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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentleman Mon him his tank Valentine and this

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Speaker 4: on Days al, I'm in the motherfucking building.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking family m Burn.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I'm talking day one, dear o'donal, I go

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Speaker 4: to place.

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Speaker 1: Baby when I already read it. Let's go, Tank, I

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Speaker 1: talk about it.

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Speaker 4: May who saw my doughs and my gish fron.

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Speaker 3: Of me game and so I love that guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: real executive.

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Speaker 5: I put money in that guy's broken. Yes, I take

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Speaker 5: this guy. Freach Man Pratis since the new time day. Yes,

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Speaker 5: man preaching, Mandy.

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Speaker 1: Man. Yes, let's go man, let's go. Man, don't know,

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Speaker 1: they don't know. They don't have nigga trenches, trenches.

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Speaker 4: Nig like like y'all what y'all had when I when

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Speaker 4: I first met you at noon time, it wasn't a trench,

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Speaker 4: but it was trench mentality, trench mentality one hundred. It

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Speaker 4: was sun up, sundown, getting here.

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Speaker 3: And get to it. Made the best man win.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 3: I walked in there like that's how you get cracking. Oh,

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Speaker 3: these niggas is monstros That's.

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Speaker 1: How that's how we that's how we made it happen.

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Speaker 1: That's how that's what we did.

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Speaker 3: Teddy, Bishop.

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Speaker 4: Jazzy Faye, Brian Michael Brian Michael Cox, Jada Dent, Donnie Skants,

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Speaker 4: that was it, John Tea Austin, Yes, the Twins, Yeah, Jagged, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: nigga only they're like, what the fuck is going every room?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell y'all some ship real quick.

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Speaker 1: And I was at a party. I was at Sal's

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Speaker 1: house the weekend, the weekends manager, and Mike Karen walks

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Speaker 1: over to me and he says, I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: something I never told anybody. He was like, I patterned

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Speaker 1: my whole company afternoon time, he said, when I came

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Speaker 1: down to Atlanta and saw what y'all had, and how

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Speaker 1: y'all had those producers in each room, and them niggas

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Speaker 1: was always competing against each other because they leave their

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Speaker 1: doors open. So if Jazzy's in there making the beat,

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Speaker 1: Teddy hit at me like, oh ship, nigg I gotta

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Speaker 1: make it. I gotta make a fire beating Jade up here.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's how, that's how

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Speaker 1: the competitive spirit with between all of them made them

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Speaker 1: all competing against each other and they knew people we

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Speaker 1: I mean dude, you gotta understand not want every artist

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Speaker 1: R and B artists came through, came to noontime, absolutely

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Speaker 1: came through time. You had to come through that. You

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Speaker 1: had to come through there, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So that was it, man, it was And and you

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Speaker 1: came through there, you saw it. Mike came through there,

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Speaker 1: he saw it, and it was just like yo. And

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Speaker 1: the good thing about us was we weren't never wanted

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Speaker 1: we were always in the back and we were doing

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Speaker 1: the business part aspect of it. So a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: So we just handled the business and that was it.

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Speaker 1: And they appreciated it because we weren't trying to take

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that was it. That's

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Speaker 1: why it weren't for how however long it worked. That's

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Speaker 3: It was good competition too.

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Speaker 1: Competition.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like a hateful competition.

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Speaker 6: What was the setup of now time as far as

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Speaker 3: Who were the people? I mean, you know for people

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Speaker 3: who So.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you the backstory on that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: born and raised in DC. My partners Chris and Ryan,

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Speaker 1: they from Oakland, right, so they came down. They were

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Speaker 1: going to school at Howard HM from from Oakland, so

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Speaker 1: this is a crazy story. So the reason how we

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Speaker 1: really hooked up was because Chris has some cousins out

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Speaker 1: here that was heavy in the game, like deep deep

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Speaker 1: in the game, and we can uh, my mom lived

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Speaker 1: in Oakland. My mom lived in Oakland, Nolan Parks Ship

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah gas station, yeah right there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I used to come out to Oakland all the time.

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Speaker 3: But you didn't know them at this point. No.

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Speaker 1: I knew Chris. I knew I knew Chris. My mom

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Speaker 1: and Chris's mom were like friends. So I've known Chris

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Speaker 1: and it's it's crazy. My mom was like, you need

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Speaker 1: to meet Chris's cousins, his cousins, and in LA I

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Speaker 1: was like okay, So I met I hadn't seen Christ

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Speaker 1: in years, went up to his high school, said Chris,

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Speaker 1: I need to meet your cousins in Oakland. Man. Somebody

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Speaker 1: told me I need to meet them. So I went

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Speaker 1: to went to go meet them, went to go talk

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Speaker 1: to Chris and in the school and they was like, well,

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Speaker 1: take care of Chris when he comes up to d

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Speaker 1: c embrace him, put him, put him under your wing.

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Speaker 1: I was like, no problem. So Chris came, Ryan was

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Speaker 1: Ryan King came up there. So we started this this company,

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Speaker 1: a booking agency. So during that time too short, Luke juvenile,

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Speaker 1: not but he was juvenile, but the trick daddy. So

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Speaker 1: we used to book shows at the College at Howard

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Speaker 1: this company. It was called Ivory Coast. It was me

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Speaker 1: then Cassine went to Howard. It was like, yo, you

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Speaker 1: guys need to come down to Cassin reed. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: went to Howard. He was like, you guys need to

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Speaker 1: come down to this thing in Atlanta. Called Freaknick. It

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Speaker 1: was like Freaknick. Fuck is that? What is that? So

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Speaker 1: so we said, all right, So we did this show

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Speaker 1: had the big This was actually the biggest show in

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Speaker 1: the history of Freak Nick. We had too short Luke

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Speaker 1: outcasts before our casts even came out. Uh, what's the

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Speaker 1: other groups? It was a bunch of groups. I have

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Speaker 1: the flyer, show it to you. But we did this

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Speaker 1: show and we made we made. We made a good

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Speaker 1: amount of money. Right. So Nooney was already in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: because he grew up in Oakland too. You know, he

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Speaker 1: grew up in Oakland too. He was already in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: trying to do some music things. So when we got

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta, I'm like, Yo, this ship is sexy. Like

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Speaker 1: you you black, you can move around to police, don't

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Speaker 1: pull you over. I'm like this, saint, how we function

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Speaker 1: in DC? Like nigga, you got a nice car, nigga.

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Speaker 1: That said, So we moved down. We moved down to

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and we're here. Yeah. See, but when we came

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Speaker 1: heavy Like niggas an' sayd how heavy. I wasn't any

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Speaker 1: game like it. Yes, So when we moved to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: we already had. When I moved to Atlanta, let me

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Speaker 1: tell you, I had a brand new the eight fifties

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Speaker 1: before anybody had. I had a Black One. I had

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Speaker 1: a three hundred z X Turbo. I had a McLaren. Listen,

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Speaker 1: SEC four hundred. Remember the joints, the convertible joints, the

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Speaker 1: of that. You shipped all that to Atlanta. Ship all

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Speaker 1: of that to Atlanta, right, Chris had the range rover

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Speaker 1: when we get down there, niggas was like, who is niggas?

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Speaker 1: These niggas ain't playing no ball, they ain't they ain't

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Speaker 1: no artists, Like, who is these niggas like? So that

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Speaker 1: because we weren't. We weren't we weren't. We weren't in

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Speaker 1: had a group called Absolutely. I don't even remember, y'all remember.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me, don't don't do that, don't act like that.

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Speaker 1: We had a group called Absolute, so we remember Absolute.

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Speaker 1: That was our first group we had. So we were

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Speaker 1: trying to shop Absolute. We were shopping them to the

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Speaker 1: labels and Puff Puff. Kevin Wells, my Man Wells took

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Speaker 1: us to Puff and we he Puff loved the group.

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Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I want to sign him, blah

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Speaker 1: we don't want, we want. We're trying to be were

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Speaker 1: trying to be our own back. Yah, fucking what you come.

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Speaker 1: So we took them. We did it. We had another

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Speaker 1: deal on the table with with le or Death Jam,

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Speaker 1: so he was like, we're gonna go to death. Tina Davis, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah girl. She signed and she was like I love

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Speaker 1: this group. Let's signed the group. So we said, all right,

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Speaker 1: Death Jam. But Puff kind of got he was a

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Speaker 1: little salty about it because we didn't bring the group

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Speaker 1: over him. So he was like, yo, who the fuck

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Speaker 1: is who produced the records? Like who are the producers

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Speaker 1: on the records? And we was like it was at

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Speaker 1: that time it was just Jade up and Death had

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Speaker 1: produced the records on Absolute and Teddy too. So he

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Speaker 1: was like, man, let me, let me, let me sign

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Speaker 1: and then let me sign the producers. We was like,

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Speaker 1: all right. So what we did was we said, listen,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna let him sign the producers, but every time

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Speaker 1: it has to say read produced by Bad Boy Slash Noontime, right.

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Speaker 3: Because at this point, Nooney is part of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we came together. Yeah, we came together. We

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Speaker 1: all came together. We knew he he originally had the

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Speaker 1: name Noontime.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was just getting money off of one record.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean, he's a physical so him

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Speaker 1: Nestles they all came in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we had the we owned the publishing Okay, well

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we got over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah okay, and.

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Speaker 1: We managed them as producers. So the same thing with

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Speaker 3: I was there when y'all did that, and.

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Speaker 1: You know how that developed was because somehow, I don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to go over there with him and

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Speaker 3: So they used to be over there working of course

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and it will be it would be be

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Speaker 4: going over to j D's and I was like, Jermaine

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Speaker 4: Donnie's CAAs, let's go. And I was like, cool, let's go.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to say specifically that he

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Speaker 3: That's probably, know what I'm saying. Yes, And I was like,

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Speaker 4: He said, yeah, you know, JD DJ, I got to

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, all right, niggas, don't go with that record.

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Speaker 4: And then Jacket is like, yeah, nigga we hoop. I

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Speaker 3: Right down the hallway. I was like, down the hallway.

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Speaker 3: It was niggas so crazy. You know, when we bring

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Tank been dunking for you.

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Speaker 3: Like the fifth grade nigga was flying.

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Speaker 6: Know, the nigga will dunk off Burt nah, I ain't

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Speaker 3: So that all was pivotal, yeah for me, all of that, and.

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Speaker 1: Pivotal for us too, because that's how LaToya came in

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Speaker 4: I got so many questions, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: Because there comes a point where for us outside looking

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Speaker 1: Your good And that's what that's that's what we were,

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And and then there comes a point in time where

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: And what is.

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Speaker 4: If if not too much too much into it, how

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Speaker 4: does how does that happen?

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Speaker 1: Because you know the downfall of black men. Ro it's

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Speaker 1: we don't share resources.

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Speaker 3: Mhm.

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Speaker 1: So it was egos. It was egos. It was it

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Speaker 4: It became like the it became a model. It was

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Speaker 1: Had producers at one studio this studio, that studio, that studio,

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Speaker 3: Four or five rooms, so continuously.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We built the rooms specifically

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Speaker 4: It's because I watched you all individually. I watched the

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Speaker 4: accomplished individually, and I'm thinking about all of that being

435
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: under one run Jesus.

436
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: And it's not like the amount of executives that we

437
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: that we that we put out, like Jaha used to

438
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: work for us, Secure used to work April used to

439
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: work for us. Wow, Seante Page used to work for us.

440
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? All came through noon time. Yeah,

441
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: they all came through.

442
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 3: How long did you guys have the company?

443
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 1: We started two thousand now, nineteen ninety probably ninety seven,

444
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: because we moved ninety seven to about I would say

445
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven late about ten years, yeah, about

446
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: ten And then Nooney and Jazzy started showing up, which

447
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: was yeah, which was Sierra and yeah Sierra. What was

448
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: the other group they had Cherish?

449
00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Cherishes with the sisters tw Yeah they were

450
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 6: yeah yeah wait so because that was what I was

451
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 6: going to ask you about noontime.

