WEBVTT - Terry "TR" Ross 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:00.960 Speaks to the planet. 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:02.560 I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God and 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:04.920 guess what, I can't wait to see y'all at the 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.319 third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right, We're coming 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.360 back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April twenty six at Poeman 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.840 Yards and it's hosted by none other than Decisions Decisions, 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.560 Mandy B and Weezy. Okay, we got the R and 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.319 B Money podcast, were taking Jay Valentine. We got the 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.919 Woman of All podcasts with Sarah Jake Roberts. We got 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.479 Good Mom's Bad Choices. Carrie Champion will be there with 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.440 her next sports podcast and the Trap Nerds podcast with 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.200 more to be announced. 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We 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.880 are the authority. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.759 Ladies and gentleman Mon him his tank Valentine and this 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:10.040 is the only funny podcast Tell what it is Aday 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:16.200 on Days al, I'm in the motherfucking building. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.440 I'm talking family m Burn. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:26.880 Yes, sir, I'm talking day one, dear o'donal, I go 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:27.640 to place. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.520 Baby when I already read it. Let's go, Tank, I 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:32.240 talk about it. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:37.000 May who saw my doughs and my gish fron. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.039 Of me game and so I love that guy. Yeah, 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:40.800 real executive. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.920 I put money in that guy's broken. Yes, I take 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:48.360 this guy. Freach Man Pratis since the new time day. Yes, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.080 man preaching, Mandy. 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.680 Man. Yes, let's go man, let's go. Man, don't know, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:09.920 they don't know. They don't have nigga trenches, trenches. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:15.000 Nig like like y'all what y'all had when I when 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.000 I first met you at noon time, it wasn't a trench, 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:25.280 but it was trench mentality, trench mentality one hundred. It 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.520 was sun up, sundown, getting here. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.519 And get to it. Made the best man win. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.720 That's it. That's it. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.919 I walked in there like that's how you get cracking. Oh, 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.600 these niggas is monstros That's. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.440 How that's how we that's how we made it happen. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:44.639 That's how that's what we did. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.120 Teddy, Bishop. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:56.480 Jazzy Faye, Brian Michael Brian Michael Cox, Jada Dent, Donnie Skants, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:07.239 that was it, John Tea Austin, Yes, the Twins, Yeah, Jagged, Yeah, 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:13.280 nigga only they're like, what the fuck is going every room? 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.800 I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell y'all some ship real quick. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.960 And I was at a party. I was at Sal's 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.160 house the weekend, the weekends manager, and Mike Karen walks 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.600 over to me and he says, I'm gonna tell you 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:32.040 something I never told anybody. He was like, I patterned 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.440 my whole company afternoon time, he said, when I came 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.200 down to Atlanta and saw what y'all had, and how 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:41.200 y'all had those producers in each room, and them niggas 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.560 was always competing against each other because they leave their 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.000 doors open. So if Jazzy's in there making the beat, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.880 Teddy hit at me like, oh ship, nigg I gotta 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.360 make it. I gotta make a fire beating Jade up here. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.040 You know what I'm saying. And that's how, that's how 0:03:56.080 --> 0:04:00.560 the competitive spirit with between all of them made them 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.680 better than you know, Iron Shopping's iron. So they was 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.920 all competing against each other and they knew people we 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.840 I mean dude, you gotta understand not want every artist 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.120 R and B artists came through, came to noontime, absolutely 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.880 came through time. You had to come through that. You 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.279 had to come through there, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.480 So that was it, man, it was And and you 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.920 came through there, you saw it. Mike came through there, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.640 he saw it, and it was just like yo. And 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.279 the good thing about us was we weren't never wanted 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.040 to be in front of the camera, so we were 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.520 we were always in the back and we were doing 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.799 the business part aspect of it. So a lot of times, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.800 you know, like the Puffs and the JDS, and they 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.839 were in front of the camera. So it's different that 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:45.640 when you when you and those kind of camps. So 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.080 when you were in the camp, niggas just handling your business. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.200 So we just handled the business and that was it. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.320 And they appreciated it because we weren't trying to take 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.240 their shine. We let them do their thing, the producers, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.159 you know what I'm saying. So that was it. That's 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.920 why it weren't for how however long it worked. That's 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:02.560 why it worked. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.400 It was good competition too. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:05.600 Competition. 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.800 It wasn't like a hateful competition. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.400 What was the setup of now time as far as 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.040 just the partners in it? 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.440 Who were the people? I mean, you know for people 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:15.880 who So. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.440 Let me give you the backstory on that. So I'm 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:24.480 born and raised in DC. My partners Chris and Ryan, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.840 they from Oakland, right, so they came down. They were 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:35.120 going to school at Howard HM from from Oakland, so 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.159 they came to d C. So this is this is 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.480 this is a crazy story. So the reason how we 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:47.279 really hooked up was because Chris has some cousins out 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.480 here that was heavy in the game, like deep deep 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:56.000 in the game, and we can uh, my mom lived 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.880 in Oakland. My mom lived in Oakland, Nolan Parks Ship 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.080 you know, yeah gas station, yeah right there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.000 So I used to come out to Oakland all the time. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.159 But you didn't know them at this point. No. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.719 I knew Chris. I knew I knew Chris. My mom 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.240 and Chris's mom were like friends. So I've known Chris 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:18.760 my whole life. So one day, you know, I was 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.159 and it's it's crazy. My mom was like, you need 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:26.400 to meet Chris's cousins, his cousins, and in LA I 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.039 was like okay, So I met I hadn't seen Christ 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.000 in years, went up to his high school, said Chris, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.760 I need to meet your cousins in Oakland. Man. Somebody 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.320 told me I need to meet them. So I went 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.280 to went to go meet them, went to go talk 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.000 to Chris and in the school and they was like, well, 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.640 you know, we'll we'll connect with you. Make sure you 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.719 take care of Chris when he comes up to d 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.000 c embrace him, put him, put him under your wing. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.320 I was like, no problem. So Chris came, Ryan was 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.760 Ryan King came up there. So we started this this company, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:11.000 a booking agency. So during that time too short, Luke juvenile, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.880 not but he was juvenile, but the trick daddy. So 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.840 we used to book shows at the College at Howard 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.440 for for for you know, going around the city booking 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.200 these shows with these with these artists. So we started 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.200 this company. It was called Ivory Coast. It was me 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:32.320 and Chris and Ryan. So we did these shows and 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.400 then Cassine went to Howard. It was like, yo, you 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:41.640 guys need to come down to Cassin reed. Yeah, he 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.800 went to Howard. He was like, you guys need to 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.520 come down to this thing in Atlanta. Called Freaknick. It 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:54.920 was like Freaknick. Fuck is that? What is that? So 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.080 so we said, all right, So we did this show 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:04.200 and Atlanta. I mean, dog we had I mean we 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.600 had the big This was actually the biggest show in 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.800 the history of Freak Nick. We had too short Luke 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:18.240 outcasts before our casts even came out. Uh, what's the 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:19.840 other groups? It was a bunch of groups. I have 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.720 the flyer, show it to you. But we did this 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.280 show and we made we made. We made a good 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.960 amount of money. Right. So Nooney was already in Atlanta 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.000 because he grew up in Oakland too. You know, he 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:33.880 grew up in Oakland too. He was already in Atlanta 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.120 trying to do some music things. So when we got 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.640 to Atlanta, I'm like, Yo, this ship is sexy. Like 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.920 you you black, you can move around to police, don't 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.000 pull you over. I'm like this, saint, how we function 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.880 in DC? Like nigga, you got a nice car, nigga. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:53.040 That said, So we moved down. We moved down to 0:08:53.080 --> 0:09:00.840 Atlanta and we're here. Yeah. See, but when we came 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.520 down there, niggas was already getting money in DC like 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.800 heavy Like niggas an' sayd how heavy. I wasn't any 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.560 game like it. Yes, So when we moved to Atlanta, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.760 we already had. When I moved to Atlanta, let me 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.199 tell you, I had a brand new the eight fifties 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.560 before anybody had. I had a Black One. I had 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:27.240 a three hundred z X Turbo. I had a McLaren. Listen, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:31.320 I had a McLaren and I had the brand new 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.600 SEC four hundred. Remember the joints, the convertible joints, the 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.320 lexus when they came out. I had. I had all 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.120 of that. You shipped all that to Atlanta. Ship all 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.160 of that to Atlanta, right, Chris had the range rover 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.720 Ryan had. I think Ryan had a range Rover. So 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:52.160 when we get down there, niggas was like, who is niggas? 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.760 These niggas ain't playing no ball, they ain't they ain't 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.880 no artists, Like, who is these niggas like? So that 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.200 kind of attracted all of the the Jazzy's and the 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.240 Brian's and the Teddies too to what we were doing 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.240 because we weren't. We weren't we weren't. We weren't in 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:08.840 the you know, we weren't in the game like that. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.600 As far as as far as artists and you know, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.280 being that ballplayer or you know that kind of that 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:18.080 kind of thing. So we just set up shop. We 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.280 set up shop. We figured out how to do it, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.440 and the reason why we really got put on where 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.720 we really what really set us off was how we 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.360 parlayed the play. So what happened with that was we 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.840 had a group called Absolutely. I don't even remember, y'all remember. 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.160 Don't tell me, don't don't do that, don't act like that. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:45.880 We had a group called Absolute, so we remember Absolute. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.000 That was our first group we had. So we were 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.680 trying to shop Absolute. We were shopping them to the 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:58.160 labels and Puff Puff. Kevin Wells, my Man Wells took 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:02.600 us to Puff and we he Puff loved the group. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.760 He was like, Yo, I want to sign him, blah 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:09.040 blah blah, let's go. So we was like, fuck, bro, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.400 we don't want, we want. We're trying to be were 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.679 trying to be our own back. Yah, fucking what you come. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.280 So we took them. We did it. We had another 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:22.320 deal on the table with with le or Death Jam, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:26.320 so he was like, we're gonna go to death. Tina Davis, Yeah, 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.480 yeah girl. She signed and she was like I love 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.120 this group. Let's signed the group. So we said, all right, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.680 let's do it. So we said we're gonna take the 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:39.040 group to Death Jam, and we took the group to 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.640 Death Jam. But Puff kind of got he was a 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.600 little salty about it because we didn't bring the group 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.080 over him. So he was like, yo, who the fuck 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.600 is who produced the records? Like who are the producers 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.880 on the records? And we was like it was at 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.480 that time it was just Jade up and Death had 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.880 produced the records on Absolute and Teddy too. So he 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.960 was like, man, let me, let me, let me sign 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.160 and then let me sign the producers. We was like, 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.720 all right. So what we did was we said, listen, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:12.160 we're gonna let him sign the producers, but every time 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:18.000 it has to say read produced by Bad Boy Slash Noontime, right. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.320 Because at this point, Nooney is part of Yeah. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.240 Yeah, yeah, we came together. Yeah, we came together. We 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.320 all came together. We knew he he originally had the 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:27.080 name Noontime. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.200 Okay, y'all meet, if we can back if we can 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.880 back track for once, you and you and Nooney, you 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.800 already you, Chris. 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.640 Me and Chris already already. But then when we came 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.600 to freak. Nick knew he was already in Atlanta, he 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.760 was already moved there. He was the first one to 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.920 move there. So we came down. He had he was 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.040 trying to do music. He was doing his music thing. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.959 So we just when we came down, we was like, yo, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:51.920 we know a lot of people. Let's just start. Let's 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.839 just do the record label together. So we all we all, 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.840 all four of us came together. So Nooney had money. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.960 He was getting money in the streets. He had money. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.320 We had money, so we just put it together. We 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:07.720 bought a building. You remember that we bought a building. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.760 We bought the little thing was on Walker Street and 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.880 then we moved to We paid let me tell you something, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.320 you know King Cloud, right, that's what you probably came 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.319 King Plod was the was the building that we bought. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:22.959 We paid three fifty. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.040 Four on the railroad track. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.280 Yes, yes, okay, that's the one you came to. But 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.640 we had one, we had one before that was on 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.160 Walker Street and when he came to was the one 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.880 we bought. We paid three fifty four for a building, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:39.960 a building, ten thousand square foot building, ten thousand square 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.200 foot building on King like this is plant prime real 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.560 estate right now in Atlanta. That's how much the building 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:52.040 is working now, three million, three million. They going for 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.040 three million over there's prime real estate three fifty and 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.680 we sold it. We sold it with. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.880 Yeah whatever whatever. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:07.439 So Puff wants to producers, so we said, long as 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.160 it is produced by Bad Boy slash Noontime. I mean yeah, yeah, 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.480 bad Boy slash New Time. So in that run we 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.719 were on everything. Jada Up and Den were on all 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:22.200 the stuff over a bad Boy, the Faiths, Biggie Mace, 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.360 all those records, all those records, and it was Jada 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:30.760 Up produced by Bad Boy Noontime. So people started noticing, 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.080 like who the fuck is these noontime niggas? Like where 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.400 they come from? So I'll tell you a funny story. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.880 So we had we can't meet. Let me tell you 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.040 this story. Me and Shakira came out here to start 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.400 Noontime West. Okay, So Shakira was a part of Noontime 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:49.320 in the beginning as well. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.080 I didn't know that, like he was. I don't know 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.200 how involved he was, but he was supposed to be 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.120 the fifth fifth guy. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.840 Him and Neony. I don't know what happened they whatever, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.520 something happened. I don't know the dynamic that happened between them, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.560 but something happened Shaki. We didn't, we didn't become a part, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.160 but me and him came out here at to start 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.680 Noontoime West. So we were just going off to all 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:12.120 the labels. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.280 Yeah Young, remember Yah yab Young and. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.680 We went to Yeah. Erica Grayson was over a Sony 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:24.480 music publisher, right remember her. So Erica was one of 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.360 the first people out here to embrace us. So she 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.800 so we did a deal, and this is we did. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:36.480 Jada didn't have not one record out. He did a 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:40.480 seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars publishing deal with no records, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.600 zero records out. All she had was the shit that 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.520 was coming out. No, this ship that was supposed to 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.080 be coming out on bad Boy. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:50.160 That was it. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.480 This is coming out on bad Boy. Seven hundred and 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:58.640 fifty thousand dollars publishing deal with no records in the marketplace. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:05.280 And then goes and does Survivor and gets he gets Shape, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.720 gave him a five hundred thousand dollars publis publishing deal. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.400 Oh yeah, I was just getting money off of one record. 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:20.120 So yeah, So then b Cox comes, Jazzy comes, you know, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.280 what I mean. This is after j and Dent, but 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.000 Jazzy comes, b Cox comes, and b Cox's story is 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.000 crazy like he he used to he came. He was 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.320 coming as like an engineer, like you know most producers coming. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.560 He came in as an engineer. Think it's passing out. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.880 We were passing our flyers on the clock Atlanta campus 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.160 and niggas like we was looking for engineers. So b 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.240 Cox came and he used to come over there engineer. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.920 So I one day you know how you were in 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.720 a student remember late late at night and Jay you 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.240 remember this too, Like you would be in the studio 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.760 and NIGGASO just be sitting around kicking and talking and talking. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.440 And this is the time we had dat's So b 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.000 Cox was real slick. So he would just put his 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:13.440 dats in while we're sitting around talking. Yo. That ship 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:20.360 yeah yeah, I produce Okay, ship sounds good. And that's 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.240 how he got to be, you know, came on as 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.399 a producer. Yeah, just being in the studio he wasn't 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.600 you know. And then Jazzy came on and Jazz you 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.200 know how flamboyant Jackue he was. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:37.120 You know what I mean, he's a physical so him 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.080 and noone he had a relationship, and then that's how 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:40.720 that develops. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.040 Nestles they all came in. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.800 How was it set up though? Okay, so because you're 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:54.439 saying y'all signed them two other entities though, right, Like 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.640 you what did you share in man? 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.959 Yeah, we had the we owned the publishing Okay, well 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:02.320 you got that a publishing company. 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.240 Yeah, okay, we got over. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.040 And you and you managed nine hundred copyrights and you 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.240 managed them as producers. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.320 Yeah okay, and. 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.760 We managed them as producers. So the same thing with 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.399 JD we did with b Cos Okay, same thing we 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:17.600 did with Puff we did would be. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.400 I was there when y'all did that, and. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:25.040 You know how that developed was because somehow, I don't 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.919 know remember Jagged Edge, right, So b Cox started working 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:34.840 with them after nobody really wanted was really messing with 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.040 jacket Is. So they came up with these incredible records 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.199 and j D heard him and was like, oh this 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:45.240 ship is he's as fire. And that's how b Cox 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.080 got on with the Jacket Edge. That's what put him 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:49.879 on on the map with some jacket Is because they 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:50.560 was working together. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:50.840 Yeah. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.000 Yeah, I used to go over there with him and 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.400 he used to first go over there with them with 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.000 uh with Jacket Elk and Jacket Edge. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:00.360 Yeah. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.120 So they used to be over there working of course 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:02.760 at New Time. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.280 Yeah, yes, and it will be it would be be 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.720 Cox Beats or whatever that they actually wrote a song 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.280 for me that's not really how I see you. Not 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.560 cool with them, yes, And then they were like, we're 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.959 going over to j D's and I was like, Jermaine 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:21.359 the pre JD. Yeah, it's like yeah. I was like 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.439 I want to go. So Donny was like, yeah, let's go. 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:24.800 Let's go. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.399 Donnie's CAAs, let's go. And I was like, cool, let's go. 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.200 We go over to the studio and that's where I'm 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:36.800 seeing b Cox and j D kind of developed. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:38.320 And I'm watching him. 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.560 You know, I don't want to say specifically that he 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:46.000 coached be Cox into DJing, but that's where I first 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.840 saw b Cox getting behind the turntables, that's probably and 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:50.920 learning how to DJ. 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:51.520 That's probably. 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.600 That's probably, know what I'm saying. Yes, And I was like, 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:54.000 what are you doing? 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.080 He said, yeah, you know, JD DJ, I got to 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.200 learn how to DJ. And I was like, oh, okay, Ship, 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.159 I'm in there just watching this nigga funk up the 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:02.160 DJ equipment. 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.360 But I'm like, all right, niggas, don't go with that record. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.320 That's that's where. 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.560 He yeah, that's where he prove round. 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.520 And then Jacket is like, yeah, nigga we hoop. I 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.520 was like, Nigga, I don't hoop and nigga we do hoop. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.000 And I was like, well, let's go hoop. And there 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:19.439 was a nigga j got a gym. I was like, 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.640 gym a little bat. 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.240 Right down the hallway. I was like, down the hallway. 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.800 Get it showed. This time I was at that studio. 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.480 This niggas has oh this is everything. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:32.800 Is park Nigga. 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.159 It was niggas so crazy. You know, when we bring 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:42.280 him on the go, they gotta validated this is it's 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:43.400 real or not? Tank? 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:48.320 I mean, I mean Tank been dunking for you. 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.080 Like the fifth grade nigga was flying. 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:52.119 I didn't think you because I couldn't think you can. 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.120 Nobody ever did. I didn't think I ever did. I've 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:56.800 seen the nigga. We played one day and I said, 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.840 this niggas jumping out of the gym doing all these 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.080 crazy I you. 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.160 Know, the nigga will dunk off Burt nah, I ain't 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:08.159 no way. 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:09.800 Yeah. 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:16.840 So that all was pivotal, yeah for me, all of that, and. 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.240 Pivotal for us too, because that's how LaToya came in 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:20.760 to play, because you know, she was dating one of 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.480 the guys, okay, and that's how we met. That's how 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.440 Toya came to us. It was from that, From that, that. 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:37.840 Relationship, it's I got I got so many questions. I mean, 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.439 I know you too, you my friends, but it's still like, 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:40.800 I got so many questions, you know what I'm saying, 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:46.080 because getting into the inner workings of like your business 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.000 is a different type of conversation, you know what I'm saying, 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:54.160 Because there comes a point where for us outside looking 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.280 in noontime is it right? Noon time is a real 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.120 one stop shot where you can get. 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.600 Your good And that's what that's that's what we were, 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:03.919 you know. 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:04.280 What I'm saying. 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.760 And and then there comes a point in time where 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:16.159 it's not anymore. It dissolves and and the bosses are 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.920 kind of going in different directions. 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:21.760 And that's exactly what happened. 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:23.439 And what is. 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:29.960 If if not too much too much into it, how 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:31.399 does how does that happen? 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.600 Because you know the downfall of black men. Ro it's 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.639 two things that that kill us. It's our egos and 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:39.920 we don't share resources. 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:40.639 Mhm. 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:45.080 So it was egos. It was egos. It was it 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.600 was it was the egos man, like you know, and 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.240 and that that was our downfall and had we had 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:56.280 we stuck it out and like you said, like you said, 0:22:56.760 --> 0:23:00.399 all other people people admire what we did, like they 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.720 like this, that nobody did it like that and in 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.960 that fashion. And yeah, it was the egos man. It 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:07.920 was just egos. 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.879 It became like the it became a model. It was 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:15.080 a it was a we need somebody. 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:18.600 Had producers at one studio this studio, that studio, that studio, 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:26.440 and you know puff did with gar of our guys, 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.680 but they weren't I don't, I don't. I don't know 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.800 how that he had. I think he had like one 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:35.040 or two rooms maybe, and Daddy House we had. 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.080 Four or five rooms, so continuously. 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:41.280 Going, continuously going with the producers had their own room. 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.960 You know what I'm saying. We built the rooms specifically 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.480 for them to have their own rooms. 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.199 It's because I watched you all individually. I watched the 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.679 things that you all have have have moved into and 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:56.160 accomplished individually, and I'm thinking about all of that being 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.760 under one run Jesus. 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:03.960 And it's not like the amount of executives that we 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.639 that we that we put out, like Jaha used to 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.399 work for us, Secure used to work April used to 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:15.679 work for us. Wow, Seante Page used to work for us. 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:20.200 Know what I mean? All came through noon time. Yeah, 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:20.960 they all came through. 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.679 How long did you guys have the company? 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:30.719 We started two thousand now, nineteen ninety probably ninety seven, 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:35.040 because we moved ninety seven to about I would say 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:41.680 two thousand and seven late about ten years, yeah, about 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:46.480 ten And then Nooney and Jazzy started showing up, which 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:52.200 was yeah, which was Sierra and yeah Sierra. What was 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.840 the other group they had Cherish? 0:24:55.119 --> 0:25:00.399 Yeah, yeah, Cherishes with the sisters tw Yeah they were 0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.040 yeah yeah wait so because that was what I was 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:04.560 going to ask you about noontime. 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:09.720 So you have all these producers Polo was a part 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:11.840 of about to say, yeah, Polo absolute. 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:17.080 Same as him, nobody really respect Yes, he was in 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:17.720 a group. 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:22.200 Called Jim's in Jim Crow. He was in Jim Crow. 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.879 We got to deal with Jimmy Ivan and and DJ 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:28.400 and that was a noon time DJ. 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:34.040 Yes, DJ was just coming out of he was in 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.360 college in Boston College. He was in Boston College. We 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:40.840 met up there with Jimmy. DJ brought us to meet 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:46.640 with Jimmy to sign jim Crow right, and Jimmy was like, Yo, 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.960 hey guys, I love this group. This group is fantastic. 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:52.800 We're going to sign them, but I want you to 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.600 listen to something. Can you please take a listen to 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:56.800 something and tell me what you think. 0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.400 Always want you to listen, Always want you to. 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:03.000 Said, he said, take a listen to something. Hi, my 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:10.800 name is. Hi, my name is. He was like, guys, 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:12.320 what do you think about this guy? 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:14.240 Like who is that? 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.960 He was like, this kid was about to sign eminem 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.200 It's like, oh, I mean the record was it was. 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.159 It was a record. You can hear that from the beginning. 