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Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke LA audition. We're at the

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Speaker 1: top of LA as you guys can see with the

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Speaker 1: Morning Only Michael Rubin, thank you for having us in

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Speaker 1: your own good to be here. We appreciate it. Understand

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Speaker 1: you literally just got back from Paris. What were you

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Speaker 2: Went out to see Victor, which is one big dude.

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Speaker 2: You're an impressive guy. Was there for two days. We

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Speaker 2: actually visit our LID stores, our PHG stores, our NBA store,

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Speaker 2: spent good time at Victor, went to one of his games,

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Speaker 2: got to be there when he saw a team he

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Speaker 2: was going to play for. Normally we went just assume

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Speaker 2: when someone gets the lot of first lottery pick there,

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Speaker 2: I'm acically going to be there. But I think it's

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Speaker 2: pretty safe to say he's going to resper.

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Speaker 1: But you also share with me that he's a lot

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Speaker 1: deeper than meets the eye and a lot more mature

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Speaker 1: for his age. Speak to me with you know what

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Speaker 1: you're telling me off camera?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was blown away, like to see a nineteen

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Speaker 2: year old kid who is just so intelligent. He's talking

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Speaker 2: to me about not only what he's going to do

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Speaker 2: basketball perspective, but how he goes home and he wants

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Speaker 2: to write books, and he wants to be an artist,

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Speaker 2: and he's designing a power product that we're going to

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Speaker 2: make together, and he's thinking about what he's going to

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Speaker 2: do in trading cards with us. I mean, this was

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Speaker 2: a deep and thoughtful individual, amazing family, great parents. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, if I were a basketball team and

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Speaker 2: getting him, not only would I be excited about his

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Speaker 2: incredible athletics skills, but I'd be like, this is somebody

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Speaker 2: I want to build my tired business business.

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Speaker 1: Yea, the visual side, and that's where you excel at.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a ton of business questions, but we kind of

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Speaker 1: want to start, you know where you started as a child,

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Speaker 1: just growing up a fan of the Sixers, and then

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Speaker 1: the dream come true when you were able to actually

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Speaker 3: Talk to us about that process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, for me, I was really like one of

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Speaker 2: the most awful students known to mankind.

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Speaker 4: Actually people don't believe in that.

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Speaker 2: It was telling people launch I actually got a seven

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Speaker 2: the seven eighty combined comedy that was after six seventy

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Speaker 5: It was the same gang, not even close to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, way, or you didn't get a lover on the success.

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Speaker 5: I got my name right, that's four hundred.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that's four hundred for your name r Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's something right.

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Speaker 4: So So look, I was a terrible student.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 2: As athletic as you guys are. I'm the most unathletic

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Speaker 2: person in the planet Earth. So I was always good

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Speaker 2: at one thing, which was business. So I always loved business.

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Speaker 2: And so I grew up a fan of sports obviously,

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Speaker 2: and so the Sixers of my team as a kid.

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Speaker 2: So getting a chance to you know, kind of just

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Speaker 2: it was super special, super special.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, you came in ten years ago. You just gave

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Speaker 1: up your share. Was that last year? Yeah, So talk

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Speaker 1: to us just about what that journey was as a owner.

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Speaker 1: You know, you were right in the mix of the

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Speaker 1: process and getting Joel and having been and having Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Well, it certainly took any fun out of it, that's

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Speaker 2: for sure. But the thing is you just want to

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Speaker 2: you know, we were at it I was part of

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Speaker 2: You know, I think everyone knows, you know, Joe's family

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Speaker 4: That's the only reason, you know, on a team like

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Speaker 1: Championships especially, and that's the that's thee that that fan

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Speaker 4: Philly has great sports fans.

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Speaker 2: There are not a lot of cities that has just

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Speaker 2: You know, they have high expectations and they should and

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Speaker 2: so you know, when we, you know, got bounced in

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Speaker 2: the second round of the playoffs, they were rightfully disappointed.

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Speaker 4: No, you know, we were win playing for championship.

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Speaker 1: How happy obviously Joel being family to you to finally

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Speaker 1: see him get over that MVP hump could have obviously

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Speaker 1: won it in previous years, but this was his first year.

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Speaker 1: How important was that to him? But also you as

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Speaker 2: Look, I think it was a real accomplishment, but at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, he would trade it for

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Speaker 2: I'm not you know to me, you know, the only

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Speaker 2: So you know, look, obviously I'm super happy for him.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I think he's super happy. But you know,

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Speaker 2: if you ask him, you know, you want a championship trophy.

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Speaker 2: That's he wanted to you know, he wanted two trophies

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Speaker 1: Now I hear that kind of the future not necessarily

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Speaker 1: James back, what are your thoughts, you know, being close

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Speaker 1: to the situation, close to him, I'm still kind of

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Speaker 1: helping out. You know, there was words in him and

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Speaker 1: Are you guys hopeful that James will be a six

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Speaker 2: Look, I think it's a little unfair for me to

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Speaker 2: you know, I think James has done everything he can

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Speaker 2: people who each committed to how do we each adapt

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Speaker 2: our play to win together? I think, yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: you know, both Joe and James made a lot of

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Speaker 2: James develop a lot and his willingness and like, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm here to win championships. I'm not. This isn't about

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Speaker 2: you know what what numbers I put up. It's about

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Speaker 2: how I can help the team to win championships. So

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, obviously I'm hopeful that everything works out,

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Speaker 2: but I just think that I'll talk about just about anything.

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Speaker 2: But I don't like, you know, with with this coming up,

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Speaker 1: On And I just just think, as a fan of James,

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Speaker 1: he's been put in a tough situation because he heard, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well you put up a great, amazing numbers, MVP, but

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Speaker 1: you can't win that way. Now you come to a

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So I think he kind of gets stuck in the

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Speaker 1: middle sometimes like I haven't lost it, but again I'm

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Speaker 1: sacrificing for the betterment of our club.

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Speaker 4: By the way, You're right, and I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: And I think you saw what James was capable of

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Speaker 2: had you know, you know James numbers when he was

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Speaker 4: That's that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: Actually when he was, you know, the number one superstar

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Speaker 2: and you know he's I'll tell you one thing. It's

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Speaker 2: interesting when you get to really know people know, like

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Speaker 2: how do they just there are a lot of basketball

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Speaker 2: who just really really wants to win and who like Sworta,

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Speaker 4: Who doesn't give a shit. I've seen all three.

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Speaker 2: James is dying to win championships, and he gets a

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Speaker 2: bad rap, you know, like the guy goes to Vegas

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Speaker 2: I'm a you know, I thought haven't been a brother

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Speaker 2: I've never worked hard on my life. I've never had

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Speaker 2: Sunday night after a very first time, I actually broke

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Speaker 4: During the six Ers.