452
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: So you have all these producers Polo was a part

453
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: of about to say, yeah, Polo absolute.

454
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: Same as him, nobody really respect Yes, he was in

455
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: a group.

456
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 3: Called Jim's in Jim Crow. He was in Jim Crow.

457
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 6: We got to deal with Jimmy Ivan and and DJ

458
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 6: and that was a noon time DJ.

459
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: Yes, DJ was just coming out of he was in

460
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: college in Boston College. He was in Boston College. We

461
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: met up there with Jimmy. DJ brought us to meet

462
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: with Jimmy to sign jim Crow right, and Jimmy was like, Yo,

463
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: hey guys, I love this group. This group is fantastic.

464
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: We're going to sign them, but I want you to

465
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: listen to something. Can you please take a listen to

466
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: something and tell me what you think.

467
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 3: Always want you to listen, Always want you to.

468
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: Said, he said, take a listen to something. Hi, my

469
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: name is. Hi, my name is. He was like, guys,

470
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: what do you think about this guy?

471
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: Like who is that?

472
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: He was like, this kid was about to sign eminem

473
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I mean the record was it was.

474
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: It was a record. You can hear that from the beginning.

475
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: As soon as you heard that record, you know.

476
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: What that was.

477
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, so he signed, So he signed the group.

478
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: Polo was a part of that group. But Polo was like,

479
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: you like, nobody like he used to produce, but nobody

480
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: we wouldn't take him seriously, you know what I mean?

481
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: But Polo was a really fucking dope producer, saying super.

482
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 6: Dumb, because that's what I was going to ask as

483
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 6: far as like the transition of having.

484
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: All these producers, when did the artist come?

485
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, because obviously that is that

486
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 6: is the pivot, right that you have the you got

487
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 6: the music, you got.

488
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: The people don't know this, but we was. We signed

489
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: to Shanty when she was sixteen.

490
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: Ship.

491
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: Yes, Ashanti was signing the noon time. Yes, Kendall Mintor,

492
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: you remember Kendall Mentor, the attorney Kendall Mentor was introduced

493
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: us to her. We signed her, did a bunch of

494
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: crazy that. Yeah, we did a bunch of crazy records

495
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: on her, and then we got we got our first deal.

496
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: We got our first deal with Sony uh Ron uh Ron,

497
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: what's his name, Dave Sweeney? You know remember day day

498
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Sweeney was over there? Ron what was that? No, not

499
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: Ron Gillyard attorney, He was an attorney, but he ran Sony.

500
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we shined Ashanti and we did all

501
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: of these like huge, big record I mean, like really

502
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: dope records, and we went over to Sony and Dave

503
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: McPherson was like, I don't know about her. We was

504
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: like really, so when I tell you this other name,

505
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, damn, I forgot about that, remember.

506
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Of course, So we had a female rapper, right, so

507
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: they was like, we like her, y'all need to put

508
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: all your money behind her. Let's put let's put the

509
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: bag behind her. And that's what they did. They we

510
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: had trick Daddy, we had Juvenile, we had jar Rule.

511
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: Went to go pay jay Z five hundred thousand dollars cash,

512
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: we'll get on her record. Yes, yes, on cha's record

513
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: cash cash you no, No, I don't know what happened.

514
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: He was going to do it. He wanted to do it.

515
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you he wanted to do it. But

516
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: when I tell you, she had absolutely everybody who was

517
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: hot at that time on her record. And Sony was like, yo,

518
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: this is the artist. We want to get behind it.

519
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: We we you know, we knew in the game. We

520
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: just this is our first role. Were just like, fuck it, man,

521
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: y'all gonna put the money behind her. So what happened

522
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: was Ashanti we still had her sign and you know

523
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: how you know how artists you feel like you're not

524
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: paying attention to yes man, and let me out yes, yes, yes,

525
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: so and I remember this like like like yesterday. So

526
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: the straw with the shanty was she had got into

527
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: a car accident right down in Atlanta, and they were

528
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: her and her mom were calling the guys down in

529
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta about about you know, trying to get her help

530
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: or helping her out or whatever, trying to you know

531
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I guess they didn't nobody return

532
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: the calls of you know, talk to the mom or whatever.

533
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: So they called I was out here and now like

534
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: I had already like relocated out here. They called me

535
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: and they were like, Terry, Ashanti's just got into an accident.

536
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: She's crying, she's upset. You guys, you guys are not

537
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: You're not You're not doing right by her. We want

538
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: to get out of the contract. So talk to the guys.

539
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: We had a meeting about it. Talk to the guys.

540
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: We had a meeting and we were just like, yo,

541
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: we're just going We just hated to let her go,

542
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: and we let her go and her picked her up history,

543
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: but we had her signed to sixteen.

544
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: Absolute absolutely crow Ashanti. Yeah, Sierra, Sierra.

545
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 6: Oh, he got another guy, he got another like hiding Jim.

546
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: I got that.

547
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: That didn't turn out to be an artist. Who tell

548
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: us about the groups you signed? Oh they got they

549
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: got a certain famous, super famous actor in it.

550
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Oh so so the first group. So the first group

551
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: I signed. This is a crazy story too. The first

552
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: group I signed was this group group called Quatro Quatro.

553
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: Everybody out of DC group qua Quatro. I didn't know

554
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: anything about music, dang. I just know growing up I

555
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: love music. My grandmother used to play the records and

556
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: I just to listen to him. I just love R

557
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: and B. So I just I always wanted to be so,

558
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, doing the street shit I was doing. I

559
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want to be an entrepreneur. I

560
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: don't want to be. I don't want to be. You

561
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: can't do wrong, fab, It's not gonna happen. So you

562
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: told you this, old you to have king Pin dreams.

563
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: No doing this to get to something.

564
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing this to get to something because the old

565
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: man told me. One time I sat down with him,

566
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: so dude, hustling dude. He was like, yo, bro, let

567
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: me tell you something. You ever heard the law of averages?

568
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, what is that? He was like,

569
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: a lot of averages. Mean, at some point, at some time,

570
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: something's going to catch up to you. It's called a

571
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: lot of averages. Can you do something enough, it's going

572
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: to catch it. And he said, you can't. You can't.

573
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: You have to have a mentality. You have a hustle's mentality,

574
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: but you got to channel that in another in another way.

575
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: So that's what I was doing. So that's how we

576
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: started the music. And then you know, once the new

577
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: music executive, the new drug dealer was the new music.

578
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: The new music exactly became the new that was a

579
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: sexy You was sexy if you was you had the music.

580
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: He was doing music. So that's what that's what I did.

581
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: So I had this. I started. I was like, y'all,

582
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: I want to do something. Man let me put so

583
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: schante page. I never knew. I didn't anything about studio,

584
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: never been to a studio, never been anywhere. She's like,

585
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: I got this group. She's like, Terry. She called me

586
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: one day and was like, YO, you got all this money.

587
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: What are you doing with it? And I was like,

588
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Shante. She was like, she's like, why

589
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: don't you help me manage this group? Why don't you

590
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: pay for some of this stuff and help me manage

591
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: this group. I was like, all right, so we go manager.

592
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: I started managing the group with her, started, you know,

593
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: buying records, sold my first record, first time I ever

594
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: went to a studio. Ever. I go into the studio,

595
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: chante WeGo. I'm like, damn this shit sixty like this

596
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: is this is a vibe right now, this is a

597
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: hell of a vibe studio music. And we go get

598
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: a beat from this producer. Two hundred and fifty dollars

599
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: for the beat. Guess who the producer was, Checkie Thompson.

600
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of his Nigga bought.

601
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 6: A Checkie Thompson beat for two hundred and fifty fucking dollars.

602
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: No way, I.

603
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Swear to god, two hundred and fifty dollars. Two hundred

604
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars. So going back to what he says,

605
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: one of the dudes in the group was Michael Eeley.

606
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: Get the fuck out here about get the fuck out

607
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: of here, Michael.

608
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: I'll show you the picture.

609
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: Michael, we need you on the crib.

610
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: Hold on.

611
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: I didn't know what you'd be saying.

612
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: Can I show the table?

613
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: Blue eyes?

614
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: He got the kid.

615
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: Nigga said, he.

616
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Who is that?

617
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 4: Who's that in that picture. That was my first group nigga.

618
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: That is crazy.

619
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's crazy.

620
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: So did you were you able to get them moving

621
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: at all?

622
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 3: I didn't nothing.

623
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: We actually actually kind disorder, kind disorder, you know who

624
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: we fuck with? What's the dude they used to manage

625
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: Teddy Teddy? Uh? Yes, okay, we was gonna sign him

626
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: to Jane Griffy with some backdoor deal. I don't even know.

627
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't have no clue what the

628
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: contract looked like.

629
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: It was ugly.

630
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: It was gonna be ugly, you know what I'm saying.

631
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: So j Griffy because he lived in DC, he lived

632
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: actually lived up the street. He know, he was actually

633
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: messing with this chick that lived up the street the

634
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: neighborhood I grew up in, and I used to see

635
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: this red this range rover and like in the neighbor

636
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, who is this thing? Who's who is this dude?

637
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: And then Shauntey told me she was like, yeah, Dan

638
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: Dream Griffy, he's being being back and forth in DC.

639
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, we were, we were going to do a

640
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: situation with him.

641
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: He used to be messing with Cliff and Jerry and

642
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: him out.

643
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: There yes, that was your first That was my first

644
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: interest interest in music, music business?

645
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: How old are you at this point?

646
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: I was probably like this was it probably like twenty three,

647
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: twenty four.

648
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, so by this time you're like, listen, I'm the

649
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 6: money's going somewhere.

650
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: Yes, it's going somewhere else. I can't know because I've

651
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: seen so many people locked up there, like you know

652
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I had to, I had that

653
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: wherewithal to know that you can't you can't keep doing

654
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: this because it's going to lead to something crazy.

655
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 3: And how long were you in.

656
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 6: It before you guys leave to Atlanta? Like so you

657
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 6: had already been trying to figure the music thing out.

658
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: I had a video store, opened up, a video store.

659
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: Tank did I have a lot? I had a video store.

660
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: I had a carrier service, and then you know it

661
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: was a crazy I had a video store.

662
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: I bought a video So you mean video store videos.

663
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: Like Blockbuster the corner. Blockbuster had a corner block List

664
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: on ninth streak ninth and uh was it s ninth

665
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: and s get the.

666
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: Out of yo was getting money?

667
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, so listen, let me tell you some crazy.

668
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: So I had a video store so they had a

669
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: base spend in the video store. Right, I had never

670
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: I bought the store, never been down in the basement

671
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: in the store.

672
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: You never knew it had a basement.

673
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: Never knew it had a basement. But guess what was

674
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: in the basement All X rated videos. That's where they

675
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: kept it. That's where the X rated ship was down

676
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: in the basement. And I didn't even know it. So

677
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: one of the employees that was working there said, Yo,

678
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: do you know there's a downstairs and do you know

679
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: what's down there? And I'm like, no, what is down there?

680
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: She's like, extra, that's where the X rated videos are

681
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: naked is? That's what the butt naked is.

682
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: That's why I spent a lot of my time. I

683
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: hate when I look back on myself back in the

684
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 4: video store times and I st.

685
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: To no, I snig.

686
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: I just had to get up the nerve because there's

687
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: too many people in here.

688
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 4: Walk into the black door, because that that door was

689
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: always a different color, and niggas knew when you walk

690
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: back there, what you was going to do was going

691
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: to get that and these people to serve myself so

692
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 4: that you.

693
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, they had Hey, that video store

694
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: down the street. Oh yeah, that's a nice one.

695
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: Man. How long you had a video store?

696
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Probably like nine months? Just trying to figure it out.

697
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm trying to

698
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: figure it out. I know, Like I said, I know,

699
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: I can't keep doing this.

700
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: I got to figure it out.

701
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

702
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 6: How much money did you blow initially in the music

703
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 6: business because people be thinking like, Okay, I'm gonna just

704
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 6: take this money from overwherever, getting it from.

705
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: From my income tax, and I'm gonna.