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:25.639 As soon as you heard that record, you know. 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:26.359 What that was. 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.119 And uh yeah, so he signed, So he signed the group. 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.560 Polo was a part of that group. But Polo was like, 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.000 you like, nobody like he used to produce, but nobody 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.720 we wouldn't take him seriously, you know what I mean? 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:44.480 But Polo was a really fucking dope producer, saying super. 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.440 Dumb, because that's what I was going to ask as 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.480 far as like the transition of having. 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:55.480 All these producers, when did the artist come? 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.800 You know what I'm saying, because obviously that is that 0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.480 is the pivot, right that you have the you got 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:01.160 the music, you got. 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.760 The people don't know this, but we was. We signed 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.200 to Shanty when she was sixteen. 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:06.280 Ship. 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:11.840 Yes, Ashanti was signing the noon time. Yes, Kendall Mintor, 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:16.919 you remember Kendall Mentor, the attorney Kendall Mentor was introduced 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:23.200 us to her. We signed her, did a bunch of 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:25.840 crazy that. Yeah, we did a bunch of crazy records 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:30.879 on her, and then we got we got our first deal. 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.600 We got our first deal with Sony uh Ron uh Ron, 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:40.520 what's his name, Dave Sweeney? You know remember day day 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.480 Sweeney was over there? Ron what was that? No, not 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:47.919 Ron Gillyard attorney, He was an attorney, but he ran Sony. 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:52.960 But anyway, so we shined Ashanti and we did all 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.640 of these like huge, big record I mean, like really 0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:01.600 dope records, and we went over to Sony and Dave 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:06.040 McPherson was like, I don't know about her. We was 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.200 like really, so when I tell you this other name, 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.160 you're gonna be like, damn, I forgot about that, remember. 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:18.840 Of course, So we had a female rapper, right, so 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.840 they was like, we like her, y'all need to put 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.359 all your money behind her. Let's put let's put the 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:31.119 bag behind her. And that's what they did. They we 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.280 had trick Daddy, we had Juvenile, we had jar Rule. 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:40.000 Went to go pay jay Z five hundred thousand dollars cash, 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.720 we'll get on her record. Yes, yes, on cha's record 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:53.600 cash cash you no, No, I don't know what happened. 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.840 He was going to do it. He wanted to do it. 0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.760 I'm gonna tell you he wanted to do it. But 0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:02.280 when I tell you, she had absolutely everybody who was 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.680 hot at that time on her record. And Sony was like, yo, 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.360 this is the artist. We want to get behind it. 0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.480 We we you know, we knew in the game. We 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.120 just this is our first role. Were just like, fuck it, man, 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:18.200 y'all gonna put the money behind her. So what happened 0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:22.800 was Ashanti we still had her sign and you know 0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.920 how you know how artists you feel like you're not 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:34.160 paying attention to yes man, and let me out yes, yes, yes, 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.440 so and I remember this like like like yesterday. So 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.640 the straw with the shanty was she had got into 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:46.520 a car accident right down in Atlanta, and they were 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.520 her and her mom were calling the guys down in 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.880 Atlanta about about you know, trying to get her help 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.640 or helping her out or whatever, trying to you know 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.440 what I'm saying. So I guess they didn't nobody return 0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.000 the calls of you know, talk to the mom or whatever. 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.040 So they called I was out here and now like 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:08.280 I had already like relocated out here. They called me 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.080 and they were like, Terry, Ashanti's just got into an accident. 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.920 She's crying, she's upset. You guys, you guys are not 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.440 You're not You're not doing right by her. We want 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:22.760 to get out of the contract. So talk to the guys. 0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.640 We had a meeting about it. Talk to the guys. 0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.080 We had a meeting and we were just like, yo, 0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:28.640 we're just going We just hated to let her go, 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:36.640 and we let her go and her picked her up history, 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.040 but we had her signed to sixteen. 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:46.400 Absolute absolutely crow Ashanti. Yeah, Sierra, Sierra. 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:51.040 Oh, he got another guy, he got another like hiding Jim. 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:51.600 I got that. 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:57.520 That didn't turn out to be an artist. Who tell 0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:01.200 us about the groups you signed? Oh they got they 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.840 got a certain famous, super famous actor in it. 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:10.360 Oh so so the first group. So the first group 0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.040 I signed. This is a crazy story too. The first 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:17.920 group I signed was this group group called Quatro Quatro. 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.880 Everybody out of DC group qua Quatro. I didn't know 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.200 anything about music, dang. I just know growing up I 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.960 love music. My grandmother used to play the records and 0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:29.520 I just to listen to him. I just love R 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.960 and B. So I just I always wanted to be so, 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.000 you know, doing the street shit I was doing. I 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.520 was like, yo, I want to be an entrepreneur. I 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.800 don't want to be. I don't want to be. You 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.000 can't do wrong, fab, It's not gonna happen. So you 0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.240 told you this, old you to have king Pin dreams. 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.200 No doing this to get to something. 0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.280 I'm doing this to get to something because the old 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.240 man told me. One time I sat down with him, 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.719 so dude, hustling dude. He was like, yo, bro, let 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.360 me tell you something. You ever heard the law of averages? 0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.800 And I was like, what is that? He was like, 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.640 a lot of averages. Mean, at some point, at some time, 0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.240 something's going to catch up to you. It's called a 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:11.320 lot of averages. Can you do something enough, it's going 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.200 to catch it. And he said, you can't. You can't. 0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:17.520 You have to have a mentality. You have a hustle's mentality, 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.600 but you got to channel that in another in another way. 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.320 So that's what I was doing. So that's how we 0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.080 started the music. And then you know, once the new 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.600 music executive, the new drug dealer was the new music. 0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.000 The new music exactly became the new that was a 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.080 sexy You was sexy if you was you had the music. 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.960 He was doing music. So that's what that's what I did. 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.080 So I had this. I started. I was like, y'all, 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:43.560 I want to do something. Man let me put so 0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:48.440 schante page. I never knew. I didn't anything about studio, 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.080 never been to a studio, never been anywhere. She's like, 0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.160 I got this group. She's like, Terry. She called me 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.400 one day and was like, YO, you got all this money. 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.640 What are you doing with it? And I was like, 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.120 I don't know. Shante. She was like, she's like, why 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.000 don't you help me manage this group? Why don't you 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:04.960 pay for some of this stuff and help me manage 0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:09.520 this group. I was like, all right, so we go manager. 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.800 I started managing the group with her, started, you know, 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.600 buying records, sold my first record, first time I ever 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:20.360 went to a studio. Ever. I go into the studio, 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:24.360 chante WeGo. I'm like, damn this shit sixty like this 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.680 is this is a vibe right now, this is a 0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:31.720 hell of a vibe studio music. And we go get 0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:36.600 a beat from this producer. Two hundred and fifty dollars 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:42.080 for the beat. Guess who the producer was, Checkie Thompson. 0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:43.800 Get the fuck out of his Nigga bought. 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:49.640 A Checkie Thompson beat for two hundred and fifty fucking dollars. 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:50.960 No way, I. 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.720 Swear to god, two hundred and fifty dollars. Two hundred 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:58.040 and fifty dollars. So going back to what he says, 0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.600 one of the dudes in the group was Michael Eeley. 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:07.000 Get the fuck out here about get the fuck out 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.560 of here, Michael. 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:10.920 I'll show you the picture. 0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:12.880 Michael, we need you on the crib. 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:14.239 Hold on. 0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:15.560 I didn't know what you'd be saying. 0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:17.160 Can I show the table? 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:17.600 Blue eyes? 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:21.760 He got the kid. 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:24.520 Nigga said, he. 0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:26.000 Who is that? 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.840 Who's that in that picture. That was my first group nigga. 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.520 That is crazy. 0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.280 That's crazy. That's crazy. 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.160 So did you were you able to get them moving 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:38.520 at all? 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:39.720 I didn't nothing. 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:46.719 We actually actually kind disorder, kind disorder, you know who 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.040 we fuck with? What's the dude they used to manage 0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:55.960 Teddy Teddy? Uh? Yes, okay, we was gonna sign him 0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:00.480 to Jane Griffy with some backdoor deal. I don't even know. 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:05.000 I you know, I didn't have no clue what the 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.000 contract looked like. 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:07.520 It was ugly. 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.320 It was gonna be ugly, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.479 So j Griffy because he lived in DC, he lived 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.040 actually lived up the street. He know, he was actually 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.640 messing with this chick that lived up the street the 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.200 neighborhood I grew up in, and I used to see 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.800 this red this range rover and like in the neighbor 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.359 I'm like, who is this thing? Who's who is this dude? 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.319 And then Shauntey told me she was like, yeah, Dan 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.839 Dream Griffy, he's being being back and forth in DC. 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.560 So yeah, we were, we were going to do a 0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:35.759 situation with him. 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:37.759 He used to be messing with Cliff and Jerry and 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:38.200 him out. 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.919 There yes, that was your first That was my first 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.800 interest interest in music, music business? 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:44.799 How old are you at this point? 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:51.239 I was probably like this was it probably like twenty three, 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:51.879 twenty four. 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.839 Yeah, so by this time you're like, listen, I'm the 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:56.760 money's going somewhere. 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.719 Yes, it's going somewhere else. I can't know because I've 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.160 seen so many people locked up there, like you know 0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:03.960 what I'm saying. Like I had to, I had that 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.080 wherewithal to know that you can't you can't keep doing 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.520 this because it's going to lead to something crazy. 0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.879 And how long were you in. 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:18.759 It before you guys leave to Atlanta? Like so you 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.879 had already been trying to figure the music thing out. 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.280 I had a video store, opened up, a video store. 0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:29.160 Tank did I have a lot? I had a video store. 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.359 I had a carrier service, and then you know it 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.000 was a crazy I had a video store. 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:39.160 I bought a video So you mean video store videos. 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:42.359 Like Blockbuster the corner. Blockbuster had a corner block List 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:49.959 on ninth streak ninth and uh was it s ninth 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.319 and s get the. 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.520 Out of yo was getting money? 0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:57.760 Yeah, listen, so listen, let me tell you some crazy. 0:36:58.160 --> 0:36:59.719 So I had a video store so they had a 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.280 base spend in the video store. Right, I had never 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:06.120 I bought the store, never been down in the basement 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:06.640 in the store. 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:07.920 You never knew it had a basement. 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.560 Never knew it had a basement. But guess what was 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:15.440 in the basement All X rated videos. That's where they 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.879 kept it. That's where the X rated ship was down 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:19.759 in the basement. And I didn't even know it. So 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:24.120 one of the employees that was working there said, Yo, 0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:26.640 do you know there's a downstairs and do you know 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.239 what's down there? And I'm like, no, what is down there? 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.080 She's like, extra, that's where the X rated videos are 0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.200 naked is? That's what the butt naked is. 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:44.319 That's why I spent a lot of my time. I 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:48.160 hate when I look back on myself back in the 0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.959 video store times and I st. 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.200 To no, I snig. 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.120 I just had to get up the nerve because there's 0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:56.960 too many people in here. 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.279 Walk into the black door, because that that door was 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.560 always a different color, and niggas knew when you walk 0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.560 back there, what you was going to do was going 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:14.799 to get that and these people to serve myself so 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:15.759 that you. 0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:22.319 Know what I'm saying, they had Hey, that video store 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.839 down the street. Oh yeah, that's a nice one. 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.160 Man. How long you had a video store? 0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.600 Probably like nine months? Just trying to figure it out. 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.640 I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm trying to 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.400 figure it out. I know, Like I said, I know, 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:34.360 I can't keep doing this. 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:35.399 I got to figure it out. 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:36.799 You know what I mean? 0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:43.720 How much money did you blow initially in the music 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.920 business because people be thinking like, Okay, I'm gonna just 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:51.320 take this money from overwherever, getting it from. 0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.080 From my income tax, and I'm gonna. 