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Speaker 2: I thought I did the right thing by for the

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Speaker 2: And when we won the first game there, I was

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not going to game seven. Obviously it wasn't

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Speaker 2: but I I Sunday afternoon, I threw the remote as

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Speaker 2: of broke and then my three year old Saidaddy, why

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Speaker 2: But that's not what you should do. But anyway, I

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what happens. And it was amazing just

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Speaker 2: And obviously, look, nothing's better than having Tom Brady sit

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Speaker 5: Next? Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, especially if you can walk straight from football the

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Speaker 5: Any hobbies? Working, that's it. I love it.

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Speaker 4: But you know, to me, like, listen, is this I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't see a game through the lens of fun.

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Speaker 2: I see it get By the way, the most enjoyable

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Speaker 5: It's fun work.

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Speaker 6: Legendary potter as you have, How did how did start?

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Speaker 6: I mean, we have some groupies on our staff that's

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Speaker 5: That's dying again to your party.

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Speaker 2: Well you know what I've actually figured out, Like, if

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Speaker 1: Party kidding me, Yeah, Like I think I already got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know what it really comes from. I

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Speaker 4: Whether it was this lunch we just.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think what we like to do is bring

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Speaker 4: And I love that. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Like and by the way, people always giving back to us.

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, so who got to take the who gotta

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's only I think it's only fair

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Speaker 5: Michael Jordans, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Good game, motherfucker, good game.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how about you?

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Speaker 2: People right back out. You know. I think when I

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Speaker 5: Like that spunk for me.

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Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely A born hustler first million was made at sixteen,

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Speaker 4: I grew up in a very middle class family.

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Speaker 4: We were truly in middle class.

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Speaker 2: But like, if I grew up in a tough environment,

441
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Speaker 2: I'm sure would have been on drugs and just keep

442
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Speaker 2: it real, like I was a hustler.

443
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Speaker 3: You would have been good at it.

444
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Speaker 2: I agree, would have been great.

445
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Speaker 1: But where do where'd your mentality come from? Just to

446
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Speaker 1: want to start making money at an early age?

447
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Speaker 2: You know, I think, honestly, you do what you're good at.

448
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,040
Speaker 2: I always believe you gotta do things that you love

449
00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,320
Speaker 2: so knowing that I was, like god all for shitty student,

450
00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,399
Speaker 2: and knowing that I was the least coordinated person on

451
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Speaker 2: planet Earth. Like you gravitate to what you're good at,

452
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Speaker 2: I was good at working. So I just loved it

453
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Speaker 2: from when I was a young kid, and you know,

454
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Speaker 2: I was I kind of was born with it, to

455
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Speaker 2: be honest.

456
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Speaker 4: I kind of had that entrepreneurial spirit.

457
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Speaker 2: And you know, if you're good at it, you just

458
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Speaker 2: keep working on your craft. The great thing about business,

459
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Speaker 2: by the way, different than sports, and you guys look

460
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Speaker 2: at the way you guys are really meant it yourself now.

461
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Speaker 2: But the great thing about businesses there's no like, I

462
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Speaker 2: hope I can be the shop when I'm eighty or

463
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Speaker 2: ninety and I'm gonna you know, and I think the

464
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Speaker 2: second I stopped doing I think I die.

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Speaker 5: Mm, well, I agree, I can understand that.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you feel like there's no where to learn.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, can you remember a pivotal decision or what if

468
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Speaker 1: in any early business moves you made?

469
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Speaker 2: Well, I made so many dumb ones as a kid, like,

470
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Speaker 2: I mean from those yeah, but I mean I've like,

471
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Speaker 2: I mean, I almost went bankrupt, you know, ten different

472
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Speaker 2: times in my life. You know, I've run out of

473
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Speaker 2: money multiple times in my younger days. I've you know,

474
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Speaker 2: I mean I had it when I was sixteen. I

475
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Speaker 2: went out of money for like the second time I had.

476
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Speaker 2: I had a three month string where the sheriff became

477
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Speaker 2: my homie because she would drop off the lawsuits each

478
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Speaker 2: day from the one hundred and fifty people that were

479
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Speaker 2: suing me, from one hundred and fifty ski vendors that

480
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Speaker 2: I would money to.

481
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Speaker 4: It's like I've seen it all, so but.

482
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Speaker 2: Those are great experiences, by the way, you know, six

483
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Speaker 2: months later, I bought another ski shove that went out

484
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Speaker 2: of business for I bought two hundred thousand dollars inventory

485
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Speaker 2: for thirteen thousand dollars, barrot it from a neighbor to

486
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Speaker 2: one thousand dollars a week interest, hustled that inventory out

487
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Speaker 2: three weeks later, paid all the money I would back,

488
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Speaker 2: and like became you know, by the time I was

489
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Speaker 2: twenty one, was doing over one hundred million dollars a

490
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Speaker 2: year selling clothes out footwear. So like, to me, every

491
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Speaker 2: failure always leads to the next success. And I'm like,

492
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Speaker 2: I was just saying this today, it's kind of crazy,

493
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Speaker 2: Like I kind of like failing sometimes. I mean, I

494
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Speaker 2: know that sounds demented, but like those are great learnings.

495
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Speaker 2: You try to obviously not fuck up the really big things,

496
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Speaker 2: but like failings, like you just want to fail fast

497
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Speaker 2: and quick and then learn from that experience and grow.

498
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Speaker 2: You know, obviously, look, I want to have more wins

499
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Speaker 2: than I've loaned. But like, if you're not failing a

500
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Speaker 2: decent amount in business, you're not trying to well.

501
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Speaker 1: To me, it's not I've never looked at losses or lessons,

502
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Speaker 1: you know, as long as you supply something, you know

503
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Speaker 1: from what you lost about so.

504
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Speaker 2: But I'll go back and analyze the shit out of it,

505
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Speaker 2: like you know, what did I do wrong? Why did

506
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Speaker 2: I get wrong? Why did I do this? And then

507
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Speaker 2: I learn and I'm better as a result of m H.

508
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Speaker 1: If you had one piece of advice for young entrepreneurs,

509
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Speaker 1: what would that be?

510
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Speaker 2: So many people are scared to fail. It's stupid, Like

511
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: go for it, like you just got to go. Like

512
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: if you sit there wondering like is this gonna work?

513
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Speaker 2: Should I do this? Like what's gonna happen if doesn't work?

514
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Speaker 2: Like keep asking what if you're never gonna get anywhere

515
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Speaker 2: in life, you just got to go for it. Probably

516
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Speaker 2: I'll I'll throw one more other. You got to get

517
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Speaker 2: great people around you. Like one of my best skill

518
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Speaker 2: sets is attracting like the right people to like learn

519
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: and from grow from work together. So to me, it's like,

520
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, my entire strategy is like I'm gonna outwork everybody.

521
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have some pretty good common sense and I'm

522
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Speaker 2: just gonna go for it with great people around me.

523
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Speaker 2: And I think if you do those few things, I

524
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Speaker 2: think your odds are pretty good.

525
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a lot of problem athletes.

526
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Speaker 6: And I even put myself in the category we don't

527
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Speaker 6: it's not that we don't know, but we don't put

528
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Speaker 6: ourselves around the right people till we retired.

529
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Speaker 5: And it's for some people's too late.