706
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: Be cracking a music in a week. You know what

707
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: it was? It was it was kind of like the

708
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: money that we did was we put the good use

709
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: because we bought a building. We had a building. But

710
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: even before that, the throw it was okay, it wasn't

711
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't that. It wasn't that much. I wasn't spending

712
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of mo like that on that. I

713
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: was spending money on Goofy ship, but not that in

714
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: the beginning, because I was just I was like, okay,

715
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: this is this is cool. Like but you know, niggas

716
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: was flying in Vegas and doing all the Goofy ship,

717
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: buying the cars and all that ship that we do

718
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: go to Vegas. You know, you know what I mean,

719
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: taking trips, broads, you know what I mean, not the.

720
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: Don't you do it, don't do it, don't do it.

721
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: We're all beautiful and we are the Lord made somebody

722
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: for somebody at a certain level. Stop it, stop you stop,

723
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 4: cut it out.

724
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 7: Well yeah, so let me ask you a question.

725
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: The history, because first of all, it's crazy. Yeah.

726
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: I got another one though that nobody really knows about it.

727
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: I signed her when she was thirteen, Tory Kelly.

728
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: You signed her?

729
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: Yes, I signed Tory Kelly. She was signed to my

730
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: production company. What yes, thirteen and what was going on?

731
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: So I signed her to geffin huge deal they gave.

732
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: Let me tell you at this time they gave us.

733
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: You know, back then people was getting thirteen fourteen points.

734
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: I got a twenty eight point deal with Tory Kelly.

735
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: Shit back then, Yeah, because back then it was thirteen

736
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: fourteen points and twenty eight points twenty eight points. Got

737
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: a consultant deal out of it. And you know who

738
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: and you you probably remember her. You know who signed

739
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: was Polyanthony. Yeah, yeah, Polyanthony Signeder was like, Terry, this

740
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: is I've never heard.

741
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: This before Jojo comes out?

742
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 6: Or is it this is after right, we've seen the

743
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 6: success yes of what Jojo is, Yes, cooking an R

744
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 6: and B doing her thing, young girl.

745
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what's Jojo in a minute.

746
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: Because Jojo came out in like two thousand and five, four, Yeah,

747
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: something like that.

748
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, then it might have been. It might have been,

749
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: it might have been. Yeah, well Toy was only thirteen.

750
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: So y'all do so you signed her? Y'all do a

751
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: major level deal the whole thing.

752
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: Yes, I did it that well, they gave me this.

753
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: They gave like I said, they gave me a consultant deal.

754
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: They gave us twenty eight points. And back then, you know,

755
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: like I said, fourteen points, do you get that's for

756
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: the artist and the fucking like production cartopped up. Yeah,

757
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: everybody got to chop that up. So I got twenty

758
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: eight points and Polly was like, Terry, we're going to

759
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: put the money behind this man. We love her. Guess

760
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: what happened, You know what happens in the industry. Somebody

761
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: knew comes in.

762
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: Oh, the new new regime.

763
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the new regimes.

764
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: I used to hate that. That was that was the

765
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: worst of the day. That's the worst thing I can

766
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: have it.

767
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the new regime turnover was feeling the new regime

768
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: a coach.

769
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: It's a new coach.

770
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: The new regime comes in. Guess who the new regime

771
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: is Ron Fair?

772
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

773
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: And he said, hey, guess what. I don't want to

774
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: drop her. Immediately they dropped her.

775
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 7: He dropped it.

776
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: Ron Fair dropped her.

777
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: Dropped her.

778
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, she that lines up with him.

779
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he dropped her.

780
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: Big voice. Oh yeah, he dropped her.

781
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: Wow, he dropped her. So I'm in a dilemma now

782
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: Ron Fair dropped her. Now I have the opportunity to

783
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: go and get her another deal, because you know, you

784
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: only got a certain time. They go get her another deal.

785
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: So I'm searching to I'm not even searching to get

786
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: another deal. Actually, somebody called me from MTV and they

787
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: wanted to do this. Has been when MTV when they

788
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: were doing the backstories on artists and they you know,

789
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: they were doing these like reality things. They first started

790
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: doing this kind of shows. They were like, Yo, we

791
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: want to do we want to do we want to

792
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: do a story on Toy. We want to follow her

793
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: and her family and her journey and I'm like, yo, okay,

794
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: now we can get some traction. So I said, all right,

795
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: So I called her mom and dad and by this time,

796
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Toy was she was fifteen going on sixteen. And by

797
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: this time I called her mom and I said, hey,

798
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: I got these people from MTV. They want to fly

799
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: out and talk to you guys, and what they want

800
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: to do a show. They want to do a show

801
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: on Toy called the Toy Diaries or something did something.

802
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: It was really dope, right, and she they flew out,

803
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: they met the parents and then after that, I was like, okay,

804
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like are we going to do this?

805
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: So the mom said to me, she was like, Terry,

806
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: We're we have a dilimma. I'm like, what's the problem.

807
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: She's like, Toy wants to Toy wants to do American Idol.

808
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: She'll be sixteen. She can go on there. Now. I'm

809
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: like what. I'm like, no, no, no, no, can't. I can't.

810
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: And then I called my attorney and I'm like, yo,

811
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: he was like, she signed to you. You know you

812
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to go get her another deal. So

813
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: I contemplated and contemplated. Man and her mom, you know,

814
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: she she was crying one day on the phone and

815
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: she was just like, we don't know what to do.

816
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: She really wants to be on American Idol, and they

817
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: gave me this story. Like you know, she's been ever

818
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: since she's been an artist, we've been giving her, we've

819
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: been telling her what to do. Now that she's sixteen,

820
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: she wants to do something that she wants to, you

821
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I remember this like it

822
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: was yesterday. Man. I was. I was in DC, and

823
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: she had she had she had went the idol. But

824
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: once you go past a certain thing, that's when they started. Yeah,

825
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: so she was I guess she had got past a

826
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: certain thing. And the mom called me and was like, Terry,

827
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: this is this is the last day that we can

828
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: move forward being under your contract. And I'm driving in DC.

829
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm down on down in Chinatown and I'm driving and

830
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, man. I'm like, man, this girl is

831
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: fucking amazing, Like she's incredible, Like you can't let her go.

832
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I contemplated, contemplating, and I drove and

833
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: I said, I saw a fed AX. I pulled over

834
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: and told her mom to faxed me the papers to

835
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: the FED ax and I signed the release at the

836
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: fed X in DC. Wow, and let her out. I

837
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, it'll come back somehow, you

838
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. This is something she want to follow,

839
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: her dreams. She want to be on American Night. And

840
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: I told her, I was like that, like man who

841
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: runs on I knowed the people that win, I don't really,

842
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: like really really like a lot of them don't really

843
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: do anything. There's only a couple of them that really

844
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: really really made yeah, really take it. Then say you

845
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: sure you wanted to be on idol? Well, this is

846
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, this is something she wants to do. So

847
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: that was it, and I let her out and that

848
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: was it.

849
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: People don't know how many of those.

850
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 6: How many of those situations that we all come around,

851
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 6: are come across where we have to make human decisions

852
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 6: of an artist is in front of you or signed

853
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 6: to you, or whatever this case may be, when you're

854
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: doing business and there's another opportunity for them that you

855
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 6: don't want to stand in front of right that you

856
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 6: want to give them that opportunity right to go. Because

857
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 6: there are a lot of people in this business that

858
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 6: would have said, oh, you signing me, I don't care yeah, okay,

859
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: what level. And I was at that point, but you know,

860
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 6: like I.

861
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: Don't, I don't.

862
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 6: I don't like the function like that. Like I don't

863
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 6: like the function like that. And as I know, it's

864
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 6: gonna come back to me. Absolutely it has and it has.

865
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And like we had LaToya

866
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: like and the this was around the same time LaToya

867
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: was was was taken off, you know what I mean.

868
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: We got LaToya and I remember this too when we

869
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: when we signed LaToya, we made her album out here.

870
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know you remember Molly of.

871
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: Course I remember Molly after in the valley.

872
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, you don't remember. I can't think of

873
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 4: the name of that street studio. It's hung off the time.

874
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 4: That's my studio, man. Yeahs.

875
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Molly was this little white girl. She had a studio, studio,

876
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: fire studio upstairs, yeah, compound studio. Right. So that's what

877
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: we recorded La Toya's album. We recorded the day we

878
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: did Torn. We did it there, we did Torn, and

879
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: we did it there and got Toyo Dalic Capital.

880
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: You guys did Torn before you ever did the deal.

881
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So what the Toya we

882
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: was like listen, you gotta be so far from that's

883
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: the child thing. Like you your ship gotta be you

884
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: gotta be doing some ghetto ship like. Your ship gotta

885
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: be straight, ghetto like damn near rat beats. So it

886
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: won't be no confusion. You ain't trying to do this,

887
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: You ain't trying to do that. This is what you're

888
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: gonna do. And that's what we did. We like, that's

889
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: that's a sample that that that torn right, you know

890
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. So we made sure we did so

891
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: R and B, so R and B so they won't

892
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: be no confusion. And came out first week she had

893
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: the number one self. She was numb one. Number one's

894
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: the number one sevend when she sold three hundred thousand

895
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: records her first week. Wow, her first week.

896
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: And that's the thing though, because people had they had

897
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: written her off. Yeah, they had.

898
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: Written off right, completely written her off, completely written her off. Man.

899
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: But that's why we like, you gotta be anti whatever

900
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: they were. You gotta be totally different, totally different, totally different.

901
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: That's the only way you're gonna win, because you're gonna

902
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: have so much hate on you if you come out

903
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: trying to be in the comparison.

904
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: That's the conversation. Yes, is how good her music is?

905
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we made it. We made it.

906
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: Were just anti anti Destiny's Child. It worked, and it

907
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: worked and it worked. Now I'll tell you another story.

908
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: So I had Toya, I had Toy. This is all

909
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: around the same time. So you know, I got another one.

910
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting up in Capitol's office. Steve O Steve O.

911
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: Pud was the an R. And you know how in

912
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: the offices back then, people would send in CDs, and

913
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: he had a box of CDs in his office.

914
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 3: Right, she can't get to everything.

915
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: You can't get to everything. It was a box of

916
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: CDs and shit everywhere. So I'm looking in the box

917
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: one day and I'm looking. I was like, wait, fuck it,

918
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: help brod. It's gorgeous. I'm like, who if she can sing?

919
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: I said wow. So I put the thing in and

920
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: the songs were horrendous, bro terrible songs, terrible songs. And

921
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: then one last song she did a cover, a Minie

922
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 1: Rippleton cover, and I was like, oh, this bro can

923
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: sing sing?

924
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 6: Right, Leona Lewis no way, iWar to God, I swear

925
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 6: to God.

926
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: No lie. So Leona Lewis. So I look on the CD.

927
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: I look on the call. The dude on the back.

928
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, bro, like, is she's signing you like?

929
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: He was like nah, man. She was like, you know,

930
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: her dad comes over here. They come over here. They're

931
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: just trying to they're trying to figure it out, and

932
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: I'm just helping him out. She's not signing me, She's

933
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: not signing anyone. I said, well, okay, I want to

934
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: I want to bring her over here, right. So the

935
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: dude says, okay, let me tell her dad. Her and

936
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: her dad, and I was like, all right, waiting. Two

937
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: days went by and I'm like, damn, this dude hadn't

938
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: called me. So I called him. I was like, he's like, hey, bro,

939
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: I was just about to call you.

940
00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: Man.

941
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Talked to her dad and her and they've heard about

942
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: noon time and then all the stuff that all the

943
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: success that you guys had.

944
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 6: She's she wants to she wants to listen, she wants

945
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 6: to have a conversation.

946
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, So I get her and her

947
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: dad on the phone and I hear her sing on

948
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: the phone. I was like, yo, you need to come.

949
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: I need to bring you over here. Immediately, bring over here,

950
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: me set up and uh, what's the studio that used

951
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: to be on Sunset by cross from the mass Chinese

952
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: stayed and all of that. It was a studio over there.

953
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Somebody had a studio over there. Me and b Cox.