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.560 Be cracking a music in a week. You know what 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.680 it was? It was it was kind of like the 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.120 money that we did was we put the good use 0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.120 because we bought a building. We had a building. But 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:14.480 even before that, the throw it was okay, it wasn't 0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.200 It wasn't that. It wasn't that much. I wasn't spending 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.800 a whole bunch of mo like that on that. I 0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.920 was spending money on Goofy ship, but not that in 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:24.960 the beginning, because I was just I was like, okay, 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.600 this is this is cool. Like but you know, niggas 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.839 was flying in Vegas and doing all the Goofy ship, 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.399 buying the cars and all that ship that we do 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.520 go to Vegas. You know, you know what I mean, 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:42.480 taking trips, broads, you know what I mean, not the. 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.719 Don't you do it, don't do it, don't do it. 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:53.880 We're all beautiful and we are the Lord made somebody 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:57.560 for somebody at a certain level. Stop it, stop you stop, 0:39:58.200 --> 0:39:58.719 cut it out. 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:13.279 Well yeah, so let me ask you a question. 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.840 The history, because first of all, it's crazy. Yeah. 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.359 I got another one though that nobody really knows about it. 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.640 I signed her when she was thirteen, Tory Kelly. 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:26.040 You signed her? 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.319 Yes, I signed Tory Kelly. She was signed to my 0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:36.520 production company. What yes, thirteen and what was going on? 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:42.160 So I signed her to geffin huge deal they gave. 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.480 Let me tell you at this time they gave us. 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.400 You know, back then people was getting thirteen fourteen points. 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.360 I got a twenty eight point deal with Tory Kelly. 0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.000 Shit back then, Yeah, because back then it was thirteen 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:58.480 fourteen points and twenty eight points twenty eight points. Got 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.480 a consultant deal out of it. And you know who 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.960 and you you probably remember her. You know who signed 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:10.719 was Polyanthony. Yeah, yeah, Polyanthony Signeder was like, Terry, this 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:11.800 is I've never heard. 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.120 This before Jojo comes out? 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:18.160 Or is it this is after right, we've seen the 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:23.360 success yes of what Jojo is, Yes, cooking an R 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:24.959 and B doing her thing, young girl. 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.000 I don't know what's Jojo in a minute. 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:33.080 Because Jojo came out in like two thousand and five, four, Yeah, 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:33.759 something like that. 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.480 Okay, yeah, then it might have been. It might have been, 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.240 it might have been. Yeah, well Toy was only thirteen. 0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.680 So y'all do so you signed her? Y'all do a 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.200 major level deal the whole thing. 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.239 Yes, I did it that well, they gave me this. 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.520 They gave like I said, they gave me a consultant deal. 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:53.319 They gave us twenty eight points. And back then, you know, 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.719 like I said, fourteen points, do you get that's for 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.560 the artist and the fucking like production cartopped up. Yeah, 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.400 everybody got to chop that up. So I got twenty 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.000 eight points and Polly was like, Terry, we're going to 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.960 put the money behind this man. We love her. Guess 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:12.000 what happened, You know what happens in the industry. Somebody 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:12.879 knew comes in. 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:15.800 Oh, the new new regime. 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:17.000 Yeah, the new regimes. 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.120 I used to hate that. That was that was the 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:20.880 worst of the day. That's the worst thing I can 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:21.040 have it. 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.240 Yeah, the new regime turnover was feeling the new regime 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:25.040 a coach. 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:26.200 It's a new coach. 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.800 The new regime comes in. Guess who the new regime 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.600 is Ron Fair? 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:31.600 Mm hmm. 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.880 And he said, hey, guess what. I don't want to 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.440 drop her. Immediately they dropped her. 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:39.719 He dropped it. 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:40.839 Ron Fair dropped her. 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:41.440 Dropped her. 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:45.200 Yeah, she that lines up with him. 0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:46.319 Yeah, he dropped her. 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.840 Big voice. Oh yeah, he dropped her. 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:55.080 Wow, he dropped her. So I'm in a dilemma now 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.880 Ron Fair dropped her. Now I have the opportunity to 0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.480 go and get her another deal, because you know, you 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.160 only got a certain time. They go get her another deal. 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:09.359 So I'm searching to I'm not even searching to get 0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:13.319 another deal. Actually, somebody called me from MTV and they 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:16.960 wanted to do this. Has been when MTV when they 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.920 were doing the backstories on artists and they you know, 0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.960 they were doing these like reality things. They first started 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:26.080 doing this kind of shows. They were like, Yo, we 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.360 want to do we want to do we want to 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.640 do a story on Toy. We want to follow her 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:34.960 and her family and her journey and I'm like, yo, okay, 0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.640 now we can get some traction. So I said, all right, 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:41.640 So I called her mom and dad and by this time, 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:47.480 Toy was she was fifteen going on sixteen. And by 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.080 this time I called her mom and I said, hey, 0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.400 I got these people from MTV. They want to fly 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:53.920 out and talk to you guys, and what they want 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.279 to do a show. They want to do a show 0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:00.520 on Toy called the Toy Diaries or something did something. 0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:05.879 It was really dope, right, and she they flew out, 0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.120 they met the parents and then after that, I was like, okay, 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:10.879 what are we doing? Like are we going to do this? 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.840 So the mom said to me, she was like, Terry, 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.280 We're we have a dilimma. I'm like, what's the problem. 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:22.320 She's like, Toy wants to Toy wants to do American Idol. 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.080 She'll be sixteen. She can go on there. Now. I'm 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:30.120 like what. I'm like, no, no, no, no, can't. I can't. 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.120 And then I called my attorney and I'm like, yo, 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.600 he was like, she signed to you. You know you 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.200 have the opportunity to go get her another deal. So 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:44.160 I contemplated and contemplated. Man and her mom, you know, 0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.400 she she was crying one day on the phone and 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.040 she was just like, we don't know what to do. 0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:52.000 She really wants to be on American Idol, and they 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:55.480 gave me this story. Like you know, she's been ever 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:59.600 since she's been an artist, we've been giving her, we've 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.040 been telling her what to do. Now that she's sixteen, 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.560 she wants to do something that she wants to, you 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:09.200 know what I mean. And I remember this like it 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:13.080 was yesterday. Man. I was. I was in DC, and 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:17.000 she had she had she had went the idol. But 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:23.000 once you go past a certain thing, that's when they started. Yeah, 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:27.040 so she was I guess she had got past a 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.560 certain thing. And the mom called me and was like, Terry, 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:34.879 this is this is the last day that we can 0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:40.399 move forward being under your contract. And I'm driving in DC. 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:45.000 I'm down on down in Chinatown and I'm driving and 0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:47.719 I'm like, damn, man. I'm like, man, this girl is 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:53.360 fucking amazing, Like she's incredible, Like you can't let her go. 0:45:54.960 --> 0:46:00.120 I was like, I contemplated, contemplating, and I drove and 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:04.120 I said, I saw a fed AX. I pulled over 0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.200 and told her mom to faxed me the papers to 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.360 the FED ax and I signed the release at the 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:13.400 fed X in DC. Wow, and let her out. I 0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.759 was like, you know what, it'll come back somehow, you 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.120 know what I mean. This is something she want to follow, 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.080 her dreams. She want to be on American Night. And 0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.960 I told her, I was like that, like man who 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.520 runs on I knowed the people that win, I don't really, 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.160 like really really like a lot of them don't really 0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.440 do anything. There's only a couple of them that really 0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.239 really really made yeah, really take it. Then say you 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.759 sure you wanted to be on idol? Well, this is 0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.680 you know, this is something she wants to do. So 0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:44.360 that was it, and I let her out and that 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:44.839 was it. 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.799 People don't know how many of those. 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.800 How many of those situations that we all come around, 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:58.239 are come across where we have to make human decisions 0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.600 of an artist is in front of you or signed 0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:04.600 to you, or whatever this case may be, when you're 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:09.120 doing business and there's another opportunity for them that you 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:12.279 don't want to stand in front of right that you 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.960 want to give them that opportunity right to go. Because 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:16.680 there are a lot of people in this business that 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.600 would have said, oh, you signing me, I don't care yeah, okay, 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.000 what level. And I was at that point, but you know, 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:23.719 like I. 0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:24.399 Don't, I don't. 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.600 I don't like the function like that. Like I don't 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.200 like the function like that. And as I know, it's 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.680 gonna come back to me. Absolutely it has and it has. 0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:33.960 You know what I mean. And like we had LaToya 0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:37.280 like and the this was around the same time LaToya 0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:40.279 was was was taken off, you know what I mean. 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.239 We got LaToya and I remember this too when we 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:47.680 when we signed LaToya, we made her album out here. 0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.520 I don't even know you remember Molly of. 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.920 Course I remember Molly after in the valley. 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.759 Yes, yes, yes, you don't remember. I can't think of 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.799 the name of that street studio. It's hung off the time. 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.759 That's my studio, man. Yeahs. 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.400 Molly was this little white girl. She had a studio, studio, 0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:12.000 fire studio upstairs, yeah, compound studio. Right. So that's what 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.799 we recorded La Toya's album. We recorded the day we 0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.920 did Torn. We did it there, we did Torn, and 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:23.920 we did it there and got Toyo Dalic Capital. 0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.279 You guys did Torn before you ever did the deal. 0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:33.799 Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So what the Toya we 0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:40.120 was like listen, you gotta be so far from that's 0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.480 the child thing. Like you your ship gotta be you 0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.239 gotta be doing some ghetto ship like. Your ship gotta 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:49.279 be straight, ghetto like damn near rat beats. So it 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.040 won't be no confusion. You ain't trying to do this, 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.520 You ain't trying to do that. This is what you're 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:57.799 gonna do. And that's what we did. We like, that's 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.520 that's a sample that that that torn right, you know 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.160 what I mean. So we made sure we did so 0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.200 R and B, so R and B so they won't 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:11.000 be no confusion. And came out first week she had 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.000 the number one self. She was numb one. Number one's 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.000 the number one sevend when she sold three hundred thousand 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:21.200 records her first week. Wow, her first week. 0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:24.600 And that's the thing though, because people had they had 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:26.239 written her off. Yeah, they had. 0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:32.080 Written off right, completely written her off, completely written her off. Man. 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.440 But that's why we like, you gotta be anti whatever 0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.120 they were. You gotta be totally different, totally different, totally different. 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.319 That's the only way you're gonna win, because you're gonna 0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.439 have so much hate on you if you come out 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:45.799 trying to be in the comparison. 0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:48.960 That's the conversation. Yes, is how good her music is? 0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.239 Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we made it. We made it. 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:55.680 Were just anti anti Destiny's Child. It worked, and it 0:49:55.760 --> 0:50:00.000 worked and it worked. Now I'll tell you another story. 0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:06.120 So I had Toya, I had Toy. This is all 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:10.960 around the same time. So you know, I got another one. 0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:16.719 So I'm sitting up in Capitol's office. Steve O Steve O. 0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:21.319 Pud was the an R. And you know how in 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:26.040 the offices back then, people would send in CDs, and 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.920 he had a box of CDs in his office. 0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:30.720 Right, she can't get to everything. 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:32.279 You can't get to everything. It was a box of 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:36.000 CDs and shit everywhere. So I'm looking in the box 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:41.440 one day and I'm looking. I was like, wait, fuck it, 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:47.200 help brod. It's gorgeous. I'm like, who if she can sing? 0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:52.640 I said wow. So I put the thing in and 0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:58.640 the songs were horrendous, bro terrible songs, terrible songs. And 0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:02.200 then one last song she did a cover, a Minie 0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.479 Rippleton cover, and I was like, oh, this bro can 0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:06.400 sing sing? 0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:14.120 Right, Leona Lewis no way, iWar to God, I swear 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:14.440 to God. 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:20.640 No lie. So Leona Lewis. So I look on the CD. 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:22.719 I look on the call. The dude on the back. 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:27.279 I was like, hey, bro, like, is she's signing you like? 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.400 He was like nah, man. She was like, you know, 0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:32.960 her dad comes over here. They come over here. They're 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.120 just trying to they're trying to figure it out, and 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.359 I'm just helping him out. She's not signing me, She's 0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:40.880 not signing anyone. I said, well, okay, I want to 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:45.400 I want to bring her over here, right. So the 0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:48.680 dude says, okay, let me tell her dad. Her and 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:53.160 her dad, and I was like, all right, waiting. Two 0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:54.919 days went by and I'm like, damn, this dude hadn't 0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:57.920 called me. So I called him. I was like, he's like, hey, bro, 0:51:58.000 --> 0:51:59.279 I was just about to call you. 0:51:59.320 --> 0:51:59.440 Man. 