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Speaker 4: So we talked a lot about that too.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I could tell you talent as an athlete

532
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Speaker 2: only takes you so far. I think the right people

533
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Speaker 2: around you get you to where you want to go.

534
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Speaker 2: And if you have the right people around you, they'll

535
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Speaker 2: help you to achieve it. You want to get the

536
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Speaker 2: wrong people around you, they'll take you to places you

537
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Speaker 2: don't want to be. So to me.

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Speaker 4: That's probably been I suck at a lot of things.

539
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Speaker 2: By the way I suck at a lot of things,

540
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Speaker 2: I mean that I've been pretty good at attract tracking

541
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Speaker 2: people around me that have been additive to my life.

542
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Speaker 5: That's a gift.

543
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Speaker 4: It is a gift.

544
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Speaker 2: I gotta say it. Something's a gift that keeps giving

545
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: so to me. So many people get themselves in trouble

546
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Speaker 2: because they don't have the right people giving them good input.

547
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Speaker 2: So I actually, I think one of the responsibilities I

548
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: have at Fanatics, in the position I'm in is to

549
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Speaker 2: try to, you know, be helpful to others. And by

550
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Speaker 2: the way, people helping me all the time too. It's

551
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Speaker 2: not just like in the early days. People helping me

552
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: today all the time. But I think the right people

553
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 2: around is everything. That is. You get the right people around,

554
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: it's a completely different outcome than if you have the

555
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Speaker 2: wrong people around. So same talent, right people versus wrong

556
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: people completely changes your outcome.

557
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Speaker 1: Definite outcome question real quick, And I want to ask

558
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Speaker 1: you this from a business perspective, because that's what you

559
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Speaker 1: excel in the job morant situation, not necessarily what he

560
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Speaker 1: did or what he's done, but as someone who builds brands.

561
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Speaker 1: Can you speak to why what he's doing is obviously,

562
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Speaker 1: because I feel like there's so many people that are

563
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: back and forth. He didn't break laws, didn't do this. Obviously,

564
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Speaker 1: there's a moral clause when you're in the NBA and

565
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Speaker 1: someone in his you know, he's the next to kind.

566
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Speaker 3: Of carry the flag for the league.

567
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Speaker 1: So speak from a business side of why what he's

568
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Speaker 1: doing is setting them back?

569
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Speaker 2: Well, first, like, it's actually great that you ask that

570
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Speaker 2: question because I've been thinking about that one in the

571
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Speaker 2: last couple of days, and that what you just said

572
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: having the right people around versus not having the right

573
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Speaker 2: people around. Look, my belief is this one's gonna unfortunately

574
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Speaker 2: hurt him more than he I could too, but I

575
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Speaker 2: think it'll also help him and that he'll really learn

576
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Speaker 2: and grow from this. Like, I don't think he's making

577
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Speaker 2: this mistake a third time now. Sometimes, by the way,

578
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: people could just be fundamentally flawed people. I've spent a

579
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Speaker 2: little time with him, not a lot of time with him.

580
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Speaker 2: He seems like a good guy, you know. I just

581
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: it's it goes back to who you pick to have

582
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Speaker 2: around you. I think he's not going to get out

583
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 2: of the situation say fuck, this really hurt, and it's

584
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Speaker 2: going to teach him that lesson that says, Okay, I

585
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: got to pick more carefully to people that have around

586
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Speaker 2: me to help me go to where I want to go,

587
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Speaker 2: not to where I get.

588
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Speaker 4: I keep getting taken too.

589
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Speaker 2: So look, Jah is you know, incredibly important to the

590
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Speaker 2: sport of basketball. He's one of the most talented players

591
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Speaker 2: in the universe. And you know, my hope and belief

592
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Speaker 2: not just hope, My belief is that this will end

593
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Speaker 2: up being a good experience for him. And you know,

594
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Speaker 2: I hope that he, you know, does get the right

595
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Speaker 2: people around him. And look, sometimes you see people who

596
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: just can't get it through their head, and you know,

597
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: it's hard to come in. Like think about the way

598
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people grow up who play sports, and

599
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Speaker 2: then you come into this incredible fame and success and money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, everyone who listeners can say, oh,

601
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: that's bullshit, Like but he's still a kid, and like,

602
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: you know, he needs support to help make better decisions.

603
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Speaker 4: So, you know, but I believe we'll get there.

604
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Speaker 6: I really do the things we were doing in twenty three,

605
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Speaker 6: we lucky we didn't have social media.

606
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Speaker 5: I've done worse.

607
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Speaker 6: For sure, I've done worse, way worse, And while I

608
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Speaker 6: was in the NBA, I made mistakes. I think he'll

609
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Speaker 6: be fine, But taking the game away from him, that's

610
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Speaker 6: going to help him. Being suspended thirty games from that

611
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Speaker 6: broad shit like that with me. That made me sit

612
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Speaker 6: down and really look at do I really want to

613
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Speaker 6: play basketball? Do I want to be at home with

614
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Speaker 6: the rest of my friends. So I think taking the

615
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Speaker 6: game away from fun lil while will help him. Me

616
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Speaker 6: think of the blessing he has.

617
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Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent right.

618
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Speaker 2: By the way, if they didn't give him something that

619
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Speaker 2: was meaningful, then I think he would think he could

620
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Speaker 2: keep doing it and he would make the changes.

621
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Speaker 4: That he needs to make.

622
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Speaker 2: But I say this with huge respect and love for him.

623
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Speaker 2: I want him, you know, playing as soon as he's

624
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Speaker 2: ready to play, except when he plays the six Ers.

625
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Speaker 2: Other than that, when you're playing this, I think the

626
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Speaker 2: actual right suspension should be he's not suspend other than

627
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Speaker 2: for all games against the six Ers. I think that

628
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Speaker 2: would be fair approach.

629
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Speaker 4: I think it's logical.

630
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Speaker 2: It's like he keeps getting reminded of his actions and

631
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: then he just you know, when we play you know,

632
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: a few times a year and then yeah, that's it

633
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Speaker 2: innovative suspension to you.

634
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Speaker 6: It might work back to ownership in the NBA. NBA

635
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 6: is seventy percent black. What's your take on only having

636
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Speaker 6: one owner.

637
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Speaker 2: I think you need more diversity, for sure. I think

638
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: diversity is so important. I mean, if I look at

639
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: the way we build our company, you know we have

640
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Speaker 2: we have, you know, a very diverse leadership team.

641
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Speaker 4: I think it's important.

642
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Speaker 2: Like, look, at the end of the day, we have

643
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: a business that's dependent on you know, seventy or seventy

644
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: five percent of our revenues derived from black and brown athletes.

645
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: We better have a team that's you know, representative of that.

646
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Speaker 2: So I think we need to keep pushing for more.