954
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: I brought be Cox, I brew blew bee Cox out

955
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: here and we started working on her out working on

956
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: her project. Did about four or five songs, and then

957
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: she goes back to No first, let me go back.

958
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: So when she's here. While she's here, I take her

959
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: to poly Anthony to Jaha. Now Jaha had a deal

960
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: over He was a an r at, he was an

961
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: an ARTI gapper. He's the one who signed Toy. He

962
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: signed Toy and I brought him Leona and he was like, yo,

963
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: I want to sign her too. Let's take her to Polly.

964
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: So I take Leona up to Polly. She sings for

965
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: and incredible voice, and Polly was just like, I don't

966
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: think she's After the meetings, she was like, Terry, I

967
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: like her, but I don't think she's a star. I

968
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: want to concentrate on Toy, right. She was like, let's

969
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: just do Toy. So I don't even think it was

970
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: about her, like not really liking her, but I think

971
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: she didn't want to have two girls to singing girls

972
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: like that, even though Toy was thirteen and Leona was

973
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: probably about eighteen or nineteen, so she probably didn't want

974
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: to have two girls like that. So Leona went back

975
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: over to Europe and Toya was taken off. Right now,

976
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: I told I had a year to get Leona deal.

977
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: Twelve months. I had a year to get over your

978
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: holding period. That was my holding period in her contract.

979
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: She had a year. So she goes back over to London,

980
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: probably like a month or two goes by. I start

981
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: getting the phone calls from the dad like, hey man,

982
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like are we gonna you guys

983
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: going to get us a deal? I was like, we'll do.

984
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: It's only been two months, Like I got ten more months,

985
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: Like so this is toy. Toy is taken off, like

986
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: a record of Day already came out.

987
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: So we do.

988
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: Toya does this show. She gets booked for this show

989
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: over and Europe called the Moboles. You heard of that.

990
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's a warshow, It's like our

991
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: soul train bet like BT. So we get booked over there.

992
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: So I've called it dad. I'm like, yo, man, I'm like,

993
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: we're on our way over there. I want to sit

994
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: down with you guys and figure this out. I and't

995
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: want to bring Lee on the back. Let's do this.

996
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: So he was like, okay, yeah. It was like that's exciting.

997
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I wanted to invite you guys to

998
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: the MOBOs. Right. I get over there, I go meet

999
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: with the dad. We sit down, we talk. He's like,

1000
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: Leona is excited about going, she wants to go, She's

1001
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: going to go, pick.

1002
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 6: Out her outfit. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Next

1003
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 6: day comes, they don't show up. I'm like, what the

1004
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 6: fuck is going on?

1005
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: So come to find out she was doing X Factor

1006
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: over there. The American writer. Crazy, shit, she's doing X

1007
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: Factor right. So I get back and I hit the data.

1008
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man, what was that shit about? Like, like,

1009
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: what's going on? He was like, oh man, you know

1010
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: you got you guys are taking too long. I said, well, listen, man,

1011
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: you got you got another seven months, six months on

1012
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: your contract. I want to bring her back over there,

1013
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: back back over here and finish her project. I want

1014
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: to get her a deal. I know I can get

1015
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: her a deal. And he was like all right. So

1016
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: I started getting these frantic phone calls like Yo, hey,

1017
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: what are we doing. We got to get out of

1018
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: this contract. I'm like, I'm like nah. I said, listen,

1019
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: what I will do is whatever she does over there

1020
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: until it comes back to America, then I have the

1021
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: rights for that when it comes back over to America.

1022
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: And he was like, okay, okay, let's let's figure that out.

1023
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 1: Let's work that out. So make a long story short,

1024
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: she was winning on X Factor. So the reason why

1025
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: she didn't go to the award show is because people

1026
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: would start recognizing.

1027
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 6: They would recognize her, but I didn't know what she

1028
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 6: was right, so they would recognize. So then I get

1029
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 6: this call late at night one day. They was like, Yo,

1030
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 6: my man called me. And was like, my man, damon,

1031
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 6: you know, damon, my guy.

1032
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: He caused me. It was like, YO, read this article

1033
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: and it was like Clive Davis signs the first X

1034
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: Factor artist to the USA, And I was like, huh.

1035
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: I was like what. I'm like, no fucking way. I

1036
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: was like, dog, she's still in our contract. He was

1037
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: like I know. He's like, what the fuck is going on,

1038
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: and I said, man, listen, bro, this is some shit.

1039
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: So guess what this is so crazy? Now Jaha is

1040
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: working for Sony. He's working for Clive and Larry. Right,

1041
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: he went from Geffen to Sony. So I immediately called

1042
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: y'ah like, joh yo, I said, dog, y'all got this

1043
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: girl over there. He was like who. I was like,

1044
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: you remember the girl I bought? You was like, who

1045
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: are you talking about. I was like, Leona Lewis. He said,

1046
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: we just had a company and she is fucking priority

1047
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: over here. I said, I said, Jaha. I said, you know,

1048
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: she's still signing me. She was like, oh, ship, that's

1049
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: right she is. I said, Jaha, I'm about to send

1050
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: you this contract and I need you to go tell

1051
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: the people that Sony that this girl is in a

1052
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: production situation and that this is a problem. This is

1053
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: a fucking huge problem. Right. So he was like he

1054
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: goes back to the company and then Sony was like,

1055
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: we ain't got nothing to do with that. That's X factor.

1056
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: You guys need to talk to the people that X

1057
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Factor or what Simon Cowell, whoever the fuck it.

1058
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 3: That's the furnishing company has done.

1059
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: So you need to talk to them. So I'm like,

1060
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: all right. So I go to my attorney and I'm like, yo,

1061
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: and you know who it is. It used to be

1062
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Barrier's attorney. What's his name? Man? What's his fucking name? No?

1063
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: Not Joah.

1064
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 4: He worked for joh Okay, he worked with John.

1065
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: I worked for him. Uh, big attorney, big huge attorney,

1066
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: black attorney. Anyway, So I go to him and he's like, bro,

1067
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta see him. So you're gonna have

1068
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: to see him. You have to threaten to swing him.

1069
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: So we sued him and settle. We settled. But yeah,

1070
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: she was, she was, she she was signed to me

1071
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: and she was she wanted to expact over there and

1072
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: then toy went to uh America American idol over here.

1073
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: So did you ever catch the fade with Simon cow

1074
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: or not? Did y'all fight?

1075
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Did we just? We just we settled out. We we

1076
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: we got it. We got it straight, We got it straight,

1077
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: We worked it out.

1078
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this. You can know how to pick him.

1079
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: That's one thing I do now. Female artists, you know

1080
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: how to pick him.

1081
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: You're you are, you're eight eight.

1082
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm good at that. I'm good at that's one thing

1083
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: I know. A female artist is good. And we even

1084
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: had what your column signed to us, man uh Nivia nib.

1085
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 3: It was noon time. Yeah, I didn't know that. I

1086
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: did actually that we.

1087
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: Had Nivia super cool.

1088
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Nivva.

1089
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: I used to be on the road always doing a

1090
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: bunch of days and ship together. Downside we had Nivia too.

1091
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1092
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: As you were getting as you as you guys were

1093
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: separating from the now time thing, your mentality was, I

1094
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: got to keep the ball roller.

1095
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: I got to keep the ball roller.

1096
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 3: Because everybody didn't stand music.

1097
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: No, everybody started yeah fashion yeah, yeah yeah, fashion.

1098
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brian was doing Ryan Kenny.

1099
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris went actually Chris went to Depth Jam. He

1100
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: was over there with l A and then and then

1101
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: and then noon was yeah, they had showed up.

1102
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 6: They were still working working show enough and then I

1103
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 6: just I just came out here and start started.

1104
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: Managing you know Jason, Yeah, the guru of mixing.

1105
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: How does that happen? Because at one point that.

1106
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: Happened because the same partners. Yes, but but Jason used

1107
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: to be the used to work at DreamWorks. He was

1108
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: in A and R. I know this right, So so

1109
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: that's how we got close exactly.

1110
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 4: That's how that's how all of us got well, that's

1111
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: how we was already he was already cool. But then

1112
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 4: that's how I got close with Jason because of the

1113
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 4: dream Works.

1114
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: Because the dream Works. Yeah, yeah, Jason was at dream Works.

1115
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: He was an R. I was consulting over their dream Works.

1116
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: So that's how me and him met. And the crazy

1117
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: thing about that is when I first came out here,

1118
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what mixing was. Like. He was like,

1119
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: we were like, we had a record, and he was like, bro,

1120
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: we got to go mix this record. And I'm like, mixed.

1121
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that? He was like, that's what

1122
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: they separate all the sounds. And I was like, okay,

1123
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: And that was the first time I even knew what

1124
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: mixing was. And he he was he was a producer. Actually,

1125
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: Jason was a producer.

1126
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: He's produced Beckett beck Att.

1127
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: Yes, Jason was producing.

1128
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: Jason didn't really know song structure though.

1129
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: Yes he did, he did not. He knew a lot

1130
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: about a lot about that he taught me about I

1131
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: didn't know about it.

1132
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: I taught him some ship.

1133
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: Okay, well you taught him some You might have taught

1134
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: him some ship, but he yes, okay, because.

1135
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 4: He definitely wasn't no mixed engineer at that time. No,

1136
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: not even close.

1137
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: No, he wasn't.

1138
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 4: No, he was a marketing partner in what initially Well, okay,

1139
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 4: so maybe I have it wrong because the Daggio was

1140
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 4: your group group and he took to Jason and he

1141
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 4: facilitates the deal at dream always thought y'all were him and.

1142
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 1: Joel Busby that's like his God. Yes, right, so that's

1143
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: how that that all played out the dream.

1144
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: Works and you end up getting a consultancy.

1145
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, at DreamWorks.

1146
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so now you guys start working together making this.

1147
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: Start working together. And then one day Jason went over

1148
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: went off to he was doing marketing for some marketing company.

1149
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: And then I get a call one day and he's like, Yo,

1150
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm over here at Larrybie and I'm mixing. Now I'm

1151
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: like mixing. What are you? What are you talking about?

1152
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I'm I'm I'm over here. I'm

1153
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: a runnerunner.

1154
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: In the beginning, he was assistant.

1155
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: He was a run No, everyone wasn't even assistant. He

1156
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: was a runner first, yes, you know, yes, yeah, and

1157
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: then he became an assistant for Dave he became an

1158
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: assistant for David Soo and he called me and was like, bro,

1159
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you, I'm gonna need you. I was

1160
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: like what He was like, I'm mixing now and me

1161
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: and Dave. So I started managing me, and Damon started

1162
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: managing Dave and Jason.

1163
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 4: So they used to I don't know, I managed David

1164
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 4: and uh Jason, and they had they were That's where

1165
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 4: the Pensado group came from.

1166
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: That's that was Jason and Daves mixing entity. So Jason

1167
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: and I remember this is crazy too. How Jason really

1168
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: how he got his first record that he mixed on

1169
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: his own. I got a call from this is when

1170
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: he was working real happy with Tricky and Dream and

1171
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: all of them, and they called and they was like,

1172
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: we want this record to be mixed, but we want

1173
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: Jason to mix it. We was like, what record is that?

1174
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: They was like mm hm this record called single Ladies,

1175
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: So so listen. So we get we get a call

1176
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: and he's in the dilemma like, Hey, what am I

1177
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: going to do? They want me to mix this without Dave?

1178
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: How am you know what I mean? So that was

1179
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: the first record he mixed on his own. What single ladies.

1180
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of here, single ladies. That's the

1181
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: way to kick it off.

1182
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: That's the way to get them.

1183
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1184
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: Thanks the Tricky you know what I mean. Tricky and

1185
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: Dream You know what I mean. Tricky and Dream brought

1186
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: him that record. They wanted him to do it on

1187
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: his own, and that was and they gave him a chance.

1188
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: He did it and killed it. Yeah, and the rest

1189
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: is history.

1190
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And this had been the first time

1191
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: you had ever managed.

1192
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: A mixing Yeah, this is the first time I ever managed.