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.560 Talked to her dad and her and they've heard about 0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:04.759 noon time and then all the stuff that all the 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.000 success that you guys had. 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.200 She's she wants to she wants to listen, she wants 0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:10.239 to have a conversation. 0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:13.279 So I said, okay, So I get her and her 0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:14.799 dad on the phone and I hear her sing on 0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:16.480 the phone. I was like, yo, you need to come. 0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:20.440 I need to bring you over here. Immediately, bring over here, 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.440 me set up and uh, what's the studio that used 0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:28.320 to be on Sunset by cross from the mass Chinese 0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.319 stayed and all of that. It was a studio over there. 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:34.120 Somebody had a studio over there. Me and b Cox. 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:36.799 I brought be Cox, I brew blew bee Cox out 0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:39.840 here and we started working on her out working on 0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:43.400 her project. Did about four or five songs, and then 0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:46.520 she goes back to No first, let me go back. 0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.799 So when she's here. While she's here, I take her 0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:55.439 to poly Anthony to Jaha. Now Jaha had a deal 0:52:55.560 --> 0:53:01.040 over He was a an r at, he was an 0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:03.960 an ARTI gapper. He's the one who signed Toy. He 0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:08.920 signed Toy and I brought him Leona and he was like, yo, 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.560 I want to sign her too. Let's take her to Polly. 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:14.560 So I take Leona up to Polly. She sings for 0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:19.960 and incredible voice, and Polly was just like, I don't 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.560 think she's After the meetings, she was like, Terry, I 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:24.560 like her, but I don't think she's a star. I 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.759 want to concentrate on Toy, right. She was like, let's 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.279 just do Toy. So I don't even think it was 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:34.319 about her, like not really liking her, but I think 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.520 she didn't want to have two girls to singing girls 0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:41.600 like that, even though Toy was thirteen and Leona was 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:45.239 probably about eighteen or nineteen, so she probably didn't want 0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:49.200 to have two girls like that. So Leona went back 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:56.240 over to Europe and Toya was taken off. Right now, 0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:00.319 I told I had a year to get Leona deal. 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.359 Twelve months. I had a year to get over your 0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.000 holding period. That was my holding period in her contract. 0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.920 She had a year. So she goes back over to London, 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.960 probably like a month or two goes by. I start 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:16.439 getting the phone calls from the dad like, hey man, 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:20.200 what are we doing? Like are we gonna you guys 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:21.680 going to get us a deal? I was like, we'll do. 0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.000 It's only been two months, Like I got ten more months, 0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.600 Like so this is toy. Toy is taken off, like 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:29.480 a record of Day already came out. 0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:30.120 So we do. 0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:34.399 Toya does this show. She gets booked for this show 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.880 over and Europe called the Moboles. You heard of that. 0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:40.960 It's like it's like it's a warshow, It's like our 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:45.560 soul train bet like BT. So we get booked over there. 0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:48.560 So I've called it dad. I'm like, yo, man, I'm like, 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:51.799 we're on our way over there. I want to sit 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:53.480 down with you guys and figure this out. I and't 0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:56.600 want to bring Lee on the back. Let's do this. 0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.960 So he was like, okay, yeah. It was like that's exciting. 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.000 I was like, I wanted to invite you guys to 0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:04.799 the MOBOs. Right. I get over there, I go meet 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:07.120 with the dad. We sit down, we talk. He's like, 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.839 Leona is excited about going, she wants to go, She's 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:10.720 going to go, pick. 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:13.279 Out her outfit. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Next 0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:17.560 day comes, they don't show up. I'm like, what the 0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:18.520 fuck is going on? 0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:29.040 So come to find out she was doing X Factor 0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:35.759 over there. The American writer. Crazy, shit, she's doing X 0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:40.080 Factor right. So I get back and I hit the data. 0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:42.560 I'm like, yo, man, what was that shit about? Like, like, 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:45.640 what's going on? He was like, oh man, you know 0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:49.319 you got you guys are taking too long. I said, well, listen, man, 0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.840 you got you got another seven months, six months on 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:53.879 your contract. I want to bring her back over there, 0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.239 back back over here and finish her project. I want 0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:58.600 to get her a deal. I know I can get 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:01.799 her a deal. And he was like all right. So 0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:06.000 I started getting these frantic phone calls like Yo, hey, 0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:07.800 what are we doing. We got to get out of 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.840 this contract. I'm like, I'm like nah. I said, listen, 0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:16.000 what I will do is whatever she does over there 0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:18.560 until it comes back to America, then I have the 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:21.120 rights for that when it comes back over to America. 0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:24.680 And he was like, okay, okay, let's let's figure that out. 0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:28.919 Let's work that out. So make a long story short, 0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:34.080 she was winning on X Factor. So the reason why 0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:38.120 she didn't go to the award show is because people 0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:39.799 would start recognizing. 0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:44.160 They would recognize her, but I didn't know what she 0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:49.160 was right, so they would recognize. So then I get 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:51.840 this call late at night one day. They was like, Yo, 0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.720 my man called me. And was like, my man, damon, 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.799 you know, damon, my guy. 0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:02.360 He caused me. It was like, YO, read this article 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:09.880 and it was like Clive Davis signs the first X 0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:13.800 Factor artist to the USA, And I was like, huh. 0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:18.880 I was like what. I'm like, no fucking way. I 0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:21.680 was like, dog, she's still in our contract. He was 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.720 like I know. He's like, what the fuck is going on, 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:29.080 and I said, man, listen, bro, this is some shit. 0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:34.320 So guess what this is so crazy? Now Jaha is 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:39.560 working for Sony. He's working for Clive and Larry. Right, 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:44.000 he went from Geffen to Sony. So I immediately called 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:48.200 y'ah like, joh yo, I said, dog, y'all got this 0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:51.440 girl over there. He was like who. I was like, 0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:52.880 you remember the girl I bought? You was like, who 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:57.440 are you talking about. I was like, Leona Lewis. He said, 0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:03.600 we just had a company and she is fucking priority 0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:07.240 over here. I said, I said, Jaha. I said, you know, 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:11.360 she's still signing me. She was like, oh, ship, that's 0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:15.720 right she is. I said, Jaha, I'm about to send 0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:17.800 you this contract and I need you to go tell 0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:20.720 the people that Sony that this girl is in a 0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:25.080 production situation and that this is a problem. This is 0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:28.840 a fucking huge problem. Right. So he was like he 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:31.720 goes back to the company and then Sony was like, 0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:35.000 we ain't got nothing to do with that. That's X factor. 0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:38.000 You guys need to talk to the people that X 0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:40.800 Factor or what Simon Cowell, whoever the fuck it. 0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.439 That's the furnishing company has done. 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.720 So you need to talk to them. So I'm like, 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.920 all right. So I go to my attorney and I'm like, yo, 0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:53.400 and you know who it is. It used to be 0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:58.760 Barrier's attorney. What's his name? Man? What's his fucking name? No? 0:58:58.800 --> 0:58:59.240 Not Joah. 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:02.920 He worked for joh Okay, he worked with John. 0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:08.520 I worked for him. Uh, big attorney, big huge attorney, 0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:14.440 black attorney. Anyway, So I go to him and he's like, bro, 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.720 we gotta we gotta see him. So you're gonna have 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:19.440 to see him. You have to threaten to swing him. 0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:24.920 So we sued him and settle. We settled. But yeah, 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:27.960 she was, she was, she she was signed to me 0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:30.560 and she was she wanted to expact over there and 0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:35.000 then toy went to uh America American idol over here. 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.280 So did you ever catch the fade with Simon cow 0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:39.280 or not? Did y'all fight? 0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:42.640 Did we just? We just we settled out. We we 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:45.560 we got it. We got it straight, We got it straight, 0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:46.600 We worked it out. 0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:50.800 I'll tell you this. You can know how to pick him. 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:54.400 That's one thing I do now. Female artists, you know 0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:55.680 how to pick him. 0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:59.240 You're you are, you're eight eight. 1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:02.760 I'm good at that. I'm good at that's one thing 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:07.200 I know. A female artist is good. And we even 1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:15.320 had what your column signed to us, man uh Nivia nib. 1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.480 It was noon time. Yeah, I didn't know that. I 1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:20.240 did actually that we. 1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:22.320 Had Nivia super cool. 1:00:22.520 --> 1:00:23.479 Yeah, I love Nivva. 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:25.640 I used to be on the road always doing a 1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:29.040 bunch of days and ship together. Downside we had Nivia too. 1:00:29.400 --> 1:00:29.600 Yeah. 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:32.000 As you were getting as you as you guys were 1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:36.160 separating from the now time thing, your mentality was, I 1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:37.200 got to keep the ball roller. 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:38.440 I got to keep the ball roller. 1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:39.960 Because everybody didn't stand music. 1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:46.320 No, everybody started yeah fashion yeah, yeah yeah, fashion. 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:50.520 Yeah, Brian was doing Ryan Kenny. 1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:53.600 Yeah, Chris went actually Chris went to Depth Jam. He 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:58.280 was over there with l A and then and then 1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:01.080 and then noon was yeah, they had showed up. 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:05.000 They were still working working show enough and then I 1:01:05.120 --> 1:01:09.040 just I just came out here and start started. 1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:12.920 Managing you know Jason, Yeah, the guru of mixing. 1:01:13.400 --> 1:01:16.640 How does that happen? Because at one point that. 1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:21.360 Happened because the same partners. Yes, but but Jason used 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:25.640 to be the used to work at DreamWorks. He was 1:01:25.640 --> 1:01:28.520 in A and R. I know this right, So so 1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:30.080 that's how we got close exactly. 1:01:30.160 --> 1:01:32.560 That's how that's how all of us got well, that's 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:35.000 how we was already he was already cool. But then 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.440 that's how I got close with Jason because of the 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:37.960 dream Works. 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:41.040 Because the dream Works. Yeah, yeah, Jason was at dream Works. 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:44.160 He was an R. I was consulting over their dream Works. 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:47.160 So that's how me and him met. And the crazy 1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:49.720 thing about that is when I first came out here, 1:01:49.760 --> 1:01:52.240 I didn't even know what mixing was. Like. He was like, 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:55.120 we were like, we had a record, and he was like, bro, 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:57.120 we got to go mix this record. And I'm like, mixed. 1:01:57.160 --> 1:01:59.760 What the fuck is that? He was like, that's what 1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:02.560 they separate all the sounds. And I was like, okay, 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:04.360 And that was the first time I even knew what 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:07.640 mixing was. And he he was he was a producer. Actually, 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:08.840 Jason was a producer. 1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:12.520 He's produced Beckett beck Att. 1:02:13.440 --> 1:02:14.840 Yes, Jason was producing. 1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:17.880 Jason didn't really know song structure though. 1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:22.000 Yes he did, he did not. He knew a lot 1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:24.400 about a lot about that he taught me about I 1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:25.120 didn't know about it. 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:26.120 I taught him some ship. 1:02:26.160 --> 1:02:28.000 Okay, well you taught him some You might have taught 1:02:28.040 --> 1:02:31.480 him some ship, but he yes, okay, because. 1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:35.480 He definitely wasn't no mixed engineer at that time. No, 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:36.360 not even close. 1:02:36.480 --> 1:02:37.880 No, he wasn't. 1:02:38.160 --> 1:02:43.680 No, he was a marketing partner in what initially Well, okay, 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:46.480 so maybe I have it wrong because the Daggio was 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:49.360 your group group and he took to Jason and he 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:53.000 facilitates the deal at dream always thought y'all were him and. 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:57.439 Joel Busby that's like his God. Yes, right, so that's 1:02:57.440 --> 1:02:59.360 how that that all played out the dream. 1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:02.080 Works and you end up getting a consultancy. 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:04.320 Yes, yes, at DreamWorks. 1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:07.480 Okay, so now you guys start working together making this. 1:03:07.720 --> 1:03:12.320 Start working together. And then one day Jason went over 1:03:12.520 --> 1:03:15.880 went off to he was doing marketing for some marketing company. 1:03:16.280 --> 1:03:18.440 And then I get a call one day and he's like, Yo, 1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:21.960 I'm over here at Larrybie and I'm mixing. Now I'm 1:03:21.960 --> 1:03:24.720 like mixing. What are you? What are you talking about? 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:27.640 He was like, Yo, I'm I'm I'm over here. I'm 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:30.240 a runnerunner. 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:33.000 In the beginning, he was assistant. 1:03:33.280 --> 1:03:36.680 He was a run No, everyone wasn't even assistant. He 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:43.440 was a runner first, yes, you know, yes, yeah, and 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:47.840 then he became an assistant for Dave he became an 1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:51.960 assistant for David Soo and he called me and was like, bro, 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:54.560 I'm gonna need you, I'm gonna need you. I was 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:58.760 like what He was like, I'm mixing now and me 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:01.840 and Dave. So I started managing me, and Damon started 1:04:01.840 --> 1:04:04.000 managing Dave and Jason. 1:04:04.880 --> 1:04:09.000 So they used to I don't know, I managed David 1:04:09.240 --> 1:04:13.919 and uh Jason, and they had they were That's where 1:04:13.920 --> 1:04:15.160 the Pensado group came from. 1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:20.800 That's that was Jason and Daves mixing entity. So Jason 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:24.680 and I remember this is crazy too. How Jason really 1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:27.200 how he got his first record that he mixed on 1:04:27.240 --> 1:04:32.920 his own. I got a call from this is when 1:04:32.960 --> 1:04:35.760 he was working real happy with Tricky and Dream and 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:39.240 all of them, and they called and they was like, 1:04:39.920 --> 1:04:43.360 we want this record to be mixed, but we want 1:04:43.440 --> 1:04:46.800 Jason to mix it. We was like, what record is that? 1:04:48.160 --> 1:04:50.880 They was like mm hm this record called single Ladies, 1:04:57.080 --> 1:05:03.680 So so listen. So we get we get a call 1:05:03.760 --> 1:05:06.040 and he's in the dilemma like, Hey, what am I 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:08.200 going to do? They want me to mix this without Dave? 1:05:08.320 --> 1:05:12.880 How am you know what I mean? So that was 1:05:12.920 --> 1:05:16.120 the first record he mixed on his own. What single ladies. 