647
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: I think there's not been enough progress made. And you know,

648
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Speaker 2: one of the problems is I think, you know, I'm

649
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: excited when I see I have so many friends that

650
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: are you know, that are doing well now that I think,

651
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: you know, could afford to be owners over time. But

652
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: I think, you know, look, you want majority owners, not

653
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: just minority owners. But I think it's I think it's coming,

654
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: but not fast enough, and I think you need more

655
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: of it. Look if you're in a sports business and

656
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: the business is built around black and brown athletes, like

657
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Speaker 2: you have to you know, you have to build your

658
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: team around that as well.

659
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 5: I have to give you some ownership down.

660
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 6: I have to give you some of your flowers too,

661
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 6: because just to be able to see owner be transparent

662
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 6: and embrace you know, rappers other athletes, and be able

663
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 6: to spend time when them enjoy we like, we've never

664
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 6: seen that, Like and I've been on NBA teams, but

665
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 6: I've never even met the owner, right, so so to

666
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 6: see that is refreshing as the NBA athlete.

667
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: So first, thank you. Number two. I'm stunned by how

668
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 4: painful so many rich, out of touch people are, Like,

669
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: I mean it, just keep this real.

670
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of people I know,

671
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: so many people are so financially well off, and I'm like,

672
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't spend a half an hour with them because

673
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: I'd want to, like literally just crawl on my own skin.

674
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: It's so boring. I mean, like for me, like, i

675
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: feel like I'm lucky to spend time with all the

676
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: guys I do. And again, I'm always you know, I'm

677
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: having fun, I'm learning, and I'm growing they're learning, they're growing.

678
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: So to me, it's like when I'll tell you a

679
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: funny story.

680
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: Actually, this year, the Sixers asked me to come in

681
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: and as you guys probably remember, once a year they

682
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: bring in an outside guest that would speak to the

683
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: team for the team to learn from. And you know,

684
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: Darryl and Doc actually said to me, listen, just I

685
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: want to forewarn you, like, these guys are gonna do

686
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: their eyes gonna be rolling, they're gonna have no interest,

687
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna be asleep. I said, guys, you're

688
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: so dead wrong. So I had a meeting with The

689
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: meeting was schedule for an hour. I I flew in

690
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: from New York. I had to get back to New

691
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: York because it was at a practice facility. And after

692
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: an hour and fifteen minutes, probably had fifty questions. Everyone's

693
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: writing notes asking questions. So like, to me, you know,

694
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: that's just the good stuff when you get related with people.

695
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 4: We need more relatable.

696
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: Owners in sports. We need younger owners in sports. Like

697
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 2: it's very hard to look at somebody who's you know

698
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: and look, my biggest metro's probably been but he's an anomaly, right,

699
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: he's an eighty one year old guy who's got the

700
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: heart of a twenty five years old Right, he's relatable.

701
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: You go talk to Robert, He'll sit here and talk

702
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: to you guys all day long. And by he's like me,

703
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to talk to the boring rich guy who,

704
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: like you know, is just like been there and done that.

705
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: So but that's just the way I'm built. And again,

706
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: I don't know how you build a consumer business, Like,

707
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: how could I actually be successful building fanatics?

708
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: And by the way, I got lots of work to

709
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: do to be.

710
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: More successful, But how can I be successful doing it

711
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: if you know, I wasn't relatable and learning from people

712
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: around me all day. So you know, to me, I'm like,

713
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm lucky to like I love walking to the locker rooms

714
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: talking to people, and you know, it was actually fun

715
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: the first time ever after I had a good memory

716
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: of playing the Celtics at the end of the year.

717
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: This year before in the regular season, I walked to

718
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: the Celtics locker room because now I was an owner,

719
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: I was comfortable and I went in to see Grant

720
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: Williams and I went to see Jayalen Brown. I went

721
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: in to see Tatum and like, by the way, Grant's

722
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: talking to me about business and Jalen Brown's talking to

723
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: me about business. They're both on the you know, NBPA

724
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: executive Committee, And like, I love to see any way

725
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: these guys and they're asking questions and they want to

726
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: build their business and they want to keep you know,

727
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: building with they're budding.

728
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: Like to me, that's so exciting.

729
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Well, I think that that's new because we came in

730
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: during the generation late nineties early two thousands where business

731
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: and all that wasn't the conversation in the locker room.

732
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: But like you said, now it's an everyday thing, not everything.

733
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 1: It's team meetings in the locker room, shooting the shit investments,

734
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: and I think that's dope. And obviously that's going to

735
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: help break the stereotype and stigma and actual facts of

736
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: athletes going bro. Before it was something that wasn't spoke

737
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: of and it wasn't cool to know all this, But

738
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: now it's like, okay, everyone wants to do it, so

739
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: it's a little bit cooler.

740
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: Every And look, the business guys want to be like

741
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: the athletes. The robbers want to be like the athlete.

742
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to be the other person. But like, that's

743
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: good because everyone's learning from me. And look, people have platforms, say,

744
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: social media's changed, for the most part for the good

745
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: because people have big platforms where they can communicate directly

746
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: with their fans. Ultimately, you know, they can build businesses

747
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: through social media. That's also made people. It's also the

748
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: shot you talked about that none of us could get

749
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: away you know what I did, you know, because we're

750
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: all kind of same age ish, you know, we can't

751
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: get away with that.

752
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 6: You know, a little younger than you got mad at

753
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 6: me when I go ahead them.

754
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: No, I'm just trying to be younger. So I'm just

755
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: trying to go. I think I'm twenty five. So it's

756
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: just me trying to you.

757
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: And went to high school the same time.

758
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's fucked up, but I'm forty five.

759
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: Yeah I'm fifty twenty.

760
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm like I think, Yeah, I agree to dye

761
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: my hair is working.

762
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 4: The shot I take to be skin of all the

763
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: ship's working.

764
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: Drugs, all the longevity drugs, they're good. Thank god, I'm

765
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: only fifty now. The longevity drugs. I'm a big believer

766
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: in all this stuff.

767
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 5: Better.

768
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna invest hard in longevity drugs.

769
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna need I'm gonna need to plug on

770
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: those one too.

771
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: They're good, but I mean there's nothing other than f nows.

772
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: There's nothing I believe more. And then the weight loss drug,

773
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 2: the hair dye and the longevity drugs. And I've never

774
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: had botox yet, but I'm ready to go.

775
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: I'll side of the hair dye.

776
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you, you know. No, I'm just I like

777
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: my salt and pepper coming in.

778
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm good with that.

779
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, ain't help me.

780
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's over for you.

781
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 5: It's yeah.

782
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad you took it like I'm glad.

783
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not taking on like take like a chap.

784
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: You've been a champion in the criminal justice reform. You were.

785
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 6: Key in getting Meek out. How did your passion start

786
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 6: for that? And how did you and meet form a

787
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 6: relationship where you cared that much to help get to

788
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 6: help to get him out.

789
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had no passion for it before I

790
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: met Meek. Thanks, And so it's not don't give me

791
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: too much credit. It was really like what happened was

792
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: me could become one of my closest you know boys.

793
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: You know we were hanging for I don't know, probably.

794
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: Four years, you know, pretty rankly.