1193
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 6: Before him and Dave, Like at that point you were

1194
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 6: purely just artists, artist.

1195
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: Producers, writers, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1196
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 3: Because what's the what's the difference in managing.

1197
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 6: I know, I know the difference between managing the artists

1198
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 6: and managing even producer or you know, someone on from

1199
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 6: the behind the scenes. But there has to be differences

1200
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 6: in managing a producer writer then managing the mixer.

1201
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big difference. It's a huge And.

1202
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 3: You kind of give us some insight on how you.

1203
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 4: Like is it traditional selling? Like you know what I'm saying,

1204
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 4: Like you go into the office and like you want

1205
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 4: to mix, Oh no, I got to mix for you

1206
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 4: listen to this, like, no, that was that itself.

1207
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: Yes, it was organic, you know what I mean, Like

1208
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: it was an organic type of situation that manifested with that.

1209
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: Like that's something I mean, you can go do that

1210
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I managed this mixing in here's what

1211
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: he's done. But a lot of that was just.

1212
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: You kind of walked you well, you kind of walked

1213
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 4: into something that had some legs to it.

1214
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and because.

1215
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 3: Popping, you know what I'm saying.

1216
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: They already he was already you know, people went to him.

1217
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: You know, they loved his vocals, they loved how he

1218
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: made their vocals sound. And that's what made Jason so

1219
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: dope is because he's knew how to make your beats

1220
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: keep knocking, but your vocals focus on and a lot

1221
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: of a lot of mixing engineers don't know how to

1222
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: do both.

1223
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you have the new kid whose whose

1224
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 4: first solo mix is this big fucking this big fucking

1225
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 4: so it's like the calling card, Yes you don't there's

1226
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 4: nothing else to sell.

1227
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: There's there's nothing else to sell. So he pretty much

1228
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's that's like pretty much like self contained,

1229
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know what I mean.

1230
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 3: And you guys have been working together. How many years? Now?

1231
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: When was that when we because that's when I first

1232
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: met him? When you where was that that was? That

1233
01:07:53,360 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: was two nineteen ninety money thousand, two thousand, two thousand. Yes,

1234
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: that's when I first met Jason. I mean I had

1235
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: known him probably for like a year when he came around.

1236
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 6: Ye, let's talk about when he came around. Sure, let's

1237
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 6: talk about when he came around. Man, you know you

1238
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 6: say this nigga life, Man, I did damn right, I

1239
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 6: did save I did save save Jay. I'll just say

1240
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 6: I just said. I'll just say I believed. Listen, I believe.

1241
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: But I heard, Okay, I heard a few things, and

1242
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:31,879
Speaker 1: I was like this kid.

1243
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: Nice, there's a difference.

1244
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: Nice.

1245
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 4: There's a difference between believing and your money putting your

1246
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 4: money up.

1247
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.

1248
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: There is a great difference. I have seen the nigga

1249
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: like you.

1250
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: Help me with my talent.

1251
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: Ship back to me. No, No, this nigga was like this, Nah, nigga,

1252
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: come to the studio.

1253
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,959
Speaker 4: I need songs. I had my equipment on deck. Nigga,

1254
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 4: nigga way before a computer.

1255
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: N he did you came in with your PC keyboarding?

1256
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: There let's work.

1257
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 4: Yes, I wrote the song, yes, yes, everything. He had

1258
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 4: all everything, yo, Nigga.

1259
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: He came to the studio with his keyboard. Niggas like,

1260
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: create a song. I'm ready to work, and so came

1261
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: in there, laid it down.

1262
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: Gat him.

1263
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 4: Niggas they parts sing this ship nigga, let's God. And

1264
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 4: that nigga was like, nigga because.

1265
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,520
Speaker 3: How old are you? Just played like twenty.

1266
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: One, twenty twenty.

1267
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: Two or twenty three? Wow?

1268
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and niggas this Niggas like nigga, No nigga, Yeah, yeah,

1269
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: you got it.

1270
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 3: We're gonna do. How to introduce you?

1271
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 4: I got to introduce you to Jerald Yeah, him and

1272
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 4: Jameson gotta introduce you, Jail nigga and I I went

1273
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 4: and said you and and Dreino has my my background.

1274
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: Singers, yes who. I'm working on their ship too. At

1275
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 3: the same time I'm working on his. You have a record.

1276
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: I have a record record.

1277
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 4: That's why I'm out there in l ah It was

1278
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 4: a litt quiet, little wife and my hotel is about

1279
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 4: to run out le Montross.

1280
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 3: Are you gonna one of the other one?

1281
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 4: My hotel was getting running the fuck out, telling me

1282
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: that I think I'm not to not have nowhere to.

1283
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 3: Stay all that.

1284
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 1: No, he was, you know, niggas niggas be lying, No.

1285
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 4: No, I said, niggas. Shit is almost open. Niggas handling

1286
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 4: and nigga. Joe Buzzy said, I like your tunes.

1287
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like your tone. These are good, good tunes,

1288
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 3: good records. Man.

1289
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: I like, I like, I like what you're doing, and

1290
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna give you seventeen to five.

1291
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 4: You know, I was like this, IM about to get

1292
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 4: seventeen thousand and five. I was like, I was like, okay,

1293
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 4: I said, thank you so much. You know what I'm saying,

1294
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 4: like you're grabbing, you know, seventeen five. Okay, He's okay,

1295
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 4: So that's the total, he said, this is it? No,

1296
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 4: it is seventeen five for two. Do you want two

1297
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 4: records for seventeen five? That's fine, I'll tell you, no,

1298
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 4: I want two records.

1299
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 8: Third, I'll say, ooh, and one is.

1300
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 3: For your group.

1301
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was the first one.

1302
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: The first one.

1303
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: I was the one who I should have supposed to.

1304
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: Don't get that twisted. Jay I was the one to

1305
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: wash it the.

1306
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 3: Second ones as a producer. Second one was going to mo.

1307
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: Yes, the second I was going to text, yeah the dog.

1308
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 3: You were first, brother, Okay, you were first.

1309
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: Want everybody to know. I don't want niggas to be

1310
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: getting confused. I heard somebody else say that they was

1311
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: the first one to give you producer. But I heard

1312
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: now somebody said that Bryan Alexander was the first one

1313
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: to believe. I have to give him that, Bernard. Bernard

1314
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: Alexander was the first one to believe. I have to

1315
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,520
Speaker 1: give him that because he heard maybe I deserve before anybody,

1316
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: and he was sending me.

1317
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 3: He was sending it. He was the check was the day.

1318
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 4: It was okay, And Barry Hankerson called and said, if

1319
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 4: you sell that song, I'm gonna kill you.

1320
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: I said, but you told me to sell it, and.

1321
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: Now everybody wants it.

1322
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 4: Now we can't collect that. Yeah, okay, he was. He

1323
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 4: was about.

1324
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: To see that's the one. That's the I'm about to do.

1325
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 4: You got No, it wasn't his fault. He ran up

1326
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 4: against the monster. But if he paid for it, if

1327
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 4: you pay for it time, No, No, it was a

1328
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 4: day late. It was a day late and a dollar short,

1329
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 4: and Barry Hankerson wasn't wasn't no, he wasn't nobody to

1330
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 4: play with it. That wasn't you don't you don't really

1331
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 4: play with him at that time.

1332
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 3: Not the first nigga.

1333
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: Good cut right here, same the cutter.

1334
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: About to kick you. Listen.

1335
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 4: The Mantos always sent you away with a chocolate chip,

1336
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 4: cookies and a strawberry, so you already giving you They

1337
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 4: gave my notice here put that chocolate chip on your pillow.

1338
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: Sir. You got to get out of here.

1339
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 4: You gotta get the funk out, and I had nowhere

1340
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 4: to stay. It's all right, and listen, believe when man

1341
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 4: I knew you was going to be you know what happened.

1342
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 4: I went and bought some rims.

1343
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: Understood you had twelve cards.

1344
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: I definitely you know, also had a video store. I

1345
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 3: had the video.

1346
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you listen, here's what's so crazy about you

1347
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 4: having a video store.

1348
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 3: I used to go get so many videos from the

1349
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 3: video store. The niggas will borrow videos from me.

1350
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 4: What you think he might still have some videos that

1351
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 4: were from tr didn't even know if.

1352
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: You, yeah, you might have had them joints killing him.

1353
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 3: Then they started doing a DVD.

1354
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 6: I have insurance on those like because nigga usually just

1355
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 6: keep the videos, man, Like, how did you.

1356
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: Know niggas used to have to call and harass the

1357
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: people videos? Yo, when did you bring in the video back?

1358
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: Like I just I just want to hear your voice.

1359
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 4: Saying kin and rewind Please, hey, my nigga, my nigga

1360
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 4: a video. Bro, you got Sally those black five days late? Nigga,

1361
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 4: you got Sally Goes black talents. You had to for

1362
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 4: two months? Now what are we doing? Come on, my nigga.

1363
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 4: Oh man, you gotta be done with them.

1364
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: You have to call number Blockbuster used to call you.

1365
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: What Blockbusters would be on the nigga calling you like them?

1366
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 4: But think about that though. They have to be a

1367
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 4: real honor system for you to just bring something.

1368
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: Back because you wanted something. Yeah, but yeah, but think

1369
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 3: about right now.

1370
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, good luck, good luck with that, Good

1371
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: luck with that, with your videos. Think in your video

1372
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: come get me, get find me at that bogus address

1373
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: a more serious note, how does.

1374
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 3: All this lead.

1375
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 6: You then becoming a board member and being on the

1376
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 6: board of Carnegie Hall?

1377
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: How does that happen? So Jay? That kind of came

1378
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: about because my whole life I value relationships like that

1379
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: to me is more important than anything.

1380
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 3: We've never not been friends, you know.

1381
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Like, I don't have I can't, I

1382
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: can't even I don't know. I don't have any enemies.

1383
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that you were men my name

1384
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: and niggas be.

1385
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 3: Like that, niggas fuck nigga.

1386
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with him like every it's every I'm

1387
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: just cool because I know how valuable valuable relationships are.

1388
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: That's the most important, more than money to me, man,

1389
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: because you can get money and lose money. I've had money,

1390
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 1: lost money, but this kind of relationships are the ones

1391
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: that you know, keep you going. So I just develop

1392
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: a lot of relationships. So one day I'm doing I'm

1393
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: into political shit. This girl calls me and like, Yo,

1394
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: you know all of these celebrities, you know these people.

1395
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: Biden is trying to, you know, figure out what he's

1396
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: wanting to do for his first hundred days in office,

1397
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: and we need you to, you know, get these celebrities

1398
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: and get these influences to come on board for this.

1399
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like sure, I'm like you know what I mean.

1400
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: So we used to do these zoom calls and it

1401
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: would be all these political people, and there'd be like

1402
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: sixty people on these calls. And this this girl from DC,

1403
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: her name is Lelania, her mom is was the widow

1404
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 1: of Man Barry, so there she's collect connected heavily in

1405
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: the political game. So we used to do these zoom

1406
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: calls and I used to be on there and we

1407
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: would have calls about all of this stuff, and then

1408
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: I would always speak up and be like, listen, y'all

1409
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: keep going after all of these celebrities, these older celebrities.

1410
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: You're trying to get these kids. You got to get

1411
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: somebody that they're going to relate to, Like, they're not

1412
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: going to relate to these old people, these older these

1413
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: older athletes or these older entertainers. So let's focus on

1414
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 1: getting like some of these somebody who's in the political

1415
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: space that's young that they're going to listen to. They're

1416
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: not going to listen to these other people. So the dude,

1417
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: one of the dudes that was on the call called

1418
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: me offline one day and was like, hey man, He

1419
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: was like, bro, like you'd be on these calls and

1420
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 1: I look the way you hand yourself and you know

1421
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people, what do you think about Carnegie Hall,

1422
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: and I was like, Carnegie Hall. That's the fucking like,

1423
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: that's the krim Della Krima venues. Like. He was like, yeah,

1424
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 1: you know, Robert Smith is the chairman of the board

1425
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 1: and they really want to bring culture over to Carnegie.