1:05:17.640 --> 1:05:20.480 Get the fuck out of here, single ladies. That's the 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:21.280 way to kick it off. 1:05:21.480 --> 1:05:23.200 That's the way to get them. 1:05:25.400 --> 1:05:25.880 Yeah. 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:27.920 Thanks the Tricky you know what I mean. Tricky and 1:05:28.000 --> 1:05:30.200 Dream You know what I mean. Tricky and Dream brought 1:05:30.240 --> 1:05:31.760 him that record. They wanted him to do it on 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:34.160 his own, and that was and they gave him a chance. 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:36.760 He did it and killed it. Yeah, and the rest 1:05:36.800 --> 1:05:37.280 is history. 1:05:37.440 --> 1:05:39.880 Oh my god. And this had been the first time 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:42.080 you had ever managed. 1:05:41.640 --> 1:05:44.360 A mixing Yeah, this is the first time I ever managed. 1:05:44.120 --> 1:05:46.640 Before him and Dave, Like at that point you were 1:05:46.680 --> 1:05:48.720 purely just artists, artist. 1:05:48.440 --> 1:05:51.480 Producers, writers, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:05:50.960 --> 1:05:54.600 Because what's the what's the difference in managing. 1:05:55.960 --> 1:05:58.040 I know, I know the difference between managing the artists 1:05:58.040 --> 1:06:01.000 and managing even producer or you know, someone on from 1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:05.360 the behind the scenes. But there has to be differences 1:06:05.400 --> 1:06:09.440 in managing a producer writer then managing the mixer. 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:12.960 Yeah, it's a big difference. It's a huge And. 1:06:13.040 --> 1:06:15.080 You kind of give us some insight on how you. 1:06:17.000 --> 1:06:20.200 Like is it traditional selling? Like you know what I'm saying, 1:06:20.200 --> 1:06:23.640 Like you go into the office and like you want 1:06:23.640 --> 1:06:25.200 to mix, Oh no, I got to mix for you 1:06:25.680 --> 1:06:30.000 listen to this, like, no, that was that itself. 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:33.400 Yes, it was organic, you know what I mean, Like 1:06:33.840 --> 1:06:38.040 it was an organic type of situation that manifested with that. 1:06:38.160 --> 1:06:40.760 Like that's something I mean, you can go do that 1:06:41.040 --> 1:06:44.360 and say, hey, I managed this mixing in here's what 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:47.520 he's done. But a lot of that was just. 1:06:47.920 --> 1:06:50.800 You kind of walked you well, you kind of walked 1:06:50.840 --> 1:06:52.920 into something that had some legs to it. 1:06:53.200 --> 1:06:54.480 Yeah, and because. 1:06:57.280 --> 1:06:58.600 Popping, you know what I'm saying. 1:06:58.960 --> 1:07:02.400 They already he was already you know, people went to him. 1:07:02.480 --> 1:07:05.000 You know, they loved his vocals, they loved how he 1:07:05.160 --> 1:07:07.640 made their vocals sound. And that's what made Jason so 1:07:07.760 --> 1:07:10.400 dope is because he's knew how to make your beats 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:14.000 keep knocking, but your vocals focus on and a lot 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:15.800 of a lot of mixing engineers don't know how to 1:07:15.840 --> 1:07:16.240 do both. 1:07:17.120 --> 1:07:23.400 Yeah, and now you have the new kid whose whose 1:07:23.440 --> 1:07:28.000 first solo mix is this big fucking this big fucking 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:33.280 so it's like the calling card, Yes you don't there's 1:07:33.320 --> 1:07:34.120 nothing else to sell. 1:07:34.600 --> 1:07:37.840 There's there's nothing else to sell. So he pretty much 1:07:38.080 --> 1:07:41.000 you know, he's that's like pretty much like self contained, 1:07:41.040 --> 1:07:42.360 like yeah, you know what I mean. 1:07:43.680 --> 1:07:46.800 And you guys have been working together. How many years? Now? 1:07:48.440 --> 1:07:50.760 When was that when we because that's when I first 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:53.320 met him? When you where was that that was? That 1:07:53.360 --> 1:08:02.840 was two nineteen ninety money thousand, two thousand, two thousand. Yes, 1:08:03.640 --> 1:08:05.600 that's when I first met Jason. I mean I had 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:08.760 known him probably for like a year when he came around. 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:11.919 Ye, let's talk about when he came around. Sure, let's 1:08:11.920 --> 1:08:14.440 talk about when he came around. Man, you know you 1:08:14.520 --> 1:08:17.360 say this nigga life, Man, I did damn right, I 1:08:17.439 --> 1:08:23.400 did save I did save save Jay. I'll just say 1:08:23.400 --> 1:08:27.840 I just said. I'll just say I believed. Listen, I believe. 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:30.680 But I heard, Okay, I heard a few things, and 1:08:30.760 --> 1:08:31.879 I was like this kid. 1:08:32.120 --> 1:08:33.519 Nice, there's a difference. 1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:34.200 Nice. 1:08:34.320 --> 1:08:40.479 There's a difference between believing and your money putting your 1:08:40.600 --> 1:08:41.160 money up. 1:08:41.560 --> 1:08:42.680 Yes, it is. 1:08:42.920 --> 1:08:45.639 There is a great difference. I have seen the nigga 1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:51.920 like you. 1:08:49.000 --> 1:08:50.400 Help me with my talent. 1:08:51.120 --> 1:08:55.639 Ship back to me. No, No, this nigga was like this, Nah, nigga, 1:08:56.439 --> 1:08:57.360 come to the studio. 1:08:58.439 --> 1:09:02.959 I need songs. I had my equipment on deck. Nigga, 1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:04.679 nigga way before a computer. 1:09:04.760 --> 1:09:08.080 N he did you came in with your PC keyboarding? 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:09.200 There let's work. 1:09:10.000 --> 1:09:16.840 Yes, I wrote the song, yes, yes, everything. He had 1:09:16.880 --> 1:09:19.200 all everything, yo, Nigga. 1:09:19.280 --> 1:09:23.400 He came to the studio with his keyboard. Niggas like, 1:09:24.040 --> 1:09:27.880 create a song. I'm ready to work, and so came 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:30.400 in there, laid it down. 1:09:31.680 --> 1:09:32.000 Gat him. 1:09:32.040 --> 1:09:35.439 Niggas they parts sing this ship nigga, let's God. And 1:09:35.479 --> 1:09:38.160 that nigga was like, nigga because. 1:09:37.880 --> 1:09:39.520 How old are you? Just played like twenty. 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:40.760 One, twenty twenty. 1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:43.599 Two or twenty three? Wow? 1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:47.760 Yeah, and niggas this Niggas like nigga, No nigga, Yeah, yeah, 1:09:47.840 --> 1:09:48.280 you got it. 1:09:48.600 --> 1:09:50.559 We're gonna do. How to introduce you? 1:09:50.800 --> 1:09:53.200 I got to introduce you to Jerald Yeah, him and 1:09:53.280 --> 1:09:56.479 Jameson gotta introduce you, Jail nigga and I I went 1:09:56.520 --> 1:10:01.840 and said you and and Dreino has my my background. 1:10:01.439 --> 1:10:04.519 Singers, yes who. I'm working on their ship too. At 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:07.000 the same time I'm working on his. You have a record. 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:08.479 I have a record record. 1:10:08.720 --> 1:10:10.840 That's why I'm out there in l ah It was 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:14.719 a litt quiet, little wife and my hotel is about 1:10:14.720 --> 1:10:17.800 to run out le Montross. 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:19.760 Are you gonna one of the other one? 1:10:20.760 --> 1:10:23.960 My hotel was getting running the fuck out, telling me 1:10:24.000 --> 1:10:26.080 that I think I'm not to not have nowhere to. 1:10:26.080 --> 1:10:26.560 Stay all that. 1:10:27.800 --> 1:10:30.679 No, he was, you know, niggas niggas be lying, No. 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:34.280 No, I said, niggas. Shit is almost open. Niggas handling 1:10:34.800 --> 1:10:37.160 and nigga. Joe Buzzy said, I like your tunes. 1:10:37.760 --> 1:10:41.759 Yeah, I like your tone. These are good, good tunes, 1:10:41.800 --> 1:10:42.599 good records. Man. 1:10:43.520 --> 1:10:45.240 I like, I like, I like what you're doing, and 1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:48.160 I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna give you seventeen to five. 1:10:49.080 --> 1:10:50.439 You know, I was like this, IM about to get 1:10:50.479 --> 1:10:54.640 seventeen thousand and five. I was like, I was like, okay, 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:57.240 I said, thank you so much. You know what I'm saying, 1:10:57.280 --> 1:11:00.679 like you're grabbing, you know, seventeen five. Okay, He's okay, 1:11:00.680 --> 1:11:02.559 So that's the total, he said, this is it? No, 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:07.400 it is seventeen five for two. Do you want two 1:11:07.439 --> 1:11:09.760 records for seventeen five? That's fine, I'll tell you, no, 1:11:10.080 --> 1:11:11.320 I want two records. 1:11:11.600 --> 1:11:22.519 Third, I'll say, ooh, and one is. 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:22.960 For your group. 1:11:23.800 --> 1:11:26.599 Yes, yes, that was the first one. 1:11:26.760 --> 1:11:27.120 The first one. 1:11:27.360 --> 1:11:31.040 I was the one who I should have supposed to. 1:11:31.160 --> 1:11:32.720 Don't get that twisted. Jay I was the one to 1:11:32.840 --> 1:11:33.240 wash it the. 1:11:33.520 --> 1:11:35.760 Second ones as a producer. Second one was going to mo. 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:41.120 Yes, the second I was going to text, yeah the dog. 1:11:42.439 --> 1:11:44.160 You were first, brother, Okay, you were first. 1:11:44.200 --> 1:11:46.200 Want everybody to know. I don't want niggas to be 1:11:46.200 --> 1:11:48.439 getting confused. I heard somebody else say that they was 1:11:48.479 --> 1:11:50.639 the first one to give you producer. But I heard 1:11:50.680 --> 1:11:53.760 now somebody said that Bryan Alexander was the first one 1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:58.200 to believe. I have to give him that, Bernard. Bernard 1:11:58.200 --> 1:12:00.400 Alexander was the first one to believe. I have to 1:12:00.439 --> 1:12:04.520 give him that because he heard maybe I deserve before anybody, 1:12:04.760 --> 1:12:05.640 and he was sending me. 1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:09.200 He was sending it. He was the check was the day. 1:12:09.560 --> 1:12:12.840 It was okay, And Barry Hankerson called and said, if 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:14.519 you sell that song, I'm gonna kill you. 1:12:15.439 --> 1:12:18.880 I said, but you told me to sell it, and. 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:19.880 Now everybody wants it. 1:12:20.040 --> 1:12:34.360 Now we can't collect that. Yeah, okay, he was. He 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:35.280 was about. 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:37.479 To see that's the one. That's the I'm about to do. 1:12:37.680 --> 1:12:41.080 You got No, it wasn't his fault. He ran up 1:12:41.120 --> 1:12:44.160 against the monster. But if he paid for it, if 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:47.240 you pay for it time, No, No, it was a 1:12:47.360 --> 1:12:50.080 day late. It was a day late and a dollar short, 1:12:50.160 --> 1:12:52.519 and Barry Hankerson wasn't wasn't no, he wasn't nobody to 1:12:52.560 --> 1:12:55.439 play with it. That wasn't you don't you don't really 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:56.400 play with him at that time. 1:12:57.600 --> 1:12:58.400 Not the first nigga. 1:12:58.760 --> 1:13:02.120 Good cut right here, same the cutter. 1:13:05.439 --> 1:13:08.000 About to kick you. Listen. 1:13:08.240 --> 1:13:11.639 The Mantos always sent you away with a chocolate chip, 1:13:11.680 --> 1:13:16.800 cookies and a strawberry, so you already giving you They 1:13:16.880 --> 1:13:19.880 gave my notice here put that chocolate chip on your pillow. 1:13:21.240 --> 1:13:24.639 Sir. You got to get out of here. 1:13:25.200 --> 1:13:27.400 You gotta get the funk out, and I had nowhere 1:13:27.439 --> 1:13:31.599 to stay. It's all right, and listen, believe when man 1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:33.519 I knew you was going to be you know what happened. 1:13:34.280 --> 1:13:35.599 I went and bought some rims. 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:38.320 Understood you had twelve cards. 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:44.760 I definitely you know, also had a video store. I 1:13:44.760 --> 1:13:45.680 had the video. 1:13:48.320 --> 1:13:52.880 Yeah, yeah, you listen, here's what's so crazy about you 1:13:52.880 --> 1:13:53.719 having a video store. 1:13:54.000 --> 1:13:55.840 I used to go get so many videos from the 1:13:55.920 --> 1:13:58.479 video store. The niggas will borrow videos from me. 1:13:59.520 --> 1:14:01.680 What you think he might still have some videos that 1:14:01.880 --> 1:14:04.639 were from tr didn't even know if. 1:14:04.520 --> 1:14:08.360 You, yeah, you might have had them joints killing him. 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:09.960 Then they started doing a DVD. 1:14:10.360 --> 1:14:12.920 I have insurance on those like because nigga usually just 1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:15.320 keep the videos, man, Like, how did you. 1:14:14.840 --> 1:14:18.760 Know niggas used to have to call and harass the 1:14:18.840 --> 1:14:22.280 people videos? Yo, when did you bring in the video back? 1:14:22.520 --> 1:14:24.920 Like I just I just want to hear your voice. 1:14:24.640 --> 1:14:29.320 Saying kin and rewind Please, hey, my nigga, my nigga 1:14:30.600 --> 1:14:34.960 a video. Bro, you got Sally those black five days late? Nigga, 1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:41.120 you got Sally Goes black talents. You had to for 1:14:41.520 --> 1:14:44.280 two months? Now what are we doing? Come on, my nigga. 1:14:44.439 --> 1:14:46.120 Oh man, you gotta be done with them. 1:14:47.560 --> 1:14:50.040 You have to call number Blockbuster used to call you. 1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:53.320 What Blockbusters would be on the nigga calling you like them? 1:14:54.120 --> 1:14:55.960 But think about that though. They have to be a 1:14:56.000 --> 1:14:59.080 real honor system for you to just bring something. 1:14:58.760 --> 1:15:02.840 Back because you wanted something. Yeah, but yeah, but think 1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:03.639 about right now. 1:15:04.320 --> 1:15:10.559 Oh no, no, good luck, good luck with that, Good 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:13.400 luck with that, with your videos. Think in your video 1:15:17.120 --> 1:15:21.559 come get me, get find me at that bogus address 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:28.200 a more serious note, how does. 1:15:28.080 --> 1:15:30.120 All this lead. 1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:34.479 You then becoming a board member and being on the 1:15:34.520 --> 1:15:35.920 board of Carnegie Hall? 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:41.960 How does that happen? So Jay? That kind of came 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:47.360 about because my whole life I value relationships like that 1:15:47.800 --> 1:15:49.320 to me is more important than anything. 1:15:49.640 --> 1:15:52.120 We've never not been friends, you know. 1:15:52.120 --> 1:15:54.519 What I'm saying, Like, I don't have I can't, I 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:57.160 can't even I don't know. I don't have any enemies. 1:15:57.880 --> 1:16:00.400 I don't know anybody that you were men my name 1:16:00.439 --> 1:16:01.080 and niggas be. 1:16:01.040 --> 1:16:03.200 Like that, niggas fuck nigga. 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:05.559 I don't fuck with him like every it's every I'm 1:16:05.640 --> 1:16:09.559 just cool because I know how valuable valuable relationships are. 1:16:09.680 --> 1:16:11.720 That's the most important, more than money to me, man, 1:16:11.720 --> 1:16:14.320 because you can get money and lose money. I've had money, 1:16:14.360 --> 1:16:17.759 lost money, but this kind of relationships are the ones 1:16:17.800 --> 1:16:21.920 that you know, keep you going. So I just develop 1:16:21.960 --> 1:16:27.400 a lot of relationships. So one day I'm doing I'm 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:30.200 into political shit. This girl calls me and like, Yo, 1:16:30.680 --> 1:16:33.479 you know all of these celebrities, you know these people. 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:36.880 Biden is trying to, you know, figure out what he's 1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:40.080 wanting to do for his first hundred days in office, 1:16:40.200 --> 1:16:43.200 and we need you to, you know, get these celebrities 1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:47.479 and get these influences to come on board for this. 1:16:47.600 --> 1:16:49.680 And I'm like sure, I'm like you know what I mean. 1:16:49.680 --> 1:16:52.519 So we used to do these zoom calls and it 1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:54.519 would be all these political people, and there'd be like 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:58.519 sixty people on these calls. And this this girl from DC, 1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:03.120 her name is Lelania, her mom is was the widow 1:17:03.160 --> 1:17:09.560 of Man Barry, so there she's collect connected heavily in 1:17:09.640 --> 1:17:14.519 the political game. So we used to do these zoom 1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:19.240 calls and I used to be on there and we 1:17:19.280 --> 1:17:23.360 would have calls about all of this stuff, and then 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:26.519 I would always speak up and be like, listen, y'all 1:17:26.600 --> 1:17:29.960 keep going after all of these celebrities, these older celebrities. 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:32.439 You're trying to get these kids. You got to get 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:34.800 somebody that they're going to relate to, Like, they're not 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:38.160 going to relate to these old people, these older these 1:17:38.200 --> 1:17:42.120 older athletes or these older entertainers. So let's focus on 1:17:42.160 --> 1:17:44.759 getting like some of these somebody who's in the political 1:17:44.840 --> 1:17:47.880 space that's young that they're going to listen to. They're 1:17:47.880 --> 1:17:51.439 not going to listen to these other people. So the dude, 1:17:51.439 --> 1:17:53.080 one of the dudes that was on the call called 1:17:53.120 --> 1:17:56.120 me offline one day and was like, hey man, He 1:17:56.280 --> 1:17:58.880 was like, bro, like you'd be on these calls and 1:17:59.040 --> 1:18:01.600 I look the way you hand yourself and you know 1:18:01.640 --> 1:18:04.240 a lot of people, what do you think about Carnegie Hall, 1:18:04.280 --> 1:18:08.519 and I was like, Carnegie Hall. That's the fucking like, 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:14.599 that's the krim Della Krima venues. Like. He was like, yeah, 1:18:14.720 --> 1:18:16.799 you know, Robert Smith is the chairman of the board 1:18:16.880 --> 1:18:20.799 and they really want to bring culture over to Carnegie. 1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:23.600 And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm in. And he 1:18:23.720 --> 1:18:25.720 was like all right, I want to. I really fuck 1:18:25.760 --> 1:18:27.360 with you. I'll rock with you. I want I think you, 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:29.719 I think you would be perfect for this. I was like, okay, 1:18:30.439 --> 1:18:31.960 let me, let me do what I need to do. 1:18:32.000 --> 1:18:33.640 He was like, okay, I want to introduce you to 1:18:34.200 --> 1:18:36.360 the people that Carnegie. You meet me up in New York. 1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:40.040 Have you go meet to people at Carnegie. So I went. 1:18:40.800 --> 1:18:44.600 You know, it's a Carnegie Hall. They don't do the 1:18:44.640 --> 1:18:49.479 business we do, especially not the music, right. Everything is 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:52.840 chopped like when they say they gonna do stop, this 1:18:52.880 --> 1:18:56.519 gets done there. Like they booked stuff Street they booked 1:18:56.600 --> 1:18:58.800 like three and four years out right. That's not ship 1:18:58.880 --> 1:19:04.920 we used to So I'm coming in. So so I 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:07.040 went up there and I met with them and they 1:19:07.040 --> 1:19:09.559 were like, yo, we want to bring you on. I 1:19:09.600 --> 1:19:12.439 was like okay, And then I'm in the hallway right 1:19:13.120 --> 1:19:18.280 of Carnegie and there there's these pictures, old pictures of 1:19:19.520 --> 1:19:22.679 people in the old show, like black and white pictures. 1:19:23.160 --> 1:19:25.880 I'm looking at the pictures thinking, and I'm like, I say, goddamn, 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:30.200 everybody's dressed up. Like we don't get dressed up. No, 1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:33.920 Like people don't go to concerts. They don't get dressed up. 1:19:33.960 --> 1:19:37.760 No more So, I said, yo, I told my man. 1:19:37.800 --> 1:19:40.240 I was like, man, listen, if we do anything over here, bro, 1:19:40.400 --> 1:19:43.360 it has to be black tie and it has to 1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:47.400 be an orchestra company. The artists like, that's what we 1:19:47.479 --> 1:19:50.479 gotta do. I said, I want to make this where 1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:54.479 it's totally an experience. This ain't going like going to 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:57.280 the Barclays or going to Apollo. You got to get 1:19:57.360 --> 1:19:59.200 dressed up. And if you can't get dressed up, this 1:19:59.200 --> 1:20:02.559 ain't ain't venue spanked the venue for you. Maybe you 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:05.080 go to another one another, go see this artist at 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:08.160 another another venue, but not here. I ain't having no 1:20:08.240 --> 1:20:10.320 hoodies and none of that ship. So the people at 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:13.120 Carnege was like, okay, let's let's let's let's rock out 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:18.599 and let's do it. So it's this funny story, so crazy. 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:22.200 So we're in the studio Jason's mixing the record of 1:20:22.280 --> 1:20:25.679 D Nice. He's mixing it, mixing the D Nice record. 1:20:26.400 --> 1:20:28.160 So I'm in a studio and I keep looking at 1:20:28.200 --> 1:20:28.599 D Nice. 1:20:28.600 --> 1:20:31.800 I'm like, quart is that when he had the D 1:20:31.920 --> 1:20:33.000 Nice and Neo record. 1:20:33.400 --> 1:20:36.599 No, it was a it was a record that they 1:20:36.800 --> 1:20:39.240 it was an older record that he came back and redid. 