795
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: I was talking him on the phone most days, and

796
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: you were just you know, he was my he was

797
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: my boy. And you know, look, I think everyone knows

798
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: the story. But you know, he called me and by

799
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: the way, both our lives, you call me that Monday morning, says, hey, can.

800
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: You come to court with me today? I said, you

801
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: really want me to?

802
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I want you see what happens when

803
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: a black person goes to you know, to court. I

804
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: was like, do you really want me to come? He's like, yeah,

805
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: I really want you to come. And so I didn't

806
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: think anything of it. I was just like and we

807
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: talked about him like like you popped wheeling on a motorcycle,

808
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: like you're fine, Like you're not, you know, like you're

809
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: gonna be fine. And he had this crazy ass judge,

810
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: I mean, she was crazy as could be.

811
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: So I went to court with him that day.

812
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: And I watched a probation officer recommend no sentence. I

813
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: watched a district attorney recommend no sense, and then I

814
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: watched a judge fight with the probation officer district attorney,

815
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: and ultimately he by the way, they asked me to

816
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: get up and speak. I talked about my relationship with him,

817
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: how he knew my mom. He's been around Adam Silver

818
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: and Robert Kraft and all the rob math for all

819
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: the commissions, like he'd been around my what like, yeah,

820
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: this guy's not perfect, but like nor am I, And

821
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: like I thought I'd give an incredible speech to the judge,

822
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: by the way, like I thought, I was like, I

823
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: was like, I'm killing it here. She's like I got her,

824
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: Like she's not even looking at me. And she sends

825
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: him in prison for two to four years. And that

826
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: was the most out of control I ever felt in

827
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: my life, because like when you're in business. By the way,

828
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: this is in Pennsylvania where I'm from, where I've created

829
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: probably ten thousand jobs, Okay, Like I would think my

830
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: word would mean something. And she sent him in prison

831
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: for two to four years. And I was like, no,

832
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: this sayn't happening. So I didn't care until that second.

833
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: By the way, the craziest thing was Meek called me

834
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: three hours later and I get a call like I

835
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: was calling everybody. I was called the governor, the mayor,

836
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: the attorney general. I'm calling everyone Like I thought, I

837
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: I have him out a prison in a couple of weeks,

838
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: like getting the black person out of jail. It ain't easy.

839
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you, let me tell you, Let

840
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: me tell you that right now. So I was lucky.

841
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: I was sitting in the court next to Desire Prize,

842
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: the CEO of Rock Nation, who's jay z partner. I

843
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: looked at Meek and I looked at his his his mom.

844
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: As they were taking to prison, I said, look, I'm

845
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: not going to stop until I get you at of prison,

846
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: and Desrous says, hey, I'm Desire Present. We spoke on

847
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: the phone. Once you know I'm not going to stop

848
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: till I get him out of prison. I said, great,

849
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: let's do this together and let's go. And you know,

850
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: the first couple of months was only about getting him

851
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 2: out of prison. I didn't understand the system. I didn't

852
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: care about it. And then when we'd hired maybe the

853
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: twentieth investigator that was going back and look at it,

854
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: and me kept saying to me, like, I know you're

855
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 2: focused on killing this judge because you're what you saw

856
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: was so wrong. I never did. When I was originally

857
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: charged with he was charged for pointing in a gun

858
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: at multiple police officers.

859
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: Now, I think you.

860
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: Guys would probably tell me if you're pointing gun at

861
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: multip police officers, that's called suicide, right, And so he's

862
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: always said I didn't do it. So we a couple

863
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: months into it, we started interviewing the police officers. The

864
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: first cop said, oh, no, he never pointed the gun.

865
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 2: The whole thing's a lie. He said, huh. He's like, yeah,

866
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: he didn't point the gun. We're like, we signed autfi Davi.

867
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, but you know, our entire squad was

868
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: like stealing money from like drug dealers.

869
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: We've all been fired and gone to jail. And so

870
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: at that point I called me.

871
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: By the way, the Eagles were playing the Patriots in

872
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: the Superbow called me and I said, great news, You're

873
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: getting out of prison in the next couple of days.

874
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: I explained the whole thame with the cop came forward.

875
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: Took another three months to get him out of jail.

876
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: And that between those three months when we said wait

877
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: a second, when you finally get out of prison, we

878
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: have to do this is like, by the way, you

879
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: were sent to prison like God. And I'm not a

880
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: religious person about like you got sent to.

881
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: Prison for a reason.

882
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: We got to take this and we got to turn

883
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: this into something. We've got to fix this for the

884
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: millions of voiceless people. And so we've had a pretty

885
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: big impact. I mean, we started the Reform Alliance, you know,

886
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: the year he got out of prison. We've raised you know,

887
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: well over one hundred million dollars. I put tens of

888
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: millions of my own money into it. Now Fanatics, my

889
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: company is a huge you know supporter of it, and

890
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: we've already created a pathway for six hundred and fifty thousand

891
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: people that are on probation parole that shouldn't be to

892
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 2: get you know, out of the system, because what happens

893
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: is when you're stuck on probation and parole like Meek was,

894
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: you keep getting sent back and by the way.

895
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: For dumb stuff.

896
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 6: I'll tell you this right now, big business, that's how

897
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 6: to keep you in the system.

898
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 5: It's true.

899
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: And if you put me on probation and parle. But

900
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: Meek was on it for twelve years, he had another, uh,

901
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: he had another I think eight or ten to go.

902
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: He was he was like entire adult life on probation.

903
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: You put me on probation prol for two years. I'm

904
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: fucking something up. So I'm pretty sophisticated. So you know,

905
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: there's just no there's no there's no way that anyone

906
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: who lives any life, like maybe a saint could like.

907
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: Be on probation or programs.

908
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: It ain't It ain't me. So I feel great about

909
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: what we've done. And we've also attacked the most straightforward

910
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: part of the criminal justicism because with crime rates going

911
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: back up, like like bell is a really complicated issue.

912
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm not trying to say, hey, a

913
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: violent offender who you know, should you know, be off

914
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: of bower. I'm not getting into that. Like what I'm

915
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: saying is like, look, at the end of the day,

916
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: it is mathematically proven that first twenty five percent of

917
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: people that go to prison and jail each year are

918
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: coming from probation and pro technical violations. They did not

919
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: commit a crime, they were late to see the probation.

920
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: I met somebody who got married without authorization and got

921
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: sent to jail for it. Okay, Meek used to go

922
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: pick his kid up and I used to listen to

923
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: the probation officers say, if you pick your kid up,

924
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: I will say to prison because he lived in Philadelphia

925
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: and his kid went to school in New Jersey. So, like,

926
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: probation is supposed to help rehabilitate you. And so what

927
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: we want to do is get the people off that

928
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: shouldn't be on probation and parrol and then have the

929
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: probation officers. And by the way, there's many, so many

930
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: great probation officers and prole officers. Have them focus on

931
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: helping rehabilitate the people that really need that rehabilitation. So

932
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: I think we're doing great work. It's a team sport.

933
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: There's lots of great organizations working together. I think, like, look,

934
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: having me go to prison for this, having Jay z

935
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: as your founding partner, Robert Kraft, you know Meek, you know,

936
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: we got an all star team. We got great I mean,

937
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: we have so many great people with Claricize amazing Mike Novagrats,

938
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: John and Laura Arnold. Laurnold has been like, it's so

939
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: helpful to spend so much time on this We've had.

940
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: I mean, Jack dors has given a ton of money

941
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: to this organization. It's just it's it's honestly, I look

942
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: back and say, because I always I keep saying I'm

943
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: never going to start anything new again, and I keep

944
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: starting new things, and this is one of the things

945
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know.

946
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: We got a lot of work to do, but I'm

947
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: proud of the progress rooms.

948
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 6: Some states even stopping cash bail because people coming to

949
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 6: jail with enough cash to bail out, you know what

950
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

951
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 5: They stopping that in some states.

952
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: So it's Look, the problem with the criminal justice system

953
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: is it doesn't make sense, just like, bring business logic

954
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: to it, Like, like, why.

955
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: Would meek Meek was like he hadn't committed a crime.

956
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: He'd done his two years in jail for not for

957
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: pointing the gun that didn't point at the multiple police

958
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: officers when he was nineteen, twenty twenty one. You know,

959
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: I met him at twenty seven or something like that.

960
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: He'd been on probation for another six years. I lived

961
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: through him being on probation for another you know, six

962
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: years in addition the six he was early on.

963
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 4: So it made no sense.

964
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: But I mean, he's making tens of millions of dollars

965
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: at this point. He's he's creating lots of jobs for people,

966
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: and we got this guy in probation, Like what.

967
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 5: We shit, it makes sense.

968
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: So as we stayed it earlier.

969
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: You left the six Ers about a year ago to

970
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 1: be run Fanatics full time. Recently bought a sports book.

971
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Congratulations Mitchell and Neess. What's what's in the future for

972
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: Fanatics you guys contents?

973
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: What's going on with everything you do?

974
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, first, we're just getting started. I mean, I

975
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: feel like I've been at this for eleven years. I

976
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: feel like this is you know, anyone you know, I

977
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't even say early first quarter. You know, we have

978
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: three businesses. Did the first business of merchandise business we

979
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: call finax Commerce. In that business, we do own Mitchell Ness,

980
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: we own lids, you know, obviously the Flaship Finacs brand.

981
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: We operate all the leagues e commerce businesses, so you

982
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: go to NFL Shop, NBA Store, NHL Store, MOB Store,

983
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 2: nine hundred individual team sites, but our biggest sites. Fanatics

984
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: is primarily a direct consumer business. And by the way,

985
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: we've gone from two hundred and fifty million dollars when

986
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: I started to over six billion dollars this year in

987
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: that division and we're just starting. And by the way,

988
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: there's so many things we need to do better, Like

989
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: I look every day and say like, not, what are

990
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: we doing well?

991
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 4: What are we not doing well?

992
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: How do we get packages to customers more quickly? How

993
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: do we improve everything that we do? We g got a

994
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: lot of things we need to do better. Like you know,

995
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: we are far from a perfect company, but we're working

996
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 2: our asses at every single day and just getting better

997
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 2: every day.

998
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 4: That's our first business.

999
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: Second business the collectible's business, which is really trading cards.

1000
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: That's a really exciting business.

1001
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: Today we own tops so we operate the baseball trading

1002
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: card business. F one bundeslige you for bote. Soon we

1003
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: have the NBA rights coming over, the NFL rights coming over.

1004
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: You have c launches January first. Wwe all the college

1005
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: right So it's super exciting business.

1006
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 4: I'm having a last with that.

1007
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 3: That's so dope.

1008
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: And then we just we just started in the online

1009
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: sports betting business. We launched in Tennessee and Ohio. We've

1010
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: got Massachusetts coming soon and look, we'll be in all

1011
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: the states within a year. And look, I think for fanatics,

1012
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: you know what's our dream like are what's our north star?

1013
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: We want to have that Fanatics app where you can

1014
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: go and you can get your merchandise, and yeah, it's

1015
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: one stop shop. You can get your merchandise, you can

1016
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: get your collectibles, you can trade them, you can you

1017
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: can bet your on your sports, you can watch live sports.

1018
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: That's really dope, man, I love it again, like the

1019
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: way your mind works. I mean, every time you talk

1020
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: about something or a situation, you talk about learning, and

1021
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: it just seems like you're constantly learning and also giving back,

1022
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: which I think is dope.

1023
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 4: And if you don't, you're dead right.

1024
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: And the second the second I stop learning, I'm irrelevant

1025
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: and useless and like in the pasture.

1026
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: So in twenty thirteen you said Fanatics will be worth

1027
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: ten billion. By twenty twenty, you were wrong. It was

1028
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: worth more. It was worth thirty billion. What's the goal here,

1029
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: obviously to have a one stop shop? What itever to sell?

1030
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: Or is this something that's never.

1031
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 4: Never never, no, never sell.

1032
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: We'll be a public company in the midterm, you know,

1033
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: not near term, like not in the next you know

1034
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: quarters but not it's not long term ei there it'd

1035
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: be you know over the next you know, several years,

1036
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: will become a public company. I want to do this

1037
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: till I die. I think if we have a massive opportunity.

1038
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: For me, this sounds weird. I actually will kind of

1039
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: makes sense. It's like money is kind of a way

1040
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: of keeping score of how you're performing.

1041
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: So for me, what's the north star?

1042
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: Hundreds of millions of fans maybe billions over time that

1043
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: are you know, just love using the Fanatics product and

1044
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: everything we do and to be great not good, Like

1045
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: right now, there are a lot of things we do.

1046
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 4: I think we're mediocred. That's not acceptable. We need to

1047
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 4: be great.

1048
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: We need to keep pushing them book and so you know,

1049
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: I look at that and it's like, Okay, how do

1050
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: we deliver packages customers more quickly? How do we make

1051
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: sure that every product we sell is perfect for a customer?

1052
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: How do we make sure customers delighted when they buy

1053
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: from us? How do we like, look at the innovation

1054
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: we just did in trading cards. I don't know if

1055
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: you guys saw this, ye like and it was actually

1056
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: it's actually a great story because we bought tops fifteen

1057
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: months ago, and you know, the CEO of our collectible business, Mike.

1058
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 4: Mayhann, said, Hey, I've got this great idea.

1059
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: He said, I want to take every time a rookie

1060
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: debuse plays the first game. I want to put a

1061
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: patch on their jersey for that first game and then

1062
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: take that patch and make a one on one card.

1063
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 4: And we went to tops.

1064
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, we make all the baseball uniforms,

1065
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: so anytime you buy it, but you know we make

1066
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: everything Nike in baseball, in football, in college.

1067
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 5: So when you.

1068
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Buy Aaron Judge jersey, you know Tony jersey from US,

1069
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: you know we're making all of that that that product.

1070
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: And so that was a great idea. And the team said, like,

1071
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Do you think baseball is never

1072
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: going to let you put a patch on it? This

1073
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: is the this is a dumb idea. I called a problem. Manford, Like,

1074
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: Rob got a great idea. I think we should put

1075
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: a patch on a jersey's Like, so, how's it going

1076
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: to work?