1426
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm in. And he

1427
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: was like all right, I want to. I really fuck

1428
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: with you. I'll rock with you. I want I think you,

1429
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: I think you would be perfect for this. I was like, okay,

1430
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: let me, let me do what I need to do.

1431
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, I want to introduce you to

1432
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: the people that Carnegie. You meet me up in New York.

1433
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: Have you go meet to people at Carnegie. So I went.

1434
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's a Carnegie Hall. They don't do the

1435
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: business we do, especially not the music, right. Everything is

1436
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: chopped like when they say they gonna do stop, this

1437
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: gets done there. Like they booked stuff Street they booked

1438
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: like three and four years out right. That's not ship

1439
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: we used to So I'm coming in. So so I

1440
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: went up there and I met with them and they

1441
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: were like, yo, we want to bring you on. I

1442
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: was like okay, And then I'm in the hallway right

1443
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: of Carnegie and there there's these pictures, old pictures of

1444
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 1: people in the old show, like black and white pictures.

1445
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the pictures thinking, and I'm like, I say, goddamn,

1446
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: everybody's dressed up. Like we don't get dressed up. No,

1447
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: Like people don't go to concerts. They don't get dressed up.

1448
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: No more So, I said, yo, I told my man.

1449
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: I was like, man, listen, if we do anything over here, bro,

1450
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: it has to be black tie and it has to

1451
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: be an orchestra company. The artists like, that's what we

1452
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: gotta do. I said, I want to make this where

1453
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: it's totally an experience. This ain't going like going to

1454
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: the Barclays or going to Apollo. You got to get

1455
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: dressed up. And if you can't get dressed up, this

1456
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: ain't ain't venue spanked the venue for you. Maybe you

1457
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: go to another one another, go see this artist at

1458
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: another another venue, but not here. I ain't having no

1459
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: hoodies and none of that ship. So the people at

1460
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: Carnege was like, okay, let's let's let's let's rock out

1461
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 1: and let's do it. So it's this funny story, so crazy.

1462
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: So we're in the studio Jason's mixing the record of

1463
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: D Nice. He's mixing it, mixing the D Nice record.

1464
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: So I'm in a studio and I keep looking at

1465
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: D Nice.

1466
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, quart is that when he had the D

1467
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 3: Nice and Neo record.

1468
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: No, it was a it was a record that they

1469
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: it was an older record that he came back and redid.

1470
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at him and jajas you know, Jaha

1471
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: and d and Nice were they were rocking together. And

1472
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at D Nice and I'm like club Quarantine

1473
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: Carnegie Yah. I kept thinking this in my fucking head,

1474
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: and so I said, D Nice. I went over to him.

1475
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, what do you think about carnegi y'all?

1476
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 1: Would you want to perform at Carnegie Hall? And he

1477
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: looked at me. He said what He was like, nigga,

1478
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: that's on my bucket list? I said really, I said,

1479
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: all right? I said, what do you think if I

1480
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: could make it happen like I could, if I could

1481
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: make it happen, he was like me, how how are

1482
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: you gonna get me? You're gonna get me at Carnegie Hall?

1483
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, let me let me figure it out.

1484
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: So I sent the people. I said, listen, we should

1485
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: do Club Quarantine at Carnegie Hall. And they were like,

1486
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: who is the nice? I was like, so of course

1487
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: they wouldn't google him. Coach said he was. He was.

1488
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: He was a guy doing COVID. You know. He had

1489
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,919
Speaker 1: everybody from from Obama to Oprah to Bien to everybody

1490
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 1: on his fucking on his line playing music during COVID

1491
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: because nobody couldn't go out. And I said, he went

1492
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 1: from ten thousand followers to three million followers, you know

1493
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. And they were like, oh, this one

1494
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: might be this might be nice. Well let's do it.

1495
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 1: So I hit Jajah back and I told her, I said,

1496
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: tell the nice I got. We we can do this

1497
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: show at Carnegie. He was like, no way. I was

1498
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, So we did the show. The first show

1499
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: we ever did was Club Quarantine and cardig y'all. When

1500
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: I tell you man, people dressed up. It was I'm

1501
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,879
Speaker 1: looking at I'm looking at people walking in with gowns

1502
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: and niggas with tuxedos on, and I'm like, this is

1503
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: Carnegie Hall. So I said, So the show was on

1504
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: and you know, people was up and and racticst Niggas

1505
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: was singing and dancing. Because you know, the nice play

1506
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: all a dope music. He had Queen Ladieth would come out,

1507
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: he had Slick Rick come out, He had all these

1508
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: people come out foreman, and everybody's dressed up and having

1509
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: a good time. So there's the guy over there who

1510
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: is the chairman of Carnegie, who runs Carnegie. He was like, here,

1511
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: we were in the booth together, you know, they got

1512
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: them little booths. And he looked at me and he

1513
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: was like, Terry. He was like, I've been over here

1514
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: for twenty years, man, and I've never seen a hall

1515
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: rocking life. It's never felt like this. This energy is crazy.

1516
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: And I said, I was like, thank you, and he

1517
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: was like and I was like, even better. I said,

1518
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,839
Speaker 1: look around at here. And we started looking around in

1519
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: the in the audience right and I said, ninety nine

1520
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: percent of the people who are in here now have

1521
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: never been to fucking Carnegie Hall. And I said, we

1522
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: did this. I said, we did this, and I've changed

1523
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: the culture at Carnegie Hall, completely changed the culture at

1524
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: Carnegie like now, before I used to say stuff, So

1525
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: they starting to pivot for me, because you know, we

1526
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: don't fink like we don't function like that. So I

1527
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: might call and say I need to book a show

1528
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: for a fucking May of this year, Terry. You know

1529
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: we can't do that. The show's already booked. So they'll

1530
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: start to go find dates and stuff and to find

1531
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: people who ain't you know what I mean. You know

1532
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so so then you know that. So

1533
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just a wonderful experience, man.

1534
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: And the people that I have lined up coming over

1535
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: there is just it's insane, Like justin Timberlake, US. Sure.

1536
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: I mean these people that I've already talked to him,

1537
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: they want to be I talk to you about y'all

1538
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: coming over.

1539
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 4: Big band at Carnegie Hall? Okay, big band in orchestra

1540
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 4: at Carnegie Hall.

1541
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: Done?

1542
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 3: Frank Sinatra?

1543
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 4: Uh uh uh? What's the other album? Marvin Gaye's big

1544
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:59,520
Speaker 4: band album. I want to grab pieces, big band pieces

1545
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 4: go crazy.

1546
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 1: That's great. That's that's that's amazing. That's amazing.

1547
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 3: With my tucks on a shirt and.

1548
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: A shirt and you can take it off whatever if

1549
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: you want to. You want to conduct the orchestra too,

1550
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: you want to sing?

1551
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, and we want Michael buffer an announce.

1552
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: We can have that. We can have that, brother, brother,

1553
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: what do you do to UFC?

1554
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 3: We get the I need it?

1555
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: So Jay is are we confirming this?

1556
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I need on? If he confirms, we confer, I.

1557
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 4: Need glasper or Tim carrmon on piano like I need things.

1558
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it.

1559
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 4: Feels like it can happen. You know what I loved,

1560
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 4: I love and wine in the summertime.

1561
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: It's the best time.

1562
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: I feel like we can do it. This summer. We

1563
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 3: get a summertime. Can you find can you find me

1564
01:25:59,400 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: a summer day?

1565
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: Let me find let me, let me let me find

1566
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: out R and.

1567
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 9: B money uh constituents. We will be at Carnegie Hall,

1568
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 9: suited and booted. Yeah, tuxt and.

1569
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 4: Buck ah man this summer doing the standards, doing the standards,

1570
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 4: big voice, big band, all curated, one sound and one sound.

1571
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question curated by Let me

1572
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Yes, would this be your first

1573
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:32,959
Speaker 1: time performing at Carnia?

1574
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

1575
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn to another, I'm another first pause, Yes, I'm yep, yep,

1576
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 4: damn come on, make come on.

1577
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: Make key collected, baby, I gotta keep collecting collected, you know,

1578
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: come on, man, you know what I'm saying. Summertime, summertime,

1579
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: when I leave here, I'm gonna call and see if

1580
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: we got any days in the summertime.

1581
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 3: Perfect.

1582
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it happen. I can't wait for the show.

1583
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 6: It's going to happen. That's going to happen. Date and

1584
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 6: Take is putting it out there that he wants to something.

1585
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 3: Date.

1586
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 4: Okay, he wants the he want tell me a date

1587
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 4: so we can get the cooking. I'm talking charting chart.

1588
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,560
Speaker 1: And you start looking for the nigga charts.

1589
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm in I'm talking in here, nigga. That's what you're

1590
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 3: gonna do. You know, you go three your own streams.

1591
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 3: I'm oh ship upright.

1592
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to say another story that that a

1593
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know too. I used to manage

1594
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: him tunk and got him his deal and.

1595
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, y'all robbed the bank too, and

1596
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 6: y'all came through with that one.

1597
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 3: Y'all had no mask on.

1598
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 1: From Toya, you know him and Toya. Yeah, so I

1599
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: got I got him his deal that tennis through Jaha,

1600
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: I can wow.

1601
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 3: And then that ended up going to for real at first, right, that's.

1602
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: In the whole night. It was, it was, it was

1603
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell that story. Slim called me one night late night,

1604
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: like yo, because you know, and at Interscope or at

1605
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy always puts a producer with the artist. So Slim

1606
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: calls me and was like, man, Yo, g man, they

1607
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: want to put me in with They wanted Pharrell to

1608
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: do my whole album. And I'm like what, I'm like,

1609
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't like Slim, I'm like, yo, I said, man,

1610
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: that's pretty sound you got. Is like, that's a real,

1611
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: right thing. That's a real thing. Nobody's fu heard that.

1612
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 1: Nobody's doing that. I said. I mean, I said, you

1613
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: know you for Rella is incredible. I'm like, I know

1614
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: for and he's he's on fire. That's when he Farrell

1615
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,560
Speaker 1: was on fire. I said, but his sound is a

1616
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: little too clean for you. I said, what we should

1617
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: do is get two or three songs for the for

1618
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: the females, like half forhar Real, do the songs for

1619
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 1: the for the brods. You keep that same old tipping

1620
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: on four folds. And because nobody, he was like, man, man,

1621
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: I've been listening to these songs for all these years.

1622
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I was like Slim, when I first heard it, it

1623
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: was something different.

1624
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: Us.

1625
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Everybody else is gonna feel the same way.

1626
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 6: I felt like, let's keep that same energy and then

1627
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 6: you then you him, yes, then you do the.

1628
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 1: For real joints. He was like, man, they want me

1629
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: to do this. I was like, man, I was like, man,

1630
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: I love pharreal Real is incredible. But that sound, your

1631
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 1: sound is your sound, and nobody's doing that right now,

1632
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's coming straight out of Texas.

1633
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: Nobody's doing that. Nobody on the heast is hearing that.

1634
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Andy he went, you know, and did the thing with

1635
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 1: he did, and then.

1636
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 6: Then it worked out for him because if it's and

1637
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 6: he just really got all of his ship back, he

1638
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 6: got all that money. Yeah, did that deal? Yeah, the

1639
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,560
Speaker 6: deal didn't pan out the way. He got all his ownership,

1640
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 6: he got all and really his independence.

1641
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: He got his independence, but she had and I begged him.

1642
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: I begged like like and I heard him. And the

1643
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: reason why I heard him because when Toyo brought him

1644
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: up to me and she you know, they was going

1645
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 1: out or whatever. She was like, you never heard of

1646
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: slim Thing. I was like, no, I never heard of him. Noah,

1647
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: I never heard of him. So one day we was

1648
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: in the studio and I was sleep. You know how

1649
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: you be half of sleep in the studio, but you

1650
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: can still hear the music. And I'm in there. I'm late,

1651
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm asleep. And then he was rapping on one of

1652
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: these songs. He I was like, what the fuck is that?