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:43.719 And I'm looking at him and jajas you know, Jaha 1:20:44.120 --> 1:20:46.720 and d and Nice were they were rocking together. And 1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:50.280 I'm looking at D Nice and I'm like club Quarantine 1:20:50.400 --> 1:20:54.320 Carnegie Yah. I kept thinking this in my fucking head, 1:20:54.640 --> 1:20:56.439 and so I said, D Nice. I went over to him. 1:20:56.479 --> 1:21:01.080 I said, Yo, what do you think about carnegi y'all? 1:21:01.080 --> 1:21:03.600 Would you want to perform at Carnegie Hall? And he 1:21:03.680 --> 1:21:06.920 looked at me. He said what He was like, nigga, 1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:11.840 that's on my bucket list? I said really, I said, 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:13.880 all right? I said, what do you think if I 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:16.160 could make it happen like I could, if I could 1:21:16.520 --> 1:21:20.360 make it happen, he was like me, how how are 1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:23.559 you gonna get me? You're gonna get me at Carnegie Hall? 1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:28.120 I'm like, man, let me let me figure it out. 1:21:28.400 --> 1:21:31.280 So I sent the people. I said, listen, we should 1:21:31.320 --> 1:21:35.360 do Club Quarantine at Carnegie Hall. And they were like, 1:21:36.400 --> 1:21:40.120 who is the nice? I was like, so of course 1:21:40.120 --> 1:21:42.599 they wouldn't google him. Coach said he was. He was. 1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:46.439 He was a guy doing COVID. You know. He had 1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:50.919 everybody from from Obama to Oprah to Bien to everybody 1:21:50.960 --> 1:21:54.719 on his fucking on his line playing music during COVID 1:21:54.760 --> 1:21:57.720 because nobody couldn't go out. And I said, he went 1:21:57.720 --> 1:22:00.640 from ten thousand followers to three million followers, you know 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:03.040 what I mean. And they were like, oh, this one 1:22:03.080 --> 1:22:05.040 might be this might be nice. Well let's do it. 1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:07.719 So I hit Jajah back and I told her, I said, 1:22:07.720 --> 1:22:09.920 tell the nice I got. We we can do this 1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:14.840 show at Carnegie. He was like, no way. I was 1:22:14.880 --> 1:22:18.360 like yeah, So we did the show. The first show 1:22:18.400 --> 1:22:23.120 we ever did was Club Quarantine and cardig y'all. When 1:22:23.160 --> 1:22:29.280 I tell you man, people dressed up. It was I'm 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:32.879 looking at I'm looking at people walking in with gowns 1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:41.519 and niggas with tuxedos on, and I'm like, this is 1:22:41.560 --> 1:22:47.880 Carnegie Hall. So I said, So the show was on 1:22:47.920 --> 1:22:50.599 and you know, people was up and and racticst Niggas 1:22:50.600 --> 1:22:52.840 was singing and dancing. Because you know, the nice play 1:22:52.880 --> 1:22:55.760 all a dope music. He had Queen Ladieth would come out, 1:22:56.400 --> 1:22:59.160 he had Slick Rick come out, He had all these 1:22:59.200 --> 1:23:03.280 people come out foreman, and everybody's dressed up and having 1:23:03.320 --> 1:23:06.760 a good time. So there's the guy over there who 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:12.120 is the chairman of Carnegie, who runs Carnegie. He was like, here, 1:23:12.120 --> 1:23:13.760 we were in the booth together, you know, they got 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:15.880 them little booths. And he looked at me and he 1:23:15.960 --> 1:23:17.519 was like, Terry. He was like, I've been over here 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:20.120 for twenty years, man, and I've never seen a hall 1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:23.720 rocking life. It's never felt like this. This energy is crazy. 1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:26.599 And I said, I was like, thank you, and he 1:23:26.680 --> 1:23:29.519 was like and I was like, even better. I said, 1:23:29.520 --> 1:23:31.839 look around at here. And we started looking around in 1:23:31.560 --> 1:23:34.960 the in the audience right and I said, ninety nine 1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:37.840 percent of the people who are in here now have 1:23:38.200 --> 1:23:42.080 never been to fucking Carnegie Hall. And I said, we 1:23:42.200 --> 1:23:48.200 did this. I said, we did this, and I've changed 1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:50.800 the culture at Carnegie Hall, completely changed the culture at 1:23:50.840 --> 1:23:56.360 Carnegie like now, before I used to say stuff, So 1:23:56.400 --> 1:23:58.760 they starting to pivot for me, because you know, we 1:23:58.840 --> 1:24:01.080 don't fink like we don't function like that. So I 1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:02.840 might call and say I need to book a show 1:24:03.600 --> 1:24:07.040 for a fucking May of this year, Terry. You know 1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:10.000 we can't do that. The show's already booked. So they'll 1:24:10.040 --> 1:24:12.080 start to go find dates and stuff and to find 1:24:12.120 --> 1:24:14.360 people who ain't you know what I mean. You know 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:17.720 what I'm saying, so so then you know that. So 1:24:18.320 --> 1:24:20.960 it's just it's just it's just a wonderful experience, man. 1:24:20.960 --> 1:24:22.960 And the people that I have lined up coming over 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:26.800 there is just it's insane, Like justin Timberlake, US. Sure. 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:29.240 I mean these people that I've already talked to him, 1:24:29.520 --> 1:24:31.920 they want to be I talk to you about y'all 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:32.400 coming over. 1:24:34.040 --> 1:24:39.360 Big band at Carnegie Hall? Okay, big band in orchestra 1:24:39.760 --> 1:24:41.040 at Carnegie Hall. 1:24:41.280 --> 1:24:41.559 Done? 1:24:42.120 --> 1:24:43.160 Frank Sinatra? 1:24:43.960 --> 1:24:54.280 Uh uh uh? What's the other album? Marvin Gaye's big 1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:59.520 band album. I want to grab pieces, big band pieces 1:25:00.560 --> 1:25:01.080 go crazy. 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:04.759 That's great. That's that's that's amazing. That's amazing. 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:07.240 With my tucks on a shirt and. 1:25:07.160 --> 1:25:11.519 A shirt and you can take it off whatever if 1:25:11.520 --> 1:25:14.880 you want to. You want to conduct the orchestra too, 1:25:16.520 --> 1:25:17.080 you want to sing? 1:25:17.240 --> 1:25:22.400 Okay, all right, and we want Michael buffer an announce. 1:25:25.280 --> 1:25:28.400 We can have that. We can have that, brother, brother, 1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:29.320 what do you do to UFC? 1:25:31.320 --> 1:25:33.280 We get the I need it? 1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:36.240 So Jay is are we confirming this? 1:25:36.320 --> 1:25:42.519 Absolutely? I need on? If he confirms, we confer, I. 1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:47.400 Need glasper or Tim carrmon on piano like I need things. 1:25:47.720 --> 1:25:49.960 Okay, let's do it. 1:25:49.960 --> 1:25:52.000 Feels like it can happen. You know what I loved, 1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:53.600 I love and wine in the summertime. 1:25:54.240 --> 1:25:55.160 It's the best time. 1:25:55.360 --> 1:25:56.920 I feel like we can do it. This summer. We 1:25:56.920 --> 1:25:59.400 get a summertime. Can you find can you find me 1:25:59.400 --> 1:25:59.920 a summer day? 1:26:00.320 --> 1:26:02.000 Let me find let me, let me let me find 1:26:02.000 --> 1:26:02.920 out R and. 1:26:02.920 --> 1:26:08.840 B money uh constituents. We will be at Carnegie Hall, 1:26:10.360 --> 1:26:13.760 suited and booted. Yeah, tuxt and. 1:26:13.840 --> 1:26:20.720 Buck ah man this summer doing the standards, doing the standards, 1:26:21.040 --> 1:26:26.760 big voice, big band, all curated, one sound and one sound. 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:28.920 Let me ask you a question curated by Let me 1:26:28.920 --> 1:26:31.479 ask you a question. Yes, would this be your first 1:26:31.560 --> 1:26:32.959 time performing at Carnia? 1:26:33.720 --> 1:26:34.240 Absolutely? 1:26:34.320 --> 1:26:44.880 Yeah, damn to another, I'm another first pause, Yes, I'm yep, yep, 1:26:45.320 --> 1:26:46.720 damn come on, make come on. 1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:50.360 Make key collected, baby, I gotta keep collecting collected, you know, 1:26:50.560 --> 1:26:54.120 come on, man, you know what I'm saying. Summertime, summertime, 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:56.800 when I leave here, I'm gonna call and see if 1:26:56.800 --> 1:26:58.040 we got any days in the summertime. 1:26:58.080 --> 1:26:58.439 Perfect. 1:26:58.760 --> 1:27:01.200 We're gonna make it happen. I can't wait for the show. 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:05.800 It's going to happen. That's going to happen. Date and 1:27:05.840 --> 1:27:07.719 Take is putting it out there that he wants to something. 1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:08.080 Date. 1:27:08.680 --> 1:27:12.240 Okay, he wants the he want tell me a date 1:27:13.360 --> 1:27:16.960 so we can get the cooking. I'm talking charting chart. 1:27:17.040 --> 1:27:19.560 And you start looking for the nigga charts. 1:27:20.720 --> 1:27:23.920 I'm in I'm talking in here, nigga. That's what you're 1:27:23.960 --> 1:27:27.400 gonna do. You know, you go three your own streams. 1:27:28.040 --> 1:27:30.080 I'm oh ship upright. 1:27:30.600 --> 1:27:36.640 Yeah. I want to say another story that that a 1:27:36.680 --> 1:27:39.240 lot of people don't know too. I used to manage 1:27:39.320 --> 1:27:41.000 him tunk and got him his deal and. 1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:47.040 Yeah yeah, oh yeah, y'all robbed the bank too, and 1:27:47.120 --> 1:27:48.120 y'all came through with that one. 1:27:48.200 --> 1:27:49.360 Y'all had no mask on. 1:27:50.520 --> 1:27:53.680 From Toya, you know him and Toya. Yeah, so I 1:27:53.720 --> 1:27:57.360 got I got him his deal that tennis through Jaha, 1:27:57.680 --> 1:27:58.639 I can wow. 1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:03.160 And then that ended up going to for real at first, right, that's. 1:28:03.080 --> 1:28:08.360 In the whole night. It was, it was, it was 1:28:10.360 --> 1:28:15.200 I'll tell that story. Slim called me one night late night, 1:28:15.520 --> 1:28:19.720 like yo, because you know, and at Interscope or at 1:28:20.600 --> 1:28:26.120 Jimmy always puts a producer with the artist. So Slim 1:28:26.200 --> 1:28:30.760 calls me and was like, man, Yo, g man, they 1:28:30.800 --> 1:28:33.200 want to put me in with They wanted Pharrell to 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:37.200 do my whole album. And I'm like what, I'm like, 1:28:37.720 --> 1:28:41.360 I don't like Slim, I'm like, yo, I said, man, 1:28:41.439 --> 1:28:45.080 that's pretty sound you got. Is like, that's a real, 1:28:45.160 --> 1:28:49.040 right thing. That's a real thing. Nobody's fu heard that. 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:52.600 Nobody's doing that. I said. I mean, I said, you 1:28:52.640 --> 1:28:54.479 know you for Rella is incredible. I'm like, I know 1:28:54.560 --> 1:28:58.400 for and he's he's on fire. That's when he Farrell 1:28:58.520 --> 1:29:00.560 was on fire. I said, but his sound is a 1:29:00.600 --> 1:29:02.360 little too clean for you. I said, what we should 1:29:02.439 --> 1:29:04.599 do is get two or three songs for the for 1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:07.160 the females, like half forhar Real, do the songs for 1:29:07.280 --> 1:29:10.759 the for the brods. You keep that same old tipping 1:29:10.840 --> 1:29:15.720 on four folds. And because nobody, he was like, man, man, 1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:17.880 I've been listening to these songs for all these years. 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:20.680 I was like Slim, when I first heard it, it 1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:22.400 was something different. 1:29:23.680 --> 1:29:23.960 Us. 1:29:24.240 --> 1:29:25.760 Everybody else is gonna feel the same way. 1:29:25.800 --> 1:29:28.800 I felt like, let's keep that same energy and then 1:29:28.840 --> 1:29:32.200 you then you him, yes, then you do the. 1:29:32.160 --> 1:29:37.000 For real joints. He was like, man, they want me 1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:38.960 to do this. I was like, man, I was like, man, 1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:42.680 I love pharreal Real is incredible. But that sound, your 1:29:42.760 --> 1:29:46.679 sound is your sound, and nobody's doing that right now, 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:48.679 you know what I mean. That's coming straight out of Texas. 1:29:48.680 --> 1:29:51.519 Nobody's doing that. Nobody on the heast is hearing that. 1:29:52.240 --> 1:29:55.600 Andy he went, you know, and did the thing with 1:29:56.360 --> 1:29:57.679 he did, and then. 1:29:57.560 --> 1:30:00.599 Then it worked out for him because if it's and 1:30:00.640 --> 1:30:02.600 he just really got all of his ship back, he 1:30:02.680 --> 1:30:05.680 got all that money. Yeah, did that deal? Yeah, the 1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:09.560 deal didn't pan out the way. He got all his ownership, 1:30:09.640 --> 1:30:12.960 he got all and really his independence. 1:30:12.760 --> 1:30:15.519 He got his independence, but she had and I begged him. 1:30:16.000 --> 1:30:18.920 I begged like like and I heard him. And the 1:30:18.960 --> 1:30:21.120 reason why I heard him because when Toyo brought him 1:30:21.200 --> 1:30:23.080 up to me and she you know, they was going 1:30:23.080 --> 1:30:25.640 out or whatever. She was like, you never heard of 1:30:25.680 --> 1:30:28.559 slim Thing. I was like, no, I never heard of him. Noah, 1:30:28.640 --> 1:30:30.720 I never heard of him. So one day we was 1:30:30.760 --> 1:30:33.160 in the studio and I was sleep. You know how 1:30:33.160 --> 1:30:35.040 you be half of sleep in the studio, but you 1:30:35.080 --> 1:30:38.040 can still hear the music. And I'm in there. I'm late, 1:30:38.120 --> 1:30:41.400 I'm asleep. And then he was rapping on one of 1:30:41.400 --> 1:30:44.240 these songs. He I was like, what the fuck is that? 1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:47.599 I said, I said, Toya, that's him. She was like, yeah, 1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:50.439 that's Slim. I was like, Oh, that Nigga's incredible. I said, Bro, 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:53.120 you don't want a deal. He was like, nah, gee, 1:30:53.160 --> 1:30:55.760 I don't want no deal. Man, I'm staying independent. I 1:30:55.800 --> 1:30:56.639 don't want no deal. 1:30:56.840 --> 1:30:59.960 Was like, this is way before independent was even the thing. Yeah, 1:31:00.080 --> 1:31:01.519 And that was like he understood it. 1:31:02.320 --> 1:31:04.160 And I was like, he was like, nah, I don't 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:07.200 want no deal. So one day he called me, he 1:31:07.240 --> 1:31:11.439 was like, gee, I'm ready. He's like, go get my deal. 1:31:11.800 --> 1:31:15.559 I said, all right, went right over to Jaja, ran 1:31:15.640 --> 1:31:19.960 over to Geff, got him his deal, big deal for 1:31:20.080 --> 1:31:21.840 him and his boss Hog because he had a crew 1:31:21.880 --> 1:31:22.759 called boss Hogs. 1:31:23.280 --> 1:31:25.960 Got him in his deal. Deal deal a crew, his 1:31:26.040 --> 1:31:30.080 crew are deal? Sure did that's crazy. I did not 1:31:30.200 --> 1:31:33.400 know that I've been doing. 1:31:33.400 --> 1:31:36.160 You know. I used to manage Dave Hollis too. 1:31:37.120 --> 1:31:38.479 With with Bernard Yeah. 1:31:38.320 --> 1:31:41.360 Wellerd he was signed to them. He was I managed. Yeah, 1:31:41.400 --> 1:31:42.160 I managed him. 1:31:43.240 --> 1:31:48.080 That's how That's how I got to to Uh I 1:31:48.120 --> 1:31:54.000 did the album or Jason? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dave. 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:57.760 I was in his first video. Actually, I was in 1:31:57.800 --> 1:32:00.960 his first video, the video to his first Yeah. 1:32:01.400 --> 1:32:04.200 I was like, so, who Who's what's called? 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:08.479 He was signed to? He was signed to Eric's label. 1:32:08.640 --> 1:32:12.160 Listen, I mean you you again around the block, your 1:32:12.360 --> 1:32:17.599 your your your relationships, like speak to who you are. Yeah. 1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:20.960 The fact the fact that you've been able to get 1:32:21.080 --> 1:32:24.479 so much done, you know what I mean, speaks to 1:32:25.080 --> 1:32:27.479 how the people in those positions view you. 1:32:27.560 --> 1:32:28.759 Right, you know what I'm saying. 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:33.840 They know they know you're worth worth the investment, worth 1:32:33.840 --> 1:32:38.720 the time, worth the opportunity, and that that continues. 1:32:38.240 --> 1:32:40.879 To ring still. 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:51.000 But you start doing music in ninety seven. 1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:48.680 Yea. 1:32:49.760 --> 1:32:51.680 A long more fucking time. I think you. 1:32:51.960 --> 1:32:53.640 Then I did the Freaknik document I don't know if you. 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:56.000 Yeah, listen, you know I watched it. 1:32:56.000 --> 1:32:56.519 Did you watch it? 1:32:56.960 --> 1:33:01.040 I haven't seen it? Disrespectful bro, Yeah watch it. I 1:33:01.040 --> 1:33:04.599 didn't know you did it. You do so many things. 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:09.559 I didn't know you did Treaknick documentary. Absolutely not, and 1:33:09.600 --> 1:33:11.120 it's all that's not you called me and tell me 1:33:11.200 --> 1:33:11.840 that you're doing it. 1:33:12.120 --> 1:33:13.280 I mean, it makes sense for you to do the 1:33:13.320 --> 1:33:15.880 documentary if that's the ship. 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:21.920 Listen, listen, listen. It went full circle. Yeah, I went 1:33:21.960 --> 1:33:24.640 to Atlanta for Freak Nick and my first film was 1:33:24.640 --> 1:33:28.639 a Freaknick documentary, right, so it was full watch it. 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:31.200 And that's what I was going to say. 1:33:31.200 --> 1:33:34.640 I feel like when I when I look at you, 1:33:34.640 --> 1:33:37.200 know your career and how long I've known you, I 1:33:37.200 --> 1:33:40.200 feel like you've just mastered the art of the pivot. 1:33:40.760 --> 1:33:44.600 You've always figured out the next move for yourself. You 1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:46.960 don't get too caught up in because that's the other 1:33:47.000 --> 1:33:49.439 thing in this business. It's like, and we talk about this, 1:33:49.880 --> 1:33:51.640 it's the nigga who got this. He's been trying to 1:33:51.640 --> 1:33:56.040 sell the same song, yeah, for ten years and that 1:33:56.200 --> 1:34:00.000 and that, and that connects to everybody in this business. 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:00.360 M hmm. 1:34:00.920 --> 1:34:03.559 Maybe it's not the actual song, but yes, whatever you're 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:06.400 doing so you're trying to do the same song and 1:34:06.520 --> 1:34:09.800 dance that. At some point it's like, yo, maybe you 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:14.920 should try something different. Maybe maybe your talents fit somewhere else. 1:34:16.560 --> 1:34:18.080 And you know what I mean, And I and I 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:20.920 think you know, watching your careers. Even for me, it's 1:34:20.960 --> 1:34:24.719 definitely been an inspiration for me seeing someone like yourself 1:34:24.720 --> 1:34:27.200 and being like you know, and obviously understanding what you 1:34:27.280 --> 1:34:29.800 come from, understanding what I come from, he comes from. 1:34:30.080 --> 1:34:30.240 Like. 1:34:31.960 --> 1:34:34.240 Saying, you know, because we were all supposed to be 1:34:34.439 --> 1:34:40.360 something whatever people thought that was. But we've all evolved, 1:34:41.040 --> 1:34:41.360 you have. 1:34:41.520 --> 1:34:42.640 Other things, you know. 1:34:42.680 --> 1:34:44.519 I mean, nobody ever thought that we would be sitting 1:34:44.520 --> 1:34:45.839 here behind them a fucking microphone. 1:34:47.240 --> 1:34:48.200 What I'm saying, like, we. 1:34:48.280 --> 1:34:50.639 Do this ship all the time at the studio, We'll 1:34:50.680 --> 1:34:54.600 sit at the table fucking Jason Johnson dog bit me. 1:34:55.680 --> 1:34:59.360 But you don't but y'all, but but what would I 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:01.160 say about all the we know how to pivot? 1:35:01.520 --> 1:35:04.639 Well, you know what's crazy too, is that is that 1:35:05.960 --> 1:35:09.599 we weren't necessarily taught the pivot. No no, right, because 1:35:09.920 --> 1:35:13.360 because we come from a time where you do a 1:35:13.400 --> 1:35:17.120 thing and that's the thing you do, and you do 1:35:17.200 --> 1:35:20.679 it until you can't do it no more. You we've 1:35:20.720 --> 1:35:28.240 been we've been blessed to see opportunities outside of our 1:35:28.360 --> 1:35:34.040 main thing and understand how it could benefit you, understand 1:35:34.400 --> 1:35:37.400 the benefit everything and everybody that we're like, you know 1:35:37.439 --> 1:35:40.799 what that that could add to or that could be dope? 1:35:40.840 --> 1:35:44.400 If and we don't come from that, which is crazy 1:35:44.439 --> 1:35:47.519 because like when if you were to get a branding 1:35:47.640 --> 1:35:51.479 deal back in the nineties or early two thousands or like, 1:35:51.640 --> 1:35:53.640 that was just like what, oh you got a what 1:35:53.760 --> 1:35:54.280 how'd you get? 1:35:54.439 --> 1:36:00.280 Like? Seeing Tyree's model was like, how do you do that? Yeah? 1:36:00.400 --> 1:36:03.519 I remember talking to Tyree when he was first got 1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:07.000 his VJ job. Nigga, wait, you're doing what. 1:36:06.560 --> 1:36:07.160 What are you doing? 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:11.400 Like nobody was I'm gonna introduce this and then I'm 1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:14.600 gonna I'm Like people. 1:36:14.360 --> 1:36:17.240 In the record business were like frowning, frowning upon that. 1:36:17.280 --> 1:36:17.960 You shouldn't do that. 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:21.240 Yeah, you gotta focus on your music. You gotta your artistry. 1:36:21.800 --> 1:36:27.120 But all of that lended to him being superstar. Yeah, 1:36:27.439 --> 1:36:29.360 and we didn't know that then. It's something that they 1:36:29.400 --> 1:36:32.280 grew on us and that as those opportunities came, we 1:36:32.280 --> 1:36:35.400 were smart enough say no, no, give me that. 1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:38.760 But but but I would say, all three of us, 1:36:38.920 --> 1:36:41.599 we're just not gonna let people put us in a box. 1:36:42.520 --> 1:36:44.400 Like I'm never gonna be put in the fucking box. 1:36:44.600 --> 1:36:45.679 You can't put me in a box. 1:36:47.600 --> 1:36:48.000 You can't. 1:36:48.520 --> 1:36:52.120 I'm gonna fight the fucking way. I'm gonna my way out. 1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:55.120 You gotta hear J say, tank, that's too far, that's. 1:36:57.200 --> 1:37:01.680 I mean you. I mean because we all need that too, though, 1:37:01.720 --> 1:37:05.120 But you don't need you know why, because we want 1:37:05.120 --> 1:37:09.080 the reward and you can't get to that reward unless 1:37:09.120 --> 1:37:09.719 you take chance. 