1077
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: Explain to him.

1078
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: It's like Rob and Nogarn were like, go, let's go.

1079
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: It was done on the spot, and so like because

1080
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: of the position where we can and that was a

1081
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: great innovation. Now we're creating three to five hundred, because

1082
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: there's three to five hundred baseball player's debuting per year,

1083
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: we're creating these one to one cards. It's an amazing product.

1084
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: We're innovating that business like crazy, Like no one's ever

1085
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: marketed the collectible's business before. Like you guys, you guys

1086
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: weren't marketing. You guys were like you signed cards because

1087
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: you got paid, you know, a bucket card or three

1088
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: bucks a card to sign right right for us.

1089
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: Like none of this is acceptable.

1090
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: Like I look at our partnership with athletes as pivotal

1091
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: to what we do. We have a couple thousand athletes

1092
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: that I think we can build up. We can like

1093
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: help them communicate with fans and they can help us

1094
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: communicate with our fans better. We want to like completely

1095
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: innovate the experience of how we do when we launch

1096
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: a new launch in trading cards, now we treat like

1097
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: the video game launch, it's like who we need into

1098
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: the cover, you know, like you know, it's an honor

1099
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: and you get.

1100
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 4: Depending rights and experience absolutely so so.

1101
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: And then in the gaming business, in the honest sportsman business,

1102
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: we're just starting.

1103
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: So there's so much for us to do.

1104
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: And that's why probably I work with a maniac right

1105
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: now because I'm just every second thing what we're not

1106
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: getting right, what we need to keep improving on.

1107
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: I know we're up against the clock. We're coming down

1108
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 1: to the end. I'm going to give you a few names.

1109
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Just give me a few words to describe this perse

1110
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: these people.

1111
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 5: Jay z.

1112
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: Beast so much respect for I learned so much from him.

1113
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: And people think of him as an artist. He's absolutely

1114
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: he's an artist. He's a business person with a platform,

1115
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: which is him being an artist. I can't say enough

1116
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: great things about him. He is he always does the

1117
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: right and there's more than a few words, but I

1118
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: just tell you he's one of my most respect and favorite.

1119
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: People on planet Earth.

1120
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: He'll always jump into a fight to do the right

1121
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: thing for his people. He cares so much like me.

1122
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: He doesn't he wants to you know, he doesn't care

1123
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: about money. He just wants to win and do the

1124
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: right thing. And watching what he's done in business is

1125
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: just it's inspirational. It's aspirational, and he's helped us a lot.

1126
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: I remember sitting with him. I'll tell you a great story.

1127
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: I sat with him last summer. We were actually having

1128
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: to meet him and baby at my house talking and

1129
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: I was talking about, you know that we own lids,

1130
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: and I was saying, like I was worried about like

1131
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: where head where was going. He's like, Michael, you don't

1132
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: even think of headwear the right way is like, like

1133
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: you get dressed, hack goes on your head, that's part

1134
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: of your wardrobe. Like you don't think about head where

1135
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: that when I went back to our Lids team and

1136
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're not thinking about this the right way.

1137
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: And here's jay Z teaching me about I don't know,

1138
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: a billion a business more than a billion dollars the

1139
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: lids is and jay Z's teaching me about the head business.

1140
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: That's Jay He's that girl.

1141
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: Drake another beast, you know, one of the you know,

1142
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 2: most incredible artists in the planet. Great friend, a blad

1143
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: to have so much fun with him.

1144
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: Hate his raptors, fucking hate him.

1145
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: My worst memory of Drake is in the middle of

1146
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: game seven of the playoffs, he sends me a picture

1147
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: of himself were in six you shorts. He said, I'm

1148
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: coming for you. As soon as I saw him the

1149
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: sixty shorts, I said, we're losing this fucking game. And

1150
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: chicks asked, motherfucker, just put just put on these shorts.

1151
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: And I knew it was rapping by the way. I've

1152
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: never seen someone facetiming more times than me, ignore him

1153
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: more than it. After that game and he had he

1154
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: had no chill. We just lost.

1155
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: Why hit the shot the bang bang bang correct?

1156
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: And he facetimed every two seconds. That has just never

1157
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: picked up. I just went home depressed.

1158
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 5: That's funny.

1159
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart hardest working guy. I know, there's nobody work right.

1160
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: Was that you're taller than him?

1161
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 4: Slightly?

1162
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's by the way, he's the only person that

1163
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: actually makes me feel tall is Khart. You know, great friend.

1164
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: You know, I think I work like an animal. He

1165
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: works like iework. He he is twenty four to seven,

1166
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: whatever you call Him's always pick the phone up. He's

1167
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: always hustling.

1168
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 5: You know.

1169
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys know we're doing a harthouse together

1170
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: here in California. It's been a dream of his. And

1171
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: by the way, I wouldn't get involved talk about Kevin's

1172
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: influence on me.

1173
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: Kevin called me three years ago and said, hey, I've

1174
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: got this great idea.

1175
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: Uh. He said, I need you involved with it. And

1176
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: I said, keV, like, look, I don't have time to

1177
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: do anything but fanatics. He says, look, I just think

1178
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: you know it's my idea. I want to do this,

1179
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: but I think you being involved would really help it.

1180
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: And he told me his idea, which just look. He said,

1181
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: fast food is a huge category. He said, plant based

1182
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: is where the world's going healthier food plant based And

1183
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: he said, I'm a marketing machine. I want to build

1184
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: a harthhouse. And of course he you know, you know

1185
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: you listen to him talking. He was his energy.

1186
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 4: It was contagious.

1187
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: So I did it. By the way, now Robert Crafts

1188
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: has involved with it as well. We just brought in

1189
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: so you know, he's a beast. I just talked to

1190
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: him last night. He was in Ohio getting ready to go.

1191
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: He's on the move, always on the move.

1192
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: Shout out hard Ventures boss, the whole crew. Those those

1193
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: are my people.

1194
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you one thing. I'm on one outside board,

1195
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: only one out sideboard, and I get asked to be

1196
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: on a board every week, like literally some some friend

1197
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: of mine, can you be on my board?

1198
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 5: And you do this.

1199
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: I've never done a board other than my own companies.

1200
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: You know, you have basically fanatics. Kahrt said to me,

1201
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: you're joining the Heartbeat board for his production business.

1202
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: I said, do I have a choice? He said, nope.

1203
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: You're doing it.

1204
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 4: You're gonna help.

1205
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: Like crazy, I said, you know what, anything I've ever

1206
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: actually do, you've always done. So I'm in let's go.

1207
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: That's awesome, Little Baby really interesting.

1208
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: Baby is so smart and like you talk about growing up,

1209
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: you know, in different backgrounds. I mean, no one could

1210
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: have a different background growing up. Maybe me and Baby.

1211
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: You know, I don't Actually this will shock you. I

1212
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: don't actually listen to the words of music. I'm not

1213
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: my attention spanges. I can't like I don't know this

1214
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: is no one believes about me. But ask Baby as meek,

1215
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: ask any of my real friends. They would say, Michael

1216
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: is like there was something the matter with his brain,

1217
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't know two lines to any song, like

1218
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: even dreams of the Nightmares, like I you know, I know,

1219
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: like the first sentence to it that that's where I stop.

1220
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 4: Because my head just broken.

1221
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: With Baby is like he's such a brilliant artist and

1222
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: he's got he also great thing with Baby is like

1223
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: we were just talking about this a couple of days ago.

1224
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: When Chic goes wrong for him, he just shakes off

1225
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: his right back at it. You know, you know, he

1226
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: was just you know, you know, look he told the

1227
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: story ready, so he's not gonna get mad at me

1228
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: for telling it. He was just in the casino and

1229
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: a little bit out of control and calling me. He's like, fuck,

1230
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 2: I fucked up. And by the way, I'm right back

1231
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: at it, like let's go. Like you know, He's just like,

1232
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: right back to work. I'm just gonna I want to

1233
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: outwork everyone in the house wavy, and I think he's

1234
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: going to look again. I don't really know music at all,

1235
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: but I see how talented he is.

1236
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: Quick hitters.

1237
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: First thing to come in to mind, let us know

1238
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: and we're finished. You're gonna get you up out of here.

1239
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: When they make a movie about your life, who plays you?

1240
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: Nobody? I don't want to move about my life. I

1241
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: just want to keep living my life.

1242
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: But if it comes, hopefully be some younger looking dude,

1243
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: at least there you go.

1244
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: Now, someone who's accepting to be old and the grays

1245
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: of it. I'm not accepting that shit.

1246
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: There you go, bobbed in, I guess or alive.

1247
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: Five dinner guests, dead or alive. I want them to

1248
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: be of all backgrounds. They probably be a lot of

1249
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: my friends today because we have such great conversations I mean,

1250
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: you gotta put Jay on it for sure. You know,

1251
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: the only artist I've never met in my life, which

1252
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: is kind of crazy, iss Eminem, So we got to

1253
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: throw him on there. Yeah, I know, he's kind of

1254
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: introverted and doesn't leave his house, so so I put

1255
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: him on there. Phil Knight, so much respect for him.

1256
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: Robert Craft, He's everywhere I go, So I gotta have

1257
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: him and my dinner. And you know, I just I mean,

1258
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: Brady was so good today listening. I got to add

1259
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: Brady to it.

1260
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: So those are my five. I'm gonna add a six.

1261
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: You know, I've got to spend a lot of time

1262
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 2: with Recently, I'm so oppressed with Kim k She's a beast.

1263
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: You know, I'm thinking, I just started thinking to myself,

1264
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: I was having a dinner with five guys, pretty pathetic.

1265
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: So we should have we should have, we should we

1266
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: should have.

1267
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 7: Checks a lot of different boxes. But but Kim's Kim's

1268
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 7: a beast. I mean, like talk about her business acumen.

1269
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 7: I mean, there's nothing happened for her by accident. Everything

1270
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 7: with Kim is by grind intellect. You know, She's been

1271
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 7: so helpful to the Reform Alliance. She just jumps in

1272
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 7: whenever we need her. We just went to visit a

1273
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 7: prison in California together. We just together paid off fifty

1274
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 7: moms who had that ye who had They'd been stuck

1275
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 7: on probation only because they couldn't afford to pay the restitution.

1276
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: She's awesome. So I'm doing six and add and kim do.

1277
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 5: What over there?

1278
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: You want appreciate that first trading card or most prized

1279
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: card in your possession.

1280
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: I need my phone, I got a car. I'm gonna

1281
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: show you right now.

1282
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: It's not that it's gonna blow your mind away. Hold on,

1283
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna tell you something. My God's gonna kill

1284
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: me for doing this, but I'm gonna show you something

1285
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: that's gonna freak you out. So tell me what's the

1286
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 2: oddest thing you know about Tom Brady about sports?

1287
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: He likes to take pictures in his underwear.

1288
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 4: That's a good one, by the way. But that wasn't it.

1289
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: So Tommy was straightfted to play baseball?

1290
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 2: Do you knew that? You know that?

1291
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 5: Me there?

1292
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: So he did this one on one card. I really

1293
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: showing up. I'm showed to you. Now this is going

1294
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: to a set. So this is a one on one card.

1295
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: Read it.

1296
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: If baseball doesn't work out, thanks, always football.

1297
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 4: There's always football.

1298
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 3: Oh, there's always football.

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Speaker 2: If baseball doesn't work out, there's always football. Wow.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's a pretty that's a pretty close.

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Speaker 3: What year is that?

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Speaker 4: I guess it was Shraft in two thousand?

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Speaker 2: Here you gotta it's I mean that guys got push ups?

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Speaker 4: Since what are they.

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Speaker 2: Called push ups?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go, I got the joints ready?

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Speaker 2: Whoever?

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Speaker 5: It was Montreal? That's crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a dope card right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I probably shoud up.

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Speaker 5: But fuck it, absolutely all right, good job for me.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely on my phone.

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Speaker 5: I should be releasing there you go.

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Speaker 6: If you could see one guest on our show, who

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Speaker 6: would it be? But but you have to help us

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Speaker 6: get your answer.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be shit because this dude knows everybody.

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Speaker 2: So this is one guest on your show.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to help us get them?

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Speaker 2: You know, I want to do more of these things

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Speaker 2: Robert Kraft because he's so young at heart and by

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Speaker 2: and by the way, I've told Robert I do one

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Speaker 2: of these months. And you know, I'm always meaning great people.

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Speaker 2: I'm learning they're fun. It lets us you know, connect

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Speaker 2: with people that are important to us. I think Rob

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Speaker 2: would be amazing.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to him too, whether it's in the Antons,

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Speaker 1: wherever he's at, Will will be there. Well, Michael, Man,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Continue to inspire, continue to educate,

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Speaker 1: continue to be.

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Speaker 3: A great energy and light.

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Speaker 1: And oh yeah, we've got some all the smoke gear

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: This back feels a little heavier. Is that a reason why?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, special guest.

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Speaker 2: So number one, thank you for the kind words.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the store, make sure we go shout but.

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Speaker 1: No, but honestly, thank you man again to letting us

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Speaker 1: in your house and everything you do for the community,

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Speaker 1: for our people in particular, uh you know, sports, social

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Speaker 1: justice and business.

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Speaker 5: We really appreciate you and you you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for warmly welcoming me in. And I look

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Speaker 2: forward to this be in the beginning of a long

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Speaker 2: relationship and.

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Speaker 3: Wait to see you do some push ups. Here we go, man,

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Speaker 3: and that's a wrap.

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Speaker 1: All the smoke Michael Rubins live from this beautiful home

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Speaker 1: in LA. You can catch us on Showtime Basketball YouTube

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Speaker 1: and the iHeart platform Black Effects.

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Speaker 3: We'll see y'all next week.