1653
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: I said, I said, Toya, that's him. She was like, yeah,

1654
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: that's Slim. I was like, Oh, that Nigga's incredible. I said, Bro,

1655
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: you don't want a deal. He was like, nah, gee,

1656
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't want no deal. Man, I'm staying independent. I

1657
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 1: don't want no deal.

1658
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 3: Was like, this is way before independent was even the thing. Yeah,

1659
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 3: And that was like he understood it.

1660
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, he was like, nah, I don't

1661
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: want no deal. So one day he called me, he

1662
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: was like, gee, I'm ready. He's like, go get my deal.

1663
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: I said, all right, went right over to Jaja, ran

1664
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: over to Geff, got him his deal, big deal for

1665
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: him and his boss Hog because he had a crew

1666
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 1: called boss Hogs.

1667
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 6: Got him in his deal. Deal deal a crew, his

1668
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 6: crew are deal? Sure did that's crazy. I did not

1669
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 6: know that I've been doing.

1670
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: You know. I used to manage Dave Hollis too.

1671
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: With with Bernard Yeah.

1672
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Wellerd he was signed to them. He was I managed. Yeah,

1673
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I managed him.

1674
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 6: That's how That's how I got to to Uh I

1675
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 6: did the album or Jason? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dave.

1676
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: I was in his first video. Actually, I was in

1677
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: his first video, the video to his first Yeah.

1678
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 3: I was like, so, who Who's what's called?

1679
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: He was signed to? He was signed to Eric's label.

1680
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 3: Listen, I mean you you again around the block, your

1681
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 3: your your your relationships, like speak to who you are. Yeah.

1682
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 4: The fact the fact that you've been able to get

1683
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 4: so much done, you know what I mean, speaks to

1684
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 4: how the people in those positions view you.

1685
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I'm saying.

1686
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 4: They know they know you're worth worth the investment, worth

1687
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 4: the time, worth the opportunity, and that that continues.

1688
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,879
Speaker 3: To ring still.

1689
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 4: But you start doing music in ninety seven.

1690
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: Yea.

1691
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 3: A long more fucking time. I think you.

1692
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: Then I did the Freaknik document I don't know if you.

1693
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, you know I watched it.

1694
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: Did you watch it?

1695
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it? Disrespectful bro, Yeah watch it. I

1696
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 4: didn't know you did it. You do so many things.

1697
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 4: I didn't know you did Treaknick documentary. Absolutely not, and

1698
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 4: it's all that's not you called me and tell me

1699
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 4: that you're doing it.

1700
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 6: I mean, it makes sense for you to do the

1701
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 6: documentary if that's the ship.

1702
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen. It went full circle. Yeah, I went

1703
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 1: to Atlanta for Freak Nick and my first film was

1704
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: a Freaknick documentary, right, so it was full watch it.

1705
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 3: And that's what I was going to say.

1706
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 6: I feel like when I when I look at you,

1707
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 6: know your career and how long I've known you, I

1708
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 6: feel like you've just mastered the art of the pivot.

1709
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 6: You've always figured out the next move for yourself. You

1710
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 6: don't get too caught up in because that's the other

1711
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 6: thing in this business. It's like, and we talk about this,

1712
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 6: it's the nigga who got this. He's been trying to

1713
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 6: sell the same song, yeah, for ten years and that

1714
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 6: and that, and that connects to everybody in this business.

1715
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 3: M hmm.

1716
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 6: Maybe it's not the actual song, but yes, whatever you're

1717
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 6: doing so you're trying to do the same song and

1718
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 6: dance that. At some point it's like, yo, maybe you

1719
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 6: should try something different. Maybe maybe your talents fit somewhere else.

1720
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 6: And you know what I mean, And I and I

1721
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 6: think you know, watching your careers. Even for me, it's

1722
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 6: definitely been an inspiration for me seeing someone like yourself

1723
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 6: and being like you know, and obviously understanding what you

1724
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 6: come from, understanding what I come from, he comes from.

1725
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: Like.

1726
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 6: Saying, you know, because we were all supposed to be

1727
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 6: something whatever people thought that was. But we've all evolved,

1728
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 6: you have.

1729
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 3: Other things, you know.

1730
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 6: I mean, nobody ever thought that we would be sitting

1731
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:45,839
Speaker 6: here behind them a fucking microphone.

1732
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, like, we.

1733
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 4: Do this ship all the time at the studio, We'll

1734
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 4: sit at the table fucking Jason Johnson dog bit me.

1735
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: But you don't but y'all, but but what would I

1736
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: say about all the we know how to pivot?

1737
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 4: Well, you know what's crazy too, is that is that

1738
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 4: we weren't necessarily taught the pivot. No no, right, because

1739
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 4: because we come from a time where you do a

1740
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 4: thing and that's the thing you do, and you do

1741
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 4: it until you can't do it no more. You we've

1742
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 4: been we've been blessed to see opportunities outside of our

1743
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 4: main thing and understand how it could benefit you, understand

1744
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 4: the benefit everything and everybody that we're like, you know

1745
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,799
Speaker 4: what that that could add to or that could be dope?

1746
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 4: If and we don't come from that, which is crazy

1747
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 4: because like when if you were to get a branding

1748
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 4: deal back in the nineties or early two thousands or like,

1749
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 4: that was just like what, oh you got a what

1750
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 4: how'd you get?

1751
01:35:54,439 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 3: Like? Seeing Tyree's model was like, how do you do that? Yeah?

1752
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 6: I remember talking to Tyree when he was first got

1753
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 6: his VJ job. Nigga, wait, you're doing what.

1754
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1755
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 6: Like nobody was I'm gonna introduce this and then I'm

1756
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 6: gonna I'm Like people.

1757
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 3: In the record business were like frowning, frowning upon that.

1758
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 1: You shouldn't do that.

1759
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta focus on your music. You gotta your artistry.

1760
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 4: But all of that lended to him being superstar. Yeah,

1761
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 4: and we didn't know that then. It's something that they

1762
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 4: grew on us and that as those opportunities came, we

1763
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 4: were smart enough say no, no, give me that.

1764
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: But but but I would say, all three of us,

1765
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: we're just not gonna let people put us in a box.

1766
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm never gonna be put in the fucking box.

1767
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 1: You can't put me in a box.

1768
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 3: You can't.

1769
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight the fucking way. I'm gonna my way out.

1770
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 3: You gotta hear J say, tank, that's too far, that's.

1771
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean you. I mean because we all need that too, though,

1772
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 1: But you don't need you know why, because we want

1773
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: the reward and you can't get to that reward unless

1774
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 1: you take chance.

1775
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1776
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, high risk, high reward at the end of the day.

1777
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 6: But you gotta tell you gotta have the nigga in

1778
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 6: the car with you that says we got too much dope?

1779
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: You too much help? Is that too much dope?

1780
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 3: I cannot confirm, n.

1781
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: We can.

1782
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 3: How many keys are too many keys?

1783
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't think anything.

1784
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 4: I think once you get over a certain amount, the

1785
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 4: charge is still the same car.

1786
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: Life is I've got, You're gonna get the same amount

1787
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: of time.

1788
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, your intent is to distribute.

1789
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 4: Yes, let's just take nine once can get to like

1790
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 4: when you go to the think and how much do

1791
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 4: y'all report this?

1792
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? I can't report, okay, but you.

1793
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Do need that, but sometimes you do need you know,

1794
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: we all agree.

1795
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 4: We all need that, right, we all need because the

1796
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 4: voice that we trust, Yeah, right, And I think that

1797
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 4: for us that's been so big for us because we

1798
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 4: both trust each other's voice so much that it starts there.

1799
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 3: It starts with respect. It starts with respect.

1800
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:25,759
Speaker 1: Y'all are great together.

1801
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 3: That was a great guy, man.

1802
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 1: I really great to like this guy. They all look

1803
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: great together. Man. I like that man. He's always been

1804
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: the game. When I first met him, tank Man, he

1805
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: was introduced me to him man our brother, and I

1806
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: was like, that's a that niggas that young niggas nice man.

1807
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: He got some swag to him, you know what I mean.

1808
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: And then when I found out he could really play basketball,

1809
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: that's when the app That's when the real respect came out.

1810
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 3: That's normally where it starts.

1811
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: A lot of them say that they can play, but they.

1812
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 3: Don't they understand.

1813
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 6: That's a whole other part of basketball. Right, especially as

1814
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 6: we've gotten older, you start to you start to you

1815
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 6: start to have a different love and respect for guys

1816
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 6: who understand basketball.

1817
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 3: It's like, my nigga, if you don't know certain basic things.

1818
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: Basic things, you the basic He's fundamental, He's fundamentally make

1819
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 1: the read.

1820
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and it's and listen, it

1821
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 6: is only a few of us then understand it. In

1822
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 6: this business, we played basketball with everyone like this nigga.

1823
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 6: Yes he's athletic, Yes, he can move and get to

1824
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 6: the spot. He I don't know if he can play

1825
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 6: basket right the right way. If he understands the guy

1826
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 6: that's on his team can shoot the ship out the ball.

1827
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 6: This guy needs to have the ball in his hand

1828
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 6: and he needs to have it at this spot.

1829
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 3: This is a different.

1830
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: Understanding, totally different. On standard makes the game.

1831
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 3: More fun and it's more fluids. You know, we played

1832
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 3: a lot of basketball, a lot of and a lot

1833
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 3: of random mass.

1834
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:08,919
Speaker 1: I remember the league, man.

1835
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 3: I got what championships and here you go with these

1836
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 3: championship rings in that league.

1837
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:21,440
Speaker 4: Man, that league manage n B A E lee.

1838
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: He was doing your thing over there.

1839
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 3: Doing I was doing my boy brought him.

1840
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 1: My retirement.

1841
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 3: Is that I'm back.

1842
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Taket went and played an adult league.

1843
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 4: Man, I don't even do that in the district.

1844
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 6: Listen, I don't even do that. I'll playing the runs

1845
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 6: the private Russ. I'm not going to play no dot.

1846
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Rest.

1847
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to be with the refs.

1848
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 1: He always liked the rafts.

1849
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:52,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to be where people are reffing themselves

1850
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:54,440
Speaker 4: like himself.

1851
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 1: He hated that man because.

1852
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna call it. But I'm like you don't

1853
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 4: call far. Yeah, you do know what you just did.

1854
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,679
Speaker 4: Come on, you gotta call it all right. He don't

1855
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 4: call fucking foul anyway.

1856
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,440
Speaker 3: Your Top five R and B.

1857
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:22,879
Speaker 1: Artists Prince shaw Day, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and USU.

1858
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm cold fire, Cold five Quick, too quick, quick

1859
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 6: niggas smart quick, on his feet on his tools, m M.

1860
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 3: Top five R and B songs.

1861
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: Purple Rain, Cherish Today, Uh, isn't she lovely? You remind me?

1862
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 1: And what's the other one? Jodasy song, Jodasy All my.

1863
01:41:55,600 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Life mm hmmm, All my Life is different?

1864
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 1: Different, hit different? That hit different? When I heard different?

1865
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 3: That real? But that's Kasey and Jojo. It is technically

1866
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:14,719
Speaker 3: because it's tough.

1867
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 4: It's tough to follow Joe Tosy even as Casey and

1868
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:25,839
Speaker 4: Jojo right with something completely different. No, that was completely

1869
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 4: and knock it out the park, super smash. Let's make

1870
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 4: a vultron. You're super R and B artists. We need

1871
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 4: an art every category. You put one artist in the vocal,

1872
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:47,799
Speaker 4: the performance style, the styling and the passion of the artists.

1873
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 4: Choose one vocal in history to make your Super R

1874
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 4: and B artists what one vocal are you getting.

1875
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: All Luther hm hmmm.

1876
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:03,440
Speaker 3: Doom doom, doom, doom doom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1877
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: I loved it, loved it.

1878
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 4: It's something about a nigga that can sing so good.

1879
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 4: He don't got to do nothing else but sing.

1880
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like think about that, just sit there saying,

1881
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 3: just stand there, that's it and sing the song and

1882
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 3: we are amazed.

