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Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Monday Morning Podcast. I will not be on TV or

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Speaker 1: radio today, so my thoughts will be on this podcast

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Speaker 1: over the next hour. Matt Mosley co hosting the Doomday podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's covering the Cowboys thoughts on the Big twelve Texas

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma bolting. Let me briefly talk about what has happened

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Speaker 1: in the Las Vegas betting markets. As Aaron Rodgers, according

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Speaker 1: to the betting markets, is going to retire at some

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Speaker 1: point in the next week. I could easily take an

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Speaker 1: anti Aaron Rodgers jab for the next hour. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Packers are a terrible situation. Perhaps it's not

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs or Brady and Tampa, but it's a far

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Speaker 1: better situation from an offensive line perspective and a running

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Speaker 1: game perspective than Russell Wilson's had the last several years.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay develops o lines. He's got a star receiver,

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Speaker 1: a star back. It's a dysfunctional division. He's been given

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Speaker 1: two offensive coaches. But remember, quarterbacks have become American royalty

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Speaker 1: in American sports. Think about how sensitive just the fans

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Speaker 1: in the media got when a mostly washed up Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning was benched. It was a volcano of anger out

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Speaker 1: of America's biggest city. Never forget Jimmy Garoppolo was a

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Speaker 1: second round pick. By year two, Tom Brady went to

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Speaker 1: the owner, Robert Kraft, and said, get him out of here.

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Speaker 1: Big band has been upset multiple times when the Steelers

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Speaker 1: take a quarterback in the second or third round who

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Speaker 1: has no projection to play immediately. So when the Packers

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Speaker 1: move up to get Jordan Love basically saying he is

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Speaker 1: And remember you don't draft a quarterback in the first

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Speaker 1: round and not playing for three to four years. You

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Speaker 1: want to take advantage of that window where he has

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Speaker 1: a small cap hit. That's what Baker Mayfield has right now.

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Speaker 1: That's why the Browns can pull in Jadavian Clowney, build

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Speaker 1: the best offensive line, get Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham.

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Speaker 1: They're not paying Baker or anything for another year. Same

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Speaker 1: the time being, Lamar Jackson, same for Buffalo and Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen before he signs the big deal. So the reality

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Speaker 1: is with Aaron Rodgers, Aaron is sand Listen, I've seen

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Speaker 1: I am not going to sit here knowing you're going

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Speaker 1: to bail on me in a year and my replacements

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Speaker 1: two lockers down. We're not going to do that. Trade

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Speaker 1: me if you want to do that, I want out.

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Speaker 1: That's where I signed with Aaron Rodgers. Look at how

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Speaker 1: sensitive New York got with Eli, Tom got with Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: Big Ben gets. I was talking to a general manager

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Speaker 1: he said multiple times I had to go to Philip

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Speaker 1: liked it. Philip pushed back, and that was not going

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Speaker 1: after a first round quarterback. That was, hey, we may

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Speaker 1: is sensitive, but all these guys are. It's like the

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Speaker 1: joke Howee Long always tells me. It's like you can

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Speaker 1: never have two Hall of Fame quarterbacks in the same room.

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Speaker 1: One sucks out all the oxygen. So Aaron's just saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and dine with me for the next three years, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: but get me out now. I'm not going to sit

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Speaker 1: kicking me into the curb. That's where I totally side

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be replaced when they're in their prime,

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Speaker 1: damned close to it. So Brady got sensitive, Eli got sensitive,

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Speaker 1: Big Ben gets sensitive. Aaron Rodgers has a right to

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Speaker 1: get sensitive. Now. I don't think the grass is greener

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Speaker 1: also has some thoughts in the Olympics. So the Olympics

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Speaker 1: ratings keep going down the World Cup. Meanwhile, the opposite

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Speaker 1: wasn't around. You just didn't know much about Brazilian soccer

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Speaker 1: because all the networks have bought into it, because of

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Speaker 1: the Olympics and will be a mile deep on the

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Speaker 1: the Doomsday podcast, popular Doomsday podcast with Edward or ESPN.

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Speaker 1: I've known Matt forever. When anything happens with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: in Texas, with the Big twelve, he's a Baylor guy,

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Speaker 1: I always bring him in. All right, let's start, We've

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of topics, Matt. Let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones admits last week at a press conference he

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Speaker 1: screwed up the dynasty. First, Were you surprised he admitted it?

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Speaker 1: Had he ever said that privately around you know, the

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Speaker 1: as far as he's ever gone. He's kind of joked

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Speaker 1: What was the reaction in Dallas with his comments. Well,

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Speaker 1: whole news conference, and that's an old Jerry tactic. It's

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Speaker 1: think most of us are kind of worried about him. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. People get older, they get a

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Speaker 1: whatever expected to be number maybe four or five of

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Speaker 1: the country. So this thing's paid off for them. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's hilarious. The way we see this in

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Speaker 1: Texas is they can't stand for little brother, which is

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Speaker 1: A and M to go and have all this success

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Speaker 1: and enjoy the riches and the whatever that come with

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Speaker 1: the sec They just couldn't stand it anymore and they

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Speaker 1: had to go jump in. And what you got to

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Speaker 1: know about ut they may be a great brand, what

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Speaker 1: they all saw are or home wreckers and they screw

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Speaker 1: up everything they join, and they in the Big Twelve

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Speaker 1: gave them everything they possibly could have wanted. Like the

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Speaker 1: Longhorn Network, nobody else got anything. What did oh you get?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even think anything exists up there,

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Speaker 1: like as far as like a special network. We got

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Speaker 1: the rest of us got third tier rights, which means nothing.

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Speaker 1: I mean literally, you don't you know, like it's like

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Speaker 1: watching stuff without broadcasters. I mean there's It's Wholey and

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Speaker 1: then they get their own network. It's not great, it's

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Speaker 1: not a great network, but they got it. So they've

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Speaker 1: been given everything in the world they want. So it's

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Speaker 1: just never enough. So what I tweeted about the other day,

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Speaker 1: and mostly you know a lot of my Twitter stuff

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Speaker 1: is jokes. But the thing that being truthful about is

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Speaker 1: people thought I was joking. Within two or three years.

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Speaker 1: Texas expects every single one of those schools to report

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Speaker 1: to it. They really do. And people say, well, they'll

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Speaker 1: have to fall in line. That won't happen. That's who

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Speaker 1: they are. So you say they're the biggest brand, the

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Speaker 1: USC brand. I saw something today that you maybe you

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Speaker 1: retweeted it. It was like some billion in the billions

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Their brand is the biggest, right above Alabama.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta you actually have to win in the

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Speaker 1: SEC to remain relevant. And they didn't even win in

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve, a conference that quite honestly is putting

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Speaker 1: out no NFL players in Texas couldn't win three titles

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Speaker 1: in twenty five years, and we're supposed to be in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. We're supposed to Oh my gosh, the SEC. Sark.

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Speaker 1: I mean you guys on the West coast, y'all know Sark.

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Speaker 1: I mean Washington and USC. He rehabs his image because

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Speaker 1: he wanted Alabama. But we all think that Sark is

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Speaker 1: going to show up at Texas and just roll. I

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Speaker 1: don't see it, and so I think they're stepping into it.

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Speaker 1: Their fans will get excited for temporary and then they're

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Speaker 1: just gonna go get run. Well, yeah, I mean they're

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Speaker 1: not Alabama, They're not Oklahoma right now, they're not Georgia.

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Speaker 1: They don't have that kind of NFL personnel or LSU.

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Speaker 1: I kind of put him in the Florida, Texas A

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Speaker 1: and M category. But to your point, Jimbo Fisher, in

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Speaker 1: the last two recruiting classes, I have them number five.

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Speaker 1: On my preseason I jot down teams, like you know,

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Speaker 1: I read my Phil Steel and I kind of make

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Speaker 1: my own list, and I think Texas, A and M

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Speaker 1: looks like five or six to me in the country,

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Speaker 1: and I think Texas feels more like eighteen nineteen twenty.

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Speaker 1: So there, I agree. I like Sark more than you,

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Speaker 1: but we agree. A serious question here. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if anybody cares about the Big twelve if Texas and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma leave. But what what happened to like a Baylor

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Speaker 1: Baylor just won a national championship in basketball, Baylor wins

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Speaker 1: a lot of football games, Baylor puts a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys in the NFL. What happens to Baylor and Texas Tech?

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Speaker 1: What happens? Well, I need you to get a hold

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Speaker 1: of this new commissioner in the Pac twelve, George. However,

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Speaker 1: you say his last name Cliakoff, Leivakoff, and they've got

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Speaker 1: to find a place. You're right, the National Sometimes the

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Speaker 1: like ACC that would resonate in the ACC. A team

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Speaker 1: that just won the national title and has a good

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Speaker 1: basketball program, you and see, obviously basketball will always come first,

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Speaker 1: so that would resonate some. But football drives all this

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Speaker 1: so much that I'm not even sure it would matter.

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Speaker 1: Baylor's coming off a poor season the season before that

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Speaker 1: by one to eleven games with the Sugar Bowl played

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Speaker 1: Georgia under Matt rule. Matt Rule just got you know,

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Speaker 1: got the top of Carolina after that, So I don't

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Speaker 1: even sadly a private Christian school that wins in sports

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Speaker 1: and a lot of different sports. It still comes down

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Speaker 1: to what is your brand. And while we're the biggest

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Speaker 1: Baptist university in the country, colin Um, you know, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't match up with Notre Dame. We can't go independent

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Speaker 1: like them. We don't have that kind of mean by us.

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Speaker 1: Made a mistake. They went independent. That's that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a huge mistake. They can't They can't really justify that.

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Speaker 1: Certainly we couldn't either. So but Baylor, Tech and TC

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Speaker 1: you have to do is try to band together. The

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Speaker 1: problem is, Colin when the Big Twelve was formed, Baylor

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Speaker 1: had the governor of the state, the lieutenant governor. The

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant governor was also a Texas Tech grad. He was

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Speaker 1: Baylor law grad and the governor and Richards was a

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Speaker 1: Baylor grad and they both dragged Baylor and Tech into

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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. I'm not liking our lawmaker situation right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're as well positioned. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get some people elected like overnight, but I think we're

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Speaker 1: I think we're running out of time. So um, will

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Speaker 1: you head to the cowboy camp in ox soon. That's

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Speaker 1: a thought. We've got some travel conflicts, but I kind

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Speaker 1: of want to see I think there's a scrimmage. I

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Speaker 1: think the Rams are going to show up in Oxnard

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Speaker 1: and have a little that's always interesting with a pandemic,

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Speaker 1: kind of get a couple of teams together. But I

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Speaker 1: was really wanting to run by for that. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is a there is a decent chance. I'll be

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Speaker 1: there here in my eight days, all right, connect with

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Speaker 1: me in LA when you're out here. Buddy, it's your

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Speaker 1: daughter's birthday today. I'm gonna let you go on a

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, and I appreciate you doing it. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboy and Big Twelves. Thank you very much. Happy

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Speaker 1: birthday to Parker Mosley See. I'll talk to you soon.

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