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:10.360 Yeah. 1:37:10.560 --> 1:37:14.400 Yeah, high risk, high reward at the end of the day. 1:37:14.439 --> 1:37:16.120 But you gotta tell you gotta have the nigga in 1:37:16.160 --> 1:37:18.439 the car with you that says we got too much dope? 1:37:19.760 --> 1:37:25.160 You too much help? Is that too much dope? 1:37:25.880 --> 1:37:27.479 I cannot confirm, n. 1:37:29.160 --> 1:37:29.439 We can. 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:31.360 How many keys are too many keys? 1:37:31.439 --> 1:37:32.360 I don't think anything. 1:37:33.960 --> 1:37:37.080 I think once you get over a certain amount, the 1:37:37.200 --> 1:37:40.040 charge is still the same car. 1:37:41.880 --> 1:37:46.599 Life is I've got, You're gonna get the same amount 1:37:46.640 --> 1:37:46.880 of time. 1:37:47.000 --> 1:37:50.680 Yeah, your intent is to distribute. 1:37:50.600 --> 1:37:55.519 Yes, let's just take nine once can get to like 1:37:55.560 --> 1:37:57.680 when you go to the think and how much do 1:37:57.800 --> 1:37:58.519 y'all report this? 1:38:02.760 --> 1:38:05.280 Yeah? I can't report, okay, but you. 1:38:05.240 --> 1:38:07.640 Do need that, but sometimes you do need you know, 1:38:07.760 --> 1:38:09.000 we all agree. 1:38:08.760 --> 1:38:12.120 We all need that, right, we all need because the 1:38:12.240 --> 1:38:15.320 voice that we trust, Yeah, right, And I think that 1:38:15.360 --> 1:38:17.840 for us that's been so big for us because we 1:38:17.920 --> 1:38:21.800 both trust each other's voice so much that it starts there. 1:38:22.320 --> 1:38:24.719 It starts with respect. It starts with respect. 1:38:24.840 --> 1:38:25.759 Y'all are great together. 1:38:27.160 --> 1:38:28.160 That was a great guy, man. 1:38:28.479 --> 1:38:31.800 I really great to like this guy. They all look 1:38:31.800 --> 1:38:35.479 great together. Man. I like that man. He's always been 1:38:35.520 --> 1:38:38.080 the game. When I first met him, tank Man, he 1:38:38.240 --> 1:38:42.200 was introduced me to him man our brother, and I 1:38:42.240 --> 1:38:45.200 was like, that's a that niggas that young niggas nice man. 1:38:45.479 --> 1:38:48.639 He got some swag to him, you know what I mean. 1:38:49.400 --> 1:38:51.920 And then when I found out he could really play basketball, 1:38:52.600 --> 1:38:55.120 that's when the app That's when the real respect came out. 1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:57.360 That's normally where it starts. 1:38:57.880 --> 1:39:00.840 A lot of them say that they can play, but they. 1:39:01.120 --> 1:39:03.840 Don't they understand. 1:39:04.520 --> 1:39:08.000 That's a whole other part of basketball. Right, especially as 1:39:08.040 --> 1:39:10.519 we've gotten older, you start to you start to you 1:39:10.560 --> 1:39:12.760 start to have a different love and respect for guys 1:39:12.800 --> 1:39:14.280 who understand basketball. 1:39:14.720 --> 1:39:19.120 It's like, my nigga, if you don't know certain basic things. 1:39:18.840 --> 1:39:24.160 Basic things, you the basic He's fundamental, He's fundamentally make 1:39:24.240 --> 1:39:26.799 the read. 1:39:29.720 --> 1:39:32.320 You know what I'm saying, and it's and listen, it 1:39:32.439 --> 1:39:35.120 is only a few of us then understand it. In 1:39:35.200 --> 1:39:38.960 this business, we played basketball with everyone like this nigga. 1:39:39.360 --> 1:39:42.720 Yes he's athletic, Yes, he can move and get to 1:39:42.760 --> 1:39:44.800 the spot. He I don't know if he can play 1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:48.840 basket right the right way. If he understands the guy 1:39:48.880 --> 1:39:51.200 that's on his team can shoot the ship out the ball. 1:39:51.760 --> 1:39:53.400 This guy needs to have the ball in his hand 1:39:54.280 --> 1:39:55.920 and he needs to have it at this spot. 1:39:57.720 --> 1:39:58.720 This is a different. 1:39:58.439 --> 1:40:01.040 Understanding, totally different. On standard makes the game. 1:40:01.000 --> 1:40:04.160 More fun and it's more fluids. You know, we played 1:40:04.160 --> 1:40:06.320 a lot of basketball, a lot of and a lot 1:40:06.360 --> 1:40:07.000 of random mass. 1:40:07.479 --> 1:40:08.919 I remember the league, man. 1:40:09.479 --> 1:40:13.680 I got what championships and here you go with these 1:40:13.760 --> 1:40:15.519 championship rings in that league. 1:40:15.520 --> 1:40:21.440 Man, that league manage n B A E lee. 1:40:22.120 --> 1:40:23.400 He was doing your thing over there. 1:40:23.760 --> 1:40:26.639 Doing I was doing my boy brought him. 1:40:26.640 --> 1:40:27.720 My retirement. 1:40:28.840 --> 1:40:30.439 Is that I'm back. 1:40:31.360 --> 1:40:33.000 Taket went and played an adult league. 1:40:33.000 --> 1:40:37.120 Man, I don't even do that in the district. 1:40:37.280 --> 1:40:39.400 Listen, I don't even do that. I'll playing the runs 1:40:40.000 --> 1:40:42.479 the private Russ. I'm not going to play no dot. 1:40:45.920 --> 1:40:46.120 Rest. 1:40:47.160 --> 1:40:48.400 I wanted to be with the refs. 1:40:49.400 --> 1:40:50.479 He always liked the rafts. 1:40:50.479 --> 1:40:52.520 I don't want to be where people are reffing themselves 1:40:53.200 --> 1:40:54.440 like himself. 1:40:54.439 --> 1:40:57.479 He hated that man because. 1:40:57.280 --> 1:40:59.200 I'm not gonna call it. But I'm like you don't 1:40:59.280 --> 1:41:03.080 call far. Yeah, you do know what you just did. 1:41:03.120 --> 1:41:06.679 Come on, you gotta call it all right. He don't 1:41:06.720 --> 1:41:08.160 call fucking foul anyway. 1:41:08.640 --> 1:41:12.440 Your Top five R and B. 1:41:13.800 --> 1:41:22.879 Artists Prince shaw Day, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and USU. 1:41:23.360 --> 1:41:27.880 Mm hmmm cold fire, Cold five Quick, too quick, quick 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:32.400 niggas smart quick, on his feet on his tools, m M. 1:41:33.240 --> 1:41:36.600 Top five R and B songs. 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:46.479 Purple Rain, Cherish Today, Uh, isn't she lovely? You remind me? 1:41:48.360 --> 1:41:55.599 And what's the other one? Jodasy song, Jodasy All my. 1:41:55.600 --> 1:42:00.000 Life mm hmmm, All my Life is different? 1:42:00.720 --> 1:42:03.920 Different, hit different? That hit different? When I heard different? 1:42:04.280 --> 1:42:07.559 That real? But that's Kasey and Jojo. It is technically 1:42:13.840 --> 1:42:14.719 because it's tough. 1:42:15.240 --> 1:42:19.519 It's tough to follow Joe Tosy even as Casey and 1:42:19.640 --> 1:42:25.839 Jojo right with something completely different. No, that was completely 1:42:26.120 --> 1:42:33.519 and knock it out the park, super smash. Let's make 1:42:33.520 --> 1:42:38.720 a vultron. You're super R and B artists. We need 1:42:38.760 --> 1:42:42.639 an art every category. You put one artist in the vocal, 1:42:43.200 --> 1:42:47.799 the performance style, the styling and the passion of the artists. 1:42:48.080 --> 1:42:52.760 Choose one vocal in history to make your Super R 1:42:52.800 --> 1:42:55.080 and B artists what one vocal are you getting. 1:42:55.320 --> 1:42:57.360 All Luther hm hmmm. 1:42:58.120 --> 1:43:03.440 Doom doom, doom, doom doom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:05.280 I loved it, loved it. 1:43:05.280 --> 1:43:07.840 It's something about a nigga that can sing so good. 1:43:08.160 --> 1:43:10.320 He don't got to do nothing else but sing. 1:43:12.120 --> 1:43:16.679 Yeah, yeah, like think about that, just sit there saying, 1:43:17.040 --> 1:43:22.559 just stand there, that's it and sing the song and 1:43:22.600 --> 1:43:23.680 we are amazed. 1:43:24.360 --> 1:43:25.480 Did you see this documentary? 1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:33.040 That's how you know you can sing on a level 1:43:33.080 --> 1:43:36.360 that is godly. Shout out to Fox for that too. 1:43:36.560 --> 1:43:40.360 You know Fox is a producer on that document know that. Okay. 1:43:40.760 --> 1:43:41.160 Yeah. 1:43:42.000 --> 1:43:47.559 Performance style, m J. I gotta go with roll with 1:43:47.560 --> 1:43:50.400 that Luther voice. 1:43:50.840 --> 1:43:51.040 M J. 1:43:51.280 --> 1:43:56.000 Performance definitely has one of us is gonna die at this. 1:43:56.320 --> 1:43:59.920 You don't faint. Folks can go in the cardiac a 1:44:00.080 --> 1:44:01.960 rest at that show. 1:44:02.120 --> 1:44:02.360 Yeah. 1:44:03.000 --> 1:44:06.599 Yeah. The styling of the artists. I gotta say, Marvin style. 1:44:07.160 --> 1:44:10.719 I knew you were going to say that. I knew 1:44:10.760 --> 1:44:11.680 you were going to say that. 1:44:11.720 --> 1:44:18.920 I got to say his style, his style, superfly, he 1:44:19.080 --> 1:44:21.639 was he was just yeah, just on him. 1:44:21.760 --> 1:44:26.920 Yeah, his thoughts. I loved his thoughts. Yeah, uh hm. 1:44:27.840 --> 1:44:30.880 The passion of the artists, the passion of the artists 1:44:30.880 --> 1:44:31.400 who mean it. 1:44:31.720 --> 1:44:36.760 You know who I really really like I love I 1:44:36.840 --> 1:44:41.080 love I love her, I love her love but her 1:44:41.240 --> 1:44:42.479 just her like her passion. 1:44:42.840 --> 1:44:45.559 It was just her passion exudes in her aura. 1:44:46.000 --> 1:44:50.439 Yeah, absolutely, that's what that's her aura. Yeah, like she 1:44:50.640 --> 1:44:53.920 was diverish, but not like super diverish. 1:44:54.320 --> 1:44:55.040 Yeah she did. 1:44:55.320 --> 1:44:58.040 She had to. She didn't have to be I didn't 1:44:58.040 --> 1:44:59.519 feel mean yes, I feel me. 1:44:59.600 --> 1:45:00.599 She didn't have to say it. 1:45:00.680 --> 1:45:02.120 Yeah, she didn't have to say it. 1:45:02.320 --> 1:45:05.080 That's for a lot of people. It stated yes, she. 1:45:05.040 --> 1:45:05.960 Didn't have to say it. 1:45:06.080 --> 1:45:08.240 You just she walked in. 1:45:08.600 --> 1:45:13.439 You knew, Yes, who's in the motherfucking building. Roll out 1:45:13.479 --> 1:45:17.280 that motherfucking red carpet? Put it on white gloves? Yes, 1:45:17.680 --> 1:45:19.040 and act and act like you. 1:45:18.960 --> 1:45:22.000 Know, yes, I loved her. I loved her her? 1:45:22.240 --> 1:45:27.719 Or who would manage your artist? Hm? Who would manage 1:45:27.720 --> 1:45:28.160 this artist? 1:45:31.720 --> 1:45:32.599 Are you talking about? 1:45:38.479 --> 1:45:39.320 Who asked what that for? 1:45:39.840 --> 1:45:41.799 That would be some something? Because I say no to everybody. 1:45:43.360 --> 1:45:44.280 You wouldn't say no to that. 1:45:44.520 --> 1:45:44.960 I wouldn't. 1:45:47.000 --> 1:45:52.759 Let's go get this, spin them around, get these white gloves, 1:45:53.080 --> 1:45:54.519 keep it, keep it the moving high. 1:45:55.400 --> 1:45:57.200 You know, we we had this very important part of 1:45:57.240 --> 1:46:00.840 the show. Now we tell us a story funny or 1:46:00.880 --> 1:46:05.360 fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? The only rude 1:46:05.360 --> 1:46:07.720 to the game, which is easy for you, you know, 1:46:07.800 --> 1:46:09.720 we know what you come from. Is you can't say 1:46:09.800 --> 1:46:11.320 no that you got. 1:46:12.840 --> 1:46:13.160 Videos. 1:46:15.160 --> 1:46:19.880 I forgot the name. We were in d C. As 1:46:19.960 --> 1:46:24.920 artist I was working with had a show and her 1:46:26.160 --> 1:46:33.679 DJ kept messing with me and kept, you know, trying 1:46:33.720 --> 1:46:41.960 to antagonize me. So I beat up the DJ. But 1:46:42.120 --> 1:46:45.040 you can't, you can't, Okay, Yeah, I beat up her 1:46:45.120 --> 1:46:50.000 DJ and the dancers and all the thing was in 1:46:50.080 --> 1:46:53.160 there screaming, get up off of them, please leave them alone. 1:46:56.040 --> 1:47:01.160 Then once the artists found out, she was like, why 1:47:01.200 --> 1:47:05.599 did you do that at my show? And I was like, listen, 1:47:05.960 --> 1:47:09.560 your man tested me, and I had to. I had to. 1:47:09.680 --> 1:47:11.640 I had to show him what it was about. We 1:47:11.840 --> 1:47:13.280 was in d C too. I was like, yeah, I 1:47:13.360 --> 1:47:15.920 really really wanted them to know. And you and my 1:47:16.000 --> 1:47:18.600 home city, I'm gonna I'm gonna show you something. And 1:47:18.680 --> 1:47:21.519 I beat up the DJ on show on show night 1:47:21.840 --> 1:47:24.719 before the show, right before the show. Was he able 1:47:24.760 --> 1:47:30.320 to DJ the show dj DJ? But he didn't. He didn't. 1:47:30.439 --> 1:47:32.160 He didn't say nothing else to me for the rest 1:47:32.200 --> 1:47:32.599 of the tour. 1:47:33.439 --> 1:47:36.839 Oh he stayed on tour. Yeah, he stayed because you professional. 1:47:37.040 --> 1:47:38.080 It wasn't like, yeah, I want. 1:47:41.439 --> 1:47:42.200 We had to let him know. 1:47:42.280 --> 1:47:43.880 We gotta get this little dust uff going. 1:47:44.040 --> 1:47:45.800 Yes, I just had to. I just had to dust 1:47:45.880 --> 1:47:46.400 them up a little. 1:47:47.840 --> 1:47:52.040 It's called a friendly fade. Niggas have to get back 1:47:52.160 --> 1:47:52.400 to the. 1:47:52.880 --> 1:47:57.479 Friendly I mean. And you know, Jay, I, me and 1:47:57.560 --> 1:47:59.840 you were kind of like, we don't, we don't, we don't. 1:48:00.240 --> 1:48:02.479 You know what I'm saying, Like, I like, it takes 1:48:02.520 --> 1:48:04.720 a lot to really push me over there. But once 1:48:04.760 --> 1:48:07.559 you do that, there's no no, there's no turn. 1:48:07.439 --> 1:48:10.920 Off here because we didn't get into this to still 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:13.599 be doing that, right. And I think that's the thing 1:48:13.800 --> 1:48:16.360 that a lot of cats don't understand. They try to 1:48:16.439 --> 1:48:18.800 take it from Oh I was such and such in 1:48:18.800 --> 1:48:21.040 the streets and i'mp and now I'm going to be 1:48:21.240 --> 1:48:23.960 this in the music business too, Like, so why did 1:48:24.000 --> 1:48:24.479 you get into this? 1:48:24.640 --> 1:48:24.800 Then? 1:48:25.160 --> 1:48:27.840 You know what I'm saying, Like, now, if somebody pushes 1:48:27.880 --> 1:48:29.960 you to a point, we're all men, We're gonna protect 1:48:30.000 --> 1:48:31.400 ourselves and we got to handle our business. 1:48:31.439 --> 1:48:32.760 And that that is what it is, right. 1:48:33.600 --> 1:48:37.200 That's the part I never understood about where it becomes 1:48:37.240 --> 1:48:40.360 the bullying. And that's what I'm going to be in 1:48:40.479 --> 1:48:43.680 this space, right because could have left that ship over there. 1:48:43.920 --> 1:48:44.920 Yeah you know what I mean. 1:48:44.920 --> 1:48:48.000 And that's why you've blasted so long in this space 1:48:48.080 --> 1:48:50.120 because you understand, like, Okay, it's some. 1:48:50.240 --> 1:48:52.439 Things I'm going to have to handle, but I'm not 1:48:52.560 --> 1:48:53.479 running around being. 1:48:53.400 --> 1:48:56.200 Up there right. No, does it make sense? 1:48:56.600 --> 1:48:59.920 Yeah? Not even wearing who I was on my show. 1:49:00.080 --> 1:49:02.479 Your it's not good. It's not good for business. 1:49:04.160 --> 1:49:08.240 But that one, I like, let's just it was let's 1:49:08.280 --> 1:49:11.200 just get it on. Just yeah, and after we're done, cool? 1:49:11.240 --> 1:49:11.679 Were you good? 1:49:11.760 --> 1:49:14.840 You thought you thought something was different and you found 1:49:14.880 --> 1:49:18.000 out something wasn't you thought it was sweet on this 1:49:18.160 --> 1:49:18.920 side of the street. 1:49:19.360 --> 1:49:24.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had to be saying something outland ship. 1:49:26.000 --> 1:49:30.680 He called me a bitch as no way, that's no 1:49:31.320 --> 1:49:35.200 way that he pulled that one out. 1:49:35.320 --> 1:49:39.880 What did you Doank? 1:49:40.560 --> 1:49:42.760 I just lost it man. Like I said, Bro, I'm 1:49:42.920 --> 1:49:46.920 very calm, and but once you get me on that side, 1:49:47.160 --> 1:49:48.040 if there's no turn. 1:49:49.040 --> 1:49:56.680 I've I've never imagined on this side somebody calling you that. 1:49:57.040 --> 1:49:57.639 I could never. 1:49:57.880 --> 1:50:00.320 I couldn't either, I've never That's the first time I've 1:50:00.360 --> 1:50:02.880 ever been called that. So that's why it just took 1:50:02.920 --> 1:50:06.040 me to the other side. I blacked I blacked out. Really, 1:50:07.200 --> 1:50:11.640 I was like, a DJ nigga call you that in 1:50:11.840 --> 1:50:15.880 front of Oh, come on, I could I wouldn't even 1:50:15.960 --> 1:50:18.320 know how to I couldn't even know how to live 1:50:18.400 --> 1:50:22.680 without living, leaving living, leaving there knowing that I let 1:50:22.840 --> 1:50:26.559 somebody that, Like, that's the whole that's total disrespect from everybody. 1:50:27.960 --> 1:50:30.920 Everybody's gonna disrespect you. Let the DJ call you that. 1:50:32.600 --> 1:50:37.519 Never So I beat them up pretty bad in front 1:50:37.560 --> 1:50:41.800 of him, the dancers and all of that, and that 1:50:42.000 --> 1:50:44.080 was it. You ever had a friendly frame. 1:50:45.560 --> 1:50:48.240 A bunch of friendly face. At a certain age, people 1:50:48.320 --> 1:50:49.200 just stop wanting to fight me. 1:50:50.479 --> 1:50:52.960 You you did. 1:50:54.880 --> 1:50:59.799 With It always starts with Bob, always started it somehow. 1:50:59.840 --> 1:51:01.160 I oh, you. 1:51:03.360 --> 1:51:07.760 Mean like we don't Yeah, yeah, but you know, and I. 1:51:07.760 --> 1:51:09.679 Always got to hear about nigga. You don't hear about 1:51:09.720 --> 1:51:15.400 Bob and Jack. It's always convenient that I'm never there. 1:51:16.760 --> 1:51:18.839 It's always when I'm never there, because. 1:51:19.200 --> 1:51:21.559 Then you know, niggas play hoop together again. 1:51:21.640 --> 1:51:24.679 It's funny because you've probably been around somebody that happened 1:51:24.720 --> 1:51:27.320 with But like you said, it's that was a moment. 1:51:28.520 --> 1:51:30.439 I never speak on that. We never gonna talk about that, 1:51:30.600 --> 1:51:33.280 like that ship that happened this dude. 1:51:34.040 --> 1:51:35.280 Yeah, let me tell you something. 1:51:35.320 --> 1:51:36.320 I right know where this story goes. 1:51:36.439 --> 1:51:36.920 No you don't know what. 1:51:38.160 --> 1:51:41.599 No, you don't know where this one's going. He got 1:51:41.760 --> 1:51:44.960 somebody to give somebody a friendly faith. 1:51:45.360 --> 1:51:46.080 I know that story. 1:51:46.120 --> 1:51:48.600 See at the gym, I know that story. That was 1:51:48.720 --> 1:51:51.479 beyond vicious man, and it was all because of him. 1:51:51.720 --> 1:51:55.639 You know he was not because it was on that though. 1:51:55.760 --> 1:51:57.599 I take the blame. You take the blame because that's 1:51:57.640 --> 1:51:58.080 my friend. 1:51:58.920 --> 1:52:01.960 Yeah, but you're gonna let him I'm not the blank 1:52:02.400 --> 1:52:03.240 you with that ball. 1:52:03.600 --> 1:52:07.880 It's it's the equivalent. So you letting the DJ call you? 1:52:11.600 --> 1:52:14.120 Yo, you're gonna let that dude you with that ball? 1:52:14.880 --> 1:52:18.600 Oh man, it was I didn't even say that. 1:52:19.600 --> 1:52:20.760 I don't even know what you said. 1:52:21.240 --> 1:52:24.240 I looked at it. Knock him though. 1:52:31.760 --> 1:52:33.320 You know the story story. 1:52:35.000 --> 1:52:37.320 I told the story by the people that were there, 1:52:37.320 --> 1:52:38.240 everyone that was there. 1:52:38.160 --> 1:52:40.680 So you might hear that story when yeah, your next 1:52:40.800 --> 1:52:44.360 knock him the fuck up. I remember that like it 1:52:44.479 --> 1:52:46.280 was yesterday, man, that niggas threw. 1:52:46.160 --> 1:52:52.640 The ball and it wasn't so much it wasn't. It 1:52:52.840 --> 1:52:58.600 was the way he looked at me. Oh, Jay, is 1:52:58.680 --> 1:53:01.720 the way Jason looked at me. Me, He looked at 1:53:01.800 --> 1:53:04.679 me it had it happened? He looked at me, said, 1:53:06.439 --> 1:53:13.960 and I said, it was almost like he wanted to 1:53:14.160 --> 1:53:19.920 let it slide. And he was looking to me to 1:53:20.040 --> 1:53:22.440 see if it was okay, okay. 1:53:24.360 --> 1:53:29.840 To not let it slide. And I said, not today, brother, 1:53:31.240 --> 1:53:31.840 fuck him up. 1:53:32.560 --> 1:53:36.720 You know that costs him a lot of money, Dude, 1:53:39.040 --> 1:53:41.519 a lot of money. Sue the hell out of her. 1:53:42.640 --> 1:53:45.759 That's not a friendly. That's not a friendly. That's not friendly. 1:53:45.920 --> 1:53:48.320 That wasn't really they didn't know each other. It wasn't 1:53:48.360 --> 1:53:49.560 cool like that friendly. 1:53:49.360 --> 1:53:51.879 Face is like, hey man, we got a mutual respect. 1:53:51.960 --> 1:53:53.640 We don't really want to hurt each other like that, 1:53:53.760 --> 1:53:57.040 but you know, let's go. Let's go take care. Then 1:53:57.280 --> 1:54:06.120 don't hit people in the face with basketballs on purpose. 1:54:07.120 --> 1:54:07.560 I don't do. 1:54:08.960 --> 1:54:16.679 And then sue. Wow mm hmmm. H For another part, brother, 1:54:17.240 --> 1:54:26.120 Terry Ross, Terry, like you are a brother and a friend. 1:54:27.720 --> 1:54:28.479 You are a. 1:54:30.520 --> 1:54:34.320 A name, You are an entity. You are an important 1:54:34.400 --> 1:54:37.800 piece to this whole university. 1:54:37.840 --> 1:54:41.800 We are all a part of a great father, great father, 1:54:42.200 --> 1:54:47.080 great father of that because that has to be spoken about, right, 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:48.840 especially in what we do. 1:54:50.280 --> 1:54:54.120 This this this thing we do takes so much of 1:54:54.240 --> 1:54:56.200 our minds, of our time. 1:54:57.160 --> 1:55:00.400 So to say to yourself, I'm going to still be 1:55:00.680 --> 1:55:04.360 active and still like we've been in the gym together 1:55:04.480 --> 1:55:08.960 with our son, been at graduations, been at like I 1:55:09.120 --> 1:55:12.720 know about you going across the border to get your son. 1:55:13.400 --> 1:55:15.720 Have to go see it like these are things that 1:55:16.680 --> 1:55:20.120 a lot of people don't do for whatever reason. But 1:55:20.760 --> 1:55:23.800 for the guys that do, we always like to give 1:55:23.920 --> 1:55:25.640 them their flowers for being that. 1:55:25.800 --> 1:55:28.480 I appreciate that. I appreciate that, you know what I mean. 1:55:28.840 --> 1:55:32.440 That's a that's a real thing, and that is going 1:55:32.560 --> 1:55:35.720 to last us longer than this ship is, you know 1:55:35.760 --> 1:55:38.240 what I mean. Would our kids become how they feel 1:55:38.240 --> 1:55:40.480 about us, how they you know, appreciate us, man, so 1:55:40.600 --> 1:55:42.880 and you know all your kids, man, you do so 1:55:44.320 --> 1:55:46.040 I gotta I gotta make sure I give you that, 1:55:47.000 --> 1:55:51.000 make sure that father the father, yea fathers. 1:55:52.320 --> 1:55:52.680 Important. 1:55:53.080 --> 1:55:55.840 Absolutely Well. We thank you, brother, We thank you for 1:55:55.960 --> 1:55:56.280 your time. 1:55:56.360 --> 1:56:00.360 Man. We appreciate you. I love what you got, the 1:56:00.440 --> 1:56:03.800 utmost respect for both of y'all. And this is I 1:56:04.120 --> 1:56:04.480 just love it. 1:56:04.640 --> 1:56:06.560 I love I love it and we'll see you this 1:56:06.640 --> 1:56:09.320 summer kind again. Understand what I'm saying. 1:56:09.880 --> 1:56:13.600 Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, Money is Tank and this is 1:56:13.640 --> 1:56:17.000 the R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all 1:56:17.200 --> 1:56:18.760 things R and B. 1:56:20.680 --> 1:56:22.560 I can't say enough about this brother man. 1:56:22.680 --> 1:56:26.120 He is who he is, and anytime you hear that name, 1:56:27.520 --> 1:56:31.120 respect it and appreciate it our brother Terry T. R. 1:56:31.200 --> 1:56:35.240 Ross. Yeah, appreciate it by 1:56:36.800 --> 1:56:37.000 Yeah