: I am, let's let's see this all right?

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Speaker 2: Here we go?

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Speaker 6: Hello him?

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Speaker 2: You a speaking to Jim? Please?

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Speaker 6: Yes? This is she?

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Speaker 2: Hey Jen, how are you? My name is Jubel and

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Speaker 2: I'm calling from a radio show. It's called the Jebel Show.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Jen, the whole show is here. My name is Nina. Hi,

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Speaker 5: I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm good?

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Speaker 5: How are you going great?

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Speaker 2: We do a segment on the show it's called the

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Speaker 2: first Date follow Up. That's where if you go out

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Speaker 2: on a date with somebody and then you end up

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Speaker 2: ghosting them, that person can email us to get you

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Speaker 2: on the phone and find out where you're ghosting them. So,

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Speaker 2: is there anybody that you can think of that would

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Speaker 2: want us to call you because you're not calling him back?

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Speaker 6: I mean probably, I guess is it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's Kellen. Yeah, he wants to know why you're

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Speaker 7: Like listen, he was a great guy, and he was

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Speaker 7: you know, it was a nice like couple of dates

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Speaker 7: like a coffee and a date or whatever. But like

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Speaker 7: I found out that he was on Tinder, and like,

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Speaker 7: I just don't really think like our values and stuff

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Speaker 6: So I just don't think we're going to work.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: Did he tell you that he was on Tinder? Are

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Speaker 5: you on tender?

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Speaker 6: No? No, no, no no, I'm not on Tinder.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm like, you know, everybody lived your life.

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Speaker 6: I'm just I'm not.

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Speaker 8: About that, like the s upculture type thing, you know,

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Speaker 8: Like I very specifically, like.

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Speaker 6: This is my first online stuff going.

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Speaker 1: Through Christian Mingle. You know, it's just different.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking for something different and like you know, again

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Speaker 8: the dates, they were great, and I was showing my

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Speaker 8: I've seen him on Tinder. Then we like you know,

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Speaker 8: that's that's him.

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Speaker 1: Cool. So I guess, like, you know, he just.

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Speaker 8: What is it, like a wolf and sheep's clothing, clothing

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Speaker 2: Presented because yeah, you met on Christian Mingle, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: Tender and Christian Mingle I think are very different places.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just mean, just to be clear, Jen,

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Speaker 4: is it because he was on a dating app?

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Speaker 5: Or is it because it was specifically tender?

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Speaker 7: Specifically tender, like you know, like you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 6: It's just it's different than I know, like how a

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Speaker 8: And again like that's totally fine, like live your life,

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Speaker 8: but like it just doesn't match.

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Speaker 1: Up with like the life I'm leading. So like okay, yeah,

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Speaker 7: Just I'm sure there are a lot of things that

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, thank you for being honest with us. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if Kellen's a freak like you think he is,

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Speaker 2: but we can find out. Kellen, are you a freak?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not that kind.

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Speaker 3: Of guy anymore. I should have deleted the app, the

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Speaker 2: Jen, if you couldn't tell, Kellen's on the phone and

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Speaker 2: he's been listening and wants to talk to you, and

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Speaker 2: he's not a freak anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: But yes, I should have deleted Kender. I don't know

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Speaker 3: I let that Christian mingle because I want somebody with

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Speaker 2: You're not really on tender. You just didn't close your account.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, like I left the tender a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: Just didn't I have to delete the app and the

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Speaker 1: Are you even Christian?

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Speaker 8: Like you know, I've heard about people like some guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a Christian. I just you know, I'm

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Speaker 7: They're like, you're tired of these You probably went out

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Speaker 6: I just don't think our values match up.

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Speaker 3: You know, I get it, I understand, but I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm still going to try it. I'm still going to

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Speaker 3: prove myself to you. I truly believe that. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I like you.

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Speaker 5: How are you to prove it?

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Speaker 3: I deleted the app today, That's what I did.

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Speaker 2: And then how are you going to prove to her

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Speaker 2: mingling on Christian mingle, not just the mingling?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I will go to her church every Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I will prove myself. I swear you're the one.

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Speaker 2: Whoa the one that's kind of a lot. Jan, what

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Speaker 2: do you think would you like to go out with

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Speaker 2: Kellen on another date? We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 6: I just don't know.

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Speaker 7: I just again, I don't know if we're both sharing

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Speaker 3: And sorry, maybe it's not a no, you know, I

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Speaker 3: I get it, I get while you're you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: just I'm just bumped again. I uh, but I will

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Speaker 3: be there for you when when you're ready to go

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Speaker 3: on a on a second or another date. I really

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Speaker 3: enjoyed your church. Uh, it's one of the better ones

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Speaker 3: in town. Would be awkward if I still went there.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to make it awkward you, but I

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Speaker 6: The doors are open for everyone.

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Speaker 2: sounds like you're not giving up hope, and Jim, you

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Speaker 5: See how it goes.

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Speaker 4: But just pursue respectfully, Okay, I'm just gonna say that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll be praying for you.

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Speaker 6: Well, I will be praying for you too, And I

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Speaker 6: hope you have a blessed day.

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Speaker 2: All right, they're off the phone. She like patted him

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Speaker 2: on the head big time as he was leaving. Now

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Speaker 2: you would just have a blessed stay there. I'll be

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Speaker 2: praying for you too.

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Speaker 4: That's like the nicest, like if you ever yeah, ju

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Speaker 4: will First day follow up