1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Welcome into a Tuesday edition of 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris. Football on 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a sideline reporter. Plenty going on, Not quite like yesterday 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: where we had the Big five. We had a tons 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: slow extension, we had a Cook's trade, we had a 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Shultz signing, we had a Singletary signing, we had a 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: Deeter's signing. Oh man, catch your kind of kind of 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: it's still kind of free agent frenzy ish, but it's 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: slowing down. See. I thought it was gonna slow to 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: a Crawlmark Vandom here, but it just continues to go on. 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Would you call it a frenzy? Would you call this 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: a frenzy? I don't know what it is. Flurry, it's 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: more than a flurry. It's probably less than a frenzy. Yeah, 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: it's a lot of activity though for this team. Look 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: two years ago when they were coming out of the 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: abyss of twenty twenty, and they kind of stayed in 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: a different kind of abyss. Yeah. Right, But remember when 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Nick got here. Nick's first offseason, he signed all these guys, 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: and he signed capable players and quality guys. This is 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: obviously a cut above right with all due respect shows 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: the pro bowler. Yeah, some of those players were good. 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: Some of these guys have potential to be great, right, 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: and what they do for your team, especially now that 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: you have some other assets and you add to them 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: running back your backfield. Now, Wow, you've got Damian Pearce 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: and Devin Singletary tight end group. We were talking about 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: this right before the Schultz signing. What do they have here? 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: And they definitely need to add to it. Wow, they 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: added Shultz. I know nothing, all right? Is that too dated? 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: That's way too dated? How many people under fifty know that? Reference? 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Sergeant Schultz? Go go look it up. Chris Berman is 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: just dying to do that. So this was my thought. 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: And of course it's interesting. With my wife in LA 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: and my son had gone to bed early. I just 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: kind of alone with my thoughts last night, like, and 36 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this signing because when I saw it, 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: it literally was coming out of the bathroom. Grab my phone. 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: What happened while I was in the bathroom. Oh my gosh, 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: the Texans have signed. Wait does that say Texans and 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz? Wait? Hold on, is that ad Nan Shardoner? 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Is that Tom Paula Sero? No, I mean no, it 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: was Texas signed Dalton Schultz, Texas signed Devons Singletary, And 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: the overrunning thought that came to my mind was there 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: are other free agents looking at that, going oh, what's 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: going on over there? And thought about the Texans for 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: a few years, I hadn't thought about that, or they've 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: been kin out of side up and wait, did you 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: signed Schultz? Man? They get Singletary two and the thirty 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: third team, which is kind of a draft gm NFL website. 50 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: You know, these like PFF will do this too. Potential 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: Texans backfield, potential Jets, skill players, all this kind of 52 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: thing goes on and they put up a graphic. So 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: they put up a graphic yesterday and at the top 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: they had three They had Damian Pierce and Devin's Singletary outside, 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: and then on the bottom they had Metchi Woods, another 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: player I get to the second in Schultz. The player 57 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of the top was Bryce Young. In 58 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: the middle of the player down the bottom was Jordan Addison. 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: So they're projecting the techis taking Bryce at two and 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: then taking Addison at twelve. How do you feel about that? 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: I looked at that, and you know, the first thing 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: I thought was the guy who I walked in the 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: building with on Tuesday morning was not on there was 64 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: Nico Collins. Yeah, and if a couple of commenters right 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: after that said that, and of course then you got 66 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: your you know, your Browns fans that are like they 67 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: got not you know what do they got? Well that 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: compared to what we've had, it's a tremendous night and 69 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: day difference. And to see the thirty third team like 70 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: recognize that. And I'm not saying the thirty third team 71 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: isn't you know whatever, but there are a lot of 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: smart people at that site that have been around the 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: league for a long time. They look at that and go, 74 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: there's something they put the the little blue devil emoji, 75 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: which I was told by the young uns that's a 76 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, oh yeah, that's a good that's a 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: good Yeah. The regular emoji I thought I was thinking logo, Yeah, 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: the dal purple devil emoji. Yeah, that's a good thing. Now. 79 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: That's used for a variety of things, apparently, but apparently 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: in this context it's a very positive football thing. Yeah. 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: So things have been moving in the right direction, but 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: as you noted, there's some things and I actually wrote 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: about this, there's some things happening against the fourteen. Opponents 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: of Texans have got to face this year as well too. Yeah, absolutely, Johnny. 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: When we look at what the Texans have done so far, 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: and clearly things are happening as we speak, right, but 87 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: you look at the rest of the division. Let's start there. 88 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: You did a daily brew on Houston Texans dot com. 89 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: That's a daily column we have with various things thrown 90 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: into it, but it's pretty cool stuff on the website. 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: You should always check out the website for all of 92 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Johnny's stuff and Drew and dep and you know, Johnny's 93 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: breakdowns and things. But you talked about other teams on 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: the Texans schedule, most notably the division and what they've 95 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: do and I think that when you look at what 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: the Texans have done with their team, this is all 97 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: pre draft. We get a long way to go. I 98 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: get it all, right, draft is in a little over 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: a month. But based on what they've done so far, 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: who's better I'm blending the segments here, who's done better 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: for their team this offseason? I'll start here with the 102 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts because they hire Shane Steiken. Good for them, 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people think they never should have gotten 104 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: rid of Frank Reich, but it is what it is. 105 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew joins the phrase a reserve quarterback. He's kind 106 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: of their case, Kingdom, Right, We're gonna draft a quarterback 107 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: who we know we can play with, but we're also 108 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: going to draft a quarterback. Did I say draft? I 109 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: meant sign a quarterback we know we can play with, 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: but we're also going to draft a quarterback. That's they're thinking. 111 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking they've had some losses, they have some assets. 112 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: They still have some assets on that team. But based 113 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: on what they've done so far defensive Van Sampson, Ebukam, 114 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: So it's a good move for them. That's a good 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: addition for them. Yeah, what do you think about what 116 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: they've done to improve their team versus what the Texans 117 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: have done to improve their team? Well, I think the 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Texans obviously in volume they've attacked. I mean, if you 119 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: think about what they've done, they've added. They've added two 120 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: wide receivers. They've added presumably a starting right guard. Don't 121 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: know about center yet. We'll see how that sort of 122 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: plays out. They extended their Pro Bowl left tackle, They've 123 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: added a Bona fide number two weapon X in the backfield, 124 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: presumably a starting tight end depending on how you want 125 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: to classified Dalton Schultz and where he lights up and 126 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So they've done all of 127 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: that on the offensive side of the ball, and I 128 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: don't think they're done. I think they draft a quarterback 129 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: and I think they end up atting another wide receiver. 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: And here's the thing that's fascinating to me about the 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: Texans is and I heard Sean ask Seth this question, 132 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: who would be the leading receiver on the Texans. That's 133 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: usually a question that we have in the offseason when 134 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: we get to slow down a little bit. I've got 135 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: an answer for you right now, based on what we 136 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: have on the squad right now, the leading receiver on 137 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: the tech. But I want to rephrase the question for you, 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: all right, right is the leading receiver on the Texans 139 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: a guy that took a snap for the Texans in 140 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two? I think because you got Noah Brown. Yeah, 141 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: You've got Robert Woods, You've got John Metchi, and you've 142 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: got Dalton Schultz, and you've got a potential rookie maybe 143 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: two coming in. It might be Schultz. Schultz might be 144 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: your leading receiver. It might be. Yeah, But because I 145 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of these catches, Let's say they don't 146 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: draft any receiver, right and they have who they have, 147 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: which is probably not gonna happen. But let's just go 148 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: with this group right now as is, because it's talk radio, 149 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: it's conversation, it's March. Still. I think the catches are 150 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: spread out. I think assuming Metschi gets healthy, gets to 151 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: the starting line, somehow, it plays well. But Metchi playing 152 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: well could be sixty fifty balls could be really good 153 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: season for Metchi, right right, be terrific. I might take 154 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: it right now. Leukemia, yeah, instead of what's behind door 155 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: number two? I might take that right now. Are you kidding? 156 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Because there's a larger health situation here, but we're just 157 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: talking football. Woods, I don't know, forty two years or 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: five two years now removed from the ACL tarr which 159 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: is big. It's big to think about Nico. You know 160 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned the thirty three website. Whatever it is. I 161 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: look at Nico's situation. I get them leaving him out 162 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: because hey, you got to prove you can stay on 163 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: the field, can't make the club at the job and 164 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: all that. He'll make the club, and he's really talented. 165 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: We love Nico. I think Nico is He's got AJ 166 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: Green type body. Yes, now I'm not saying he's AJ Green. 167 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 1: I've never said that, but he kind of reminds me 168 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: of him physically. And I really think Nico's got so 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: much Potentially he could make some good catches too, but 170 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: we all have to see him stay out there consistently. 171 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: If he can give you thirteen games, fourteen games, that 172 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: would be huge this year, and he might be the 173 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: leading receiver, but he still might not. Again, you're spreading 174 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: the catches out, then you still have Shultz. They're gonna 175 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: throw the ball to single Tarry out of the field. 176 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: They definitely will. You know they will in this offense. 177 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: Else read it around. Look we talked about the forty 178 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: nine ers yesterday. Look at how their catches are spread around. Now. 179 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: Things changed with them, especially last year once they got McCaffrey. 180 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: That's skewed everything around because they were definitely going to 181 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: get him the ball. And the Texans don't have McCaffrey, 182 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: but they like to throw to the back if they 183 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: possibly can. And no, by the way, Damian Pierce does 184 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: have great hands. He does have excellent pass catching ability, 185 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: So it might be looking at that saying, hey, I've 186 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: got a guy who can catch the ball, let's use 187 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: him more, right, who knows what he's thinking? Yeah, no doubt. 188 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: And now you got singletary to add in there. Then 189 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: you add in what's been been adding the defensive side. 190 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: Your visual question was have they done more than the Colt? 191 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't think any question that they've added more positives 192 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: on their side than the Colts have. And I think 193 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: the negatives of not bring it back, Obo, not being 194 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: able to sign JR. Nakins, I think those have been 195 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: overcome with what else they've done. But let me throw 196 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: you this. Okay, Colts to me, I'm not done a 197 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: whole lot, which scares me right because they think they 198 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: have a lot already. Let me ask you this, how 199 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: does the question change? Just follow me on this. O. 200 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Steven Holder of ESPN dot com reports that the Colts 201 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: have not ruled out a pursuit of Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson. Yeah, well, 202 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: ruling not ruling it out and actually pulling it off 203 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: are two very different things. So all this is what 204 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: in fact Florio put this on PFT this morning. All 205 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: the way, run at Jackson remains possible for the Colts. 206 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Per holder, the team has not taken any substantive steps 207 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: steps regarding Jackson, according to report, Team sources have expressed 208 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: skepticism about an attempt to woo Jackson, but they've not 209 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: ruled it completely out. If they pull that off. If 210 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: the Colts pull it off, let's say the Texans, what 211 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: they've does, just call it an eight right now. Yeah, 212 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: taking an account what the Colts have done this offseason, 213 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: if they add Lamar Jackson, is it make it it 214 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: greater than an eight? Yes, yes it does. It's Lamar Jackson. Johnny. 215 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: You put Lamar Jackson on the Colts with Jonathan Taylor 216 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: and James Dyke in designing stuff for him after he 217 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: had Jail and Hurts, and he worked with him so well, 218 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: now he's got Lamar Jackson to work with. This is 219 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: going to be ill inducing for sure. In the AFC South. 220 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: They will be the favorites to win the division, if 221 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: not a deep run, certainly a deep run in the playoffs. 222 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: All of that. We thought this about them last year 223 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan, that they were maybe not the favorites 224 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: to win the division, but certainly it was neck and 225 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: neck with the Titans now that they added Ryan. I 226 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: had some doubts about Ryan, but I thought, oh, this 227 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: could really work for them finally. But it didn't, and 228 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: I was so happy about it. The Coults with Lamar 229 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: Jackson is a very deadly thought. Now, a lot of 230 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: the collusion accusations and allegations or whatever they are. I 231 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: look at Lamar Jackson, any team, the guys on Sirius XM. 232 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this yesterday. Asked me if the 233 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: Texans would have considered it. I said what I always say, 234 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure they consider everything. Right. You think about everything, 235 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: you sit around the conference room table, you talk about 236 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: all the possibilities. But with Lamar, it's such a big bite. 237 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: It's two ones, and it's that contract, and his own 238 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: franchise has had great difficulty negotiating an acceptable contract to him. 239 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 1: And I understand how Watson has destroyed the market and 240 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: all of that. He's completely changed the shape of it all, 241 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: and now it's affecting a guy like Lamar Jackson who 242 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: should get as much, if not more money. Do you 243 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: think the cults are going to do that? If they do, 244 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: it's a jim Er say Hey, we need to do 245 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: this because he's in mind. He keeps in mind, I 246 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: gotta sell tickets, you know. I see what's going to 247 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: happen in that building if we don't win. That's the 248 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: house that Manning built, and it just doesn't go as 249 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: well without Manning or Luck. We all know that it's 250 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: a smaller market. They need to drive things, and they 251 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: want to win, and winning fills the seats, and Lamar 252 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Jackson certainly fills the seats, so it wouldn't completely shock me. 253 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: I think Ballard would be less likely to want to 254 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: do it. I think him or say would probably want 255 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: to do it. Let's roll the dice and go with it. 256 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: And I could see Ballard saying, look, boss man, it's 257 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: your money. I mean, you gotta put you gotta put 258 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: the money, and you gotta put the money in ascrow. 259 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: I'll go I'll give up the ones. I mean, Ballard 260 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: shown he can give up the ones you want. The downside, though, 261 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: what's the downside? The downside is all right, I give 262 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: away the ones to a guy like Ballard, and I 263 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: can't speak for him, but I'm imagining this to a 264 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: guy like Ballard. I get it to the situation where 265 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: I'm pushing the chips to the center of the table 266 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: and I'm going Ram like, I'm effing them picks right 267 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: here and a lot of money. You know, it's gonna 268 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: be cap issues, all right, to give Lamar the contract 269 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: he surely wants, I lose picks. It's kind of like 270 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: the situation the Texans were in, and we see what 271 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: happens if you don't win with everything you push to 272 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: the center of the table. But if I'm bleeping in picks, 273 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: it better be for a quarterback. Yeah, I'm okay with 274 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to. Yeah, the Rams did it for 275 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: a corner. They've done it for they did it for 276 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: other positions. They I think they did it for von 277 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: Miller too, and those are premium positions. But to me, 278 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: if you say bleep them picks for a quarterback, okay 279 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: now now, now I'll get in that discussion with you. 280 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: But if you want to say bleep them picks for 281 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: a priority position is not quarterback. I'm like, can we 282 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: kind of dial this back a little bit? And I look, 283 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I know what we did for for there. I mean, 284 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: I know Laramie has worked out, He's worked He's one 285 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: of the ones that's worked out. He is staying here. 286 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: Where's Dalen Ramsey going? Where did von What did Von 287 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Miller do? He showed up as a higher gun and 288 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: got out, So let me Tunsel is staying and we 289 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: I still at that point feel like we could have 290 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: pulled that off without including a second one in there. 291 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: So going in there and saying bleeped in picks, yeah, 292 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: due for a quarterback and a quarterback of his stature. 293 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: That's I'm talking myself of the fact that there could 294 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: they could do it. And I don't like the fact 295 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: that it's very quiet right now about this and just 296 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: don't like that, am I right? Is Lamar Jackson's addition 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis? Does that make them the AFC South favorite? 298 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: For sure? Yes? With that? Okay, even Lawrence putting Lamar 299 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Jackson on the Titans, does it do the same? Oh? Yes, Okay, Well, 300 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: I take it back. I don't know if it automatically does. 301 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: But here's what I think, is Derrick Henry and Lamar 302 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: Jackson in the backfield. Yike, stop it, stop it. I 303 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: can only handle so much now. Apparently the Derrick Henry 304 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: trade rumors are just a big popcorn, you know what? 305 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's nothing. Apparently they're not. No, we're not 306 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: getting rid of Dereck Henry. So yeah, Lamar Jackson and 307 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Yeah, Tennessee. I think the Colts roster right now, 308 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: with all that has gone on in Tennessee, I don't 309 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: see Tennessee doing it because I think Tennessee's on the 310 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: verge of saying, look, let's just let's quietly reset this thing. Yeah. 311 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: And they've added some pieces though, but not great piece. No, 312 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: they're not dealing with piece. Good pieces, but not like Wow. 313 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: To me, it's been more about the subtractions. Luan released, 314 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: Ben Jones released. I mean, the offensive line still hasn't 315 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: been fixed, but they've added back to the offensive line. 316 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember who they added somebody in the 317 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: offensive line that was dang, it escapes me. Andre Dillard. 318 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: Andre Andre Dillard weren't the Texan's supposed to draft to 319 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: him according to the fans. Yeah, I wanted him too. 320 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: I like Area Dillard, Daniel Brunskill from San Francisco. Obviously, 321 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: the Ran Carthon thing. Here's the thing about adding Lamar. 322 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: To me, if either Colts or the Titans and this 323 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: is not a good thing. But if I'm a player 324 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: in the Titans of the Colts and I see my 325 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: organization go all in to go get Lamar Jackson. Take, 326 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: for instance, Jeffrey Simmons, like, I know everybody wants their paper. 327 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: I know that. I don't know they want the bag. 328 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: I get all that. But Jeffrey Simmons knows the Titans 329 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: will pay him. Yeah, they'll pay him. It's a matter 330 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: of does he want to come back to this? But 331 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you see Lamar Jackson added, 332 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: and you're like, yo, I'm in Kevin Bayard. They asked 333 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: him to take a pay cut. Now does he want 334 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: to request a trade and all that? Well, what if 335 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's coming in? Is he gonna want to do 336 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: that same thing with the Colts? If you have impending 337 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: free agents or your own free agents, and you're you know, 338 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: haggling a little bit, and guys deciding what I want 339 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: to go here? I want to go there. Well, dang it, 340 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: they just signed Lamar Jackson. I want to be there. 341 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: I definitely want to be There's kind of the same 342 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: thing with the Texans. Seeing Schultz and Singletary added, I 343 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: think kind of caught the attention of people, maybe impending 344 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: free agents about wait a second, maybe not this year, 345 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: but hey, I need to watch this and kind of 346 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: see how this works out, because maybe that's an option. 347 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Because they're starting to add a few things there. You 348 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: had Lamar Jackson to the mix in Indianapolis or Tennessee. 349 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: I think you get your own free agents to start 350 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: getting excited about the place, and I think you get 351 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: impending free agents to get excited about coming there. Now, 352 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: Lamar may take all the money, but at that point 353 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: you figure it out. Do you know we have spent out, 354 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: We have spent a lot of time talking about him. 355 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: He is God's latest gift to talk radio, Lamar Jackson. 356 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: But I'll ask you one more here on him. You 357 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: put him on the Texans, on the Texans, the favorites 358 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: in the division. Yes, really, yes, with everything they've added, yes, okay, yes, 359 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: Well I know people will I know people want to 360 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: be in a wait and see mode. Yeah, well, everything 361 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: and see. But if we get and that means the 362 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: Colts and Titans aren't getting him, that also means that 363 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: we're going toe to toe with the Jaguars with Lamar, 364 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Damian Pierce and Devin singletary with Dalton Schultz because to me, 365 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz, Dalton Schultz is a key for Lamar. I mean, 366 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: how many throws did Mark Andrews getting during a game? 367 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: That's what Dalton Schultzen's up doing. I mean, yeah, yeah, 368 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: I think it would be close. I mean the Jaguars 369 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: saying would be like, nah, yeah, pood yet, well you're 370 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: about to see that isn't happening. That's not happening, right, 371 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: But Lamar might say I threw a lot to Andrews 372 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: because he's awesome and I needed more receivers. Yeah, I 373 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: needed more receiver Yeah, no doubt um and I truly, 374 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: but at that point, if I'm Dalton Schultz, I'm like, 375 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm catching eighty passes this year. Yeah, he likes it, 376 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: he would like it. I'll take it. But yeah, I 377 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: think Lamar Lamar to any of the three of the 378 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: teams not named Jacksonville, Yeah, I think it would make us, 379 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: if anything, if it didn't make us the favorite, I 380 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: think everybody would be like, yo, U Houston b became 381 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: very very dangerous. Yeah, here's the thing. We need to 382 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: keep Lamar out of the division. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, 383 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: unless that somehow guest of the Texans for a third 384 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: round or say in Baltimore will face you this year 385 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: up in Baltimore. That's that's fine. Hey, go to that 386 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: Cam Newton work out at aper and and maybe never mind, right, Johnny, 387 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: We were doing this exercise to see what the other 388 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: teams have done in the division. The other opponents were 389 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: going to run out of segment. But the Jacksonville Jaguars 390 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: they've added some well what are they at? Calvin Ridley 391 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: he comes back. Yeah, that nice addition for them. Yeah, 392 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: they traded for him last year. That was actually a 393 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: brilliant move. They traded for him last year while he 394 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: was suspended. It's like a Larry Bird draft right move. 395 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: And then they then they reinstated him in February to 396 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: the league and wow, wow, that's a big addition. That's 397 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: a huge addition. They have weapons. Ingram's back. That was 398 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: a big weapon for them. Yeah. Yeah, to have Ingram franchised, 399 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: to get him back for just another year, keep growing. 400 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they'll eventually get a long term 401 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: deal done. He is. He has talked about how much 402 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: he wants to be in Jacksonville, which you didn't hear 403 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: for a long time. I want to stay in Jacksonville. No, 404 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: he wants to stay in Jacksonville, so I think they'll 405 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: get a long term deal done with him. I don't 406 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: like done. So you could say, yeah, the Texans have 407 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: done a lot more addition to their team, a lot 408 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: more adding of talent to their team than the Jags 409 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: have to theirs. But the Jags were already there. They're 410 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: the defending champions right now. But where's the one what's 411 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: the one area? Though? You don't want to see players 412 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: pulled away from Yeah, and he lost Juwan Taylor, a 413 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: bigger loss than people are letting on. Well, I think 414 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: the better your quarterback is, the more established he is. 415 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't call Trevor Lawrence totally established, but he's 416 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: certainly on his way up to be one of the 417 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: better guys in the league, one of the best guys 418 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: in the league, unless he gets derailed like I think 419 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: he will. That wishful thinking talking was that inside voice 420 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: or out say hope? Yeah yeah. So I think the 421 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: better your quarterback is, the more confident you are that 422 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: his ability can make up for some issues or development. 423 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: I should say along the offensive line, we can afford 424 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: to develop this guy because our quarterbacks good. He'll get 425 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: rid of the ball, he knows how to take care 426 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: of things. They'll play better because he's better. You know 427 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: the Brady effect that he had on the line in 428 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: New England. Right, some of those guys go other places 429 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: they're not quite as good, but Jack Mason is. So 430 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: that's nice. But we've seen it before with other players. 431 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: With them, you see what happens with Mahomes and the shifting. 432 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: You know, Look, they've reset the line what two and 433 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: a half times since he started, and they're still going 434 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: strong here coming off of titles. That happens with good quarterbacks. 435 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: They had an offensive line in nineteen for the Chiefs, 436 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: then totally reset it in twenty one, and now they're 437 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: resetting the outside yet again. Yeah, fascinating in some sense 438 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: to think about it. I mean fascinating to think what 439 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: they've been able to do with Mahomes there. It's going 440 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: to be like Brady and New England in that we 441 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: always talk about this. The players around change and it 442 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: feels like it's the same team, but it's really not. 443 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: You just see that one guy there, maybe a couple 444 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: of others like Kelsey and the coach and as long 445 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: as you have that nucleus, players around them change and 446 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: it feels like the same team, but it's a different squad. 447 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: You have to roll it over. They understand this. Andy 448 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Reid understands this as well as anybody in football, and 449 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: they're doing that. And look, the Jags aren't doing that yet. 450 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: But Bill O'Brien said it. Every year is different. Every 451 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: team is going to be different every year. Nick Caserio 452 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: certainly understands this, and the Texans have been very different 453 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two, and here they 454 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: are again and looking as good as they've looked in 455 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: a long time on paper heading into the draft. Yeah, 456 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: no doubt. If you want to check out what I 457 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: wrote about each team, go to East Texans dot com. 458 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Go find a Harris Hits and you'll find a daily 459 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: Brew from Friday, and you'll see I came up with 460 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: three significant additions or deletions from each team, significant impact 461 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: moves each team that the Texans face. So it's fourteen opponents. 462 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: Is that fourteen opponents? Fourteen opponents right? Because three division? Yeah, 463 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: that sounds right, That sounds about right. So go check 464 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: that out and you can see what impact moves I 465 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: said each team has made to this point. Also coming 466 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: up next, a guy that I have a history with 467 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: sat down with Mark and this is fun. Max Stark's 468 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: former offensive linment of Pittsburgh Steelers. Next right here in 469 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: Texas All Access and it just gets busier here in 470 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: Houston for your Houston Texans. Welcome back to Texas All Access. 471 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst. Texans made official 472 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: today a couple of signs. You are you knew about 473 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: Deeter in Singletary, but also today Corey Littleton linebacker, pro 474 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: bowler twenty eighteen. Oh yes, I know five years ago 475 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: with the Rams, but he's played with the Raiders. He 476 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: has stayed consistent throughout the league, very good cover linebacker. 477 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: But Corey Littleton added to the Texans and the linebacking group. Wow, 478 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: that was a I mean those I guess three positions 479 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: that were announced today with Littleton linebacker, with Deeter at 480 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: center guard, center guard and Singletary running back, and three 481 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: positions definitely of need adding to the mix with veterans 482 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: that have done it and been successful. Good to see 483 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: that for the Texans. So who things are staying busy 484 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: in Htown Nick Casserio and his staff, Mika Ryan's getting 485 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: things done for your Texans. Now, our next guest is 486 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: someone that I actually have a history with. Now, I 487 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: missed out on the opportunity because I was over the 488 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: Bowl watching workouts and Mark was back doing work and 489 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: doing interviews. And one table in front of us was 490 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers table. Now every team has a table basically, 491 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: unlike in twenty fifte they were like eight tables and 492 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: eight teams. That was it. And it's grown and grown 493 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: and grown and grown. So the Steelers were there and 494 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: Max Starks was an offensivelignment for them, played for them 495 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: for a while, played the University of Florida, but we 496 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: also played Lake Highland Prep High School in Orlando. I 497 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: bring that up because I coached against Max Starks. Now, 498 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Max Starks might be the largest human being you've ever seen. 499 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Duwan Jones has gone to number one Ohio state tackle. 500 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: Who was in this draft? Max Starks now was number two. 501 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: But when I was in my first year high school 502 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: coach and my first year as head coach, we got 503 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: the film to play like Highland Prep. And as I'm 504 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: watching it, I could see that the two tackles are 505 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: pretty big. I'm like, that guy's probably two forty. That 506 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: guys two seventy. So we go to the game and 507 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I see the other tackle walk on the field and 508 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: like he's almost three hundred pounds. I'm like, if he's 509 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: that big and how big is Oh my god, that 510 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: kid who's a junior sixteen years old Max Starks six 511 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: to eight, three fifty and could move in that playing 512 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: the league. He's also Travis Johnson's cousins. So last year 513 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: at the Combine, I finally got a chance to tell 514 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: Max Starks the story of actually playing against him, and 515 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: so we chatted for about an hour and he told 516 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: me all about his relationship to his cousin Travis Johnson, 517 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: and so I got the whole recruiting story, etc. Well, 518 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: Mark had a chance to sit out with Max Starks 519 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of fun. Take a listen, 520 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: it's Max Starks, former Pittsburgh Steeler and current Pittsburgh Steeler. 521 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: Really you're always a Steeler, right, yeah, wants the Steeler, 522 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: always a Steeler, right subcapacity and you're always on the 523 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: air with the Steeler Nation Radio that people can hear 524 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and everywhere. Really digitally yeah, no, so we 525 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: go on air and then you know, there is no 526 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: off season now with the NFL, and so when I'm 527 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: not working for them, you know, I'm I work for 528 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 1: SXM as well, so oh yeah, I'm always broadcasting absolutely 529 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: all right. So let's get into some nuances here, because 530 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: the Texans Laramie Tunsel and Titus Howard at tackle, right, 531 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: and you played for the Steelers at a time when 532 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: the Texans broke in Dwayne Brown at tackle in O eight, 533 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: the opener, it was rough for him. And I want 534 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: to go here with you because I Dwayne told me 535 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: that it takes three or four years to really figure 536 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: out what you're doing on the old line, and I 537 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: think fans might get impatient with offensive lineman in particular, 538 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: the development it takes. Can you speak to that a 539 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: little bit? How long it took you to really get 540 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: going in your career and feel really comfortable? Well, you know, 541 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: I mean, Dwayne's absolutely right. And Dwayne is a good buddy, 542 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, and a guy that you look at his 543 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: career just I mean, was a stalwart, I mean from 544 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: day one. But he's right, like a lot of it, 545 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: you depend on your athleticism and you kind of trust 546 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: the guy next to you early on in your career 547 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: to really get yourself going because everything's coming at you 548 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour and you never really It's 549 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: like drinking water out of a fire hose, right, you know, 550 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: because especially if you're a day one starter like Dwayne 551 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: was projected, and like you expect a lot of guys 552 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: that you're going to draft in the first round, right, 553 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: he's got to start right now. I need him now. 554 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: It's a microwave society, and for a lot of guys, 555 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: it's okay, how do I fit into the scheme? How 556 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: do I fit the personality groups? Because offensive line is 557 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: different than any other position, All five guys across the 558 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: board have to be on the same page and operate. 559 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: I know you say, oh, well an offensive or defensive. Hey, 560 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: everybody has to be on the same page. No, no, no, 561 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: you can freestyle a little bit, right, right. You know 562 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: I had Troy Paulamalo, right, you know, Troy would do 563 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: whatever Troy wanted to do within the cut. So you're 564 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I just need to do my job. 565 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: Offensive line. We've got to communicate, and how we pass 566 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: that communication amongst each other. Every single snap matters, And 567 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: do I feel comfortable that if I'm yelling a play 568 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: call or a deuce or a double or whatever the 569 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: responsibility is, the d lineman by the second quarter has 570 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: already picked up all my keys. So now how do 571 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: we nonverbally communicate? How do we get the nuances to 572 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: think like, oh, we both see the same thing. We 573 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: know what we're supposed to do, so we don't need 574 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: to talk like that takes about two to three years. 575 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: And if you ever notice any great offensive lines, they 576 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: have to play together for about two three years before 577 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: you called them great, like people talked about the Dallas line. 578 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: Then you look at now what Philadelphia's offensive line is like. 579 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: Those guys have played together for three years, and so 580 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: you get the proof in the pudding when you have 581 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: guys who play together. So, but for the development of 582 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: a tackle specifically, you might want to try and get 583 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: a guy to right tackle first right, just to slow 584 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: it down and get it to ninety miles an hour, 585 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: because normally the best pass rusher is now on that side. 586 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: He's usually on the left side. But now in today's 587 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: INNFL that's not the case, right T J Watt, Nick 588 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: Bosa even Hassan Reddick. They come from the opposite Micah Parsons. 589 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: These guys are now lining up on the right side 590 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: of the offense and coming off because they're like, that 591 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: right tackle is not as good as that left tackle, 592 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: and now you have to develop those guys a lot 593 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: faster as well. But it's just it's a terminology and 594 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: it's a feel and those lineman you don't mature into 595 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: your adult body as an offensive lineman until about twenty 596 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: six years old, and that's where you see the sweet 597 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: spot and when you're seeing guys really start to get 598 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: it is right around there. So if you get a 599 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: twenty one year old offensive lineman, he's still not mentally 600 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: ready for what this is as a job in a profession. 601 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: So that's why you usually want a twenty two year old. 602 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: You want a guy who's at least a little bit 603 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: more mature, because you got to hit that twenty six 604 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: year old mark, which is usually at the end of 605 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: the first contract right nowadays, unless you're a first rounder 606 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: that you can get that fifth year option. But you 607 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: want to get that guy right there in the middle 608 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: of his twenties because that's when he has a sense 609 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: of self. The spatial awareness to go with the athleticism 610 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: to really be a dominant guy on the edges. Because 611 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: you're on the island, you know, interior. You can kind 612 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: of fake it a little bit. You can roll coverages, 613 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: make a mic id to help that weaker guard out, 614 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: or you can bump a guy in, or you can 615 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: have a running back release through the or the b 616 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: gap in the middle to give them a little bit 617 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: of a bumper. But it tackled, there is no bumper. 618 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you get a chip from a tight end 619 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: every once in a while, but you can't just rely 620 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: on I've got to run out of left formation every 621 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: single time because we don't trust our tackle on the 622 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: edge right. You've got to be able to vary it. 623 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: So it takes time to get into that system. Max 624 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: starts joining US Farmer, Pittsburgh Steeler among other teams. We 625 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: won't get into those just right now, but along those lines, 626 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: Max is it harder than ever in the sense that 627 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: the way the offseason is constructed now. I mean no 628 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: hitting obviously, and in training camp very little and you're 629 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: wearing the guardian helmets and everything, and I don't know 630 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: how you get better then, But really a training camp. 631 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: You can start to hit a little bit, but you 632 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: guys need to hit right. Your group needs to hit 633 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: to get better. And I've heard a lot of people say, hey, 634 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: it might not take till a week four in the 635 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: regular season, because that's when the real action begins. Yeah, 636 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: it might not take to a week four. And if 637 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: you know certain teams, you know this past year a 638 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: lot of offensive lines did not go out there together 639 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: and play in the preseason because seasons also very formidable 640 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: to work out the kinks. Our group for the Steelers 641 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: played all the preseason together. Okay, so they were because 642 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: they were just so new. I mean, we had two 643 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: new guys there at center and right guard, and then 644 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: we also had a competition at the left guard position. 645 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: And then it was both of our tackles, our our 646 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: left tackles, a second year guy, Dan Moore over there 647 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: from Texas A and M. And then we had chokes, 648 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: a core for who was making the move because we 649 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: were trying to play him at left, moved him back 650 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: over to right. So you had five guys working together 651 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: for the first time, so you really needed to work 652 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: them out. But then you see Cincinnati brought in free agents, 653 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: had a young rookie. None of them played together to 654 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: a week one when they saw the Steelers, and we 655 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: saw how that maturation process it played a while. Took 656 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: a while for that, and so if you're gonna have 657 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: new pieces, if you're gonna roll in and try and 658 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: put in a new system, it's going to take I 659 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: would say week four to week six easily before you 660 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: can really see the guys working together on the double 661 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: team blocks, communicating, passing off stunts that the defense might do. 662 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna get me sloppy at the beginning of the season, 663 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: and you're right, you don't get to hit. So now 664 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: a lot more onus has put on the off season 665 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: facilities that guys train at. Like where you go to 666 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: train in the offseason matters. Are you around other offensive linemen? 667 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: You know? I work also at a place called AMDG 668 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: Sports out in Phoenix, and that's O line only, So 669 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: we literally have twenty six offensive linemen in the same 670 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: gym doing the stuff together. And they might be on 671 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: different teams, but they get to work the double team 672 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: blocks together on the pads, they get to work skill acquisition, 673 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: like you'll have ten tackles working on pass pro sets together. 674 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: Because a lot of the teaching has been taken out 675 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: of that offseason. Like you said, with a no contact 676 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: the limited meeting time. You know, you have twenty hours 677 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: a week or something like that you're allowed to be 678 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: on the field, and then when the coach is not there, 679 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: guys are gonna go on the field. Is so much 680 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: fun to practice? Yeah, exactly, all right, man, I can't 681 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: wait to go out there and hit a pad with 682 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: my buddy holding it. So you know, we've decided that 683 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: you have to take that curve somewhere else. And so 684 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: now you start to see specialized gyms. You know, you 685 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: talk about the dB facility that Ryan Clark runs down 686 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: in Louisiana where all the dbs like to go down 687 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: to train. So you're getting these specialized places around the 688 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: country where guys can go because you need that extra help. 689 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: You need that extra physicality as an offensive lineman. You 690 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: don't want the first time you hit a guy on 691 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: a double team to be in training camp. And with 692 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: that what I call the great Kazoo helmet, you know 693 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: from the Bloodstones. Right, it's a dated reference, Max, but 694 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: I get it. You understand some of your guys listening 695 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 1: and women understand what we just said, but those helmets also, 696 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, and this is my personal opinion coming from 697 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: an era where we didn't use those, It leads to 698 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: bad habits, and we saw early on in the season, 699 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of guys leading with their head because 700 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: you had that guardian cap as a buffer, you know. 701 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing where I'm like, it's great 702 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: for special teams, right, for guys running off on kickoff 703 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: coverage and everything else. It makes sense because of the 704 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: high velocity impacts it decreases it. But if you're wearing 705 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: it in practice as an offensive and defensive linement, I 706 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: can now butt with my head and I don't feel it. Yeah, 707 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: So that leads to a lot of guys leading with 708 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: their head early on. So I wish that was something 709 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: where I get the overall safety and it minimizes forty 710 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: percent of the concussions that happened in training camp. But 711 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't have any benefit in the regular season because 712 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: guys know how to practice by then, right, So it's 713 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: a gift and a curse with that guardian cap, but 714 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: you still need the physicality as alignment. Max Stark's joining 715 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: US two times Super Bowl champion, all right, So you're 716 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: part of the team that broke in Ben Roethlisberger, right, yeah, 717 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: And you also observe the breaking in of Kenny Pickett 718 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: last year. And I don't know what the Texans are 719 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: going to do a quarterback as we speak here, but 720 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: if they have to break it a new quarterback, that's 721 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: kind of a painful process in some cases. How do 722 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: you think it went with pick it because it looked 723 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: good at the end of the year. It looked like 724 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: he really upped his game. You had some emotional and 725 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: meaningful victories toward the end of the year. Well, I 726 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: think with any young guy coming in, because right I 727 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: came in with Ben. We were drafted together, and Ben 728 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: started on the depth charts number four going on a 729 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: training camp. So you look at he starts out at 730 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: number four. Charlie Batch, who's our two, breaks his collar 731 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: boning camp. Okay, now he moves up to number three. 732 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: Now Brian Saint Pierre gets sick, and now Brian Saint 733 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: Pierre is now off, and now Ben's number two going 734 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: into week one. Tommy Maddox, Tommy Maddox is there. We 735 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: get into week two down in Baltimore, Tommy gets knocked 736 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: out by that ferocious Ravens defense, and now Ben's asked 737 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: to step in the second half of the game and 738 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: almost wins it back. But wee get in and we're like, oh, man, okay, 739 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: this is our starter after week two is the rookie 740 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: first round pick. Everybody's happy, but we also knew we 741 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: have to limit the exposure of Ben. The one thing 742 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: that was good when Ben got drafted, the defense was 743 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: already there. We had a top defense at that time. 744 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: We had a young Troy Paulobarlo that was breaking in. 745 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: He was in year two at that point. But you 746 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: had Chad Scott on one side, to Shay Townsend on 747 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: the other, Joey Porter, Clark Hagen's, Kimo Von Olhoffen, Aaron Smith, 748 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: Casey Hampton, and James Ferry and Larry Foot So we 749 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: had a pretty good and Chris Hope was our other safety. 750 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: We had a pretty good defense in place. And then offensively, yes, 751 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: they were coming off of a bad year, but yet 752 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: Marvel Smith, Alan Fantaka and Jeff Hardings that's a very 753 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: veteran left side, and then Keith Rick Vincent Oliver Ross 754 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: were journeymen older lineman seventh and eighth year in the 755 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: league that comprise you're starting and Jerome Bettis and Do 756 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: Stalley in the backfield, Plaxico on one edge, Hines on 757 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: the other, Antoine Randolell as your other slot receiver. So 758 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: everything was in place to insert quarterback here, right, And 759 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: so what happened was we said, Okay, Ben, you're only 760 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball no more than twenty times a game. 761 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: Manage those twenty you can do whatever you want. We're 762 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna run the ball, and we're gonna play tough defense. 763 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: And that really insulated and helped Ben grow as a 764 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: quarterback as he went through the process because it was like, 765 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: we want you to be yourself, and we saw the 766 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: Ben that can shake off a sack from like, you know, 767 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: a big dude Darrell Suggs coming around the edge. But 768 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: he also knew that, Okay, I'm gonna get these two 769 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: or three reads twenty times a game. Other than that, 770 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: trust the offensive line to run the football. And that's 771 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: how we were able to win early on. And then 772 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: you saw Ben probably about year four, really come into 773 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 1: his own to where he was running the offense himself. 774 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: Him and Bruce arians created more of a passing game 775 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: that suited his strengths, and you brought in guys to 776 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: facilitate that, and you saw us become more of a 777 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: pro style offense, but we were a very run heavy 778 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: offense early on to compensate for Ben and make sure 779 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: that gave him the time to mature into that position. Man, 780 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: that was great stuff from Max Starks talking about their 781 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: rise with the Steelers, and so much good stuff up 782 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: there with Mark Vandermere as well. All right, we get back. 783 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty caught up with a guy who is absolutely 784 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: a blast to talk to, Joey mullen Arro doing impressions. 785 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: Next on Texans All Access, What's Up Everybody? One final 786 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: segment of this edition of Texans All Access on a 787 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: wonderful Tuesday evening. Hope you're well wherever you are. I 788 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: am your host, John Harris Football on a sideline reporter. 789 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: It's time to have a laugh, and not at my 790 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: or Mark's expense either. Joey mullen Arro, you see him 791 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter. He does tremendous impressions and Drew had a 792 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: chance to catch up with him. We saw him an Indian. 793 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: Some good stuff here, especially when Nick Saban talks about 794 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: Bryce show, Well, that's kind of your prerogative mine because 795 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't coach that team. I coach my team and 796 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: my program, all right, So you want to take care 797 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: of that. That's fine. I'll say he's a fine player. 798 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: I love Bryce who did a lot of good thanks 799 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: for us, But I'm gonna stay here and make the 800 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: draft pick for you. All right. That's your program. You're 801 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: intimidating me, and I love your storybo When you did 802 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: finally see what was that like? It would take me 803 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: back to that instance. It was a whole realm of emotions. 804 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: When was this, by the way, just for those that 805 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: don't know, it was twenty It was January beginning of 806 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: February twenty twenty two at the Senior Bowlmobile. Okay, I 807 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: was a part of this summit at the Sanger Theater 808 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: down there, me Kirk Herbstreet, Nick Saban at the time 809 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: to head coach Auburn Brian Harson. Yeah. So you know 810 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: we had this whole big synergy of their promote. You know, 811 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: Joey's gonna MC and Coach Saban's gonna be there and 812 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: Herbie's there, big deal something great like I'm actually finally 813 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: gonna get to meet him because it's all been hearsay, 814 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: like his daughter has been like, oh I showed to 815 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: him all the time. He loves the videos. Oh my 816 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: mom loves the videos. Like, you know, never met the man. 817 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, finally gonna get to meet him. Comes down. 818 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: It's that night. We're running forty minutes over. The man's pissed. 819 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: The man is absolutely fuming because he's already on a 820 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,479 Speaker 1: recruiting trip, but it's taking time out of his recruiting trail. 821 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: So I'm backstage and I'm seeing him from from me 822 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: to Mark there, and he's pacing what like he does 823 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: on the sidelines, like when you know they're only up 824 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: by like thirty five on Troy. What's that to you know, 825 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: in the situation you're in you because you gotta juggle 826 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: all this other stuff too, right, And like I think 827 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: I can put myself in his headspace pretty well, right, 828 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, this is not a good time 829 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: to go talk to him because he's just doing that 830 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: slow walk and I'm like, Okay, I gotta I'm not 831 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: gonna let this moment pass, right. He gets off the stage. 832 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: Finally they're all wrapped up, they're done. He's coming over, 833 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: walking towards me. I'm like, this is it. I'm gonna 834 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: be the first one riot as he gets off stage. 835 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna introduce myself and hopefully it registers. Went 836 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: introduce myself did not register. He had his handlers around him. 837 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: I shook his hand, he didn't even make eye contact 838 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: with me, and he just dropped the oh lot and 839 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: then just walked away and never saw him again. And 840 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: my wife was like, you kind to make him out 841 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: to seem like a bad guy. I'm not meant listen, 842 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: He's in Mobile, Alabama, the heart of right, I mean 843 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: all the fans right, Like, he needed to get out 844 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: of there, so he didn't have time to just like 845 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: stop and shit chat or else he would have gotten bombarded. 846 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: So I understand. It's just pretty hilarious us. And I 847 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: think on point for the personality that I portray in 848 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: my impression of him, right, that he just don't have time. 849 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: That is a fantastic impression of Saban by Joey Melanaro, 850 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: And that is one hundred percent a number of people's 851 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: experience with Nick Saban. He just doesn't have time if 852 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: it doesn't contribute to winning. I feel like I've heard 853 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: that before, all right, mag Thanks to Joey, to Drew, 854 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: to Max Starks, to Mark, to all of you, to 855 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: my Manchus Santiago, see aut tomorrow, and as always, go Texans.