1883
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:25,480
Speaker 1: Did you see this documentary?

1884
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 3: That's how you know you can sing on a level

1885
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 3: that is godly. Shout out to Fox for that too.

1886
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 3: You know Fox is a producer on that document know that. Okay.

1887
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1888
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 4: Performance style, m J. I gotta go with roll with

1889
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 4: that Luther voice.

1890
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 3: M J.

1891
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 4: Performance definitely has one of us is gonna die at this.

1892
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 4: You don't faint. Folks can go in the cardiac a

1893
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 4: rest at that show.

1894
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1895
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah. The styling of the artists. I gotta say, Marvin style.

1896
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,719
Speaker 3: I knew you were going to say that. I knew

1897
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 3: you were going to say that.

1898
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 6: I got to say his style, his style, superfly, he

1899
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 6: was he was just yeah, just on him.

1900
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, his thoughts. I loved his thoughts. Yeah, uh hm.

1901
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 3: The passion of the artists, the passion of the artists

1902
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 3: who mean it.

1903
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 1: You know who I really really like I love I

1904
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: love I love her, I love her love but her

1905
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: just her like her passion.

1906
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 3: It was just her passion exudes in her aura.

1907
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's what that's her aura. Yeah, like she

1908
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 1: was diverish, but not like super diverish.

1909
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah she did.

1910
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: She had to. She didn't have to be I didn't

1911
01:44:58,040 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: feel mean yes, I feel me.

1912
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 3: She didn't have to say it.

1913
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't have to say it.

1914
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 3: That's for a lot of people. It stated yes, she.

1915
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 1: Didn't have to say it.

1916
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 3: You just she walked in.

1917
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 4: You knew, Yes, who's in the motherfucking building. Roll out

1918
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 4: that motherfucking red carpet? Put it on white gloves? Yes,

1919
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 4: and act and act like you.

1920
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 1: Know, yes, I loved her. I loved her her?

1921
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 3: Or who would manage your artist? Hm? Who would manage

1922
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 3: this artist?

1923
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 1: Are you talking about?

1924
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 7: Who asked what that for?

1925
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,799
Speaker 3: That would be some something? Because I say no to everybody.

1926
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: You wouldn't say no to that.

1927
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

1928
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:52,759
Speaker 1: Let's go get this, spin them around, get these white gloves,

1929
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 1: keep it, keep it the moving high.

1930
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 6: You know, we we had this very important part of

1931
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 6: the show. Now we tell us a story funny or

1932
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 6: fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? The only rude

1933
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 6: to the game, which is easy for you, you know,

1934
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 6: we know what you come from. Is you can't say

1935
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 6: no that you got.

1936
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 3: Videos.

1937
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: I forgot the name. We were in d C. As

1938
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 1: artist I was working with had a show and her

1939
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:33,679
Speaker 1: DJ kept messing with me and kept, you know, trying

1940
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: to antagonize me. So I beat up the DJ. But

1941
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't, Okay, Yeah, I beat up her

1942
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: DJ and the dancers and all the thing was in

1943
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: there screaming, get up off of them, please leave them alone.

1944
01:46:56,040 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Then once the artists found out, she was like, why

1945
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 1: did you do that at my show? And I was like, listen,

1946
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:09,560
Speaker 1: your man tested me, and I had to. I had to.

1947
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I had to show him what it was about. We

1948
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: was in d C too. I was like, yeah, I

1949
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 1: really really wanted them to know. And you and my

1950
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 1: home city, I'm gonna I'm gonna show you something. And

1951
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: I beat up the DJ on show on show night

1952
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,719
Speaker 1: before the show, right before the show. Was he able

1953
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 1: to DJ the show dj DJ? But he didn't. He didn't.

1954
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 1: He didn't say nothing else to me for the rest

1955
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 1: of the tour.

1956
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,839
Speaker 3: Oh he stayed on tour. Yeah, he stayed because you professional.

1957
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't like, yeah, I want.

1958
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: We had to let him know.

1959
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 3: We gotta get this little dust uff going.

1960
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I just had to. I just had to dust

1961
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: them up a little.

1962
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 3: It's called a friendly fade. Niggas have to get back

1963
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 3: to the.

1964
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 1: Friendly I mean. And you know, Jay, I, me and

1965
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 1: you were kind of like, we don't, we don't, we don't.

1966
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I like, it takes

1967
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: a lot to really push me over there. But once

1968
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 1: you do that, there's no no, there's no turn.

1969
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 6: Off here because we didn't get into this to still

1970
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 6: be doing that, right. And I think that's the thing

1971
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 6: that a lot of cats don't understand. They try to

1972
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 6: take it from Oh I was such and such in

1973
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 6: the streets and i'mp and now I'm going to be

1974
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 6: this in the music business too, Like, so why did

1975
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 6: you get into this?

1976
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 3: Then?

1977
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, now, if somebody pushes

1978
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 6: you to a point, we're all men, We're gonna protect

1979
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 6: ourselves and we got to handle our business.

1980
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: And that that is what it is, right.

1981
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 6: That's the part I never understood about where it becomes

1982
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 6: the bullying. And that's what I'm going to be in

1983
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 6: this space, right because could have left that ship over there.

1984
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.

1985
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 6: And that's why you've blasted so long in this space

1986
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 6: because you understand, like, Okay, it's some.

1987
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 3: Things I'm going to have to handle, but I'm not

1988
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 3: running around being.

1989
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Up there right. No, does it make sense?

1990
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Not even wearing who I was on my show.

1991
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 1: Your it's not good. It's not good for business.

1992
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 3: But that one, I like, let's just it was let's

1993
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 3: just get it on. Just yeah, and after we're done, cool?

1994
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 3: Were you good?

1995
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 1: You thought you thought something was different and you found

1996
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: out something wasn't you thought it was sweet on this

1997
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: side of the street.

1998
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had to be saying something outland ship.

1999
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:30,680
Speaker 1: He called me a bitch as no way, that's no

2000
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 1: way that he pulled that one out.

2001
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 3: What did you Doank?

2002
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 1: I just lost it man. Like I said, Bro, I'm

2003
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: very calm, and but once you get me on that side,

2004
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 1: if there's no turn.

2005
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 3: I've I've never imagined on this side somebody calling you that.

2006
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:57,639
Speaker 3: I could never.

2007
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't either, I've never That's the first time I've

2008
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: ever been called that. So that's why it just took

2009
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 1: me to the other side. I blacked I blacked out. Really,

2010
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: I was like, a DJ nigga call you that in

2011
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 1: front of Oh, come on, I could I wouldn't even

2012
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: know how to I couldn't even know how to live

2013
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:22,680
Speaker 1: without living, leaving living, leaving there knowing that I let

2014
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 1: somebody that, Like, that's the whole that's total disrespect from everybody.

2015
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna disrespect you. Let the DJ call you that.

2016
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 1: Never So I beat them up pretty bad in front

2017
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 1: of him, the dancers and all of that, and that

2018
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: was it. You ever had a friendly frame.

2019
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 3: A bunch of friendly face. At a certain age, people

2020
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 3: just stop wanting to fight me.

2021
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: You you did.

2022
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:59,799
Speaker 3: With It always starts with Bob, always started it somehow.

2023
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 1: I oh, you.

2024
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 3: Mean like we don't Yeah, yeah, but you know, and I.

2025
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:09,679
Speaker 4: Always got to hear about nigga. You don't hear about

2026
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 4: Bob and Jack. It's always convenient that I'm never there.

2027
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:18,839
Speaker 4: It's always when I'm never there, because.

2028
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 3: Then you know, niggas play hoop together again.

2029
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,679
Speaker 4: It's funny because you've probably been around somebody that happened

2030
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 4: with But like you said, it's that was a moment.

2031
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 3: I never speak on that. We never gonna talk about that,

2032
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 3: like that ship that happened this dude.

2033
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you something.

2034
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 3: I right know where this story goes.

2035
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: No you don't know what.

2036
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 6: No, you don't know where this one's going. He got

2037
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 6: somebody to give somebody a friendly faith.

2038
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 3: I know that story.

2039
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:48,600
Speaker 1: See at the gym, I know that story. That was

2040
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: beyond vicious man, and it was all because of him.

2041
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:55,639
Speaker 3: You know he was not because it was on that though.

2042
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 3: I take the blame. You take the blame because that's

2043
01:51:57,640 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 3: my friend.

2044
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're gonna let him I'm not the blank

2045
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: you with that ball.

2046
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 3: It's it's the equivalent. So you letting the DJ call you?

2047
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 1: Yo, you're gonna let that dude you with that ball?

2048
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, it was I didn't even say that.

2049
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you said.

2050
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 3: I looked at it. Knock him though.

2051
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: You know the story story.

2052
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 3: I told the story by the people that were there,

2053
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 3: everyone that was there.

2054
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 1: So you might hear that story when yeah, your next

2055
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: knock him the fuck up. I remember that like it

2056
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 1: was yesterday, man, that niggas threw.

2057
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 4: The ball and it wasn't so much it wasn't. It

2058
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 4: was the way he looked at me. Oh, Jay, is

2059
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 4: the way Jason looked at me. Me, He looked at

2060
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 4: me it had it happened? He looked at me, said,

2061
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 4: and I said, it was almost like he wanted to

2062
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 4: let it slide. And he was looking to me to

2063
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,440
Speaker 4: see if it was okay, okay.

2064
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 3: To not let it slide. And I said, not today, brother,

2065
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 3: fuck him up.

2066
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 1: You know that costs him a lot of money, Dude,

2067
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Sue the hell out of her.

2068
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 3: That's not a friendly. That's not a friendly. That's not friendly.

2069
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 3: That wasn't really they didn't know each other. It wasn't

2070
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:49,560
Speaker 3: cool like that friendly.

2071
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,879
Speaker 1: Face is like, hey man, we got a mutual respect.

2072
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 3: We don't really want to hurt each other like that,

2073
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 3: but you know, let's go. Let's go take care. Then

2074
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 3: don't hit people in the face with basketballs on purpose.

2075
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't do.

2076
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 3: And then sue. Wow mm hmmm. H For another part, brother,

2077
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 3: Terry Ross, Terry, like you are a brother and a friend.

2078
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 1: You are a.

2079
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 4: A name, You are an entity. You are an important

2080
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 4: piece to this whole university.

2081
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 6: We are all a part of a great father, great father,

2082
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 6: great father of that because that has to be spoken about, right,

2083
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 6: especially in what we do.

2084
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 3: This this this thing we do takes so much of

2085
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 3: our minds, of our time.

2086
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 6: So to say to yourself, I'm going to still be

2087
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 6: active and still like we've been in the gym together

2088
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 6: with our son, been at graduations, been at like I

2089
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 6: know about you going across the border to get your son.

2090
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 6: Have to go see it like these are things that

2091
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 6: a lot of people don't do for whatever reason. But

2092
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 6: for the guys that do, we always like to give

2093
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 6: them their flowers for being that.

2094
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate that, you know what I mean.

2095
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 6: That's a that's a real thing, and that is going

2096
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 6: to last us longer than this ship is, you know

2097
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 6: what I mean. Would our kids become how they feel

2098
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 6: about us, how they you know, appreciate us, man, so

2099
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 6: and you know all your kids, man, you do so

2100
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta make sure I give you that,

2101
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 6: make sure that father the father, yea fathers.

2102
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 1: Important.

2103
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely Well. We thank you, brother, We thank you for

2104
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 3: your time.

2105
01:55:56,360 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 1: Man. We appreciate you. I love what you got, the

2106
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 1: utmost respect for both of y'all. And this is I

2107
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 1: just love it.

2108
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 3: I love I love it and we'll see you this

2109
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 3: summer kind again. Understand what I'm saying.

2110
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, Money is Tank and this is

2111
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 4: the R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all

2112
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 4: things R and B.

2113
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 3: I can't say enough about this brother man.

2114
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 4: He is who he is, and anytime you hear that name,

2115
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 4: respect it and appreciate it our brother Terry T. R.

2116
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 1: Ross. Yeah, appreciate it by

2117
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah